WEBVTT - I Want To Join In On The Anger

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong is Joe Getty Armstrong and

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<v Speaker 1>Jetty and he Armstrong and Eddy.

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<v Speaker 2>So the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal has

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<v Speaker 2>a sad day for the US at the UN, the

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<v Speaker 2>Land of the Free votes with Russia on a Ukraine

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<v Speaker 2>war resolution. We brought that up with Tom mcclintalk last hour.

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<v Speaker 2>If you didn't get hear that, get the podcast Armstrong

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<v Speaker 2>and Getty on demand. But the resolution was basically calling,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Russia the aggressor and that they need to

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<v Speaker 2>get out. And we didn't vote yes on that. We

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<v Speaker 2>voted with Russia and North Korean some other scumbag countries

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<v Speaker 2>on not wanting to call out Russia in that war.

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<v Speaker 3>And as Tom mcclintact, the Congressman said, heal give plenty

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<v Speaker 3>of latitude to Trump to negotiate the way he sees

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<v Speaker 3>fit to try to end the war. It's fairly obviously

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<v Speaker 3>to me anyway, Trump trying to avoid any antagonizing the

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<v Speaker 3>people with whom he'll be negotiating, specifically Putin unnecessarily. I

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<v Speaker 3>think you can manipulate Putin through flattery or leaving out

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<v Speaker 3>criticism about as you successfully as you can negotiate with

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<v Speaker 3>a hungry mountain lion. It's just it's a useless effort.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's the way he does business well. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>a completely different thing. We're not negotiating on a house

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<v Speaker 3>or a car here.

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<v Speaker 2>If I flatter some lying, cheating I know he's a

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<v Speaker 2>scumbag car salesman, but I flatter him.

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<v Speaker 1>I know he's a jerk. I know him from around

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<v Speaker 1>the neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a bad guy, but I flatter him because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to do a deal with him.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one thing. There's no ultimate harm.

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<v Speaker 2>There really, but telling the world as the most important

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<v Speaker 2>country on planet that no, there's nothing to criticize about

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<v Speaker 2>what Russia did here.

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<v Speaker 1>Is not good. Yeah, oh, I agree completely. You know that.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just trying to, you know, express the Trump

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<v Speaker 3>point of view. That is one of my great criticisms

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<v Speaker 3>of Trump is he does not understand how the United

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<v Speaker 3>States and the way it behaves echoes through history like

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<v Speaker 3>a real estate deal doesn't. On the other hand, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>he does, according to his defenders, or in the case

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<v Speaker 3>of Jerry Baker, who is a great writer, happens to

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<v Speaker 3>work for the Wall Street Journal. Most of the time

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<v Speaker 3>he's trying to understand exactly what Trump's at And I

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<v Speaker 3>thought it was very interesting you even if you don't

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<v Speaker 3>agree with it. But first, as a bit of a

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<v Speaker 3>scene setter, here's a reporter grilling the president yesterday subsequent

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<v Speaker 3>to his meeting with Macrone, the pante wasted leader of France,

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<v Speaker 3>talking about you in Russia and European security. And I

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<v Speaker 3>actually I have a lot of sympathy with mccrone's point,

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<v Speaker 3>if you at least to some extent. But the Roll

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<v Speaker 3>forty one, Michael Lin will discuss a dictator.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you use the same words for gold and cruising

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<v Speaker 1>the part.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't use those words lightly. I think that we're

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<v Speaker 4>going to see how it all works out.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see what happens.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we have a chance of a really good

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<v Speaker 4>settlement between various countries. And you know, you're talking about

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<v Speaker 4>Europe and you're talking about Ukraine as part of that

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<v Speaker 4>whole situation. The other side has a lot of support also,

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<v Speaker 4>so let's see how it all works.

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<v Speaker 1>It might work out.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, you can never make up lives. The one thing

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<v Speaker 4>you can, you can make up the money, but you

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<v Speaker 4>can't make up the lives. A lot of lives lost.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, probably a lot more lives than people are

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<v Speaker 4>talking about. It's been a rough war, but I think

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<v Speaker 4>we're close to getting itself.

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<v Speaker 2>So you think Trump thinks that there's an advantage to

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<v Speaker 2>no calling Putin a dictator. Because he called Puttin a dictator,

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<v Speaker 2>he's less likely to do a deal.

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<v Speaker 3>He's yes, he is doing what you described, more or less,

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<v Speaker 3>he's flattering all of the parties to the deal before

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<v Speaker 3>the negotiation, because it just does not do any good

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<v Speaker 3>to antagonize the person you're negotiating with.

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<v Speaker 2>Generally, but as you keep pointing out, putting such a crocodile,

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<v Speaker 2>he's gonna do a deal if he thinks it's in

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<v Speaker 2>his best interest, and he's not going to do a

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<v Speaker 2>deal if he doesn't. The end, with no other extraneous

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<v Speaker 2>things mattering whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, exactly, he is no more throne to flattery nor

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<v Speaker 3>threat than a crocodile.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 3>But Trump does business the way Trump does business another

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<v Speaker 3>explanation of and obviously he does throw the word lightly

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<v Speaker 3>around dictator, called Zelenski a dictator, even though he's clearly

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<v Speaker 3>not anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>And if I was gonna, you know, back on the

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<v Speaker 2>side of giving Trump some credit, He's done a hell

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<v Speaker 2>of a lot more deals than practically anybody, and maybe he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Dealt with some really bad guys before, where you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Other people would have said, look, you can't flatter old

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<v Speaker 2>you know whatever mob boss or whoever he had to

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<v Speaker 2>deal with tried to get a hotel Bilt Matt turns

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<v Speaker 2>out he did.

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<v Speaker 1>He feels like it helped him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I suppose. And this really gets into seven

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<v Speaker 3>dimensional chess. Maybe he wants Putin to think he thinks

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<v Speaker 3>he can flatter Putin. Ah, yeah, but I don't know. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>This is the really really important part. I'm gonna quote

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<v Speaker 3>Jerry Baker a bit here and there, as we discussed.

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<v Speaker 3>But Jerry's trying to figure out Trump's strategy, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think he may be onto something. Beneath Donald Trump's mendacious

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<v Speaker 3>that means dishonest contempt for Ukraine and its dictator, and

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<v Speaker 3>his cringing admiration for Russia and the genie in the Kremlin,

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<v Speaker 3>there seems to be a kernel of strategic reasoning.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I read that opening.

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<v Speaker 3>Partly to illustrate that Baker is no fan of what

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<v Speaker 3>Trump said recently, but he says he isn't wrong that

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<v Speaker 3>America has born the burdens of global leadership for far

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<v Speaker 3>too long undeniably truth. Look at NATO and their lack

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<v Speaker 3>of spending on defense. Just that's almost the only thing

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<v Speaker 3>you need to see. And he's not wrong that the

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<v Speaker 3>liberal order we have led is giving way to a

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<v Speaker 3>world in which the US must pursue a narrower definition

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<v Speaker 3>of the national interest, and that the age of spending

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<v Speaker 3>hundreds of billions of dollars to defend parts of the

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<v Speaker 3>world that are no longer essential to US security and

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<v Speaker 3>for nations that have the resources to defend themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>That era is over. And what he says is this.

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<v Speaker 3>Strengthens the impression that mister Trump may be leading the

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<v Speaker 3>US toward a return of a great power approach to

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<v Speaker 3>global strategy. Here's what that is if you're not familiar

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<v Speaker 3>with it. As he uppends a foreign policy, there's been

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of talk in diplomatic circles lately of.

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<v Speaker 1>A new Yalta.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the nineteen forty five conference on the Black

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<v Speaker 3>Sea where the leaders of the US, the UK, which

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<v Speaker 3>used to matter and the Soviet Union struck up a

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<v Speaker 3>deal to carve up the planet. This is your sphere

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<v Speaker 3>of influence. This is our sphere of influence. This is

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<v Speaker 3>your sphere of influence. We don't mess with yours. You

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<v Speaker 3>don't mess with ours, and we don't go to war. Now, Jack,

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<v Speaker 3>you have been talking about how what's his face?

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<v Speaker 1>The great reporter puts out a newsletter.

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<v Speaker 3>Mark alperson Mark Alpern has been describing lately how Washington

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<v Speaker 3>is a buzz with some sort of great bargain that

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<v Speaker 3>is allegedly being crafted behind the scenes that.

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<v Speaker 2>Includes Greenland and Taiwan and Russia and Ukraine and a

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<v Speaker 2>whole bunch of stuff exactly as a way to make

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<v Speaker 2>business not war in the style of Yalta. Getting back

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<v Speaker 2>to Jerry Baker, mister Trump's apparent hunger for US territorial

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<v Speaker 2>expansion in Greenland, Panama, Gaza, even maybe even Canada, his

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<v Speaker 2>ambitions to tie foreign policy to the exploitation of economic resources,

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<v Speaker 2>his seeming acquiescence to Vladimir Putin's European ambitions, and similar

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<v Speaker 2>expressions of respect for Shijin Ping of China suggest a

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<v Speaker 2>hard edged foreign policy realism revolving around a new big

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<v Speaker 2>three powers, while another yalta.

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<v Speaker 1>This is damned interesting. This is damned interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I don't want to get sucked into

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<v Speaker 2>giving Trump way too much credit for the sort of

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<v Speaker 2>thing that I don't think he's spent a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>his life thinking about. But it's possible that he and

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<v Speaker 2>smart people around him have decided we're into a new era. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>we're into an era much like you know, the Soviet

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<v Speaker 2>Union in the United States where you have to say

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<v Speaker 2>you get that side of the world, we get this

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<v Speaker 2>side of the world. You don't mess with us like

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<v Speaker 2>you were just talking about. It might be where we

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<v Speaker 2>are now. It's funny. It's easy.

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<v Speaker 3>Even if you spend your life studying massive changes in

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<v Speaker 3>global dynamics, it's easy to think, well, massive changes are

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<v Speaker 3>in history books. Now we have stability and rules based

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<v Speaker 3>blah blah blah. There will never be as Fuki Yama

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<v Speaker 3>idiotically said, we're at the end of history. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>how did you get those words to come out of

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<v Speaker 3>his mouth anyway?

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, So, set aside.

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<v Speaker 3>The moral indignation about the president's till to Moscow, take

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<v Speaker 3>a take at face value. There's potentially profound shift and

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<v Speaker 3>foreign policy. Then he gets into three potential implications, what

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<v Speaker 3>would this new world look like? I humbly submit that

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<v Speaker 3>we should break semi on time for once and give

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<v Speaker 3>plenty of time for those three main potential implications.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm fascinated by this idea. I know, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>I have accused Trump many times of not being real

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<v Speaker 3>up on the historical significance of certain maneuvers and the

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<v Speaker 3>presidency and the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think he understands power, leverage and money though, true, Dad, huh, So,

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<v Speaker 2>we got a lot more on the way, including paying

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<v Speaker 2>off what that would look like.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll do that next.

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<v Speaker 2>And has anybody had increased luminosity from their silk pillow

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<v Speaker 2>case if you have? Our text line is four one

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<v Speaker 2>five two nine five KFTC.

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<v Speaker 5>And finally, doctors are warning against a new viral TikTok

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<v Speaker 5>trend in which users are dropping heavy objects on their feet.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, at a certain point, we just have to

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<v Speaker 5>let evolution do its.

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<v Speaker 1>Thing, as we've argued many times.

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<v Speaker 2>And apparently TikTok's back is the thing everywhere and just

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<v Speaker 2>people are using it, and China continues to spy on

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<v Speaker 2>us and whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>And propagandize our young people yeah, lovely. Speaking of China,

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<v Speaker 3>we've been discussing Jerry Baker's column in the Wall Street Journal.

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<v Speaker 3>He's talking about how Trump is showing a number of

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<v Speaker 3>signs of going toward moving toward a great power approach

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<v Speaker 3>to global strategy, not the rules based international order of

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<v Speaker 3>the last fifty seventy five years whatever, and the references.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we're going for New Yalta conference.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a nineteen forty five conference where the leaders of

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<v Speaker 3>the US, the UK, and the Soviet Union struck a

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<v Speaker 3>deal to carve up the planet back.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen forty five.

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<v Speaker 3>And there are rumors Mark Alpern we've discussed, says the

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<v Speaker 3>Washington's a buzz with talk of just such a giant agreement,

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<v Speaker 3>which might indeed include Greenland and Panama and Gazan, Canada,

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<v Speaker 3>who knows what, but almost certainly Taiwan, Which brings us

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<v Speaker 3>to Baker's analysis. If there is a move towards this

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<v Speaker 3>great power world and a New Yalta first, we can

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<v Speaker 3>look forward to territorial insecurity. In a Trumpian vision of

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<v Speaker 3>the world in which great power sees what they can,

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<v Speaker 3>we can expect a much more fluid, muscular approach to

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<v Speaker 3>international boundaries than the last half century's efforts at a

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<v Speaker 3>rules based system. And then of course he name checks Taiwan.

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard it said many times. If Taiwan goes, there

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<v Speaker 3>will be a global depression because of the acute need

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<v Speaker 3>for their advanced computer chips, mostly in some other technologies,

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<v Speaker 3>but mostly the chips. There's an argument to Trump's approach

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<v Speaker 3>to Russia. It represents a hardened approach to Taiwan, saying

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<v Speaker 3>that cutting Ukraine loose was necessary to enable Washington to

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<v Speaker 3>focus on China. But is this mister Trump's view? How

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<v Speaker 3>essential does he think of free taiwan Is? And it's

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<v Speaker 3>not clear? And then he talks about how Trump has

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<v Speaker 3>also spoken favorably of Shijin paying is a brilliant guy.

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<v Speaker 3>He controls one point four billion people with an iron fist.

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<v Speaker 3>Is he just trying to flatter him?

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<v Speaker 1>Does he mean it?

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody's quite sure. So territorial instability definitely would come down

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<v Speaker 3>the pike. Second, nuclear proliferation. The big difference between the

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<v Speaker 3>great power world of the past and that of today

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<v Speaker 3>is the thermonuclear bomb. If small nations can no longer

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<v Speaker 3>rely on large, powerful allies to protect them against predators,

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<v Speaker 3>they have one last option, the threat of nuclear annihilation

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<v Speaker 3>for any country that tries to invade them. Then he

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<v Speaker 3>goes through quite a list of countries that don't have

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<v Speaker 3>nuclear arms because they're under the US nuclear umbrella and

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<v Speaker 3>they are our allies, Germany, let's see Poland, Oh blah

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<v Speaker 3>bah bah. Who else does he mat well? Bunches of

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<v Speaker 3>countries and obviously Korea, Japan.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, the more countries that have NU clear weapons, more

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<v Speaker 2>likely that one gets used on purpose or by mistake

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, or gets loose.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, absolutely, And then the third thing to look

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<v Speaker 3>for is geopolitical and economic realignments. If Europeans no longer

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<v Speaker 3>view America as a dependable ally, they will seek alternatives.

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<v Speaker 3>In the pre World War One era of Great European powers,

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<v Speaker 3>countries shifted allegiances fairly regularly. Britain could have signed up

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<v Speaker 3>with Germany rather than France and Russia. We may now

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<v Speaker 3>see that kind of hard, self interested realism among powers

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<v Speaker 3>replace attachment to sentimental ideas and values. You know, I

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<v Speaker 3>think he almost undersells the idea of the democracy, the

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<v Speaker 3>world banding together to defend freedom and free trade and democracy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's more than sentimental ideals. It certainly values.

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<v Speaker 2>If Germany was willing to go all in on using

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<v Speaker 2>Russian gas until the invasion of Ukraine, they don't care

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<v Speaker 2>about Russia's value. I think history will look back on

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<v Speaker 2>Angela Merkel as a self important jackass who did all

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong things anyway to finish a Baker's piece here,

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<v Speaker 2>For all its frailties as a geopolitical force, Europe's economy

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<v Speaker 2>is many times the size of Russia's, and combined with

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<v Speaker 2>the UK's, it's on par with Americas. Europe as a

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<v Speaker 2>whole as an economy just about as big as ours.

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<v Speaker 2>It's already heavily dependent on China, and Europeans now see

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<v Speaker 2>closer ties with troubling implications for American interests. In as summary,

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<v Speaker 2>mister Trump may well like his new world's order, but

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<v Speaker 2>it will come at a steep price. Well, at least

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<v Speaker 2>sounded like the beginning of this article that he was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of presenting it as that there might not be

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<v Speaker 2>any other choice. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think he would probably put it, and we

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<v Speaker 3>ought to try to talk to Gerard Baker someday.

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<v Speaker 1>Fascinating guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway he might put it. It's not not clearly true

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<v Speaker 3>that the old choice will work. I think he would

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<v Speaker 3>say it can if we're super smart about it and

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<v Speaker 3>do it in the right way. But there are those

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<v Speaker 3>in the Trump orbit who say, hell, we get their

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<v Speaker 3>emails all the time, say no, the old world order

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<v Speaker 3>is broke. It's not going to work anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>So we need to grab hold of the future and

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<v Speaker 2>change before it changes us. If there are still human

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<v Speaker 2>beings on the planet. A couple hundred years from now,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the big stories in history books will be

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<v Speaker 2>the rise of China and how it just changed the

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<v Speaker 2>world order.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah from the previous century.

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Cotton in his new book talks about how China's

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<v Speaker 2>military rises the fastest expansion and growth of a military

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<v Speaker 2>in world history.

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<v Speaker 3>I think China's peak and decline is going to happen

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<v Speaker 3>within five years, maybe maybe ten. But they'll soon be

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<v Speaker 3>like Britain, a shrunken former power might be, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>after we're dead. And on Europe, the coddling of Europe

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<v Speaker 3>over the last fifty years one of the greatest mistakes

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<v Speaker 3>ever made.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, that's some heavy, interesting stuff. We got a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more on the way. Stay with us, Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 6>After a trans female basketball player missed her game.

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<v Speaker 1>The team ended up.

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<v Speaker 6>Losing by twenty six points, but on the bright side,

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<v Speaker 6>they didn't have to shower in their uniforms afterward.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good joke. I'm not sure I followed that well.

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<v Speaker 3>What was confusing about it was that Guttfeld used a

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<v Speaker 3>trans girl and her talking about a dude, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think we needed more setup to that joke. He was

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<v Speaker 3>talking about a dominant basketball team whose dude couldn't play

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<v Speaker 3>one day and got hammered.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently. Oh okay, a bit of missing context there, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Should making the point that that player made a big difference.

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<v Speaker 2>Having having a dude on your team was a great benefit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a little more gender bending madness. If you're

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<v Speaker 3>in the mood for it, you know, why not? Michael,

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<v Speaker 3>do you have the theme ready?

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<v Speaker 1>We don't? You know? No, no, this you know what.

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<v Speaker 3>Elon Musk is going to take a look at your

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<v Speaker 3>list of five things and he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna cross it off. I've seen his list. It was

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<v Speaker 2>playing theme songs on time and.

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<v Speaker 1>Under bending madness.

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<v Speaker 3>A couple of items worth mentioning. Riley Gains And if

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<v Speaker 3>you don't know Riley, she's the great college swimmer who

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<v Speaker 3>called out Hey, there's a full grown dude in the

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<v Speaker 3>locker room calling himself a woman, and I'm sick of

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<v Speaker 3>pen making me put up with it. God bless her

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<v Speaker 3>for her current anyway, she's been a leading light in

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<v Speaker 3>keeping men out of women's sports.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>The President signed in order to ban transgender athletes from

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<v Speaker 3>school sports, and the NCAA claim to have rewritten its

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<v Speaker 3>rules to comply. But now Riley and Texas Attorney General

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<v Speaker 3>Ken Paxton have gotten together to say the NCAA policy

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<v Speaker 3>has way too many loopholes to be meaningful. She says, quote,

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<v Speaker 3>this policy is about as clear as mud, and very

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<v Speaker 3>very much still allows men to compete on women's teams

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<v Speaker 3>and receive women's benefits, And she says we're watching to

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<v Speaker 3>see what they actually do. But critics of the NCAA's

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<v Speaker 3>changes claim that the new policy bases gender on birth

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<v Speaker 3>certificates or a doctor's certification, both of which can be

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<v Speaker 3>changed by compliance state officials or activist doctors. Sure, and

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<v Speaker 3>that does not comply with the Trump administration's definition, which

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<v Speaker 3>maintains that sex is immutable and binary.

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<v Speaker 2>Why can't they just go with if you got a penis, because.

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<v Speaker 3>You can get your penis lopped off, then you have

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<v Speaker 3>still have male skeleton, lungs, bone, well, I said, skeleton

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<v Speaker 3>already muscles, et cetera. Anyway, so we're and this is

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<v Speaker 3>it's true of the DEI stuff, it's true of the

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<v Speaker 3>race based college admissions.

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<v Speaker 1>They will not change.

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<v Speaker 2>They will change the appearance of what they do to

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<v Speaker 2>try to fool you and still get away with their

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<v Speaker 2>nefarious radical schemes.

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<v Speaker 3>Moving along, maybe you heard about this story. I thought

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<v Speaker 3>it was worth mentioning Columbine High School. Yes, that Columbine

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<v Speaker 3>High School news story recently that a female teacher was

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<v Speaker 3>sexually grooming a free female student and the administration knew

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<v Speaker 3>it and covered it up and allowed the girl to

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<v Speaker 3>change her status to homeless so she could legally move

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<v Speaker 3>out of her parents home and into the teacher home.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, they could be lovers. Wow, Holy crap.

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<v Speaker 3>When the student's mom got w into this, she discovered

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<v Speaker 3>thousands of phone calls and texts between the teacher, who

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<v Speaker 3>had at minimum been making out with the student. When

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<v Speaker 3>the student's mom went to the principal to let them

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<v Speaker 3>know that a predator had been sexually grooming her daughter,

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<v Speaker 3>the principal responded and I quote Ms Kearnie takes interest

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<v Speaker 3>in helping kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Navigate their sexuality.

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<v Speaker 3>But again, the administration, knowing that this girl had a

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<v Speaker 3>home and parents, helped her declare herself homeless so she

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<v Speaker 3>could move in with her teacher. The sexualization of children

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<v Speaker 3>in schools and trying to pry them away from the

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<v Speaker 3>families straight out of Marxism.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and an adult helping a child navigate their sexuality

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<v Speaker 2>is one hundred percent grooming.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean one percent is the definition of grooming. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it is absolutely true.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, if you don't get this, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what to do except slap you upside the head any time,

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<v Speaker 2>any it would help me any time an adult says

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<v Speaker 2>and hey, let's not tell your parents about this. Something

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<v Speaker 2>awful is going on unless there is a clear and

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<v Speaker 2>documented history of abuse or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Moving along, I just wanted to get this on.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a link at Armstrong and gedddy dot com

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<v Speaker 3>under hot links. I'm ninety percent sure, he says, scrolling

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, what is Sage's Law?

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<v Speaker 3>And this is a law that is got some momentum

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<v Speaker 3>in Virginia and people are becoming aware of it around

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<v Speaker 3>the country schools keeping secrets from parents open the door

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<v Speaker 3>to predators, I'm reading from their website. So do states

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<v Speaker 3>who call it abuse to raise girls as girls and

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<v Speaker 3>boys as boys and rip them from loving families to

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<v Speaker 3>affirm them in state custom and both led to this

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<v Speaker 3>person's sages trafficking.

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<v Speaker 1>Her school affirmed her.

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<v Speaker 3>As a boy when she was a confused adolescent afraid

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<v Speaker 3>of puberty, etc. We've talked about this and told her

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<v Speaker 3>to use the boy's bathroom, but kept her parents in

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<v Speaker 3>the dark. She was terribly bullied, assaulted in the boy's bathroom,

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<v Speaker 3>fled the threats, was caught, drugged and exploited by sex traffickers,

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<v Speaker 3>And when the FBI found Sage, a judge withheld her

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<v Speaker 3>from her parents over false claims of misgendering abuse and

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<v Speaker 3>ordered her into a boy's state home, where she was

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<v Speaker 3>raped and assaulted again. She fled and was caught again

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<v Speaker 3>for months of horrific abuse before.

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<v Speaker 1>She was finally rescued.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's very simple, no secret gender transition in schools.

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<v Speaker 2>And two, it's not abuse to raise a child according

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<v Speaker 2>to his or her biology. We've got their web page

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<v Speaker 2>at Armstrong and getty dot com under hot links it's

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<v Speaker 2>called Sage's Law.

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<v Speaker 1>Read it, know it, love it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a brief but important gender bending madness updates. I've

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<v Speaker 2>noticed you have several segments that you do that have

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<v Speaker 2>theme music. I don't have one. I should really come

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<v Speaker 2>up with something that has theme music. I just Jack's

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<v Speaker 2>ramblings and then there's music.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It's hard to Alman brothers rambling Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe just I haven't read this whole thing. This is

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<v Speaker 2>in the Wall Street Journal today in the opinion section.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Gallagher, who we like bring warriors back to the

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<v Speaker 2>US military recruitment campaign should frame services the ultimate test

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<v Speaker 2>of strength, courage, and leadership. Remember when Mike Lions told

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<v Speaker 2>us how well that worked as a recruitment tool. I

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<v Speaker 2>know that it worked on me. I very nearly joined

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<v Speaker 2>the military and talk to recruiters, I mean as down

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<v Speaker 2>the pipeline, and I don't even remember why I changed

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<v Speaker 2>my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>But what was appealing to me about it was the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if I can do this. I think I

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<v Speaker 2>could do this, the challenge of it. And somehow we

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<v Speaker 2>got a realizing the best version of yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, somehow we got away.

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<v Speaker 2>From that in our military recruiting, and then numbers have

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<v Speaker 2>plummeted over the years. Well they've they've gone back up

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<v Speaker 2>a lot under Trump. Anyway, he's writing a piece about

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<v Speaker 2>how we need to get back to, you know, push yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>test yourself, how good can you eat? Be all you

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<v Speaker 2>can be as a military recruiting thing, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. I think that's a great idea.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I think it is too. He also I

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<v Speaker 3>read the piece and he mentions that.

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<v Speaker 1>Enlistment.

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<v Speaker 3>Enlistment seems to be very conditional on who's in the

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<v Speaker 3>White House in a way that's probably not super healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>So no, not shouldn't be that. That's not good, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe was off the other day.

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<v Speaker 2>I assume you're attending the Maha Kummele like so many

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<v Speaker 2>other people around the world did. Oh yeah, try to

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<v Speaker 2>keep me away. I was unaware of this thing. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest gathering that ever happens on planet Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>Every however many years, they don't have it every year.

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<v Speaker 1>It's in India.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a six week ritual bathing spectacle that is visible

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<v Speaker 2>from space. It's so large where everybody goes and bathes

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<v Speaker 2>in the river to cleanse themselves of their sins or

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<v Speaker 2>demons or something. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd have to read this. You can be troubled. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, read into it. I four hundred million people

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<v Speaker 1>attended this. Four hundred million. There's no close second to

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<v Speaker 1>gather make can Mecco look like a Little League game? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Well it certainly makes you know, whatever music festival you've

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<v Speaker 2>been to seem like nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's just stunning.

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<v Speaker 2>Four hundred million people over six weeks attended this and

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<v Speaker 2>it just wrapped up the other day. So if you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't make it, you'll have to go, say years from

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<v Speaker 2>now when they do it again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, keep in mind that they can hardly run the

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<v Speaker 3>thing without a trampling or two. Sometimes it's dozens of

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<v Speaker 3>people who get trampled.

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to go just for the logistics of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really need to bathe in that river. God,

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<v Speaker 2>dang it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's gotta get a little gaming. There are secondhand bathwater

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<v Speaker 3>is bad enough. Four hundred million people all bathing in

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<v Speaker 3>the same river.

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<v Speaker 1>It's people matter.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I don't know about that, but uh, what was

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<v Speaker 2>I gonna say? Oh, I just the logistics of it.

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<v Speaker 2>The food stands, the porta potties, the traffic.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even imagine how you put something like that together.

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<v Speaker 1>You're assuming there are porta potties. I was, do you

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<v Speaker 1>have knowledge that there are not? Well, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>India is not known for its gleaming sophistication everywhere. There

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<v Speaker 3>are certainly amazing parts of India, but some of it's

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit primitive by American standard.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, come again. Four hundred million people, even if

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<v Speaker 1>they have porta potties, they could get a.

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<v Speaker 2>Little out of hand. I mean, if you've been to

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<v Speaker 2>a music festival, you know, go early in the day.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh oh, I don't even want to think about that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so horrible.

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<v Speaker 3>I almost screamed at an innocent young woman last night.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm fairly proud of myself that I did not. I

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<v Speaker 3>came as close as you can come without actually erupting

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<v Speaker 3>like an insane volcano. I will describe the circumstances in a.

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<v Speaker 1>Moment, okay, fantastic. Among other things. On the way, Hey Michael,

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<v Speaker 1>have we played number four yet? The Greg guttfeldt Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>I know we haven't play it for me? Would thanks so?

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<v Speaker 6>Over the weekend, MSNBC canceled joy Read's TV show, and

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<v Speaker 6>according to the network, all of her wigs were quickly

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<v Speaker 6>released back into the wild.

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<v Speaker 1>What a numskull. So here's the situation.

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<v Speaker 3>We have insurance through our jobs, and as most insurance programs,

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<v Speaker 3>there are incentives. If you don't smoke, it costs less.

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<v Speaker 3>If you have a primary care physician, it costs less,

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<v Speaker 3>and you have to go to the primary care physician

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<v Speaker 3>and get a quote unquote physical or a preventative care

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<v Speaker 3>visit once a year. Now I have, as a guy

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<v Speaker 3>who's successfully dealing with high blood versus hypertension in HI

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff like that. I'm on the try not to

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<v Speaker 3>have a heart attack variety pack.

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<v Speaker 1>I call, you know, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Medications I take and I exercise, bab blah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going great.

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<v Speaker 2>But so I see my doctor every six months and

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<v Speaker 2>do a rigorous, thorough preventing me from croaking visit, not

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<v Speaker 2>every year, every six months. The blood work, although we've

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<v Speaker 2>cut back on that to once a year because it's

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<v Speaker 2>always good. The blood work, PSA test even for prostate cancer,

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<v Speaker 2>blood pressure, just everything very thorough.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the problem. Well, I will tell you this.

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<v Speaker 3>I checked and it said, no, you haven't had your

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<v Speaker 3>preventative care visits, so you're going to pay more for insurance.

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<v Speaker 3>And I said, no, I have. In fact, I do

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<v Speaker 3>it twice a year. Well, I got on the line because,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, the blanking website, you know what, I swore

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna stay calm.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to stay calm during this discussion. I can

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<v Speaker 1>do it. So the effing.

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<v Speaker 3>Website, of course didn't. More so I got on the

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<v Speaker 3>phone t help us know where to.

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<v Speaker 2>Direct the anger so we can ride along with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Are we angry at the insurance company.

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<v Speaker 1>Or the like?

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<v Speaker 3>I often say to my wife when she says, who

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<v Speaker 3>is that guy while we're watching a movie that's part

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<v Speaker 3>of the script writing, we're meant to wonder.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I would want to join in on the anger.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't know how to direct it. Okay, there'll

0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:24.920
<v Speaker 2>be plenty jack plenty of anger. So anyway, so I

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<v Speaker 2>call and say, hey, it says I haven't had this

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<v Speaker 2>but I have. And the nice girl says, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to make an appointment for that. I said,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do that twice a year. It's incredibly thorough.

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<v Speaker 2>Blah blah blah, and she says, you know what probably happens.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that this is in your case, but

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<v Speaker 2>what happens is if you go for your physical, your

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<v Speaker 2>preventative care visit, whatever you want to call it, and

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<v Speaker 2>then at the end of it, you say to the

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<v Speaker 2>doctor and he says, is there anything else? And you say,

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<v Speaker 2>my knee hurts and he says, well, you should put

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<v Speaker 2>some ice on it. That will be coded as a

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<v Speaker 2>diagnosis and a treatment, so it's not coded as a

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<v Speaker 2>preventative care business. And I said, do you understand how

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<v Speaker 2>moronic that is?

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<v Speaker 1>What you have just explained to me.

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<v Speaker 2>That moment, that moment there, that's what I struggle with

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<v Speaker 2>the moment before you talked, is where when they say

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<v Speaker 2>something that is ludicrous and then stop right And that's

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<v Speaker 2>one who I.

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<v Speaker 1>Had explodes like you just stopped.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that makes sense and that bothers me and I

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<v Speaker 3>went zero to sixty man, zero to sixty.

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<v Speaker 1>I raised my voice.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, this is like the Soviet effing union. What

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<v Speaker 2>matters is not the medical care. What matters is checking

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<v Speaker 2>the box. So it doesn't matter if you do the

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<v Speaker 2>right thing or not, just check the box. You have

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<v Speaker 2>conceded in the conversation that I did the right things,

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<v Speaker 2>but because of the unchecked box, I've got to go

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<v Speaker 2>waste everybody's time and money to do it again.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I said, but I understand, you don't make

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<v Speaker 3>the rules. You've been more than helpful. Thank you, goodbye,

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<v Speaker 3>and I hung up.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she said, I wonder why I blood pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>But here, here is the fundamental issue here, the idiotic

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<v Speaker 2>flaw in the system is so well known and so

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<v Speaker 2>easy to understand.

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<v Speaker 1>Even the girl answer in the phone said, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know it happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if it's that efing known, why has nobody fixed it?

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<v Speaker 2>How is there not some method by which I say, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>they may have coded it as put a little ice

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<v Speaker 2>on your knee if it hurts.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a fault.

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<v Speaker 2>You look at the you see the blood work, look

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<v Speaker 2>at it.

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<v Speaker 1>Look look do you see the report of.

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<v Speaker 2>The blood pressure which is rising as we speak. Well, sorry, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it was coded as this other thing. That's exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>kills socialism. Yeah, it becomes about the checking of the box,

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<v Speaker 2>not the doing of the act. So now what Thursday,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna walk into my doctor's office.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a terrific guy. Great doctor, I'm gonna say, doctor Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>Not as real Dad.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, if you want to walk in here, shake

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<v Speaker 3>my hand and leave.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm only here for one reason, and for God's sake,

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<v Speaker 3>don't ask me.

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<v Speaker 2>If there's anything you, as a physician, can help me with.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the one thing we must not do here. Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>The alternative being go to the front office. And I've

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<v Speaker 3>actually tried this and argue with the nice lady who

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<v Speaker 3>types into the computer and codes it for billing, and

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<v Speaker 3>explain to her, no, no, don't code it like that. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry because the doctor said, put ice on your knee,

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<v Speaker 3>So we have to.

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<v Speaker 1>I swear to God.

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<v Speaker 2>That moment, when you get the inex inexplicable explained nation

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm supposed to just accept it drives me crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like when I was trying to rent the car,

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<v Speaker 2>but I got there and they didn't have the car. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>if you book online, sometimes the car goes before you

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<v Speaker 2>get here, and then you just stop and I'm supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to just say, okay, no, no, you've described to me

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<v Speaker 2>the idiotic problem. I've already described that I need you

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