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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong is Joe Getty Armstrong and

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Speaker 1: Jetty and he Armstrong and Eddy.

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Speaker 2: So the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal has

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Speaker 2: a sad day for the US at the UN, the

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Speaker 2: Land of the Free votes with Russia on a Ukraine

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Speaker 2: war resolution. We brought that up with Tom mcclintalk last hour.

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Speaker 2: If you didn't get hear that, get the podcast Armstrong

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Speaker 2: and Getty on demand. But the resolution was basically calling,

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Speaker 2: you know, Russia the aggressor and that they need to

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Speaker 2: get out. And we didn't vote yes on that. We

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Speaker 2: voted with Russia and North Korean some other scumbag countries

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Speaker 2: on not wanting to call out Russia in that war.

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Speaker 3: And as Tom mcclintact, the Congressman said, heal give plenty

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Speaker 3: of latitude to Trump to negotiate the way he sees

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Speaker 3: fit to try to end the war. It's fairly obviously

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Speaker 3: to me anyway, Trump trying to avoid any antagonizing the

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Speaker 3: people with whom he'll be negotiating, specifically Putin unnecessarily. I

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Speaker 3: think you can manipulate Putin through flattery or leaving out

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Speaker 3: criticism about as you successfully as you can negotiate with

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Speaker 3: a hungry mountain lion. It's just it's a useless effort.

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Speaker 3: But that's the way he does business well. But it's

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Speaker 3: a completely different thing. We're not negotiating on a house

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Speaker 3: or a car here.

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Speaker 2: If I flatter some lying, cheating I know he's a

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Speaker 2: scumbag car salesman, but I flatter him.

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Speaker 1: I know he's a jerk. I know him from around

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Speaker 1: the neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: He's a bad guy, but I flatter him because I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to do a deal with him.

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Speaker 1: That's one thing. There's no ultimate harm.

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Speaker 2: There really, but telling the world as the most important

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Speaker 2: country on planet that no, there's nothing to criticize about

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Speaker 2: what Russia did here.

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Speaker 1: Is not good. Yeah, oh, I agree completely. You know that.

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Speaker 3: I was just trying to, you know, express the Trump

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Speaker 3: point of view. That is one of my great criticisms

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Speaker 3: of Trump is he does not understand how the United

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Speaker 3: States and the way it behaves echoes through history like

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Speaker 3: a real estate deal doesn't. On the other hand, maybe

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Speaker 3: he does, according to his defenders, or in the case

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Speaker 3: of Jerry Baker, who is a great writer, happens to

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Speaker 3: work for the Wall Street Journal. Most of the time

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Speaker 3: he's trying to understand exactly what Trump's at And I

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Speaker 3: thought it was very interesting you even if you don't

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Speaker 3: agree with it. But first, as a bit of a

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Speaker 3: scene setter, here's a reporter grilling the president yesterday subsequent

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Speaker 3: to his meeting with Macrone, the pante wasted leader of France,

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Speaker 3: talking about you in Russia and European security. And I

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Speaker 3: actually I have a lot of sympathy with mccrone's point,

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Speaker 3: if you at least to some extent. But the Roll

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Speaker 3: forty one, Michael Lin will discuss a dictator.

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Speaker 1: Would you use the same words for gold and cruising

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Speaker 1: the part.

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Speaker 4: I don't use those words lightly. I think that we're

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Speaker 4: going to see how it all works out.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what happens.

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Speaker 4: I think we have a chance of a really good

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Speaker 4: settlement between various countries. And you know, you're talking about

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Speaker 4: Europe and you're talking about Ukraine as part of that

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Speaker 4: whole situation. The other side has a lot of support also,

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Speaker 4: so let's see how it all works.

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Speaker 1: It might work out.

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Speaker 4: Look, you can never make up lives. The one thing

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Speaker 4: you can, you can make up the money, but you

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Speaker 4: can't make up the lives. A lot of lives lost.

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Speaker 4: I think, probably a lot more lives than people are

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Speaker 4: talking about. It's been a rough war, but I think

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Speaker 4: we're close to getting itself.

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Speaker 2: So you think Trump thinks that there's an advantage to

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Speaker 2: no calling Putin a dictator. Because he called Puttin a dictator,

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Speaker 2: he's less likely to do a deal.

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Speaker 3: He's yes, he is doing what you described, more or less,

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Speaker 3: he's flattering all of the parties to the deal before

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Speaker 3: the negotiation, because it just does not do any good

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Speaker 3: to antagonize the person you're negotiating with.

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Speaker 2: Generally, but as you keep pointing out, putting such a crocodile,

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Speaker 2: he's gonna do a deal if he thinks it's in

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Speaker 3: Right, exactly, he is no more throne to flattery nor

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Speaker 3: threat than a crocodile.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, in my opinion.

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Speaker 3: But Trump does business the way Trump does business another

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Speaker 3: explanation of and obviously he does throw the word lightly

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Speaker 3: around dictator, called Zelenski a dictator, even though he's clearly

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Speaker 2: And if I was gonna, you know, back on the

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Speaker 2: side of giving Trump some credit, He's done a hell

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Speaker 2: of a lot more deals than practically anybody, and maybe he's.

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Speaker 1: Dealt with some really bad guys before, where you know.

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Speaker 2: Other people would have said, look, you can't flatter old

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Speaker 2: you know whatever mob boss or whoever he had to

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Speaker 2: out he did.

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Speaker 1: He feels like it helped him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I suppose. And this really gets into seven

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Speaker 3: dimensional chess. Maybe he wants Putin to think he thinks

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Speaker 3: he can flatter Putin. Ah, yeah, but I don't know. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: This is the really really important part. I'm gonna quote

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Speaker 3: Jerry Baker a bit here and there, as we discussed.

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Speaker 3: But Jerry's trying to figure out Trump's strategy, and I

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Speaker 3: think he may be onto something. Beneath Donald Trump's mendacious

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Speaker 3: that means dishonest contempt for Ukraine and its dictator, and

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Speaker 3: his cringing admiration for Russia and the genie in the Kremlin,

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Speaker 3: there seems to be a kernel of strategic reasoning.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I read that opening.

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Speaker 3: Partly to illustrate that Baker is no fan of what

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Speaker 3: Trump said recently, but he says he isn't wrong that

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Speaker 3: America has born the burdens of global leadership for far

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Speaker 3: too long undeniably truth. Look at NATO and their lack

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Speaker 3: of spending on defense. Just that's almost the only thing

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Speaker 3: you need to see. And he's not wrong that the

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Speaker 3: liberal order we have led is giving way to a

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Speaker 3: world in which the US must pursue a narrower definition

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Speaker 3: of the national interest, and that the age of spending

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Speaker 3: world that are no longer essential to US security and

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Speaker 3: for nations that have the resources to defend themselves.

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Speaker 1: That era is over. And what he says is this.

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Speaker 3: Strengthens the impression that mister Trump may be leading the

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Speaker 3: US toward a return of a great power approach to

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Speaker 3: global strategy. Here's what that is if you're not familiar

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Speaker 3: with it. As he uppends a foreign policy, there's been

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Speaker 3: a lot of talk in diplomatic circles lately of.

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Speaker 1: A new Yalta.

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Speaker 3: That was the nineteen forty five conference on the Black

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Speaker 3: used to matter and the Soviet Union struck up a

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Speaker 3: deal to carve up the planet. This is your sphere

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Speaker 3: of influence. This is our sphere of influence. This is

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Speaker 3: your sphere of influence. We don't mess with yours. You

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Speaker 3: don't mess with ours, and we don't go to war. Now, Jack,

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Speaker 3: you have been talking about how what's his face?

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Speaker 1: The great reporter puts out a newsletter.

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Speaker 3: Mark alperson Mark Alpern has been describing lately how Washington

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Speaker 3: is a buzz with some sort of great bargain that

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Speaker 3: is allegedly being crafted behind the scenes that.

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Speaker 2: Includes Greenland and Taiwan and Russia and Ukraine and a

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Speaker 2: business not war in the style of Yalta. Getting back

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Speaker 2: to Jerry Baker, mister Trump's apparent hunger for US territorial

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Speaker 2: expansion in Greenland, Panama, Gaza, even maybe even Canada, his

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Speaker 2: his seeming acquiescence to Vladimir Putin's European ambitions, and similar

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Speaker 2: expressions of respect for Shijin Ping of China suggest a

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Speaker 2: hard edged foreign policy realism revolving around a new big

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Speaker 2: three powers, while another yalta.

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Speaker 1: This is damned interesting. This is damned interesting.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I don't want to get sucked into

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Speaker 2: giving Trump way too much credit for the sort of

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Speaker 2: his life thinking about. But it's possible that he and

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Speaker 2: smart people around him have decided we're into a new era. Now,

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Speaker 2: we're into an era much like you know, the Soviet

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Speaker 2: side of the world. You don't mess with us like

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Speaker 2: you were just talking about. It might be where we

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Speaker 2: are now. It's funny. It's easy.

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Speaker 3: Even if you spend your life studying massive changes in

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Speaker 3: global dynamics, it's easy to think, well, massive changes are

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Speaker 3: in history books. Now we have stability and rules based

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Speaker 3: blah blah blah. There will never be as Fuki Yama

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Speaker 3: idiotically said, we're at the end of history. I mean,

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Speaker 3: how did you get those words to come out of

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Speaker 1: Ah, So, set aside.

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Speaker 3: The moral indignation about the president's till to Moscow, take

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Speaker 3: a take at face value. There's potentially profound shift and

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Speaker 3: foreign policy. Then he gets into three potential implications, what

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Speaker 3: would this new world look like? I humbly submit that

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Speaker 3: we should break semi on time for once and give

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm fascinated by this idea. I know, I know.

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Speaker 3: I have accused Trump many times of not being real

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Speaker 2: I do think he understands power, leverage and money though, true, Dad, huh, So,

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Speaker 2: we got a lot more on the way, including paying

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Speaker 1: We'll do that next.

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Speaker 2: And has anybody had increased luminosity from their silk pillow

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Speaker 2: five two nine five KFTC.

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Speaker 5: And finally, doctors are warning against a new viral TikTok

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Speaker 5: trend in which users are dropping heavy objects on their feet.

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Speaker 5: You know, at a certain point, we just have to

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Speaker 1: Thing, as we've argued many times.

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Speaker 2: And apparently TikTok's back is the thing everywhere and just

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Speaker 3: And propagandize our young people yeah, lovely. Speaking of China,

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Speaker 3: we've been discussing Jerry Baker's column in the Wall Street Journal.

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Speaker 3: He's talking about how Trump is showing a number of

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Speaker 3: to global strategy, not the rules based international order of

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Speaker 3: the last fifty seventy five years whatever, and the references.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we're going for New Yalta conference.

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Speaker 3: That's a nineteen forty five conference where the leaders of

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Speaker 1: In nineteen forty five.

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Speaker 3: And there are rumors Mark Alpern we've discussed, says the

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Speaker 3: Washington's a buzz with talk of just such a giant agreement,

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Speaker 3: which might indeed include Greenland and Panama and Gazan, Canada,

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Speaker 3: who knows what, but almost certainly Taiwan, Which brings us

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Speaker 3: to Baker's analysis. If there is a move towards this

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Speaker 3: great power world and a New Yalta first, we can

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Speaker 3: look forward to territorial insecurity. In a Trumpian vision of

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Speaker 3: the world in which great power sees what they can,

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Speaker 3: we can expect a much more fluid, muscular approach to

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Speaker 3: will be a global depression because of the acute need

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Speaker 3: A couple of items worth mentioning. Riley Gains And if

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Speaker 3: But again, the administration, knowing that this girl had a

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Speaker 2: Well, and an adult helping a child navigate their sexuality

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Speaker 2: And again, if you don't get this, I don't know

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Speaker 3: We have a link at Armstrong and gedddy dot com

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Speaker 3: And this is a law that is got some momentum

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Speaker 2: So it's very simple, no secret gender transition in schools.

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Speaker 1: Read it, know it, love it.

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Speaker 2: a lot under Trump. Anyway, he's writing a piece about

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Speaker 2: how we need to get back to, you know, push yourself,

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Speaker 2: test yourself, how good can you eat? Be all you

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Speaker 2: can be as a military recruiting thing, and I just

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Speaker 2: I love that. I think that's a great idea.

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Speaker 3: And then I think it is too. He also I

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Speaker 3: read the piece and he mentions that.

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Speaker 1: Enlistment.

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Speaker 3: Enlistment seems to be very conditional on who's in the

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Speaker 3: White House in a way that's probably not super healthy.

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Speaker 1: So no, not shouldn't be that. That's not good, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Joe was off the other day.

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Speaker 2: I assume you're attending the Maha Kummele like so many

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Speaker 2: other people around the world did. Oh yeah, try to

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Speaker 2: keep me away. I was unaware of this thing. It's

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Speaker 2: the biggest gathering that ever happens on planet Earth.

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Speaker 1: Every however many years, they don't have it every year.

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Speaker 1: It's in India.

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Speaker 2: It's a six week ritual bathing spectacle that is visible

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Speaker 2: from space. It's so large where everybody goes and bathes

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Speaker 2: in the river to cleanse themselves of their sins or

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Speaker 2: demons or something. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You'd have to read this. You can be troubled. Actually,

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Speaker 1: you know, read into it. I four hundred million people

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Speaker 1: attended this. Four hundred million. There's no close second to

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Speaker 1: gather make can Mecco look like a Little League game? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Well it certainly makes you know, whatever music festival you've

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Speaker 2: been to seem like nothing.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's just stunning.

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Speaker 2: Four hundred million people over six weeks attended this and

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Speaker 2: it just wrapped up the other day. So if you

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Speaker 2: didn't make it, you'll have to go, say years from

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Speaker 2: now when they do it again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, keep in mind that they can hardly run the

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Speaker 3: thing without a trampling or two. Sometimes it's dozens of

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Speaker 3: people who get trampled.

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Speaker 2: I would like to go just for the logistics of it.

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Speaker 2: I don't really need to bathe in that river. God,

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Speaker 2: dang it.

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Speaker 3: That's gotta get a little gaming. There are secondhand bathwater

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Speaker 3: is bad enough. Four hundred million people all bathing in

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Speaker 3: the same river.

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Speaker 1: It's people matter.

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Speaker 2: Well I don't know about that, but uh, what was

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Speaker 2: I gonna say? Oh, I just the logistics of it.

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Speaker 2: The food stands, the porta potties, the traffic.

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Speaker 1: I can't even imagine how you put something like that together.

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Speaker 1: You're assuming there are porta potties. I was, do you

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Speaker 1: have knowledge that there are not? Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: India is not known for its gleaming sophistication everywhere. There

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Speaker 3: are certainly amazing parts of India, but some of it's

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Speaker 3: a little bit primitive by American standard.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, come again. Four hundred million people, even if

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Speaker 1: they have porta potties, they could get a.

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Speaker 2: Little out of hand. I mean, if you've been to

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Speaker 2: a music festival, you know, go early in the day.

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Speaker 3: Oh oh, I don't even want to think about that.

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Speaker 1: It's so horrible.

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Speaker 3: I almost screamed at an innocent young woman last night.

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Speaker 3: I'm fairly proud of myself that I did not. I

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Speaker 3: came as close as you can come without actually erupting

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Speaker 3: like an insane volcano. I will describe the circumstances in a.

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Speaker 1: Moment, okay, fantastic. Among other things. On the way, Hey Michael,

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Speaker 1: have we played number four yet? The Greg guttfeldt Joe.

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Speaker 1: I know we haven't play it for me? Would thanks so?

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Speaker 6: Over the weekend, MSNBC canceled joy Read's TV show, and

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Speaker 6: according to the network, all of her wigs were quickly

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Speaker 1: What a numskull. So here's the situation.

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Speaker 3: We have insurance through our jobs, and as most insurance programs,

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Speaker 3: there are incentives. If you don't smoke, it costs less.

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Speaker 3: If you have a primary care physician, it costs less,

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Speaker 3: and you have to go to the primary care physician

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Speaker 3: and get a quote unquote physical or a preventative care

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Speaker 3: visit once a year. Now I have, as a guy

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Speaker 3: who's successfully dealing with high blood versus hypertension in HI

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Speaker 3: and stuff like that. I'm on the try not to

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Speaker 3: have a heart attack variety pack.

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Speaker 1: I call, you know, the.

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Speaker 3: Medications I take and I exercise, bab blah.

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Speaker 1: It's going great.

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Speaker 2: But so I see my doctor every six months and

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Speaker 2: do a rigorous, thorough preventing me from croaking visit, not

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Speaker 2: every year, every six months. The blood work, although we've

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Speaker 2: cut back on that to once a year because it's

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Speaker 2: always good. The blood work, PSA test even for prostate cancer,

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Speaker 2: blood pressure, just everything very thorough.

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Speaker 1: But here's the problem. Well, I will tell you this.

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Speaker 3: I checked and it said, no, you haven't had your

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Speaker 3: preventative care visits, so you're going to pay more for insurance.

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Speaker 3: And I said, no, I have. In fact, I do

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Speaker 3: it twice a year. Well, I got on the line because,

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Speaker 3: of course, the blanking website, you know what, I swore

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Speaker 3: I was gonna stay calm.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to stay calm during this discussion. I can

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Speaker 1: do it. So the effing.

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Speaker 3: Website, of course didn't. More so I got on the

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Speaker 3: phone t help us know where to.

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Speaker 2: Direct the anger so we can ride along with you.

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Speaker 2: Are we angry at the insurance company.

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Speaker 1: Or the like?

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Speaker 3: I often say to my wife when she says, who

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Speaker 3: is that guy while we're watching a movie that's part

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Speaker 3: of the script writing, we're meant to wonder.

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Speaker 2: I thought I would want to join in on the anger.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know how to direct it. Okay, there'll

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Speaker 2: be plenty jack plenty of anger. So anyway, so I

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Speaker 2: call and say, hey, it says I haven't had this

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Speaker 2: but I have. And the nice girl says, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you need to make an appointment for that. I said,

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Speaker 2: but I do that twice a year. It's incredibly thorough.

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Speaker 2: Blah blah blah, and she says, you know what probably happens.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that this is in your case, but

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Speaker 2: what happens is if you go for your physical, your

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Speaker 2: preventative care visit, whatever you want to call it, and

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Speaker 2: then at the end of it, you say to the

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Speaker 2: doctor and he says, is there anything else? And you say,

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Speaker 2: my knee hurts and he says, well, you should put

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Speaker 2: some ice on it. That will be coded as a

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Speaker 2: diagnosis and a treatment, so it's not coded as a

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Speaker 2: preventative care business. And I said, do you understand how

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Speaker 2: moronic that is?

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Speaker 1: What you have just explained to me.

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Speaker 2: That moment, that moment there, that's what I struggle with

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Speaker 2: the moment before you talked, is where when they say

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Speaker 2: something that is ludicrous and then stop right And that's

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Speaker 2: one who I.

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Speaker 1: Had explodes like you just stopped.

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Speaker 3: Like that makes sense and that bothers me and I

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Speaker 3: went zero to sixty man, zero to sixty.

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Speaker 1: I raised my voice.

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Speaker 2: I said, this is like the Soviet effing union. What

578
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Speaker 2: matters is not the medical care. What matters is checking

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Speaker 2: the box. So it doesn't matter if you do the

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Speaker 2: right thing or not, just check the box. You have

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Speaker 2: conceded in the conversation that I did the right things,

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Speaker 2: but because of the unchecked box, I've got to go

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Speaker 2: waste everybody's time and money to do it again.

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Speaker 3: And then I said, but I understand, you don't make

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Speaker 3: the rules. You've been more than helpful. Thank you, goodbye,

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Speaker 3: and I hung up.

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Speaker 1: And then she said, I wonder why I blood pressure.

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Speaker 2: But here, here is the fundamental issue here, the idiotic

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Speaker 2: flaw in the system is so well known and so

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Speaker 2: easy to understand.

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Speaker 1: Even the girl answer in the phone said, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know it happened.

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Speaker 2: Well, if it's that efing known, why has nobody fixed it?

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Speaker 2: How is there not some method by which I say, Well,

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Speaker 2: they may have coded it as put a little ice

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Speaker 2: on your knee if it hurts.

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Speaker 1: It was a fault.

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Speaker 2: You look at the you see the blood work, look

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Speaker 2: at it.

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Speaker 1: Look look do you see the report of.

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Speaker 2: The blood pressure which is rising as we speak. Well, sorry, no,

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Speaker 2: it was coded as this other thing. That's exactly what

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Speaker 2: kills socialism. Yeah, it becomes about the checking of the box,

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Speaker 2: not the doing of the act. So now what Thursday,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna walk into my doctor's office.

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Speaker 3: He's a terrific guy. Great doctor, I'm gonna say, doctor Jones.

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Speaker 1: Not as real Dad.

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Speaker 3: I said, if you want to walk in here, shake

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Speaker 3: my hand and leave.

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Speaker 1: That's fine.

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Speaker 3: I'm only here for one reason, and for God's sake,

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Speaker 3: don't ask me.

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Speaker 2: If there's anything you, as a physician, can help me with.

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Speaker 1: That's the one thing we must not do here. Wow.

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Speaker 3: The alternative being go to the front office. And I've

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Speaker 3: actually tried this and argue with the nice lady who

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Speaker 3: types into the computer and codes it for billing, and

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Speaker 3: explain to her, no, no, don't code it like that. Well,

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry because the doctor said, put ice on your knee,

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Speaker 3: So we have to.

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Speaker 1: I swear to God.

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Speaker 2: That moment, when you get the inex inexplicable explained nation

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Speaker 2: and I'm supposed to just accept it drives me crazy.

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Speaker 2: It's like when I was trying to rent the car,

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Speaker 2: but I got there and they didn't have the car. Well,

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Speaker 2: if you book online, sometimes the car goes before you

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Speaker 2: get here, and then you just stop and I'm supposed

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Speaker 2: to just say, okay, no, no, you've described to me

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Speaker 2: the idiotic problem. I've already described that I need you

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