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Speaker 1: Alson media.

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Speaker 2: So wat's this, y'all listen. I was waving a white

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Speaker 2: flag today. I was like, Monday, y'all got it, you

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Speaker 2: got it, it's yours. I'm tapping out. I usually recorded

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Speaker 2: politics on Mondays, so the first Monday of the month

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Speaker 2: is always after Club real Ones, which is what we

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Speaker 2: do every first Sunday Day.

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Speaker 3: Party is funnest thing ever.

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Speaker 2: If you live in California, you live in Long Beach,

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Speaker 2: not even in Long Beach, anywhere near Long Beach. I

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Speaker 2: don't care if you're driving up from San Diego. We

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Speaker 2: had to do it from Berlin and yesterday. Come to

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Speaker 2: the party. It's a super fun party, and then there's

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Speaker 2: an after party Rose Mellows next door. Anyway, you could

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Speaker 2: hear the rasp of my voice. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you can, but I could feel it from hosting Club

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Speaker 2: real Ones. You know, last night, I was so tired.

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Speaker 2: Today kind of wasn't on my game as far as

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Speaker 2: making sure everything technically was there.

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Speaker 3: Now, I had an opportunity to.

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Speaker 2: Interview two amazing people, the sister name April and this

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Speaker 2: brother named Nate.

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Speaker 3: It was like the dopest.

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Speaker 2: Nate's is in black AG, which is black agriculture. The

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Speaker 2: thought never crossed my mind. So stupid because of course

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Speaker 2: it is that black people work farms too. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm such a city boy, and it's so stupid because

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Speaker 2: our families come from there. You know, it's so dumb.

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Speaker 2: But I was super excited to bring this to hood politics.

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Speaker 2: Get all the mic set up, ask them, ask them

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Speaker 2: to record on their end, and forgive my ignorance. I

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Speaker 2: was like, Okay, this brother that pulls calves out of cows,

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Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know if he gonna have

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Speaker 2: the internet service to be technically savvy, like, so I

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Speaker 2: want to make sure just in case, because listen, listen,

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Speaker 2: here my prejudice, because I'm like, it's all kind of

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Speaker 2: shit he can do that. I can't that. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: don't get me wrong. I'm like, I don't play in

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Speaker 2: his field. Nah, fam I mean it's words he knows

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Speaker 2: I ain't never heard of.

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Speaker 3: It's survival.

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Speaker 2: Listen, when the coming of apocalypse happens, when the world

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Speaker 2: blows up, I'm gonna have no transferable skills. They gonna

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Speaker 2: have all the skills. They gonna keep us all alive.

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Speaker 2: So don't get me wrong, But in the world we

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Speaker 2: in now. I'm like, wow, you know, I know the Internet,

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Speaker 2: and I'm coming in here trying to make a case

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Speaker 2: for city folks to not treat rule people that way,

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Speaker 2: to be like, nah, they one of us.

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Speaker 3: That's our family, that's our future.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, we get to this whole interview and I

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Speaker 2: realized I wasn't recording. I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: we're y'all recording on y'all's in April professional reporter. She

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Speaker 2: was like, yeah, yeah, I got mine.

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Speaker 3: I was like.

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Speaker 2: Nate was like, I mean I think so, you know,

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Speaker 2: and then he hits the button and it goes recording

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Speaker 2: in progress. Oh my god, somehow or another. I don't

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Speaker 2: know how I did it. I don't know what happened.

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Speaker 2: But if you know how zoom works, if you're not

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Speaker 2: the person that started the meeting, you can't record it.

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Speaker 2: So I'm assuming the whole time, I'm assuming is recording.

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Speaker 2: Somehow or another. He became the runner of the meeting

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Speaker 2: and was able to record, but it felt like he

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Speaker 2: was only recording the last ten seconds of us.

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Speaker 3: Trying to figure out who was recording. I was like,

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Speaker 3: and then he was.

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Speaker 2: Like, I think I got it, but look I'm just

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Speaker 2: a country boy.

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Speaker 4: What do I know?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 2: I know enough to know about country boys. When they

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Speaker 2: say I'm just a country boy. That's just them saying like,

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Speaker 2: all right, you got a chief. That's the country way

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Speaker 2: of saying you got a chief. Because guess what. While

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Speaker 2: I was ready to give up and ask them to

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Speaker 2: record on Wednesday, that boy Nate sent the link. My

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Speaker 2: man had the whole show record it. Don't you ever

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Speaker 2: count them country boys out? So I now proudly present

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Speaker 2: to y'all the actual conversation we had.

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Speaker 3: Now, the audio is.

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Speaker 2: Not gonna be what it usually is because we don't

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Speaker 2: have separated tracks. We just got the one main audio

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Speaker 2: and Matt's gonna do his best for it.

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Speaker 3: But we did it.

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Speaker 2: Joe, this is my interview of people from the podcast

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Speaker 2: called The Heights, and we're gonna talk about how the

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Speaker 2: Hoods and the Woods is really one thing politics.

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Speaker 3: Y'all cool?

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Speaker 2: So, like I said, like, I'll do all the intros

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Speaker 2: and stuff like that later, but as far as like

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Speaker 2: what we're doing and all this good stuff, but right now,

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Speaker 2: I would much rather just let y'all intro show itself.

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Speaker 3: April, you want to go first and then without over

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Speaker 3: the night.

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Speaker 4: Sure.

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Speaker 1: I'm April Simpson. I'm a senior reporter covering racial equity

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Speaker 1: at the Center for Public Integrity, and I'm happy to

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Speaker 3: Nice and clean, you know what I'm said, all right?

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Speaker 5: They Yeah, I'm Nate Bradford, local rancher here in the

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Speaker 5: state of Oklahoma, kind of born and raised in the

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Speaker 5: state of Oklahoma. Calcaef Operation been in the ranching business

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Speaker 5: for over twenty years. Uh, you know, we're dealing with

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Speaker 5: some racing, I want to say, stuff dealing with the

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Speaker 5: USDA and.

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Speaker 4: The agriculture for black producers.

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Speaker 5: So there's been several things happening in the USDA that

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Speaker 5: black farms and ranchers hadn't had a chance to obtain

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Speaker 5: those things and to to you know, USDA being just

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Speaker 5: you know, us being discriminated or just say we was

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Speaker 5: for the terms maybe like they.

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Speaker 4: Don't you know, don't understand the culture.

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Speaker 5: Right, So if we don't look like dam, talk like dam,

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Speaker 5: maybe we lacked those opportunities just because it's like something

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Speaker 5: we had to prove in who we are.

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Speaker 4: And I'm just you know, it's just kind of time

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Speaker 4: out for stuff like that being stereotyped.

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Speaker 2: Right, I'm like you know, like diabolically just blown away,

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Speaker 2: fascinated and always flabberbackasted by just how invasive anti blackness

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Speaker 2: could be.

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Speaker 3: Because in my.

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Speaker 2: Mind, I'm like, of all the places that you would

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Speaker 2: think you would find some sort of camaraderie and unity,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like you know, there's only

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Speaker 2: so many ranchers, you know, I would imagine y'all's life

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Speaker 2: why would anyone find a way to discriminate it within

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Speaker 2: this such a tight knit and small community. Like I

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Speaker 2: which is predominantly like Latino Filipino. That's kind of the area.

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Speaker 3: I grew up in. But I feel like in any

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Speaker 3: hood us say there's like.

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Speaker 2: There's the there's the white family that just happened to

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Speaker 2: live in your hood, you know what I'm saying, And

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Speaker 2: like he just he with us, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: Like you know, nobody thinks anything about it.

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Speaker 3: It's just like I feel like I always say that

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Speaker 3: like black.

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Speaker 2: People are good and taking in straights like we we

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Speaker 2: take in strays we love you, you one of us.

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Speaker 2: Nah he with me, you know, with me, Like it's fine,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, And it's just so weird

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Speaker 2: to me how it's just like what we share is

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Speaker 2: this like experience of property, this experience of the hood,

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Speaker 2: like you running from the same bullets I'm running from.

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Speaker 2: Like why would I why would I treat you any different?

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Speaker 2: It's so I aught that to say to hear you

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Speaker 2: say that, as you said, cal and caf.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, yl carell calf.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get all that. I'm gonna get all the

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Speaker 2: burbige wrong. I apologize.

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Speaker 4: No, that's no big deal. That's what I'm here for.

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Speaker 3: Man, Okay, good good good.

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Speaker 2: Is like you would think as somebody who got to

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Speaker 2: go out there and like do what y'all gotta do,

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Speaker 2: there would be some sort of like.

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Speaker 3: Unity and experience.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like is that so that's

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Speaker 2: not even what you experienced or is that something that

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Speaker 2: like maybe I would y'all put the put the powers

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Speaker 2: that be.

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Speaker 5: So when we say unity, when we look at black

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Speaker 5: agriculture in this business, right, so my neighbors, I got

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Speaker 5: predominant white neighbors where I'm at, and you know, they're

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Speaker 5: they're real people.

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Speaker 4: I don't have.

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Speaker 5: The issue becomes when you started asking them for money

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Speaker 5: and funding. Right in the United States Department of Agriculture

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Speaker 5: pretty much it's like the Worldfare for all forming and

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Speaker 5: ranch in the United States of America. So their goal

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Speaker 5: is to make sure that we have food on the table,

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Speaker 5: and we don't rely on other countries to get our

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Speaker 5: food source. Right, so if we get in situations where

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Speaker 5: with lack of food on the shelf. So the government

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Speaker 5: was scrounging and making sure that the producers were staying

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Speaker 5: this money was getting handed out to to agriculture, they

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Speaker 5: realized that the black farmers was about to go out

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Speaker 5: already the end of the our deal. We already knew

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Speaker 4: But they finally got to Washington, d c. And they

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Speaker 4: was going to try to do some stuff what they

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Speaker 4: called debt relief.

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Speaker 5: So I had obtained early on in my beginning the

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Speaker 5: stage of ranching some government loan to get started. And

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Speaker 5: that's that's a whole nother kind of a story.

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Speaker 4: We can get in that as well.

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Speaker 5: It was hard, hard for me to get it, but

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Speaker 5: once I got in there, I was in the system, right,

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Speaker 5: So they denied us to receive debt relief during the pandemic,

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Speaker 5: you know at that time when the stock market literally

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Speaker 5: went down.

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Speaker 4: To nothing or process went negative.

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Speaker 5: I mean in that April was like Doomsday of twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty four, you know for everybody, and so our calves,

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Speaker 5: we was not getting nothing for our casts was running

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Speaker 5: and I was still having to feed these laps out right,

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Speaker 5: I'm feeding all these hundreds of animals with nowhere to

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Speaker 5: go with him.

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Speaker 4: And then we we.

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Speaker 5: Was trying to we was in the process of just

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Speaker 5: talk about a little bit about some more the difficult

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Speaker 5: we face. We was in the process of trying to

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Speaker 5: sell our beef. So here was America wanting beef. We

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Speaker 5: had beef on hand, thousands of pounds of beef, and

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Speaker 5: we could not find.

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Speaker 4: Processors to process our animals.

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Speaker 5: Right, So here I am been feeding these animals hundreds

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Speaker 5: of dollars a day, right and going through tons of

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Speaker 5: fee When I say ton of two thousand pounds of feet,

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Speaker 5: it's a lot of money that I put out there

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Speaker 5: and then literally had nowhere to go with my animal

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Speaker 5: because I couldn't get nobody to process my animal. But

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Speaker 5: the white producers that had the infrastructure, they was able

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Speaker 5: to take advantage and roll with their operations and keep

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Speaker 5: going and g line wrench which drenched that we have

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Speaker 5: here in Bola, Oklahoma just had to call it losses. So,

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Speaker 2: Oh you got to you know, and if you didn't,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm guilty of this.

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Speaker 2: But like it's so stupid as a city boy, You're like,

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Speaker 3: That's why you do that, you know, saying it out.

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Speaker 2: So April, I would love to hear how you came

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what were some of the like as you went

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Speaker 2: So like a lot of black people who were out

439
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 2: there had had small farms, you know what I'm saying,

440
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 2: and like and they you know, they wear cowboy boots

441
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. But just just realizing that, like God,

442
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 2: this is actually our roots. And I feel like me

443
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 2: never being in like like.

444
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 3: I was never in it.

445
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 2: I never I never lived in a gym Crow State.

446
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 2: I never you know what I'm saying, I've never So

447
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 2: because of that, I don't I don't have like the

448
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 2: same type of long sort of history of monuments of

449
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 2: experiences that are specifically about our black resilience because I didn't.

450
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 3: I didn't have to go through that, you know what

451
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

452
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 2: So like when I went to go I say all

453
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 2: that to say, when I went to go visit my

454
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 2: friend at Okay See, he was like, yeah, this We're

455
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 2: at the cigar Lounge and He's like, yeah, this was

456
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 2: one of the places where you know, we used to

457
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 2: meet when we were organizing for this. You know, this

458
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 2: was the first black home. You know this, you know

459
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 2: when doctor King came, He's right here, blah blah blah.

460
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 2: Like we just we just don't have a lot of

461
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 2: that in California because it's just wasn't a Jim Crow State.

462
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

463
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 2: So I feel like hearing your story and and like

464
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 2: you said, like what you experienced, I feel like I

465
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 2: wish all city folks would have a chance to come

466
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 2: experience that, because it's like it's a it's a piece

467
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 2: of your history that you may not even know you

468
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 2: miss it, you know what I mean. And uh, and

469
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 2: so that's that's Beaudle. I feel like I would have

470
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 2: had the same kind of like, oh my gosh, this

471
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 2: is way more familiar than I expected it to be,

472
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: you know.

473
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's why I think it's so important that

474
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,239
Speaker 5: we try to continue. You know, we fights hard as

475
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 5: we can to continue to stay in this business. I mean,

476
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 5: we got to look at when you look at agriculture business,

477
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 5: ranching business, how it's now become uh, every like everything

478
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 5: else corporately ran Right.

479
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 4: So it's if you ain't big, you going home right now. Right.

480
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 4: It's hard to be a small guy in this because

481
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 4: you've got to have buying power. You got to have.

482
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 5: Equity you don't have, you know, I sit on all

483
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 5: this equity and buying power that you know, Ranch has

484
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 5: been just been getting the handouts for decades.

485
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 4: So uh, this this time and we in right now it's.

486
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,479
Speaker 5: Really critical, uh a phase that we try to you know,

487
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 5: trying to page and trying to get you know, find innovative,

488
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 5: creative ways stay in business.

489
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 4: Man.

490
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 5: When we get one thing, I do like, you know,

491
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 5: I'm part of a deal where we we actually reach

492
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 5: out to some.

493
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 4: Of my backgro a little bit more about my background.

494
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 5: We took in some students mentored them from hbc you

495
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 5: here in the state of Oklahoma Lands University. A lot

496
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 5: of our HBCU universities are has agriculture heavily agricultural background, right,

497
00:25:55,280 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 5: but that's probably the most starving area, and all of them.

498
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 4: The HPC used because there are.

499
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 5: A lack of knowledge teachers from our culture in there. Right,

500
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 5: So we've seen that. We started bringing teaching students you know,

501
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 5: what's a booll, what's a head for? You know, cal

502
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 5: just in dealing with the injection of medications and stuff

503
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 5: like that to the animals to try to you know,

504
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 5: educate them because we wereize, hey, they need to be

505
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 5: in the workforce, they need to know stuff. Ain't but

506
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 5: a few of us I heard, right, less than half

507
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 5: a percent of us in agriculture out of you know,

508
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 5: out the whole world. That's that's pretty bad, right, And

509
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 5: and all of them ain't making no money. This industry

510
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 5: is no more than if you're doing really good, if

511
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 5: you're doing fifteen percent returns.

512
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 4: On your investment in this business.

513
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:50,239
Speaker 3: I'm not.

514
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm still working a job and I'm trying

515
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 5: to get to or I can at least get to

516
00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 5: that part. And right now, when inflation come in, they

517
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 5: you know a lot of my stuff, I deal with

518
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 5: thirty percent and more inflation. So we experienced another setback,

519
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,719
Speaker 5: and we had an opportunity to maybe to get ahead

520
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 5: or ain't gonna get ahead, but to be in the game.

521
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 5: We lost out due the USDA government not wanting us

522
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 5: to assist US black forms and ranchers.

523
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 2: So it sounds like even in just the verbiage you

524
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 2: was using that like like you are despite the business,

525
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 2: you're a businessman like and the things that you've had

526
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: to just talk about inflation, you know, your rois, you

527
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying and all those things. So it's

528
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 2: like it's it's interesting to me to hear that, Like, look, man,

529
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 2: I don't care what the field is. Business is business,

530
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 2: and you have to know what you're talking about you know,

531
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: and I'm curious about two things. The first one is

532
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 2: a little more a little more in depth, and then

533
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: the second ones just would be kind of fun. I

534
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 2: think the first thing would be, like, can you think

535
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 2: of any sort of moments where you were in a

536
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 2: situation where maybe the type of interactions that you were

537
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 2: having led you to believe that the people or persons

538
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: or the institution you were sitting across the table from

539
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: thought you didn't know what you were talking about, right,

540
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 2: and uh, but you knew you knew what you was

541
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 2: talking about. You know what I'm saying, And maybe you

542
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 2: know obviously I'm leading into us towards what we do,

543
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 2: which is like using what you already know to help

544
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: you understand what you think you don't know you know

545
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So, which is like you know, like

546
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 2: you said, you grew up agriculture. You know you're doing this,

547
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: but it's like, fam, I got I have another job.

548
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,959
Speaker 2: Both my both my kids, both my sons are in college.

549
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 2: Like I know what I'm talking about, you know what

550
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 2: I'm saying, So like can you can you can you

551
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: can you recall any of those moments? You know, even

552
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 2: if they're paying if they're paying points, don't worry about it.

553
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 2: But like if it's like you know what I mean,

554
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: if you could grow up, we'll call moments where you

555
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 2: had to use the knowledge that you've acquired here, you

556
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.

557
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:06,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, So, and I'm just really back ten ten years

558
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 5: maybe fifteen years ago.

559
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 4: In my in the beginning, I went just and were

560
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 4: talking about getting money here. So my wife.

561
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 5: They had some land that we wanted to inquire. It's

562
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 5: forty acres, and I went to the bank and she

563
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 5: shared that properly with us, with us, with the siblings.

564
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 4: Right.

565
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 5: So I go to the bank and say, hey, I

566
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 5: want to buy this forty acres and mine is for

567
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 5: the extras for twelve thousand dollars.

568
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 4: Man, all right, well yeah yeah, real talk, real talk.

569
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Okay, all right, okay, go ahead.

570
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 5: So I'm here trying to convince a banker that's been

571
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 5: been loaning me money to buy cutlass.

572
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 4: Is right.

573
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 5: I'm walking at the dealership, I'm buying trade ins, I'm

574
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 5: flipping cars, but I'm buying them for you know, five

575
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 5: eight hundred.

576
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 4: Dollars, twelve hundred dollars.

577
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I'm still wrenching, right, I'm still trying to dig,

578
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 5: trying to get into that field.

579
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 4: But he denies me and.

580
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 5: Tells me that he felt like I had too much,

581
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 5: you know, on my plate pretty much. He didn't have

582
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 5: the confidence in me. Man, Yeah, you know what I mean.

583
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 5: But look at me now. I'm still in the game.

584
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 5: But it's it's that's that's what.

585
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 4: You're dealing with, you when you get stereotyped. I heard

586
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 4: people think that you don't know, you know what you're doing,

587
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 4: what you're talking about, But it's just.

588
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 5: It is so far from the truth, man. And you

589
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 5: know what we like in is opportunity. Give me, give

590
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 5: me the ball, you to give what I'm saying.

591
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 4: Yes, I'll show you what to do with it.

592
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 5: And that's one in agriculture, we hadn't had the opportunity.

593
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 5: We don't got so far down the road now, you

594
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 5: know that. It's it's just sometimes it feels like it's impossible,

595
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 5: you know.

596
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 4: But I'm not gonna give up. I'm gonna keep doing

597
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 4: what I do.

598
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 5: And I got a family of loves and supports me

599
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 5: on all measures, and God's with me, So who's gonna

600
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 5: be against me?

601
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

602
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 3: Bruh.

603
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 2: I mean when I tell you, like when I had to,

604
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 2: I've lived a few lives. When I used to teach

605
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: high school. Before I could teach high school in California,

606
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: you had to like pass this the credentially, you know whatever.

607
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: I taught social science and one of the one of

608
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 2: the one of the state tests was on economics and

609
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 2: I failed that much three times.

610
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 3: And it wasn't because I didn't know what I was

611
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 3: talking about.

612
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 2: I just didn't know how to tell you that, you

613
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, like, because to me, I was like,

614
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: it's pretty simple. You know, you don't spend money you

615
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 2: ain't got Like that's that's easy. You know what I'm saying,

616
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 2: Like you know, like you know or like, well, if

617
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna borrow this, I know it costs, it costs,

618
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 2: it costs money. You have to you're selling me alone,

619
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 2: so I know, well, how much does your loan cost?

620
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 4: Okay?

621
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: This?

622
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

623
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: And I'm thinking, if I'm walking in in.

624
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 3: My head, its logical to me the same thing you said.

625
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: I'm walking into this bank and I'm like, bro, you

626
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 2: see everything I got going against me, and I'm still okay, like,

627
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: don't you think I got the hustle to I done

628
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: figured it out already, you know what I'm saying, Like

629
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 2: to get to that point. You know what I'm saying,

630
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: Like despite like I ain't got no help. You know,

631
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 2: everybody else come here, got help. I'm still okay, you

632
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like I still got to hoop

633
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 2: over my head. Don't you think that I I'm gonna

634
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: figure out how to pay you back? Like come on, fab,

635
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 2: you know that's whatd have made sense to me, you know,

636
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 2: but like you said, it's just like like if you

637
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 2: just give me the ball, like if we like clearly

638
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 2: we've been surviving this loan, so like don't you think

639
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 2: you think what else do I need to prove to you?

640
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 4: You know? Yeah?

641
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 5: It was you deal though, because my wife had a

642
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 5: part of it, so he only needed to lend me

643
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 5: eighty percent of the money, right, so he should have

644
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 5: been covered with equity. And it's like, dang, the worst

645
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 5: thing happened, you donna have to use don't take it,

646
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 5: but I know that wasn't gonna happen.

647
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you it's and it's crazy to me because

648
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 2: it's like it sounded like to me, like you would

649
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 2: have to tell him that where You're like, well, bro,

650
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: I mean she already owned part of the land. Like

651
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: why do I need to tell you this? Like you're

652
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 2: the you're the bank. Why do I got to tell you?

653
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 3: Yeah? So then okay, So then my last question, well,

654
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 3: my last question to you, Nate, and then I got

655
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 3: one more questions for April.

656
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 2: My last question for you, Nat is like, okay, city boy,

657
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 2: you know we land out at HBC. You know land

658
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 2: at HBCU see the Agriculture Department, And I'm probably like skip,

659
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like, make a case for me,

660
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: make a case for city boys, black city boys to

661
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 2: be like, yo, this is part of the culture. This

662
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: is part of the revolution. May I interest you in

663
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 2: a life of ranching? Like make a case for us.

664
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 5: You know, agriculture is one when you look at the

665
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 5: base of it, you're gonna you're gonna better provide food

666
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 5: and water and resources.

667
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 4: Everything you're dealing with and walking around and you look

668
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 4: in the city is dealing with ad.

669
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 5: So we didn't you know you can buy property out

670
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 5: here and get royalties for water or damn. It's just

671
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 5: and it's been a basis for in my opinion, for

672
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 5: people who want to have money or got money to

673
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 5: own the kind of real estate that's out here. Nobody's

674
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 5: making no more land. It ain't no more it's on

675
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 5: so much of it. And you know, I encourage you

676
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 5: to invest and buy you some land.

677
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 4: Apartments and stuff and homes.

678
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 5: Are good, but typically in about twenty five years they'd

679
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 5: depreciate and they go the other way. But when you

680
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 5: talk about you buy good land, it don't do nothing

681
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 5: but go up. People have been hiding money in land

682
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 5: for decades. That's that's that's what they do. I least

683
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 5: land out here from people in California that they been

684
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 5: having in their family. And if and if oil gets

685
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 5: struck on that deal, they just don't get a check.

686
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 4: But that's kind of money that can be out here

687
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 4: if you're able to buy land.

688
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 5: Unfortunately, what's happening on our ends, you know, is that

689
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 5: we can't afford to purchase this land anymore because it's

690
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 5: not got that expensive. But if you're living in the city,

691
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 5: and especially for the young men out that want to

692
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 5: become men, you know, I put I put.

693
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 4: My boys up against a lot of you city boys.

694
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna be just.

695
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 3: Straight up you right now.

696
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 4: I'm just telling how it is. I used to.

697
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 5: I'm from the country people that we went to the

698
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 5: city and when we threw them things, let me tell you,

699
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 5: when they.

700
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 4: Was connecting, they felt that pressure. I'm just telling you,

701
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 4: so when you want a man up, this is a

702
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 4: good way to make them.

703
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 5: Men come in and then women. A good woman can

704
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 5: appreciate a good man. I'm just telling you.

705
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 3: Hey, they out here, listen. I tell you what, y'all

706
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 3: are different kind of strong.

707
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 4: That's real.

708
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 2: That's a different kind of strong because, like I mean it,

709
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, Like you know, my daddy and them,

710
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 2: my family, like they had a Like I said, I

711
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 2: grew up in a Latino community. So like you don't

712
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 2: even think about the Mexican men like you work. I'm

713
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: saying they had me working, you feel me. But when

714
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 2: it comes to that like that endurance, I'm like, oh, nah, bro,

715
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: like I need to hit the porch. He like, brus Bro,

716
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 2: it's a coffee break, bro, Like what you're talking about.

717
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 3: Man, we're not even done yet. And I'm like, maam,

718
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 3: I'm done.

719
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 4: You know. Yeah.

720
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 5: The community is good, man, I mean, the lifestyle is

721
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 5: just I mean, it's just actually, you know, everybody take

722
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 5: care of one another. You know, in this business, we

723
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 5: lost our attractor, piece of equipment, and man, you know,

724
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 5: some brothers came together, we hooked up and they helped

725
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 5: me out and stuff. So yeah, and that's you know,

726
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 5: that's one thing I just think about being out here,

727
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 5: just being able to have those resources and you know,

728
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 5: good people and you know what I'm saying, take care

729
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 5: of one another.

730
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 3: That's beautiful.

731
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: Definitely like something happened to me recently, you know, in

732
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 2: just stage of life whatever it is, where it was

733
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 2: just like I mean, I my whole life. Man, I

734
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 2: hate camping. I don't like I don't like outside. I

735
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 2: don't like cold, I don't like hot.

736
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 3: Yo said, like like none of it.

737
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 2: But like recently, like you know, you get a little older,

738
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, and like and you know,

739
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: friends who kind of figured it out, you know what

740
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 2: I'm saying that like they got a little you know,

741
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 2: little cabins out in Wyoming and this and this, like Yo,

742
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 2: come out you know now we fishing with them and

743
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, this.

744
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 3: Is it's a lot of funner than I thought it

745
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 3: would be.

746
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, and just being like, hey,

747
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 2: so tell them about that horse, you know what I'm saying, Like, hey,

748
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 2: so what do you gotta do? You know what I mean,

749
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 2: and just like getting a little more curious about it

750
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 2: and the idea of like, yeah, like that's kind of nice.

751
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: It's kind of nice, like you no knowing your neighbors

752
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 2: and being like no, not about like no, no guns

753
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: pointed at you.

754
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, you.

755
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 2: Know, that's kind of nice, you know, so, so yeah, man,

756
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 2: I think that's man. I appreciate that. Man, thank you

757
00:38:34,840 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: so much. And in April, like so, I'm not sure

758
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 2: if the season will be out by the time this drops,

759
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: but like, if you were to give me like three

760
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 2: takeaways that you would hope inner city kids like myself

761
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: and it's sort of the people we talked to that

762
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 2: they will received from from from this season. What would

763
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: those three things be?

764
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: Three takeaways for city folks. That's a good question. I

765
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: think I hadn't thought about it in that in that

766
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: kind of context. Maybe I guess if the opportunity presents

767
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: itself to try to get out in the country, right,

768
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: like if you have relatives, if you just have some

769
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,720
Speaker 1: kind of connection, you can get out on the land

770
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: with folks, like do some work. Try to just try

771
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: to do that because it'll it'll open up your eyes.

772
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: It's opened up my eyes every time I've had the

773
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: opportunity to do that. And I feel like we're always

774
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: a little we can be a little disconnected right from

775
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: that life from folks who are living that life, and

776
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: it's always important to build build stronger connections and just

777
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: to try to learn more about it.

778
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 4: That's all.

779
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: If you can't make if you can't physically go there,

780
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: then you know, if you can on your own time,

781
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 1: just try to learn more.

782
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: What are ways that we can help, like lobby advocate,

783
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 2: you know, for just a particular cause that we're talking now,

784
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 2: as far as like the USDA and things like that.

785
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 3: What are ways we can help?

786
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: I think education. I think education is one just learning

787
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: more about the history of black farmers in the US.

788
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: There's a book by Daniel called This Possession that focuses

789
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 1: more on like civil rights history and black farmers and USDA.

790
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 4: But that's really good.

791
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: The Environmental Working Group has a page that has like

792
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: documents that are important to understanding the history around black

793
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: farmers and USDA. So I mean those are like, you know,

794
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: primary source documents, but they're still it's nice to just

795
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: go in there and see. Yeah, those would be some

796
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: places I would start. Do you mind if I just

797
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: add some context to something they said earlier?

798
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, go for it, not go ahead? Okay?

799
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: With the debt relief program that we were talking about,

800
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: it it was a four billion dollar program. It was

801
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: in the American Rescue Plan Act, which was like a

802
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: big COVID relief bill, right, yeah, And it was an

803
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,720
Speaker 1: attempt to try to do something for farmers of color,

804
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: and a lot of that organizing came from initially came

805
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: from black farmers. You could eat and say, like the

806
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: origins of that are in the Justice for Black Farmers Bill, Okay,

807
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: But then lawsuits started popping up across the country from

808
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: white farmers who said it was discriminating against them, and

809
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: a federal jug Jim Florida, blocked implementation of that, so

810
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 1: USDA could not do anything about that, right, Their hands

811
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 1: were tied. They couldn't move forward on that. And then

812
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: it was because of that they ended up sort of

813
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: changing things and in another big bill called the Inflation

814
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: Reduction Act, there was a new color blind program that

815
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: is essentially a form of deck relief. So I just

816
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: think that's important to understand it.

817
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that helps, like to just really understand what was happening,

818
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, and not thank you for

819
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: that's that's good.

820
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 3: And then another like really foolish question to end on

821
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 3: is like.

822
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: Is there ways if I walk into a store or

823
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 2: to know that this beef came from a black farm

824
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: so I can buy that one certain ways to know that.

825
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: I would think I might have to defer to on this.

826
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: I would think just look, you look at the label

827
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: and if you know who those folks are, that might

828
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: be the only way to know.

829
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there's no.

830
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 5: When I say that, that requires what we talked about

831
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 5: early infrastructure. So we have no you know, we ain't

832
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 5: got no cotton gen right, we picked ahead of Cotton Jean's.

833
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 5: We ain't got no meat packing processing. We we we

834
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 5: just in this business right now currently whatever the market

835
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 5: is doing that day, that's what we're doing, right and

836
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 5: that's what all me and my family been trying to

837
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 5: get away from. We've been selling our own beef off

838
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 5: the ranch g Lin Ranch dot com.

839
00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 4: Check it out and we you know it's but we

840
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 4: haven't been able to take off. I mean we have to.

841
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 5: We wanted to do our own processing, and unfortunately we

842
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 5: had had you know, didn't have the money and resources

843
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 5: to do that. Uh They've been millions or billions dollars

844
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 5: in grants in the USDA had but unfortunately, I have

845
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 5: not heard of one black producer had you know, got

846
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 5: any new infrastructure. So that's what we're behind on, is infrastructure.

847
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 5: Infrastructure takes a lot of times. You already got to

848
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 5: be in business to to get the next McDonald's, right,

849
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 5: so you know, you just don't a lot of times

850
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 5: to just come out of nowhere unless somebody.

851
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 4: Hit the lottery.

852
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 5: So everything I got is from the ground up, and

853
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 5: we're just able to do that and just not going

854
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 5: to currently you know, be able to do it and

855
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 5: compete with free people who getting free money.

856
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 2: So you like the you're like the indie artists of agriculture.

857
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 2: Got it. It's probably better product, but you ain't got

858
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: no distro. Okay, So we gotta we gotta we gotta

859
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 2: go go get it, get go, get it out of

860
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 2: your trunk.

861
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, yeah.

862
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:13,479
Speaker 3: I mean I understand now yeah, yeah, yeah, I gotta

863
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 3: go to band camp, not Spotify, got it?

864
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, straight up?

865
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 5: I mean you know, it's just because there's a lot

866
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 5: of stipulations to get to.

867
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 3: That form, right yeah.

868
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 2: Nah. As you was talking, it was kind of like

869
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 2: all kind of making sense to me, like just even

870
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 2: the I mean again, because it's it's the same like

871
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 2: when you know, you tell people you do music, it's like,

872
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: oh have I have I heard you on the radio,

873
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 2: and you're like, well, uh well probably not. You know, yeah,

874
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 2: you know, so you really do music. It's like, well, okay,

875
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: so this is this thing called the strip distribution, and

876
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 2: then you know, say, you gotta walk through this whole

877
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 2: thing to be like, man, maybe at twelve o'clock on

878
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 2: Saturday night, you know, on Sunday morning at one in

879
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 2: the morning, and you know, toad Suck Arkansas, this DJ

880
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 2: decided to play this song.

881
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 3: You say, like, yeah, you know, that's.

882
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 5: Exactly how it is for us, and you know, you

883
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 5: just everybody looking at you.

884
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 4: You the new guy. Right.

885
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 5: So I'm black. I walk into and today business it's like,

886
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 5: well who is you?

887
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 4: You know?

888
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 5: You know, well, you know I've got cattle her for

889
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 5: sale today. Yeah, I'm heard of. You know, I'm heard of.

890
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 5: You know, I'm just saying that just how it is.

891
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna show you the work, like you know what

892
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like look at the work, like the work

893
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: is right, Like I would understand what else you need?

894
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 3: The work is right.

895
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we just got a long way to go. Man.

896
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 5: We just need you know, my opinion needs people to

897
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 5: try to find ways to support and and then you.

898
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 4: Know, try to.

899
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 5: Try to make a word into everybody and the situation

900
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 5: that we're facing that her you know, we don't you know,

901
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 5: we're looking at being in extinct in this bitch. We

902
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 5: don't have to be that way. It's three hundred and

903
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 5: fifty million people in the United States right were less

904
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 5: than a half a percent of all foods being That's

905
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 5: a lot of eating.

906
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 4: Going on every day. And how can we just be

907
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 4: you know, not making nothing.

908
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 5: And I know our people, so my my, my next

909
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 5: phase is to try to connect with you know, our

910
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 5: people and try to raise up products, good beef and

911
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 5: trade with people that want to trade and do business

912
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 5: for me and help me get off the ground.

913
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

914
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 5: I'm working for a good cause and you know, just

915
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 5: suppose to support man, somebody just want to support us. Yeah,

916
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 5: but you know, if we want at a little bit

917
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 5: more about us, go on TikTok.

918
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 4: G Lion Ranch, Yeah, g Lion Ranch. Check that out.

919
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, send me all that. We've put all that in

920
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 2: the show notes, all that. Blast this thing out. Well,

921
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you, thank you, Thank you so much

922
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 2: for your time for being a part of this.

923
00:47:58,880 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 4: Thank you.

924
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 2: Uh, you're gonna told us the g Line Ranch And

925
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: what's the name of the pot again, so we could

926
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 2: let everybody know.

927
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: It's called the Heist and it's by the Center for

928
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: Public Integrity, Center for Public Integrity.

929
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 3: You you like working there? Yeah, of course. Well I

930
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 3: don't know the little racist just no, that's dope. Well,

931
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 3: thank you again, y'all. Man, I super appreciate y'all time.

932
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 2: Manciating, yeah, man, we're gonna we're gonna blast this out.

933
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 3: We're gonna get you, right, y'all, y'all need to eat

934
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 3: black people meat.

935
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 4: Listen, come see me Cali all right.

936
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 3: We will go see you man, all right.

937
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 5: M yo yo.

938
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: This thing right here was recorded by ME Propaganda and

939
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 2: East Lows, boil Heights, Los Angeles, California. This thing was mixed, edited, mastered,

940
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 2: and school by the one and the only Matt Awsowski.

941
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 3: Y'all check out this fool's music. I mean it's incredible.

942
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:11,439
Speaker 2: Executive produced by Sophie Lichterman for Cool Zone Media. Man,

943
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: and thank you for everybody who continue to tap in

944
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 2: with us. Make sure you leaving reviews and five star

945
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 2: ratings and sharing it with the hommies so we could

946
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 2: get this thing pushed up in the algorithm and listen.

947
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 2: I just want to remind you these people is not

948
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: smarter than you. If you understand city living, you understand politics,

949
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 2: We'll see you next week.