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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 1: Edo State is that? Whoo whoo and no Dan and

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Speaker 1: Tie Dan Rubinstein, welcome back. Happy eleven eleven. My friend,

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Speaker 2: That's a lyric in something Corporate's constantine, the saddest and

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Speaker 2: nineteenth year on this beautiful planet. I didn't plan on

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Speaker 2: starting the show talking about that, but here we are, Ty,

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Speaker 2: I'm great. It's post week eleven heading into week twelve.

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Speaker 2: I know you're like itching to talk Delaware football and

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Speaker 2: they're crazy ending from Saturday? What else do we have

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Speaker 2: But this is all a roundabout way of me saying

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Speaker 3: Happy Veterans Day to all out there who's served. We

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Speaker 2: What about Govember Colin, it's Diego Pavia's time. No, that's

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Speaker 2: Where are we going?

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Speaker 1: Well, we can't start with lingering thoughts.

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Speaker 3: dam lingering thoughts from the week that was in Week eleven.

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Speaker 2: It was a harrowing experience because I had the Nebraska

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Speaker 2: My thought on that game specifically was really good job

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Speaker 2: I think I undershot bear Bachmeier's weight by according to

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Speaker 3: Listen, I didn't want to be the bearer of bad

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Speaker 2: I fully disagree with you on this. I stand by

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Speaker 3: No, you handled yourself well, And I think I pushed

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Speaker 3: But I was not even confident enough in my own

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Speaker 2: Literally the BYU fans were like acting as if he

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Speaker 2: So okay, hand up my fault on that one.

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Speaker 2: the fact that the reference he's the third string Missoo quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Well, he was a third string Missoo quarterback.

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying is like on that roster fall camp wise, obviously,

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Speaker 3: We see what happens now, Like the nod doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw the end of that game.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the game, yeah, so.

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Speaker 2: It's two touchdowns and under a minute for Delaware. I

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Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know if I could have handled Gary

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Speaker 1: How can you not love college football? I do not

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Speaker 3: This is why we do this is why we're still

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Speaker 3: That game is at home. They've also got their rivalry

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Speaker 3: want to commit to anything in the ACC because it's

438
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Speaker 3: not ironclad, by the way that if Duke wins out,

439
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Speaker 3: they're gonna find their way into this title thing. It's

440
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Speaker 3: there's a lot that could still happen, okay, and Pitt

441
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Speaker 3: is one of those. So Pitt has Georgia Tech next week.

442
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 3: Pitt has Miami to close out its season. The Georgia

443
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 3: Tech game is on the road, the Miami game is

444
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Speaker 3: at home. If Pitt were to knock off both of

445
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Speaker 3: those teams, Pitt would find its way into the ACC

446
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Speaker 3: title game.

447
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the pro is a really nice play.

448
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Speaker 3: The preseason prophecy from yours truly would come true and

449
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 3: Pitt would find its way into that game, though not

450
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Speaker 3: against Clemson as I thought initially. There's still a lot

451
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Speaker 3: that could go on in the ACC. I don't mean

452
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 3: to give the impression that it's ironclad Duke winning out

453
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 3: They're going to be in this thing, but I would

454
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Speaker 3: say right now Pitt is likely the underdog in those games,

455
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Speaker 3: both against Georgia Tech and Miami, which is why I'm

456
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Speaker 3: not quite taking.

457
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Speaker 1: That to the bank.

458
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Speaker 3: But just bear in mind, there's a lot that could

459
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Speaker 3: still go on here that could put a bunch of

460
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Speaker 3: teams into that ACC title game.

461
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Speaker 2: Good for us with our like preseason ACC crushes mine

462
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Speaker 2: with Duke and yours with Pitt. Thus far, we couldn't

463
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Speaker 2: anticipate exactly that this was going to be a Mason.

464
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Speaker 2: Heinschel Year and Duke loses an embarrassing fashion to Tulane

465
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Speaker 2: and Illinois and Yukon, but is still very much alive

466
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Speaker 2: in the couple weeks before Thanksgiving. Quick fact check here,

467
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Speaker 2: because when I make a pop culture reference without knowing

468
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Speaker 2: anything about out this person in pop culture, obviously.

469
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Speaker 1: I'm a big fujis person. Obviously.

470
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Speaker 2: Praz was recently found guilty of ten criminal counts in

471
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Speaker 2: the US District Court for the District of Columbia. He's

472
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Speaker 2: facing up to twenty years in prison, but is currently

473
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Speaker 2: free on bond pending appeals. And this is all involving

474
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Speaker 2: the one Malaysia Development burhads scandal in trying to back

475
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Speaker 2: channel extradition of Chinese nationals.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I do.

477
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Speaker 2: See the full picture of Praz via a very cursory

478
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Speaker 2: search on Wikipedia. I just want people to know that

479
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Speaker 2: I'm not blindly going into it. Now, Okay, that's all.

480
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Speaker 2: Where are were going from here?

481
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Speaker 3: Well, we're now extortion adjacent or whatever on this show,

482
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Speaker 3: Welcome back one and all.

483
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Speaker 1: Let's reveal the.

484
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Speaker 3: Response is let's reveal the results. That's the word I'm

485
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Speaker 3: looking for of the Verballer top twelve. It doesn't look

486
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Speaker 3: all that different from the latest AP and coaches polls

487
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Speaker 3: that are out there. We're recording this midday Monday, before

488
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 3: the CFP rankings. This is part of why we're not

489
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Speaker 3: going to talk through, at least to the same extent,

490
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Speaker 3: the polls the way we would normally. We'll save a

491
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Speaker 3: little bit of that for the Thursday episode when we

492
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Speaker 3: have brackets to respond to and we have actual committee

493
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Speaker 3: result committee rankings and results to respond to.

494
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Speaker 1: But here's what it looks like in our world.

495
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Speaker 3: Ohio State, Indiana still won two, Texas A and M,

496
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Speaker 3: and Alabama is still three to four. We've got Georgia

497
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Speaker 3: at five, we got Texas Tech moving up to number six.

498
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Speaker 3: We've got Ole Miss at seven, Oregon at eight, Notre

499
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Speaker 3: Dame at nine, and then to round out the top twelve,

500
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Speaker 3: we've got Texas, Georgia Tech, and Oklahoma BYU fell pretty far.

501
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Speaker 3: They're down at thirteen, Vanderbilt knocking on the door at fourteen,

502
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Speaker 3: and then we've got Utah at fifteen, and USC at

503
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Speaker 3: number sixteen. In case you're interested in the first four out, Dan, yes,

504
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Speaker 3: we don't need to respond. I think for like fifteen

505
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Speaker 3: minutes about this. But I think we should give at

506
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Speaker 3: least some initial reaction to what the verballer hood is

507
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Speaker 3: telling us.

508
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Speaker 1: Here.

509
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Speaker 3: What I am getting from this, people felt pretty good

510
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Speaker 3: about what they saw from Texas Tech.

511
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Speaker 1: Yeah, all they have to see, think so, I think

512
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Speaker 1: deservedly so.

513
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they beat a three hundred and fifty five pound

514
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Speaker 2: quarterback into submission.

515
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's getting bigger by the second, like Tommy Castellanos

516
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 3: did last year.

517
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, crazy, Yeah, he's like a kid from Willy

518
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Speaker 2: Wonka getting blown up.

519
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Speaker 1: Violet bouregard. Is that who got big? I don't know. Okay,

520
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: come on time, I don't know. Isn't she turning violet

521
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Speaker 1: and huge? Yeah? Continue?

522
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Speaker 3: Notre Dame all the way up to nine now in

523
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Speaker 3: this poll, just a slow and steady creep. I know

524
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Speaker 3: you've got a question about schedules. Well, I don't want

525
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Speaker 3: to give away the game too much.

526
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Speaker 1: We'll talk. No, that's fine in a little bit. But

527
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame up at nine.

528
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Speaker 3: Texas now creeping into the top ten in advance of

529
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Speaker 3: their big game this week, which we will talk about

530
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Speaker 3: momentarily with Georgio mentioned earlier that there's a pretty strong

531
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Speaker 3: likelihood that the ACC champion will not be ranked in

532
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Speaker 3: the top twelve, not according to the ball or top

533
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 3: twelve pole though, because right now Georgia Tech is at eleven,

534
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Speaker 3: Oklahoma at twelve is a choice. One thing that I

535
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Speaker 3: saw echoed throughout the college football ether, especially if you

536
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Speaker 3: are as online as you and I are, seems like

537
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Speaker 3: it's hard to rank the top twelve. Seems like it's

538
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Speaker 3: hard once you get outside that top like eight, it

539
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 3: gets real difficult. And I think it was maybe Stu

540
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Speaker 3: Mandel maybe, so I don't know who it was, but

541
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Speaker 3: somebody was online talking about how, you know, amid this

542
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Speaker 3: world that we live in now, where there's this constant

543
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Speaker 3: threat of the Big ten or the SEC or whoever

544
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Speaker 3: trying to expand the playoff up to twenty teams, it

545
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 3: would be a real question of who you would even rank,

546
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Speaker 3: who'd even want to put in a twenty team field.

547
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Speaker 3: Given where we're at this year, it feels like we've

548
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Speaker 3: got a very clear stratification and like top A, and

549
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 3: then beyond that, it's sort of anyone's guess as to

550
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,439
Speaker 3: who you're putting where agree?

551
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Speaker 1: Can I can I ask you a question about numbers two?

552
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Speaker 1: And three. Yeah, so you're talking about Indiana and Texas

553
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Speaker 1: A and M.

554
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Speaker 2: Is there not a like kind of a not easy case,

555
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 2: but a clean case to put Texas A and M

556
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 2: over Indiana after this past weekend. If we believe in

557
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 2: limber poles, so A and M has a stronger they

558
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 2: schedule stronger than non conference Indiana has. Nobody there. I

559
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 2: A and M has been taking care of business in

560
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 2: a way similar. All they do is get coaches fired

561
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 2: or play teams with fired coaches. I guess sure Texas

562
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 2: A and M they played Miszoo without their starting quarterback

563
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 2: or as we talked about, without their two top quarterbacks.

564
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Speaker 1: But everybody's played Miszoo without Sam Horn this year.

565
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Speaker 2: And Indiana needs every second and every inch of regulation

566
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Speaker 2: to beat a big ten winless Penn State. Now there's

567
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Speaker 2: context why Penn State is when lists who also is

568
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 2: playing without their quarterback. But you kind of are what

569
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 2: your record is at a certain point in Penn State.

570
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 2: It's a team that couldn't quite get over Northwestern and UCLA.

571
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: Right, So.

572
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't hate having and rewarding the scheduling of Notre

573
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 2: Dame and beating Notre Dame on the road, and now

574
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Speaker 2: Indiana has arguably a better win beating Oregon on the road.

575
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Speaker 2: Of course, nobody's arguing against Indiana's excellence, but if we

576
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Speaker 2: are advocates for a limberpole here, I wouldn't hate A

577
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Speaker 2: and M.

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Speaker 1: A two, would you? I put A and M at

579
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Speaker 1: two in my ballot? Okay, I did have A and

580
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Speaker 1: M at two, and I struggled with that.

581
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Speaker 3: In part because I was doing it at three thirty

582
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 3: am Eastern time after we did our show, certainly, but

583
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Speaker 3: I wanted to try and vote while the reactions were

584
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 3: still fresh.

585
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Speaker 1: I just feel like A and M.

586
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 3: What they have done in the sec these last couple

587
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 3: of weeks has been damn impressive. I mean they have

588
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 3: gone on the road, they mopped up on LSU. LSU

589
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 3: might not be what we thought preseason. That's a tough

590
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 3: place to go and win at night Tiger Stadium. They

591
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 3: got Brian Kelly fired right Missoo. Yes, it was with

592
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,959
Speaker 3: the backup quarterback, but Miszoo is still a pretty good

593
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 3: team with a good defense. They put up thirty eight.

594
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: They can run and defend, yeah, effortlessly against the Missoo Tigers.

595
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 3: Even that win back in Week three against Notre Dame,

596
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 3: and they'll say what you want about Week three Notre Dame.

597
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:26,719
Speaker 1: But Texas.

598
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 3: A and M needed to win that one and a shootout,

599
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 3: and they did. They put up forty one points, they

600
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Speaker 3: win by one. That's a good win. That's looking like

601
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Speaker 3: a top ten win. Now we will see what A

602
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 3: and M has the rest of the way. They've got

603
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 3: a big one lingering week fourteen against Texas. But I

604
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 3: think Bio Largest is a team to me that feels

605
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 3: like they've gotten better. And this is not to say

606
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 3: that Indiana hasn't because the win that they got on

607
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 3: the road this week against Penn State. Look, we can

608
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 3: say whatever we want about Penn State. They now lost

609
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 3: six straight. Clearly they're in a different spot than we

610
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 3: thought prec as well.

611
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: Arguably the best winless Power Conference team. But Dan, Yeah, to.

612
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 3: Come from behind in the manna that they did a

613
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 3: minute in fifteen seconds driving the field eighty yards, that

614
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 3: incredible touchdown. You know, some of it in sports is

615
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 3: always luck, but that wasn't luck like that.

616
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Speaker 2: But they needed it that they needed it against a

617
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Speaker 2: big ten winless team.

618
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 3: That was a little bit of luck but a lot

619
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Speaker 3: of skill to win in the Manna that they did

620
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 3: still setting, so I don't want to take anything away

621
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Speaker 3: from Indiana and certainly go into Oregon and get Getting

622
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Speaker 3: that win on the road is impressive. But I think

623
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Speaker 3: if you put me in a situation where I had

624
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Speaker 3: to pick one over the other, I would favor And

625
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Speaker 3: this is how.

626
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Speaker 1: I typically do the polls. So I'll just go do

627
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Speaker 1: I think A bat C?

628
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Speaker 3: Do I think CEA beats D that type of thing.

629
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Speaker 3: I right now would favor Texas A and M or

630
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Speaker 3: Indiana on a neutral field if it were me.

631
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I would, I'd

632
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: have to think about it and dive in. I just

633
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: haven't given it as much thought. But I'm just Also,

634
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: Texas A and M hasn't played at Kyle Field in

635
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: a month. I don't know if that you noticed that

636
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 2: as some weird scheduling quirk in this moment. They had

637
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: a bye week in there, so they were able to

638
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: sort of recuperate and practice and everything. But that's that's

639
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 2: damn impressive too, playing three straight weeks. I mean, it's

640
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: Arkansas lame doc LSU caused a lame duck situation and

641
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 2: Missou without their starting quarterback.

642
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: But I don't know.

643
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: I just right now, if you're just gonna say who's

644
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 2: number two, who's number three, not necessarily, who's like definitively better,

645
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: and who you'd wager a thousand dollars on, there's a

646
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,239
Speaker 2: clean case for A and M at that number two.

647
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: I mean, let's put this way.

648
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 3: If it were Texas A and M against Indiana and

649
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 3: you told me I had to wager one thousand dollars

650
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 3: on one team or another, I would opt not to

651
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 3: wager a thousand dollars because.

652
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 2: What an unbelievable coaching matchup too, though, Oh yeah, you Knowlko.

653
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I just I have a.

654
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 3: Lot of respect for what both these teams have done

655
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 3: so far this season, and so I'm just this is

656
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,479
Speaker 3: not me saying it's a clear cut choice.

657
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Speaker 1: It was more spur the moment.

658
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 3: I was really impressed by what I saw from both

659
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 3: teams this past week. I might give it to A

660
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 3: and M by a nose, but I reserve the right

661
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 3: to change my opinion because these are two really good teams. Really,

662
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 3: the top four are loaded, and I've got a question

663
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,719
Speaker 3: for you about that. Yeah, in about ten minutes, okay, okay,

664
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Speaker 3: maybe five minutes, two minutes. Yeah, if you're ready to

665
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 3: move on from this, we can start it right now. Yeah.

666
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: I mean, is there anything a pe pole that you

667
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 2: wanted to discuss? We discussed for baller pole. The only

668
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 2: thing I had with the a peopole, which I don't

669
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 2: know if it's reflective in the verballer pole as well.

670
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: Just in terms of change from last week to this week,

671
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: I'm an unbiased narrator here. Oregon went and beat a

672
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: top five defense on the road in a monsoon and

673
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 2: fell a spot. And ole Miss beat not a citadel,

674
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 2: the city citadel, Yeah, at home, and they flipped rankings.

675
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: Oregon dropped a spot after beating a top twenty in

676
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 2: the playoff pole team in Iowa, and Ole Miss went

677
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 2: up a spot. And I know this is the ape

678
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 2: pole and not the playoff pole. The playoff pole comes

679
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: out Tuesday night, Wednesday Nighty.

680
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Speaker 3: That was a little weird, that's a little flimsy. No, Well,

681
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 3: we saw the same thing go down in the for

682
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 3: baller pool because last week they were flipped. Last week,

683
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 3: Oregon was a spot above Old Miss, and this week

684
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 3: Old Miss, yeah is a spot above Oregon.

685
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I understand, like Okay, if Oregon's a

686
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: top ten team, they should beat Iowa by more than

687
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 2: two points. That's fine, that's a reasonable Like they had

688
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 2: opportunities to make it a more comfortable win and weren't

689
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 2: able to capital I.

690
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: Mean, Indiana was close. Indiana could have lost to Iowa.

691
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 2: Indiana could have lost. I was a tough team. They're

692
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 2: not a complete team, certainly, but they're a tough team,

693
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: especially at home in inclement weather. But looking at ole

694
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: Miss taking care of business against the Citadel, I'm thinking,

695
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: all right.

696
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: We've seen enough.

697
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 2: All of our questions about ole Miss against the Citadel

698
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 2: have been very cleanly answered. Gotta put them above. I

699
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 2: don't know, again, I'm an unbiased narrator.

700
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: Well, for what it's.

701
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 3: Worth, if you look at the pole points in THEAP

702
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 3: top twenty five.

703
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a hair.

704
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 3: It was twelve forty eight for old Miss at six

705
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 3: and twelve forty five for Oregon. So it was quite

706
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,240
Speaker 3: literally one person who opted to put ole Miss ahead

707
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 3: of Oregon. And yeah, I don't know, somebody else can

708
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:12,439
Speaker 3: figure that out.

709
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's where we stand.

710
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, So look kind of on the heels of

711
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Speaker 3: all that, Congratulations skippy, you've got mail.

712
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Speaker 1: You've got mail on the solid ruble.

713
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 3: So I'm lying a bit when I play that sound,

714
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 3: But that's typically what we use for the Q and

715
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Speaker 3: A segments that we do here on the show. We

716
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Speaker 3: did not plan accordingly full disclosure to get questions from

717
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Speaker 3: the verballerhood. We will do that at some point very soon.

718
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 3: We owe the people a nice Q and A episode, okay,

719
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Speaker 3: But instead what we have in the Q and A

720
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Speaker 3: realm is questions for one another. Three questions from me

721
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Speaker 3: to you, three questions from you to me. We are

722
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 3: trying to real scrape the bottom of the barrel here.

723
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 3: We are trying to get all of the crevasses here

724
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 3: in this twenty twenty five college football season that maybe

725
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 3: we don't otherwise cover. And yeah, as you know, when

726
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 3: we're writing questions, sometimes these tend to tickle the realm

727
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 3: of the hypothetical. Okay, agree, I teased this a moment ago,

728
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 3: But here's my first question for you.

729
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: The stipulation is this. You cannot pick Ohio State or Indiana.

730
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: You cannot pick Texas A and M or Alabama. You have,

731
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: at last count one hundred and thirty two remaining teams

732
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: that you should consider your championship pool. Right, of those

733
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: remaining teams, who would you pick to emerge and be

734
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: the national champion? Who is the best of the rest.

735
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 2: The best of the non Ohio State, Indiana, nor A

736
00:35:54,080 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 2: and M or Alabama? Correct, I think it's the team

737
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: ranked right at number five. I think it's probably Georgia.

738
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: You're going Georgia. I think that the defense.

739
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 2: Okay, so if you do defense, quarterback Gunderstockton has grown,

740
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 2: I think exponentially throughout this season. I'm still I'm still

741
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 2: like crazy in love with their receiving corps in terms

742
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: of like, is there a winter wonder who could get

743
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 2: over the top on Ohio State or Indiana or you

744
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 2: know they obviously they've played Alabama and it didn't go

745
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: super well. But of those teams, and then if you

746
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: lump in coach as well, right, I think it's Georgia.

747
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: There is something about how much they've been tested, not

748
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 2: just this season, but over the course of these past

749
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 2: three or four seasons. There's a lot to like about

750
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: where Oregon is defensively right now. They're playing really well

751
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: in that secondary. I think they have winter runners there.

752
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: Other than a couple lapses against Iowa. But I think

753
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 2: the front is very good. I think the best of

754
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 2: Dante More and these running backs, they're excellent. We'll see

755
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 2: how healthy they get at receiver. I think they're like

756
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 2: one A with Georgia and I I'm not there with

757
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 2: Texas Tech because of Baron Morton just in terms of

758
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 2: like that level, that that peak of a mountain. I'm

759
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: not there with Texas Tech. I'm not there with Notre

760
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: Dame just because I haven't seen anything since those first

761
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 2: couple weeks of the season in terms of being tested

762
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: against either top flight defense or I guess USC is

763
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 2: a is A and can be a top flight offense.

764
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 1: It was a beat up USC team that week.

765
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Speaker 2: And I don't think they're like I think ole Miss

766
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 2: is really good, but I'm not there with ole Miss

767
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 2: for whatever reason. I just have a block with ole

768
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 2: Miss at this point. So I'd say Georgia and then

769
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 2: Oregon without really a wild card in there, because I

770
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 2: don't have that like combination quarterback and defense. Like there

771
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 2: is something folk hero ish about guys like Diego Pavia

772
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 2: and Haines King, but I don't think either one of

773
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: those guys has the defense to back them up. I

774
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 2: don't trust Art Manning. I think Texas has a championship defense.

775
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 2: I don't trust Arch Manning in this offensive line to

776
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: include them in this conversation. So I guess I'm going

777
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 2: Georgia one A Oregon.

778
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 3: I think what makes this season really interesting, especially now

779
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 3: as we kind of wind it down and get into

780
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 3: the playoff chase and all that stuff. Yeah, you know,

781
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 3: like before we had the twelve team, or we had

782
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 3: a four teamer, and you can make a pretty strong

783
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 3: case that this would be a really good year for

784
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 3: a four team, or maybe just as you could make

785
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 3: the case last year.

786
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, But.

787
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 3: Now that we do have twelve, I'm very curious to

788
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 3: see which of those teams outside of the top four,

789
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 3: either throughout the month of November or through the first

790
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 3: round or two of the playoff emerge as the quote

791
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 3: unquote wildcard, because it feels to me that, like, regardless

792
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 3: of whatever these teams are seeded, when they get into

793
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 3: the final twelve team field, there is going to be

794
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 3: ample opportunity for one of these teams to emerge in

795
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 3: a really significant way and take on that role as wildcard.

796
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 3: And I don't know who it's going to be right now,

797
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 3: Like we could talk about Georgia. I don't know if

798
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 3: Georgia in any context right now in the year of

799
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 3: Our Lord twenty twenty five could be considered a wild card,

800
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 3: right maybe in terms of this question, but George is

801
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 3: kind of a no quantity under Kirby Smart, you know,

802
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 3: but certainly Old Miss getting into a playoff would be

803
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 3: a new thing Oregon if they were to go on

804
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 3: any kind of run with this team with you know,

805
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 3: not Dylan Gabriel, you know, with a greener quarterback.

806
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: Bill Gabriel's really good.

807
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 2: But like, one of the things that I think we

808
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 2: should mention is when you say wild card, it's not

809
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 2: just a wild card like they're getting hot at the

810
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 2: right time. It could be a wild card like what

811
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 2: Penn State got in terms of playoff seating last season,

812
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 2: right that Oregon could get all due respect Oregon or

813
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: George or whoever could get USF and Georgia Tech in

814
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: the first two rounds of the playoffs.

815
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 1: That's right.

816
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 3: You could absolutely go on a bit of a run

817
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 3: based on your path, as Penn State did right a

818
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 3: year ago.

819
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 2: Now, so then you avoid Bama, or you avoid Indie,

820
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 2: or you avoid Texas A and M because they lost

821
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: to somebody in a previous round.

822
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: That's right.

823
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 3: I think that Penn State scenario was far less likely

824
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 3: this year, just because we're not going to have a

825
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 3: Boise Party crasher situation, right. But even still, well, there

826
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 3: is going to be a G six team. There will

827
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 3: be a G S.

828
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 1: There's this in the first round at home.

829
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna be the number twelve seed in all probability,

830
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 3: and in this case it would be against Georgia. But

831
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 3: this is all just to say that somebody will emerge

832
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 3: and I don't know who, but I'm excited to see

833
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 3: who that might be. It could even be the G

834
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 3: six team.

835
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: Who knows. Maybe you're a Byron Brown fan like me.

836
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 2: You know you could get You could get USF and

837
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 2: their secondary that you get to throw on and you

838
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 2: have to tackle Byron Brown, which is like one of

839
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: the seven most difficult things you could ask a team

840
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 2: to do this season.

841
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: And you could, Yeah, you could get an ACC team.

842
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 2: You could get an at large team that just sort

843
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 2: of happened to be there and got in. But yeah,

844
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: I would take what's going on and how Georgia seems

845
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 2: to be improving and taking care of business. And look,

846
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 2: they're a winning as a skilled team too when you

847
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 2: look at some of their performances against Florida or against

848
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 2: Auburn where it wasn't pretty for stretches, but they were

849
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 2: able to, you know, make fewer mistakes down the stretch

850
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 2: and come out with a w. I yeah, I would

851
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 2: just have I think, more confidence in a team like

852
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,439
Speaker 2: that than like, I think Notre Dame has a really

853
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 2: interesting ceiling because there is an argument to be made

854
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: that their defense, I mean, it's not an argument their

855
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 2: defense has gotten better of the course of this season,

856
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: but other than the USC offense, who have they proven

857
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: that against.

858
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: It's totally fair, totally fair. And yeah, CJ.

859
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 2: Carr has answered a ton of questions as the season

860
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 2: has gone on that he looks like he's one of

861
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 2: the best dozen or so quarterbacks in the country. So

862
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 2: I'm I'm great with Notre Dame as an answer. I

863
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 2: just have less to go on in terms of what

864
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: we have in the bank.

865
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 3: Next question, Dan, pretend for a moment that you are

866
00:41:54,560 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 3: James Franklin. Okay, right now, your options are Virginia Tech,

867
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 3: maybe Arkansas, maybe UCLA, could be others that emerge who knows,

868
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 3: m H. Which school are you choosing and why?

869
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: Oh, I would choose Virginia Tech of those three. Of

870
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: those three, I'd choose Virginia Tech. Are you saying any

871
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 2: open job?

872
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 3: I'm saying of those three in particular, But if you

873
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 3: want to extend it out to all the jobs, yeah,

874
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 3: where does Virginia What I'm getting at here is where

875
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 3: does Virginia Tech rank on the totem pool?

876
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: I think they're a top that three team er.

877
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: UCLA doesn't fully know what stadium they're going to be

878
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 2: playing in for the foreseeable future.

879
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 3: Did I see that they might pay like eighty million

880
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 3: dollars to break the Rose Bull?

881
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: Lease?

882
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 2: They're just they're over the Rose Bowl, and I can't

883
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: blame them. It's far enough away, you know. It's the

884
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: Rose Bowl is a great venue for a huge game.

885
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 2: UCLA just happens to not play in huge games basically ever,

886
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 2: so it's sort of lost on ruin football at the moment.

887
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: They don't have a coach, obviously, there's just a lot

888
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: of uncertainty. James Franklin would be that coach in this scenario,

889
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 2: but I don't know that they're pouring the resources into

890
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 2: nil and portal stuff in a way that they would

891
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: need to win the Big Ten to make serious noise,

892
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 2: and Arkansas just seems like the path is too difficult.

893
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: That you can figure out how to get that one

894
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 2: special season at Arkansas, but in terms of building something

895
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 2: where you can consistently hope to win ten nine and

896
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 2: a half games ten games, I think the ACC path

897
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 2: is better. I think the experience James Franklin has in

898
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: recruiting there, I think the investment in Blacksburg is significant enough,

899
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: and I think what's ahead of you in the ACC

900
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: at the moment is not insurmountable. So I think the

901
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,439
Speaker 2: answer is Virginia Tech. And if you win eight nine

902
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 2: games a season at Virginia Tech, you got a job

903
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: for as long as you want.

904
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 3: Now, the wrinkle that I would add to this like

905
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 3: I'm not privy to anything. I saw our friend Josh

906
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 3: Pate was talking through a little bit of a rumor

907
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 3: about Lincoln Riley's had keep your eye on Lincoln Rally.

908
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: Now, I don't know what I saw that have heard

909
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 2: like very unsubstantiated murmurs about Lincoln Riley's past and future.

910
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 3: There's been some stuff out there, for sure, James Franklin

911
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 3: would hop on one leg out to LA to take

912
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 3: that job. Okay, if they were interested in him. I

913
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 3: know he was interested in them at least twice before

914
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 3: to see what he could do if he could get

915
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 3: out there.

916
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: It didn't work out previously.

917
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 3: If that is something that ends up coming to fruition

918
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 3: and again we know nothing, I would keep my own

919
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 3: James franklud for that, trying to get his name in

920
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 3: the running there.

921
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 2: James Franklin would work a weekly shift at Chaano's, like

922
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: the taco shack right by USC. I think it's still

923
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 2: open to get that job. He would he would walk

924
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: to LA to take that job. Yeah, the only way

925
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: I think if Lincoln Riley just I don't think it's

926
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 2: a USC thing Lincoln Riley in his future from what

927
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: I know. If he's happy in La, if his family's

928
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 2: happy in LA, if he gets along with the administration

929
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: at USC, he's got a very strong, too excellent recruiting

930
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 2: class coming in, it would I think it would be

931
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 2: an unhappiness question with Lincoln Riley and slash his family

932
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 2: in that situation more than a like seeing grasp being

933
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 2: greener elsewhere in terms of a path to a playoff.

934
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 1: Find a question.

935
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 3: Okay, Dan Rubiste, what is the solution for what feels

936
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 3: like the worst run of officiating that we have seen

937
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 3: in maybe the entire span of time we've been doing

938
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 3: the show since two thousand and eight.

939
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: Right, it feels like it is.

940
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 3: Horrible this season to an extent that I I've never

941
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 3: really been wanting to complain about the officials, and everybody

942
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 3: tends to get the short end of the stick. If

943
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 3: you play a full twelve game slate, right, you are

944
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 3: You're a big problem. You're note name one was was

945
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 3: it an NC State call that you were like? What

946
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 3: is even happening? I mean, don't even listen to me.

947
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,439
Speaker 3: Listen to Terry McCauley. He went off on his Twitter

948
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 3: account about it, and he loves classic seventies rock and

949
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 3: hates the bike short and hates the bike short thing

950
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 3: that we got going on.

951
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: That's a separate conversation altogether.

952
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 3: But officiating has been real bad, feels like it's getting worse,

953
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 3: and so I'm just asking you as a former official,

954
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 3: of course, yeah, of course, what is there a solve

955
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 3: for this? Is there any way to make this better?

956
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,919
Speaker 3: Or are we just sort of trapped in refereepurgatory.

957
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: And by the way, the sidebar, Harry, you were you

958
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: not an umpire? Did I make that up? I was

959
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: an umpire back in the day.

960
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 3: Okay, not on you understand the baseball field, but just

961
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 3: do you understand that.

962
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: Community in a way that not many do? Right as

963
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: a twelve year old? Yeah?

964
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 3: No, definitely umpiring for twelve year olds. I did have

965
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 3: a situation.

966
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: Okay, uh huh.

967
00:46:55,440 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 3: Where I called somebody out at home plate and I

968
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 3: was definitely taking like proverbial arrows from a coach that

969
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 3: I knew whose team had lost on the call, and

970
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 3: it was widely seen as the wrong call.

971
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 1: Okay, and I stand by it. I don't stand by

972
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: it at all.

973
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 3: I think I may have admitted in the moment, hey,

974
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 3: I made a mistake, like right after it happened, which

975
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 3: was definitely not what it took to make the coach

976
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 3: feel better about things, right, But I found that I

977
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 3: was far too indecisive to be a good umpire.

978
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 2: You were Eastern PA's God. Who is the World Series?

979
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 2: I'm who gave the terrible levant? Was it Levon Hernandez

980
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: who got like crazy on hell on hell Hernandez?

981
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean Levon Hernandez was a pitcher.

982
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 2: No, I know that he was, but he was in

983
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 2: that World Series. Didn't he get crazy strikes called? I

984
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,399
Speaker 2: don't remember, like way out of the zone.

985
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 3: Well, I remember the Eric Greg game if that's what

986
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 3: you're talking about, Oh, Eric Greg, excuse me? Yeah, I

987
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 3: mean those pitches were like four feet outside and he

988
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 3: was calling right just to get through the game.

989
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: Right.

990
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, we have some Eric Greg situations in the

991
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 2: college football landscape in twenty twenty five.

992
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 1: I do, okay? Is it a fixable thing? One?

993
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 2: We got to get our guy, Jean's sterritor on the show.

994
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 2: Did they ever get back to you? Did CBS ever

995
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 2: get back to you back? When I say our guy,

996
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 2: I don't know Gene at all, but we just love Gene.

997
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 2: Is it a fixable thing? Is is it something you

998
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 2: can wade through to a mend? The only thing I

999
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,720
Speaker 2: would say is it's a difficult job. It's bang bang.

1000
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,919
Speaker 2: I would say. The older you get, potentially, the more

1001
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: difficult it is. You'd like to have sharp eyes, but

1002
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 2: you'd also like to have experience. Dies you got to

1003
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 2: find the happy medium there. I think the big thing

1004
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 2: is in these games and It applies to every sport, right,

1005
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 2: it applies to referees running up and down a basketball

1006
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 2: court or calling a baseball game. You just you got

1007
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 2: to have like an even showing, like if you're gonna

1008
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 2: say we're gonna let corners get away with a lot,

1009
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 2: let it go both ways, like this is the tenor

1010
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,240
Speaker 2: of this game, We're going to let the corners play.

1011
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 2: Or if you're going to say, like we're gonna be

1012
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 2: like we're going to be very lax with holds, great,

1013
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 2: be lax with holds both ways. I think that needs

1014
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 2: to be stressed. I think there has to be an agreement,

1015
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 2: a tacit agreement and unspoked whatever between a crew that says, Okay,

1016
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 2: this is the tenor of this game. Here's how we're

1017
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 2: going to let them play.

1018
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 1: Go.

1019
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 2: My problem is when you're inconsistent quarter to quarter, drive

1020
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 2: to drive, and you're calling pitches on the corner, then

1021
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 2: you're not calling pitches on the corner, right that There

1022
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,439
Speaker 2: is something about a refereeing crew that is all over

1023
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 2: the place in terms of how they're calling a game

1024
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 2: that is infuriating. So I think everybody needs to get

1025
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 2: on the same page in terms of like what the

1026
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 2: rhythm of this game should be. From a refereeing perspective,

1027
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 2: I kind of think that part of the solve is

1028
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 2: to simplify the rule book. You know, okay, I just

1029
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 2: just did our lifetime. I'll use as an example what

1030
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: constitutes a catch or what is a fumble in twenty

1031
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:09,240
Speaker 2: twenty five?

1032
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: You know, did the ground cause the fumble?

1033
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 3: I have this conversation with Uncle Joe all the time,

1034
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 3: who calls me up and complains to no end about

1035
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 3: back in the day, if you fumbled it, you fumbled it, right,

1036
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 3: didn't matter if the ground cause it, didn't matter if

1037
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 3: a guy ripped it out of your hands when he

1038
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 3: was down on the ground.

1039
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: A fumble was a fumble.

1040
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 2: And then your uncle Joe is Joe West, retired legendary

1041
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball umpip. Of course, of course, yeah, yeah.

1042
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 3: And though I don't fully agree with that sentiment, I

1043
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 3: do think there is a grain of truth there in

1044
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 3: that the rule book has gotten so complicated and there

1045
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 3: are so many like permutations of roughing the quarterback. There

1046
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 3: are so many different variables that need to be considered

1047
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 3: on every plane. No wonder, it's such a hard job,

1048
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 3: right If the officiating feels like it's getting worse. It's

1049
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 3: probably because the rules are getting more sophisticated and it's

1050
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 3: getting harder to kind of govern the game as it's

1051
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 3: going on. And yeah, we have replays, and replays has

1052
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 3: limits as well. The thought that I have had multiple

1053
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 3: times throughout the course of this year is, I wonder

1054
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 3: if you try to streamline this, if you try to

1055
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 3: take some of these gray areas out, or just make

1056
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 3: a judgment call one way or the other, if that

1057
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 3: wouldn't make the job a little bit easier in the

1058
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,479
Speaker 3: officiating feel like it's a little bit better across the board.

1059
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 3: Right again, I umpired twelve year olds playing little league baseball.

1060
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,760
Speaker 3: I have never umpired anything out there on the field

1061
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 3: of play in the football game.

1062
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 2: And you've since been banned. Yeah, after that horrible call.

1063
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 3: Even if I'm making this up, but yeah, I'll go

1064
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 3: with that, it'll give me a hard edge either way.

1065
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: Look, it's a hard job. I just wonder if.

1066
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,439
Speaker 3: There is some simplification in order to you know, let

1067
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 3: some of the stuff slide, or as you said, the

1068
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 3: TACIT agreement beforehand, to allow some penalties to go uncalled.

1069
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 3: You know, if you watch the NFL, Like I watched

1070
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 3: the Giants game yesterday.

1071
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: Unfortunately. I mean, it's just flag after flag, flag of

1072
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: the flag of the play, right some of them.

1073
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,720
Speaker 3: That's some of this stuff is just it's very clear

1074
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 3: that you could just not call it and it'd be fine,

1075
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 3: and I don't think anybody would have too much uproar.

1076
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 3: But it's as long as it goes both ways, right,

1077
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 3: song as it goes both ways? Yeah, as long as

1078
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 3: there is a targeting call that goes one way and

1079
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 3: then somebody gets hit, you know, an egregious crown of

1080
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 3: the helmet hit and it doesn't get called, You're just like, well,

1081
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 3: what type of game are we looking for here? Because

1082
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 3: nobody wants a game featuring one team committing fourteen penalties

1083
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,720
Speaker 3: and another team committing twelve penalties.

1084
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: Right, you don't.

1085
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 2: Nobody wants an a rhythmic game with constant stoppages. I

1086
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 2: don't think people want games in which penalties are constantly

1087
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 2: being reviewed by you know, the league office, the command

1088
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 2: center in real time all the time. Nobody wants that.

1089
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 2: So then you're juggling, Okay, what are we calling? What

1090
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 2: are the rules that are important here? What are the

1091
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 2: rules that like are affecting the game. Like, how many

1092
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 2: times have we seen a play get called back because

1093
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 2: a left guard was two and a half feet past

1094
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 2: the allotted you know, distance beyond the line of scrimmage

1095
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 2: that right, that happens. No, that has no effect on

1096
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 2: the play whatsoever? Right that it Like it's a quarterback

1097
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 2: scrambling out. The guy doesn't even go downfield, you know,

1098
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 2: until after the ball is thrown, or like right before

1099
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,439
Speaker 2: the ball is thrown, and that giant play, that game

1100
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 2: change and play is brought back because an illegal man downfield.

1101
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 2: It wasn't like a guy getting super far upfield to

1102
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 2: really sell an RPO that's affecting defensive keys. It's just

1103
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 2: a guy not knowing that the ball was thrown and

1104
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 2: started running down to help block and it's called back. Like,

1105
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 2: is that the spirit of a flag that we want

1106
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,919
Speaker 2: in this sport? I would say, no, it's a judgment call,

1107
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 2: and you want to take out judgment calls as much

1108
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 2: as you can. But like, does it affect the spirit

1109
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 2: of this play? Is a defensive end being held as

1110
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 2: he's going in for a game changing sac call the hold, right,

1111
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 2: But in the situation like that where it has no

1112
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 2: bearing on.

1113
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: The outcome of a play. He's just like, it's fine,

1114
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: let it go. I don't know, man.

1115
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 3: We could probably do a whole podcast series on the

1116
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 3: evolution of and current public support for targeting, but we

1117
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 3: won't do that here.

1118
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 2: By the way, you're never going to convince anybody that

1119
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 2: a game was well refereed because during a game, everybody

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00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 2: watching the game is just all like testosterone and just

1121
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 2: nothing but like guts and id and emotions, and you

1122
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 2: can't appreciate the nuances of a no call or a

1123
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 2: great call or whatever, and it's it's sort of a

1124
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 2: thankless situation. These these refs are put in, but yeah,

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00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 2: you'd like to see more spirit and more things going

1126
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 2: both ways and not having a discussion about them at all.

1127
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 3: So look, we have two games to preview. We have

1128
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 3: some under the radar games that we need to get to.

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00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 3: You did write three questions for me. If if you

1130
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:54,439
Speaker 3: want to, we can.

1131
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 1: Let's go through this. I'll go through them quickly. Yeah,

1132
00:54:56,320 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: go ahead, all right, First question, ty, I wrote it

1133
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: down and I'm searching for it. Okay. First question, Ashanti

1134
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: test So this is a you thing.

1135
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 2: Continue of the quarterbacks in the top twelve, who do

1136
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 2: you trust the most the least, and who has the

1137
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 2: biggest opportunity to catapult themselves these last few weeks. And

1138
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 2: by catapult I mean like become a household national name

1139
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 2: that isn't necessarily yet.

1140
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: All right, So I based this on the AP Top

1141
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: twenty five.

1142
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 3: Yes, no disrespect to our forballer hood, but it's you know,

1143
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 3: it's close enough.

1144
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:35,479
Speaker 1: I probably trust Ty Simpson the most right now.

1145
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 3: Okay, you could definitely make a case for Julian saying,

1146
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 3: you could probably make a case for Fernando Mendoz after

1147
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 3: what we saw this past week. Marcel Reid has been

1148
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 3: great this year. There are a lot of really good quarterbacks.

1149
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 3: That's why these teams are in the top twelve to

1150
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 3: begin with. But I think every time I watched an

1151
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 3: Alabama game, it feels to me like Ty Simpson is

1152
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 3: putting the ball where it needs to be accurately, on time,

1153
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 3: and more often than not, in the face of a

1154
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 3: pretty vicious pass rush, pass rush yep. So for me,

1155
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 3: he feels like the guy above all in this field.

1156
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 3: Right now, just you know, I could change my mind.

1157
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 3: He feels like the guy that scares me the most,

1158
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 3: So I would probably go Tie Simpson. Okay, the one

1159
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 3: that I would trust least right now will be bear

1160
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 3: Bachmeyer up to four hundred pounds. Now, we've been recording

1161
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 3: for about an hour, so he keeps putting on the weight.

1162
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 3: I like bear Bachmeyer. I think he's a really talented player.

1163
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 3: I think the way that he almost fits what Byu

1164
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 3: does offensively to a t because he can.

1165
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: Do so many different things.

1166
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but right now, in terms of you know who

1167
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 3: I trust relative to the field here I he's going

1168
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 3: to be the last one, okay, where I think you

1169
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 3: agree with that? You disagree with that? Yes, who would

1170
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 3: you trust less than bear Bachmeyer?

1171
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 2: I think I would trust both Baron Morton and arch

1172
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 2: Manning less at this moment, and I'm willing to even

1173
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 2: maybe trust Trinidad Shambliss less.

1174
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 3: I have arch Manning as the guy who could catapult

1175
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 3: himself the most over these next few weeks. Again, it

1176
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,720
Speaker 3: could be the same person, It could be the same person.

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00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 3: Arch Manning has a road tilt this week against Georgia,

1178
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 3: which we're going to talk about momentarily. If he plays

1179
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 3: well in that game, clearly that's going to catapult his

1180
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 3: trust stock.

1181
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: If nothing more, he.

1182
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 3: Closes out the year against what appears to be what

1183
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 3: should still be a top three Texas A and M

1184
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 3: team rivalry spot in Austin to close out the season.

1185
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 3: If arch Manning goes on a really nice run here

1186
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 3: these final three weeks, he, above all else, I think,

1187
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 3: has more opportunity to catapult his stock and make himself

1188
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 3: more trustworthy than any other name on this list. Arch Manning,

1189
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 3: by the way, it feels to me like arch Manning

1190
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 3: since their bye week has gotten better. It feels like

1191
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 3: they have improved their passing attack a little bit more

1192
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 3: and it just seems like emperiend's clicking and I say

1193
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 3: bye week, But what I really mean is the concussion. Okay,

1194
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 3: oh yes, you know, and he even joked about that.

1195
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 3: But since that moment, it feels as if he's playing

1196
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 3: a little bit more loose, a little bit more accurate,

1197
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 3: a little bit freer, maybe not looking at the line

1198
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 3: as much when he's dropping back. I think, given the

1199
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 3: games that he's got in front of him, the answer

1200
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 3: are there is obvious. It's arch You can catapult himself

1201
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:24,439
Speaker 3: the most.

1202
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 2: So the reason why I would say that I trust

1203
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 2: bear Bachmeyer a little bit more than say Baron Morton

1204
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 2: say arch Manning. In arch Manning's case, I just don't

1205
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 2: trust the line in front of him in these huge

1206
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 2: games for him to have enough time to grow and shine,

1207
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 2: with an addendum being yes, the running game has shown

1208
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 2: up a little bit more recently, but it's not a

1209
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 2: huge weapon. I don't know if, like I really like

1210
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 2: Ryan wingout outside for arch and for Texas, but it

1211
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 2: doesn't feel like they have that room in the way

1212
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 2: that they did last season led by I guess Matthew Golden,

1213
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 2: and so with the experienced offensive line last season, there

1214
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 2: was a lot more to trust about Texas on offense.

1215
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 2: So I don't trust Arts just because I don't think

1216
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 2: he's going to be given the opportunity to prove himself

1217
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 2: to be more trustworthy. It's also kind of like I

1218
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 2: don't trust John Mattier, like I don't love I mean,

1219
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 2: the Oklahoma line has gotten better, but I don't love

1220
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 2: this offense week to week in big games. This week

1221
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 2: will go a long way, right Oklahoma has Bama, yep,

1222
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 2: this week will go along. I just I don't have

1223
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 2: a lot of trust in that passing offense. So maybe

1224
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 2: it's passing offense instead of quarterback name in terms of catapulting.

1225
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:38,479
Speaker 2: I actually think Marcel Reid I don't think in terms

1226
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 2: of his name recognition that he is there with a

1227
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 2: lot of the quarterbacks in this top ten, twelve, fifteen,

1228
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 2: even though he's earned it.

1229
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: He's been really good this year.

1230
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 2: I think if he is able to go to Austin

1231
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 2: and show out against the Texas defense, that's when you're

1232
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 2: talking about a true national catapult with Marcel Reid. All right,

1233
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 2: give me question number two. Question number two, Tyler, I

1234
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 2: went to the wrong window for my question. Does schedule

1235
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 2: matter to you in terms of December slash January preparedness?

1236
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 2: And I will add what Ohio State was able to

1237
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 2: glean from both the Oregon loss and the Michigan loss

1238
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 2: last year. And this is a small sample size of

1239
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 2: one team one year, but in this current era, what

1240
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 2: Ohio State was able to do in terms of growing

1241
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 2: for the playoff because of their test during the regular season.

1242
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 2: Does the fact that Ohio State doesn't have that this season. Indiana,

1243
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 2: I think, is going to finish the season against the

1244
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 2: Big twelve with a grouping of teams that are like

1245
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 2: two to twenty nine in the conference like something. Again,

1246
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 2: not their fault. But do you feel a little bit

1247
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 2: skittish pushing all your chips to the middle of the

1248
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 2: table when we have some of these teams being seemingly

1249
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 2: as untested as they look right now. I know that's

1250
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 2: a very loaded like.

1251
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 3: No, well, there's almost two questions in there. Yeah, I

1252
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 3: mean the first thing that comes to mind is and

1253
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, because I've said this forever, a

1254
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 3: team is not its schedule.

1255
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 1: Agree.

1256
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 3: You know, I've referred to this over the years as

1257
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 3: the Boise State test, where you can be the best

1258
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 3: team in the country and have terrible strength of schedule mhm.

1259
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 3: And we have a tendency to connect the two that

1260
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 3: if you have a good schedule, therefore you must be

1261
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 3: a good team, or vice versa. I tend to think

1262
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 3: that those things are a little bit more mutually exclusive

1263
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 3: than they would appear if you read some of the

1264
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 3: public commentary. There's value in having a good schedule, and

1265
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 3: I think that's what you're getting to. But in terms

1266
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 3: of you know, this team has a crap schedule, therefore

1267
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 3: they must be crap or therefore they're completely overrated. I

1268
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 3: just I don't always see it that way. I think

1269
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 3: that's kind of an unfair approach, Do.

1270
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 1: You prefer teams that you have confidence in?

1271
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 3: No, of course, of course I prefer those teams. And

1272
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 3: this is where I would say that as schedule is

1273
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 3: basically a series.

1274
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: Of experiments week in and week out. Great way of phrasing.

1275
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 3: It, you know, and if you are doing an experiment correctly,

1276
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 3: you are learning something from it. So yeah, playing better defenses,

1277
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 3: playing tough games on the road, close game situations, having

1278
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 3: some familiarity with that type of thing absolutely builds confidence

1279
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 3: and should make you a better team. So in terms

1280
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 3: of ranking, in terms of ranking teams, if I am

1281
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 3: looking purely at strength of schedule, I don't think that

1282
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 3: tells the full picture of how good a team is

1283
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 3: or isn't. But when it comes to picking teams in

1284
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 3: the playoffs, that's when I tend to look a little

1285
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 3: bit more at who's battle tested and who isn't. Right,

1286
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 3: But that's where I tend to look at all, Right,

1287
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 3: who has this team played? What types of situations have

1288
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 3: they been in through the course of the season. Did

1289
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 3: it appears if they grew from that? I mean, we

1290
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 3: could use Notre Dame as an example, because you brought

1291
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 3: them up earlier but Notre Dame got shelled on defense

1292
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 3: for the first couple week of the year. They have

1293
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 3: gotten better now. The competition probably need to grade this

1294
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 3: on a bit of a curve because it's not playing

1295
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 3: Texas A and m in Miami every week. But even still,

1296
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 3: it feels as if there's been real growth there. They've

1297
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 3: definitely gotten better at quarterback. They've gotten better on offense.

1298
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 3: They are a lot more explosive than they were at

1299
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 3: the start of the year as they have figured this

1300
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 3: thing out. So teams are allowed to grow, teams are

1301
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 3: allowed to adapt and adjust, and absolutely being in those

1302
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 3: situations is something that I think has real value. But again,

1303
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 3: a team is not as schedule, so keep things I

1304
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 3: think within limits.

1305
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, the only thing I would add is reinforcing like

1306
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 2: it's not a team isn't their schedule, But a team

1307
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,919
Speaker 2: gives itself every advantage when they play those measuring stick games,

1308
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 2: when they're able to course correct certain aspects of their

1309
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 2: team based on performances against playoff or playoff ish or

1310
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 2: playoff adjacent type teams. Even a team like Ole Miss

1311
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 2: All Miss. I believe this season right, no Texas, no

1312
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 2: Texas A and m Obama, no Vanderbilts, and it's impossible

1313
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:04,919
Speaker 2: for any of these teams, Like, not everybody can play

1314
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 2: a murderous schedule in these giant conferences. So that's obviously

1315
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 2: you know, it should be noted. But yeah, I and

1316
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 2: part of it is, I mean, sorry to say it's

1317
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 2: Penn State's fault now that Penn State isn't a good

1318
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 2: team for Ohio State and Indiana to measure themselves against.

1319
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 2: Like you're just gonna have those situations. It's happened in

1320
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 2: the ACC with teams like Clemson and Florida State not

1321
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 2: providing some of the better teams that conference with measuring

1322
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 2: stick opportunities. And then you know LSU and Florida and

1323
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 2: some of the Auburn some of the more disappointing teams

1324
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 2: in the SEC. Not everybody can be a top fifteen

1325
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 2: team again, these giant conferences. But these teams that have

1326
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 2: fallen off either unexpectedly or dramatically, are affecting schedules and

1327
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 2: are affecting We talked about this earlier, our ability to

1328
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 2: look forward to a top fifteen matchup. It just feels

1329
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 2: like there are less measuring stick games this year. Again,

1330
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 2: it's your alma mater's fault in Penn State.

1331
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 3: I just I care a lot more about does it

1332
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 3: feel as if a team is getting better totally? And

1333
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 3: you can quantify that however you want. For some it's

1334
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 3: the eye test. For others, there are analytics that you

1335
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:13,919
Speaker 3: can look at EPA per play efficiency, success rates. I mean,

1336
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 3: the list goes on and on in numbers that you

1337
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 3: can look at and maybe in some cases that you

1338
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 3: prefer one over the other. But that's that's the thing

1339
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 3: that I tend to care a little bit more about

1340
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 3: versus you.

1341
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 1: Know, what's your strength of schedule? Final the games? Yeah,

1342
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 1: final question.

1343
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 2: So I mean this is an easy transition. What's the

1344
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 2: best remaining game of the regular season, not including conference

1345
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 2: championship weekend. This is just you personally where you're just like,

1346
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 2: this is the game where I want to order a

1347
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 2: special sandwich. Clear my schedule, Like, make sure I've got

1348
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 2: my special blankie on the couch.

1349
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 3: I do have a blanky, by the way, I don't

1350
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 3: know exactly right you have a blanky. I call it

1351
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 3: a blankie, but it's got a nice little fleece lining

1352
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 3: to it.

1353
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 1: I like it.

1354
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 2: So I just bought a new premium one for Jody

1355
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 2: with and I her birthday just passed, and so that

1356
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 2: was one of the gifts that I gave.

1357
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 1: Have you tried the weighted blanket thing yet?

1358
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 2: No, but I understand that people really like it. It's

1359
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:12,439
Speaker 2: like extremely comfortable and calming, right, Yeah, but I'm open

1360
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 2: to suggestions, blanket suggestions.

1361
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,439
Speaker 3: So what is the what is the ultimate schedule carve

1362
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 3: out for you? So, I mean, I'm pretty excited about

1363
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 3: Texas George which we're going to talk about here in

1364
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 3: a few minutes. For me, the answer is Texas Texas

1365
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 3: A and.

1366
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 2: M Okay in Austin. I think the Friday right after Thanksgiving.

1367
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I am so pumped for that game. I

1368
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 3: am thrilled for that. I mean, I'm thrilled for three

1369
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 3: games that weekend, Texas Texas A and M Georgia. Georgia

1370
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 3: Tech should be fun, and obviously Ohio State Michigan. That

1371
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 3: goes without saying. Those three games are just incredible. And

1372
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 3: there are plenty of other incredible games in week fourteen,

1373
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 3: But the Texas Texas A and M thing, the rivalry

1374
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 3: coming back to Austin. I don't know what state this

1375
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 3: game will find Texas in, you know, like one of

1376
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 3: the things we'll talk about what this Georgia affair this

1377
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 3: weekend is. The range of possibilities for Texas is vast

1378
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 3: at this point. If they win against Georgia, a lot

1379
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 3: is still left to play for. If they lose, a

1380
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 3: lot of the postseason stuff goes up in smoke. But

1381
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 3: this could be an opportunity to introduce a little bit

1382
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 3: of chaos, let's say, into the SEC race, into the

1383
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 3: playoff field. Okay, So there's a lot that I think

1384
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 3: could go on just based on the outcome of this

1385
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 3: Texas Texas A and M game, and a lot of

1386
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 3: it is dependent on where Texas is at.

1387
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 1: For me, that's the easy answer.

1388
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 3: Georgia Georgia Tech was fun as hell a year ago,

1389
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 3: and I don't really have a reason to think that

1390
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 3: it won't be fun again Georgia Tech. You know, on defense.

1391
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 3: Maybe that's a separate conversation. Ohio State Michigan clearly is

1392
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 3: like its own subcategory what we talk about big regular

1393
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 3: season affairs. But for me, it's Texas, Texas A and M.

1394
01:07:56,600 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 2: Okay, I was between this week's Georgia Texas because it's

1395
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 2: such a terrific measuring stick and it's at the top

1396
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 2: and it's gonna have all sorts of implications.

1397
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 1: I was between that.

1398
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 2: I obviously considered Texas Texas A and m Ohio State

1399
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 2: Michigan those types of games. But I'm gonna give you

1400
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 2: a wild card, and it's purely for potential electricity, potential

1401
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:24,759
Speaker 2: driving at least one fan base completely out of their minds,

1402
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 2: having still conference championship implications, and it just looks like

1403
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 2: it's going to be such an entertaining game. I might

1404
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 2: get a weighted blanket just to watch Miami pit Pit.

1405
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:43,680
Speaker 2: Miami man at Pitt, It's at Pittyeah. Both of these

1406
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 2: teams have very clear weaknesses, I mean not clear weakness.

1407
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 1: In terms of Miami.

1408
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 2: Miami can be very good, they haven't been generating huge

1409
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 2: plays as much as they probably should be, considering some

1410
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 2: of the talent on this offense and Carson Beck's experience.

1411
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 2: Pitt is sort of like an all or nothing team.

1412
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 2: Both of these schools have, you know, big emotional coaches.

1413
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 2: I just there is something about this matchup that in

1414
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 2: a year that we've lost some of these huge matchups

1415
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 2: and this is not a huge matchup, but there is

1416
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 2: something about this specific game where I was just like, Man,

1417
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:19,720
Speaker 2: this feels like entertainment in a way, like, oh, it'll

1418
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:23,520
Speaker 2: be an entertaining game. It's there's not like the seriousness

1419
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 2: of a game with Miami and Pitt. But it's just like,

1420
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna pay more attention to Miami Pitt

1421
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 2: this year than I am some like top fifteen top

1422
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 2: twenty matchups. If it's not a top fifteen top twenty matchup,

1423
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 2: I can't wait.

1424
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:39,560
Speaker 3: Well, Look, as I said before, Miami's probably out of

1425
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 3: the running for both the ACC and the playoff.

1426
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1427
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 3: Probably m hm. They've got games against NC State, against

1428
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 3: Virginia Tech, and then they close out the year against Pitt.

1429
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 1: M HM.

1430
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:54,560
Speaker 3: I don't know what state of Miami is going to

1431
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 3: be in no at that point, Like, if they have

1432
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 3: some of the these brain farts, could they lose NC State?

1433
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 3: Could they lose a Virginia Tech on the road, Like

1434
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 3: if that happens and they take another loss before they

1435
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 3: get to Pitt, are they gonna care about Pitt?

1436
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 1: M h.

1437
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:16,759
Speaker 3: I'm crazy excited for that game too, and I probably

1438
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 3: have a bit of a rooting interest because you know,

1439
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 3: I was high on Pit at the start of the year.

1440
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 3: It didn't look as if it was going to go

1441
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 3: in that direction, but you know, it's kind of boomerang

1442
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 3: back around now with the new quarterback.

1443
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 1: So we will talk about that one to do course.

1444
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:32,640
Speaker 3: But let us know your answer to this question or

1445
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 3: any of these questions Solidverbo at gmail dot com or

1446
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 3: hit us up on social media.

1447
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 2: The second third tier end of the like last three

1448
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 2: or four weeks of the season, matchups that we could have,

1449
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:45,759
Speaker 2: like in terms of like here's I'll give you another one.

1450
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 1: I know the show's going on. I apologize, that's okay,

1451
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 1: it's our show.

1452
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 2: Tennessee Vanderbilt. Yeah, is there any chance that that's not

1453
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 2: a forty eight to forty five game? No, none, that's

1454
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 2: gonna be a perfect football experience unless you run a

1455
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 2: camp for linebackers or something.

1456
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 1: That's gonna be perfect. I can't wait for that game.

1457
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 1: It's gonna be amazing.

1458
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:09,799
Speaker 2: So like, yes, some disappointing teams have ruined our ability

1459
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 2: to have top ten matchups every week, and that's fine,

1460
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 2: but there's a lot of meat on this November bone.

1461
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:21,640
Speaker 2: Excuse me, the Govember colin. It's Diego's time bone. It's

1462
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 2: gonna be great.

1463
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 3: Well, even a game like the Egg Bowl, you know

1464
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 3: old Misssissippi State.

1465
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I hope so, but I'm not positive it

1466
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 1: will be.

1467
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm curious just because I think Misissippi State's

1468
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:34,600
Speaker 3: gonna have a lot to play for. They want to

1469
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 3: play spoiler. There's a chance they could play spoiler in

1470
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 3: that game. We didn't even mention the Iron Bowl. You know,

1471
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 3: Alabama is in a good spot, but that game tends

1472
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 3: to be weird.

1473
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:45,639
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

1474
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 3: Not necessarily gonna take that one to the bank as

1475
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,720
Speaker 3: being a close affair. But yeah, there are a bunch

1476
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 3: of games. These rivalries that I think we're gonna happen

1477
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 3: upon in week fourteen are incredible.

1478
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 1: They look amazing.

1479
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 2: Oh man, I have I have so many deep cut

1480
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,759
Speaker 2: wishes and hopes for the last like three four weeks

1481
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 2: of the season. Like New Mexico's not out of it.

1482
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 2: For the Mountain West, they need some help and they

1483
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 2: get San Diego State the last week of the season.

1484
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 2: It's time for Jason Eck and the boys to get

1485
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 2: it done. Oh, there's so many a lot great under

1486
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 2: the radar possibilities.

1487
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 1: It's great, all right, Dan, let's previous some games. Fucky

1488
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 1: Bird Special.

1489
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 3: We have two games that we're going to look at here.

1490
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 3: As you said, maybe the show's run a little bit long,

1491
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 3: but whatever, Okay, do whatever we want here the first

1492
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 3: one we're going to talk about. It's at a high noon,

1493
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 3: It's on ABC. It is number ten Notre Dame. They

1494
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 3: are now an eleven and a half point favorite on

1495
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 3: the road at the number twenty four Pit Panthers. I

1496
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 3: will add, just as a important personal note, m this

1497
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 3: game freaks the hell out of me every year. Sure,

1498
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 3: it freaks the hell out of me every year. I

1499
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 3: have a vivid memory of watching this game from Kate's parents' house.

1500
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 1: This is shortly after.

1501
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 3: We like officially became a couple, and shortly after I

1502
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 3: met the parents and did that ooh eleven back when

1503
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:16,640
Speaker 3: we were young and full of life. Yeah, that was

1504
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 3: the fifteen to twelve game that Notre Dame one at

1505
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 3: pitt tell me rescaming through like three hundred yards. But

1506
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 3: I just remember being in this very weird mental place

1507
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:29,680
Speaker 3: where on one hand, I am ready to jump out

1508
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 3: of my skin. On the other, I am self aware

1509
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 3: enough to realize that I in this moment, if I

1510
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,839
Speaker 3: want this to go well, I cannot act like a psycho.

1511
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:44,680
Speaker 3: That was a very interesting push pull for me and

1512
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 3: I still have scar tissue because of it. Notre Dame

1513
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 3: one that game, but they have lost in the past

1514
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:54,680
Speaker 3: to Pit. I see ten and a half on the

1515
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 3: road at Pitt. That scares me a lot, a lot.

1516
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 3: I'm probably not the most objective voice in this conversation,

1517
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 3: So why don't you lead us off here? How do

1518
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:06,639
Speaker 3: you feel about this game?

1519
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 2: Pitt coming off of bye I like that against the

1520
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:16,640
Speaker 2: you know, the biggest opponent on their schedule, and you know,

1521
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 2: start up a very difficult stretch for Pitt with also

1522
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 2: with Georgia Tech and Miami to finish out the season.

1523
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:23,679
Speaker 2: So I like that Pitt has rest. I like that

1524
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:25,599
Speaker 2: there is was the phrase you're looking for, like vim

1525
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,719
Speaker 2: and vigor when you know that's when you were young

1526
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 2: and spirited in twenty eleven. I think Pitt has some

1527
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 2: of that with a freshman quarterback. There's a lot inconsistent

1528
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:37,679
Speaker 2: about Pitt. There's a lot that they could do better,

1529
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 2: but it's the acc you can win games lacking in

1530
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 2: some areas of your of your roster. Sure, it's a

1531
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 2: lot of points. I think I like Notre Dame here.

1532
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,599
Speaker 2: I think Notre Dame is good enough to take advantage

1533
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 2: of flaws, and they've taken care of business in a

1534
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:57,639
Speaker 2: way that like. I appreciate when teams are boring strong,

1535
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 2: and Notre Dame has been boring strong, like the Boston

1536
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 2: College game. I guess aside that was not boring strong.

1537
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 2: That was otherwise plunker. Yeah, that was a clunker. The

1538
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 2: weather should be fine in Pittsburgh. I looked up my

1539
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 2: my low pressure systems and they're fine. I don't love

1540
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 2: I like even pitt playing in a big game at home.

1541
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 2: I don't love that they don't have a home field advantage.

1542
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 2: I don't love that even though you know they'll get

1543
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 2: people out for this game, there will be excitement there.

1544
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 2: It's just not the same if Notre Dame were playing

1545
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 2: Penn State or Michigan or Ohio State or any you know,

1546
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 2: it's just a different environment for a game like this.

1547
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 2: And so I like Notre Dame here to win this

1548
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 2: game by a couple touchdowns. My thought was something like

1549
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:48,599
Speaker 2: thirty three to twenty thirty five, twenty one. I think

1550
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 2: it will be competitive back and forth. I think Mason

1551
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:53,719
Speaker 2: Hinsch will make a couple plays that will have tie

1552
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 2: questioning whether or not Notre Dame's defense is truly fixed.

1553
01:15:58,240 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 1: But that happens weekly.

1554
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 2: By the way, the problem with Notre Dame is there's

1555
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 2: enough talent and aggression on this defense to complement a

1556
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 2: backfield where you can just have Jeremiah Love rush for

1557
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:12,640
Speaker 2: eighty eight yards at the drop of a hat, or

1558
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 2: Jeddarium Price just you know, rip off a thirty seven

1559
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 2: yard run where he just has a small lane and

1560
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 2: he's gone that that has opened things up enough for CJ. Carr,

1561
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 2: who again I think is one of the best dozen

1562
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 2: quarterbacks or so in the country. I don't know if

1563
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 2: Notre Dame has winter Wonders to compete at the very

1564
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 2: top of the sport at receiver yet in the way

1565
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 2: that they still I think need. But they have good receivers.

1566
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:38,640
Speaker 2: I just don't think they have killers there yet. But

1567
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 2: I think those good receivers are good enough to get

1568
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 2: enough against this pit defense if they can protect Cjcar enough,

1569
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 2: which I'm sure you'll talk about with Pitt's pass rush.

1570
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,600
Speaker 2: I just I think the fire of Notre Dame on

1571
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 2: both sides of the ball over four quarters will be

1572
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:59,559
Speaker 2: too much on the road in good weather thirty five

1573
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 2: to one.

1574
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, you bring up Mason Heinschel and

1575
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:07,600
Speaker 3: the move to Mason Hinschell has been the type of

1576
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 3: thing that has prompted a bunch of emails into solid

1577
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 3: verbal at gmail dot com. Of course, you know, anytime

1578
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 3: you make a move to a freshman, you never know

1579
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 3: what you're going to get. But this is a guy

1580
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:19,720
Speaker 3: who was hand picked from Kate Bell, their offensive coordinator.

1581
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 1: I went through his recruitment. He got offered us from

1582
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 1: five MAX schools, Liberty and Coastal Carolina. He ended up

1583
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 1: going to Pitt, So Pitt making the move to him

1584
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 1: was very much I think a sign of confidence in

1585
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 1: kid Bell as much as it was a vote of

1586
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 1: no confidence in e Y Holstein. They have now won

1587
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 1: their last five games. As you said, they are off

1588
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 1: or they were off a week ago, so they're coming

1589
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 1: off arrest advantage here. This is going to be a

1590
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 1: test though for Mason Heinschel, unlike any I think he

1591
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 1: has seen so far the season, because this defense is

1592
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 1: just dramatically better than the others that he's played against.

1593
01:17:57,320 --> 01:17:59,599
Speaker 1: He's going to see a lot of man coverage, about

1594
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:03,800
Speaker 1: twenty percent more than average. I am very curious to

1595
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 1: see what kind of scheme Chris Ash decides to draw

1596
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 1: up for this one. Because I went through the numbers.

1597
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 1: Heinschel is way better on the intermediate throws beyond ten

1598
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 1: yards and the deeper throws beyond twenty, way better at

1599
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 1: those than he is at the short stuff. And my theory,

1600
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 1: and again this is groundbreaking stuff. You can write this

1601
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:27,599
Speaker 1: down if you want to, Dan yep. But my theory

1602
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 1: is that when he has time to throw downfield, is

1603
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 1: really good. But the pit line is giving up a

1604
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 1: lot of pressure and so I think some of those

1605
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 1: shorter throws that don't grade out as well are coming

1606
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 1: under duress. And that's where I think this Notre Dame

1607
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 1: pass rush is going to play. I think a leading

1608
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 1: role probably the biggest key to this game. Pitt is

1609
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 1: mostly a one dimensional offense. They are not running the

1610
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 1: ball as well as I thought they might when I

1611
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 1: did my preseason preview. They're just not They're a one

1612
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 1: dimensional passing team. They are not going to win unless

1613
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 1: they can get some success through the air. And I

1614
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 1: think Chris Ash and Notre Dame knows it. So how

1615
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 1: they scheme that up? What that looks like? Do they

1616
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 1: try to blitz? So they try to drop back and

1617
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 1: just make them to throw, make them throw short. I

1618
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 1: don't know what that scheme looks like, but it feels

1619
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 1: to me like if you look at the numbers, if

1620
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 1: you watch a Pitt all this season, it's fairly well

1621
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 1: telegraphed the type of stuff they're going to do great,

1622
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 1: So I think that's advantage Notre Dame, and the flip

1623
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 1: side is equally as interesting.

1624
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:28,640
Speaker 3: How does Pitt try to cover their bases against this

1625
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 3: Notre Dame offense? Their defense so far the season has

1626
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 3: gotten a lot of pressure, presumably because they blitz forty

1627
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:40,720
Speaker 3: percent of the time and opponent drops back, but otherwise

1628
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 3: it's a very zone heavy scheme. It is the most

1629
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 3: zone heavy defense in all of college football. Eighty five

1630
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 3: percent of the time they are dropping into some kind

1631
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 3: of zone, very stout against the run, which should benefit

1632
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:55,559
Speaker 3: them well in a game like this, but I think

1633
01:19:55,600 --> 01:20:00,679
Speaker 3: in order to win it is some combination of HEV blitzing,

1634
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 3: disguising your coverage and confusing CJ. Carr maybe to force

1635
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 3: some kind of mistake, and you know, keying on the

1636
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 3: run to not be gashed by Jeremiah Love and or

1637
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 3: Jadarian Price. I think they good enough to do one

1638
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 3: of those things. I don't think they're good enough to

1639
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 3: do all of them right. And that's sort of where

1640
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 3: I come down on the Notre Dame side, or why

1641
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 3: I'm coming down on the Notre Dame side. To me,

1642
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 3: this looks like a recipe for a big game from

1643
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:30,599
Speaker 3: Notre Dame's tight end Eli Reridan. I think Jeremiah Love

1644
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 3: catching passes out of the backfield is very dangerous. I

1645
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 3: mean it's dangerous in general, but it's going to be

1646
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 3: even more dangerous for Pitt in this game, given the

1647
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 3: way that they play. I think those are the types

1648
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 3: of things that end up having a really big impact here.

1649
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 3: Notre Dame's gonna win this game. I'm not laying eleven

1650
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 3: and a half points though on the road. I just

1651
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 3: have far too much scar tissue for that. Something like

1652
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 3: thirty one to twenty four feels about right to me.

1653
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 3: I don't think the Notre Dame defense is going to

1654
01:20:57,160 --> 01:21:00,760
Speaker 3: hold him down completely. I think Mason Einchell and Pitt

1655
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 3: will score, and I think maybe maybe it's a late touchdown.

1656
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 3: I don't know if it feels thirty one twenty four

1657
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 3: the full way through, but.

1658
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 1: I have pit covering this game. I think it's a

1659
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 1: bad move, man.

1660
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 2: The more I even think about and hearing you talk

1661
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 2: about it, Notre Dame schedule as such where they need

1662
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 2: to put everything they have into this game, right, So

1663
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 2: Notre Dame. It's coming off of Navy, which they you know,

1664
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 2: just absolutely shocked and odd. I think there's a chance

1665
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 2: Notre Dame wins this game fifty two to thirteen.

1666
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:32,599
Speaker 1: It's entirely possible.

1667
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 3: And you know, I think I was texting with our

1668
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 3: friend Tim Murray from Visen. I think they'll them apart

1669
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 3: before we hit go. And I think Tim feels similarly,

1670
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 3: but he's always telling me, like follow the points spread,

1671
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:44,719
Speaker 3: like the points spread actually does tell a story, whether

1672
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 3: you better or not right, And I hear you, But

1673
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:48,679
Speaker 3: there is also the emotional side.

1674
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 1: Of me as a fan. I hear you. You know,

1675
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 1: we love this sport.

1676
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 3: We kind of live, breathe and eat this sport this

1677
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:59,599
Speaker 3: time of year, the whole year throughout, and I cannot

1678
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 3: put my emotions on the bench here.

1679
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 2: I know it, man, I know it. There is there

1680
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 2: is something about like pittscripting an amazing first drive and

1681
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:09,560
Speaker 2: they're playing with tempo and they go up seven to

1682
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 2: nothing on a great first drive.

1683
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 1: Oh you can count on that happening.

1684
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:17,479
Speaker 2: You losing your mind? Yeah, Notre Dame being patient, and like,

1685
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 2: I think Pitt's good, but Pitt has played the the

1686
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 2: dregs of the ACC to sort of turn this season around.

1687
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 2: With Mason Heiitschel, they made the move, but it's Boston College,

1688
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 2: a Poorlyague coached Florida State team obviously an underwhelming one.

1689
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:35,480
Speaker 2: Syracuse with Ricky Collins. NC State has like a horrendous

1690
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 2: defense this year in Stanford, and so I'm holding nothing

1691
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 2: against Pitt, but I just think who they've beaten to

1692
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 2: get to this point does not necessarily represent what they

1693
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:50,599
Speaker 2: are or are not other than better than those teams.

1694
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 3: Seven point thirty on ABC, number eleven, Texas on the

1695
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:59,759
Speaker 3: road at number five Georgia, Georgia favored by six points.

1696
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 3: You may recall these teams met twice last year. George

1697
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 3: got him twice, beat him once in Austin, and then

1698
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:11,480
Speaker 3: beat him another time in Atlanta for the SEC Championship.

1699
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 3: I mentioned this earlier as well, but the range of

1700
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 3: outcomes here for Texas, just in terms of its season,

1701
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 3: not this game, but the season for Texas could go

1702
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 3: a variety of different ways. If they run the table,

1703
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:26,719
Speaker 3: they're going to end up beating two top five teams.

1704
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 3: They're probably playing for the SEC going to the playoff.

1705
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 3: If they lose, it's lost number three playoff hopes probably

1706
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 3: go up and smoke. Who knows what happens the rest

1707
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 3: of the way. This one is complicated I think by

1708
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 3: the fact that it's a road game, and when I

1709
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 3: was trying to go through and.

1710
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 1: Or made easier or made easier, I don't know.

1711
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, but emotionally as I was trying to sort my

1712
01:23:54,400 --> 01:24:00,080
Speaker 3: way through this game, Texas has had some difficulty.

1713
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 1: On the road. You know.

1714
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 3: They had a game out selling Yeah, the game of

1715
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 3: Ohio State, which I don't really hold against them, but.

1716
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:09,720
Speaker 2: I mean they did not look good on offense, investing

1717
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:13,520
Speaker 2: a ton in this offense and having blue chips exclusively

1718
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 2: on this offense and scored one touchdown. It's a week one,

1719
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 2: this week one. But then they lose to Florida on

1720
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 2: the road. Florida since fired its coach.

1721
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 3: The Kentucky game was close, that was losible, the Mississippi

1722
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 3: State game that was yeah. You know, those are all

1723
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 3: one score games, So I am I am just curious

1724
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 3: as we talk about this, how much it factors in

1725
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:38,520
Speaker 3: for you that this is another road spot for Texas.

1726
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 3: They haven't been wonderful on the road in some cases

1727
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 3: against teams that they should have we would expect beat

1728
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 3: a lot more easily.

1729
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, this offense arch Manning, whatever you

1730
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 2: want to say, has improved over the past few weeks,

1731
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:55,719
Speaker 2: but it also doesn't shine the brightest when the lights

1732
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 2: are brightest, and that has been on the road, that

1733
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 2: has been in the sec that has been against the

1734
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:04,120
Speaker 2: best teams and the best defenses that they've placed. It's

1735
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 2: just has not been an offense that has held up

1736
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 2: its end of the bargain in these cases. And so

1737
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 2: to go and play Georgia, a Georgia team who has

1738
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:16,200
Speaker 2: you know, a big spot. A couple weeks ago in

1739
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 2: against Florida, they finished that one out. The offense hasn't

1740
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:21,600
Speaker 2: looked great in world beating all season long, but it

1741
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 2: kind of feels like they're peaking right now, which you'd like.

1742
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 2: Against the defense as strong as Texas is. The game

1743
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 2: is in Athens. Texas has not been able to play

1744
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:33,640
Speaker 2: its best football in the road at all, which might

1745
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 2: be even under selling the situation.

1746
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 1: And I just.

1747
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:41,960
Speaker 2: I haven't seen anything from this passing game against good teams,

1748
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 2: especially on the road. Like I think Vanderbilt's defense is

1749
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 2: kind of falling apart, and Texas, for whatever reason, their

1750
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 2: defensive game plan of that game was real screw in

1751
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 2: the second half, letting Vandy back in it. I just

1752
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:55,759
Speaker 2: I don't think there's a lot to trust about Texas

1753
01:25:55,800 --> 01:26:01,200
Speaker 2: in a big game in this moment, is there? I

1754
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 2: like Georgia here. What's the number again?

1755
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 1: I got it at six right now? Yeah?

1756
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:10,679
Speaker 2: I see the thing is picking against the Texas defense

1757
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 2: and getting that many points is very attractive because the

1758
01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:20,639
Speaker 2: Texas defense can be excellent, but it just hasn't seemed

1759
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 2: like enough too often this season. So I think Georgia

1760
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 2: wins this game by seven to nine points. So I'm

1761
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 2: gonna give those points. Wow, twenty three to fourteen, twenty

1762
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:32,440
Speaker 2: one to fourteen.

1763
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 1: Okay, like a lower score.

1764
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 2: I don't think I think it's lower scoring. I don't

1765
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 2: think Georgia gets to twenty eight. I don't think any

1766
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 2: winner gets to twenty eight. But yeah, lower scoring here,

1767
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:46,480
Speaker 2: twenty four sixteen, But I think Georgia covers.

1768
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 3: Well, let me put it to you this way, Okay, Okay,

1769
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 3: I am not going to do my locks on this

1770
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 3: episode because we're already like an hour thirty okay, and

1771
01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 3: I am still receiving applications from the verballer hood for

1772
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 3: my little reverse thing, okay, of course. But with that

1773
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 3: being said, this is a game under consideration, and I

1774
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 3: would say, what's really cool about this one just from

1775
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:15,800
Speaker 3: a narrative perspective. If Texas wins, it's because Arch banning

1776
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 3: is a really good day through the year, because that's

1777
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 3: where you get Georgia.

1778
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 1: I think it's the only way.

1779
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:21,680
Speaker 3: I think it's the only way. And Arch winning this

1780
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:23,760
Speaker 3: game on the road would be like a week of

1781
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 3: content for us. Right to further the point that I

1782
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:30,680
Speaker 3: mentioned earlier about catapaulting one's trustworthiness, If Arch goes to

1783
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:32,599
Speaker 3: Athens and wins, that helps arches stock.

1784
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think agree, it helps anybody stock, any boy stock.

1785
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 3: If we zoom in a little bit more though, what's

1786
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 3: really interesting is the battle that I think emerges here

1787
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 3: in the trenches between what I would describe as the

1788
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 3: movable object and the stoppable force. Okay, Texas is one

1789
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty second in pressure rate allowed, Georgia is

1790
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 3: ninety nine.

1791
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 1: That creating pressure.

1792
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 3: Whoever wins that is going to win this game, right,

1793
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 3: Whoever wins that side of it is what this comes

1794
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 3: down to, because if they're able to get pressure on Arch,

1795
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 3: if Arch isn't able to be successful through the air, Frankly,

1796
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 3: Texas has not been that successful on the ground at

1797
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:13,640
Speaker 3: all this season, let alone the fact that they're going

1798
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 3: up against the Georgia defense. It's pretty good against the run,

1799
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 3: so they have to throw it here. And if Georgia

1800
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 3: can force the issues, beat him up and prevent him

1801
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 3: from having time back there to pick him apart, then

1802
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 3: I think that's the game.

1803
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 1: I agree.

1804
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 2: I mean, look to be fair though, to Georgia, even

1805
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 2: at their best, this was not a huge like send

1806
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:33,640
Speaker 2: pressure off the edge defense. It's much more read and

1807
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:37,679
Speaker 2: react and disguise and just your guys against our guys,

1808
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 2: and we think we have more talent and we have

1809
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 2: more playmakers like this has not been like no, no, no,

1810
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:46,720
Speaker 2: a ferocious blitzing team. They picked their spots, they picked

1811
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:49,480
Speaker 2: the think this is not the intention of their defense necessarily.

1812
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:51,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, fiftieth or something fifty fourth.

1813
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 3: I just looked at the number before nationally in terms

1814
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 3: of how often they're blitzing per drop back. So it's

1815
01:28:56,400 --> 01:29:01,080
Speaker 3: a they're not a pit right right. Pitt does it

1816
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 3: like a lot forty percent of the time. George is

1817
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 3: more like thirty percent of the time something like that.

1818
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 1: It's a lot.

1819
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:08,680
Speaker 2: I think that a lot of that is protecting youth too, right,

1820
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 2: not leaving a ton of dudes on islands or with

1821
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 2: a ton of space.

1822
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:14,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I guess if we're talking of it in

1823
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 3: these terms, the Georgia line, if you flip the script

1824
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:19,679
Speaker 3: a little bit, the Georgia line's way better in pass protection.

1825
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 3: I also think the Texas defense is gettible through the

1826
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 3: air that should benefit Gunner stocked In.

1827
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 2: Ultimately, that might be too strong a word, gettible. It

1828
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:31,639
Speaker 2: is good Texas defense. Beat up the Texas defense, but yeah.

1829
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 3: But it is gettable through the air. Like if you're

1830
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 3: going to attack this defense, that's how you attack them.

1831
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 1: Okay. In my opinion, I have a lot more faith

1832
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 1: in Georgia and Gunner stocked In than I do Texas.

1833
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:47,360
Speaker 3: And so I've got this one somewhere around like thirty

1834
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:48,720
Speaker 3: to twenty three.

1835
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 1: My other wild card is Mike Bobo. Is that how

1836
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 1: we're saying it now Bbo. Mike Bobo.

1837
01:29:57,200 --> 01:29:59,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike Bobo in a big game against a top

1838
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:05,439
Speaker 2: D defense, good, Mike Bolbo. Sure is fun. But I

1839
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:05,800
Speaker 2: don't know.

1840
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:12,440
Speaker 1: You listen to enough Georgia fans who've been through those wars.

1841
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1842
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:16,640
Speaker 2: It's a concern point with me that we could get

1843
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:18,800
Speaker 2: to the middle of the third quarter and you look

1844
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:22,400
Speaker 2: at you look internally at your college football brain, You're.

1845
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:24,320
Speaker 1: Like, what is he even trying to do right now?

1846
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:26,240
Speaker 1: What is he? What is the point of that.

1847
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 3: I've been reading our discord messages. I think you're not

1848
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 3: alone in that one.

1849
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:33,200
Speaker 2: Right, So that that worries me, even at home, even

1850
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 2: with what has been a growing defense, even with what

1851
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:37,840
Speaker 2: has been like, you know, the running game has been

1852
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:39,639
Speaker 2: sort of hit and miss, but the emergence of Chauncey

1853
01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:41,800
Speaker 2: Bowen's obviously, Nate Fraser had a good week last week.

1854
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:44,240
Speaker 2: There's a lot to really really like about this Georgia team.

1855
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:48,679
Speaker 2: But there is one headset in the booth that still

1856
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:52,680
Speaker 2: makes me think twice about Georgia in a big game.

1857
01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I'm doing it anyway. Yeah, twenty

1858
01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:57,400
Speaker 2: four to sixteen, Georgia, why.

1859
01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 3: Don't we close out on this front, Dan, Okay, So

1860
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:05,240
Speaker 3: normally we do this on a Thursday. I wanted to

1861
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:07,599
Speaker 3: do it this week on a Tuesday, just to make

1862
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 3: sure that everybody knew what they were in for.

1863
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:14,480
Speaker 1: Okay, in week twelve seven, under the Radar Games.

1864
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:16,759
Speaker 3: I'm not doing picks. I am not doing a preview.

1865
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:18,760
Speaker 3: I am simply telling you why they are under the

1866
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:21,240
Speaker 3: radar on why you should give a damn Yeah.

1867
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 2: And if you have a cable or television provider live

1868
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:27,880
Speaker 2: television provider that allows you to do a quadbox with

1869
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:33,160
Speaker 2: the ESPN family of networks. First of all, congratulations Fubo subscribers.

1870
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 2: I've heard of you for a day and a half.

1871
01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:41,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. And second of all, how how long are we

1872
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:42,800
Speaker 1: going to have to wait for YouTube TV? I mean,

1873
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:45,680
Speaker 1: it's just ridiculous, It's so stupid. Come on, ESPN. This

1874
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 1: is so if you do subscribe to YouTube TV.

1875
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:49,479
Speaker 3: I don't know if you got the note about this,

1876
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 3: but they're not giving you the free twenty dollars credit.

1877
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:55,640
Speaker 3: They're not I got an email about this, Yeah, but

1878
01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 3: you gotta go claim it. Oh okay, So they're they're

1879
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:03,599
Speaker 3: leaving the burden to their customers to go out there

1880
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 3: and click on the I did it earlier.

1881
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:06,800
Speaker 1: You just have to click a button and go through it.

1882
01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 3: But they're obviously banking on people not collecting their twenty

1883
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:14,120
Speaker 3: dollars credits, so I'm advising all my clients make sure

1884
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:16,360
Speaker 3: you check your email claim it. Yeah, click on the

1885
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:18,160
Speaker 3: link and then click to claim the credit to get

1886
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 3: your free twenty bucks. They got to figure this out, man,

1887
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:20,719
Speaker 3: I'm tired.

1888
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:23,719
Speaker 1: It's crap. You can also text Tie for illegal links

1889
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 1: to these games, right six to one, L continue the number.

1890
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:29,960
Speaker 3: I have found many an illegal link and I will

1891
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:30,840
Speaker 3: start tweeting those out.

1892
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:33,200
Speaker 1: I don't really care. You need them sometimes. Yeah, I'm

1893
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:34,719
Speaker 1: not being paid by any of these guys, all.

1894
01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:38,440
Speaker 3: Right, High noon, FS one Arizona at Cincinnati.

1895
01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:40,000
Speaker 1: Cincinnati is favored by six.

1896
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:43,840
Speaker 3: This is interesting to me because if Cincinnati wins out,

1897
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:46,200
Speaker 3: they more than likely play for the Big twelve title.

1898
01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:49,960
Speaker 3: But there is a possible look ahead here with BYU

1899
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:53,640
Speaker 3: on deck. So just keep this one back corner of

1900
01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 3: your mind.

1901
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:54,679
Speaker 1: Okay.

1902
01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 3: Also high nud on Fox number twenty one. Michigan a

1903
01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:01,040
Speaker 3: ten point favorite on the road at north Western. I

1904
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:03,679
Speaker 3: think Michigan is better. I think Michigan will win going

1905
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:06,679
Speaker 3: away but under the radar and kind of cool because

1906
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 3: they're playing this one at Rayley Field.

1907
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:11,439
Speaker 2: Okay, Planet at riglic Go get pizza at zazaz Zaza.

1908
01:33:11,439 --> 01:33:14,960
Speaker 2: How do you spell that za zas they make what

1909
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:16,559
Speaker 2: I have found to be the only good New York

1910
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:17,679
Speaker 2: style pizza in Chicago.

1911
01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:19,920
Speaker 1: Wow, other than you're on my own, other than your own,

1912
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 1: my own.

1913
01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:24,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, twelve forty five sec Network Arkansas on the road

1914
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:27,240
Speaker 3: at LSU. I have this one at six and a half.

1915
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 3: I don't know if that changed. I have absolutely no

1916
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:31,360
Speaker 3: idea what's going to happen in this game.

1917
01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:33,800
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what's going to happen. Do you want

1918
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:36,640
Speaker 2: me to tell you? Historically speaking, LSU either wins this

1919
01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:40,599
Speaker 2: game by thirty five or three. So if you like LSU,

1920
01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:42,639
Speaker 2: they're going to cover it easily. If you're not sure,

1921
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:45,240
Speaker 2: if you like LSU, you know, making the quarterback switch

1922
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 2: last week, you're you know, I'm sure of a lame

1923
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 2: duck program taking on another lame duck program. It's gonna

1924
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:51,400
Speaker 2: be a three point game either way.

1925
01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:53,639
Speaker 1: I just think it could be really entertaining. Yeah, which

1926
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:54,920
Speaker 1: is why I put it on the list. Here four

1927
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:58,439
Speaker 1: o'clock EESP and you watch it however you can.

1928
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:00,240
Speaker 3: I'll see if I can find an illegal stream. Okay,

1929
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:06,320
Speaker 3: Memphis at ECU. Ooh, I like this quiet ECU successful year,

1930
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:10,720
Speaker 3: very successful year. ECU is favored by two and a

1931
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:14,519
Speaker 3: half points. Interestingly, Yeah, So the first question is how

1932
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:17,280
Speaker 3: does Memphis respond after losing last week to two lane.

1933
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:21,040
Speaker 3: The second question is, and it's not more of a question,

1934
01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:23,880
Speaker 3: but it's just more something to put on your radar.

1935
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:25,439
Speaker 1: It's currently flying under.

1936
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:30,080
Speaker 3: Many There is a possible scenario that would put ECU

1937
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:32,519
Speaker 3: in the American title game if they went out and

1938
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:35,519
Speaker 3: if they finished seven to one in conference. And I

1939
01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:39,960
Speaker 3: say possible because there are still a whole range of possibilities.

1940
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:41,960
Speaker 1: In the American I don't want to commit to that.

1941
01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:44,840
Speaker 3: But if ECU wins out, if they finished seven to

1942
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:47,680
Speaker 3: one in conference, there's a whole series of other tiebreakers

1943
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Speaker 3: and computer rankings that could give them the No, I

1944
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:52,600
Speaker 3: don't have access to those computers. I don't know what

1945
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:55,680
Speaker 3: that looks like. But U having the pirates having a

1946
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:57,479
Speaker 3: really good year, having a really good year, and they

1947
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Speaker 3: have a shot to get a top standings.

1948
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Speaker 1: So let's just leap this.

1949
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:05,120
Speaker 2: This game also could affect how many times you send

1950
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 2: me a fake story about Ryan Silverfield taking the job

1951
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:13,280
Speaker 2: from a user name like d's Jugs for forty seven

1952
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Speaker 2: but has Ross Dellinger's picture as his picture.

1953
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Speaker 3: That was so good and it was definitely a tandem

1954
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Speaker 3: that worked on that.

1955
01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:22,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course because it was Ross Dellinger.

1956
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:25,400
Speaker 3: And then there was another fake account that looked real

1957
01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:29,040
Speaker 3: that retweeted it, and so they got like double the boost.

1958
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:31,680
Speaker 3: They were gaming the algorithm. Everybody fell for it for

1959
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:34,080
Speaker 3: like ten minutes, and then it was like, oh.

1960
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Speaker 1: Crap, didn't look at the username.

1961
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Speaker 2: It literally it wasn't d's Jugs for forty seven, but

1962
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:42,840
Speaker 2: it was well, it wasn't even They didn't even like

1963
01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:46,519
Speaker 2: try to do like Capital Eyes as the L's and Dellinger.

1964
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:47,799
Speaker 2: It wasn't even that situation.

1965
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Speaker 3: Now, I was up at Mama H's we were eating dinner,

1966
01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:51,800
Speaker 3: and I'm like, man, this is going to break my

1967
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:52,519
Speaker 3: coaching game.

1968
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:54,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is going to break the game. What do

1969
01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:56,680
Speaker 1: I do. I'm just I guess I'll just leave it go.

1970
01:35:56,800 --> 01:36:00,920
Speaker 3: I don't know fake account anyway that game. But by

1971
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 3: the way, get to the three games. If there happened

1972
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:07,120
Speaker 3: to be like an incredible newsbreaker, anonymously named D's Jugs

1973
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Speaker 3: four forty seven.

1974
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Speaker 1: I would be here for it.

1975
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Speaker 3: Continue seven pm, ESPN two if you could watch it.

1976
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:16,400
Speaker 3: Number thirteen Utah nine point favorite on the road at Baylor.

1977
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:18,839
Speaker 3: Utah is still in the hunt for the Big twelve.

1978
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 3: They do need some help. Also, this is a spot

1979
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:27,200
Speaker 3: they could overlook. I don't think any likely, but it's

1980
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:30,880
Speaker 3: an offense second score. Maybe Utah is a bit stuck

1981
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:33,320
Speaker 3: in the mud. Maybe it doesn't all fire on all cylinders,

1982
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:34,960
Speaker 3: and Baylor finds a way to get a big lead.

1983
01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:36,840
Speaker 1: Who knows. I'm just saying keep that one in the

1984
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:37,439
Speaker 1: back of your mud.

1985
01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:40,160
Speaker 2: And this is an actual Big twelve matchup instead of

1986
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:42,839
Speaker 2: the fake Big twelve mess up. Yeah, correct, Okay, Continue

1987
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:44,920
Speaker 2: seven thirty ACC Network if you could watch it.

1988
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:48,760
Speaker 3: Virginia Tech on the road at Florida State, Florida stay

1989
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:52,120
Speaker 3: favorite by twelve and a half points. FSU two wins

1990
01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:55,000
Speaker 3: away from getting Bowl eligible. This is the most winnable

1991
01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:57,360
Speaker 3: game left. I would also add, if you lose a.

1992
01:36:57,320 --> 01:37:00,519
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech, then perhaps the Mike Norvel conversation gets kicked

1993
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:01,799
Speaker 1: up a little bit louder.

1994
01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:03,640
Speaker 3: They have said they're going to do their end of

1995
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 3: season evaluation for Nervel. So I don't expect any kind

1996
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:09,320
Speaker 3: of I Meaneason firing, but you lose the tech here

1997
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:12,040
Speaker 3: that could definitely seal a fad or two.

1998
01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:16,439
Speaker 2: I think they're evaluating the stock portfolios of their biggest donors,

1999
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:20,080
Speaker 2: not necessarily evaluating the job he's done these past couple seasons.

2000
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Speaker 3: And last but not least seven to forty five sec

2001
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Speaker 3: network if he can watch. Yes, Mississippi State on the

2002
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:29,000
Speaker 3: road at number twenty two Missouri.

2003
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:31,559
Speaker 1: Missouri a six and a half point favorite.

2004
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:34,879
Speaker 3: We got two teams here who got smoked last week.

2005
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 3: A question for me is could Mississippi State steal one?

2006
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:40,559
Speaker 3: If so, they would get to six wins, which would

2007
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:41,160
Speaker 3: be a nice story.

2008
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:45,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Blake shape and hurt last week. Obviously that changes

2009
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:48,880
Speaker 2: his or their season's calculus. It was what Camaro Taylor

2010
01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:53,400
Speaker 2: who came in yes from Mississippi State. Yeah, this one

2011
01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:56,320
Speaker 2: just feels like entertainment to me, Like I might not

2012
01:37:56,400 --> 01:37:58,439
Speaker 2: watch the first half and then I see the score

2013
01:37:58,479 --> 01:38:00,320
Speaker 2: and they're like, well, this is going up one of.

2014
01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:01,920
Speaker 1: The TVs because this is gonna get weird.

2015
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Speaker 3: I don't know why I said number twenty two Missouri.

2016
01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 3: They fell out of the top twenty five. I guess

2017
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:08,559
Speaker 3: my document was wrong, but nonetheless none a lot of

2018
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:14,320
Speaker 3: it's like an interesting Yes, Missoo's running back room is

2019
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:17,760
Speaker 3: going to need so much oxygen after what they're going

2020
01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:20,200
Speaker 3: to do on the ground, win or lose to Mississippi State.

2021
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Speaker 1: Why don't we leave it there? Dan a longer than

2022
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Speaker 1: usual episode, but we had a lot to unpack. I

2023
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Speaker 1: had a lot of fun.

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2029
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Speaker 1: had a lot to discuss, and it's a pleasure to

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Speaker 2: people are shoveling their walks as it's snowing in early November.

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Speaker 3: a sleigh ride. Make some snowballs. Can you make a snowman?

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Speaker 2: Yet, it did come down a good amount five six

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Speaker 2: inches last night, So there's you.

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Speaker 1: Got five inches of snow last night. It was a lot. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll send you some pictures Jesus. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: College Football Playoff rankings.

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