WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: The Grand Scheme? 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:05.200 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:06.800 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:12.039 Cowboys. 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:16.599 This He's Talking Cowboys, springing live from. 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:22.599 The Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star in Frisco. 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:27.560 Take boarders here, let's got kitson, Eddy paint tuxdown. 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:33.680 And now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez, 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:41.320 and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:44.760 It's an off season edition of Talking Cowboys presented by 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:47.400 Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco, 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:50.640 Texas and the s W bat See Studios. 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:51.600 Welcome in, everybody. 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:54.040 We've got the whole almost the whole cast and crew 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:55.600 ready for you to rock. We got three of those guys. 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:58.760 We've got Patrick Noc Walker, Chosh Rodriguez, I'm Kyle Yeomans 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:01.560 with Chris Beam in the back. Welcome in everybody. As always, 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:04.240 Talking Cowboys presented by a Black Rifle Coffee Company, the 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:06.680 official coffee of the Dallas Cowboys. 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:09.200 Got my black Rifle right here, Patrick's got it. 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:14.840 Hit the hell. Yeah, got to make sure she's in 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:17.840 hold on she said. Morning. Okay, here we go this 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:18.440 for you. 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:19.520 Get closer, get closer. 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:25.920 Yeah, quality quality do we have a lot of those 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:27.320 in the back now or did you just pick that 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:29.000 up on the way in no j r. 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:32.120 Yeah, I had him from Christmas. I forgot that there. 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:34.800 They've been in there. You're welcome to gred. You go 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:36.520 for it. It's white or three of. 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:39.039 Them that might be it might be needed later today 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:40.759 for the wrong day ahead. 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:41.839 He sounds good. 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:44.640 Good ones, black rifle coffee. We can all share. 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:47.760 Yeah, you're right. Damn, it sounds like a slogan, ready 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:48.200 to happen. 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:49.160 Let's do it. 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:51.720 We got to be back. You guys had a great 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:55.280 show last week. Missed you guys. I was out mobile 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:56.880 with the Senior Bowl. Had a lot of fun out 0:01:56.880 --> 0:01:59.760 there and got to see uh put eyes to prospects, 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:02.240 get to really get to know a lot of those 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:03.520 guys as well, which was cool. 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:04.160 That's awesome, man. 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:05.440 We'll dive into the draft bit. 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:08.320 Yeah, they ended up being really cool that. I mean, 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:10.960 some of those interviews were just incredible. And that's not 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:13.920 on our side. It's on the prospects side. Some of 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:15.680 the stories and some of the things that you get 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:17.560 to learn, and that's part of the draft process that 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:20.880 I like. Because everybody's got the film at this point 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:24.880 with YouTube and the streaming services that everybody has, like 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:27.600 you've got some type of film, whether it's All twenty 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:31.560 two or TV copy, so everybody can kind of evaluate players. 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:34.880 But that's something that I guess our access within the 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.160 building and within the organization is different. We get to 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:39.120 kind of get to know these guys a little. 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:40.440 Bit to evaluate the character as well. 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:42.960 Yeah, and that's what these teams place a lot of 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:44.840 stock into as well, So. 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:46.399 We'll talk about that a little bit later. 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:49.200 I really enjoy listening to the Draft show whenever you're 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:51.400 interviewing these guys and like it starts off as a 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:54.120 very like kind of casual like getting to know you, 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:54.520 sort of. 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:57.799 Like what's the week been like right right, the early questions, But. 0:02:57.800 --> 0:02:59.680 Once they start to open up and have fun and 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:02.720 like that's really the best part of those shows is 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:05.120 whenever they're actually like joking around and like, Okay, this 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:07.440 is a chill. Because I'm sure they're on alert at 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:10.680 all times during the draft process, during the scouting process 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:12.320 that they're like, okay, well I have to kind of 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:14.800 be buttoned up here. But once they start talking to Kyle, 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:15.200 they're like. 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:17.280 Okay, that's fine. Yeah, they always let's chill out a 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:21.360 little bit. They a comfort uh interview. 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:23.560 Here, Oh thank you, I appreciate it. The first thing 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:24.880 I tell him is like, Hey, we're just going to 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:26.440 have a conversation. That's all it is. 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:28.800 This isn't an interview, this isn't a job interview. Let's 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:31.760 have a conversation. And I think Nick Harris does a 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:32.760 really good job at that too. 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:36.280 Of he knows a lot of those guys too, like 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:40.360 he's either covered them before or watched them in certain 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:42.600 situations before. So he always does a nice job of 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:45.120 kind of opening up with those guys and getting them 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:47.880 to kind of go deep into their past too. 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:50.000 Because I mean, out of the guys. 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:53.480 That we interviewed probably eight or nine prospects for the 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:55.520 Draft show last week, and I think six of the 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:57.600 eight or nine were all Texas guys. 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:00.000 Wow, it's like there's a lot of talent around here. 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:02.120 We've gotten the chance to see them grow up a 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:05.240 little bit as well. So and Texas is the most 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:06.320 represented state. 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:07.440 In the Super Bowl as well. 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:10.400 Shocker, all right, it's not shocker. 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:14.040 Yeah, I mean quality football gets played in Texas. 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:17.039 I will say that it's the law objective. Yeah, objectively speaking. 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:18.680 I mean, this is objective, This is no this is 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:23.360 just fun southern rivalry, right, So we're not here for that. 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:24.920 California football talking. 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:27.840 Okay, although California does have a good football program as 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:30.000 far as bringing kids up through the rings. 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:32.200 But when you're talking about a good old. 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:35.120 Fashioned Southern football, it's Georgia, is it's Texas, you know, 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:38.560 it's Florida, Florida, absolutely, Florida, especially South Florida. Yeah, what 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:43.520 about Princeton, So yeah, Florida, Georgia, Texas. Those are your 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:47.039 your good farm states as far as like where you 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:49.320 start the kids out young and bring them up through 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:52.000 the programs, you know, and a lot of times that's 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:56.240 why you have so many quality Texas football kids that 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:58.040 go to young men, turn a young men, turn to 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:00.960 grow men, and you know they they be come all Americans, 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:02.680 and you know they find their way into the league 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:04.479 in the same food. You know, Georgia talent, same for 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:08.320 Florida talent. So just thankful that that talent that grows 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:11.800 up in Florida departs Florida, he goes to Georgia, he 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:12.560 goes to George. 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:15.200 I did have fun one of the guys that I 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:18.839 wouldn't mind Dallas at least exploring in the first round. 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:22.760 Come on out of the Uga, Come on Bulldogs. Dylan 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:27.000 Everett talked to him last week. He was great. He 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.320 was He was great on and off the camera. He 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:29.920 was really cool. 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:32.680 And we chatted for maybe two minutes before the interview, 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:34.680 and then we knocked out the interview, and then he 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:36.680 stayed and chatted like another two and a half. 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:38.480 Three minutes after the interview with football. 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:40.120 He didn't have to do football like you. 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:41.760 Yeah, very smart kid. 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:43.600 He would do will And did you get a chance 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:46.479 to even if a sodebar with CJ wasj there? 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:47.840 No, wasn't there. 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:50.159 Okay, but a couple of guys to keep an eye on. 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:51.719 And we may get to see him at the Combine 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:52.039 here in. 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:52.560 A couple of weeks. 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:54.360 Yeah, will, because we will be there. 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:54.800 Darn right. 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:57.679 We did book our travel, baby, let's go in the books. 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:01.239 Let's be an Indy, Let's go a swell time. 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:02.000 I can't wait. 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:03.400 Stay right back here. 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:06.400 You and T football, Georgia football. We're coming to Indy 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:07.200 for the combine. 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:09.600 Why you and T football? 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:14.000 Why we try to segue because we were talking Texas football, 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:14.799 Georgia football. 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.680 So I specified the university. 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:19.680 You know, we'll keep going. 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:25.520 Let's get give you an opportunity to get to you didn't. 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:29.359 So quite a bit of news and notes. Most of 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:31.080 it is kind of a recap, so let's just lead 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:33.880 with let's just shrink it to the most important, which 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:36.640 is who is on board. We touched based on this 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:40.640 last week, but definitely reconfirming that Ryan Smith is in 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:43.040 the building. He is officially hired pen to paper as 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:47.120 the Cowboys new defensive back sat slash secondary coach, so 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:50.320 he's in there. Keep in mind he's coming from Arizona 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:54.080 as their former pass game coordinator and their cornerbacks coach. 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:57.400 So good get for Christian Parker and Man, I gotta 0:06:57.440 --> 0:06:59.000 say Christian Parker is off to the races. 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:00.760 He's not wasted any time, not at all. 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:04.200 But also in not wasting any time, he's also being 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:08.520 exceptionally thorough. We credited Brian Schottenheimer for being thorough in 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:13.960 the candidacy interviews interviews for defensive coordinator nine candidates Man 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:18.640 Christian Parker, He's his net is even wider. Yeah, arguably so. 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:23.400 In addition to Ryan Smith, Derek Ansley, former Packers past 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:26.320 game coordinator, he is now pen to paper. He is 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:29.240 officially in the building, his contract is officially signed. 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:32.680 Waiting to confirm this. But per Tard Archer, which. 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:36.720 Is a damn good credible source for information, arguably yes, yeah, 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:42.920 so I'm waiting for God's like, Wait, the joke is you. 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:45.320 Can argue anything, you know what I mean, Dallas Cowboys 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:48.080 are from Dallas and it's likesco. 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:54.280 Arguably yes, yeah, shout out the Archer. 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:56.560 You could argue anything. You could. Doesn't mean you need to, 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:58.360 but you could. Yeah. 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:01.880 So I'm waiting to make this get this officially confirmed 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:04.360 from upstairs. But we came right into the podcast, So 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:06.920 follow Twitter voice at the Star. We'll get you that 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:09.880 information and the tracker. You should have the tracker bookmark 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:12.360 Gallascowboys dot com. 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:14.000 You should have the tracker bookmark. 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:16.640 All things is being updated daily, so as soon as 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:19.080 I get that made official for Ansley, that will be 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:23.240 updated as well. But we also have that the Cowboys 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:27.760 have agreed to terms with Marcus Dixon, who who they 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:30.440 interviewed a couple of times, one virtually one in person 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:33.280 over the past weekend. Marcus Dixon is not only in 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:36.040 the building, he is officially not leaving the building because 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:39.360 now he has work to do. Former Vikings defensive line 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:43.840 coach under one and Brian Floydes I like and we 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:48.200 love some Brian Flores. So Marcus Dixon is definitely in 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:52.560 the building as well. And needless to say, he knows 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:55.440 how to coach some football. He played football. He was 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:58.480 a former assistant defensive line coach for the Rams, defensive 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:02.000 line coach for the Broncos before joining Brian Floores as 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:06.000 defensive line coach for the Vikings. That is another big 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:08.760 get for the Cowboys, and we're waiting to see which 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:13.480 of these other guys are going to potentially land deals 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:17.880 obviously pending right now. Run now Williams Eagles assistant linebackers coach. 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:21.359 Who else we got? We got Robert Livingston, Colorado defensive coordinator. 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:25.400 And we got a new entrant into the contest for 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:29.360 position coach c j i U Texas Tech offensive line 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:31.200 excuse me, outside linebackers coach. 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:36.240 So outside linebackers, outside linebackers coach. We will talk about that. 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:39.280 A couple guys in the draft that are really good 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:40.520 from Texas Tech. 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:43.240 Couple. There's a guy named David. 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:45.040 Bailey who's going to be a first round pick, there's 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:46.800 a guy named Romelo Height that's. 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:49.120 Going to be a first round pick. I think he 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:51.000 coached both of those guys. 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:54.440 And then there's a linebacker, not an outside linebacker, but 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:58.880 a mic linebacker named Josh Rodriguez who could be a first, second, 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:00.840 or third round pick who he knows where he's going 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:01.520 to go right now. 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:04.600 I don't know. I just think that's worth pointing out. 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:06.319 It is very much worth pointing out. 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:06.880 Just thought. 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:11.439 I guess the new entrance takesture, Jacob, is it? Josh? 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:16.479 Josh? 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:20.200 Kyleain, congratulations, dude, you're going in the draft. 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:21.959 My play days are behind me, Kyle. 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:24.200 Sorry, no, Jacob Rodya is my bad? 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:26.640 Looks like you could line up and let's throw some 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:27.320 bodies around. 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:27.440 Now. 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:30.280 I did one pulling play for the Little Lobo and 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:35.000 they were like, all right, let's. 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:36.040 He's gonna be better as a webmaster one day. 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:39.880 Damn good webmaster in the movie at the Streak. But 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:41.920 as soon as they put me on a pull play, 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:50.640 that guy looks like a film creak. CJ. Good thing 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:52.920 they had scouts at film school University. Baby, That's all 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:53.880 I'm saying. J. 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:57.120 You Texas tech outside linebackers coach. He is now a 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:01.160 candidate for a position coaching role onunder Christian Parker, as 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:06.000 is Eric Henderson, USC co defensive coordinator, run game coordinator 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.360 and defensive line coach. Eric Henderson does quite a bit 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:09.480 out there for the Trojans. 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:10.080 Uh. 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:14.000 And so we know, Denzel Martin Steelers outside linebackers coach. 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:16.199 You're gonna hear this quite a bit because in all 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:17.920 of the candidates that I named, and we're gonna talk 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:22.520 about this, uh in a moment, outside linebackers coach, outside 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:25.680 linebackers coach, outside linebackers coach. Notice not once did I 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:29.880 say defensive ends coach wink Wick. We'll get to that 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:32.560 in a second man front IDMN front. 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:33.079 Uh. 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:38.400 And one more new entrant. Fourth new entrant is from Athens. Oh, 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:41.559 the Cowboys have scheduled in person interview with Kirby Smart. 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:42.679 Why do you do that? 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:42.920 Oh? 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:44.760 Sorry, I did you just ask him? 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:47.320 Because now it's now now. Whenever I dropped the name, 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:50.000 it's like they hit the same now. But he's from 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:54.160 the Kirby Smart tree. And that's a pretty big deal, okay. 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:55.079 Which comes from the Nick Saban. 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:56.120 That is true. 0:11:56.200 --> 0:12:02.200 So chideo Uzzo dribe he is the linebackers coach for Georgia. 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:07.600 Which linebacker's coach? The outside linebackers coach? Patrick, Can I 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:08.600 say it? You can say it. 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:11.040 Go dogs. 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:17.000 Now, whenever you're reaching into the Georgia coaching ranks, particularly 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:21.480 at linebacker position coaching, then you're starting to look at 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:23.600 number one. I'm just going to say it, all right, CJ. 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:26.439 Even though CJ is off the ball linebacker, he's a 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:28.560 middle Okay, he's a mike. He's not an on ball, 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:31.160 he's not a defensive end, doesn't rush the pastor However, 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.360 there's obviously that that relationship that's there. But I will 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:36.000 also say, because I know a lot of people on 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:38.480 Twitter once that news dropped via Todd Archer again shout 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:40.840 out Todd Archer, a lot of people saying, you know, well, 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:43.440 you know, Pat, no, c what does this guy bring? 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:43.960 What does he do? 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:48.640 I can tell you quite simply, if you've ever been 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:52.360 impressed with the ability of the defensive line to get 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:55.800 after the quarterback when you're watching Georgia, this is why 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:57.840 you would love to have this type of guy here 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:00.640 right into rebase. So I want to see how far 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:03.720 that goes. But those are your new entrants and the 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:08.600 ones who have been confirmed, Ryan Smith, Derek Annsley, Marcus Digson. 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:09.760 Welcome to the program. 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:12.079 Okay, so let's turn this thing around a little bit. 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:17.079 We've already alluded to it here. You're looking at outside linebackers. 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:22.440 Comes so very interesting reading the tea leaves here and 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:25.640 even just from the schematics and from the coaching tree 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:28.400 that Christian Parker comes from as a defensive coordinator. Now 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:31.760 in his first stint as a decordinator, you would anticipate 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:33.960 an odd man front, right, Yeah, forget it, And that 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:37.760 was kind of part of it. Does this personnel in 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:42.160 Dallas fit the need as an odd man front or 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:43.960 is there gonna be a lot of moving and shaking 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:44.640 that needs to happen. 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:46.240 I think there's gonna be a lot of move in shaking, 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:49.960 but also definitely they have their mindset on free agency 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:51.959 in the draft to really fill in a lot of 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:54.440 those gaps. I hope you have linebackers right now that 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:57.760 could possibly fit maybe that transition to a three four 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:01.280 or using multiple fronts, which Brian schot Nimer has been 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:03.600 a proponent of since he became the coach. He's been 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:07.440 saying multiple yeah, he said that multiple times. Now you're 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:10.760 actually seeing it. This is the clearest indication of that change. 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:14.360 But you currently have long, explosive athletes who need to live, 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:16.280 who don't need to live with their hand in the dirt. 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:21.560 Transitioning guys to stand up outside linebackers. Consider a Demarvin Overshown. 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:25.320 Consider Shamar James is a sort of stand up assignment 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:26.800 limited outside linebacker. 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:28.360 I'd love to see him in that role. 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:32.880 Seriously, right and situational Blitzer right. And then think of 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:35.840 Marris lea fout in passing situations as like a nickel linebacker. 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.120 I think you have the personnel that could make it work, 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:42.800 but you obviously need to improve the personnel across the board. 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:43.760 I agree. 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:46.720 I don't think that as we have this conversation that 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:50.000 you have the personnel to run that front. But we're 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:53.960 having that conversation on February third. You have the entirety 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:57.920 of free agency and the upcoming draft, and then of 0:14:57.960 --> 0:14:59.880 course some of the spill over after the draft. How 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:03.880 you handle the free agents that the mercenaries that didn't 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:04.880 get signed before then? 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:05.600 How do you handle that? 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:07.520 Because keep in mind, you had a guy like Jadeveon 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:10.200 Clowney didn't come in until right when the seat, right 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:12.280 after the season had begun. So you'll have some mercenaries 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.760 there by the way sign Jadevion quickly, but you have 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:18.840 to go and get them. But it starts with knowing 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:21.680 who the coaching staff is and knowing what framework the 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:24.160 scouts need to be looking toward. As far as bringing 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:26.280 the personnel in. It doesn't need to start the other 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:29.320 way around. Otherwise you find yourself in the inerflu situation 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:31.400 where you have this personnel, but then you want to 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:34.200 hire a coach, but the coach, their scheme and their 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:37.040 framework doesn't work with the personnel, nor are they willing 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:39.760 to be versatile enough to adapt to the personnel. That's 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:41.880 when you run into problems. I like how the Cowboys 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:43.600 are handling it right now. They say, hey, we want 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:46.080 to get Christian Parker. They look at Christian and they say, hey, 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:48.840 what do you want to run and what coaching staff 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:50.840 do you need to run it. Let's just build that 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:53.400 out first. They're building that out and then they look 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:55.400 at the roster and say, you know what, we have 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:58.360 some pieces we know will fit like a demo for example, 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:01.080 And I'll say this, I think as Roku would look 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:03.400 great in a three four, he'd be fine. He'd be 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:05.360 fine because if you look at his build, his build, 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:08.400 although there's a little bit more mass on him than 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:12.400 there is demorvey on Overshown, but physically they're about the 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:15.600 same height, same wingspan, similar So I could see as 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:17.080 Roku thriving in that front. 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:18.560 And the main thing you have to worry about when 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:20.600 you're transitioning from a four three to three four is 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:22.840 going to be your interior defensive line, which I think 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:23.760 at this. 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:24.440 Point feel good. 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:26.720 Right now, you feel pretty dern good about it. 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:32.080 Man, Listen, I say, man, listen, because life comes at 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:35.720 you fast. Right a year ago, we're having this conversation 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:41.040 and outside of the concerns at cornerback, the biggest concern 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:43.800 we had was defensive tackle. Now we're sitting here in 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:47.120 February third, twenty twenty six, and we're popping collars and bread, 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:50.360 and you're like a defensive tackle who's worried about that? 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:54.440 You know, I think in years past, if this was 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:56.560 the conversation, if oh, we're gonna switch from four three 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:58.760 to three four, even though I know there's multiples and 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:01.920 Dallas Ransom odd Man fronts at certain times under Matt 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:05.359 Eberflus too, just the majority of the time for yeah, 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:08.639 and a lot of those fives. All of that to 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:11.320 be said, I think if it was this conversation in 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:13.680 years past, we probably. 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:15.560 Would have been hesitant to say it's a good thing. 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:20.160 What was the conversation even prior to hiring a defensive coordinator? 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:23.000 Is it the coordinator or is it the personnel? 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:23.600 Right? 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:26.959 We had that argument, it is this personnel good enough 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:30.200 to execute whatever defensive coordinator is going to be able 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:32.440 to bring in At some point in time, I think 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:35.680 the argument is probably not. At some point you look 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:38.680 at it and say, multiple defensive coordinators have struggled. Maybe 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:40.879 the personnel's just not very good. So what do you 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:44.160 do to change that? You upend the personnel, and that's 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:46.439 what they're trying to do. Is it a harder task 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:47.800 to do in one off season? 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:49.160 Absolutely? 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:51.680 It is tougher to do that than to build off 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:53.760 of what you already have. Not to say that it's 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:56.399 a complete reset, but you're gonna have to turn over 0:17:57.160 --> 0:18:00.240 plenty of individuals to make a switch like this. A 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:02.560 full time switch like this happened, But I think this 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:04.399 is the right time to do it because you get 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:06.879 to build from the ground up, knowing that you have 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:10.440 a piece here, a piece there, a superstar here, a 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:11.840 really good player there. 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:12.920 But then everybody else. 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:15.240 It depends on how you fit into the system and 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:17.040 then you find a way to do it. I've never 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:18.920 been a proponent in the past. One of the things 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:21.399 that dan Quinn did was he fit his system to 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:25.200