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Speaker 2: Get closer, get closer.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, quality quality do we have a lot of those

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I had him from Christmas. I forgot that there.

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Speaker 3: Them that might be it might be needed later today

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Speaker 3: for the wrong day ahead.

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Speaker 2: He sounds good.

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Speaker 6: Good ones, black rifle coffee. We can all share.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. Damn, it sounds like a slogan, ready

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Speaker 2: to happen.

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Speaker 6: Let's do it.

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Speaker 3: We got to be back. You guys had a great

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Speaker 3: show last week. Missed you guys. I was out mobile

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Speaker 3: with the Senior Bowl. Had a lot of fun out

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Speaker 3: there and got to see uh put eyes to prospects,

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Speaker 3: get to really get to know a lot of those

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Speaker 6: That's awesome, man.

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Speaker 2: We'll dive into the draft bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they ended up being really cool that. I mean,

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Speaker 3: some of those interviews were just incredible. And that's not

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Speaker 3: on our side. It's on the prospects side. Some of

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Speaker 3: the stories and some of the things that you get

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Speaker 3: to learn, and that's part of the draft process that

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Speaker 3: I like. Because everybody's got the film at this point

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Speaker 3: with YouTube and the streaming services that everybody has, like

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Speaker 3: two or TV copy, so everybody can kind of evaluate players.

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Speaker 3: But that's something that I guess our access within the

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Speaker 6: Bit to evaluate the character as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what these teams place a lot of

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that a little bit later.

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Speaker 8: I really enjoy listening to the Draft show whenever you're

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Speaker 8: interviewing these guys and like it starts off as a

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Speaker 8: very like kind of casual like getting to know you,

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Speaker 2: Like what's the week been like right right, the early questions, But.

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Speaker 8: Once they start to open up and have fun and

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Speaker 8: like that's really the best part of those shows is

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Speaker 8: whenever they're actually like joking around and like, Okay, this

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Speaker 8: all times during the draft process, during the scouting process

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Speaker 6: Okay, that's fine. Yeah, they always let's chill out a

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Speaker 3: Here, Oh thank you, I appreciate it. The first thing

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Speaker 3: I tell him is like, Hey, we're just going to

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Speaker 2: This isn't an interview, this isn't a job interview. Let's

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Speaker 3: Of he knows a lot of those guys too, like

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Speaker 2: Because I mean, out of the guys.

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Speaker 3: That we interviewed probably eight or nine prospects for the

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Speaker 2: Wow, it's like there's a lot of talent around here.

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Speaker 3: We've gotten the chance to see them grow up a

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Speaker 2: In the Super Bowl as well.

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Speaker 6: Shocker, all right, it's not shocker.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean quality football gets played in Texas.

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Speaker 6: I will say that it's the law objective. Yeah, objectively speaking.

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Speaker 7: I mean, this is objective, This is no this is

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Speaker 7: just fun southern rivalry, right, So we're not here for that.

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Speaker 6: California football talking.

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Speaker 7: Okay, although California does have a good football program as

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Speaker 6: But when you're talking about a good old.

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Speaker 7: Fashioned Southern football, it's Georgia, is it's Texas, you know,

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Speaker 7: it's Florida, Florida, absolutely, Florida, especially South Florida. Yeah, what

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Speaker 7: and you know they find their way into the league

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Speaker 3: I did have fun one of the guys that I

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Speaker 2: Come on out of the Uga, Come on Bulldogs. Dylan

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Speaker 2: Everett talked to him last week. He was great. He

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Speaker 3: And we chatted for maybe two minutes before the interview,

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Speaker 2: Three minutes after the interview with football.

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Speaker 6: He didn't have to do football like you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very smart kid.

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Speaker 7: He would do will And did you get a chance

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Speaker 6: No, wasn't there.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but a couple of guys to keep an eye on.

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Speaker 2: A couple of weeks.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, will, because we will be there.

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Speaker 2: Darn right.

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Speaker 6: We did book our travel, baby, let's go in the books.

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Speaker 6: Let's be an Indy, Let's go a swell time.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait.

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Speaker 6: Stay right back here.

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Speaker 7: You and T football, Georgia football. We're coming to Indy

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Speaker 7: Why we try to segue because we were talking Texas football,

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Speaker 6: So I specified the university.

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Speaker 6: Let's get give you an opportunity to get to you didn't.

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Speaker 7: So quite a bit of news and notes. Most of

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Speaker 7: So good get for Christian Parker and Man, I gotta

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Speaker 7: say Christian Parker is off to the races.

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Speaker 6: He's not wasted any time, not at all.

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Speaker 7: But also in not wasting any time, he's also being

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Speaker 7: exceptionally thorough. We credited Brian Schottenheimer for being thorough in

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Speaker 7: Christian Parker, He's his net is even wider. Yeah, arguably so.

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Speaker 6: Waiting to confirm this. But per Tard Archer, which.

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Speaker 7: Is a damn good credible source for information, arguably yes, yeah,

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Speaker 7: so I'm waiting for God's like, Wait, the joke is you.

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Speaker 8: Can argue anything, you know what I mean, Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 7: Arguably yes, yeah, shout out the Archer.

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Speaker 6: You could argue anything. You could. Doesn't mean you need to,

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Speaker 7: Gallascowboys dot com.

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Speaker 7: Who else we got? We got Robert Livingston, Colorado defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 6: So outside linebackers, outside linebackers coach. We will talk about that.

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Speaker 3: A couple guys in the draft that are really good

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Speaker 2: Couple. There's a guy named David.

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Speaker 3: Bailey who's going to be a first round pick, there's

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Speaker 2: Going to be a first round pick. I think he

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Speaker 3: a mic linebacker named Josh Rodriguez who could be a first, second,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I just think that's worth pointing out.

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Speaker 6: It is very much worth pointing out.

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Speaker 2: Just thought.

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Speaker 6: I guess the new entrance takesture, Jacob, is it? Josh?

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Speaker 3: Kyleain, congratulations, dude, you're going in the draft.

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Speaker 6: My play days are behind me, Kyle.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, no, Jacob Rodya is my bad?

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Speaker 6: Looks like you could line up and let's throw some

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 8: I did one pulling play for the Little Lobo and

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Speaker 3: He's gonna be better as a webmaster one day.

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Speaker 6: Damn good webmaster in the movie at the Streak. But

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Speaker 6: that guy looks like a film creak. CJ. Good thing

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Speaker 7: You Texas tech outside linebackers coach. He is now a

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Speaker 7: And so we know, Denzel Martin Steelers outside linebackers coach.

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Speaker 7: You're gonna hear this quite a bit because in all

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Speaker 7: And one more new entrant. Fourth new entrant is from Athens. Oh,

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Speaker 7: the Cowboys have scheduled in person interview with Kirby Smart.

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Speaker 6: Why do you do that?

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Speaker 9: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I did you just ask him?

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Speaker 7: Because now it's now now. Whenever I dropped the name,

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Speaker 2: Which comes from the Nick Saban.

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Speaker 6: That is true.

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Speaker 7: So chideo Uzzo dribe he is the linebackers coach for Georgia.

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Speaker 7: Which linebacker's coach? The outside linebackers coach? Patrick, Can I

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Speaker 6: Go dogs.

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Speaker 7: Now, whenever you're reaching into the Georgia coaching ranks, particularly

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Speaker 7: Even though CJ is off the ball linebacker, he's a

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Speaker 7: he's not a defensive end, doesn't rush the pastor However,

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Speaker 7: you know, Pat, no, c what does this guy bring?

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Speaker 6: What does he do?

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Speaker 7: I can tell you quite simply, if you've ever been

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Speaker 6: Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so let's turn this thing around a little bit.

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Speaker 3: We've already alluded to it here. You're looking at outside linebackers.

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Speaker 3: an odd man front, right, Yeah, forget it, And that

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Speaker 8: I think there's gonna be a lot of move in shaking,

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Speaker 8: saying multiple yeah, he said that multiple times. Now you're

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Speaker 8: actually seeing it. This is the clearest indication of that change.

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Speaker 8: But you currently have long, explosive athletes who need to live,

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Speaker 8: Transitioning guys to stand up outside linebackers. Consider a Demarvin Overshown.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to see him in that role.

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Speaker 8: Seriously, right and situational Blitzer right. And then think of

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Speaker 8: I think you have the personnel that could make it work,

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Speaker 6: I agree.

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Speaker 7: I don't think that as we have this conversation that

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Speaker 7: what do you want to run and what coaching staff

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Speaker 7: do you need to run it. Let's just build that

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Speaker 7: And I'll say this, I think as Roku would look

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Speaker 8: And the main thing you have to worry about when

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Speaker 2: Point feel good.

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Speaker 6: Right now, you feel pretty dern good about it.

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Speaker 7: Man, Listen, I say, man, listen, because life comes at

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Speaker 7: and you're like a defensive tackle who's worried about that?

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Speaker 3: You know, I think in years past, if this was

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Speaker 2: Would have been hesitant to say it's a good thing.

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Speaker 3: What was the conversation even prior to hiring a defensive coordinator?

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Speaker 3: Is it the coordinator or is it the personnel?

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Speaker 3: We had that argument, it is this personnel good enough

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Speaker 2: Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: It is tougher to do that than to build off

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Speaker 2: But then everybody else.

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Speaker 3: It depends on how you fit into the system and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I do think there's a way.

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Speaker 3: You can up in both of these things and marry

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Speaker 2: It's just going to be a tough task to do so.

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Speaker 8: No, and I think we talked about last week, Kyle,

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Speaker 6: Thing, nor necessarily do you want to.

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Speaker 8: I think there are a lot of players that are

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Speaker 8: But did he play well in twenty twenty five?

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Speaker 8: And that was a victim of politics basically, Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 8: I think there was some favoritism and as the linebackers

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Speaker 6: You're going to have to do a lot of work

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Speaker 7: Personnel tons of season, just tons, that's a perfect word

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Speaker 7: on that, Di Marrionov shown he can be an absolute

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Speaker 7: game changer, but availability TVD on that. Right outside of

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Speaker 7: a huge step forward, especially with if they bring in

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Speaker 7: the correct position coach at linebacker for that young man,

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Speaker 7: I think he'll excel.

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Speaker 8: And if they put him in the right situations like

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Speaker 6: I mean, if you put these guys in the.

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Speaker 8: Best situations for the player, not just the system, I

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Speaker 7: And I will say this real quick, Kyle, because for

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Speaker 7: a great show by the way, Layton vander Esh was

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Speaker 7: praise for what he sees from Shamar James and his upside.

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Speaker 7: So when you have a guy who is as talented

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Speaker 7: because he couldn't play ball. Because man, when he was healthy,

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Speaker 7: he could play some damn ball.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 7: So when you hear you know, former Cowboys veterans who

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Speaker 7: young man like that Shamar James during a year that

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Speaker 7: was so unsettled as a whole defensively, that should.

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Speaker 6: Tell you a lot there.

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Speaker 7: But outside of those guys, I mean defensive backs, we

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Speaker 7: don't even have to get really into it. Safeties, you know,

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Speaker 7: you need some help there. You got to rebuild that completely.

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Speaker 7: Cornerback Travon Dixon's out of the building. We got concerns

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Speaker 7: about Ryan Bland's foots. If On Revel we're confident that

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Speaker 7: a full off season he can take a step forward.

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Speaker 7: Does that mean he immediately becomes a Pro Bowl the

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Speaker 7: next year? We're not saying that, which means to be nice.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, be nice, But so many question marks. Man.

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Speaker 7: So you have some pieces, mostly defensive tackle. The rest

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Speaker 7: you got to You gotta give Christian Parker everything he needs.

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Speaker 7: That's gonna take a lot of work, but you got

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Speaker 7: a lot of time.

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Speaker 3: This is February, it is a lot of time. It's

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Speaker 3: not a lot of time at the same.

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Speaker 7: Time, Yeah, that's true, he's already but going Shriy and

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Speaker 7: Bowl and seeing sack scouts are out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to get after it a little bit.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's where this was such a coveted

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Speaker 3: job by defensive coordinators. It was across the league and

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Speaker 3: even going to the Senior Bowl and having conversations with

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Speaker 3: other organizations, they said the same thing, like that was

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Speaker 3: a highly coveted job because you have individuals that you

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Speaker 3: can build around, young talent and a big, big plus

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Speaker 3: in terms of your guys interior wise, with Quinn Williams

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Speaker 3: and with Kenny Clark. Yeah, I mean people want to

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Speaker 3: have your interior line stacked like that.

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Speaker 2: They have it.

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Speaker 3: But then you also have the expectations. Aren't to be

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Speaker 6: We talked about this.

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Speaker 3: You just got to be a halfway decent decent defense

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Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, your offense hopefully takes

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Speaker 3: keep an eye on as we move forward. We'll continue

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Speaker 3: But when we come back on talking coos. We're gonna

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Speaker 9: What's going on, gentlemen, how's everybody today?

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Speaker 6: Are you wonderful?

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Speaker 9: I'm good man. I'm just making some shirpping grits for

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Speaker 9: the lady. Hey, you hurt Josh, Just so you know, Bro,

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Speaker 9: do'll sell yourself so short. Okay, I think you would

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Speaker 9: be a great outside linebacker, slashdo very much. I think

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Speaker 9: you would be great. Keep doing your movie thing, but yeah,

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Speaker 9: I think you would be great. So one of my

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Speaker 9: was hearing, oh, well, we need to hire a certain

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Speaker 9: demographic of coaching me personally, Black white are in different. Man,

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Speaker 9: Let's just hope that they're the best candidate. That's one

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Speaker 9: of my biggest things. I just wanted the best candidate,

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Speaker 9: whether it have been Christian Parker or Jim Leonard or

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Speaker 9: or Jim Schwartz. And I just wanted the best candidate

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Speaker 9: for us. And the fact that we went young speaks

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Speaker 9: volumes of the changes that the Joneses feel they need

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Speaker 9: to make. Yep uh. Storing a little draft in there,

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Speaker 9: I would like to have mister Wood, not Josh Rodriguez,

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Speaker 9: but you know the other Rodrigue as from my Texas

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Speaker 9: A and L. Do you guys think that that moving

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Speaker 9: back at twenty would be the best options in order

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Speaker 9: to get more picks for Day two or sticking and

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Speaker 9: sticking and picking where we are would would do better.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you, hoodie coush. Two great questions, great call.

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Speaker 11: Man.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna start with draft just since it was you too, man,

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Speaker 2: you too.

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Speaker 7: And we're gonna start by saying, enjoy those damn shrimping

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Speaker 7: Yeah man, that's yeah.

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Speaker 6: Legendary combo just.

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Speaker 3: Made me hungry and media X starting with draft just

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Speaker 3: since it was the most recent question there. Jacob Rodriguez

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Speaker 3: out of Texas Tech, great linebacker. I think there are

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Speaker 3: better ones available for you at twelve twenty if you wanted.

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Speaker 2: To trade back, I would trade back.

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Speaker 3: From twenty, and that's only if you have a contingency

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Speaker 3: of guys that you feel really confident in and you

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Speaker 3: would be able to get back in the top one hundred,

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Speaker 3: which you could do and it's happened before, but you

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Speaker 3: can't go super far down the list. I would still

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Speaker 3: want to have at least the first round pick, or

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Speaker 3: at least an early second round pick where you can

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Speaker 3: kind of sleep on your board a little bit going

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Speaker 3: into Day two and pick up a third round at

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Speaker 3: the same time. And that's you're going to have to

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Speaker 3: have a hefty price and a dance partner that wants

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Speaker 3: couple options. We've talked about it a few times on

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Speaker 3: the Draft Show. We'll probably hit it again as we

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Speaker 3: get closer. I don't know if Jacob Rodriguez would be

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Speaker 3: the target there if he is, if it is a

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Speaker 3: trade back option, but I think there you're going to

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Speaker 3: get two guys that can immediately be impact players on

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Speaker 3: your defense at twelve and twenty.

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Speaker 2: So I don't think I would trade back.

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Speaker 8: No, I think you stick a pick at this point.

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Speaker 8: You traded Michael Parsons. This is why you did it.

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Speaker 8: You want those two first round picks, please use them.

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Speaker 8: My only caveat to that is if all of your

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Speaker 8: first round talent is off the board by twenty I mean,

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Speaker 8: for whatever reason, because that because that happens, you know obviously,

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Speaker 8: And if the best player available there isn't the value

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Speaker 8: of a first round pick, sure I would move out

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Speaker 8: of it and get yourself the day two pick, which

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Speaker 8: you currently don't have. But right now, stick and pick. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: give me the best two players you can find right

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Speaker 8: through in both defense.

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Speaker 7: Yes, would would not be upset at sticking and picking

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Speaker 7: twelve and twenty. I definitely say stick and pick at

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Speaker 7: twelve twenty. Depends on who's on the phone. If someone's

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Speaker 7: on the phone, let's say, what do we got Cleveland

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Speaker 7: at twenty four, Chicago at twenty five. I'd be willing

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Speaker 7: to entertain going down from twenty to the mid twenties.

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Speaker 7: If that fielded me at third round.

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Speaker 6: Pick of some so late twenties, bye bye bye. No

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Speaker 6: you're not.

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Speaker 8: I'm not picking up the phone for any late twenties.

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Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying, mid twenty picking up.

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Speaker 6: The phone to hear what they're saying, and then I'm good.

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Speaker 6: It just for me. It just depends on who's on

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Speaker 6: the line.

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Speaker 7: Because again, if I depend on how the board is falling,

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Speaker 7: and I stayed at twelve, and I made my pick

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Speaker 7: at twelve, so that means I got my guy, right,

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Speaker 7: I got my first guy if how my board is

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Speaker 7: falling versus how the draft is going, if my second

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Speaker 7: guy is still there at like nineteen, and then I'm

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Speaker 7: looking at who's behind me, and you look at you know,

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Speaker 7: Pittsburgh and the Chargers and Philly, and you say to yourself,

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Speaker 7: will they're likely not going to take my guy. I'm

665
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 7: willing to fall back to twenty four to twenty five.

666
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 7: I am willing to fall back to twenty four to

667
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 7: twenty five if the you know, if it's Chicago or

668
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 7: Cincinnati and whomever, and they're like, well, okay, give us

669
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 7: that twenty and We'll give you a third round pick if.

670
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 6: You're willing to do that.

671
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 7: And my guy is still falling like I think he will,

672
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 7: and he'll still be there around twenty four to twenty five,

673
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 7: that's a win win win for me.

674
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, So that's what I mean.

675
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 7: So I'm fine with sticking and picking at twelve and

676
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 7: twenty most certainly at twelve.

677
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 6: Don't move from twelve.

678
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 7: But once you get around twenty, look at the board,

679
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 7: answer the phone, look at how the draft is going,

680
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 7: and just be fluent, is what I'm saying.

681
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 6: Do you think there's a world where the Cowboys move

682
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 6: up at all from twelve? No? I don't think there's. No,

683
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 6: not at all.

684
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 2: Probably not for who downs. No, they the top five,

685
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: I don't know.

686
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 3: No, I would rather take the shot that he slides

687
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 3: than to spin my picks.

688
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 6: And yeah, I don't see I'm doing it at all.

689
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 6: I'm just with fire there.

690
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 3: But I'm playing around on one of these these mock

691
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 3: draft simulators. The Titans offered me pick thirty five for

692
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 3: twenty No, but they threw in a second round pick

693
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 3: and a third round pick next year.

694
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 6: No, no, no, it would have to be.

695
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

696
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 3: But that's the type of Dans partner you would have

697
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 3: to have, is it's not going to be anybody there

698
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 3: because and we've had this conversation a couple of times too,

699
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 3: from about five to twenty, there's not a ton of

700
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 3: separation between these prospects.

701
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 2: It's all very grouped together.

702
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 3: Pick what you need here, take what you need there,

703
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 3: and see what happens. From about twenty to fifty, it's

704
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 3: starting to look like that's a group that's all together.

705
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 3: So nobody's really going to be dancing around unless they

706
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 3: have one of their upper echelon first round picks that

707
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 3: are still available, and they don't think the last of

708
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 3: that spot, So it would probably be further down, like

709
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 3: a thirty early thirties type of pick, somebody that may

710
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 3: have already selected in the first round, and then would

711
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 3: have to give you quite the hall to get up there.

712
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 7: But let's see, because I'm looking at the draft value

713
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 7: chart right now, let's see twenty. The value on that

714
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 7: is eight hundred and fifty points. Cleveland as one example,

715
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 7: Cleveland is at twenty four, seven hundred and forty points.

716
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 7: If y'all, if you swapped they take twenty, you take

717
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 7: twenty four, they'd still owe you one ten where they

718
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 7: in the third Cleveland.

719
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 2: It's a lot of math right off the dome here, Patrick,

720
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 2: keep going.

721
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 7: Dude, Cleveland wouldn't work because the seventieth overall is too

722
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 7: rich worth two forty. That means they have now it

723
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 7: doesn't always break even. Some teams are just like, you

724
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 7: know what.

725
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 6: It's a first round YEA, like just take the extra.

726
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 7: One hundred and twenty points to some mid But that

727
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 7: would be so it looks like something like a Chicago

728
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 7: at twenty five or Buffalo at twenty six would be

729
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 7: more feasible to be able to make that swap and

730
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 7: then force them to give you a third round pick.

731
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 7: But those are the conversations I'd be willing to have

732
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,719
Speaker 7: as twenty approaches. But I'm completely comfortable at twenty.

733
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 6: If I'm not.

734
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 7: Hearing anything that's making me sit up and say, okay,

735
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 7: now we're talking just sticking pick at twenty as well.

736
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 6: I just like the flexibility.

737
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 2: Z Yeah.

738
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 3: Eight eight eight eight five five two two nine seven.

739
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 3: I believe we have a couple of phone lines open,

740
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 3: and as we wait for you to give us a

741
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 3: call eight eight eight eight five five two two ninety seven.

742
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 2: Got to hear from George Pickens and Dak Prescott yesterday.

743
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 6: Yes he did.

744
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: At the Pro Bowl.

745
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 3: Tommy Yaris wrote an article on Dallas Cowboys dot com.

746
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 3: If you haven't checked it out already, it.

747
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 6: Is what do you do? It's on the dot com.

748
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 2: It is free. There's no paywalk, no paywall.

749
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 6: A couple ads, but the.

750
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 3: Feeling is mutual from Pickens to the front office, as

751
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 3: is the front office to Pickens. George Pickens said on

752
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 3: being asked if he would like to return to Dallas,

753
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 3: he said, I would love to, but when you can't

754
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 3: control it, you just kind.

755
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 2: Of hope for the best.

756
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 6: That's a fair point. There's nothing. There's no shade there, Okay,

757
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 6: none at all.

758
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 2: Let's keep going.

759
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 3: Well now, not me personally, when talking about if the

760
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 3: Cowboys have reached out to him personally on a contract extension, which.

761
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 6: Is probably a good thing, but it's there talking to

762
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 6: the agent.

763
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 2: Definitely, probably my agent.

764
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 3: He doesn't tell me who calls all the time, So

765
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 3: definitely just kind of waited out and hoped for the best.

766
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 2: Second time he said that, So a couple of things there.

767
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, what's your interpretation, Kyle?

768
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 2: I have no problem with it. Okay, Yeah, I'm just

769
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: I'm reading that.

770
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 6: I have an interpretation.

771
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 2: What's your interpretation?

772
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 6: He really wants to stay.

773
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 2: I think he does.

774
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 7: The fact that he said keeps I'm saying, I hope

775
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 7: it works out for the best. It feels as if

776
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 7: he's saying this is the best that he hopes it

777
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 7: works out for Yeah. So I mean this goes back

778
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 7: to during the season, the you know, the innumerable amount

779
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 7: of times that he was asked about you know, free

780
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 7: agency and does he want to stay, and every single

781
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 7: time he echoed that sentiment he wants to remain with

782
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 7: the Cowboys, but it is out of his control.

783
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 6: And that's true. It's a true statement.

784
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 3: And Tommy Yarrish asked that question, what is the best

785
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 3: mister George Pickens, what.

786
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 2: Do you feel like is the best?

787
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 3: He said, just the ultimate best deal where it helps everybody.

788
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 3: If it's the best thing for both parties, then I'm

789
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 3: willing to do anything. But like I said, I can't

790
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 3: control it, so I just kind.

791
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 2: Of chill listen.

792
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 7: Even that statement has to make Jerry Stephen Jones smile.

793
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 7: Whatever works best for both parties and he wants to

794
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 7: It sounds as if and I'm not going to say

795
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 7: this because I want every player.

796
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 6: I'm a player advocate. I want every player to get

797
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 6: as much money as they can.

798
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: I know what you're gonna say, don't say it.

799
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 7: That being said, well number one, let me just say

800
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 7: I want to hear about no damn pie. So but

801
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 7: the good news is is, and this is. I was

802
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 7: having this conversation with a fan. This is funny. And

803
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 7: a fan with a fan at a gas station not

804
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 7: two days ago. Interesting, not two days ago. I was

805
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 7: buying some chips and they're like, hey, you know see

806
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 7: and we just started talking to Yeah, tostitos.

807
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 6: They were delicious. And it was at a seven eleven

808
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 6: official sponsor of the Das Calb.

809
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 2: She had a black rifle coffee in hand too. On

810
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: his way out, the.

811
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 7: Fan was asking. He was like, so, what do you

812
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 7: what do you think we are on this George Pickens thing.

813
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 7: I said, I'll tell you this much. So often we

814
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 7: hear Jerry Jones use the pie argument against you know,

815
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,959
Speaker 7: how things might turn out when negotiating with a free agent.

816
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,919
Speaker 7: Jerry Jones has basically set that to the side every

817
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 7: single time he's been asked about George Pickens. Every time

818
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 7: they asked about the salary cap. Oh, we can figure

819
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 7: it out. We can figure you never hear Jerry talk

820
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 7: about this when it comes to salary cap versus signing

821
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 7: a big money player. I think that works in the

822
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 7: favor of George Pickens. And then you hear George Pickens

823
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 7: saying things like he wants it to work out for

824
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 7: both parties involved, not just himself. Man, I think this

825
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 7: deal gets done. Now that being said, do I think

826
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 7: the deal gets done by February seventeenth, nineteenth?

827
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 6: No, I think it can. I don't know that it.

828
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 7: Necessarily will, because there's a lot of moving parts when

829
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 7: you're talking about a deal this large. I am of

830
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 7: the mindset I think the Cowboys tag him, but I

831
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 7: think the tag is to buy time until mid July

832
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 7: to get the long term deal done. But then I

833
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 7: think it gets done far before July. I just don't

834
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 7: know that it gets done before the tag window will close.

835
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 8: This for all parties, and I guess selfishly, I just

836
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 8: want the deal to get done as soon as possible,

837
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 8: just so we can stop talking about it. Yeah, George

838
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 8: Pickens will be playing for the Dallas Cowboys.

839
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 2: Agreed?

840
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 3: I agree, all right, let's take a call from Troy

841
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 3: and Amarillo.

842
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 2: Troy, you're on talking to the Cowboys. What's going on?

843
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 6: Man?

844
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 12: Oh hey, many, good to talk to you guys. You know,

845
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 12: I was just thinking the other day, you know, and

846
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 12: shout out to Kyle and to Bobby Belt, you know,

847
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 12: for the draft show. But I'll tell you, man, we

848
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 12: need a couple of drafts, how like Detroit had, you know,

849
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 12: back to back, and we can do They may be

850
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 12: tough then with this year's the way things are stacking up,

851
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 12: but you know, Bobby was right. Man. You talk about

852
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 12: you know, two ends, two linebackers to you know, two

853
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 12: back end guys and and then maybe one or two safeties.

854
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 12: You really need all that and then you know, actually

855
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 12: to make and you're not gonna be able to get

856
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 12: it all this year. You're just not, don't. I don't

857
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 12: think he can do all that. If you have a

858
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 12: couple of drafts kind of like Detroit did a couple

859
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 12: of years few years back, you can actually make things happen.

860
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 12: And I've bet Will mcclayman. You know, these guys really

861
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 12: have to hit on them and I think they I

862
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 12: think they can. They really do.

863
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 3: Man, Thank you for the call Troy, I agree with

864
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 3: you because and he's referencing a moment on the Draft

865
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 3: Show where Bobby outlined a checklist that included multiple players

866
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 3: in almost every defensive position, and the checklist was to

867
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 3: achieve prior to the draft, so that way you can

868
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 3: draft the best player available whenever the time comes. And

869
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 3: it's a long list, there's a lot of work to do.

870
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 3: It's kind of like what we talked about earlier. It's

871
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 3: almost impossible to overhaul a defense in one one summer,

872
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 3: but it's possible to take steps in the right direction.

873
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 3: And that's where the expectation is middle of the road

874
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 3: for this Dallas defense. I do think you might see

875
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 3: and everybody's talking to I've always said.

876
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 2: On the show, what if? I always said on the show,

877
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 2: hope is not a strategy.

878
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 3: But there are some things from this twenty twenty five

879
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 3: draft class that you've seen that you hope to see

880
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 3: a step forward. Do you plan for it to happen?

881
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 3: Absolutely not. Don't plan for it to happen because that's

882
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 3: not the strategy. But if it does happen, then all

883
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 3: of a sudden, you see Savona Reveel step up and

884
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,960
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Speaker 3: You got a chance to see some guys at anybody

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Speaker 3: stick out to you.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, quite a bit actually. I mean you know, first

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Speaker 7: of all, let me just lead with this. Mason Rieger, okay,

976
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Speaker 7: ed rusher from Wiscon edge rusher from Wisconsin sixty five.

977
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Speaker 7: What a freaking showing dude. He was great in practice,

978
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Speaker 7: what a freaking monster man, career high three sacks. He

979
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Speaker 7: he started the flash in the first half that he

980
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Speaker 7: might start to come on, but that second half he

981
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Speaker 7: was like, this is this is my game Because early

982
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Speaker 7: on you had Wesley Williams, Ed Druss Rod of Duke

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Speaker 7: sixty three, two fifty one, you had Keyshawn James Nuby

984
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Speaker 7: out of New Mexico. Those guys were kind of coming

985
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Speaker 7: on in the first half, first three quarters, and then

986
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Speaker 7: Mason Ruger was like, you know what, I'll take it

987
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Speaker 7: from here. But all three of those guys so rightgro

988
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Speaker 7: out of Wisconsin, Wesley Williams out of Duke, James Nuby

989
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Speaker 7: out of New Mexico. Those were my top three edge

990
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Speaker 7: rushers that jumped out linebackers didn't have a fantastic showing,

991
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Speaker 7: with the exception of one in particular, Shat Banks University

992
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Speaker 7: of Texas at San Antonio five eleven, two thirty three. Man,

993
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Speaker 7: he was just all over the place. He was playing

994
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Speaker 7: like his hero was on fire. He jumped off.

995
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Speaker 3: He was a late addition to the Shrine bul roster too,

996
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Speaker 3: because they had some injuries early in the week. Of course,

997
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Speaker 3: I do the work with the American Conference and I've

998
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Speaker 3: watched him play for three years now.

999
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Speaker 2: He's a dog.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, his motor is.

1001
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind taking a day three, wouldn't flyer on him.

1002
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Speaker 7: Motors great plays through the whistle, showed me some things

1003
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Speaker 7: in coverage as well as showed me some things in

1004
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Speaker 7: filling run gaps.

1005
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Speaker 3: So I'll end on one day practice, one day press,

1006
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 3: one day practice ready for that sett.

1007
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Speaker 7: Banks UTSA keep an eye on that guy. Cornerbacks. It

1008
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Speaker 7: was a tough goal for them. With the exception of

1009
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Speaker 7: Brent Austin out of Cal five eleven one seventy six,

1010
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Speaker 7: third team All acc selection in twenty five. Kind of raw,

1011
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Speaker 7: but had some traits there that showed me some things.

1012
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Speaker 7: In the Shrine Bowls safety one jumped out at me

1013
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Speaker 7: cole is Nowski Texas Tech. We talked about they always

1014
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Speaker 7: yeah six four two twenty uh and the Cowboys are

1015
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Speaker 7: interviewing the Texas Tech position coach on defense, So.

1016
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Speaker 6: Keeping eye on that and honorable mention.

1017
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Speaker 7: Man, you know, glad it wasn't anything major, but James Thompson,

1018
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Speaker 7: junior out of Illinois, Man, he fired right out of

1019
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Speaker 7: the gate in the Shrine Bowl, suffered a little bit

1020
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Speaker 7: of an injury toward halftime, just ahead of head time halftime,

1021
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Speaker 7: walked off under his own power. Didn't look like he

1022
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Speaker 7: was anything a major concern, but as a precaution, didn't

1023
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Speaker 7: bring him back in the game. But I would have

1024
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Speaker 7: loved to see more. But I saw enough in the

1025
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Speaker 7: first half to make him an honorable mention. And I

1026
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Speaker 7: did do a list of Shrine Bowl standouts that make

1027
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Speaker 7: sense for the Cowboys on Dallas Cowboys dot com dot com.

1028
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Speaker 6: Make sure you check that out.

1029
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Speaker 3: Do you have any that you watched, either from the

1030
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Speaker 3: Shrine Bowl or a Senior Bowl that stuck out to you?

1031
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Speaker 6: Only watched the Shrine Bowl.

1032
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Speaker 8: And more so, I was paying attention to the coaching

1033
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Speaker 8: staff because Linda Wells obviously.

1034
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Speaker 2: Dude, that was awesome.

1035
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Speaker 6: Amazing for him get the gatorade.

1036
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Speaker 2: Bath at the end of the game.

1037
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Speaker 3: I was just we were sitting in Indianapolis watching the

1038
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Speaker 3: game at a bar and when I mean smiling ear ear.

1039
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Speaker 2: Yeah, couldn't have been happier for him.

1040
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Speaker 8: So no, and if he decides to depart the Dallas

1041
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Speaker 8: Cowboys for a better opportunity, it's it would be well

1042
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Speaker 8: deserved because a guy that has just put in so

1043
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Speaker 8: much work to to gain the credibility that he has

1044
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Speaker 8: A player favorite obviously just really stock for him. But Rager,

1045
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 8: like you said, I really liked him a lot or

1046
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 8: Riyger excuse me. Yeah, that was about it. But I

1047
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 8: just watched Shrine Bowl a little bit. Isaiah stand Back

1048
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Speaker 8: did a great job.

1049
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Speaker 2: He did do on the NFL Networks fun. Yeah it was.

1050
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Speaker 3: It was a good week across the board, and I

1051
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 3: thought the Shrine bol did a nice job of weathering

1052
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Speaker 3: the storm, no pun intended.

1053
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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, no, that was crazy because cancer.

1054
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Speaker 3: The storm itself was crazy, And I mean I risked

1055
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Speaker 3: my life getting on the eyes just to get down

1056
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 3: to practice a couple of times over the weekend. And

1057
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Speaker 3: I'm glad everybody stayed safe. They were able to keep

1058
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 3: all the practices keep the game going. The crowd wasn't

1059
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 3: as good as it probably should have been, which is

1060
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Speaker 3: part of the weather.

1061
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 6: Makes sense for getting there.

1062
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 3: But they kept all the guys safe and that was

1063
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 3: the number one thing. But I'm talking specifically about them

1064
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Speaker 3: having fifty four opt outs going into the game, and

1065
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 3: they still had a pretty good product on the field

1066
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Speaker 3: as well. One guy wanted to shout out before we

1067
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Speaker 3: get out of here, Landon Robinson, interior defensive lineman from Navy.

1068
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 2: Dude, he was all over all week long, one of

1069
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 2: the standouts. He's a smaller body.

1070
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's going to get drafted because

1071
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 3: he's only two hundred and eighty seven pounds six foot

1072
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 3: and he's a nose tackle three technique type of guy.

1073
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if he'll get drafted, but man, he

1074
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: was really fun.

1075
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 6: He showed out.

1076
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 3: He's like he reminded me of Willy Lampkin. For those

1077
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 3: that do follow the draft, Willy Lampkin was a North

1078
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Speaker 3: Carolina offensive lineman last year, which was just out there

1079
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 3: whooping feet as we like to the draft show, whooping

1080
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Speaker 3: feet and getting out there and taking care of business.

1081
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Speaker 3: But he was so significantly undersized that he went underdrafted.

1082
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 3: Same kind of thing with Landon Robinson. I hope he

1083
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 3: gets a shot somewhere because he's a good kid too,

1084
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 3: and he had a really good week of practice in

1085
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 3: the Shrine Bowl, so I wanted.

1086
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Speaker 6: To shot him. He showed out.

1087
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Speaker 7: And if for those that followed the positions that I

1088
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Speaker 7: named for Cowboy Fronbo standouts that make sense for the Cowboys,

1089
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 7: notice I did not note any defensive tackles, and that

1090
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 7: wasn't because they didn't show out. It's because, circling back

1091
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 7: to the beginning to make sense for the it doesn't

1092
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 7: make sense.

1093
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Speaker 6: For the colt.

1094
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 2: Hey maybe our drafted free agent.

1095
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Speaker 6: That sounds good.

1096
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Speaker 2: Good to me?

1097
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Speaker 3: All right, that's good to do it for us here

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Speaker 3: on Talking Cowboys. Be sure to join us next Tuesday.

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