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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Ping prooven Grounds podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Shane Bak and joined us always by Marty Jertsen. Marty,

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Speaker 1: We've got someone that I think has like level IQ

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Speaker 2: Is that is that fair to say? Are we okay

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Speaker 3: Nico and I have had some fun conversations. Shane, this

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Speaker 1: Nico Daris is with us from Golf Blueprint and Nico

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Speaker 1: first and foremost. I think for people that don't know

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Speaker 5: So whenever that happens, I always say to him, how

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Speaker 5: Of course, So the thirty thousand foot super quick one is.

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Speaker 5: Golf Blueprint is a data and analytics company. I started

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great question. It's a never ending journey, Shane.

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Speaker 3: So it's like it's not like I have like the

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Speaker 3: love getting into some stuff with you on preparing some

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: You gotta get a little creative. I mean, that's the

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Speaker 2: That's really really smart. I mean, you know, I think

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Speaker 1: To Marty's point is we've been twenty we've been twenty five,

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Speaker 2: And you know, I'm Marty.

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Speaker 1: Something I've tried to change personally is not sitting on

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Speaker 1: So if I'm hitting ten eight irons, that's that's the

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Speaker 1: Do you do any of that where it's like this

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Speaker 5: So two things, Marty, A number one slam duck like

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Speaker 5: the golf course because this answers your question, Shane, we

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Speaker 5: But on the course you're only really getting one shot

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Speaker 5: So I don't necessarily have a number. So much as

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Speaker 5: otherwise one of my players, in particular, who happen to

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Speaker 5: number one. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. But

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Speaker 3: Task, Nico. I think one of the big AHA moments

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Speaker 3: I heard him saying to Jordan, Okay, we got we

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Speaker 5: Right, totally tour pros. Like we said, they're normal human

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Speaker 5: How relaxing would that be versus you know, the three

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Speaker 1: Played in tournaments and I've had I you know, I

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Speaker 5: So I can tell you to two funny stories without names.

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Speaker 5: We met a T shirt. It was hilarious. It's Golf

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Speaker 5: Blueprint's greatest hits with all of our game, and there's

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Speaker 5: all right, man, hey, tell me about why you know

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Speaker 3: Me, Niko, Do you work with a lot of college

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Speaker 5: So I'll separate juniors and colleges out a little bit.

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Speaker 5: going to blow past my ten minute you know, time

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Speaker 5: meter and that kid. I don't want a kid to

436
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Speaker 5: be stuck there doing a drill for three hours when

437
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Speaker 5: it's only meant to be ten minutes. So, Kevin, I

438
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Speaker 5: made a decision very early on that, Hey, listen, we're

439
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Speaker 5: not going to do juniors. If a parent buys it

440
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Speaker 5: for their kid, obviously great. We hope that they follow

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Speaker 5: the directions. The last thing I want is for someone

442
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Speaker 5: in ten years to play on tour and be like, dude,

443
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Speaker 5: you maybe do those drills forever. I'm like, no, dude,

444
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Speaker 5: it was the opposite. But yeah, we have some great

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Speaker 5: relationships with college teams. Those are grown Those are grown

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Speaker 5: men and grown women who are able to hopefully manage

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Speaker 5: their time. And that's more of a consulting thing that

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Speaker 5: we do for fun, not necessarily a part of the business,

449
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Speaker 5: just more as you know, we've made some great inroads

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Speaker 5: with college coaches.

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Speaker 2: Nico.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned the hit shirt, and I don't want you

453
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Speaker 1: to get two deep in the weeks because obviously you

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Speaker 1: want people to go out and and some describe and

455
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Speaker 1: buy golf Blueprint, But can you just maybe lay out

456
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Speaker 1: a couple of the most popular programs you guys give

457
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Speaker 1: to players. What that might look like to not a

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Speaker 1: professional player, but maybe a single digit handicap or somebody

459
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Speaker 1: that's a twelve thirteen handicap trying to improve totally.

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Speaker 5: And I will also preface this by saying I'm not

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Speaker 5: a great businessman, and then I give everything away on

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Speaker 5: my Instagram. So if you're if you're falling out private,

463
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Speaker 5: you can follow up. You've probably seen enough golf blueprints

464
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Speaker 5: or my daily posts to just watch what I'm doing.

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Speaker 5: So I always clarify that to people that if money

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Speaker 5: is an issue, shoot us an email. We'd love to

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Speaker 5: help you. Like, we didn't get into the golf business

468
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Speaker 5: to make money. This was keV had another job at

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Speaker 5: another job. We did it because we loved it, and

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Speaker 5: we also then created a business out of it. So

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Speaker 5: I always clarify that piece. But the most important games

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Speaker 5: that I found at the tour level are wedge play,

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Speaker 5: because especially for super high speed guys, they have a

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Speaker 5: hard time dumping that speed. I know, Marty and I've

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Speaker 5: talked a lot about ball speed, and everyone wants to

476
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Speaker 5: drive the Ferrari down the Autobahn at two hundred, nobody

477
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Speaker 5: wants to drive it in a school zone at thirty five,

478
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Speaker 5: where there's massive consequences, and that's wedge play. So the

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Speaker 5: tours wedge play. We talk a lot about that. The amateurs.

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Speaker 5: We find a ton of gains in short game and

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Speaker 5: driving those obviously approach plays. Huge wedges are huge. Putting's huge,

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Speaker 5: but getting someone to be able to drive the ball

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Speaker 5: accurately enough enough is the keyword as an amateur, and

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Speaker 5: then be able to just kind of clean up the

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Speaker 5: short game. Not good, not great. So for example, a

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Speaker 5: driving game for those people at home. You pick two

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Speaker 5: targets out in the air roughly sixty yards and hit

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Speaker 5: ten balls. See how many you hit and play. I mean,

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Speaker 5: these are the most basic ground level things you can

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Speaker 5: do when you're chipping. Hit three balls, how many of

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Speaker 5: them were within six feet? You know, fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 5: So these are all the kind of things that you

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Speaker 5: can do at home without ever subscribing to golf blueprint

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Speaker 5: that I hope someone would take away from social media

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Speaker 5: or a podcast like.

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Speaker 3: This and Nico, those are great. They don't require a

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Speaker 3: launch monitor, any measurement stuff. I mean, you can go

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Speaker 3: to any range, any chip and green do these things right.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, And a launch monitor is a huge barrier to entry.

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Speaker 5: I'm fortunate to work with a launch monitor company. I

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Speaker 5: know how expensive they are. I know how expensive all

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Speaker 5: these things are, and more importantly, how expensive are range balls.

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Speaker 5: I went to a public course the other day in

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Speaker 5: South Florida and paid twenty dollars for seventy balls. Of

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Speaker 5: those seventy balls. Probably ten of them were rocks, yea,

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Speaker 5: you know the other twenty of them didn't fly straight.

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Speaker 5: And so you sit there and you say to people like, well,

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Speaker 5: how can I get better? You need to be able

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Speaker 5: to maximize your time. And I always say this, chipping

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Speaker 5: and putting's free. You know, you could show up to

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Speaker 5: a place chip and putt and you can get really

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Speaker 5: good at that for no cost.

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Speaker 3: My kids and I would just watch the Full Swing

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Speaker 3: episode with Tony Fee now and there and he went

515
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Speaker 3: to his house in Utah and that you know, his

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Speaker 3: dad's like they went to see his garage, had all

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Speaker 3: the dings in it, and he would hit balls all week.

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Speaker 4: Couldn't afford rain and be like, hey, every Sunday we

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Speaker 4: go chip and putt. It was free.

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Speaker 5: Love it. Love that because it's a huge barrier to

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Speaker 5: entry unfortunately for people. Yeah, there's things that are changing

522
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Speaker 5: that with eGolf and sim golf and whatnot, but as

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Speaker 5: it stands right now, you know, driving range balls can

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Speaker 5: be expensive at a public place.

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Speaker 2: And not getting cheaper.

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Speaker 1: I mean I find you know, Marty, you know it's

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Speaker 1: so interesting and I mean, obviously you know you live

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Speaker 1: in Phoenix.

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Speaker 2: I was talking to my uncle.

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Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago, we were talking about the

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Speaker 1: Driving Range and how it feels like the range that

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Speaker 1: we knew, Marty, that's a range with grass that has

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Speaker 1: a lot of targets, maybe has green targets that they

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Speaker 1: mow down. It feels like that's kind of dying a bit.

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of this is going the technological route,

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Speaker 1: where you know it's kind of got you know, top

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Speaker 1: tracer things like that, which are great and very fun.

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Speaker 1: But for a golfer that's trying to find answers in

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Speaker 1: the dirt, they're not always the best places to go.

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Speaker 1: I think about Dobson Ranch, Marty, all the time. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you think about the old Dobson Ranch range, it

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Speaker 1: was awesome. You get the jumbo bucket, it was like

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Speaker 1: eleven bucks. You go out there and hit it a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch of targets, and now it's really it's rather

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Speaker 1: expensive to go there, and most of the time you're

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Speaker 1: hitting off Matt So Niko, I think your point about, Hey,

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Speaker 1: the short game is where you.

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Speaker 2: Can save the most strokes on the planet. We all

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Speaker 2: know that.

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Speaker 1: But if you can go out there and spend half

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Speaker 1: an hour to your point you're somebody that has a

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Speaker 1: job and they have children, and they don't have all

553
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Speaker 1: the time in the world, but they subscribe to Golf

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Speaker 1: Blueprint and you give them a lesson plan for half

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Speaker 1: an hour week on the short game. You can go

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Speaker 1: do that basically anywhere, even if the greens aren't great.

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Speaker 1: You can go out there and actually work on certain

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Speaker 1: things and see how the results come about.

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Speaker 5: Totally Nico.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask you a selfish question here, what protocol,

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Speaker 3: what type of protocol or practice or gamification would you

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Speaker 3: do for a player who gets really nervous on the

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Speaker 3: first tea? Because I know you've done some research with

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Speaker 3: breath work, heart rate variability, how to calm your nervous

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Speaker 3: system or ramp it up on purpose in practice? Right,

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Speaker 3: tell us a little bit about your work in that space,

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Speaker 3: and maybe some tips, tricks or ideas for folks out

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Speaker 3: there that might.

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Speaker 4: Get a little shaky on that first shot.

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Speaker 5: Oh boy, let me tell you, my hands chatter every day,

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Speaker 5: doesn't matter, they especially over that first three foot little slider.

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Speaker 5: Maybe it's inside, old boy. So it all started for

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Speaker 5: me a couple of years ago with one of my

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Speaker 5: tour players, and they were wearing a whoop band. I

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Speaker 5: have a partnership with them, so free ads on that behalf.

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Speaker 5: I will always clarify. And I was watching his heart

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Speaker 5: rate over a six footer with a chance to tie,

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Speaker 5: and this put would have changed his life. He had

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Speaker 5: a chance to tie. He didn't have a lot of status,

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Speaker 5: and he didn't sniff the cup. And I looked back

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Speaker 5: and it was one hundred and forty six over that

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Speaker 5: six foot putt, and I was like, whoa, wait a second,

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Speaker 5: you know there's something here. And in Phoenix, one of

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Speaker 5: my closest friends was Special Forces and I was telling

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Speaker 5: him the story and he was like, dude, we used

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Speaker 5: to do heart rate work all the time. And it

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Speaker 5: just kicked off this basically year long deep dive of

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Speaker 5: researching every single thing that I possibly could on the

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Speaker 5: correlation between heart rate and performance and where do where

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Speaker 5: does the the basic X Y axis For those of

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Speaker 5: you who aren't listening, my fingers are in an X

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Speaker 5: Y axis of Okay, we know that we can't perform

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Speaker 5: at sixty hard. Your heart rate at sixty is not

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Speaker 5: going to perform. You're just you're not in competition. You're

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Speaker 5: probably sitting on your couch but we also know that

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Speaker 5: at one hundred and fifty you start to lose control

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Speaker 5: of your fingertips, that they go a little bit numb.

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Speaker 5: Things start to change, you know, your decision making starts

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Speaker 5: to cloud. And so it was essentially trying to figure

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Speaker 5: out through just massive trial and error of doing it

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Speaker 5: on myself, jamming my heart rate up with burpies, listening

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Speaker 5: to metal music at full blast, and just really uncomfortable

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Speaker 5: hours and hours and hours on the range of figuring

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Speaker 5: out not only where do I play, but then what

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Speaker 5: can I replicate for other players so that they can

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Speaker 5: try their best, because it's never going to be the same, right.

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Speaker 5: But I always use the analogy we take a seventeen

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Speaker 5: eighteen year old kid off the street and two years

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Speaker 5: later they become a functioning Navy seal. Why is it

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Speaker 5: that we don't believe that in golf you can go

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Speaker 5: from having never played to being able to perform. You

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Speaker 5: could train someone to perform. Essentially, I always say, by

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Speaker 5: keeping your finger over the flame, you'll start to go numb.

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Speaker 5: And for me, every single person that I play with

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Speaker 5: is better than me at golf every single day. They're

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Speaker 5: all tour pros, that's who I play with, and I

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Speaker 5: got tired of freaking out every day over those three footers,

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Speaker 5: and I said to myself, yes, I want to get

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Speaker 5: better mentally, I want to get better physically, But what's

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Speaker 5: this kind of third missing piece that I don't quite understand?

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Speaker 5: How come I freak out every single day? And finally

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Speaker 5: I just got to the point where I said, you

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Speaker 5: know what, I can't change it. I'm gonna accept it. Now.

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Speaker 5: I look at things as a bell curve. Ten to

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Speaker 5: twenty days a year, I am flushing it. I slept

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Speaker 5: eight hours, I had a great breakfast, Everything went right.

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Speaker 5: My favorite song was on the radio. Ten to twenty

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Speaker 5: days a year. My arms feel like an octopus. I

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Speaker 5: hit nothing but Al hose L's and oh dear, life

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Speaker 5: is a disaster. Most days are somewhere in the middle.

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Speaker 5: How do we manage that day to day?

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Speaker 1: In golf, Marty, I wanted to ask, Uh, what's the

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Speaker 1: most nervous you've ever been on the first tea? What's

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Speaker 1: the most nervous first tea in your life?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 5: It was.

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Speaker 3: Twenty eleven PGA Championship first t shot, and it's because

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Speaker 3: I went into that event.

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Speaker 4: Shane.

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Speaker 3: The course, the course, was tough Atlanta Athletic Club. Like

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Speaker 3: there's holes with water, some holes. The course is obviously

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Speaker 3: very long and penalizing. I didn't sleep good the night before.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't particularly hitting it good in my practice rounds.

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Speaker 3: Obviously that could change, but I was like, I just

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Speaker 3: I was a nervous wreck. And I get on that

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Speaker 3: first tee and it's not a driver hole. It's like

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Speaker 3: you got to turn a three wood. I really wish

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Speaker 3: I had my driver.

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Speaker 4: I'm my driver. Oh gosh, it was. It was all

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Speaker 4: day long.

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Speaker 3: I kept thinking, how can I hit a driver on

653
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 3: this hole? It's just not a driver and so that

654
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 3: was the kicker. So I had to hit a three

655
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 3: when I blocked it over in the right raugh hitting

656
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 3: the bunker made a bogie. Oh man, But that.

657
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 4: Was the.

658
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 5: Is the scariest shot in golf. You're on the first tea.

659
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 5: I was talking to one of my tour guys who

660
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 5: played in the Brookline Open, and same story for him,

661
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 5: first major, getting up there, just shaking, and he said

662
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 5: he hit a driver off the shaft, and I mean

663
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 5: he said he didn't get any of the club face,

664
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Speaker 5: and he's like, dude, I think I hit this thing

665
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 5: two hundred and thirty six yards and everyone clapped and

666
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 5: I was like, goodness, gracious, get me out of here, Marty.

667
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 2: This is the Thriver. I mean, this is one of

668
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 2: the River's the plane. It's just like one of the

669
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: first teams.

670
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:47,959
Speaker 1: By the way, Marty, I don't know if you deal

671
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: with this, but a few a few days ago, I

672
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: was playing with a friend of mine could not understand

673
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: the Thriver thing, and then every time I hit the

674
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: Thriver he would he could never get which one was?

675
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: Which did you get to pick? There was at the driver.

676
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: I just want to almost get like the Bubba Pink

677
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: one for my driver, so people will like truly understand

678
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: the difference. But I guarantee you, since we've started this podcast, Marty,

679
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: I think I've personally sold fifty Thrivers because once once

680
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: people understand the benefit of not having it three with

681
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: when you don't want to throw it off the team.

682
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Speaker 1: But dude, that Marty, that makes me nervous thinking about it.

683
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: It's like first t shots, super nervy, like playing the

684
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: Amutur last year. First holl was Colorado Golf Club six

685
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: fifty par five. It's like, listen, I get to swing

686
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: as hard as I can out of at least I

687
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: know that I know I can at least do this,

688
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: and that's the that's the that's the good thing, Nico.

689
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: I want to go back to tour players for just

690
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: a moment, because you get a tour player that approaches

691
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: you about golf Blueprint. Then you see success with a

692
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: tour player that's using golf blueprint. What's the you don't

693
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: have the name names, but like, what's the biggest compliment

694
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: you've received from the highest level of player about what

695
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: you've done for their mental game or physical game, or

696
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: just the way they've gone about like off weeks or

697
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: spending time in their game.

698
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 5: The biggest compliment ever was watching an interview and someone

699
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 5: asked a question about a really particular knee high shot

700
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 5: at a very famous golf club in Georgia that has

701
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 5: played typically in April.

702
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: Okay, never heard of it, Yeah, never heard of it.

703
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 5: And the guy said, I've hit that shot before in

704
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 5: practice for the last two months, and I'm getting to

705
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 5: hear that was so freaking cool and just be able

706
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 5: to go wow, dude. That translated like when a pro

707
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 5: says I've hit that shot that's everything Like that is

708
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 5: so rewarding because, like Marty said, you you plan out

709
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,479
Speaker 5: your weeks and we all plan like, all right, I'm

710
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 5: gonna hit it here, I'm gonna hit it there. Well,

711
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 5: I'm not that good at executing, and so sometimes I do,

712
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 5: but they often do. And so to be able to

713
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 5: plan and then execute on your game plan is just

714
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 5: so rewarding. Everyone who's played a round of golf where

715
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 5: you know you're looking where you're hitting it. God, what

716
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 5: a good feeling and how fun is the game when

717
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 5: when you're doing that.

718
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 3: I think about this Nico that you know, I think,

719
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 3: day in and day out, if there wasn't that tournament

720
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Speaker 3: in April and augusta, you know, I think your your

721
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 3: average tour player could go through the rest of the

722
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 3: year hitting the balls straight, hitting a little cut, but

723
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 3: that one tournament there is you know, demands and the

724
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 3: tour players have you they literally have all winter to

725
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 3: think about that, you know, if that's their penultimate goal

726
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 3: is to win the Masters, there are specific shots you

727
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 3: need to pull off there, right, absolutely, So how do

728
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 3: you weave that in like preparing one of the best

729
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 3: players in the world, whether it's for that tournament, or

730
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 3: another one weave in where they have to practice a

731
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 3: certain shot but not overdo it, Like if I were

732
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 3: practicing for Augusta. It's not like I'm going to hit

733
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 3: draws all day long and change my whole pattern.

734
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,479
Speaker 4: Raws. You just need it a couple times, right, how

735
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 4: do you weave that? Weave that in?

736
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Speaker 5: So there's two ways to look at it. There's the

737
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 5: way that you can struct your practice so that let's

738
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 5: say three months out, two months out, a month out,

739
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 5: a couple of weeks out. That's a huge and easy

740
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 5: way to do it so that you essentially just ramp up.

741
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 2: It's like Madill exactly.

742
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 5: Same same deal, where you're gonna say, all right, you

743
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 5: know we're gonna spend a little extra time on three

744
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 5: woods a thriver for that course would be amazing. Being

745
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 5: able to turn it, love, I think you sold fifty one.

746
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 5: I'm free to get one after this.

747
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: Come on, come on, I know it, guy. I know

748
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 2: a guy.

749
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think we know a guy. So

750
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 5: be able to manage that and then essentially understanding like

751
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 5: where's that player at on tour? Are they world number one?

752
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 5: Who can focus on the majors? Because this is going

753
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 5: to be a shocker to people at home. The week

754
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 5: two weeks are important, but the majors matter most when

755
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 5: you're at that level. Now, if you're number one twenty

756
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 5: five and you need to get inside that top seventy five,

757
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, the off week, you know, the

758
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 5: opposite field event that is your major because you need

759
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 5: to perform. You don't have the ability to say, you

760
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 5: know what, two shots inside the cut line and I'm

761
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 5: gonna work that draw right here. You can't do that

762
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 5: because you need to perform. Every day is the single

763
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 5: most important event of your life when you're playing for

764
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 5: your life every day. So it's understanding where that player's

765
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 5: at and then their own risk tolerance, right because, like

766
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 5: you said, they don't just hit one yard fades. I

767
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 5: know it's going to be shocking out there to people

768
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 5: at home, but they're not robots. People work the ball

769
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 5: both ways. And what's the individual player's risk tolerance to say,

770
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 5: you know what, I know in a couple months, I'm

771
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 5: gonna have to hit this one. Let's work on that now.

772
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 5: I've seen that shot and every round is important. But

773
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 5: to the best players in the world, you have a

774
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 5: little bit more luxury and being able to play with

775
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 5: a shot here, play with a shot there.

776
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: Uh Nico, I want to I want to ask about

777
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: the everyday golfer and just the plan. You know, somebody

778
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: who's listening to this podcast, they want to sign up

779
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: for Golf Blueprint. How far out are you structuring plans

780
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: for people that are the everyday golfer, not the tour

781
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: pro that want to be a part of this. Is

782
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: this like weeks in advance, months in advance, Like how

783
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: far out are your structuring their plans for their practice?

784
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, so when they first sign up, they're able to

785
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 5: just fill out a questionnaire and again kind of tell

786
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 5: us what they want, right, what do you want out

787
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 5: of this? Because at the end of the day, learner

788
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 5: empowered instruction is just, in my opinion, the way to go.

789
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 5: If I was going to go get a guitar lesson,

790
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 5: I want to learn how to play Metallica. I don't

791
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 5: want to learn how to play you know, classic rock whatever.

792
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 5: I want to learn Metallica. And so we always say

793
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 5: to people like, tell us what you want. That's huge,

794
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 5: and then give us the more information that you have.

795
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 5: If you have access to a launch ponditor, if you

796
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 5: have access to stats. If you have a handicap, tell us,

797
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 5: tell us what you're good at, tell us what you

798
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 5: struggle at, and then that first month will give them

799
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 5: essentially our best guess. We always like to say that

800
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 5: by the end of month three we're typically pretty good

801
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 5: and dialed in. But that's where we can really start

802
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 5: to dial that upp a more and say, okay, hey, look,

803
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 5: you know you want a little more short game. Fine,

804
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 5: we'll tweak that algorithm to give you that. But also

805
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 5: we have to understand that human beings are poor self assent,

806
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 5: and at the end of the day, our job is

807
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 5: to hold the reins of that and say, look, we

808
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 5: know you, all of a sudden you figured out your driver,

809
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 5: but we're not going to stop hitting drivers now and

810
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 5: just go all to work on putters, because we do

811
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 5: that as human beings, right, We over emphasize one area

812
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 5: of the game, and then all of a sudden we

813
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 5: forget about how to hit a seven iron and now

814
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 5: we need to hit a seven iron on a part three.

815
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 5: So it's that kind of push pull that that we

816
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 5: work really hard on the amateur side with to work

817
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 5: with them more importantly on their goals outcome and process.

818
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 4: Niko, if you could give advice to.

819
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 3: Fifteen year old golfer, you know, just maybe just giving

820
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 3: giving up a couple of his other sports basketball, baseball,

821
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 3: and wants to go all in on golf.

822
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 4: What tips would you give? Would you give like a

823
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 4: youngster out there?

824
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 5: Oh that's a good question. Uh, I'm gonna take this

825
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 5: from a speed perspective with you guys and stacks, tons

826
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 5: of tour guys at Stack get fast number one, because

827
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 5: when we're evaluating players, basically, speed is a yes or no.

828
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 5: Do you have X amount of ball speed or do

829
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 5: you not? Now there's some dudes that play at one

830
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 5: fifty five, one sixty on tour. They are anomalies. If

831
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 5: you have one hundred and eighty nine hour ball speed,

832
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 5: life is just easier. It's just easier to play on tour. Now.

833
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 5: There's also a bell curve on the other end, something

834
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 5: we can talk about. But for that kid, I would say,

835
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 5: remaining athletic is so freaking important. If you could play

836
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 5: other sports, great. All the parents want to specialize their

837
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 5: kids at nine, ten, eleven years old. It freaks me

838
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 5: out personally. I think you lose a lot of athleticism

839
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 5: and I think you gain a lot in playing other sports. Now,

840
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 5: if you're going to go be world number one at seventeen,

841
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 5: hey man, I understand that. But if you're going to

842
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 5: play college golf, be clear about your own goals. Hey,

843
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 5: my goal is to play Division one college golf. Great,

844
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 5: there's also Division two, there's Division three, there's a NAIA,

845
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 5: there's JUCO. Playing Division one. Isn't the end all be off?

846
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 5: You don't go to the number one school in the country.

847
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 5: That's okay golf. You can make it in a million

848
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 5: different ways. To me, I would advise them to fall

849
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 5: in love with the game and more importantly, fall in

850
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 5: love with the process, because being good at sixteen is cool.

851
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 5: You make a lot more money at twenty six now

852
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 5: with nil. Hey man, I don't know. There's a h Yeah, listen,

853
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 5: there's a bunch of dieteen yearls that drive lambos. So

854
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 5: maybe I'm an old boomer, but my advice is, hey, listen,

855
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 5: you're gonna win a lot of majors at twenty six.

856
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 5: Try to develop and learn skills, take risks. It's okay

857
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 5: to hit the ball both ways. It's okay to swing

858
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 5: as hard as you can and miss with a driver,

859
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 5: It's okay to try that crazy flop shot when you're fifteen.

860
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 5: I want to see someone who can develop, because by

861
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 5: the time you get to me, I don't work with kids.

862
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 5: I work with the best players in the world. By

863
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 5: the time you get to me, those days are over.

864
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 5: Now it's your job. Now it's a grind, and you're

865
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Speaker 5: coming to me trying to have fun, enjoy it with

866
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 5: your buddies, spend the extra hour. You know, you don't

867
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 5: know any responsibilities, you know, owt any bills. Mom and

868
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 5: dad are paying for your entry fee. Life is pretty

869
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 5: good at that age.

870
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Speaker 1: I think your point is such a great one, Niko,

871
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,479
Speaker 1: about you know, you might have goals if you don't

872
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: check that box, don't give up. Maybe now you got

873
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: to just adjust. Maybe maybe you got to adjust what

874
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: you're going to do here and there. And there are

875
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: different paths to this, right, and I think that's what

876
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 1: makes every sport cool. You know, when those those NFL

877
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: offenses will list off the colleges to start the game,

878
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: it's not all Baama, LSU in Texas, right, you got

879
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: North Dakota State. You know, you got these random colleges

880
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 1: that will pop in. You know, from time to time,

881
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: and it's just a reminder that you can get there

882
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:35,919
Speaker 1: down a different road.

883
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 2: You might just have to work a little bit harder

884
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:37,959
Speaker 2: down that road.

885
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 5: Totally. Yeah, there's there's a million opportunities in golf. There's

886
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 5: an interesting question that I've heard a really famous I've

887
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 5: heard Claude Harmon say to mini tour guys a lot

888
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 5: and he'll ask them, He'll say, why aren't you playing

889
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 5: on the tour And they'll give a million different reasons

890
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 5: and I need to do this, and he goes, no,

891
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 5: you're not playing on tours. You're not good enough. We

892
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 5: have Monday qualifiers and you can show up and play.

893
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 5: This isn't like the MLB or NFL draft to where

894
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 5: you have to play at a certain school, get drafted,

895
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 5: go to the combine. There's nothing holding you back from

896
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 5: going and shooting sixty one and playing in the big

897
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 5: leagues that week. Think about it. I can't go to

898
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 5: a baseball game, have a sick home run derby batting

899
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 5: practice and you know, back forth behind John Carlos Stanton Like,

900
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 5: it doesn't work that way. But in golf we still

901
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 5: have the most amazing democratic process of a Monday qualifier.

902
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 5: If you can afford the couple hundred bucks, which by

903
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 5: the way, I think is way too high. But that's

904
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 5: neither here nor there. And you could show up and play.

905
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 5: You get to play on tour. That is the most

906
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,240
Speaker 5: amazing thing in the world to me, And I think

907
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 5: it freaks me out that kids have. If I don't

908
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 5: do this, then I'm done. No, man, you always have

909
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 5: the opportunity to play professional golf. There's nothing stopping you.

910
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 5: It's objective. If you could shoot the score, you get

911
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 5: to play.

912
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: I think it's the line from Tim Cupbardy. I mean,

913
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: you know, it's like like I mean, you know. I mean,

914
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out and try to get into the

915
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: US Open, right, I mean if my score is better

916
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: than you, and it it's golf can be so intimidating,

917
00:40:58,520 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, it is so

918
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: silly that it is that simple, right Marty. It's like,

919
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 1: if I shoot sixty seven and you shoot sixty at eight,

920
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 1: I beat you.

921
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter who you are.

922
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: Now you're better than me, So you're gonna shoot better

923
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: than me almost every time. But I put in the

924
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: time and the work, and I find a plan, and

925
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: I find the right equipment and stuff that fits me,

926
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: and I literally invest in what I want to become.

927
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,919
Speaker 1: There might be an opportunity there for me to become

928
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 1: that one day.

929
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 4: Yep. I love Nico fall in love with the process. Man.

930
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 3: I just it reminds me of you know, Victor. You know,

931
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 3: is that his ups and downs and highs and lows.

932
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 3: But you can see how much he just loves the process,

933
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 3: you know, and so.

934
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: Loves the heavy metal too. Nico was saying, try to

935
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: get that hard going. I know, you gotta get this

936
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: the beats going in the headphone, dude.

937
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 5: So a funny thing for me is I figured out

938
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 5: very quickly I actually like metals, so it had a

939
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 5: reverse effect. And then I started listening to jazz, which

940
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 5: just was the worst for me. Chams my art, right,

941
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 5: I get all cranky, start hitting chunk wedges and thin

942
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 5: in three woods. I'm a mess out there with jazz.

943
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 2: Everybody's calming down at jazz, and you're just like you're

944
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: at your end. You're like, I have done, Nico.

945
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: Let people know where they can check out, you know,

946
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: what you guys are doing, How they can get involved plans,

947
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: they can look at what's kind of the process for

948
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: somebody lifting into the podcast.

949
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 5: So easiest way to find us is social at golf Underscore,

950
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 5: Underscore Blueprint. I am responding to all the messages. For

951
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 5: better or worse, you're gonna get me. If you send

952
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 5: us an email, you're gonna get the professor keV golf

953
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 5: blueprint dot com. And please reach out to us. I

954
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 5: always say to people. I live in Jupiter, I travel

955
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 5: a lot. If you see me on the range, come

956
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 5: up and talk to me, Come say hi. And if

957
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,919
Speaker 5: you see someone who's who's better than you at the range,

958
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 5: they're probably stoked to talk to you as well. So

959
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 5: I always trying to tell that people like please reach

960
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 5: out to me. However, I can help you whatever whatever

961
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,479
Speaker 5: we can do to to make golf more fun, because

962
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, like like we talked about,

963
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 5: if you're having more fun, you'll practice more. If you

964
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 5: practice more, you're probably gonna play a little better.

965
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: I think the I think the point on asking people

966
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 1: questions is, you know, it's an intimidating thing even as

967
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 1: an adult.

968
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 2: The kind of going back to the gym analogy.

969
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: You know, you can go up to the biggest most

970
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: jack guy in the planet. If he's at the gym,

971
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: and if you're asking that guy what they're doing, I've

972
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: done it plenty of times in my life. They will

973
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: give you an honest answer. They're not gonna look at

974
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: you like you're an idiot. They're they're actually to help

975
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: you because you're interested in what they're doing, because you

976
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: obviously are seeing whatever gains they're getting out of that.

977
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,479
Speaker 1: And the same thing can be said at the golf course.

978
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: You know, you go up to somebody that's working on

979
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: something that are hitting the ball great or you know,

980
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: is really good, like I mean, Marty. There are these

981
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: stories of VJ seeing helping out these young players that

982
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: are up and coming trying to make it on the tour,

983
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: and the stories are excellent, but it's also part of

984
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: what golf. What makes golf so great is it does

985
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: feel like people are willing to help out. I mean,

986
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: remember Steve Stricker giving tips to Tiger about the putting.

987
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: You think about Rory this year telling Scottie to go

988
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: to the mallet, Like even the best in the world

989
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: will help out the other best in the world. It

990
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: might don't work out great for everybody else that they

991
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: start winning everything, but it seems like people are are

992
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 1: open and willing to talk, so I love that Nico,

993
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 1: and I love what you guys are doing.

994
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:55,720
Speaker 2: It's super cool.

995
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time on the POT.

996
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: I hope people check out golf. We're going to help

997
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: people get something out of this, so thank you so much.

998
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 5: Appreciate you guys, Thank you for having me.

999
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 2: This is the Ping Driven Grounds podcast.

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