1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hell that for me. I'm 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 2: be happy. 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: You want to be happy for a day? Edith Steak 6 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: is that woo woom? And Dan and Tie welcome back 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: to the solid Rebel boys or girls. My name is 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: Ty Hill, the Brad that guy over there, the incomparable 9 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein again. Soliverbal dot com is our website. Go 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: on out to Verballers with an S dot com if 11 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: you want to learn more about our Patreon and get 12 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: early access to not only this show, but all of 13 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: the shows that we're doing this fall. You can also 14 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: watch shows like this one Live and Living Color as 15 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: many are right now on the Patreon feed. How are 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: you Dan? How you doing? 17 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 3: I am wonderful. I was trying to think of an 18 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 3: S word to go in front of Victory Lap after 19 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 3: my Saturday, but instead I'm I'm just gonna go one 20 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 3: at a time. Other than of course that Baylor game, 21 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 3: which we got into a heated discussion about. But I 22 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 3: I feel like I am built for chaotic, nonsensical times 23 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: within this sport. That is what fuels me, That is 24 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: what drives me. Picking through the chaos, picking through the 25 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 3: rubble of nonsense. And so I'm especially excited to dive 26 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 3: into the week four recap that we have ahead. 27 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: Come on, baby, Yeah, there is definitely the feeling, the 28 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: sense that we know Alabama and Georgia are probably, at 29 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: least through four weeks, the two best teams in the country. Yeah, 30 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: and then you can kind of make a case for 31 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: like two dozen other teams to be number three. Give 32 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: me some more energy with that, give me some more energy. 33 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 4: You know. 34 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: That's a wonderful thing. Oh, it's beautiful. It's beautiful. I know, Bill, 35 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: I'm trying to like ease by way of building in broadcasting, 36 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: building into it. But we know Bill Connolly's been trying 37 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: to will the chaos scenario into existence. It's been a while, man, 38 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: it's been a while since it felt like it could 39 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: sort of go a number of different directions. So I 40 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: am thrilled at this development. To say the absolute very least. 41 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: Would you like to go through and do reverbs? I 42 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: would love to tie. I need that emotion. Give it 43 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: to me. Let's bring the emotion. Four weight. Verbal one 44 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: was the phone number we had people calling all into 45 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: the hours of the night. Some calling while I was 46 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: actually downloading the messages, and I thought about answering. At 47 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: about twelve thirty I thought about it and just having 48 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: a conversation. But I'm like, if I do this, I 49 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: don't know what I'm going to say. Weird precedent. Yeah, 50 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: it's weird precedent to set anyway. Long last, here are 51 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: your week four reverbs. Have a listened. 52 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 5: Hi, Dan, this afternoon, I a rabid organ ducts fan 53 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 5: gets to marry the love of my life. We's a 54 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 5: diehard usc Trojans a lump as two longtime listeners. We 55 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 5: hope that you can bless this union of past all 56 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 5: hours and might soon to be white para because it's 57 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 5: a special day and I love you. I'm not ready 58 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 5: to give you back to California recruits back, but I 59 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 5: do hope your coaching church goes well. 60 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: Fight on and go Duns. 61 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 2: Hey you guys, it's Robert and Jackson Wyomi go. And 62 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,679 Speaker 2: it's Nathan from Gothenburg, Sweden. 63 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Sean in Philadelphia. 64 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 2: Hey, this is Ryan Collins from Oklahoma. 65 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Bruce from Moose Lake, Minnesota, just calling in. 66 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: We just lost to the worst team in the country. 67 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: Your season right now, and I'm going to put on 68 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: all my camels and hide from the world. God Black. 69 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 4: Now listen to this boy to day defensive Cackles had 70 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 4: more receive receiving touchdowns than the entire Utah date offense. 71 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: Go Broncos. 72 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 4: No one, and I mean no one just waltzes into 73 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 4: the carrier Dome on a Friday night, Sean Tucker do 74 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 4: it alerts. 75 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: Go cute baby, Listen, listen. 76 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: It's not important that Mississippi State lost to elis you today. 77 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: What is important is the Mississippi State now has a 78 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: transitive win over Clemson. 79 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: And that's a weird That's a win in my books, 80 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:18,239 Speaker 2: Tales State. Hey Dan, ayis Kevin from Washington, DC watching 81 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 2: my Georgia Bulldogs play Vandy. 82 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: It's thirty five to zero in the first quarter. This 83 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: doesn't even feel good anymore. Man, Let the kids go home. 84 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: This is just sad. 85 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 5: Well now eight and a hoff minutes into the game, 86 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 5: and if my master's christ Dorthus is on pasty squater. 87 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: One hundred and eighty seven points today. 88 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 4: Hey Dan, hope that next pizza you make has a 89 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 4: little bit of crow on top. 90 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: Sicken bears, Dan and Tye. It's Harrison and Iowa. I'm 91 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: wondering if either of you has any eligibility left and 92 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: could come play. 93 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: Special teams for my cyclones. 94 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 5: Thanks. 95 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: Hey, Danaki, this is Grant from Omahon. Oh there's another 96 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 2: terrible always state special teams play. 97 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: Just wondering, Dan, how's that Iowa State Locke coming sick. 98 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: Of bear this point. 99 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 5: I'll let you know to Auburn. 100 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: One very handily against Georgia State. 101 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: There's nothing to see here. 102 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: Definitely no quarter that controversy on the plane, but the 103 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: thing was no, you need to, you know, unpack this 104 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: sent off. Thanks Davo Swimmy more like Devo Lope. Well 105 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: fucking up. 106 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: I'm a NC State bread and a Notre Dame fan. 107 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: Today has been all right, all right, all right the 108 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 2: words of a certain friend of the podcast. Y'all please 109 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: do anything you can to hire Tony Elliott on solid 110 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 2: verbal and get him off to Clemson staff. 111 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: Hi, is this the passing game helpline? Yeah, it's Michigan. 112 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: We could really use your help. Oliver instate just enough 113 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: today so we can keep a little bit of faith 114 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: in them. But hey, got to win your records clunkers, right, 115 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:07,799 Speaker 1: go blue. 116 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 2: The Nebraska loss is the equivalent of your neighbor's dog 117 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: breaking into your home and eating your dinner right out 118 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: of the crock pot. I'm scared. 119 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: Is it time to talk to my kids about an 120 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: undefeated Michigan. 121 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 5: State Penn State? 122 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: Uh one? I guess I'm just happy to say Horns 123 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: pulled out a seventy point win today and I don't 124 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 2: feel so bad about losing Arkansas. 125 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: I know how to talk to my kids about an 126 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: undefeated Iowa, But how do I talk to my kids 127 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: about thirty to fifty federal haws run through my yard? 128 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 2: Blue pig silly? 129 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: From here on out, I will be calling Sam Tittman 130 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: big Sexy because he's the most beautiful and beloved man 131 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: in the state of Arkansas. 132 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 4: Blue pig. 133 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all, come on down, Jerry Rod. Now, we got 134 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: big posts fit, we got pigs in a blanket, we 135 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: got deep crab bait, we got sausage, we got bacon. 136 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: It's going to be an Arkansas razorback hook out. 137 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 5: Yeah. 138 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 4: Day like this, which remind me why I don't gamble. 139 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: Alrighty, there you go. A powerhouse set of reverbs. Those 140 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: are the words of Dylan our guy puts them together, 141 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: not mine, but look, I could use many other superlatives 142 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: Dan to define our reverb segment. It's so much fun 143 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: every week. We appreciate everybody calling in. When you and 144 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: I were on the slack early this morning, Yeah, you 145 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: mentioned stomach bug Saturday. Yeah, so we had labeled it 146 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: scratch and sniff Saturday for those who aren't familiar. We 147 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: do this because ESPN likes to label Saturday is the 148 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: deeper we get into the season, show me Saturday, separation Saturday. 149 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: We like to get a little bit more creative with it. 150 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: Scratch and sniff Saturday is what we settled on when 151 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: we did the previews show. But in hindsight, we always 152 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: like to kind of look back and see how close 153 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: we were or weren't. Stomach bug Saturday feels at pros. Damn. Yeah. 154 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,119 Speaker 3: I just remember going away to a like a snow 155 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 3: trip to Lake Tahoe and the family I was with 156 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 3: the family of actually friend of the show, A line 157 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 3: I fan Scott. Everybody came down with the stomach bug. 158 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 3: I don't know if everybody ate the same thing. I 159 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 3: felt fine. Everybody was just running in and out of 160 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 3: the bathroom, and everybody just caught something. 161 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 2: You know. 162 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 3: I know it's a weird time to make contagious comparisons 163 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 3: to things, but let me assure you. This was not 164 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 3: flu like symptoms. It was just a stomach bug. This 165 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 3: was not something serious. And I guess in this scenario 166 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 3: and this analogy, I'm Oregon State. I don't even know, 167 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 3: I don't know who I am right now, but everybody 168 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 3: just seemed to be sort of I can't get too 169 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,599 Speaker 3: far away from a bathroom. In college football, even in 170 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 3: winning efforts, there were deep intestinal competitive concerns. And so 171 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 3: I personally felt great about it because a lot of 172 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 3: both short term, medium term, and long term viewpoints that 173 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 3: I've held for some time seemed to really get underscored 174 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: on Saturday. So selfishly, and I know, I'm just going 175 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 3: to be wrong about everything next week or the week after. 176 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 3: That's how it works. Everything evens out. But it was 177 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 3: it was entertaining, it was wild, and it was it 178 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 3: was silly. It was a silly Saturday. So I'm quite 179 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 3: excited to talk about it, both from a personal and 180 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 3: just big picture point of view. 181 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: It really does feel like we are steering into a 182 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: season that's going to get crazy. Yeah, there's going to 183 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: be craziness that unfolds over the next you know, eight 184 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: ten weeks or so. It's how many teams? How many teams? 185 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 3: Does saying counterpoint they might kind of suck? Does that 186 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 3: apply for Does it apply pretty much everybody? 187 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 4: Dan? 188 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much everybody outside Bama, probably outside Georgia. But 189 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: chaos in this sport is when it's at its most interesting. 190 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: And I think you can say that about a lot 191 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: of teams. Again, I lad with Who's number three? I 192 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: don't know, we can maybe talk about that, but there 193 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: are plenty of teams now who I think have risen 194 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: to the top of the standings, some who aren't familiar 195 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 1: with being there, some who maybe are more familiar but 196 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: have serious flaws that have yet to be uncovered by 197 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: the proper opponents. So we're going to get into all 198 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: that and much much more. But we do have the 199 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: full week four slate here in front of us, and 200 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: let's start with the NC State game. Dan, Yeah, on 201 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: the first stop on the search for Snapple, Who's number three? 202 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: Remember when Snaple had that We're number three? Yeah, So 203 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: the first stop would be NC State Clemson. As Clemson 204 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: tries to make that case valiantly Clemson. This game went 205 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: to double overtime. NC State wins by a twenty seven 206 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: to twenty one score. They had a couple chances to 207 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: win it, but their kicker couldn't stop missing field goals. Correct, 208 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: But what a great win for NCI State. You know, 209 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: it's been a decade since they pulled off the win 210 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 1: over Clemson last time. We got to go back to 211 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: Tom O'Brien to find the last time that that happened. 212 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 1: We knew it was going to be tough for them 213 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,599 Speaker 1: to move the football against Clemson's defense, and it was. 214 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: They stayed committed to the run, which if you went 215 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: out on YouTube and watch the reaction video that we 216 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: posted out there, I kind of commend them for sticking 217 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: to it. Even though it wasn't necessarily the most effective 218 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: game plan, it did give enough of a balance that 219 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: Devin Leary it wasn't all on him, right, It was 220 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 1: enough of a different look that he could kind of 221 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: settle in and make big plays, and he looked really good. 222 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: Four touchdowns, no picks, you know, including a couple of 223 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: big throws down the stretch that ultimately propelled NC State 224 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: to victory. Here, you know, where do you want to 225 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: start here? Are do we want to talk about the 226 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: Clemson offense. I don't really want to make this all 227 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: about Clemson because it was a big win for NC State, 228 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: but I do feel a little bit like the national 229 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: narrative will shift to, Hey, what's wrong with Clemson. 230 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 3: Definitely, yeah, I think we give NC State it's due 231 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 3: at the top. By the way, Devin to Devin Carter 232 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 3: with that sensational catch right right at the end of 233 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 3: that game that I mean helped propel to win. Yeah, 234 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 3: Devin Leary was he was fine. I think the big 235 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 3: sat is what you mentioned that he didn't turn the 236 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 3: ball over. He wasn't throwing the ball downfield all that 237 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 3: accurately or all that often successfully. But they the win 238 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 3: was paced with defense and running and ball control and 239 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 3: a lack of mistakes and taking advantage of Clemson's I 240 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 3: don't know what they're kind of going for on offense. 241 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 3: You watch that that offense, and Tony Elliott's been there forever. 242 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 3: Dju has the experience. He's been there in that program 243 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 3: for a year. You know, justin Ross comes back. They've 244 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 3: had receivers in this program. The offensive line is an 245 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 3: experience unit. It's like they all got together in the 246 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 3: offseason and came to all of the wrong conclusion about 247 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 3: where this off seat. Like they all went away to 248 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 3: a cab and be like, all right, this is what 249 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 3: we're doing. And it was just a nightmare plan because 250 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 3: I think schematically they don't seem to be all that creative. 251 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 3: They're running DJU at key times, he's he looks off 252 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 3: throwing the ball. The offensive line, I don't know. It 253 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 3: just seems like a very average offensive line at best 254 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 3: for a team that experienced and recruiting on the level 255 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 3: that they do. So I imagine changes are going to 256 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 3: be made and there's probably a fascinating story to be 257 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 3: written about what has happened these past couple of years 258 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 3: at Clemson. But I I just NC State at home. 259 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 3: The ability to survive those field goal misses, especially at 260 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 3: the end brutal didn't see that coming. That normally spells like, well, 261 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 3: they had a shot, and Clemson's one of those teams 262 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 3: it's just good enough to hang around and win a 263 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 3: clunker like that. So man, that really speaks to the 264 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 3: depths to which Clemson's offense has fallen. But again, good 265 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 3: Frenzy State for getting it done at the end. 266 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: Huge, big, big, big deal for the wolf Pack. They 267 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: finally get the monkey off their back. We'd be remiss 268 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: if we did not mention some of the injuries that 269 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: are mounting for Clemson as well. Totally. Will Shipley there, 270 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: stand out freshman running back who seemingly just stepped into 271 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: that starting role as of like a week ago. I 272 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: haven't seen the readout on him. It didn't look good 273 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: on the replay. Looked like it's a knee injury, so 274 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: he might be out for some time. Brian Brazy went down, 275 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: James Skolsky went down. That's on top of Tyler Davis 276 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: who was already down on the defensive line. And look, 277 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,719 Speaker 1: they've got talent. Ultimately, Clemson's still probably the top dog 278 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: in the ACC. But why why who else is it 279 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: going to be? Dan Georgia Tech? 280 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 4: Right now? 281 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: It is Georgia Tech. Okay, eventually though, you're going to 282 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: get to it. They just be North Carolina and they 283 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: almost be Clemson. No, it's NC State. Yeah, Eventually, you're 284 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: gonna get to point with these injuries where you just 285 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: don't have anyone to fill them in with. But Clemson's 286 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: in that space where they have the guys. They are 287 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: deeper than any team in the conference. So that's it's 288 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: not fully an excuse relative to the rest of the 289 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: of the conference. It's being tested for sure. At this 290 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: early juncture after week four, it does feel like the 291 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: ACC is wide open, though, and that's for the first 292 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: time in a long time we can say that. I agree. 293 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: The offensive identity for Clemson feels all off. Look at 294 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: the play calling in overtime. It was just whatever DJ 295 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: can do, that's what we're gonna do. Yeah, pretty much 296 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: it That was the extent of the game plan. So 297 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: they got a lot of figuring out to do here 298 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: over the next couple of weeks. But the ACC, watch 299 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: this Spaceman, watch Wake, watch NC State, the Boston College, Yeah, 300 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: Boston College. Never I saw Bill. 301 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 3: Ce mentioned sp plus has the ACC as like his 302 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 3: widest variance conference like it makes the least sense given 303 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 3: the production and results thus far, of any of the 304 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 3: the FBS conferences that he measures. So yeah, it makes 305 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 3: full sense. And by the way, Clemson two of twelve 306 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 3: on third and fourth downs. That's not good, not good enough. 307 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: Let's go out to your neck of the woods Soldier 308 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: Field in Chicago, Land forty one to thirteen is your final. 309 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: The Notre Dame fighting Irish up and the was constant 310 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: Beager's dan. This was a close game most of the way. 311 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: It was thirteen to ten with about fourteen minutes left 312 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. But the ensuing kickoff is run 313 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: back ninety six yards from Chris Tyree, who Mama h 314 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: I was watching with her immediately screams out because he's 315 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: wearing number twenty five like rocket. Ish Meal immediately screams out, 316 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: that's like the rocket, that's like the rocket. We're jumping around, 317 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: we're all all excited. But that was the spark for 318 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: this Notre Dame team. Now they didn't necessarily do it 319 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: with their offense. We could talk about that separately, but 320 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: at least on special teams with that Tyree play, and 321 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: then defense, especially in the secondary, two pick sixes to 322 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: close this game out, to eventually widen that margin, and 323 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: I think make it look like a little bit more 324 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: of a beating than it was. I will say this 325 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: about Notre Dame and then I'll shut up and let 326 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: you talk for a few minutes. I know Wisconsin does 327 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: not exactly have an electric offense. 328 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 3: You should be talking for a few minutes. This is 329 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 3: your team and the game that a picked completely incorrectly. 330 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: You should talk. I took the points. Excuse me, I 331 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: took the points. I did think Wisconsin would win. But 332 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: eventually this line ballooned up to six and a half, 333 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: which was a lot. I felt like a lot. Wisconsin 334 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: does not have an electric offense by any stretch. But 335 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: even with that being said, this was a quantum bleep 336 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: forward for Notre Dame defensively because they've given up a 337 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: ton of big plays this year. They've looked out a 338 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: sink for a good chunk of the season. Five turnovers 339 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: for Graham Mertz, four picks, one fumble, Wisconsin held to 340 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: one of thirteen on third downs. They were just eighteen 341 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: of forty one passing. Again, I understand we're not talking about, 342 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: you know, a Mike Leach offense here, which is just 343 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: all gas, no breaks. But nonetheless, this is a big 344 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: deal for Notre Dame that they were able to hold 345 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: down Wisconsin in the manner that they could and did, 346 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: and then get some points on defense. I was really 347 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: feeling pretty good about this, knowing that they're going into 348 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: a tougher part of their schedule with teams like Cincinnati and. 349 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 3: Mike Leach's offense, for the record, was not all that good. 350 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 3: There were plenty of breaks within that offense. Mike Leach's 351 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 3: Texas Tech offense. Sure, okay, fair enough. Yeah, this is 352 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 3: a game between two quarterbacks who are substandard. They are 353 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 3: not quarterbacks capable of leading probably top ten teams. I 354 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 3: don't know if we've ever seen any evidence of Graham 355 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 3: Mertz in that regard. I know Wisconsin's offense and philosophy 356 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 3: in general was you know, I saw Ari Wasserman tweeting 357 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 3: about how you know, Wisconsin seriously needs to look inward 358 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 3: and you know this is their identity whatever, But they're 359 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 3: gonna be games like this and Paul Christ's record against 360 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 3: the better teams Wisconsin has played these past few years. Yeah, 361 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 3: not only do they not win, they don't even cover 362 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 3: like they just they've they've them up flat more and more. 363 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 3: And I don't think they need to change anything dramatically. 364 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 3: I just think it's possible, and it walks an awkward 365 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 3: line that things need to be tweaked. The offensive line 366 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 3: isn't where it was, running back isn't where it was 367 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 3: these past few you know, decade. Whatever you want to 368 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 3: call it. I know they've had years where you know, 369 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 3: they didn't have Monty Ball, they didn't have you know, 370 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor tailback. But I just I just don't think 371 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 3: they have guys to mount a top ten team, at 372 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 3: least the offense. The offense is half of it. And similarly, 373 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 3: it can be said of Notre Dame that like their 374 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 3: offensive line has taken a significant step back from where 375 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 3: it was these past few years, and you know, making 376 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 3: the change at offensive line coach what two years ago 377 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 3: has finally, you know, the evidence has mounted that this 378 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 3: is not a cohesive unit. They're beat up. You know, 379 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 3: quarterback recruiting has been okay. But if if you're left 380 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 3: with Jack Cone trying to compete against Wisconsin and not, 381 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 3: you know, just running for his life for a good 382 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,479 Speaker 3: chunk of this game, that these are teams that are 383 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 3: are not fielding top ten caliber squads, and that's okay, fine, 384 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 3: It was fine saying he was running for his life. 385 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 3: He was fine in this game, and that wasn't his fault. 386 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 3: He was fine in this game. 387 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: He actually ended up getting hurt, and because Tyler Buckner 388 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 1: had a hamstring injury, Drew Pine took over and Drew 389 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: Pines a little undersize is like five to eleven. He's 390 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: from Connecticut. They talked about it on the broadcast. Dare 391 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: I say a little bit of Baker Mayfield in him? 392 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: Dare say the third string Notre Dame quarterback a little 393 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: bit of Banner Mayfield, a little bit of Baker Mayfield 394 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: in him. He came in, he threw a touchdown. I 395 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: thought looked pretty good. Gave them a little bit of 396 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: a spark. On offense, you know, Notre Dame's in a 397 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: different spot though offensively than Wisconsin. I agree. Wisconsin doesn't 398 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: have dudes. I don't know who's gonna frighten me on 399 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: the Wisconsin offense. Notre Dame has guys. They're trying to 400 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: figure out how to use them, right Kyraen Williams of 401 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: Chris Tyree can't run as well as they'd like because 402 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: the offense of line is in shambles. Jack Cohne is 403 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: not necessarily the guy that they won in there if 404 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: they're going to have to throw the ball fifty times 405 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: a game, But if he can develop some of those 406 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 1: weapons outside of Michael Maher, If Kevin Austin steps up, 407 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: if Avery Davis continues his rides as some of these 408 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: other weapons that they have out wide continue to improve. 409 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: The offense is in a much much different place than Wisconsin, 410 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: so I feel like on the whole, if they can 411 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: figure out that line, they're going to be in a 412 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: much much better spot. Perhaps that's the most obvious statement 413 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: in the world, but they need to get the line 414 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: sorted out, and it seems like the skill talent is there. 415 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: We'll have to wait and see what happens with Cone. 416 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: I don't think the injury is too severe, but if 417 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: he can't go, maybe Buckner will be healthy. Next week 418 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: we see more of him or Drew Pine again, who 419 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: again for his part, looked okay. They do have Cincinnati though, 420 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: and Cincinnati I think is a different breed a team. 421 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that on the Wednesday preview. On the 422 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: Wisconsin side, They've got Michigan next week. They do, and 423 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: we'll talk about Michigan in their game against Rutgers. But 424 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: Wisconsin's in a spot here, man. They've got Michigan, They've 425 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: got Iowan schedule later this year. If this is the 426 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: version of the Badgers that we're gonna get, don't count 427 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: out Nebraska. Don't count out freaking Rutgers, Like, yeah, it 428 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: just wasn't was it the kind of showing that you 429 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: feel great about if you're a Wisconsin fan. And finally, 430 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: Brian Kelly, by the way, the now winningest coach in 431 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: Notre Dame football history, saw that past New Rogby with 432 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: one hundred and six. It should be mentioned, though, that 433 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: Notre Dame was playing against one of probably the best 434 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: five or seven defenses in the country. It's a tall 435 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: task to score a ton of points with, you know, 436 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: sustained offensive drives or explosive plays on offense against Wisconsin's defense. 437 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: Like all credit should be given to Wisconsin's defense in 438 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: terms of their own ability, Notre Dame's defense is a 439 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: little bit more gettable. I think you look at what 440 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: you know, Florida State was able to accomplish even Toledo 441 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: at times produe like there are teams that have moved 442 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: the ball against defense. It is gettable. Yeah, they have 443 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: looked better your last two games totally. There have been 444 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: moments now where it seems like they're starting to put 445 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: it together. And was impressed by the secondary. Again, Graham 446 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: Mertz is not Joe Montana, no, but I thought the 447 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: secondary played really, really well yesterday, and there aren't a 448 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: whole lot of teams in the schedule that are going 449 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: to be able to throw for four hundred yards or 450 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: three hundred yards or even two hundred yards against you. 451 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: But just to have that defense playing at a better level, 452 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: I think elevates the ceiling for this team. 453 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 3: By the way, how many how many teams? And both 454 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 3: use Notre Dame Wisconsin as an example, but across the country, 455 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 3: and we can dip into this thought across the matchups 456 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 3: that we're going to talk about, how many teams can, 457 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 3: in ernest say, huh, our passing offense is surprisingly improved 458 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 3: and decent? Like how many like Virginia, maybe Texas, Oregon State? Yeah, 459 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 3: like how many can Arkansas? Like it's a real small 460 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 3: smattering of teams who are hopeful for passing improvement and 461 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 3: receivers stepping up and offensive lines protecting and quarterbacks becoming 462 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 3: a little bit more fearless and accurate going downfield. I 463 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 3: don't know, it feels like there are four and a 464 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 3: half teams who are surprisingly happy with their their passing improvement, 465 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 3: which is not as many as I had hoped there 466 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 3: would be. So I think that's sort of a theme 467 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 3: like when you look across football, we can get into 468 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 3: the Oklahoma games soon, we can get into all sorts 469 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 3: of matchups. We're like, man, they just don't have it 470 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 3: through the air, and we thought they'd at least be 471 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 3: a little better. So that to me was definitely thematic 472 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 3: of you know, Auburn, all these teams of Week four, 473 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 3: Let's move over to the altar of dan if we could, please, 474 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 3: let's take it back. 475 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: You're gonna talk Iowa State Baylor? Is that what we're doing. No, 476 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about Arkansas and Texas. What a wine, 477 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: What a dub for the Hogs man. One of the 478 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: best freaking stories in college football right now. It keeps 479 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: getting better every week. Happens every year where you got 480 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: a couple team, teams that get off to a better 481 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: start than you would expect, and then we're always in 482 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: the tough spot of having to figure out is this 483 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: team actually good or is it fools gold. I don't 484 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: think Arkansas's fools gold. I think it's real. I think 485 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: this is a real thing. I don't know if they 486 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: win the SEC probably not. But like going from this 487 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: place we were in the preseason where we're looking at 488 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: Arkansas schedule, and we're saying, oh, boy, they could get 489 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: a lot better and still go four and eight to 490 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: now this spot where they're a fringe top ten team. 491 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: I'm assuming in the next pole whenever that comes out, 492 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: they are four and oh got a monster game next 493 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: week at Georgia, which is suddenly like one of the 494 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: biggest games of the week. A and M, mind you, 495 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: without its quarterback, but playing incredible defense all year long. 496 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: They hadn't allowed more than two hundred and thirty two 497 00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: passing yards in either of their first three games. Arkansas 498 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: had two hundred and twenty nine at half. Yeah, so 499 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: this is an offense is playing well with kJ Jefferson. 500 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 1: It's a defense that I saw somebody jokingly or maybe 501 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: not so jokingly, compared them to the eighty five Bears. 502 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: Like they're playing real well right now, Dan, this is 503 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: a real freaking team. 504 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 3: It is a real team who held on in real 505 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 3: impressive fashion. By the way, that's Kent State, Colorado, New Mexico, 506 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 3: those teams that Texas A and M held down those 507 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 3: first few weeks. Just to be clear, I was worried 508 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 3: about A and M's offense and the ability to move 509 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 3: the ball going against this Texas A and M defense, 510 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 3: just because of the skill level and talent that was 511 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 3: brought back. I didn't necessarily see that first half coming 512 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 3: offensively in A and M and Mike Elko did a 513 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 3: terrific job adjusting in the second half. They held him 514 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 3: to what three points in the second half. Now, kJ 515 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 3: Jefferson goes down. Treylon Burks was allegedly beat up during 516 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 3: the week, was in a walking boot, but he played 517 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 3: and was an absolute dude. And then but he does 518 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 3: end up leaving in that game. And outside of what 519 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 3: it was an Isaiah Spiller sixty seven yard run up 520 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 3: the gut in the second half. Was in the second half, 521 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 3: I believe there were no touchdown drives. There was nothing 522 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 3: in terms of sustained success on offense for Texas A 523 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 3: and M. Granted backup quarterback going against what we think 524 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 3: and still believe to be a pretty dangerous defense in Arkansas, 525 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 3: bringing in the transfers that they did, getting the linebacker 526 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 3: play that they have. But Arkansas has now beaten Texas 527 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 3: and Texas A and M. They are the kings of Texas. 528 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 3: The Hogs are the Kings of Texas. 529 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: I love that in Texas, Dan. 530 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 3: The conversation now shifts to I mean you were talking 531 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 3: about who's number three nationally? Who's number three in the SEC? 532 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 3: Is it Arkansas or Texas? 533 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:48,239 Speaker 1: Excuse me? Is it Arkansas or Florida? Probably? I mean 534 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: it's it's a conversation anyway, which is that old wild question? Okay? 535 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 3: I think Arkansas has better wins and has has shown 536 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 3: more to be you know, old miss had to buy 537 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 3: this week and we'll certainly learn not more. I think 538 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 3: they have Bama right next week. But that's to me, 539 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 3: the question is who has impressed you more thus far? 540 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 3: In Arkansas or Florida for that number three spot? If 541 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 3: you're going to pencil in Georgia at number two. 542 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: No, I mean what Arkansas has done in year two, 543 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: whatever year is or Sam Pittan now, time flies, It's 544 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: been remarkable. This is a team that is playing really 545 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: well as a team right now. On the A and 546 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: M side. The offense is really just off. Yeah, it's 547 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: not good. They're without Haines King, we know about that, 548 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: but the line is beat up and not that good. Yeah, 549 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: they've got some real issues that they got to work 550 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: out there, and you know it, it will not get 551 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: easier going through an SEC schedule, it's clear that the 552 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: season is not unfolding in the early going for A 553 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: and M the way that they had hoped. But still 554 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: have the defense. And I still agree Jimbo got a 555 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: million and a half extra dollars, so it unfolded the 556 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: way he hoped. It's fine for Jimbo. It's fine for 557 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: Jimbo making a nine MILLI year or whatever it is. 558 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: But if you are A and M fans not going 559 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: according to the plan, if you are Arkansas, I think 560 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: you're thrilled that you're able to score twenty points on 561 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: this defense because it's a really good defense. They're trying 562 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: their best. They just they can't do everything for A 563 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: and M. They need a little bit offensive help. Yeah, 564 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: and fingers crossed kJ Jefferson. 565 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 3: I think it was his knee that he went to 566 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 3: the injury tent with Millik Hornsby came in and made 567 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 3: some plays just that Traylon Burk's heels up. That you 568 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 3: know these guys are able to get healthy as quickly 569 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 3: as humanly possible, because what a time it must be 570 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 3: to be a hog. 571 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 2: Wow. 572 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 3: Man, I tried to explain it to you, I know, 573 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 3: I said, if you feel something in your loins, lean 574 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 3: in it. Now is the time for enthusiasm. 575 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, speaking of which, Dan, I made a pick 576 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: in the Big Twelve that I believe you told me 577 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: that I actouldly quote have fun with and I did. Yeah, 578 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: Oh you nailed this. Now you know. It's sort of 579 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: a what a blind squirrel kind of situation? It might be. 580 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: It could be a a blind squirrel situation. Let's go 581 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: from the altar of Dan to high atop the totem 582 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: of Tie, because when we're up here, we're up atop 583 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: the totem, we can just sort of see the landscape. Yeah, 584 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: it's like those climbing pictures that Chris Fowler posts on Instagram. 585 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: When I'm up here, I'm in my happy place. I 586 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: can see the college football world for what it is. 587 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: And I identified a matchup here, went against the grain 588 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: of the mainstream lame stream media and decided I was 589 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: going to go Baylor money line, and I got damn 590 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: lucky home dog. Yeah, home dog, Dan rubbed off. I 591 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: guess it must have. I don't know. I would characterize 592 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: this win as an opportunistic win for Baylor because there 593 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: were no stats that popped here. But it sort of 594 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: had the notes of let's say a Michigan State, Michigan 595 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: State win in that it was good team football. Too 596 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: many penalties in the game. They got to clean that up. 597 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: I thought they cleaned it up after Week one. I 598 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: guess not. But otherwise we talk a lot on this 599 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: show about moments. How you gotta win moments, that's how 600 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: you win football games. And Baylor did that. They did that, 601 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: especially on special teams by Tristan Ebner in the second half. 602 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: He ran back a kick, he had a long punt 603 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: return that set up what amounted to a really big 604 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: field goal. Yeah, to give them enough separation in order 605 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: to win this game. But I thought across the board, 606 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: like just they did enough as a team to get 607 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: over the hump here against Iowa State, Gary Bohannon was good. 608 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: He was a fishing He accounted for three touchdowns in 609 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: the first half outside of a fumble to open up 610 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: the second half. He just thought he was really solid. 611 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: The defense was good enough. Bruce Hall went off had 612 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: a buck ninety on the round two touchdowns, but the 613 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: defense held its own, did what it needed to do 614 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: and Iowa State damn near came back in the second half. 615 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: This is one of those games that if your Baylor, 616 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: it tests your metal, like what are you made of 617 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: to hold off a team like an Iowa State that 618 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: we knew was not going to go down quietly? But 619 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: then the special teams plays jumped out again to the 620 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: two kick returns, though the one off the kickoff and 621 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: the other off the punt. Iowa State eventually comes back 622 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,959 Speaker 1: to within a two point conversion, but Brock Party fumbles 623 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: a snap and then throws an interception, which is about 624 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: part of the courses here for Party. So we are 625 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: now in a spot Dan where Iowa status two losses, 626 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: Baylor has none, and suddenly I didn't even have it 627 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: on my sheet for week five. But Baylor on the 628 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: road against Oklahoma State next week's a pretty damn big matchup. 629 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 5: It is. 630 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 3: Indeed, I'm just picturing you ahead of making that Baylor 631 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 3: pick pouring over like practice special teams fo that you 632 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 3: acquired from like Cherry Picker film, just back. 633 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: And forth and just like they're not staying in their lanes. 634 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: They're not staying in their lanes. No, they're not staying 635 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: in their lanes. 636 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 3: I got a roll here with Baylor, Like you're, well, 637 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 3: I don't remember the name of the guy from the 638 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 3: Big Short As he's pouring over like the housing, he's like, 639 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 3: something's not adding up, something's not heading up. 640 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: Keep betting against Iowa State. Yeah, it's just it's tough 641 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: for Iowa State. 642 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 3: We talked about this in our preseason Big twelve preview 643 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 3: and it sort of came to pass as well, Like 644 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 3: they're trying to win with tight ends and a running back. 645 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 3: And that's awesome when it works. If you have that 646 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 3: combination of defensive playmakers, a running back in Breeze Hall 647 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 3: who you can build an offense around, and two really 648 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 3: terrific tight ends, it's great. But at a certain point 649 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 3: a defense is gonna say, no receivers changress here. So 650 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 3: we shouldn't be like Tarik Milton Xavier Hutchinson, like we 651 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 3: shouldn't be all that terrified of them to keep safeties 652 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 3: back and eventually you need that to score thirty five points, 653 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 3: you just do. And for Baylor to get the special 654 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 3: teams plays that they did was awesome. For the Bears, 655 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 3: get your wins however you freaking can, and Baylor. 656 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 1: Did at home. As I still believe to be like 657 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: a top twenty quality Iowa State team. 658 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 3: So great win. And I don't know who's running the 659 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 3: Iowa State special teams. I don't know if it's like 660 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 3: a part time guy who runs a sandwich shop five 661 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 3: days a week. And yeah, yeah, I don't know who's 662 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 3: doing it. I don't know what those film sessions are 663 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 3: looking like. But let's fill some lanes and make some 664 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 3: tackles on coverage. 665 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, look, I'm not totally sold on Baylor as 666 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: fixing all of their issues and emerging from the pandemic 667 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: cloud as one of the contenders now in the Big Twelve. 668 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: I'm not going to go that far. This is a 669 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: nice win for them. They played again, good team football 670 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: to did what they had to do to get the dub, 671 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: probably a little closer down the stretch than they would 672 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: have liked given the way that they started this football game. 673 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: But that aside, huge win. They've got a big game 674 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: next week against Oklahoma State. I will be very curious 675 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,720 Speaker 1: to see what that point spread is because this strikes 676 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: me as a kind of game that is ripe for 677 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: a hangover, ripe for a hangover, and you go Oklahoma State, 678 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 1: especially since Okay State looked pre damn good in their 679 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: own right. 680 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 3: And they could probably beat Baylor again not scoring in 681 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 3: the second half, which they haven't done now for two 682 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 3: straight weeks. Sorry, I'm still on the Iowa State special 683 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 3: teams coach. Now I'm picturing Matt Campbell's sister convincing him 684 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 3: to hire her husband because he needs an activity to 685 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 3: get out of the house. Let's just let him coach 686 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 3: special teams. Let Frank coach special teams. 687 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: What could go wrong? 688 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 5: Man? 689 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: We are Yeah. Baylor wins by a thirty one to 690 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: twenty nine score. Again, that came down to the final 691 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: two point conversion. Yeah. Oklahoma, oh boy m hm Oklahoma sixteen, 692 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: West Virginia thirteen. Oklahoma needed a thirty yard field goal 693 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: at the gun to win this game. Also, that kick 694 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,280 Speaker 1: was the very first time all game that they grabbed 695 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: the lead, So they were either trailing or tied the 696 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: entire duration of this football game until that last kick. 697 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: So first off credit where it's due. West Virginia played 698 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: a great game. The defense is defense. Is hear me out? 699 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: Hear me out? The defense will I think we would 700 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,959 Speaker 1: agree is legit. It's a good defense. They seemed good. Yeah, 701 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: they definitely did seem good. They seemed good. So the defense. 702 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: If all you have is a defense that seems good, 703 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 1: that'll get your places in twenty twenty one with what 704 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: we're seeing Oklahoma. Yeah, against Oklahoma in particular, you can 705 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: work with that. So I think West Virginia is a 706 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: very good defense. It's a two to two team that 707 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: could have won this game. Frankly, if they got one 708 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: or two more opportunities to go their way. They were 709 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,919 Speaker 1: really out there. The rest of the schedule is going 710 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,359 Speaker 1: to be difficult. I still cannot pave an obvious path 711 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 1: to getting to six wins, but this was a promising 712 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: road performance against what we thought was going to be 713 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: an electric offense. That being said, Daniel, Yeah, we are 714 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: now through the month of September. We're four weeks into 715 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: the year, and three of Oklahoma's four wins have been 716 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: particularly ugly on offense. Right, West Virginia very much followed 717 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 1: a blueprint that we saw last week from Nebraska in 718 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,240 Speaker 1: that they just try to bottle up the big plays. 719 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 1: Don't let Oklahoma blow the lid offya allow some underneath stuff, sure, 720 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: give them a couple chunk plays here and there, but 721 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: just don't let any of the big stuff kill you. 722 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 1: And that's what they did. It worked to great avail 723 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: three hundred and thirteen total yards for Oklahoma, which feels 724 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: ridiculous that it would be that low for a lot 725 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,320 Speaker 1: of teams. That's fine, but not for Oklahoma. So have 726 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: we now arrived at the point where we are confident 727 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 1: in saying that, yeah, something's wrong with this Oklahoma offense. 728 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, And it's probably the line. I mean 729 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 3: that the time Spencer Rattler had seemed different than usual 730 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 3: for what we're used to with Oklahoma. I think what 731 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 3: it also just highlights is the fact that you can't 732 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 3: skate by, at least in twenty twenty one, with what 733 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 3: you were and what your perceptions were and what you 734 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 3: used to have and be able to do, Like we 735 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 3: want to keep believing and we probably still at least 736 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 3: some of us in Clemson, in Oklahoma and teams like 737 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 3: that in Notre Dame, in Wisconsin, whatever, just because we're 738 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 3: used to a certain like a bar of success that 739 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 3: they don't go under, where it's very difficult to see 740 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,439 Speaker 3: anything resembling what we're used to with Oklahoma in terms 741 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 3: of separating from the rest of the conference when they're 742 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 3: getting beat up front consistently. Now I don't think this 743 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 3: was a fun game for West Virginia fans. They're getting 744 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 3: all too used to seeing a team that is sort 745 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 3: of a seventeen point team plus or minus a few 746 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,919 Speaker 3: right in against some of the weaker teams will score 747 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 3: twenty to twenty four against some of the stronger teams 748 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 3: will score, you know, ten to eighteen. Like, I don't 749 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 3: know if it's jarreted daggy thing. I don't know if 750 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 3: it's an offensive line thing, whatever it is, like, they 751 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 3: don't have playmakers. They don't have the creativity right now 752 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 3: where they should. They've proven an ability to recruit those guys. 753 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 3: I just it had to have been torturous as a 754 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 3: West Virginia fan knowing that an upset on the road 755 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 3: in the most difficult place to play in the conference 756 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 3: was within your grasp and they're just there was just mistakes. 757 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 3: There was just constant mistakes and an inability to stretch 758 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 3: in Oklahoma defense out at least a little bit. I 759 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 3: know that broad and Garrett Green, the backup quarterback, he 760 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 3: made a couple of throws, but nothing crazy. They's just 761 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 3: West Virginia is searching, and it's very strange that it's 762 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 3: offense right, like West Virginia can't have nice things on 763 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 3: both sides at the same time. And so I feel 764 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 3: for Mountaineer fans because the game was certainly theirs. It 765 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 3: was a weird situation. This was it was a Herb 766 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 3: Street and Fowler calling this game. They were in Chicago 767 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 3: for game day, but then went down to Norman and 768 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 3: they had to defend Spencer Ratler because you know, the 769 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 3: student section was calling for Caleb Williams, the true freshman 770 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 3: like it just there's an underlying mess in Oklahoma right now. 771 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 3: And look, they're winning their clunkers for. 772 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: Now too many clubs, this is too many feels like. 773 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 3: An LRO team that they're just gonna lose something real dumb. 774 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 3: I thought I was gonna say, it's not dumb to 775 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 3: lose to Kansas State, that's just what they do now, 776 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 3: but something like that. I thought the Sooner defense played 777 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 3: pretty well for its part totally And on the Spencer 778 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 3: Rattler thing, getting booed by your own student sections not 779 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 3: a great look. 780 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 1: He threw a pick, It looked that good. He threw 781 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 1: a pick late in the second quarter, and then the 782 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: student sections started booing and they chanted, we want Caleb 783 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 1: we won't get Kob Williams, their their five star freshman quarterback, 784 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: Holly row. I don't know if you saw the postgame 785 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: Holly Rowe asked him about it, and they said, quote, 786 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,359 Speaker 1: I don't care, we don't care, it doesn't matter. We're 787 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: out here to win a game in they're in the stands. 788 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: I think if you read that on paper, it's like, Okay, 789 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,839 Speaker 1: that's fine. I saw the interview. It clearly pissed them off. Yeah, 790 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: of course its them off. Yeah, and I'm not holding 791 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,280 Speaker 1: that against him, but yeah, do not read that comment 792 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: and say to yourself, oh, he took it in stride. 793 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,399 Speaker 1: He did not take it astride. It pissed him off. 794 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: And I'm curious to see if it lights a fire 795 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: under the Oklahoma offense. Right a big night game at 796 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: home West Virginia, you win by three. Oklahoma's got the 797 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: full season in front of it, they really do. If 798 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: they get their act together, if they play like I 799 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: think we all expect them to play, they're gonna be fine. 800 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: They're gonna be just fine. But maybe this is the moment, 801 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 1: Maybe this is the thing that kind of propels them 802 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:45,879 Speaker 1: now to greater things. 803 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 3: Who knows, I know This is like first world rich 804 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 3: people problems in terms of college football fandom. But it 805 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 3: is tricky when you're positive that your team is somewhere 806 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 3: between really really good and great, and you have to 807 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 3: accept that your team is merely good right, that you're 808 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 3: you're rooting for a team that generally has its act together, 809 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,800 Speaker 3: but what you're used to and what's reasonable to expect 810 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 3: is more, and you have to say, I, I I 811 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 3: just I have to be okay that we're a B plus. 812 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 3: And I'm experiencing that emotion with Oregon and we'll get 813 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 3: to that later. And I'm sure on some level you're 814 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 3: experiencing that with Notre Dame. Notre Dame is a good team, 815 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 3: they're not really really good. They're not great, and that's 816 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 3: like it's just a weird place. And again, I'm sure 817 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,879 Speaker 3: one hundred and fifteen fan bases are like, enough enough, 818 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,919 Speaker 3: we have a quarterback who's throwing it the wrong way. 819 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:39,759 Speaker 3: But I'm just saying this is like, this is like 820 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 3: Minnesota fans are like, no, seriously, go on, no, how 821 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 3: hard it is to root for a team who's only 822 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,839 Speaker 3: good after they lost a thirty one point favorite game, 823 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 3: favorite game against Bowling Green but it is. That's just 824 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,839 Speaker 3: the reality for a team like Oklahoma right now. That's 825 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 3: all I'm saying, all right. 826 00:42:55,320 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 1: Elsewhere in the Big twelve, the iron skillet goes to 827 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: SMU smooth with a fun win. 828 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 5: Here. 829 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,800 Speaker 1: It was the one hundredth meeting between these two teams. 830 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 1: Seventy six points over one thousand total yards. SMU is good, man, 831 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,240 Speaker 1: They're good. I think, yeah, I do, I do. Tanner 832 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 1: Mordecai had four more touchdowns. He leads the nation now 833 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 1: as twenty one of them on the year. Ulyss Is 834 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 1: Bentley the fourth my favorite name in college football at 835 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,320 Speaker 1: buck fifty three in a touchdown. And TCU's defense just 836 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 1: like wasn't good. They allowed SMU to go eight of 837 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: twelve on third downs. I know you want to talk 838 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,319 Speaker 1: a little bit about Max Duggan and how you don't 839 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 1: think he's good. We can get there, but I just 840 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 1: wanted to use this platform to say that SMU deserves 841 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 1: to be ranked. They have looked really, really good. 842 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,839 Speaker 3: It's not that I don't think Max Duggan is good, 843 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 3: because at times he is good. But TCU and Max 844 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,280 Speaker 3: Duggan as a three or four year starter at quarterback, 845 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,839 Speaker 3: it's just like, you know what you're going to get, right, 846 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 3: you know exactly what a max dug in and this offense, 847 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 3: and like Zach Evans is a spark at running back 848 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 3: who they sort of went away from at times. It 849 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 3: was a much better first half than second half. The 850 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 3: striking thing about TCU, especially considering who they've developed to 851 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 3: become NFL players, is that they're beaten at the line 852 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 3: of scrimmage so consistently by SMU, by everyone, not everyone, 853 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,360 Speaker 3: but a lot of teams, that that's where they had 854 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:34,320 Speaker 3: really developed guys, and that's where they can't sustain drives. 855 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 3: And I thought, you know SMU and what it was 856 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 3: Mordecai through, did you throw two. 857 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 1: Picks, three picks a three in this game? 858 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, to not come away with a win. So the 859 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,399 Speaker 3: final tally was, you know, TCU wins that I'm looking 860 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 3: right now three turnovers to one. So if you're losing 861 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 3: that game for giving up forty two points with three takeaways, 862 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,840 Speaker 3: something is both very right and wrong with your defense. 863 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 3: It just it's an all over situation. And like I 864 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 3: get again credit to SMU, but it was just sort 865 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,360 Speaker 3: of taking advantage of fits and starts from TCU on 866 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,800 Speaker 3: both sides of the ball, so great for the skillet, 867 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 3: great for Ulyssa's Bentley running all over it was Bentley 868 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 3: and somebody else ran really well for SMU. I saw 869 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,840 Speaker 3: that in the sort of extended highlights I watched. But 870 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 3: TCU is not in a great place right now now, 871 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 3: Like this is a program that needs I'm not going 872 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 3: to say that they need to go in a new 873 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,360 Speaker 3: direction at head coach or like it's just something new absolutely, 874 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,400 Speaker 3: just like something like they need to hit the reboot 875 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:34,280 Speaker 3: button somewhere. 876 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 1: There is a Wisconsin quality to TCU in that it 877 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,400 Speaker 1: feels like the same team every year. M hm. The 878 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 1: names change, some of the speculation about who will be 879 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 1: good versus who won't be good changes, but it's the 880 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,760 Speaker 1: same team. You'reine and you're out, and that's really frustrating 881 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 1: as a fan, really frustrating with that. 882 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 3: That said, the best of TCU moving forward. Okay, so 883 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 3: they Texas, that's gonna be tough at Texas Tech at Oklahoma, 884 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 3: West Virginia at Kansas State with god knows who at 885 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,839 Speaker 3: quarterback Baylor at Oklahoma's like, there's nobody who are like, well, 886 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 3: they're not good enough to win that game. I know 887 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 3: they're good enough to win eighty ninety percent of those games, 888 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 3: right all but maybe Texas and who even knows. I 889 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,320 Speaker 3: think Texas a little overrated at the moment, but TCU 890 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 3: is good enough. The problem is that's kind of meaningless. 891 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,360 Speaker 1: Texas won seventy to thirty five over Texas Tech, and 892 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 1: we had Oklahoma State winning thirty one to twenty over 893 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 1: k State. Let's just go through them real quickly. The 894 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 1: Texas game escalated very quickly. Definitely did not expect this 895 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 1: type of domination by the Texas offensive line. They looked 896 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 1: really good up front and just push Tech off the ball. 897 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 1: You do that at Springs by Jean Robinson lose. It 898 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,880 Speaker 1: obviously gives a lot more clearance for a guy like 899 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 1: a Casey Thompson. Even Roshawn Johnson got in on the action. 900 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,879 Speaker 1: Seventy points is is definitely the kind of neck crack 901 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 1: that I think Texas fans were after. Totally. 902 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really encouraging from the the Texas offense, 903 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 3: especially after the lows that they they plummeted to against 904 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 3: Arkansas with Hudson card they make the change to Casey Thompson. 905 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,879 Speaker 3: He looks much more comfortable. He's throwing the ball on time. 906 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 3: You know, Xavier Worthy looks like he's going to be extremely. 907 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to college. 908 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, he had committed to Michigan and then left during spring. 909 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 3: I don't know if it was an academic thing. I 910 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 3: know Giles Jackson, who was at Michigan, was part of 911 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,319 Speaker 3: his recruitment because he's from California. I don't know if 912 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,360 Speaker 3: that played an issue with it when he transferred to Washington. 913 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 3: But either way, ends up at Texas a team that 914 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 3: desperate for a game change or at receiver, and as 915 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 3: you mentioned, the line was great. Casey Thompson, be Jon 916 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 3: Robinson is you know, probably due to be retired as 917 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 3: a dude, he's just every week. 918 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 919 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,839 Speaker 3: The worrisome thing to me with Texas is what they 920 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 3: look like in the back end of their defense. I 921 00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 3: don't know which quarterbacks are good enough and consistently enough 922 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 3: to take advantage. 923 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:06,439 Speaker 1: Well, Henry Coin by Henry Kin, and he was able 924 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,840 Speaker 1: to take the top off the Texas defense a bit. So, 925 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 1: you know, we talk a lot about the schematics of 926 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 1: defending Oklahoma. They're going to play in two weeks. Oklahoma 927 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 1: is capable of taking the top off the defense, whether 928 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,279 Speaker 1: or not we know who their go to guys are 929 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 1: out wide or not. Well. Again, this is how Nebraska, 930 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 1: this is how West Virginia has stopped Oklahoma. They have 931 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 1: not let them do that. Texas definitely has a tendency 932 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,440 Speaker 1: for letting people do that. They knew Texas Tech was 933 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 1: going to try and do that, and it still happened. 934 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,840 Speaker 1: So we'll see how that defense fares against Oklahoma in 935 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,920 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. But seventy point showing here on 936 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:47,440 Speaker 1: offenses is really solid. I talked a lot about how 937 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm not picking Oklahoma State until they get back and 938 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,840 Speaker 1: get healthy. They had Tay Martin back out wide and 939 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,320 Speaker 1: it made a huge impact. Spencer Sanders looked better, Jalen 940 00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:01,240 Speaker 1: Warren continue to do well on the ground. The defense 941 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 1: continued to play well. Held down K State in a 942 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 1: really positive way. Duce Vaughan held like twenty two yards. 943 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,400 Speaker 1: K State's got like eight quarterbacks. Now I don't know 944 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:11,520 Speaker 1: who's starting at this point. 945 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, Will Howard wasn't the answer, got hurt, kept popping 946 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 3: in and out. They brought in the third string that 947 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 3: Dusvan couldn't get anything going. A lot of drops for 948 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 3: K State long not. 949 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,880 Speaker 1: Like real ugly. Yeah, yeah, lot needs to be cleaned up, 950 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,320 Speaker 1: but yeah, you're right. Good for Oklahoma State over in 951 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,840 Speaker 1: Big Ten territory, Dan Michigan State wins twenty three to 952 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 1: twenty over Nebraska in overtime. We had Michigan winning by 953 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,960 Speaker 1: seven over Rutgers twenty to thirteen in a game that 954 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 1: was way closer than it should have been. We had 955 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 1: Iowa who struggled for a good chunk of this game 956 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 1: against Colorado State of all teams. We had Penn State 957 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 1: beating up on Villanova but not dominating the way they 958 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 1: should have. We had Ohio State with a freshman quarterback 959 00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 1: in Kyle McCord as they let C. J. Stroud quote 960 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,880 Speaker 1: rest his shoulder, which is weird phrasing. 961 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:04,680 Speaker 2: Yep. 962 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 1: Maryland wins, Indiana wins barely on the road at Western Kentucky. 963 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 1: Northwestern wins Purdue and a terrible, unwatchable game beats Illinois 964 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,319 Speaker 1: thirteen to nine. And then there was the Bowling Green 965 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 1: Minnesota thing where Minnesota was favored by about thirty one 966 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 1: points and they lost fourteen to ten with just a 967 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 1: ton of mistakes and getting stuffed on fourth downs and 968 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,719 Speaker 1: fumbles and penalties and tan or Morgan through for like 969 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,399 Speaker 1: fifty nine yards. So where do you want to start? 970 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,719 Speaker 1: What jumped out at you in Big Ten play? 971 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,959 Speaker 3: Not terribly worried about Iowa. That was a shanked punt 972 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,759 Speaker 3: and an interception for two short fields that Colorado State 973 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,480 Speaker 3: took over with and then did literally nothing else on offense. 974 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,560 Speaker 3: Penn State was good, right, Penn State was. 975 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 1: They were good, They were fine. They did not look fine. 976 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:52,960 Speaker 1: They did not look as dominant as they should have. 977 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,880 Speaker 1: The one thing that I am really focused on right 978 00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 1: now is how Sean Clifford looks, because to me, it 979 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 1: feels like it's a new cliff feels like it's a 980 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 1: new cliff This year with Mike Garsid, she threw for 981 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,799 Speaker 1: four hundred yards and four touchdowns. It's just he's kind 982 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,240 Speaker 1: of got a different vibe to him, and he's definitely 983 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,400 Speaker 1: he always talks about how he's so confident. He's actually 984 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,880 Speaker 1: starting to play confident now, which I think is worrisome 985 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,719 Speaker 1: for other teams in the Big Ten. He looks good. 986 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a little bit worried about that rushing attackler 987 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 3: on the offensive line in terms of run blocking, and 988 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,239 Speaker 3: we saw a little bit of that against Auburn. And 989 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 3: they've got an amazing duel out wide in Johan Dotson 990 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 3: and Parker Washington. I worry about again, some of the 991 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,239 Speaker 3: better defenses they're going to face on this schedule, that 992 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,759 Speaker 3: if you can't control clock a little bit, if you 993 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,839 Speaker 3: can't move the chains on the ground a little bit, 994 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,719 Speaker 3: it could get dicey and lose a winnable game. 995 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,840 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be John Lovett, the transfer 996 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:45,880 Speaker 1: up from Baylor. I think he's going to be the 997 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 1: primary by the time we get to the end of 998 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:51,479 Speaker 1: the season. I don't understand how they use running backs. 999 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,320 Speaker 1: I'm waiting for the number one guy to emerge, but 1000 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 1: they've got four running backs who could play. Noah Kne's 1001 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 1: been the name, but no, he doesn't have burst. I 1002 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,320 Speaker 1: know you like him, he doesn't have burst. 1003 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:05,920 Speaker 3: I don't care about burst as much as turning three 1004 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,839 Speaker 3: into eight. That's all I care about. From the running 1005 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,560 Speaker 3: back at a certain point, if you can't run the ball, 1006 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,400 Speaker 3: who's the guy that can take it from two yards 1007 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:11,879 Speaker 3: to six? 1008 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? I think love It might be the guy. But 1009 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,480 Speaker 1: he's kind of gotten off to a slow start here 1010 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,800 Speaker 1: and didn't play early on. So we'll see more on 1011 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:23,920 Speaker 1: that front. The degree of difficulty of Michigan State exclusively, 1012 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 1: exclusively going three and out in the second half and 1013 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 1: winning a game against at least a decent Nebraska team. Yeah, 1014 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 1: there's nothing special about Nebraska big picture. Overall, this is 1015 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 1: a good defense with a playmaker at quarterback. The degree 1016 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,440 Speaker 1: of difficulty with Michigan State fully collapsing on offense in 1017 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:50,440 Speaker 1: the second half and winning this game is astounding. I 1018 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 1: don't know how to better describe it. 1019 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,879 Speaker 3: It is the clunkiest clunker to be one from week 1020 00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,880 Speaker 3: four as far as I'm concerned, and they did it. 1021 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:04,720 Speaker 3: They somehow pulled it out. And Nebraska, I mean injuries 1022 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 3: at receiver, like just issues along the offensive line. Adrian 1023 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,400 Speaker 3: Martinez made plays, but obviously mistakes a big one. I 1024 00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,359 Speaker 3: I can't believe Michigan State was able to pull out 1025 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 3: that win. It's unreal. I don't know if you have 1026 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 3: anything to add. Minnesota is broken. Minnesota is broke. 1027 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,440 Speaker 1: I thought I thought Nebraska had them. Yeah, they had him. 1028 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 1: Their defense is good and Michigan State was held to 1029 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,880 Speaker 1: one of ten on third downs through the course of 1030 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,800 Speaker 1: this game. As you said, SPARTI had five possessions in 1031 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 1: the second half and all were three and outs. By 1032 00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:39,920 Speaker 1: my math, they gained fourteen yards after halftime. So if 1033 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,360 Speaker 1: not for a big special teams play from Jalen Reed, 1034 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if they win this game. I don't 1035 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,920 Speaker 1: know if they win this game. I will say there 1036 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 1: were two opportunities for a front door cover in overtime, 1037 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,120 Speaker 1: because by the time this game kicked off, it was 1038 00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,560 Speaker 1: Michigan State minus four and a half. So this is 1039 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 1: one of my locks, right. The first was on an 1040 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 1: interception in overtime, So Adrian Martinez throws to his right, 1041 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,680 Speaker 1: balls picked off, guy goes scooting down the field, makes 1042 00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,000 Speaker 1: it all the way down to the other side. It 1043 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,200 Speaker 1: looks like he's gonna get in. An offensive lineman just 1044 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,239 Speaker 1: lays out and kind of knocks his leg out from 1045 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:23,399 Speaker 1: behind him and he goes down. Then in overtime, maybe 1046 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,120 Speaker 1: the first or second play in ot Kenny Walker Kenny dubs. 1047 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,560 Speaker 1: My boy goes scampering down for like a twenty three 1048 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:34,919 Speaker 1: yard run, just goes down one yard shy the goal line. 1049 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,480 Speaker 1: They tried a couple times to punch it in, but no, 1050 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,360 Speaker 1: boyno on that front. They end up kicking it to 1051 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 1: win twenty three to twenty In overtime. But look, Michigan 1052 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:46,880 Speaker 1: State's four and oh you know was a clunker. It 1053 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 1: was definite clunker field to it. But four and oh 1054 00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:57,600 Speaker 1: they are at least good enough to challenge pretty much 1055 00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,919 Speaker 1: anybody else in the Big ten East at this point, 1056 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,480 Speaker 1: maybe all the Big ten West, certainly most of the 1057 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 1: Big ten East, because they again they've seen the play 1058 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,800 Speaker 1: pretty good defense, They're not doing too much offensively. Do 1059 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,120 Speaker 1: you think they can challenge everybody in the Big ten East? 1060 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:19,080 Speaker 1: Contributing one literally one first down was too many in 1061 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,120 Speaker 1: the second half, and they're hanging with I mean, I 1062 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:23,120 Speaker 1: understand the Michigan thing. 1063 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,759 Speaker 3: I think Michigan's overrated at the moment, but Ohio State 1064 00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:29,879 Speaker 3: and Penn State seem like they could score twenty four 1065 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,319 Speaker 3: to twenty eight points against a Michigan State team who 1066 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,360 Speaker 3: may struggle to do so against those squads. 1067 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. In a weird year where it feels 1068 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,520 Speaker 1: like good enough is gonna have to be good enough. 1069 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:45,560 Speaker 1: It was a letdown moment for sure. I'm not as 1070 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:48,799 Speaker 1: down on Michigan State as you are. 1071 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,359 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not down with them. I think they're pretty good. 1072 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,120 Speaker 3: I'm just that kind of performance worries me. It worries me, 1073 00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,440 Speaker 3: Marci playground team of the Big ten. Your Maryland Terrapins 1074 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 3: just hanging round four and oh, schedule gets very real 1075 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,960 Speaker 3: moving forward their next seven they have I Friday. Five 1076 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,279 Speaker 3: of their next seven are against ranked teams, so it 1077 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,279 Speaker 3: gets trickier. But they're in position to be a bowl team, 1078 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:14,200 Speaker 3: which is wonderful. 1079 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,040 Speaker 1: Maryland beat Kent State thirty seven to two. Sixteen. Let's 1080 00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:22,040 Speaker 1: talk about Michigan. Michigan beats Rutgers twenty to thirteen. A 1081 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 1: lot's been made of the start that the Wolverines have 1082 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,440 Speaker 1: gotten off to, not necessarily against great teams, but not 1083 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:31,640 Speaker 1: cream puffs either. The ground game's been dynamic. I don't 1084 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,040 Speaker 1: know how else you put it. I locked up Michigan here. 1085 00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:35,759 Speaker 1: I thought they were gonna run all over Rutgers, but 1086 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,759 Speaker 1: clearly that was not the case because Rutgers. Rutgers came 1087 00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:43,960 Speaker 1: to play man. They They went to overtime with Michigan 1088 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,480 Speaker 1: a year ago. Rutgers contained that rushing attack. They allowed 1089 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,759 Speaker 1: one hundred and nine yards on the ground between Blake 1090 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,919 Speaker 1: Korum and Sawn Haskins, shut out Michigan in the second half, 1091 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,760 Speaker 1: gave themselves an opportunity to tie it up. They couldn't 1092 00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 1: deliver on that, but definitely asking some new questions of 1093 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,919 Speaker 1: Michigan that the previous three opponents had. 1094 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:09,880 Speaker 3: Not h Yeah, one of those questions is will Michigan 1095 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,000 Speaker 3: continue to run it straight at us when we put 1096 00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,799 Speaker 3: eight guys in the box. The answer was an emphatic yes. 1097 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:20,280 Speaker 3: The answer for Michigan was like, but we could we 1098 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,320 Speaker 3: could keep running it straight at Rutgers as they increased 1099 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,760 Speaker 3: the number of humans trying to stop the run near 1100 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,000 Speaker 3: the lap scrimmage. Michigan's offense, I mean, I talked about 1101 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,160 Speaker 3: being down on it even though they were running all 1102 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 3: over eventually Washington and they ran all over Western Michigan, Like, 1103 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:39,120 Speaker 3: this is not an especially interesting offense in terms of 1104 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:43,240 Speaker 3: giving itself options if something's not working like the RPO game, 1105 00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,960 Speaker 3: the screen game, you know, the play action game. Like, 1106 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,920 Speaker 3: there's not a lot there from Michigan. And when they 1107 00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,480 Speaker 3: were forced to do something new in the second half, 1108 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,520 Speaker 3: they didn't. They scored zero points and hang on and 1109 00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,919 Speaker 3: hung on against Rutgers. Was it a look ahead spot 1110 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,360 Speaker 3: against Wisconsin? I suppose, But zero points in the second 1111 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,920 Speaker 3: half against the team bearing down on you that seems worrisome. 1112 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:06,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1113 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:11,160 Speaker 3: I'm kind of down on Michigan in terms of winning 1114 00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:13,480 Speaker 3: something significant this year. 1115 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,920 Speaker 1: Michigan on the road at Wisconsin next week, which will 1116 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,680 Speaker 1: be an interesting matchup before we move on real quick 1117 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,920 Speaker 1: on the Ohio State front, they roll over Akron, but 1118 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:27,560 Speaker 1: Kyle McCord got his first start thirteen of eighteen three nineteen, 1119 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,800 Speaker 1: two touchdowns, one pick. The more notable moment in this 1120 00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,800 Speaker 1: game was I believe Cavon Pope quitting during the game. 1121 00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:35,720 Speaker 1: Weird situation. 1122 00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're run out onto the field, told to come back, 1123 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,400 Speaker 3: got into an argument with I think it was Al Washington, 1124 00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,280 Speaker 3: the assistant coach, one of the assistants for Ohio State's defense, 1125 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,280 Speaker 3: and threw his gloves a jersey into the crowd, escorted 1126 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,560 Speaker 3: into the locker room, tweeted out f Ohio State. Yeah, 1127 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,800 Speaker 3: it was not a great scene behind the scenes for 1128 00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,680 Speaker 3: the Ohio State defense, well just specifically Pope. So yeah, 1129 00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:00,840 Speaker 3: good for a comic Cord coming throw against it. An 1130 00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:05,040 Speaker 3: extremely down Acron team, and I think still think Ohio 1131 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:06,680 Speaker 3: State's in a pretty good place because you look at 1132 00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,320 Speaker 3: the offenses that they're gonna face. I'm not sure who's 1133 00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,880 Speaker 3: taking advantage of the Kerry Coombs defense. But probably someone 1134 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:12,439 Speaker 3: will all. 1135 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,640 Speaker 1: Right over In the SEC, we had Alabama wins sixty 1136 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,680 Speaker 1: three to fourteen over Southern miss We had Georgia role 1137 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,840 Speaker 1: my god, they killed Vandy sixty two to nil. Scored 1138 00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,880 Speaker 1: thirty five points in the first quarter in that game. 1139 00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 1: Elsewhere though in the SEC, you know, kind of a 1140 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:34,560 Speaker 1: missmash of different feelings and emotions. LSU wins twenty eight 1141 00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:38,479 Speaker 1: to twenty five over Mississippi State. Auburn wins by ten 1142 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,480 Speaker 1: in a game where they struggled thirty four to twenty 1143 00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:48,400 Speaker 1: four over Georgia State, Kentucky sixteen to ten over South Carolina, 1144 00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:53,360 Speaker 1: and Florida thirty eight to fourteen over Tennessee. They did 1145 00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,680 Speaker 1: trail early in the second quarter, the Gators did, but 1146 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,520 Speaker 1: then they clamped down and pretty much shut out Tennessee 1147 00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,240 Speaker 1: for the last forty one minutes of the game. Emery 1148 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Jones looked good. It seems like Flarda really got its 1149 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,400 Speaker 1: act together in the second half. What stood out to 1150 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:07,440 Speaker 1: you in the SEC. 1151 01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:14,360 Speaker 3: Bo Nick's getting benched against Georgia states Man, is I 1152 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,360 Speaker 3: have never really been a big Auburn offense under bow 1153 01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,120 Speaker 3: Knicks Guy and you know, some of the bigger wins 1154 01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,800 Speaker 3: I felt like they won. I mean, he made plays 1155 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:25,920 Speaker 3: in some of those games, but it really came to roost. 1156 01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,160 Speaker 3: I mean, this is not a guy Brian Harson who 1157 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,800 Speaker 3: recruited Bo Nicks. I thought the offense between the line 1158 01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:34,040 Speaker 3: between Nicks, between the lack of receivers, like it is 1159 01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,760 Speaker 3: such a work in progress. It has been torn down 1160 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,440 Speaker 3: to the studs, and so I guess you might as 1161 01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,800 Speaker 3: well look to TJ. Finley for a spark. He wasn't amazing, 1162 01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,160 Speaker 3: but I guess they played with a little more life 1163 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:44,080 Speaker 3: under TJ. 1164 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,560 Speaker 1: Finley. That was something. You know, George is a war 1165 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:52,960 Speaker 1: machine right now. Alabama looked terrific. Kentucky leaned on Chris Rodriguez, 1166 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,040 Speaker 1: though he has his own issues. Will Levis is back, 1167 01:00:56,160 --> 01:01:00,520 Speaker 1: baby to being He's back Penn State. 1168 01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:04,720 Speaker 3: Will Levis, that state, Will Levis back. Yeah, he's so nice. 1169 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,840 Speaker 3: Win against South Carolina. I guess anytime you can win 1170 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:10,800 Speaker 3: on the road, sure within the division, but yeah, Kentucky's 1171 01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:12,880 Speaker 3: going to be defense and hopefully protecting the ball a 1172 01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:17,160 Speaker 3: little bit better for their wins this year Florida Tennessee. 1173 01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 3: I would just I came away very impressed with Florida 1174 01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:22,440 Speaker 3: in the ability for Dan Mullen to shape shift this offense. 1175 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,040 Speaker 3: You know, last year it's so much through the air, 1176 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,320 Speaker 3: considering Kyle Pitts, considering those receivers, And I thought Emory 1177 01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,400 Speaker 3: Jones from just a dual threat ability standpoint, I mean, 1178 01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:34,640 Speaker 3: the rushing attack was again in full gear with all 1179 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,600 Speaker 3: those backs, and I thought he looked sharp throwing the ball, 1180 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,640 Speaker 3: and they weathered. It was a long touchdown from a 1181 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,160 Speaker 3: screen and a long touchdown pass from Tennessee and Hendon Hooker. 1182 01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,560 Speaker 3: But then he's beat up and they look rattled against 1183 01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,840 Speaker 3: the crowd in the swamp. So really nice win for 1184 01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 3: Florida to separate themselves from arrival. And it seems like 1185 01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,320 Speaker 3: Emory Jones is getting more comfortable too totally, which you 1186 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,080 Speaker 3: have to feel good about. Anthony Richardson did not play. 1187 01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,439 Speaker 3: He was still nursing the hamstring. It sounds like he's 1188 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:03,200 Speaker 3: going to be fully cleared for practice as of tomorrow 1189 01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:10,200 Speaker 3: and he'll resume whatever I think as well their cornerback, right, Yeah, 1190 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,040 Speaker 3: that will be helpful to get both those guys back in. 1191 01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,919 Speaker 1: Whatever capacity they opt to use. Richardson, There's no doubt 1192 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,120 Speaker 1: he is He's a weapon that they can use. We 1193 01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:23,760 Speaker 1: didn't mention Lsussissippi State all that much, but LSU led 1194 01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,160 Speaker 1: twenty one to three in the third quarter and then 1195 01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,600 Speaker 1: twenty eight to ten early in the fourth. Mississippi State 1196 01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:34,439 Speaker 1: made a late charge behind two touchdown passes from Will 1197 01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,280 Speaker 1: Rogers and then a two point conversion to get this 1198 01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,440 Speaker 1: one to twenty eight to twenty five. They went for 1199 01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:43,360 Speaker 1: the on site kick, didn't get it. Four touchdowns and 1200 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:48,720 Speaker 1: a pick for Max Johnson. I clocked the speed of 1201 01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,480 Speaker 1: that interception. He threw it at maybe eighteen and a 1202 01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:55,000 Speaker 1: half miles per hour. Yeah, that was the slowest ball 1203 01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:59,120 Speaker 1: I've seen since Bryant Monies played at Hawaii. There is 1204 01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,760 Speaker 1: a bit of a junk ball or quality to Max 1205 01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,760 Speaker 1: Johnson's throwing, and he makes it work for him largely, 1206 01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,400 Speaker 1: it makes it works for himself. Large off speed stuff 1207 01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,760 Speaker 1: Dan a lot of circle change coming in. 1208 01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:16,160 Speaker 3: LSU has offensive line issues, they have issues running the ball. Defensively, 1209 01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,400 Speaker 3: they're in a pretty good place, but gave up some 1210 01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:22,200 Speaker 3: some decent chunky plays. But Mississippi State just I mean 1211 01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:24,480 Speaker 3: making the mistakes at the end of drives that they did, 1212 01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,080 Speaker 3: just unable to finish. They are a team that is 1213 01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,160 Speaker 3: very much a work in progress offensively. 1214 01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:33,840 Speaker 1: All right, let's scoot over to the ACC. Dan, let's 1215 01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,400 Speaker 1: what is going on in the ACC. My god, I 1216 01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,320 Speaker 1: don't know, but I love it. ACC. Okay, here we go. 1217 01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:45,400 Speaker 1: Georgia Tech forty five, North Carolina twenty two, Wake Forest 1218 01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,960 Speaker 1: thirty seven to seventeen over Virginia. Don't look now, Wake 1219 01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,840 Speaker 1: Forest undefeated. What do we called? Aren't we are wake watchers? 1220 01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,080 Speaker 1: We are wake watchers? Eight? No, Wake is that that's 1221 01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:56,640 Speaker 1: the number? Eight? 1222 01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:56,840 Speaker 2: No? 1223 01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:02,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? Boston College forty one, MISSOO thirty four. In overtime, 1224 01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:06,320 Speaker 1: Louisville knocks off Florida State. Florida State now zho to four. 1225 01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,920 Speaker 1: We had Syracuse over Liberty with a nice win for 1226 01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:14,280 Speaker 1: Dino Babers twenty four to twenty one, Pit by seventy 1227 01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:18,000 Speaker 1: over New Hampshire, Virginia Tech by eleven over Richmond, and 1228 01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:24,200 Speaker 1: Miami by sixty nine, nice over Central Connecticut. Romelo Brinson 1229 01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:25,440 Speaker 1: by the way of Miami. I don't know if you 1230 01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,040 Speaker 1: saw his catch, didn't That might be the catch of 1231 01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:29,920 Speaker 1: the year at college football. One of those deals where 1232 01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,800 Speaker 1: he was running and it was thrown back shoulder by 1233 01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,520 Speaker 1: Jake Garcia. Who got the start or who played? I 1234 01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,040 Speaker 1: should say, yeah, Van Dyke got the start. I played 1235 01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:40,680 Speaker 1: for Miami and just kind of reached back behind it 1236 01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,040 Speaker 1: and caught it one hand that it was incredible catch 1237 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:44,640 Speaker 1: if you haven't had a chance to see the highlights. 1238 01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:50,000 Speaker 1: And finally, Duke fifty two Kansas thirty three, Dan Graham 1239 01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:55,960 Speaker 1: Holberg Holmburg three twenty eight one touchdown, one interception, eighty 1240 01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,160 Speaker 1: eight yards in the ground, had four touchdowns for the 1241 01:04:58,240 --> 01:04:59,320 Speaker 1: Duke Blue Devils. 1242 01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:03,200 Speaker 3: With BC winning with a backup quarterback winning on the ground. 1243 01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,320 Speaker 3: They completely suffocated Miszoo in the third quarter, but then 1244 01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:09,160 Speaker 3: a nice comeback from Miszoo, but again a nice win 1245 01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:13,160 Speaker 3: for Boston College. Who BC hasn't lost, right, Nope, Nope, 1246 01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,600 Speaker 3: four and oh despite losing the jerky boy philed Jerkovic, 1247 01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:19,560 Speaker 3: Georgia Tech over North Carolina. 1248 01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,080 Speaker 1: Oh man, we need to say, Jeff Sims get to 1249 01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:22,800 Speaker 1: talk about this. 1250 01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,520 Speaker 3: Benched, Jordan Yates struggles early, Jeff Sims is back with 1251 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:31,960 Speaker 3: his legs, with his arm, and North Carolina swallowed up 1252 01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,280 Speaker 3: by Georgia Tech's defense. Sam Howell with the fumbles in 1253 01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:38,360 Speaker 3: the sacks and no running game. The offensive line is 1254 01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:43,680 Speaker 3: a mess and Georgia Tech like losing to Northern Illinois 1255 01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:48,439 Speaker 3: then nearly beating Clemson and beating North Carolina is such 1256 01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:51,800 Speaker 3: a like a great rocky road the reck. 1257 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:55,120 Speaker 1: I love it. What what a performance by the defensive line, 1258 01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:59,000 Speaker 1: Andy l Yeah, partially that is because of UNC and 1259 01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:03,360 Speaker 1: some of their issues up front. Okay, but thirteen tackles 1260 01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:08,760 Speaker 1: for loss, eight sacks of Sam Howe, the two fumbles 1261 01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,520 Speaker 1: which you mentioned before, that was clearly the story that 1262 01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:15,320 Speaker 1: set the tone for this football games. And Jeff Simms Man, 1263 01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:17,400 Speaker 1: I'll call it out again. He had been on the 1264 01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,360 Speaker 1: shelf for a couple of weeks, got hurt in Week one, 1265 01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:24,320 Speaker 1: but when he stepped in late in the first half, 1266 01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,920 Speaker 1: it just went on a tear like ten of thirteen 1267 01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,760 Speaker 1: one to twelve passing a touchdown through the air, one 1268 01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:34,280 Speaker 1: twenty eight and three touchdowns on the ground. Remember this 1269 01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,800 Speaker 1: is the guy. This is a guy that they tried 1270 01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:38,720 Speaker 1: to go with initially before he got hurt, and so 1271 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:40,960 Speaker 1: to come in now and play the way that he 1272 01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,320 Speaker 1: did a big spot against North Carolina is a pretty 1273 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:47,080 Speaker 1: big deal for them. So good on Georgia Tech forgetting 1274 01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:48,880 Speaker 1: this win and for Jeff Collins for getting off the 1275 01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:53,160 Speaker 1: schneide because he had not beaten a ranked team since 1276 01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:56,760 Speaker 1: taking the job. North Carolina, by the way, is two 1277 01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,400 Speaker 1: and two, and they only have like two gimmes left 1278 01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:03,960 Speaker 1: in my They played Duke, they played Wafford, But outside 1279 01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:07,360 Speaker 1: of those two teams, man, I I don't know, it's 1280 01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:09,600 Speaker 1: not I'm not feeling great about where this team is 1281 01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,080 Speaker 1: going in twenty twenty one. You ever go to a 1282 01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:15,840 Speaker 1: water park, tie d I mean I have? Have you 1283 01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:17,800 Speaker 1: ever been to a water park? You know that every water. 1284 01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:21,840 Speaker 3: Park has that huge, huge drop slide where it seems 1285 01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,080 Speaker 3: fun and maybe I'm just speaking for myself here, then 1286 01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:25,200 Speaker 3: you get to the top and you're like, well this 1287 01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,400 Speaker 3: is a lot scarier and higher than I thought it 1288 01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:31,440 Speaker 3: was gonna be. I think that's what North Carolina's quarterback 1289 01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,360 Speaker 3: of the future, Drake may might be thinking right now 1290 01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,360 Speaker 3: looking at the offensive line play where like I. 1291 01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,520 Speaker 1: Didn't, I didn't anticipate this. 1292 01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,720 Speaker 3: When I committed to North Carolina. I know he's North 1293 01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,080 Speaker 3: Carolina legacy, but like, you have to be looking at 1294 01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,600 Speaker 3: the results here that if you're an excellent quarterback like 1295 01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:48,600 Speaker 3: Sam Howell usually is, and he's struggling to get this 1296 01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:52,760 Speaker 3: offense going because of the struggles up front. That's it's 1297 01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:56,480 Speaker 3: a long term, worrying prospect for North Carolina because those things, 1298 01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:58,680 Speaker 3: those types of things don't get solved overnight. 1299 01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,000 Speaker 1: And you can't even transfer over to Clemson anymore. That 1300 01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:03,959 Speaker 1: line is semi permeable. I don't know where you're going 1301 01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,840 Speaker 1: if you are a promising acc quarterback right now, Like, 1302 01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:09,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what the answer is, 1303 01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,280 Speaker 1: Like who has the most promising future offensive line? That 1304 01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:17,439 Speaker 1: just is a quarterback away? Wake wins by twenty over Virginia. 1305 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:21,680 Speaker 1: This was an earlier game this week. Virginia's defense very 1306 01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:25,680 Speaker 1: secretly kind of a disaster, no secret tie. Yeah, six 1307 01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:29,240 Speaker 1: ninety nine total yards allowed last week against North Carolina. 1308 01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:34,320 Speaker 1: The aforementioned tar heels four seventy three allowed this week, 1309 01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:41,679 Speaker 1: but brenand Armstrong still, Yeah, he's getting the Nick Foles Award. 1310 01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:44,679 Speaker 1: He had four oh seven, two touchdowns on a pick 1311 01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:49,760 Speaker 1: in a losing effort, and just real quick, Dan, I 1312 01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:51,960 Speaker 1: have to believe Mike Norvel is on the hot seat, 1313 01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,200 Speaker 1: I would think, so, I have to believe he's on 1314 01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:59,640 Speaker 1: the hot seat. FSU zero to four, only two of 1315 01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:03,000 Speaker 1: their many eight games or obvious wins with I think Syracuse. 1316 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,840 Speaker 1: I'll count Syracuse and U mass in a couple of weeks. 1317 01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:09,360 Speaker 1: At one point they trailed thirty one to seven in 1318 01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:13,400 Speaker 1: the second quarter. Malie Cunningham just carved him up. So 1319 01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,599 Speaker 1: we can talk about Louisville another day. How they're three 1320 01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:20,479 Speaker 1: and one. Maybe being overlooked. I don't know, but Florida 1321 01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,519 Speaker 1: State does not seem like it's in a really good place. 1322 01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:25,519 Speaker 1: Whenever you're down thirty one to seven that early in 1323 01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:27,559 Speaker 1: the game, I start worrying that the team is quit 1324 01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:30,840 Speaker 1: on the coach. And if they're quitting on Norvel, it's over. 1325 01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:33,920 Speaker 1: It's done. Just get it over with. Yeah, I don't know. 1326 01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:36,000 Speaker 3: I mean they run the hell out of the ball 1327 01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:39,519 Speaker 3: Chase Shawn Corbin like that element of their offense, just 1328 01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:41,880 Speaker 3: that their defense in their passing game. And I thought 1329 01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,839 Speaker 3: the was the Kansas receiver who came in, Andrew Parchman, 1330 01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,320 Speaker 3: I believe, yeah, yaha, yeah, I thought he was going 1331 01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:50,439 Speaker 3: to add a really nice, uh just factor to this offense. 1332 01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,519 Speaker 3: As I try to not say the word element too much, 1333 01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:58,200 Speaker 3: but yeah, there's something just just off that there's they're 1334 01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:00,479 Speaker 3: not only not turning a corner, but they're no near 1335 01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:04,040 Speaker 3: the corner on offense when you come out this flat, yeah, 1336 01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:07,000 Speaker 3: week in and week out. That's it's a preparation thing. 1337 01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:09,599 Speaker 3: It's a ready to play, it's a game planning, it's 1338 01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:13,719 Speaker 3: an anticipation thing that Florida State just doesn't seem to have. Also, 1339 01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:17,720 Speaker 3: not a secret that Virginia's defense is terrible. They're they're 1340 01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:20,679 Speaker 3: my matre d team of the twenty twenty one college 1341 01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:25,920 Speaker 3: football season right this way. Ah, yes see, I have 1342 01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:26,599 Speaker 3: a soundboard too. 1343 01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:27,519 Speaker 1: That's good. That's good. 1344 01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:32,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's no secret. I want to mention Syracuse 1345 01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:34,959 Speaker 3: real quick, great defense, They ran the ball, they survived. 1346 01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,439 Speaker 3: Carrier Dome is a tough place to play. Really cool 1347 01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:39,320 Speaker 3: for Syracuse, who now moved to three and one with 1348 01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:41,560 Speaker 3: I mean, Malik Willis is going to be one of 1349 01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,320 Speaker 3: the absolute better quarterbacks they play, and so to get 1350 01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:47,920 Speaker 3: that win really nice for them. Otherwise, I don't think 1351 01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:48,840 Speaker 3: I have much to add. 1352 01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,160 Speaker 1: Well, and by the way, Willis played pretty well, he 1353 01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,639 Speaker 1: had a good game, but Syracuse just got it done 1354 01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:58,679 Speaker 1: mostly on the ground. Yeah, they finally went with Garrett 1355 01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:04,040 Speaker 1: Schrader or back exclusively. Wasn't great, throwing six to fifteen 1356 01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:06,599 Speaker 1: seventy seven yards, but again it was on the ground 1357 01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:09,280 Speaker 1: where they made their Hey, Sean Tucker had a nice day, 1358 01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:13,280 Speaker 1: won sixty nine a touchdown, and Garrett Trader sixteen attempts 1359 01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,080 Speaker 1: on the ground fifty three yards and two touchdowns to 1360 01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:20,200 Speaker 1: transfer up from Mississippi State. So good on Syracuse. This 1361 01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:22,640 Speaker 1: is a big win. One of those games that I 1362 01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:24,400 Speaker 1: think we talked about before the start of the year. 1363 01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:28,559 Speaker 1: As you know, Liberty could take him down. It's possible 1364 01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,599 Speaker 1: here and Syracuse gets a job done. So good, good 1365 01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,800 Speaker 1: on them all right. Finally, let's go the Pack twelve 1366 01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:41,640 Speaker 1: dan so per the Great College Football Reddit community. Underdogs 1367 01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:45,000 Speaker 1: in the PAC twelve at Night so called PAC twelve 1368 01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:49,040 Speaker 1: after Dark are sixteen and two against the point spread 1369 01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,680 Speaker 1: so far this year. It's pretty good. It'd make a 1370 01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:53,960 Speaker 1: lot of money. Good, a lot of money just going 1371 01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:57,880 Speaker 1: on dogs, which you have been trying to proclaim and 1372 01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:00,800 Speaker 1: scream from the top of your lungs all year. M hmm. 1373 01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:05,200 Speaker 1: It worked out for you last week for sure. Here's 1374 01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:09,439 Speaker 1: what happened in the PAC twelve Okay, UCLA thirty five, 1375 01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:13,720 Speaker 1: Stanford twenty four. We had Oregon winning forty one to 1376 01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:19,439 Speaker 1: nineteen over Arizona. Oregon State knocks off USC forty five 1377 01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:25,559 Speaker 1: to twenty seven. Utah comes from behind to knock off 1378 01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:30,040 Speaker 1: Washington State by a twenty four to thirteen score. Washington 1379 01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:33,559 Speaker 1: needs overtime to knock off CAL thirty one to twenty four, 1380 01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:38,160 Speaker 1: and Arizona State took it to Colorado by a thirty 1381 01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:44,360 Speaker 1: five to thirteen score. Yeah, Oregon led just twenty four 1382 01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:49,559 Speaker 1: to nineteen in the fourth quarter. Yeah, what the hell 1383 01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:51,599 Speaker 1: is that about? Arizona is not good? 1384 01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:54,439 Speaker 3: And not only is Arizona not good, they'd lost I 1385 01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,880 Speaker 3: think fourteen or fifteen in a row coming into this game. 1386 01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:02,000 Speaker 3: Oregon came out really impressively. They throw a long touchdown 1387 01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:05,840 Speaker 3: pass Anthony Brown to Jalen Red. They quickly turn they 1388 01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:09,800 Speaker 3: quickly pick off Jordan McLoud the USF transfer and turn 1389 01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:11,680 Speaker 3: that into three points. It was not a great red 1390 01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,800 Speaker 3: zone situation, but whatever, you turned it into points, that's fine. 1391 01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,640 Speaker 3: You turn turnover into points, it's always good. And then 1392 01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,240 Speaker 3: the offense just kind of disappeared. The defense couldn't get 1393 01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:23,400 Speaker 3: off the field. Organ's particularly thin at linebacker right now. 1394 01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:26,200 Speaker 3: There were penalties and bad spots. Noah Suwell had a 1395 01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:29,120 Speaker 3: roughing the passer penalty on third and long, which bailed 1396 01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:31,240 Speaker 3: out Arizona, which I didn't actually think it was a penalty, 1397 01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,360 Speaker 3: but whatever it was called, and so therefore it is. 1398 01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:37,960 Speaker 3: And just going downfield, Anthony Brown looked beat up. The 1399 01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:40,720 Speaker 3: offensive line struggled at times Forgon. Organ's another one of 1400 01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:42,280 Speaker 3: those teams I think is good. I think they're a 1401 01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,000 Speaker 3: good team. I just don't think they're a great team. 1402 01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:46,800 Speaker 3: They're number three or four right now as we're recording this. 1403 01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:48,679 Speaker 3: They are not a top five team in the country 1404 01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,720 Speaker 3: to me. They're thin on defense, and you know, they 1405 01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:53,439 Speaker 3: got turnovers in the second half. They had a pick 1406 01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:55,400 Speaker 3: six that made the score look a little bit different 1407 01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:58,559 Speaker 3: than what the tenor of the game was. And one 1408 01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:00,360 Speaker 3: of those drives I think was all on the ground 1409 01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:02,679 Speaker 3: for a touchdown, like two or three long running plays 1410 01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:06,360 Speaker 3: for Oregon. So yeah, to not separate yourself from a 1411 01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:09,160 Speaker 3: team that has struggled to the extent that Arizona has struggled, 1412 01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,519 Speaker 3: it's it's a little bit concerning. Oregon gets up for 1413 01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:15,040 Speaker 3: the big games, but they have this tendency under Mario 1414 01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:18,960 Speaker 3: Christobal to play down to those lesser, those clearly lesser opponents, 1415 01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:22,120 Speaker 3: and if Arizona gets some dudes in that program, I 1416 01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:24,560 Speaker 3: think They're well coached. Don Brown's running the defense. I 1417 01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,160 Speaker 3: think Jed fish Is will do a good job with 1418 01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,880 Speaker 3: that offense. They kept drives moving on you know, third 1419 01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:32,800 Speaker 3: and medium. They did good situational things. They just don't 1420 01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:36,120 Speaker 3: have the guys right now. Oregon escapes with a twenty 1421 01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:38,680 Speaker 3: two point win or whatever the math ends up with 1422 01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:39,320 Speaker 3: forty one. 1423 01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:41,160 Speaker 1: Twenty two. 1424 01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:41,519 Speaker 5: There you go. 1425 01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,200 Speaker 1: So would you be open to calling Oregon the Eugene 1426 01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:44,920 Speaker 1: mud Hens. 1427 01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:49,640 Speaker 3: I guess I don't know, because they play up to 1428 01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:52,519 Speaker 3: I mean, they they show up to their huge games, 1429 01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:54,559 Speaker 3: So I don't I don't know how we evaluate this team. 1430 01:14:54,720 --> 01:15:00,280 Speaker 3: But DTR beat up wills Ucla to a win after 1431 01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,599 Speaker 3: Stanford ties it up. I don't know what is hell 1432 01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:05,320 Speaker 3: status is at the moment. Zach Charbonnay ran wild. The 1433 01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:08,479 Speaker 3: defense came to play against Stanford. Stanford was without a 1434 01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,800 Speaker 3: ton of guys, but Ucla on the road on the 1435 01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:15,800 Speaker 3: farm a really impressive win. Oregon State is I don't know. 1436 01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:18,320 Speaker 3: Is Chance Nolan one of the best three quarterbacks in 1437 01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:21,080 Speaker 3: the conference. He had really impressive in this offense. 1438 01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:23,920 Speaker 1: He's really oppressive. We were joking around this morning that 1439 01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:27,479 Speaker 1: it's pretty much Drake Wondon versus the world at this 1440 01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,640 Speaker 1: point that maybe he is playing to try and be 1441 01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,280 Speaker 1: traded for future consideration. 1442 01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,200 Speaker 3: The USC needs to get some value for him because 1443 01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:38,599 Speaker 3: this team isn't going anywhere this year. Yeah, Oregon State's 1444 01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:40,479 Speaker 3: just I mean, Jonathan Smith has done a really nice 1445 01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:43,639 Speaker 3: job filling that roster up with guys, not necessarily dudes, 1446 01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,320 Speaker 3: but guys who can win pack twelve games and we 1447 01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:50,120 Speaker 3: now have what competitive wreckers against Michigan, Oregon State beating USC, 1448 01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:53,320 Speaker 3: Arkansas beating Texas, A and M and Texas. Like there's 1449 01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:56,360 Speaker 3: this like a nice undercurrent, a nice sea change happening 1450 01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:59,240 Speaker 3: from where these teams were a few years ago. So 1451 01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:02,840 Speaker 3: Oregon State, even with some bad refereeing which went against them, Yeah, 1452 01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:05,240 Speaker 3: really impressive win to to to go to LA and 1453 01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:09,240 Speaker 3: beat a you know, definitely flawed USC team. Washington turns 1454 01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:12,360 Speaker 3: over Cal I think three times, and they're able to 1455 01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:15,000 Speaker 3: escape with a win after going up comfortably in that game, 1456 01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:17,439 Speaker 3: but at least they're scoring points, but that that game 1457 01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:20,360 Speaker 3: gets taken to overtime. Cal had some success through the air, 1458 01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:23,080 Speaker 3: their defense just isn't where it was. I think you 1459 01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:26,320 Speaker 3: mentioned ASU Colorado. Comfortable win for ASU Colorado is just 1460 01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:29,800 Speaker 3: a broken team. Washington State blows a lead man there 1461 01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:31,599 Speaker 3: half positivity in the second half. 1462 01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:34,880 Speaker 1: Garrett Guarantano got the call with three picks. Hello, old friend, 1463 01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:40,080 Speaker 1: welcome back to college football. Yeah. Utah needed what fourteen 1464 01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:43,479 Speaker 1: points in the fourth quarter to come from behind and 1465 01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:46,000 Speaker 1: win at home. Yeah for Wazoo. 1466 01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:49,040 Speaker 3: If you remember those old Michigan State teams who would 1467 01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:51,479 Speaker 3: look good for three quarters and like that's it, that's all, 1468 01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:55,519 Speaker 3: there's a little bit of that with Wazoo on a 1469 01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:56,400 Speaker 3: worse level. 1470 01:16:57,080 --> 01:17:03,200 Speaker 1: Okay, elsewhere we had Fresno closely should have been against UNLV. 1471 01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:06,040 Speaker 1: UNLV's went down spot not great, but thirty eight to 1472 01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:10,439 Speaker 1: thirty they get the dub Coastal rolls over U MASS 1473 01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:12,679 Speaker 1: fifty three to three. I feel like U Mass plays 1474 01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:16,320 Speaker 1: every team. All the big teams get you Mass BYU 1475 01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:21,760 Speaker 1: thirty five twenty seven over USF. They remain unbeaten as well. 1476 01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:24,320 Speaker 1: Any other games that you want to throw out there. 1477 01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:27,560 Speaker 3: I have the Pat League scoreboard if that interest y. 1478 01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:30,360 Speaker 3: Columbia beat down Georgetown, not beat them down, but thirty 1479 01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:33,320 Speaker 3: five to twenty four. Colgate did beat down your engineers 1480 01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:36,400 Speaker 3: of Lehigh thirty to three. Holy Cross forty five to fifteen, 1481 01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:38,960 Speaker 3: cross Aders three and one, three and all away from home, 1482 01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:42,240 Speaker 3: take down Monmouth by thirty. Lafayette takes down Penn. 1483 01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:46,599 Speaker 1: What's up? Quakers up? Us? Up's up? Fordham comfortable went 1484 01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:50,200 Speaker 1: over Stonybrook. So there you go. I was watching the 1485 01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:54,320 Speaker 1: Notre Dame game with Mama h and she looked at 1486 01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:59,479 Speaker 1: the scoreboard. She says, does Leehi ever win? I guess 1487 01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:00,679 Speaker 1: sometimes I don't know poor. 1488 01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:02,720 Speaker 3: Lehigh By the way, UTSA is my I was. I 1489 01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:05,840 Speaker 3: was messaging you about them, the road Runners four and 1490 01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,879 Speaker 3: oh wins over a big ten team, a win over Memphis. 1491 01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:13,519 Speaker 3: Schedules looking real nice. Sincere McCormick, Jeff Trailer, I'm just saying, 1492 01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:16,920 Speaker 3: UTSA is gonna win a whole bunch of games this year. 1493 01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:21,519 Speaker 1: I think we are all roadrunners. We are all road 1494 01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:25,040 Speaker 1: running roadrunners, thing me somewhere in the studio. Yeah it 1495 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:31,680 Speaker 1: was good. Okay, let's go to our dood alerts. Who 1496 01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:33,439 Speaker 1: do we got? Who do we got? Who do we got? 1497 01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:38,120 Speaker 3: Sir McCormick, Devin Carter, NC State, Emery Jones, Xavier Worthy, 1498 01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:40,960 Speaker 3: Tristan Ebner just doing everything he possibly can to will 1499 01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,080 Speaker 3: Baylor across the finish line. And I'm gonna go with 1500 01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:46,880 Speaker 3: Traylon Burks here for Arkansas and and dtr two guys 1501 01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:50,400 Speaker 3: who beat up will their teams to victory. Quite impressive 1502 01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:52,280 Speaker 3: from those from those squads. 1503 01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:58,600 Speaker 1: That does it. Week four officially in the books a 1504 01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:01,560 Speaker 1: wild week. 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