1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: M. Williamson. We pardon our long intro, our long intro. 2 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: There's all right, that's a yeah, it's a it's a Monday. 3 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: Everybody's celebrating today. That was the Jacob was probably eating 4 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: Kelly and pizza was the problem. But Steelers winning on 5 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: Sunday beating the New Orleans Saints twenty to ten. Uh. 6 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: Interesting game. We've now seen two games with t. J. 7 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: Watt on the football field this year, and the Steelers 8 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: defense has been pretty dominant in both of both of 9 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: those games. Yeah. I read your ten thoughts and you 10 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: laid it out real well about Okay, there was that 11 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: drive at the end of the half where they were 12 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: going to hurry up and they had a little bit 13 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: of momentum, but that was like it, that was it. 14 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: They didn't do anything other than yeah, and then at 15 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: forty yard field goal drive and that was it. That 16 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: was about it. Yeah, and then second half was just 17 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: you know, drive after drive of just interception, turnover, run down, whatever. 18 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: So many third and longs for so many Like we 19 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: did a video today and I kind of chuckled, like 20 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: they were grateful to get a third and seven and 21 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: they were thirds and twelves. I mean brutal. Yeah, the 22 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: Steelers doing a really nice job. And that's what I mean. 23 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: Watt didn't have a sack. He almost had a sack 24 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: in the game. Came up half a yard short short 25 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: of Dalton, got like a half yard gain and they 26 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: they gave him a one yard gain on it, but 27 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: it should have instead. Real reality was it was a sack. 28 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: I mean, he was. I think I made it third 29 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: and ten instead of third, you know, third and eleven. Yeah, so, uh, 30 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: the same difference as having a sack because he was 31 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: flushed out of the pocket. Um, but what blew up 32 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: the plane? You saw You saw the attention that the 33 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: Saints paid to him consistently, and they had Ryan Ramschick 34 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: on that side. It was really their only good remaining 35 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: lineman at this point, I mean, and they were doubling 36 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: what helping him out, their best linemen they're helping out 37 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: because that's that's what the kind of difference that he makes. 38 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: And they both were first round picks out of Wisconsin together, 39 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: they know each other extremely well. Obviously they've got and 40 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: getting to each other. I didn't think of that angle 41 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: until they mentioned it on the broadcast, So I forget 42 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: who was talking to it was Mark Madden just a 43 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: little bit ago. But what kind of impact does what have? Like, well, 44 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: here's this one example, Like you said, nine out of 45 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: ten Saints opponents in this situation with backup lineman everywhere else, Ryan, 46 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: you got that, dude, but you couldn't do in this case. 47 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: It just can't because they weren't just as bad. Yeah, 48 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: you know, and so Alex Highsmith gets two sacks. That's 49 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: two games. Now with what that Alex Highsmith has played, 50 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: and he has five sacks in those two games, right right, 51 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: they should end up with fifteen. Yeah, I mean he's 52 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: got eight to half already. I mean, then they put 53 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: that backup left tackle into that dude was toast at 54 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: some point. Good, you do wonder and they're not going 55 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: to stop paying attention to what? No, but does everybody 56 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: then start match protecting against the Steelers on everything just change, 57 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: which makes your coverage down the field on the backs 58 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: on the back side that much easier to do. Yeah. 59 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 1: I've given very little thought to Steelers Bengals. You know, 60 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: I'm recollecting of what happened, of course, but I just 61 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: thought there as you said that, I'm thinking they're very 62 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: very predominantly an eleven personnel team. So you know, I 63 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: think I mentioned the radio a little bit ago was 64 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: teams that want to play eleven might have to play twelve. 65 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: You know, and we've seen the state and make you 66 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: play left handed. Yeah yeah, I mean you just prepare 67 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: all week differently. You put people in there that are 68 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: blockers instead of Tyler Boyd you know you're running back 69 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: because you know you're running back might be your safety valve. 70 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: But now he's got a chip? What how was that chip? What? 71 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: Stay in? You know they've been throwing a mix in 72 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: a lot. Kamara is a tremendous receiver, but he's also 73 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: able in protection. It's just they make you do things 74 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: you don't want to do offensively, which is huge. It 75 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: makes everyone around you better too. I mean, if you 76 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: look at it, Kamara cut three passages yesterday for nineteen yards. Yeah. Um, 77 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: you know he had four targets. They took Chris o Lave, 78 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: who has been having a great rookie season. Those two 79 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: are the whole offense. Pretty much eradicated him out of 80 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: the offense um because they didn't trust to have the 81 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: time to throw down the field. Uh. And then I 82 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: mentioned today on the on the video that we did, 83 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton was six of eleven for sixty six yards 84 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: and both interceptions outside of numbers throwing his outside receivers. 85 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: Who are the you know, the guys that are getting 86 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: down the field. I mean, you know, again changes the 87 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: complexion of everything with that defense. And I am curious 88 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: to watch the all twenty two and say, did they 89 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: really focus on the Lava and Kamara? Like, you know, 90 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: we talked about going into the week because the other 91 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: guys aren't scary, and if they get a couple of 92 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: players here and there, so be it. You mentioned about 93 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: how they we're really focusing on Taysom Hill snaps as well. 94 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: They obviously practiced against all the stuff he brings to 95 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: the table. Um the well coached group, I thought the 96 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: corners held up well. Um pass rush sure helps, but 97 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: I didn't see anyone on defense that was a major liability. 98 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: I have my thoughts on Spillane and we'll keep it 99 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: positive for now. But but overall, I mean, you're got 100 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: to see the ripple effect when the star is in there. Yeah, 101 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara had eight carries for twenty six yards and 102 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: he had a fourteen yard carry. Any of the decent one, right. 103 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: Uh so it was seven for twelve on his other rushes, 104 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: and it started right out of the gate. I thought. 105 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: Field position, Yeah, it was a huge factor. It's been 106 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: a while since they they got the after the they 107 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 1: get the opening kickoff, drove to midfield, punted, got it 108 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: down inside the ten and they the Saints couldn't move 109 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: the ball. They get the ball back at the midfield 110 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: to go in for a touchdown, and I guess is 111 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: their best field position in a month, oh year? Probably 112 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: just the game was probably their best field position game. 113 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: I mean, they were last in league defensively of where 114 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: they had to start their drives. I mean, and you think, 115 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: if you think about it, you know, if they give 116 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: up let's say they give up twenty yards there and 117 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: now the Saints are punning from the twenty five, totally 118 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: different situation. You know, that's stuff very important. I mean, 119 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: especially a team like this that's gonna win in the 120 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: margins and turnovers and um, they did a good job 121 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: to have not an overriding theme to me in this 122 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: game for the Steelers, especially the defense, was they didn't 123 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: hurt themselves either, you know, I mean some of those 124 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: long drives We know that they're not the most explosive 125 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: passing offense, that's for sure, but they did get some 126 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: explosives on the ground. But they did sustain those drives 127 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: without taking the holding penalty and being in third and 128 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: fifteen and you know those types of thing. That was 129 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: huge as well. They really won the penalty battle. Yeah, 130 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: the Saints secondary was just overwhelmed there outside corner. I mean, um, 131 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: you know, I think Deante Johnson, uh, the one slant 132 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 1: that he ran, they had zero coverage on and the 133 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: guy just grabbed him because he knew if he caught 134 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: the ball there was nobody back. There was a touchdown. Um, 135 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: you know, so I think Deante was a little frustrated 136 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: by all that. But um, you're a different vantage point 137 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: that I did. I watched on TV like most of 138 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: our listeners, but my hunches just by the way those 139 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: corners were playing and what I did see Pickens and 140 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: Deonte ate their lunch. Yeah, I mean it just really did. Yeah, 141 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: I mean they did, but the Steelers didn't have to 142 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: throw it a lot. No, they didn't have throw it 143 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: a lot. And we'll get the Kenny at some point, 144 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: but I don't think he saw it all that well either. Yeah, 145 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: could I think, you know, with with what the Saints 146 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: were doing. You know, they showed again zero blitz a lot, 147 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: throwing a lot of different stuff at him. Um. You know, 148 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: I did. I do think that they did mix things up, 149 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: you know well enough that that confused him at times. Um. 150 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: And you know he did have to be cognizant where 151 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: the honey badger was at. That's the one you want 152 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: to stay away from those guys. But uh, you know, overall, 153 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: they took care of the football. They ran for two 154 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: of the teen yards. What a difference to run game, Hue, 155 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I mean I thought this game was 156 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: one across the board, but on both sides, they won 157 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: the trench battle and they absolutely won the run game. 158 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: When you are run, when you are rushed the other 159 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: team by almost two yards, you don't lose, you know, 160 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it just makes you move the ball at 161 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: will chunks you wear them down. Um. You know you 162 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: mentioned the offense for the Saints in the second half. 163 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: They couldn't get anything going. They had no foundation. Steelers 164 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: have too often been in that situation. But it's just 165 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: so much better when you can get something going on 166 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: the ground and I'm really excited as this is sort 167 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: of Steeler related, but like I used this example today, 168 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady, they just ran the ball 169 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: over and over and over this week. I mean, you 170 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: think they don't want to throw it all over? Rogers 171 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: through twenty passes in an overtime game. Brady was a 172 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: few more. They won. They got their teams back on 173 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: the winning track. Often talk about Atlanta, the Giants, the Bears, 174 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: these teams that don't have any talent, Well, they at 175 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: least put. They're still competitive because they're running the football. 176 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: And I'm a I'm a Doric with analytics, as everyone knows, 177 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: but I hope there's some studies this offseason that kind 178 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: of go back to, oh, the running game doesn't matter. 179 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: I think the running game more than ever before because 180 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: he's winning their division. They can't throw the ball. So 181 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: many teams, so many opponents, so many defenses are just 182 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: you wouldn't run the ball, have at it? Okay, Yeah, 183 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: Well if you're gonna get some shifting back in a 184 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: big way, and it might take a year to correct itself, 185 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: but just keep pounding the ball and you know it 186 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: pays off. It makes things a little easier, and it 187 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: even the playing field. Yeah, you know, and I you know, 188 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: Nazia Harris. I thought Um had his best game obviously 189 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: the year in terms of what he got in the ground, 190 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: but even the way he looked. I thought the way 191 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: he thought he was much more decisive if you're getting 192 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: downhill immediately. There were a couple of times when they 193 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: tried to run into the outside stop that. Don't do 194 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: that anymore, just running up the middle. I was critical 195 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: that he ran like a small back, and he didn't 196 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: in this game. No, Um, and Warren compliments him really well, Yeah, 197 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: I think it's legs added to the equation without question. No, 198 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: we've talked about that. I mean, I think they had 199 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 1: a hundred and twenty six I just did the first 200 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: half review. They had like a hundred twenty six rushing 201 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: yards from the quarterbacks this season going into this game. 202 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: If you remember they had like fifty eight yards rushing 203 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 1: last year from the quarterbacks. Well, now you just add 204 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: a fifty one more to that with pickett Um. I mean, 205 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: we've even talked to you more than that. Give me 206 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: more of that. I mean, how many times we had 207 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: this conversation in the off season, not knowing what the 208 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: offense was gonna look like, what what's Strabisky and Picket 209 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: gonna do as runners? And we were like, let's just 210 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: say they get eighteen yards a game through seventeen games. 211 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: That's so many more rushing yards that they would have 212 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 1: had last year, you know. And it's even better than that. 213 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: And I have some issues with some of his runs. 214 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: I think he was too frenetic in the pocket and 215 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: didn't need to go. But much like Justin Fields, who 216 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: everyone's raving about, he's a very developed player in the pocket. 217 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: Fields I'm talking about, and he he has a crutch 218 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: with this great running ability. And I think Kenny's better 219 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: in the pocket than Fields. He's not the runner Fields is, 220 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: but it's if he didn't have it, it it had been 221 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: bid be in big trouble. Yeah. I look at you know, 222 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: the six sacks that they gave up in this game. 223 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:18,839 Speaker 1: First of all, I don't know why they were throwing 224 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: it thirty six times, and then they added the picket, uh, 225 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: the picket scrambles and it was probably over forty and 226 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: you ran the beltfointacks. Yeah, it was somewhere around that number. 227 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: Too many, too many in that in that kind of game, 228 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: especially when the running he said, though, I mean they 229 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: were run. I mean there was a heavy run ratio. 230 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: But we're winning. You're winning, and you were winning, you 231 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: know decisively. Um. You know for much of the second half, 232 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: pound the football and it was working in one yard 233 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: two yards, you know, it was I thought, you know, 234 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: they took that ten nothing lead, and they did so 235 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: by running the football, and then they kind of got 236 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: away from it for a little while, but then they 237 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: got back to it. Um, keep doing that. And if 238 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: it's working like that, you know, all right, and you know, 239 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: if you what's the basketball term, you know, uh, shoot 240 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: me out his own or yeah, absolutely, if you're gonna 241 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: hand me five yards of care you time and time 242 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: again with the rookie quarterback, why do we have to 243 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,479 Speaker 1: get fancy? You know, even if it's you know, if 244 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: it's three yards on first down, it's three yards on 245 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: first down because you're probably gonna get five on the 246 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: next one. Now you're in third and two and you know, um, 247 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: so I you know, I I to this offense has 248 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: been that's great. Yeah, you know what I mean. Um, 249 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: the Saints had been very good on third downs this year. Yeah, 250 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: defensively and the Steelers converted. Yeah, it was great, and 251 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: some of them were third and medium are long too, 252 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, they did stay ahead of the chains. 253 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: I did think Pickett played well on third downs in particular, 254 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: um boy's third down defense who was standing outstanding. Yeah, 255 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: I thought they really knew where in New Orleans wanted 256 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: to go at the ball. I thought I thought that 257 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: the coaching staff defensively really did a nice job. You 258 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: saw a couple of shifts. I think they've been shining 259 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: for about six weeks now, Um, I mean they've They've 260 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: pitched shutouts in two of their last three games, in 261 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: the second half of those games, including at Miami, a 262 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: team that you just saw that put up forty four 263 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: points yesterday on the Browns, maybe the best offense in 264 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: the league. Yeah, um, you know they did it. They 265 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: did a number on them in the second half of 266 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: that game. But I thought there are a couple of 267 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: times where the defense really shifted late to where all 268 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: of a sudden, New Orleans was going with It's like 269 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: they almost knew where New Orleans was going with the 270 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 1: ball before the Saints were, you know, before they ran 271 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: the play, and great familiar with Dalton. I don't think 272 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: it's a super complex offense. But as I saw in 273 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: your article, this was a team that was averaging points 274 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: of games with Wes Dalton as the quarterback. I mean 275 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: they've moved to football. Their yuards for play or high. 276 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: You know, the e p A is high, you know. 277 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: I mean it's not a joke offense by any stretch. 278 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 1: So it's good, a good team win. I think, you know, 279 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: get it. Put a little pep back and everybody's step 280 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: in that locker room, you know, and you and you talk. 281 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: You know, it reaffirms I think Mike Tomlin talked about 282 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: this after the game, and I know Kim Heyward did 283 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: you know, kind of reaffirms some of the stuff that 284 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: they've been teaching here. Um, you know, you can teach 285 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: that stuff and if you're losing, it's like all right, coach, 286 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: you're telling me this stuff works, but it's we got 287 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: another loss here. Well now you've done it and you 288 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: had you know this, really that have been around the 289 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: block and if you look at this, it works's it 290 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: should have been. It was a FOURD. You know, he 291 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: missed a forty nine. He missed a thirty three thirty 292 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: eight yard field going a forty nine yard field goal. 293 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: Those are those are ones you may. I mean they 294 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: put twenty six and the point points on the board yesterday. 295 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: Everybody's going, that was what a game. And I've gotten 296 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: a couple today like, well, that's only their first game 297 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: of twenty offensive points or whatever it was, And I'm like, yeah, 298 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: but I bet if bos was there, it would look 299 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: a little better, you know. And the other thing about 300 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: it too, you're talking about field position and whatnot. Miss. 301 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: Field goals to me are the same as a turnover, 302 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: you know. They Yeah, they were plus two in turnover differential. Great, 303 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: but the two field goals in the gate that make 304 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: it down to zero, and then the fact that they 305 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: stopped the saying some fourth down to me, in my world, 306 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: their plus one. Yeah, they were plus one in turnover 307 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: ratio they generated too. That's great. But imagine if your 308 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: kicker makes both those, then you're plus five, right, you 309 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: know what I mean? The other one, and you know, 310 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: I thought this was a big drive as well. Um, 311 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: the field goal drive UH to start the uh to 312 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: start the fourth quarter. It was actually they started it 313 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: late in the third quarter. This is the one that 314 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: put them ahead. New Orleans punts them down inside. It 315 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: was it the two. They made a great pun they 316 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: bounded sideways out of bounds at to two, and you're thinking, 317 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: oh man, if they don't get a first down here, 318 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: now you're given the Saints of all back at midfield. 319 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: It's a tie ball game. They go eighty three yards 320 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: and eleven place. Does it have it on there? Like? 321 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: How how much times? It was? Eleven plays? I mean 322 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: that's close enough. I was just curious how much clock 323 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: did that eat? I mean that was a thirteen minute drive. Yeah, 324 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: I don't on time of possession was I'm sorry it was, 325 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: but I mean sure this offense isn't putting on forty points. 326 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: We know, but it it's all baby steps. They don't 327 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: make that drive against any defense. And week two, Week four, 328 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: I just believe that. Well, here's the here's the you 329 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: know I meant I mentioned in the article the the 330 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: second half possessions for Saints. Here are the Steelers fifty 331 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: nine or sixty four yards miss field goal, eighty three 332 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: yards field goal, forty four yards touchdown, four yards miss 333 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: field goal that was after the turnover, and then forty 334 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: three yards end the game. So really that every one 335 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: of their second half drives D was a was a 336 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: scoring drive anyone that that mattered. They wan an opportunity 337 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: put points. They were opportunities to put points in the board, 338 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: which you know, again we we just haven't help with 339 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: the go between the uprights or whatever, um a quick 340 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: negg have. I know they scored two touchdowns, but by 341 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: no means do I think, oh the red zone, you know, 342 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: I mean pick gets on a one yard sneak, the 343 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: pickings play whatever. I still want to see a twelve 344 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: yard zip it in there between a safety and the linebacker. 345 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: You know. Uh, the red zone stuff to me is 346 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: still worrisome, you know, as are they explosive pass plays. 347 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: But you know, but they did have again they won 348 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: the explosive plays period in this game. Four long runs 349 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: you had the four long runs you had too long passes. 350 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: One was one was Jala warn on a catching run, 351 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: but that's allowed to Yeah, you know, different podcast today. 352 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, I want to see him more in the 353 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: passing game. I thought he was real force in the 354 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: passing game. Yeah, it just makes guys miss in the 355 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 1: open field. Quick little strider hard to keep up with. 356 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, you do like to see it again. I 357 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: liked the incorporation of some quick slants into the offense. 358 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: We hadn't seen much of that more in Breaking Routes. Yeah, um, 359 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: they did it right out of the gate to hit 360 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: Pickens on one. They had Johnson on one again. I 361 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: mentioned the one that they hit that would have been 362 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: a touchdown if if Johnson's not interfered with. I mean, 363 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: you're putting that stuff on tape. Um, you know, now opponents, 364 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 1: that's okay. Now he's not just gonna talk, you know, 365 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 1: lob it down the sideline. Um, they're gonna they're gonna 366 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: try to hit some stuff and then I hope basicly 367 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 1: a slant and go off that or you know, rightving 368 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: just comebacks things you know in Breaking Routes in general. Um, 369 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: this is probably a bigger conversation than we have for 370 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: this segment. I don't know how much you've you've studied 371 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: the snap counts and whatnot, but there there's some interesting 372 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: trends that I saw. Is that Sims and Gunner basically 373 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: split the slot duties right down the middle and eleven, 374 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 1: but they were also in twelve much more than usual. 375 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if they're feeling their way out or are 376 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: they going to try to be bigger or how how 377 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: they're going to handle basically their fifth skill guy. I mean, 378 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: we know the four that are always gonna be the field, 379 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: one of the two backs. Um. But it worked, and 380 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: I think they gained some value experience with that. I'm 381 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: not sure what the plan is exactly, though, the plan 382 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: is to continue to do that, you know, I don't 383 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: I don't think that they view I know they talked 384 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: about Sims being, you know, the the guy that primarily 385 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: replaces Chase Claypool. But it's gonna be a combination of 386 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: those guys, and right, you may see those guys in 387 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 1: there a little bit more often because they're both you know, 388 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 1: they give you a bigger body. They're all different. Yeah, 389 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: there're a lot different than sim And you know they 390 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: they even trotted out that Wildcat again a couple of times, um, 391 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: and and that that has Warren and Harris on the 392 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: field at the same time. And that's intriguing to be too, 393 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: because they're both good blockers like that these pony packages 394 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 1: when one running backs never blocked anyone's life, like never 395 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: quite understood that. But these guys will both block. Yeah, 396 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: they're both willing and able to do so so good 397 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: overall team win. We'll see if they can you know, 398 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: can carry that over to next week against the Bengals. 399 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: The team they should have some pretty good confidence against well, 400 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: I would think so, you know, after what happened in 401 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: week one. Um, you know you handled that team. Um, 402 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: we'll see whether Jamar Chase is back this week. Yeah, 403 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: I mean I didn't hear any serious dealer injury news, 404 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: but maybe we can talk about that. There's some minor 405 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: bumps and bruises here and there, um, you know, pick 406 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: it with an ankle, but that that shouldn't be a 407 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: major thing. As you know, some guys with your usual 408 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: Monday limping around kind of stuff that we're over there today. 409 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: But nothing that's that seems to be too bad, I thought, 410 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: Ogan Joebi was was very disruptive on the inside. Adams 411 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: played quite well too again and Cam was really good again. 412 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean a lot to a lot to 413 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 1: take out of the game, a lot that you that 414 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: you would like. You can subscribe now to the Drive 415 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: here on Steelers Nation Radio for every every episode that 416 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: we do is available for you to download. You can 417 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 1: subscribe today through the Steelers Mobile app. The I Heart 418 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: Radio app, and wherever you find your podcast. He is 419 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lally. You're listening to the 420 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. 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