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Speaker 1: Welcome to the final installment of Giants Top one hundred Players,

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Speaker 1: presented by Bud Light. I'm Bob Papa, joined by Bob Blobber,

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Speaker 1: longtime writer and one of the voters in the Top

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Speaker 1: one hundred for the New York Giants. Bob, we've reached

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Speaker 1: the final ten. And what a fun exercise this has

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Speaker 1: been getting to this point.

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Speaker 2: So fantastic to think about so many great players, think

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Speaker 2: about so many great eras. And that's the real challenge is,

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Speaker 2: you know, how do you determine which player is the

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Speaker 2: best given an era? And you know, you have to

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Speaker 2: kind of juggle a lot of things, so really good

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Speaker 2: thinking process and I think it came out pretty well.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: We got two guys here that are inside that top ten,

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Speaker 1: and we'll start with the Captain Hall of Famer Harry Carson. Harry,

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Speaker 1: when you got the news that you had made it

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Speaker 1: to this point of the process, what was some of

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Speaker 1: the thoughts that went through your mind?

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Speaker 4: For me, it was.

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Speaker 5: Jee just being mentioned in the top ten, and I

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Speaker 5: mean it was it was like I was blown away

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Speaker 5: because I never really considered myself to be that kind.

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Speaker 4: Of player to warrant being, you know.

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Speaker 5: In the top ten. You know, I maybe top hundred, yeah, maybe,

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Speaker 5: but top ten.

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Speaker 4: That was special. That was really special.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go back to draft day nineteen seventy six.

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Speaker 1: What's going through your mind from I gotta go from

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Speaker 1: South Carolina State and I'm going to be a New

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 5: To be honest with you, Bob, I really didn't know.

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Speaker 5: I went to South Carolina State, and that's you know.

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Speaker 5: I was a down defensive lineman coming out of college.

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Speaker 5: Marty Schoenhammer drafted me and wanted to teach me how

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Speaker 5: to play mid linebacker. And there are people who, when

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Speaker 5: I was drafted, doubted that I could play the position,

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Speaker 5: being drafted to play a position that I had never

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Speaker 5: played before, the mindset, the attitude that you have to

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Speaker 5: have to play that position. I was really new to this,

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Speaker 5: this whole thing, you know. I mean, there are a

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Speaker 5: lot of guys who pulled me aside to share their

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Speaker 4: And I was.

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Speaker 5: Able to basically follow the lead of what those guys

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Speaker 5: had to say to get to be in the top

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Speaker 5: ten of all time great giants.

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Speaker 1: How you were captain of your college team. But what

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Speaker 1: did it mean to be named the captain of the

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Speaker 1: New York Giants, especially as a defensive player.

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Speaker 5: For one thing, it was special to be a mid

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Speaker 5: linebacker in the biggest market in the country. Then, after

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Speaker 5: my third year, to be elected captain by my teammates

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Speaker 5: was something extremely gratifying. I was honored to be named captain,

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Speaker 5: So it was really special to be their leader.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about that linebacking corps, that crunch bunch.

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Speaker 5: Brad, Brian, Lawrence and myself. You know, we were at

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Speaker 5: a crunch bunch and we were big, strong, fast, and

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Speaker 5: we were able to get after people. Lawrence was on

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Speaker 5: one side, Brad was on the other side, Brian was

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Speaker 5: next to me, and you just felt like you could

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Speaker 5: and you could see the fear in their eyes. I

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Speaker 5: had never been a part of a group that demanded

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Speaker 1: Nineteen seventy three Giants are playing in the Yankee Stadium.

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Speaker 1: New York City cancels the least because they find out

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Speaker 1: that the Giants are moving to Jersey, so they have

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Speaker 1: to go to the Yale Bowl seventy three seventy four.

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Speaker 1: Then they played at Chase Stadium in seventy five. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Giants, the Jets, the Yankees and Mets all playing.

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Speaker 3: In Chae in seventy five.

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Speaker 1: Giants Stadium opens in seventy six, they finally have their home.

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Speaker 7: Welcome to the Giants Stadium.

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Speaker 4: Just later immediate Lanton of me will take you to

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Speaker 4: the upper level plans Roger step and enjoy.

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Speaker 1: The GAMELI I'll start with you. When you think about

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Speaker 3: I think of the wind.

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Speaker 8: As a quarterback, I think of the wind and trying

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Speaker 8: to you know, waking up on Sundays walking through that tunnel,

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Speaker 8: an effect by performance on the field. But also you

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Speaker 8: think about the great crowds and the fans loud in

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Speaker 8: the stadium with pumped up for big moments, supporting us,

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Speaker 8: cheering for our touchdowns and so just a great support

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Speaker 8: that all Giants fans have given me, given the teams

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Speaker 8: always had our back, and just that electric feeling in

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Speaker 3: Getting to play in that stadium was a real treat.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't until the end of October in seventy six

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Speaker 1: against the Cowboys where the stadium was finally christened. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: you guys were not a winning team in those first

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Speaker 1: few years, far from it, far from it. But when

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Speaker 1: you think about now eighty one, you beat the Eagles

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Speaker 1: on the road in the playoffs, which was stunning to

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Speaker 1: us as Giants fans, having not been to the playoffs

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Speaker 1: since nineteen sixty three. It was something you thought only

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Speaker 1: other franchises experienced. Then eighty four you back it up,

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Speaker 1: then that fourteen and two season in eighty six ending

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Speaker 1: with a Super Bowl. When you think about that stadium

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Speaker 1: go this way, do you still feel it? Do you

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Speaker 1: still feel that excitement? And when you go back in

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Speaker 1: your mind's eye and think about that building, Oh, they're

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Speaker 7: The ball, they gonna get a touchdown, to be old touchdown.

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Speaker 5: I went to a school that probably had ten thousand

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Speaker 5: I remember standing in the tunnel getting ready to run

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Speaker 5: fans yelling for the Giants. I mean, it was an

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Speaker 5: altogether different experience for me. You know, Giants Stadium for

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Speaker 5: when it was really really cold. We would stand in

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Speaker 7: Oh.

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Speaker 1: The Filet Paper program seven seconds ago had the Giants

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Speaker 1: will be taking the reservation.

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Speaker 3: From parting.

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Speaker 1: The gatorade bass originated by Harry Carson. Where did it

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Speaker 5: Well, it really wasn't my idea. I always give credit

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Speaker 5: week and we're about to play the Washington Redskins, and

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Speaker 5: so as time was winding down, we were so jubilant

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Speaker 5: We came up behind him with the bucket and we

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Speaker 5: drenched him. Once I got him. That sort of set

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Speaker 5: things in motion, because Bill was very superstitious. If you

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Speaker 5: to keep doing it.

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Speaker 4: So as we were.

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Speaker 5: Winning, I had to keep drenching him with getory. We

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Speaker 5: became a symbol of the eighty six season. Super Bowl

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Speaker 5: twenty one. How did you wind up as the lone

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Speaker 5: captain for the coin toss? You know, quite frankly, I

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Speaker 5: didn't know that I was going to be the long captain.

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Speaker 5: I was on the sideline talking with Parcels and the

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Speaker 5: and so Parcells said go, and I said, well what

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Speaker 4: Rot Phil go?

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Speaker 5: And so I started walking out on the field by myself,

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Speaker 5: and I really didn't think about it. And then halfway

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Speaker 7: I'm a giant captain, Harry Carson.

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Speaker 5: I just felt honored to be representing all the guys

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Speaker 5: on a team. But the mere fact that Parcels trusted

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Speaker 5: me was something extremely gratifying.

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Speaker 1: Eli how about for you, I mean, because you know

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Speaker 1: you've played the most recently of everybody. What were your

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Speaker 1: thoughts when you heard about this?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, just a great honor just to be in that

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Speaker 8: list of the great names for this storied franchise and

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Speaker 8: how many championships and great teams and Hall of famers,

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Speaker 8: and you know, Harry Carson once didn't right across from me,

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Speaker 8: But to be in that list is a great honor,

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Speaker 8: and it was just thrilled also, Yeah, a little like Harry,

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Speaker 8: a little shocked that. You know, I think I can

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Speaker 8: name ten players that are better than me, maybe more

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Speaker 8: deserving of this than me as well.

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Speaker 1: When you think about giant stadium and you think about

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Speaker 1: first thing you think of.

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Speaker 3: I think of the wind.

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Speaker 8: As a quarterback, I think of the wind and trying

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Speaker 8: to you know, waking up on Sundays walking through that tunnel,

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Speaker 8: effect by performance on the field. But also you think

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Speaker 8: about the great crowds and the fans loud in the stadium,

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Speaker 8: have given given me, given the teams always had our back,

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Speaker 8: and just that electric feeling in the air on a

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Speaker 3: Getting to play in that stadium was a real treat.

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Speaker 1: First choice in the two thousand and four NFL draft

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Speaker 1: is Eli Manning. You're the number one overall pick. You

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Speaker 1: don't get the starting job as a rookie. How did

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Speaker 1: you reconcile that in your mind?

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Speaker 8: I was I wanted to get the starting job, but

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Speaker 8: I didn't get down. I thought it was important for

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Speaker 8: me to get some playing time that first year.

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Speaker 1: We kind of got a big hand right there.

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Speaker 9: He is, Eli Manning jogging out of the tunnels.

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Speaker 7: Number ten.

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Speaker 1: Do a huge ovation here at Giant Stadium.

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Speaker 3: We win.

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Speaker 1: When you finally did get a chance to start, you

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Speaker 1: played some of the best defenses in the league week

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Speaker 1: after week after week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: The first game is versus Atlanta. Threw my first touchdown

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Speaker 8: to Jeremy Shockey.

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Speaker 10: Throws it over the middle, touchdown, shocky, But the record

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Speaker 10: show Eli Manning's first touchdown past coast to Jeremy.

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Speaker 3: Shockey had some you know, decent games, had some struggles

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Speaker 3: we did. We only won one game the last game

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Speaker 3: of season versus Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Now Manning will throw.

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Speaker 9: Stops throws one left down the sideline touchdown, Tyrae.

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Speaker 3: That was big for me and my confidence.

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Speaker 8: I think the players and their confidence around me, and

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Speaker 8: they're kind of in the season, you know, a bad

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Speaker 8: season on a good.

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Speaker 1: Note after that first year of struggle, now the stakes

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Speaker 1: kind of get ramped up. What did you learn from

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Speaker 1: that second season?

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Speaker 8: That second season, we know, we had a good season.

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Speaker 8: We won the NFC East, you know, win eleven and five.

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Speaker 7: Put down fucking up for us. The Giants have come

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Speaker 10: A seventeen to three halftime jepisit and they now have

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Speaker 3: Fourth and goal.

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Speaker 9: Giants them up fort the goal.

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Speaker 2: The gonna win the ball game.

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Speaker 1: The Giants may have saved their season.

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Speaker 3: That was huge.

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Speaker 7: Welcome to lambeau Field in Green Bay for the NFC

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Speaker 7: Championship Game. The second coldest game ever at lambeau Field

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Speaker 1: Now you're in the NFC Championship game, you gotta go

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Speaker 8: That was just, you know, kind of my favorite game,

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Speaker 3: I mean, this, this is it.

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Speaker 1: But you're dealing. I mean you're just throwing the ball

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Speaker 3: And Plaxico was he was feeling it.

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Speaker 8: And really we ran the same route, like, you know,

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Speaker 8: And also the way we went out, we missed, you know,

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Speaker 9: It goes times again from forty seven yards. Snap is good,

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Speaker 12: And us good Lawrence Times just kick the Giants to

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Speaker 6: Man, here you go, Thank you, brother, Let's get it.

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Speaker 3: Thank you man, let's go get it. I'm good, Thank you, Matt,

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Speaker 9: The New York Football Giants and the New England Patriots

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Speaker 1: As a team. You guys are pretty confident going into

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Speaker 3: We felt good going into that game.

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Speaker 8: And we went out there and did our job and

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Speaker 7: Man, he would throw it to the end, don't touchdown.

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Speaker 7: They tell we have a coach other.

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Speaker 1: Ty tough of lead who the eleven oh five we.

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Speaker 7: Go in the ball game.

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Speaker 1: So now you guys jump back in front for the

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Speaker 1: They went down the field. Randy Moss beats Webster touchdown, like,

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 8: It's a great clip of Michael Strahan walking down the

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Speaker 11: Seventeen thirteen at the final, okay, seventeenth thirteen.

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Speaker 7: Fellas what turned down?

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Speaker 6: We all world tamping believe.

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Speaker 1: It and it will happen.

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Speaker 8: I was a little upset as like the quarterback. I

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Speaker 8: of like, Michael, like you just let him score. If

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Speaker 1: The Giants do what they have to do.

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Speaker 9: They've got to go eighty three yards in two thirty

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Speaker 8: You know, we're down four and there's only one option.

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Speaker 8: You know, the scorer's got to be seventeen to fourteen.

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Speaker 3: First to ten.

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Speaker 9: At the thirteen thirty nine seconds to go, Giants.

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Speaker 1: Down by four.

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Speaker 3: You know, the Patriots that their mentality kind of down

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Speaker 12: And that is it for New York Giants have knocked

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Speaker 1: You guys win, the confetti comes down. I mean, is

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Speaker 3: At first, it's just chaos.

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Speaker 8: You're hugging everybody and you're around. There was kind of

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Speaker 1: Let's go back said the twenty eleven season. And obviously

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Speaker 6: Is Eli Manning an elite quarterback?

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Speaker 3: Are you a top five, top ten quarterback?

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Speaker 3: I can make every throw. I can you know I've

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Speaker 1: The San Francisco NFC Championship game. One of the most

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's got to be up there. And you know,

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Speaker 8: Man and ham On a touchdown late in the fourth

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Speaker 1: Ships one to the left to the end zone. Touchdown

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Speaker 1: Giants for real, anningham Man. The Giants are back in

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Speaker 8: A couple of special teams turnovers in our favor really helped.

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Speaker 3: Us get some field position.

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Speaker 1: Watch the ball Giants say they have it.

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Speaker 9: Snap is low kicking on its way, it's got the

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Speaker 12: Is good and words times. It's done it again. He's

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Speaker 12: New York Giants football is on the air. It's the

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Speaker 1: In this Super Bowl, I mean a lot of people

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Speaker 1: picked you guys to win, and you really outplayed him

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Speaker 8: We had this all in mentality for the last six

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Speaker 3: We had to keep that all in mentality going. We

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Speaker 8: Sure enough, you know, got the game to the fourth

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Speaker 1: Hand off Bradshaw.

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Speaker 1: He thought about stopping.

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Speaker 8: Probably to give Patriots the ball back with a little

451
00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:43,840
Speaker 8: bit more time than we wanted.

452
00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:48,000
Speaker 10: To Brady's back. Brady's under pressure, Brady's chased. Brady heaves

453
00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,120
Speaker 10: one down the middle of the field.

454
00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:50,720
Speaker 3: Into the end zone.

455
00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:51,480
Speaker 7: A jump ball.

456
00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,080
Speaker 8: I kind of see the ball, you know, get hit

457
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,040
Speaker 8: and then I lose it and then finally a second layer.

458
00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:58,719
Speaker 1: I kind of see it dribbling on the ground.

459
00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,360
Speaker 3: Ain't good play. The ball game's over.

460
00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,960
Speaker 7: How the Giants have won Super Bowl forty.

461
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,080
Speaker 1: Six second super Bowl? They're always different. First is always

462
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,480
Speaker 1: the first second is special too, But what does the

463
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:13,879
Speaker 1: second one mean? To you as far as personally and organizationally.

464
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 3: First time, it was all kind of brand new. It

465
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Speaker 3: kind of came out of nowhere.

466
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Speaker 8: The second one, you end up thinking about the other

467
00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,639
Speaker 8: guys who were getting their first Super Bowl and it's

468
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,800
Speaker 8: an exciting time for myself and anything about those guys

469
00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,520
Speaker 8: who are going through it for the first time, you

470
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,920
Speaker 8: know what that feeling is, and smiling for them.

471
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Speaker 1: In the Giants Stadium and in the Giants facility, there's

472
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Speaker 1: a lot of history around and obviously you've played more

473
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 1: games than anybody in the history of the Giants, so

474
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,080
Speaker 1: you spent the most time in the building of anybody.

475
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,959
Speaker 1: But what was it like to be able to interact

476
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Speaker 1: with and be around former players that tend to be

477
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,119
Speaker 1: around a lot, whereas other franchises don't necessarily have that.

478
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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's just a it's a really special and I

479
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 8: think it goes back to, you know, well into Marrow,

480
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 8: what's a giant, always a giant, And that's not something

481
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 8: he just said, that's something truly he truly meant he

482
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,879
Speaker 8: believed in, and that culture still stands today and so

483
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 8: great players are always around the facility they come back.

484
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 3: I appreciate the organization, the ownership.

485
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,680
Speaker 8: It's a family and you once you come in here,

486
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,640
Speaker 8: same guys that were in the equipment room, the film room,

487
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 8: the training room when I got here as a rookie.

488
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 8: Twenty years later, they're still there and there's you know,

489
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 8: people in the front office. So it is a family

490
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,159
Speaker 8: and you always feel welcome. You're always invited back and

491
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,200
Speaker 8: come have lunch, come watch practice, come hang with the

492
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Speaker 8: players and interact.

493
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Speaker 3: And it's unbelievable to have that access. Well, and Tamara

494
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,680
Speaker 3: always said, once a giant, always a giant. For me,

495
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Speaker 3: it's only a giant, Bob. Listen.

496
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Speaker 2: You know these two players here are as deserving as

497
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Speaker 2: there are. And this was not a I don't think

498
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 2: it was difficult to put Harry Carson and Eli Manning

499
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 2: in the top ten in the history of the franchise.

500
00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 2: Now it's one hundred years. So that does a lot

501
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 2: of players and incorporates a lot of eras, and there

502
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 2: are some amazing players along the way. But you know

503
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 2: they've earned it, and you know they played in different eras,

504
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 2: different rules, different athletes. You know, they're better athletes than

505
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 2: they were in the twenties and thirties. It's just that's

506
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 2: how sports goes right when you you know, it develops

507
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 2: like that. So, I mean, these are two of the

508
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 2: most deserving guys to be in this spot.

509
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Speaker 1: Harry, I want to ask you about number eight on

510
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Speaker 1: this list. Sam Huff came to the Giants in nineteen

511
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 1: fifty six. They win the NFL Championship that first year

512
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 1: in Yankee Stadium. You played similar position, that inside linebacker position,

513
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 1: and you had a chance to be around him, even

514
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: though he was retired as a player, but he always

515
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 1: wore his giant proudly. What were some of the things

516
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 1: that you learned from him and your experiences with him.

517
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 4: He was a tough guy. He was a tough guy

518
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 4: playing during a tough era.

519
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 6: What do you do that for a you doing it

520
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 6: one more time? He ain't.

521
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 3: I want to talk you one.

522
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: I don't do that.

523
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,439
Speaker 3: You went again to get a broken out?

524
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:13,959
Speaker 7: Don't do bo?

525
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 5: You know, playing against you know, the players who were

526
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 5: playing during that era, he stood out. And one of

527
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 5: the things that I thought about when I was coming into,

528
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 5: you know, playing for the Giants, was I wanted to

529
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 5: be mentioned in the same breath as Sam.

530
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 7: Huff intercepts Plumb on a spectacular catch.

531
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Speaker 5: Even before you know I was drafted to play with

532
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 5: the Giants. I recognized that name, Sam Huff and at

533
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 5: some point I reached out to get some advice from

534
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 5: you know, Sam about playing the position. He was gracious

535
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 5: enough to give me time and I really appreciated it.

536
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 5: And subsequently, when I got into the Pro Football Hall

537
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 5: of Fame, I was able to see Sam on a

538
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 5: regular basis and we had our share of conversations talking

539
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 5: about playing the game.

540
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 2: Sam Hubbs first year, he was ready to leave. He

541
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 2: actually left the team. He wanted to just quit. Jim

542
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 2: Lee Hall was too tough on him. They didn't have

543
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 2: the right position for him. He was a down lineman.

544
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 2: They were looking at him.

545
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 3: There, and he left.

546
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 2: He literally left for the airport one day and Vince

547
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 2: Lombardi was dispatched to go get him. And Lombardi sees

548
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 2: him at the airport and he says, what are you doing.

549
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 3: I'm leaving.

550
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 2: You know they're yelling at me. You know I've never

551
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 2: had this before.

552
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 3: I can't take it.

553
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 2: Lombardi says, no, you have to come back.

554
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 3: You know you have to come back. You have to

555
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 3: continue playing. You're too good. Stop.

556
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 2: So Lombardi goes back. He tells Jim Lee Hall, no

557
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 2: more yelling, find a spotform, figure it out, and Tom

558
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 2: Landry then puts him in the flex defense as that

559
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 2: four to three middle linebacker and then the rest is history.

560
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 2: But he he was ready to be done, and he

561
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 2: kind of laughed about it as his career went on.

562
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 2: But imagine what might not have happened? Sure had that changed, you.

563
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 4: Know, those middle linebackers tend to be very fragile.

564
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 3: Right, why they don't want to be yelling.

565
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 2: And then Vince Lombardi then coming back and telling the

566
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Speaker 2: coach don't yell at yeah, don't yeah. Vince was the

567
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 2: last guy you'd expect to be able to say that,

568
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 2: So it all.

569
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Speaker 3: Worked out eli.

570
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Speaker 1: Number four on this list is Frank Gifford, who he

571
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 1: was drafted by the Giants in nineteen fifty two. He

572
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: won the MVP in nineteen fifty six and was a

573
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: multifaceted player, running, receiving, played multiple positions. You know, all

574
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: of us grew up watching them on Monday Night Football.

575
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 3: As Frian Gifford halfback.

576
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Speaker 8: I spent twelve wonderful years with the New York Giants,

577
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 8: many of those years.

578
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 3: Winding up in championship games.

579
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 4: Now as fran.

580
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,479
Speaker 7: Gifford sportscaster, I play an entirely different position.

581
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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts when you think about Frank Gifford

582
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: other than the yellow blazer on Monday Night football.

583
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I think that's you know, I think,

584
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 8: just like you said, this is the amount that he

585
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 8: was able to do. He ran, he caught, he threw touchdowns.

586
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 8: I mean, he was kind of that position that it

587
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 8: doesn't really exist anymore in football, like the running back.

588
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 8: Like you don't see running backs throwing it catching. He was,

589
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 8: you know, just a playmaker and just you know, you

590
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 8: kind of I remember him, like you said, from announcing,

591
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 8: and you know, I didn't get to see him play live,

592
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 8: but I got to hear his voice and associate it

593
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 8: with watching football growing up, and so just got to

594
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 8: meet him, you know, several times. Always the big smile

595
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 8: of this, the big personality, always a delight to be around.

596
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,959
Speaker 8: And just you know, when you think of the New

597
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 8: York Giants, he's one of the names that that pops

598
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 8: up just because.

599
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 3: Of just that that time, and and what what.

600
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Speaker 1: A great character and a great player that he was,

601
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: and you think about it, I mean, missus Mara that

602
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: that was her favorite, right with our family. Frank Gifford

603
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: was royalty, right.

604
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 3: I think so.

605
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 8: I think I was just talking with Ernie of Corsi

606
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 8: and he just mentioned that. I think it was well

607
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 8: into Mayor's favorite also, and you can see why. Just

608
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 8: just the the ultimate pro and did everything they asked

609
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 8: and just a wonderful person as well. So he was

610
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 8: kind of mister New York I know during that time.

611
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 8: It would have been a fun time to hang with

612
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 8: him during that.

613
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: When he was at any Giants event, you know, there's

614
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: royalty and then there was that next level. And Frank

615
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: carried himself in that way, but was very approachable to people.

616
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 2: Very down to earth guy.

617
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 3: He was.

618
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 2: He had magnetism about himself that you know, you just

619
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: you can't replicate it. It's not fake and it's all real.

620
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 2: And you know he's Frank Gifford's in the rooms man,

621
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 2: got you know, can I talk to him? And he

622
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 2: was He was very humble man. And you know, you

623
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 2: think about the NFL now, everything is yeared toward offense,

624
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 2: all the rules more offense more and Frank Gifford continues

625
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: to hold the record for most touchdowns by a new

626
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 2: York Giant.

627
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 3: It's it's remarkable.

628
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 2: And he played so long ago and the ELI touched

629
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 2: on it, you know, the running, the throwing, and the catching.

630
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 2: He was just the all around player.

631
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: Gifford was it.

632
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 2: He had the whole package, and he succeeded the golden

633
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 2: boy from Southern cal He and he hits the big

634
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: stage in New York and he wins a championship and

635
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: he and he does these, you know, Hall of Fame

636
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: things over over the length of his career.

637
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: Speaking of Frank Kifford, he's number four. Number five is

638
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: the modern day Frank Kifford, which is your teammate, Michael Strahan.

639
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: He has gone from being not only a Hall of

640
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: Fame football player, but to someone who excelled on TV

641
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,719
Speaker 1: doing football, who has now excelled like Frank Gifford did,

642
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: crossing over to become a true star across America. Did

643
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: you think that he would take it that route.

644
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 8: I'm not surprised that it went that route, just with

645
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 8: Michael's personality and him in the locker room.

646
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 3: He was the guy.

647
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 8: His voice was always carrying through the locker room when

648
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 8: he when he was telling a story or he was

649
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 8: animated about something everybody heard what he was saying.

650
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 7: This is what I was built for.

651
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 6: I would loriball. That's what Linman telling you.

652
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: Don't be physical, don't be time.

653
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 7: He don't be.

654
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 3: Time champion and winner. Believe they will win the game.

655
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 3: We got to do that time and we ain't no

656
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: pun I ain't right, No, ain't right. No. Not surprised.

657
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 8: Also just with his his work ethic, and that's what

658
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 8: was so important for me to see why he was

659
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 8: such a great mentor role model for me coming to

660
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 8: the New York Giants.

661
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 3: This is a guy who brought it every single day,

662
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 3: every single practice.

663
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 8: He was going full speed every you know, in the

664
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 8: weight room, working extremely hard, always there, always a great

665
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,479
Speaker 8: attitude and always encouraging me. Just appreciate him so much.

666
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 8: We're always having my back and kind of setting the

667
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 8: example for how you have to work, how you have

668
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 8: to prepare, how you have to play for the New

669
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 8: York Giants and in the NFL. And he's a great

670
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 8: friend of mine. And get to watch him now on

671
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 8: TV doing all the fun things and he's no one's

672
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 8: working harder than Michael and deserves all the success that

673
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 8: he's having.

674
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: Dan Reeves was the head coach when Michael came and

675
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: Mike Nolan, whose dad coach with the Giants, I mean,

676
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: they moved Michael and he became, along with Reggie White,

677
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: the best two way defensive end in the National Football

678
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: League because, as you know, his ability to play the

679
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: run was as good as anybody.

680
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 6: Yeah.

681
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know that transition happened. You know, he

682
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 2: was more or less a traditional guy coming from from

683
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 2: the right end. And Nolan I was talking to him

684
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: about it long after Michael's career ended. He says, yeah,

685
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: you know when his first year he was having trouble

686
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 2: with the steps right, the steps he just couldn't get

687
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: to just a little off. His footwork was off. So

688
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 2: we put him on the left side, and then all

689
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you know, he was like, he's like

690
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 2: the steps, he's in rhythm and he he's great. And

691
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: so I went to Stray and said, you know, this

692
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: is what Nolan said. He goes, what what is he

693
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 2: talking about? But it really, I mean that that switch

694
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 2: was huge.

695
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: First and Tenny he goes McNabb back to throw steps

696
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: up on the president. He's sucked by Michael Strahan And

697
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: there's the record.

698
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 9: The New York Giants record one hundred and thirty three

699
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 9: and a half and he does it with Lawrence Taylor

700
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 9: in the house.

701
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 2: The other thing about straight hand, I don't know if

702
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: you win that two thousand and seven Super Bowl without

703
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 2: that kind of leadership, and you know, that defense was great.

704
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: You had the game of your life in the Super Bowl,

705
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: but set up in large part because of the defense

706
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: holding holding those Patriots.

707
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 9: You know, Down takes the snap and back to throw

708
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 9: SATs in the pocket and he's sucked by Michael Strahan

709
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 9: back of the thirty two yard Live.

710
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: And and Straighthan's leadership, and there was a little question

711
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 2: whether he was going to come back that season contract wise,

712
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 2: but he came back and it was huge, and he

713
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 2: had the season of a lifetime and he was able

714
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: to do what few others have done is walk off

715
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: into the sunset with the Super Bowl.

716
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 8: And we did want to win for Michael just because

717
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 8: of what he meant to this organization fifteen years. His leadership,

718
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 8: especially on the defensive side, but the whole team, and

719
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 8: he gathered everybody together and he used to walk around

720
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 8: the locker room before every game just you know, shook

721
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 8: everybody's hand, had a message for him, had a friendship,

722
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 8: had a relationship with every player, and we definitely wanted

723
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 8: to win that one for him, get him his championship.

724
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 11: Life is about improbability, and my life is improbable. I

725
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 11: am an absolutely improbable Hall of Famer. I am with

726
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 11: a late bloomer as a football player. You know, I

727
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 11: didn't play in high school. Play one year high school.

728
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 11: I was the late bloomer. But the improbable happened. I

729
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 11: get drafted by the New York freaking Giants. And not

730
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 11: only by the Giant, but I get drafted by Wellington Merra,

731
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 11: the Duke, Bob Tisch, the Tisch family, and the great

732
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 11: George Young. Those are the guys who brought me and

733
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 11: trusted me enough to bring me to the Giants. In

734
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 11: the spirit of that their kids, John Merra and Steve

735
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 11: Tish have continued and that spirit of realizing that the

736
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 11: team is a family now. I used to go into

737
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 11: the locker room before every game and I would go

738
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 11: and tap and touch and scan five to five and

739
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 11: pep talk every player, equipment, guy, coach. The reason I

740
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 11: did it was because each time I touch each guy,

741
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 11: I'm accountable to you what I put out there on

742
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 11: that field today is not for me, It's for you.

743
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 11: You will never be disappointed in me. This is about family,

744
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 11: This is about teammates. This is about everybody pitching in

745
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 11: to make you better and for you, hopefully to make

746
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 11: them better.

747
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 6: And for what the game of football has done for me.

748
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 11: I am eternally grateful to this game, and I'm so

749
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 11: glad that I am a representative of the twenty and

750
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 11: fourteen NFL Hall of Fame.

751
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 6: Tonight, Michael Straham, it is my great privilege on behalf

752
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 6: of the other two hundred days having Hall of Famers,

753
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 6: to present you with this rate as one of the

754
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 6: great players in the history of the game.

755
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 1: You talk about threads, right, he was there with Lawrence's

756
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: last year and some of those guys. He played with

757
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: the Keith Hamiltons of the world and got to a

758
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: Super Bowl in two thousand and then you kind of

759
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: horrd you think about some of the threads with you.

760
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: We talked about Sam Huff, But for instance, at number

761
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: ten on the list is Andy Robistelli, who was the

762
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 1: president the Giants didn't have a GM at the time.

763
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: He was the president of football operations and he was

764
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: there when you got drafted, so you had a chance

765
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: to be around more giant royalty and those connections from

766
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: the past to which eventually led to your team. What

767
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 1: was it like to be around another great defensive person

768
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: that was in the building and on the property.

769
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 5: You know, there are names that kind of resonate with

770
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 5: you that you always remember. Robastally is one of those

771
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 5: names that you always sort of remember. And that was

772
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 5: before I even was drafted to play with the Giants.

773
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 5: Here's a personality that I used to watch on television

774
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 5: or I would listen to on the radio or whatever,

775
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 5: and I hear his name and I always equated his

776
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 5: name with the New York Football Giants.

777
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 2: You know, Bobby Roba still is a player, was like amazing,

778
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 2: you know, he he you know, I did see him

779
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 2: a little bit as a kid and him thinking, you know, big,

780
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 2: big guy, but he was not. You know, he was

781
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 2: six one two twenty right, six one two twenty as

782
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: the defensive end yet but he was very quick. He

783
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 2: was very skilled in terms of technique, and he would

784
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 2: he would just dominate people. He you know, he had

785
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: a good outside move and and he got after the quarterback.

786
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 2: So he was really one of the great pass rushing

787
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,439
Speaker 2: defensive ends of his time.

788
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a lot of Tom Landry as the

789
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: defensive coach at that time and kind of using analytics

790
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: ahead of the time. He was the one that figured

791
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: out the probabilities and studying the tape on how to

792
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 1: stop Jim Brown, which is why they developed that umbrella defense.

793
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: Robistelli won a title with the Rams in fifty one,

794
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: then came to the Giants and obviously they had that

795
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: great run of fifty six, then fifty eight, sixty sixty one,

796
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: sixty two, sixty three, losing the championship games. But he

797
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: was you know, back then the Giants defense was announced.

798
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: It's my mom till this day can rattle off the

799
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty six Giants starting defense name and number. The

800
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: chant of defense didn't start at Nick games. It started

801
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: with Giants games and the Giant defense was introduced.

802
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 3: To the audience.

803
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: Oh that's like, that's how big it was. Neither of

804
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: these guys, none of us had any connection with Melhein.

805
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: So Melhine has come in at number three on this list.

806
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: That's when they played sixty minutes. So he played center,

807
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: he played backer, and he went to eight straight Pro Bowls.

808
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: You know, the inaugural Hall of Fame class. But one

809
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: of these players that over the course of time, I

810
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: give the voters a lot of credit for not being

811
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: aged biased and realizing what this man meant to the

812
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: early years of the NFL.

813
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: Well, when you think about Melhine, and you know, I

814
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 2: had the benefit of having talked to like Wellington, Mara

815
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 2: Welling about Melhein. You know, he saw him and he

816
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: knew what he was all about, and so you have

817
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 2: you have that connection to history. But you just look

818
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 2: at it like I believe it was six straight All Pros,

819
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: first Team All Pro, all those Pro Bowls.

820
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 3: Playing two ways.

821
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 2: You know, Melhine was the first offensive lineman to be

822
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: named MVP in the NFL in nineteen thirty eight, and

823
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 2: he's the last last.

824
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: I was like, is this true?

825
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:53,479
Speaker 3: Yes, it's true.

826
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: And he was just so dominant at his position, and

827
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 2: you know, later in his career he was already to

828
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 2: retire in like the early forties, and he became a

829
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 2: coach at Upstate New York School Upstate New York and

830
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: during the war they had to stop the program and

831
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 2: on weekends he would come down and still play for

832
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 2: the Giants. He played three more years, like you know,

833
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 2: living part time in the area. But he was that

834
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: good and they were willing to do whatever to keep him.

835
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: I want to ask you now, he stopped coaching as

836
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: an assistant before you got there. But really, one of

837
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 1: the greatest stories in the history of the National Football

838
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: League is mister offense on defense, Emlyn Tannell, who in

839
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: this list comes in at number six. Emlyn Tanell took

840
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: a bus from Philly to the Giants' offices and asked

841
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: for a tryout. And as original owner Timarra said, if

842
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: he's going to take that much of an effort to

843
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: bust up and come now, we should at least give.

844
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 3: Him a tryout.

845
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: This is one of the most dominant player on the

846
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. One season, his interception return

847
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: yardage and his punt return yardage was more yardage than

848
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: the leading rusher in the NFL.

849
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 13: Drops into the waiting arms of Eblen Tonal and he

850
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 13: does what the New York fans have been halping Parr

851
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 13: all afternoon, adding another brilliant run back to his record

852
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 13: and a touchdown to the New York side of the scoreboard.

853
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: Still holds a giant record for intercept seven and there

854
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 1: in that time.

855
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 8: And they didn't throw that much he was it felt

856
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 8: like he was, you know, for the amount of throws

857
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 8: to interceptions.

858
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 3: It's it's unbelievable.

859
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 2: He has the second highest number of interceptions in NFL history.

860
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable, right, seventy nine and Paul Krauss had eighty one.

861
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: I think Dean Sanders had fifty four. Fifty four, so

862
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 2: Emlyncenel was se twenty five more than Dion Sanders. He

863
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: was a great player, very unassuming player, you know, very

864
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 2: humble guy, but dominant.

865
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: Second most interceptions in the history of the NFL Giants

866
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: franchise leader in an era when they played twelve games.

867
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they eat that.

868
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 2: And he was a Coastguard hero during during the war.

869
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 2: There's a ship, there's a ship commission in his name,

870
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 2: the ss M Lintonelle. That's that's pretty remarkable.

871
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 5: It wasn't until I came to the Giants that I

872
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 5: realized that he was the first black player to be

873
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 5: signed by the Giants nineteen forty seven and something.

874
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 4: Like forty eight whatever.

875
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was the first man of color to be

876
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame as well.

877
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: Pretty incredible stuff with Mlntenella, isn't it. Let's go to

878
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: the man who was voted number one, I think when

879
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: you or no, let's go to number two first, Josevel Brown, Okay,

880
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: because maybe the best left tackle in the history of

881
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: the sport. Yeah, he was a twenty seventh round pick,

882
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: you know, the old seven seven, but an absolute dominant

883
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: player that you know was around during your playing days.

884
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: You know you could see those tree trunk legs. What

885
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: were your reminiscing of Roosevelt Brown when you think about him?

886
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 4: You know he had that voice.

887
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 5: If you've been around him, you saw the knees and

888
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 5: his fingers were all mangled and everything. But he was

889
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 5: there and he gave me and all the other players

890
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 5: who needed a kicking in the rear, in or whatever.

891
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 4: He gave us advice that stuck with us.

892
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 5: To be on any kind of list with Rosie Brown,

893
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 5: that really is special for me and should be for

894
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 5: everybody else on that list, because he's number two, and

895
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 5: it's well deserved.

896
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 4: He's number two.

897
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 5: And how many offensive linemen would be like number two?

898
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 5: It would be maybe a quarterback.

899
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 3: I would vote, I'd vote for him. I'd like to

900
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 3: have a.

901
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:58,479
Speaker 5: Quarterback, running back or whatever. But this is a left

902
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 5: tackle who went to a small black school Morgan State.

903
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: For our younger fans, now, when we did the great

904
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: plays and fans could vote on it, uh, there's the

905
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: one play where he blocks like three guys at once

906
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: as one of the top plays in the history of

907
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: the Giants. Would you say, for the younger people watching

908
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: right now, to give them a frame of reference, would

909
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: you maybe have Jonathan Ogden as the current day visual

910
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 1: or the modern day visual of what Roosevelt Brown.

911
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ogden was probably a little bit bigger, you know, bulkier,

912
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 2: you know, but but similar in terms of talent and

913
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: just just he put him out there down.

914
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 3: Let's take a guy blocked out of the games? Done

915
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 3: you guys?

916
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 2: You know what was remarkable And Harry mentions the HBCU factor.

917
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: Back back then, scouting was just very rudimentary. You don't

918
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 2: don't have what it was that there was a writer

919
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh, Bill Nunn junior. He was the sports editor

920
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: of the Pittsburgh Courier, black paper in Pittsburgh, and he

921
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 2: had an all star team that he compiled each year

922
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 2: for each BCU players, and Rosie Brown was on there,

923
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 2: and the Giants saw it and you know, took took

924
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 2: a chance on him in the twenty seventh round, right,

925
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:19,240
Speaker 2: But that All Star Team was a really important tool

926
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: that owners used because eventually, you know, once integration reintegration

927
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 2: happened forty six, there still were not a lot of

928
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,919
Speaker 2: black players in the NFL. But that All Star Team

929
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 2: was was important and the Giants used it, and kind

930
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 2: of that's how they learned about him, really, because there

931
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: was no this was not TV and that kind of thing.

932
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 2: So just kind of a remarkable way that he got here,

933
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 2: but he still had to earn it that first year,

934
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 2: and he did. He was plugged in right away as

935
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: a starting left tackle and never left.

936
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: All right, So let's go to number one. I'll start

937
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: with you, Eli, Lawrence Teller. I mean, you've seen him

938
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: around a little bit over the years, but I mean

939
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: you're of the age where you had a chance to

940
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: watch him play on TV. I mean, can you imagine

941
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: having to go against him?

942
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 3: No, I'm glad I did not have to go against him.

943
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 8: I've seen seen you know, watch them live, watch them,

944
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 8: you know, playing Super Bowls, and grew up as an

945
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 8: NFL fan. I mean, he he was the guy, and

946
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 8: he was exciting and electric. And I've seen the hits

947
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 8: that he's put on some of these quarterbacks and it

948
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 8: hurts me to watch it, you know, playing with them

949
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 8: in video games and Techno Bowl, and.

950
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 3: He you know, he was unblockable and so he was.

951
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 3: He was the guy.

952
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 8: As a kid, like if you were playing defense, you

953
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 8: wanted to be Lawrence Taylor. And uh, just you know,

954
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 8: you know, you hear coaches, you hear Coach Belichick talk

955
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 8: about him and what a tremendous player and just right

956
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 8: and right when he got here his rookie year, he

957
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 8: was the best player. And so just uh, I'm glad,

958
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 8: glad I never got the go against them. I probably

959
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 8: would have not been to play sixteen years if I

960
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 8: had to play, you know, face against him twice.

961
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 3: A year during that stretch.

962
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 8: But a part of those great teams with Harry Carson

963
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 8: and that that defense was a scary defense.

964
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 3: Y'all had Harry.

965
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: What were your thoughts when he walked in the door

966
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: they won as a rookie.

967
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 4: We didn't want him.

968
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 5: We didn't want him because during that during that time,

969
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 5: you know, the Giants had the second pick in the

970
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 5: draft and we felt.

971
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 3: You know.

972
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 5: It was Brad Vanpelt, Brian Kelly and myself. We thought

973
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 5: that we needed offensive, you know, fireworks because.

974
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:42,479
Speaker 4: We felt like we were sold.

975
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 5: I mean, we were already good, you know, And they

976
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 5: used that second pick for Lawrence Taylor. First day of practice,

977
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 5: we're out on the field and we're going through drills.

978
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 5: I went and I did whatever you know, I needed

979
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 5: to do, came back, sat on my helmet, and I'm like,

980
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 5: Lawrence was next, and I was like, Okay, let me

981
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 5: see what this guy has. And ball snaps. He runs

982
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 5: in and he puts on some move that I'd never

983
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 5: seen before, and he was he was improvising. I mean,

984
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 5: it wasn't anything that he he was improvising. And I

985
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 5: thought to myself when he beat that blocker so thoroughly,

986
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 5: I thought to myself, Damn, he's good.

987
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 8: You know.

988
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 5: He had kind of skinny looking legs and everything, but

989
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 5: he was good and he was able to hold his

990
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 5: own from that from that time on. The Other thing

991
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 5: is I'm glad that he had coaches who could utilize

992
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 5: him in the right manner, be.

993
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 2: More aggressive on that special Now they'll come back with that,

994
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 2: you know, that slant counter.

995
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 5: Some other team may have drafted him and he would

996
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 5: have been an outside linebacker. But because of Bill Parcells

997
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 5: and the way that he wanted his defense to play.

998
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: Maybe it's going here like a bunch of crazy dogs.

999
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 3: That's fun.

1000
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 5: They saw what they were capable of doing with a

1001
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 5: Lawrence Taylor.

1002
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 4: He was special. He was unique. He had speed. He

1003
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 4: was our guy, you know, and it was special. He

1004
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 4: was a bad ass.

1005
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 5: He was a badass and everything that people say about

1006
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 5: him now it's true. I mean, he was a great player.

1007
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: He was pretty amazing too. You pointed this out to

1008
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: me once in the facility. I remember you said, look

1009
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: at everybody pre snap. He's the only one that's flat footed.

1010
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 1: But he gets there first. His timing is instinct, and

1011
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: then his pure athleticism is It's like unparalleled, isn't it.

1012
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 5: He was born to be and outside rushing, the things

1013
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 5: that he did, you can't draw those things up. It

1014
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 5: all came from playing the game. And you know, people

1015
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 5: look at Lawrence. Lawrence was one of the smartest players

1016
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 5: I've ever been around. I mean, his intellect football intellect

1017
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 5: was off the charts. We would be in meetings and

1018
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 5: Bill Belichick was our defensive coordinator and we'd be in

1019
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 5: the meeting room and he would be at the board

1020
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 5: trying to, you know, put down a new play or whatever.

1021
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 5: And Lawrence would be at the front of the room

1022
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 5: laying on the floor, halfway asleep, and Lawrence would tell

1023
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 5: Bill that's not gonna work. Bill, that's not gonna work.

1024
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 5: I can see it from here, even though I'm half asleep.

1025
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 5: You know, this is not gonna work.

1026
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 3: You know.

1027
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 5: Bill would challenge him and he would get up at

1028
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 5: you know, on the board, and he would write down

1029
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,439
Speaker 5: what he was doing and why it might not work.

1030
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 4: So it wasn't you know.

1031
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 5: People look at football and they think it's all physical.

1032
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 5: Football is so much mental. I mean, you have to

1033
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 5: really have it here to play this game, to be

1034
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 5: able to do the things that he did on the field.

1035
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 5: That is the thing that sticks out. He showed up

1036
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 5: every game. He showed up ready to play.

1037
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever seen a more relentless player,

1038
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 2: too than the Horns.

1039
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 3: I mean, just.

1040
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 2: Always new the situation, always gave maximum effort. There was

1041
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 2: a game in New Orleans where he separated his shoulder

1042
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 2: and was fitted with the harness, continued to play, brought

1043
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 2: the quarterback down from behind on a huge play. It

1044
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 2: was just you don't see things like that in today's game.

1045
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 2: But he he was just a warrior and and his

1046
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 2: will was I think second to none.

1047
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 5: Let me remind you, I did not play in that game.

1048
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 5: He played my position in that game, and he was

1049
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 5: really good.

1050
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 4: I was I was a little jealous.

1051
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 5: I'm like, they don't need me this guy, And it

1052
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 5: was such an honor to play with a guy of

1053
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 5: that magnitude athletic ability.

1054
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 7: Ury he might go all the way, he gonna go

1055
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 7: in I'm gone, you're ready, And so.

1056
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 5: When I hear people say that he's the goat, I'm

1057
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 5: very proud of the fact that he was a Giant

1058
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 5: and he loved being a Giant, and he would have

1059
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 5: been at the top of every team's list if they're

1060
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 5: going through the same thing that the Giants are going

1061
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 5: through now with the one hundred anniversary, it's piece of cake.

1062
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 11: Without you, guys, there wouldn't have been a Lawrence Taylor,

1063
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,479
Speaker 11: but there wouldn't have been an LT.

1064
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 6: Thank you very much.

1065
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: Two Captains Super Bowl Champions, Eli Manning number eight on

1066
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: this final list. Harry Carson, Hall of Famer, number seven

1067
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: on this list Walter Payton Man of the Year Award

1068
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: winner as well. We want to thank you guys so

1069
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 1: much for sharing some of these stories with us as

1070
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: we celebrate the Top one hundred players. Eli, thank you, Harry,

1071
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Thank you, and Bob really appreciate

1072
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: you being part of this entire process with the Blue

1073
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: Ribbon panel. The fact that you have the past honored

1074
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: in these top ten really speaks to the depth of

1075
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: understanding of this panel, and I appreciate all of your

1076
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 1: efforts and the rest of.

1077
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 3: The corner to do it.

1078
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 1: So fans, we continue the celebration of one hundred seasons

1079
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 1: of Giants Football for Bob Glauber, Eli Manning, Harry Carson,

1080
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: I'm Bob Papa. Thanks for joining us for Giants' Top

1081
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 1: one hundred Players, presented by bud Light