1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: From Mediators World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This is 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Cal's weekend review, presented by Steel. Steel products are available 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: only at authorized dealers. For more, go to Steel Dealers 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: dot com. Now here's your host, Ryan cal Callahan. 5 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: Police evacuating a New Jersey neighborhood following a gas explosion 6 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: last week made an unexpected discovery in one of the 7 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 2: homes a six point whitetail buck being kept in a 8 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 2: dog cage. You can imagine that this is not what 9 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 2: the officers wanted to deal with during a gas leak, 10 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: but probably better than some of the other things they 11 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: could have found in a cage in New Jersey. Well 12 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: bring out the gimp. But despite the looming danger, they 13 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: called an environmental conservation officer to help get the deer 14 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: out of the house. The deer was successfully removed and 15 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: the homeowner was interviewed. The homeowner said the deer had 16 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: been injured and they'd been taking care of it, but 17 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: the animal had since recovered and they just decided to 18 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: keep it as a pet. Here's PSA to all the 19 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: well intentioned but ill informed folks out there. It's illegal 20 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 2: in every state to keep wildlife as a pet. Yeah, 21 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: there's kind of an asterisk there for like the game 22 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: farm things and how those animals are treated, which can 23 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: be very pet like. But anyway, if you think an 24 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: animal might be hurt, give your wildlife agency a call. 25 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: If they think it's necessary, they'll dispatch a professional who 26 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: will handle the situation that's the best for the animal 27 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: and for you. You're not snow white. Wild animals can't 28 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: be domesticated like livestock or dogs and kiddies can. Those 29 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: animals have had thousands of years of domestication bred into them, 30 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: even if they don't act like it all the time. 31 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: If you care at all about the upholstery on your couch, 32 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: the state of your carpet, or your human neighbors, don't 33 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: try to rehabilitate woodland creatures. Caging wild animal could also 34 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: send you to the kind of cage made for people. 35 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: In this case, the would be deer whisper. We'll be 36 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: facing charges from the New York Department of Environmental Conservation. 37 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: Thanks to listener Eric Streil for sending us that story. 38 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 2: This week, we've got urban animals, wildlife crime, and killing contests. 39 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: But first I'm going to tell you about my week. 40 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 2: In my week Oh wow, Where to start? So, as 41 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: you know, I took a couple of days to attempt 42 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: to kill bluefin tuna with a spear, this time with 43 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: the buddy mine, Greg Fontz. Greg and I dove together 44 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: with our buddy Paul a few years ago. If you 45 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: guys watched the Cow in the Field episode on the 46 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 2: Mediator YouTube channel about Striper's and salmon, Paul and Greg, 47 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 2: we're both in that episode and awesome people, super fun 48 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: to be around, super pro. But to wrap up this adventure, 49 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: make it as short and sweet as I can, it 50 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: did not go well in my land base vernacular outfitted 51 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: which before you lose your shirts. I've worked for many 52 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: outfitters over the years, and I'll tell you that even 53 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: the most well intentioned and hard working outfitters or in 54 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: this case, captains, can still have shit weeks. Sometimes all 55 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: the working knowledge gained through years of experience, still you 56 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 2: know the sea or the elk, or the forest, or 57 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: the conditions conspire against you, and despite all of that knowledge, 58 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: things just keep going wrong. I'm not sure that's what 59 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: happened during our week. In fact, i'd leaned towards the 60 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 2: fact that this crew we attempted to fish with just 61 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: had other shit going on, and the people paying for 62 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: everything were not the priority, which led to a bunch 63 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: of mishaps, a ton of lost time both on the 64 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: water and off the water. As you know, I mean, 65 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: it's September, right, There's a million other places a bunch 66 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: of outdoor folks could be in September, but we chose 67 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: to spend her time and money there. We did gain 68 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: some time, however, but just with the California Department of 69 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: Fishing and Wildlife, who were super pro It was a 70 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: true cluster of a trip, and really none of it 71 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: on the part of the clients, of which I was 72 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: one of three, or you know, or four of us 73 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: total awesome folks. Big shout out to firefighters in California. 74 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: Every dude on the trip other than myself was a 75 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 2: city fire person and got to meet a bunch of 76 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 2: those folks on the tail end and literally the tail end. 77 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: But that's a story for another time. Anyway, awesome folks, 78 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: super cool and you folks who live in NorCal you 79 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 2: got some super good dudes looking out for you, so 80 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: feel good about that. I'll tell you this, if a 81 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: destination trip booked through a reputable captain or outfitter can 82 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 2: go south on me, it can go south on you two. 83 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: And it's a tricky situation. Our failure as a group 84 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: was kind of giving too much space or credit to 85 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: this very reputable captain. Once things started going south, once 86 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 2: it was like noticeable that the level of pro just 87 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: was not there. Once that was like very noticeable. We 88 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 2: could have, in hindsight and should have been a lot 89 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 2: more upfront with stating the obvious. You know, this isn't working, 90 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: so let's pivot to something that has a higher rate 91 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: of success. And success at this point would just be 92 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 2: like being in the water enjoying ourselves. But you know, 93 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: I mean that's hindsight for you. These situations may look 94 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: plain as day from the outside looking in, but they're 95 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 2: pretty murky when you're on the inside. A huge part 96 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 2: of what you pay for on a guided trip is 97 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 2: the local knowledge and the expertise. Man, when you travel, 98 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: you can't, you know, bring your in my case, Montana 99 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: to the ocean right. The timeline of waking up and 100 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 2: hunting elk in September in Montana is not necessarily the 101 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 2: same timeline as waking up and hunting tuna in San diego. 102 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: You need to be able to go with the flow 103 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: and have some trust that they know what's going on. 104 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: And that is a lot easier with straightforward conversations which 105 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 2: ideally are prompted by the professional guides and outfitters or 106 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 2: captains and mates that you are paying, right, and if 107 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: they do not prompt those conversations, you need to do it. 108 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: It's really simple. It's not a confrontational thing. I mean, 109 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: it's business as usual and they do it every single week. 110 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 2: But you just got to be prepared for that stuff. 111 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: You know, speaking to somebody who made my living as 112 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: a guide for a lot of years growing up, it 113 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 2: was never a negative thing to get like a bunch 114 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 2: of questions or often as not, it was like, hey, 115 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 2: when I booked this trip, they said it was going 116 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 2: to be this way most of the time, very reasonable 117 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 2: explanation as to why it is not that way, right, 118 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 2: Like yeah, that trip or you know that sales pitch 119 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: that you got is like when X, Y and Z happened, 120 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: but today or this week, A, B and C are 121 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: happening right like forest fires, crazy wins. You know, just 122 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: elk aren't here yet, you know whatever, and you got 123 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: to pivot and you just got to make it clear 124 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: that pivoting is what you do right. It's wildlife and 125 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: wild places, and you adjust and carry on and it'll 126 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: be super fun. I do want to throw this out 127 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: at you. I'm not using the captain's name or business 128 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 2: name for a reason. I really don't think this dude 129 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 2: is a bad person. I don't think he runs a 130 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: bad business per usual. I just think we caught up 131 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: to him at the end of a very long season 132 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 2: and things hadn't been pro a little bit, and the 133 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 2: end is near as far as the season end is near, 134 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: and you know it's a taxing job, and we just 135 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:14,239 Speaker 2: got bit by sloppiness at the end. So confident that 136 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 2: this this dude will get back on his feet and 137 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: get back to being pro. So anyway, when I got 138 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: home from my bust to tunea trip, I decided to 139 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: save the weekend by going bird hunting, where I promptly 140 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: lost my phone. Got out of Bozeman real eight, ran 141 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 2: right into stop and go traffic, some wrack up on 142 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: nine ninety, ended up pulling off on the side of 143 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 2: the county road and going to bed at about midnight. 144 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: Woke up the next day, I went on a nice 145 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 2: long walk. Thought for sure we'd find birds right out 146 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 2: of the gate, but that was not the case. But 147 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: I did, like I say, lose my phone, and damn 148 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 2: you on X for making me so reliable on that sweet, 149 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 2: sweet mapping software. I love going new places, places where 150 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 2: I haven't been, and man, what a bummer to have 151 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 2: the confidence of going to those places because all the 152 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: info you need is right on your phone. All you 153 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 2: got to do is like download the map ahead of time. 154 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: And yeah, I just didn't have it. And I'm not 155 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 2: a guy who looks at the weather because I'm just 156 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 2: going to go anyway. Tempts were hitting ninety degrees, so 157 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: it was way too hot to run the dog during 158 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 2: the day anyway, So I pivoted, as you do, and 159 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: I headed to my mommy's. She's got a big old 160 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 2: shop where I could do some wrenching on the old 161 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: black series camper. I blew the hot water heater out, 162 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 2: which I'm sure I told you guys last winter. But 163 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 2: I had got a replacement water heater which I've had 164 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 2: like partially installed for a little bit, and I just 165 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: needed to kind of do the wiring and get her 166 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 2: all plugged in and test it out, and so I 167 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: was able to back it into the shop, had all 168 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 2: the tools, got everything done, didn't have to sweat like crazy, 169 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 2: and once I pumped water through the system, I found 170 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 2: out that the new replacement, brand spanking new chunk of 171 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: copper instant hot water coil from Fugati came pre installed 172 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 2: with a pinhole leak in the copperwatercoil. Uh, she's just 173 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: really kicking a guy when he's down. So if you 174 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: have an ace in the whole way of patching, a 175 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 2: pinhole leak on a copper line that cannot be wrapped, 176 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 2: and when that copper line is operational, it's hot and 177 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 2: under pressure. Right in to ask cl at the meat 178 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: eater dot Com. 179 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: Were the Morio Brothers and Plumbings again or not? 180 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 2: Let the others get all the fame. 181 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: You could call us on the Doubles professter than the others. 182 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 2: You'll on the brothers moving on to the Urban Animal's desk. 183 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: Snitches get stitches, as they say, and some British Columbia 184 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 2: residents are applying that mob logic to their town's black 185 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 2: bear problem. Black bears are being spotted all across the 186 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 2: town of Prince George or PG, and conservation officers are 187 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: struggling to keep up. The CBC reports that there were 188 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 2: two two hundred and forty one complaints about bears in 189 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 2: the month of August, and thirty six bears have been 190 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 2: put down. That's a market rise from last August, when 191 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 2: zero bears were killed in the city. Residents report that 192 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: they see bears in their yards almost every day, and 193 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 2: bears are regularly spotted in the middle of town. They're 194 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 2: fattening up for winter and are attracted to the usual 195 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: suspects of trash, unpicked apples, pet food, and dirty barbecues. 196 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 2: The public is supposed to report all aggressive bears, but 197 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: some residents are refusing. One woman told the CBC that 198 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 2: she's effectively adopted a no snitching policy. I don't fault 199 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 2: people for calling conservation officers, she said, but I've never 200 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 2: called the conservation officer, and I have difficulty imagining a 201 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: situation in which I would, rather than calling, to ask 202 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 2: the bears to be put down or removed. She and 203 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 2: her neighbors warn each other when pets and children need 204 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 2: to be brought inside. In my neighborhood, we don't say 205 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 2: hi to each other anymore. We just say, did you 206 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 2: see the bear in the driveway around the corner. Wildlife 207 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 2: professionals should be made aware of aggressive bears, but this 208 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 2: no snitching policy is having some positive effects. The CBC 209 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: reports that other towns have Facebook groups in which people 210 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 2: are called out for bad bear behavior, things like leaving 211 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 2: trash cans unlocked or leaving out pet food. Their hope 212 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 2: is that rather than rely on conservation officers to come 213 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: in and deal with the problem, people will change their 214 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 2: behavior so that bears aren't attracted to towns and cities in 215 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 2: the first place. Big thanks to listener Jeff Graham and 216 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 2: his sons for sending us that story. Good luck to 217 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 2: Alex as he starts a guy in moose hunts and 218 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 2: BC tons of fun up there. And I just got 219 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 2: to say, this social consciousness that's going on up there, 220 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 2: you know where it's not the conservation officer's fault for 221 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 2: not keeping track of their bears, but it's actually the 222 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 2: people in the neighborhood's fault for leaving attractants out. My god, 223 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 2: it's like we've entered into a new era. Send those 224 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 2: Facebook group invites down to all the neighborhoods down here 225 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: in the Lower forty eight police speaking of Moose and 226 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 2: staying in Canada. A moose that wandered into a Calgary 227 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 2: neighborhood this month died because of the crowds of people 228 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: trying to get a good picture of it. Thanks to 229 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 2: listener Jeffrey Chang for sending us that story. Alberta Fishing 230 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 2: Wildlife Enforcement Services said in a statement that the adult 231 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 2: cow moose was reportedly breaking through fences and trying to 232 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 2: jump a six foot concrete retaining wall. One police officer 233 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: told the CBC that even though law enforcement tried to 234 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 2: keep the crowds away, people were climbing fences, sneaking around trees, 235 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 2: and crawling through bushes to get the perfect photo. The 236 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: moose eventually bedded down between two houses and wildlife officials 237 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 2: and police corned off the area to give the animal 238 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 2: space to rest, but when they tried to move the 239 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: moose after a few hours, it died from something called 240 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: capture myopathy. Capture myopathy is a fatal condition that causes 241 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 2: serious m damage resulting from extreme exertion, struggle, or stress. 242 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 2: In this case, the stress came not from the wildlife biologists, 243 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: but from Calgarians hoping to snap a photo for the gram. 244 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 2: If you ever see a wild animal wandering through a city, 245 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: you know, just leave it alone. You guys have seen 246 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 2: coyotes in that town. I sure have tweet out that 247 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: social responsibility and your you know, your media followers will 248 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: forgive you. Moving on to the crime desk, a Washington 249 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: man is facing up to a decade in prison for 250 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 2: unlawfully hunting bears, elk, and deer in twenty twenty one 251 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 2: and twenty twenty two, and he might still be poaching 252 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 2: animals if not for his penchant to brag about his 253 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 2: kills on social media. Jason Smith of North Bend, Washington 254 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: is facing two felonies, twenty seven gross misdemeanors, and three 255 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 2: misdemeanors for his alleged crimes. We don't have time on 256 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 2: this thirty minute podcast to cover each of these charges, 257 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: but I'll hit the highlights. One of Smith's hunting strategies 258 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: was to set out a pile of apples near his 259 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: house and try to shoot the bears that came sniffing around. 260 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: It is illegal to bait bears in Washington, but that 261 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 2: didn't stop Smith from snapping a photo of a bear 262 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 2: eating from that pile of apples or bait as you'd 263 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: call it. On September twenty ninth, twenty twenty one, he 264 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 2: took that photo at eleven PM, and then the next 265 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: morning took another photo of a dead bear located about 266 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 2: thirty eight but yards from his bait pile. He posted 267 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 2: a photo on Instagram of himself with that bear, along 268 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: with what may be the most hilarious caption of all 269 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 2: time quote, I wanted this bear bad, especially after my 270 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 2: failed attempt a week prior. Persistence in the mountains pays. 271 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: If you quit, the hunt is over. I love that 272 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 2: there are no participation trophies in the mountains. You get 273 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: what you earn, nothing more, nothing less end quote. Smith 274 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 2: is right about one thing. He'll get what he earns 275 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 2: if he's found guilty. At least we all hope so. 276 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: Another of Smith's brilliant strategies appeared to be purchasing tags 277 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: only after killing the animals. On October twenty ninth, twenty 278 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 2: twenty one, Smith posted a photo of a dead buck 279 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 2: on Instagram. He also texted four people quote big buck down, 280 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: and the first of those tags went out at nine 281 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 2: to twenty nine am, but records showed that he did 282 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: not purchase a deer tag until nine thirty nine am, 283 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 2: or at least ten minutes after he killed the deer. 284 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: In addition to illegally baiting animals and hunting without proper tag, 285 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 2: Smith is being charged with hunting during close seasons, hunting 286 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: over the bag limit, failing to submit bare premolars which 287 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 2: her teeth, retrieving animals from private property without permission, and 288 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: wasting wildlife. For all the details, check out the article 289 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 2: at themeateater dot com. Moving across the pond to Jolliola, England, 290 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: would be angler has been sentenced to two hundred hours 291 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 2: of community service for threatening, among other things, to put 292 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: a donkey head in the bed of a local landowner. 293 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: That's a Godfather reference for all of you kids out there. 294 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 2: Race horses and donkeys are interchangeable. Thirty six year old 295 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 2: Paul Darlington, which you know can't be an easy name 296 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 2: to have in prison, had trespassed on the property of 297 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 2: Thomas Canning to try to steal trout from Canning's pond. 298 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: Canning called the police when he spotted Darlington, but that 299 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: situation escalated when the two men confronted one another. Darlington 300 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 2: had been previously convicted of assault and something called antisocial behavior, 301 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 2: which is totally unsurprising given what happened next. Darlington told 302 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 2: Canning that he knew the layout of the farm and 303 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 2: would come back and kill his children. We know that 304 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 2: you have got donkeys. We will come back in the 305 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 2: night and kill them. Have you ever woken up with 306 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 2: the donkey's head in your bed? Darlington was arrested without 307 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: following through on any of his threats, and he eventually 308 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 2: pled guilty in exchange for many of his charges to 309 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 2: be dropped. Along with his community service, he was forced 310 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: to pay three hundred pounds in fines, which equals about 311 00:17:55,080 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: three hundred and seventy five dollars. Speaking of antisocial behavior, 312 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: to Connecticut teams were charged recently with maiming and possibly 313 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 2: killing an egret at Ocean Beach. The two eighteen year 314 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 2: olds were reported to police after they were spotted throwing 315 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 2: rocks at the bird and then tackling it and holding 316 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 2: it by the neck. A good smaritan at the scene 317 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 2: chased away the hooligans and supplied the police with photos 318 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,959 Speaker 2: of the men, which led to their arrest. Benjamin M. 319 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 2: Pavano and Parker Wallace were charged with Class D cruelty 320 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 2: to animals, which is a felony and released on a 321 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 2: five thousand dollars bond. Their cases are still working their 322 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 2: way through the Connecticut courts. Both the great egret and 323 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 2: snowy egret are listed as threatened species by the state 324 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 2: Department of Energy and Environmental Protection and protected under the 325 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 2: Federal Migratory Bird Treaty Act. No word yet on whether 326 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 2: the pair will face federal charges. Boy, all that, and 327 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 2: they didn't even threaten to kill anybody's kids. Your chop 328 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: off donkey heads getting soft over there in Ocean Beach. 329 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 2: Three South Carolina man are facing federal wildlife charges for 330 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 2: bringing a CWD positive deerhead from Kansas to the Palm 331 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 2: Meadow State. Caldwell Seymour faces two federal counts of unlawfully 332 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 2: transporting wildlife, while Sean Pashaw and Justin Lamaster each face one. 333 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 2: If convicted, the men face up to five years in prison. 334 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 2: If a hunter takes a deer or elkin estate where 335 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 2: CWD has been detected, South Carolina law prohibits them from 336 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 2: importing whole carcasses or parts that contain nervous system tissue. 337 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: Hunters can bring back meat as long as the spinal 338 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 2: column is not attached, and they can bring back skulls 339 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 2: as long as they have been cleaned. But these men 340 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 2: allegedly brought infected parts back to South Carolina because it 341 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 2: was cheaper to process those parts in South Carolina than Kansas. 342 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 2: Breaking a state wildlife law and then transporting that animal 343 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 2: across state lines constitutes a federal offense under the Lacy Act, 344 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 2: which is why the penalties are so serious. One of 345 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 2: the men's lawyers told South Carolina media that they didn't 346 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: know about the rules against importing deer from CWD states. 347 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 2: It's unclear how wildlife officials found out about the violation, 348 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 2: but the South Carolina Department of Natural Resources says that 349 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 2: they confirm the deer head imported all the way back 350 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen tested positive for CWD. This is the 351 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 2: first and only time the disease has been verified in 352 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 2: a deer transported into South Carolina. Last one from the 353 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: crime desk. Three Nevada men will have to pay a 354 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 2: fifteen thousand dollars fine and won't be able to hunt 355 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 2: for five years after using a drone to kill a 356 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 2: mule deer buck. The Nevada Department of Wildlife said the 357 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 2: men spied the buck on private land and use the 358 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 2: drone to harass it onto public land. But they didn't 359 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 2: even shoot it in the right unit. One of the 360 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 2: men had a mule deer tag, but it wasn't for 361 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 2: the unit where they shot the buck. Quote. I'm not 362 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: quite sure what these men were thinking, game Ward and 363 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 2: Captain Jake Kramer said in a statement, I can answer 364 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 2: that question. They probably weren't thinking at all. As Meat 365 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 2: Eater contributor Pat Dirkin famously said, big bucks make people stupid. 366 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 2: I think that applies in this case. Moving on to 367 00:20:55,280 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 2: the sharp desk, regular listeners will remember a few episodes 368 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 2: back when we had Representative Rob Whitman on the show 369 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 2: to talk about the Shark Act. The legislation would form 370 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 2: a working group to investigate ways to decrease shark angler 371 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 2: interaction and reduce the tax bill for saltwater anglers. Quote 372 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 2: paying the tax man is what fishermen call it. When 373 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 2: a shark eats part of their catch. That's just a 374 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 2: little ocean slying for you. You know, the next time 375 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 2: you find yourself in a bar with a you know, 376 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 2: salty crew of scurvy pirates. Anyway, when I hear decrease 377 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 2: shark angler interactions. I assume that means killing more sharks, 378 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: but that's not the only way to keep sharks away 379 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 2: from recreational fishing boats. The students at the University of 380 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,719 Speaker 2: New England are investigating ways that low level electrical impulses 381 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 2: might be used to repel sharks. They've invented a cylindrical 382 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: device that attaches to a fishing line about eight inches 383 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 2: away from baited hooks. The device emits a random pattern 384 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 2: of weak electric impulses that are designed to disorient sharks. 385 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 2: It works because sharks have special receptors in their snouts 386 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 2: called ampulize of Lorenzini. These receptors allow them to detect 387 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 2: electrical fields, which usually helps them find and capture prey, 388 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 2: but random electrical currents in the water have the opposite 389 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 2: effect and theoretically keep them away from an angler's line. 390 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 2: It shouldn't affect most fish, since they don't have those 391 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: electrical receptors. The results so far sound, promising the students 392 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 2: tole the Portland Herald Press that the emitters appear to 393 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 2: lower shark bycatch by about a half during a two 394 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 2: hour fishing lab on a recent weekday in the Gulf 395 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 2: of Maine. The emitters warded off all but the youngest dogfish, 396 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 2: which is a type of shark. The students believe young 397 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 2: sharks might be less affected because their receptors aren't fully developed. Yeah, 398 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 2: makes sense. It's worth noting that if these and other 399 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 2: similar devices prove successful, recreational anglers aren't the only ones 400 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 2: that will benefit. If sharks could understand the situation, they'd 401 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 2: also appreciate the warnings stay away from angler's hooks. Shark 402 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 2: bycatch can be both frustrating for anglers and deadly for sharks, 403 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 2: especially when fishing with pelagical onlines. These lines can extend 404 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 2: for miles behind a boat and suspend thousands of baited hooks. 405 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 2: Keeping sharks clear of these long lines would benefit the 406 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 2: shark populations just as much as it would relieve anglers. 407 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 2: Big thanks to listener Christy Holmes for sending us that story. 408 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 2: Moving on to the hunting desk, the body of a 409 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 2: ten year old West Virginia boy was found recently after 410 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 2: he went missing on a hunting trip with his grandfather. Wyatt. 411 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 2: Eves and Ibert went missing on a Saturday morning earlier 412 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 2: this month in Mason County. Officials first responded to the 413 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 2: area because the grandfather called to report that he'd been 414 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,479 Speaker 2: in an ATV accident. He said his grandson was missing, 415 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 2: that he'd been using the ATV to find him. Wyatt's 416 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 2: mother told local media that Wyatt and his grandfather had 417 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 2: been eating lunch when Wyatt went to take a walk 418 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 2: to look for squirrels. When his grandfather finished and started 419 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 2: looking for the boy, he said he couldn't find him. 420 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 2: Law enforcement searched the woods through the night and found 421 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 2: Wyatt's body the next morning with a single gunshot wound, 422 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: which was determined to be the cause of death. As 423 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: of this recording, officials have not said whether it was 424 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 2: an accident or suspective foul play. It's unclear how far 425 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 2: away the boy had walked or why the grandfather did 426 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 2: not hear the shot. The boy's mother told local media 427 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 2: that why it had been trained on gun safety. He 428 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 2: knew to carry the gun on his back with it 429 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 2: pointed in the air. He had very good trigger discipline. 430 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 2: Whatever happened, this is a tragedy. Wyatt's family says he 431 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 2: enjoyed hunting, fishing, wrestling, heavy metal music, and anything to 432 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: do with the military. His mother told local media that 433 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 2: he wanted to be a marine when he grew up. 434 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 2: Hunting is safer than it's ever been, thanks in large 435 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 2: part to mandatory hunter education and increased awareness of firearm 436 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 2: in tree stand safety. Even though we don't know the 437 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 2: details of this latest tragedy in West Virginia, it should 438 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 2: remind us that even an afternoon in the squirrel woods 439 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 2: can turn deadly fast. In fact, squirrel hunting presents safety 440 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 2: concerns you don't have in other kinds of hunting scenarios. 441 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 2: Squirrel hunting is often done in groups, but it's easy 442 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 2: to lose track of your buddies with your eyes trained 443 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 2: in the branches of the trees. Squirrels can also be 444 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 2: found on the ground, so it's crucial to know exactly 445 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 2: where everyone is before taking a shot. Even if you 446 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 2: hit the squirrel, a twenty two bullet can pass through 447 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 2: and hit something beyond it. If you shoot at a 448 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 2: squirrel high up in a tree, you have to be 449 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 2: sure you're not shooting in the direction of people or homes. 450 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 2: Small game cartridges like the twenty two long rifle don't 451 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 2: travel as far as big game calibers, but they can 452 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 2: still be deadly as squirrel seasons open up this fall. 453 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 2: Remember to stay vigilant. Moving on to the coyote desk, 454 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 2: Oregon joined eight other states last week when it's Fish 455 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 2: and Wildlife Commission voted to ban coyote hunting contests. Five 456 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 2: of the commissioners voted for the ban, while one abstaind. 457 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 2: The commission made the decision after a meeting on September fifteen, 458 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 2: and I'm told that they made little attempt to notify hunters. 459 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 2: Over forty people testified at the meeting in ben and 460 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 2: it sounds like most of them voiced support for the ban. 461 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 2: The animal rights group Project Coyote celebrated the decision in 462 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 2: an article on their website. As per usual, they put 463 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 2: their thesaurus to good use. In the short four hundred 464 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 2: and twenty seven word press release, they described coyote hunting 465 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 2: contests as Barbara grew some cruel, wasteful, ethically indefensible, ecologically reckless, 466 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 2: and abhorrent. I actually think they missed out on a 467 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 2: few five dollars words that would have taken the press 468 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 2: or to the next level, you know, classed it up 469 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 2: a little bit. Any of you who have ever played 470 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 2: scrabble with my Grandma know what I'm talking about, Like 471 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 2: words like heinous, repugnant, reprehensible, repulsive, abominable, loathsome contemptible or nauseating, 472 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 2: an opportunity squandered. I'd say if Project Coyote wants help 473 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 2: write in press releases, they know where to find me. Anyway, 474 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 2: the iconic thing about this breathless description of coyote hunting 475 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 2: contests is that this ban may not end up banning 476 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 2: the contests. After all, coyotes are categorized in two ways 477 00:26:54,520 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 2: in Oregon, as unprotected mammals and as predatory animals. The 478 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 2: new rule bans contests for unprotected mammals, but the Commission 479 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 2: has no authority to ban the take of predatory animals. 480 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 2: Coyotes are considered predatory when they are causing agricultural damage 481 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 2: on private land. In other words, if coyotes are killing caves, 482 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 2: which is why many contests are held in the first place, 483 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 2: a landowner can still hold the coyote hunting contest under 484 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 2: this rule. Oregon landowners will want to double check with 485 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 2: the Department of Fish and Wildlife, but that's my understanding 486 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 2: of how this new rule works. Little commentary on animal 487 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 2: contests right, So oftentimes at least in my personal experience, 488 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 2: these contests result in great social connectivity in small communities 489 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 2: and not a lot of impact on coyote populations. Be 490 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 2: that as it may, should wildlife be used in contests 491 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 2: of any sort. You know, I personally just don't even 492 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 2: like the way people behave in any sort of contest. 493 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 2: You know, look at the way that we behave on 494 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 2: the darn meat eat or trivia contests every single week. Right, 495 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 2: Spencer Newhart is going to be up for sainthood by 496 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 2: the time I'm done with it. Anyway, there is an 497 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,479 Speaker 2: interesting argument here, and you know, it really depends on 498 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 2: how far you want to take it. Right, But we 499 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 2: know that when prey populations drop, it takes a season 500 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 2: or two for the predator population to drop. When prey 501 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 2: populations rise, the predator population typically takes a season or 502 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 2: two to catch up to those prey population booms. So 503 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 2: at times it can be very necessary to knock down 504 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 2: these predator populations. That doesn't mean all the time anywhere. 505 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 2: There's some great studies that have been done that show 506 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 2: that keeping coyotes on the landscape knock down nest predators. 507 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: It's more beneficial to have coyotes on the landscape than 508 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 2: like skunks or foxes, which coyotes can kill raccoons as well, 509 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 2: things that are, you know, slinking around in the night 510 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 2: rating nests of our upland game birds. But we also 511 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: know that coyote populations when they get big, can raise 512 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 2: hell on calves, can raise hell on lambs sheep in particular. 513 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 2: So even though I think the word balance has really 514 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 2: no place in wildlife management, there are times when it 515 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 2: is absolutely like necessary, needed and warranted to knock down 516 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 2: wildlife populations. And it's going to get done, whether it's 517 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 2: in a coyote killing contest or every single taxpayer, be 518 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 2: you a vegan or not, is going to pay for 519 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 2: it when Aphis goes and flies their helicopters. So tangled 520 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 2: web we weave, isn't it? Hey from the desk of 521 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 2: Col's wee can review here. Hope your September is kicking ass. 522 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 2: You're all gonna have down weeks maybe similar to mine, 523 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 2: maybe not, but you're gonna have big up weeks too. 524 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 2: So the key is to keep on grinding away and 525 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 2: take advantage of all those little times in the woods, 526 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 2: right time on the water time in the water time, 527 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,959 Speaker 2: in the woods, be it in ten or fifteen minute increments, 528 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 2: running out after work, running out before work, just looking 529 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: and watching and listening all adds up to success, stuff 530 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 2: that cannot be replicated by buying stuff or watching stuff online. 531 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 2: So spend your time out there, get some exercise, and 532 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 2: I'll talk to you next week. 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