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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Monday, October thirtieth, two thousand and seventeen,
Speaker 1: Season thirteen, episode number sixty four. Welcome to another edition
Speaker 1: of The Break Life s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star.
Speaker 1: It's casual, mondays, I guess I didn't get the memo,
Speaker 1: but but everybody else is here in account it for
Speaker 1: you have meetings and stuff, right yeah? Well I don't
Speaker 1: so so you can just do whatever you want to do,
Speaker 1: right yeah? Who what HR says about what we should with?
Speaker 1: I ran into the director of HR. He was good
Speaker 1: in the cafeteria and she goes, you fight, You fight, Dave.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you was that was good? Perfect
Speaker 1: If you looked like Obi wan Kenobi to her? No,
Speaker 1: I guess you weren't wearing the hood at that point. No,
Speaker 1: which would be strange as to why you didn't come
Speaker 1: get on the air and say it's a good time
Speaker 1: to put on the hood. I'm Dave Hoodie today, like
Speaker 1: Darth Hoodie, Bill Belichick. I'm channeling my inner except it's yeah,
Speaker 1: so strange. Victory Monday. It is victory Monday. Cowboys get
Speaker 1: a big win yesterday, and according to a couple of
Speaker 1: people on in this group, it was a needed win.
Speaker 1: If they didn't win that the season was basically over.
Speaker 1: I think that's what you said. He I never said
Speaker 1: the season would be over if they lost this game,
Speaker 1: but I thought it was a significant game. It was
Speaker 1: a significant game. Cowboys win thirty three nineteen in what
Speaker 1: was ball accounts like a monthsoon, Like the rain was
Speaker 1: really there was a ton of rain. And I can't
Speaker 1: remember a game. I'm sure there's been some. I can't
Speaker 1: remember a game that I've been at where there was
Speaker 1: as much rain from start to finish, Like it started
Speaker 1: in the beginn and it was just kind of a
Speaker 1: drizzle and it picked up and when he picked up,
Speaker 1: it didn't seem to ever stop. It seemed like it
Speaker 1: was just a constant rain. You heard Dak talk about
Speaker 1: it after the game, talk about how the balls got
Speaker 1: heavier and heavier, and it just it was a tough
Speaker 1: Those were tough conditions to play it. Yeah, Like it
Speaker 1: sucked for I mean for them we were drying the
Speaker 1: press box, but I was. I actually I wanted to
Speaker 1: go out. None of y'all. Y'all were all smart enough
Speaker 1: not to join me, but I wanted to go out
Speaker 1: at the end, just to kind of get a feel
Speaker 1: for what it was like out there. How long were
Speaker 1: you went on the plane, Like the whole way back wet. Yeah.
Speaker 1: When I changed like to go to bed, I was
Speaker 1: still kind of drying off. Like it was just like
Speaker 1: soaking wet, just NonStop from about late second quarter until
Speaker 1: we got on the plane. It did not stop. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like one of the reporters asked Dak last night, He's like,
Speaker 1: can you please explain how does it feel to be
Speaker 1: playing under the rain so that fans can really get
Speaker 1: an idea what it's like. Well, just go outside when
Speaker 1: it's raining and throw the ball and see how it feels.
Speaker 1: Go find out for yourself. Yeah. So yeah, they've wanted
Speaker 1: to find out for himself to see what it was
Speaker 1: like out there, right, And he did, and you figured
Speaker 1: out that it was not fun right. Basically, yeah, it
Speaker 1: was nice in the rainy and cold. But let's get
Speaker 1: into some of the more some more of the more
Speaker 1: interesting points of the game. And I think it has
Speaker 1: to start with Ezekiel Elliott. This guy is just playing
Speaker 1: phenomenal football right now. And I think it all starts
Speaker 1: with the fact that that offensive line is playing phenomenal
Speaker 1: football right now. Once they started kind of getting their
Speaker 1: thing together, they started to see these holes open up.
Speaker 1: And when when Zeke sees holes and he gets through
Speaker 1: them and he makes big runs for them. Yesterday he
Speaker 1: has thirty three carries, one hundred and fifty yards four
Speaker 1: point five average, two touchdowns. Talk about how he performed, Nick,
Speaker 1: what you what'd you see out there? Well? I just
Speaker 1: thought it was one of those games where you know,
Speaker 1: with the rain the way it was, you need somebody
Speaker 1: to just grind out some yards, and I thought he
Speaker 1: did that. I thought it was nothing flash, no touchdowns
Speaker 1: runs like we saw two weeks before in San Francisco
Speaker 1: or a week before in San Francisco. But but this
Speaker 1: was just kind of more of your Nfcees Cowboys Redskins
Speaker 1: type of game. And I thought he really did U
Speaker 1: he played well when the offense. It was gonna be
Speaker 1: tough to move the ball. It is tougher to throw it,
Speaker 1: especially in the red zone. And I thought he did
Speaker 1: an excellent job for them. This. Uh. The interesting thing
Speaker 1: about all of this when it comes to Ezequiel Elliott
Speaker 1: is as of today, the whole narrative changes. Even though
Speaker 1: he had such a great game this week and has
Speaker 1: been playing well the last couple of weeks, everything could
Speaker 1: change today. Will go to our legal expert here, David Hellman,
Speaker 1: who wears a hoodie now tell us, like what the
Speaker 1: hood don't like that? Don't like the hood I made
Speaker 1: a popular but hey, what's happening today? What is the
Speaker 1: layout of what's happening in a day? With regard to
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott in his court case, Zeke did not fly
Speaker 1: back with the team last night because he is going
Speaker 1: to his hearing with Judge Catherine Failure fail in the
Speaker 1: second District of New York today. It's supposed to start
Speaker 1: about four pm. I don't think this is one like
Speaker 1: La two weeks ago. Was unique because that was just
Speaker 1: a trro. It wasn't an injunction like that. Hearing took
Speaker 1: what an hour and we got a ruling later that day.
Speaker 1: I'm not under the impression that's going to happen today.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a hearing today, and then we will
Speaker 1: hear what's going to happen sometime this week. I think
Speaker 1: I'll be surprised if we actually get a ruling tonight.
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna come later. But the judge, you know,
Speaker 1: we had Daniel Wallack on our show a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 1: He laid all this out. That's happening today. The judge
Speaker 1: that was supposed to hear that, who wasn't there at
Speaker 1: the time, is going to hear this situation and decide
Speaker 1: whether or not to grant him an injunction. There are
Speaker 1: steps he can take if he loses this hearing, he
Speaker 1: can appeal again, but I believe he have to do
Speaker 1: that while suspended. So this week we're going to find
Speaker 1: out whether probably he plays for the rest of the
Speaker 1: season or he continues this fight while he's serving his suspension. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the injunction, just to be clear, the way I
Speaker 1: understand it is, what they're basically going to be hearing
Speaker 1: today is the argument that Zeke should be able to
Speaker 1: play while this makes its way right through the court
Speaker 1: while the court cases is proceeding. The NFL is obviously
Speaker 1: saying that they don't want him playing during that time.
Speaker 1: His representatives are saying there is undo I mean, there
Speaker 1: is a harm that cannot be undone to Zeke if
Speaker 1: he has to miss time and then has proven proven
Speaker 1: to be wins his case in the end. So the
Speaker 1: judge has to decide whether there's enough merit in this
Speaker 1: case that Zeke has enough of a case that he
Speaker 1: should be able to play, and that there is going
Speaker 1: to be unreparable harm done to him if he doesn't
Speaker 1: get to play in the meantime. So a lot to
Speaker 1: be able to figure out. But David sounds like that's
Speaker 1: not a decision and necessarily come today. It's a decision.
Speaker 1: It may come at some point this week, you would presume,
Speaker 1: and then we'd find out whether he can play. At
Speaker 1: this point, I'm saying myself up for failure by trying
Speaker 1: to predict it. But I bet I'm like, this also
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like something that's going to drag out until
Speaker 1: Friday at close time, Like I'm I think like by
Speaker 1: Wednesday evening we'll know. That's just sort of my gut
Speaker 1: and the reality is the judge I assume could make
Speaker 1: a bench decision there. But I don't I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I don't think it does happen, but I think it's
Speaker 1: probably gonna be a little bit for her deliberate. I'm
Speaker 1: like I said, the last hearing for the tro took
Speaker 1: like fifty minutes. I'm under the impression this one's going
Speaker 1: to take a couple like a few hours. I would
Speaker 1: be again, I'd be surprised if we hear anything definitive tonight. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I just don't think it'll go past Tuesday. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know that the NFL work, I mean, the court systems,
Speaker 1: they don't care about the NFL and all that I
Speaker 1: know about. But I just I just don't feel like
Speaker 1: it'll well. Okay, if it does go past Tuesday, I
Speaker 1: think the I think that he probably will play. I mean,
Speaker 1: now I don't. I don't know about that, just because
Speaker 1: the NFL. One of the things that the NFL got
Speaker 1: criticized about was for them to now claim that there
Speaker 1: would be irreparable harm to them if Ezechuel is allowed
Speaker 1: to play. One of the arguments people brought up was, well,
Speaker 1: you were going to let him finish out a week
Speaker 1: and say hey, you can go ahead and play this
Speaker 1: week if the decision came later in the week. And
Speaker 1: in the last instance when when when the ruling was
Speaker 1: was shot down, they said he's just suspended immediately because
Speaker 1: they didn't by a week. I hear you, But I
Speaker 1: just I have a feeling like the NFL is just
Speaker 1: for purposes of how it looks. I think no matter
Speaker 1: when it happens, they're probably going to say this is
Speaker 1: immediate I think with how contentious it's been and how
Speaker 1: I mean ze, you know, you could argue with everything
Speaker 1: that played out before the season, like they were blindsided
Speaker 1: and they didn't blah blah blah blah blah whatever, like
Speaker 1: you know, you had short notice that this was going
Speaker 1: to happen. But I think everybody knows that this has
Speaker 1: been a possibility basically since the season started. And if
Speaker 1: he doesn't get the ruling that he wants, I bet
Speaker 1: he's immediate out gone. Yeah, So this is gonna be interesting.
Speaker 1: We'll see what all plays out today. It'll start at
Speaker 1: four pm, and then we'll see how long it takes
Speaker 1: four the judge to then make a decision. Whatever that
Speaker 1: decision is just not this shouldn't be groundbreaking if you've
Speaker 1: watched the last three or so Cowboy games. But for
Speaker 1: all the gnashing of teeth we've been doing about Zeke
Speaker 1: and like, hi, has he lost the step and he
Speaker 1: doesn't look the same, he is currently on pace for
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred and seventy seven yards and fourteen touchdowns. Yep.
Speaker 1: So he's right back on track where he was, and
Speaker 1: I think we can all agree it would not be
Speaker 1: great for this team's fortunes if he's not available. Yeah,
Speaker 1: saw in graphic last night to sit through. I think
Speaker 1: it was twenty two games. I think that's what he's
Speaker 1: played at this point. There have been there have been
Speaker 1: only three guys that he's second as far as the
Speaker 1: number of yards that he's had in the first twenty
Speaker 1: two games of his career. But it was touchdowns? Was
Speaker 1: it touchdowns? Twenty one touchdowns in twenty two games with
Speaker 1: and then one above him was Berry? Okay, then that
Speaker 1: wasn't the ground. Look Sorry, the graphic I was looking
Speaker 1: to had three guys on it. The first guy was Dickerson,
Speaker 1: Zeke was second. The third guy was Earl Campbell. So
Speaker 1: it's like we're talking about two different pretty that's pretty good.
Speaker 1: He's company. He's in really really good company, really good
Speaker 1: comp out. We were talking about how he if he
Speaker 1: would have hit that one hundred and fifty yard mark,
Speaker 1: yeah on Friday, right on the note, right on the mark,
Speaker 1: right there, And it's surprising. We were looking at the
Speaker 1: stats and it's surprising to me when I looked at it,
Speaker 1: I'm like, he got that many yards, Like it's insane
Speaker 1: because you don't what was the longest one? He had
Speaker 1: sixteen fourteen yards? Yeah, but from the very beginning, little
Speaker 1: by little like but it's unnoticeable just because they're not
Speaker 1: big place, you know, so when you look at the
Speaker 1: end result, you're like, oh wow, he actually did really
Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, in from the very beginning of the game,
Speaker 1: i mean he's hitting him for five six seven yards pop.
Speaker 1: I mean every every time he got the ball and
Speaker 1: then he have he'd have one that was like no
Speaker 1: game on one game. But then he hit fourteen right,
Speaker 1: So very beginning of the game, you're you're forgetting the
Speaker 1: first place. I mean that was a four yard run
Speaker 1: to be fair, but it wasn't. Well he made it
Speaker 1: up with a touchdown. Yeah, it was a funnel, but
Speaker 1: he got four yards. He definitely made it up. And
Speaker 1: that's pretty much what my column was about, was the
Speaker 1: defense giving up a big play on the first drive
Speaker 1: that they got in after, you know, a real drive,
Speaker 1: and Nugent's first field goal was a miss and his
Speaker 1: first carry was a fumble, but all three of them,
Speaker 1: I mean, when you look at those two guys, and
Speaker 1: then the defense as a whole won the game for him.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't really how it started, was definitely how
Speaker 1: it finished. Yeah, they gave up a field goal, touchdown,
Speaker 1: field goal first three drives and then didn't give up
Speaker 1: another score, and so I think it was too something
Speaker 1: or left in the fourth quarter. It was. I think
Speaker 1: it was a really really dominating performance by the defense.
Speaker 1: But we'll get to that ahead. So I just think,
Speaker 1: I mean, let's be let's be fair about it. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter because it never matters when it happens to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. But that was the most banged up football
Speaker 1: team I've ever seen, maybe ever, and got worse during
Speaker 1: and it got worse. Yeah, I've just never seen anything
Speaker 1: like what the Redskins are going through right now on
Speaker 1: their offensive line and then just you know, even their
Speaker 1: blocking tight ends and it was a mess for them. Uh,
Speaker 1: you don't feel sorry for him, just the way it is.
Speaker 1: But I don't feel sorry. You take they said, you
Speaker 1: don't feel okay, though I heard no, no, you don't
Speaker 1: feel sorry. Okay, but but you you know it's you
Speaker 1: just remember, okay, that you can you can acknowledge that
Speaker 1: both things can be true, Like so few people want
Speaker 1: to admit that in talking football. But it can be
Speaker 1: true that the Redskins are ridiculously banged up. It can
Speaker 1: also be true that it doesn't matter, and it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: It's just that I don't think that Crawford, Irving, and
Speaker 1: Lawrence are going to be teammates in the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1: I mean, just because of that. But even though even
Speaker 1: though I was about to say that way, those three,
Speaker 1: I don't know, those three won't make it all to
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl as it don't know. I'm I'm waiting
Speaker 1: two of them might. I don't know. I mean, I'm waiting. Hold,
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop on those guys.
Speaker 1: But I did the DeMarcus Lawrence is on pace for
Speaker 1: twenty four sexs. David Irving is on pace for twenty
Speaker 1: three games five sacks. Even Tyrone Crawford's on pace for nine.
Speaker 1: He's got four through seven, and I mean, good goodness, gracious,
Speaker 1: did he ever look fantastic? What maybe for the first time?
Speaker 1: Oh wow, special delivery. I'm in the middle of a
Speaker 1: show here. I mean, okay, nice, well, we ruined, not ruined.
Speaker 1: I mean there are breaks. You can get water during breaks.
Speaker 1: Thanks Shannon, thank you. Get out. All right, let's selah,
Speaker 1: Let's get back to some talk. Let's talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about Dak. Dak yesterday had he was fourteen of
Speaker 1: twenty two for sixty four with a sixty four percent
Speaker 1: completion percentage, one hundred and forty three yards, zero touchdowns,
Speaker 1: zero interceptions, eighty two point two quarterback rating. I personally
Speaker 1: believe he did exactly what he needed to do in
Speaker 1: those kinds of conditions for them to have a win.
Speaker 1: I've seen some people who said he didn't play very well.
Speaker 1: What do you guys think about how Dak played yesterday?
Speaker 1: I think that you know, they won the game. That's
Speaker 1: in that situation. That's all you can really do. It's
Speaker 1: an ugly game. It's an ugly game, so why would
Speaker 1: it be a beautiful performance from from the quarterback. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just now. The one thing that strikes me kind
Speaker 1: of oddly, I guess, is that Cousins talked about what
Speaker 1: they did all week long to try to prepare and
Speaker 1: Dak and then said that they did nothing to prepare
Speaker 1: yep um, but they didn't really have any other than Zeke.
Speaker 1: They didn't have any any turnovers or anything like that. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, handling the ball. Now, he didn't throw the
Speaker 1: ball well. I don't know if Cousins wasn't that great
Speaker 1: either throwing it so for like two two or six. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's what they do. I mean, they're running back,
Speaker 1: had what twenty yards so well, and that didn't really
Speaker 1: make mistakes. It's not not what one that I can remember,
Speaker 1: And I would say that's all you can really ask
Speaker 1: for under that condition and that type of situation. I mean,
Speaker 1: there were some balls that weren't completely on target, but again,
Speaker 1: and that kind of situation, I don't expect ball a
Speaker 1: lot of balls to be on target. I mean that
Speaker 1: that kind of game is a game where you're not
Speaker 1: going to be able to throw the ball as precisely
Speaker 1: as you normally do. It's just that's just the fact
Speaker 1: of the batter. If you think Dak played poorly, you're
Speaker 1: either stupid or you don't people I'm telling you right now,
Speaker 1: or you don't understand what the rain was like last night.
Speaker 1: Those are that's probably a good Those are the two options.
Speaker 1: Like you you're dumb, or you saw it on TV
Speaker 1: and you're like, it's not raining that hard, But it
Speaker 1: really was. And I actually made it a point to
Speaker 1: come here early and have breakfast and had some conversations
Speaker 1: about because you know, Dak doesn't give great answers about
Speaker 1: this stuff because he's Dak. I was like, at some
Speaker 1: point in that game, you kind of realized that you
Speaker 1: had to change the way that that y'all wanted to
Speaker 1: do this thing. And they're like, yeah, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: it gets to a point where the rain's fallen that
Speaker 1: hard and the balls that saggy. You see Dak start
Speaker 1: missing some throws that you know he wouldn't miss in
Speaker 1: normal conditions, and you're like, well, yeah, and you know,
Speaker 1: we gotta lead. What are we doing here. Let's just
Speaker 1: let's just get out of here and not put ourselves
Speaker 1: in any bad situations. And that's exactly what they did.
Speaker 1: Dak didn't make any mistakes. He added, you know the
Speaker 1: element of the run game that he's had and had
Speaker 1: a nice ten yard run that to pick up a
Speaker 1: first a crucial first down. Actually, I went back and
Speaker 1: looked at it too. He completed five passes for thirty
Speaker 1: eight yards in the second half. Three of those five
Speaker 1: were third down conversions on crucial drives. He picked up
Speaker 1: a third and three to Cole Beasley on an eventual
Speaker 1: field goal drive. He picked up a third and seven
Speaker 1: to Ryan Switzer or a third and six to Ryan
Speaker 1: Switzer on a seven yard pass on another field goal drive.
Speaker 1: And he completed a third and five to deaz on
Speaker 1: the drive that let him run the clock all the
Speaker 1: way down to one minute, so when he had to
Speaker 1: have it, he still had it. And otherwise, why wouldn't
Speaker 1: you do anything but lean on your running game in
Speaker 1: a situation like that. I talk built for that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd talked to a guy, one of the players after
Speaker 1: the game, and I won't say who it is, but
Speaker 1: this future Hall of Famer said that he thought that
Speaker 1: it's not Orlando. Sorry, it was a future hide in
Speaker 1: and not talking him. Jeff swam. Nice nice diving attempt there.
Speaker 1: Brendon Carr man, I'll tell you what. Hey, were you going?
Speaker 1: I want to hear this story. I feel like Jason
Speaker 1: Witten just said, it's not anymore. That's not football anymore.
Speaker 1: It rings like that, that's not football, that's not what
Speaker 1: that's not you know what we practice all week long.
Speaker 1: It's just it all goes out the window. He was like,
Speaker 1: you know how many red zone opportunities I was going
Speaker 1: to have in this game? And like it just changes everything.
Speaker 1: So even Bryce Butler was saying, how there's a play
Speaker 1: they put in for him. He runs onto the field,
Speaker 1: he goes in motion, he goes into the corner. The
Speaker 1: ball is supposed to go to him. He goes, what happens,
Speaker 1: I won't run the route. I am wide open. I'm
Speaker 1: sitting there by myself going hey, Dak hey, and he
Speaker 1: goes yeah. He goes just like, hey, I'm hoping over here. Hey.
Speaker 1: It's like it passes for me and that goes into
Speaker 1: dead was like, what's that? But that He's like, they
Speaker 1: That's why I'm in the game. So, I mean the
Speaker 1: point is as everything goes out the window, yeah, when
Speaker 1: that happens, yeah, and well, but the great thing is,
Speaker 1: you know you can argue about these things till you're
Speaker 1: blue in the face. We have we're very unfortunate to have.
Speaker 1: We we know what it would have looked like if
Speaker 1: it hadn't rained, because you saw the first quarter and
Speaker 1: a half of the game. They zipped right down the field.
Speaker 1: Dak was Dak got like five receivers involved on the
Speaker 1: first possession. He threw it to Whitney, threw it to Swain,
Speaker 1: he threw it to Daz, he threw it to Terrence.
Speaker 1: Terrence was set up. Looked like Terrence was going to
Speaker 1: have the best day of his season. And then like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like you said, it all goes out the window. But
Speaker 1: I will say this, we also saw on the other
Speaker 1: side of the ball too, maybe what could have sure, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a great They hit a couple of those. They
Speaker 1: hit that deep ball to the crowder, and I was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: this is this is gonna be? Is this what the
Speaker 1: day is gonna be? Like? I mean, that was a
Speaker 1: game where it was destined for, you know, thirty forty
Speaker 1: points of boat teams until the rain started. That's a
Speaker 1: great point. And going back, you know, I don't yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want to name names, but conversations I have
Speaker 1: with people here is like, you know, by that point,
Speaker 1: by the time it really started raining, we had a lead,
Speaker 1: and we knew that they were going to have to
Speaker 1: throw in those conditions, which isn't good for anybody because
Speaker 1: they can't run. That's the problem. They can't run. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they only had what forty nine yards rushing overall? Yeah,
Speaker 1: three point three yards per carry? Yeah? All right, sorry, god,
Speaker 1: no good, It's just you're right. Maybe it is a
Speaker 1: little fortuitous because this team is built to handle that,
Speaker 1: and the Washington Redskins are not cloud at all. All right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take our first break when we come back.
Speaker 1: I want to dive into this defense, which, although the
Speaker 1: rain was the rain, they did play I think what
Speaker 1: may have been one of their better games of a
Speaker 1: season against a really good offense. We'll talk about when
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Speaker 1: Welcome back. It's the second segment show lock Ins WBC
Speaker 1: Mortgage Studios. At the start, we're talking about the Cowboys
Speaker 1: big win, they win thirty three nineteen over the Washington Redskins,
Speaker 1: and we've talked a lot about the offense. Now let's
Speaker 1: talk about this defense. This is the second game in
Speaker 1: the row where they've had three turnovers, which I think
Speaker 1: is probably the biggest stat line for this defense because
Speaker 1: up until last week before the game against San Francisco,
Speaker 1: we were talking about that's the thing that they needed
Speaker 1: to do more than anything else, get some turnovers. They've
Speaker 1: gotten three turnos in both of the last two games.
Speaker 1: Why are you looking like that? Like no, what I
Speaker 1: start seeing they look on your face like not even
Speaker 1: that you not? I just I'm they got three turnovers.
Speaker 1: Was great, They played great, but they broke They broke
Speaker 1: my heart because because like the two dudes that I
Speaker 1: wanted to see make plays, Taco and Jalen had a
Speaker 1: shot at one like back to back to back, right,
Speaker 1: and they both broke my heart. Like I thought that
Speaker 1: was gonna be it for Taco, Like, Okay, that's a
Speaker 1: tough play for a defensive end to make. I don't
Speaker 1: know what he was doing back there though, he I
Speaker 1: mean they dropped and drops sometimes. Yeah, and then and
Speaker 1: then Jalen has a shot and to me, you know
Speaker 1: this and that would have been two weeks in a
Speaker 1: row where he has this amazing play and he couldn't
Speaker 1: even did the swipe and everything, and then they took
Speaker 1: it and he just broke my heart. But they did
Speaker 1: play really well. They did play well the defense. They
Speaker 1: got four sacks. Irving had two, Crawford had one, Lawrence
Speaker 1: had one. Uh, they had um you know, and that's
Speaker 1: that's crazy that they didn't give one to Scandrick. I
Speaker 1: guess because the ball hit Yeah, that's you know, Scandrid
Speaker 1: comes off the edge and then you know Cousins is
Speaker 1: going to throw it. He's about to throw it. I
Speaker 1: mean to me, if you're about to throw that the sack, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't understand that. Yeah, I don't either. But he
Speaker 1: had a really good game to Orlando, did I had
Speaker 1: a really good Um. You look at just everything they
Speaker 1: were able to do yesterday and all the defensive players
Speaker 1: that that played, well, who do you think stood out
Speaker 1: the most of those defensive players? Nick Wow? Um, it's
Speaker 1: it's a three way tie for sure for me. But
Speaker 1: I on the roundtable that we did Friday, I said,
Speaker 1: you know, I think Irving will have success. I think
Speaker 1: Lawrence will have success. Crawford needs to also come in
Speaker 1: there and play really well too. You get three guys
Speaker 1: doing well, So I'm gonna say Crawford, I mean, I
Speaker 1: thought he did a really nice job. Had it had
Speaker 1: a sack, forced the fumble and uh field goal. That
Speaker 1: was to me, that was the play of the game,
Speaker 1: no doubt. That was the play of the game they
Speaker 1: needed at at that moment, and they got it, and
Speaker 1: they got him in position. They scored two plays later
Speaker 1: in point it was huge, a ten point swing, which
Speaker 1: down nine and you go up one, just like that.
Speaker 1: I have no beef with that. Ty That was probably
Speaker 1: the best game of Tyrone Crawford's career, and certainly his
Speaker 1: best game since he signed that extension. Like I mean, amazing,
Speaker 1: But if all they do is block the field goal,
Speaker 1: it's maybe not that great. What do you mean? They
Speaker 1: just start right there, landed somewhere around the Dallas fifteen,
Speaker 1: and Orlando Scandrick picked it up and hauled butt to
Speaker 1: the Washington two or wherever he wound up getting tackled
Speaker 1: for your for a cornerback for a thirty year old cornerback.
Speaker 1: Eight tackles, two tackles for loss, that block fuel goal recovery,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna give him credit for a sack because
Speaker 1: he got into one tackle for loss and a sac
Speaker 1: oh is uh oh damn? Well yeah one one still better?
Speaker 1: Okay one and one is still better than that. Still
Speaker 1: be a great sta. Yeah, he was outstanding, I thought.
Speaker 1: I asked him, I was like, was that the best
Speaker 1: game of your career? He obviously disagreed with me this game?
Speaker 1: Did he say, did he did he throw out a game?
Speaker 1: He did? I don't say. No, he had one ready
Speaker 1: in the chamber for me, But I don't. I think
Speaker 1: I disagree with him. I think this was maybe the
Speaker 1: best game he's ever played. Someone on the plane and
Speaker 1: in the locker room told me, just look at how
Speaker 1: many times he's targeted. It was scantry both times. I
Speaker 1: said that. But his point is that he doesn't get
Speaker 1: targeted a whole lot. When he does, you know, he's
Speaker 1: there's no separation, and he makes play. One of my
Speaker 1: five plays that don't forget about is the first series
Speaker 1: of the game. After the fumble it's third and five,
Speaker 1: there's a crossing route over the middle to Grant makes
Speaker 1: the tackle immediately they killed kick a field goal. That
Speaker 1: no momentum. Really, it was kind of and you tweeted
Speaker 1: that day it was a win. That does a win
Speaker 1: when you give up a fumble and they kick a
Speaker 1: field goal and it's only three nothing and they answered
Speaker 1: it just like that. So but I thought that was
Speaker 1: one of the key plays. I mean, he was, he
Speaker 1: really was. It was probably his best game. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: real quick, don't forget eighty six yards. Oh yeah, he
Speaker 1: didn't make it to the end zone. You know, he's
Speaker 1: a cornerback that at the end of the drive. That
Speaker 1: was a drive you know, the Redskins had and they're
Speaker 1: moving the ball and he's chasing receivers and then to
Speaker 1: go in the run eighty six yards like that, I
Speaker 1: mean that, Yeah, he probably would like to have scored,
Speaker 1: but oh he oh he wanted. That's so bad. Like
Speaker 1: that's literally like the thing that has the reason Orlando
Speaker 1: Scandrick is not like a two or three time pro
Speaker 1: bowler is because he doesn't have those types of plays
Speaker 1: on his resume where he gets to the end zone
Speaker 1: or has the long return and that time, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I think the one that the one that
Speaker 1: really stands out as he picked off Jay Cutler to
Speaker 1: seal the Bears game in twenty fourteen, I think, and
Speaker 1: the Bears were coming back and he caught he got
Speaker 1: him in the end zone. But like other than that,
Speaker 1: it's just not a thing that happens for him very often.
Speaker 1: So like I know, he wanted to score right there
Speaker 1: so bad, but still, I mean, like I said earlier,
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott is not one for sweeping grand stage mints
Speaker 1: and juicy quotes, and he was like, yeah, that was
Speaker 1: the biggest player in the whole game and the turning point,
Speaker 1: like they did it all for us. They put us
Speaker 1: right there inside the ten yard line, swung the momentum
Speaker 1: ten points swing. I mean, it's absolutely huge. You know,
Speaker 1: if you go back and watch the block, there's two
Speaker 1: hands right there. For the first one, of course, it's
Speaker 1: Crawford and you know he's right in line and the
Speaker 1: ball is going to probably go through the upright, so
Speaker 1: he blocks it. But Irving's hand is right behind it,
Speaker 1: and if you watch it, it goes kind of through
Speaker 1: Crawford into Irving like his pinky but once it hits
Speaker 1: Irving's hand, it goes sideways. Now I'm not saying the
Speaker 1: ball would have gone in. I don't know how much
Speaker 1: you know, momentum it was gonna have to carry. But
Speaker 1: I think both of them affected the play. And you know,
Speaker 1: Irving's like, I got a little little piece of that too,
Speaker 1: and they Crawford they're gonna get. You don't get half
Speaker 1: a block. You know, Crawford got the block, but I
Speaker 1: thought Irving also had you know, Cowboys pr is trying
Speaker 1: to give it to both of them. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's going to hold up with the league, but
Speaker 1: don't be like when when the teams stats come out
Speaker 1: this week, don't be surprised if they both get credit
Speaker 1: for it. The one thing I will say, Nick, is
Speaker 1: if you said that, if you said that, it kind
Speaker 1: of did change the trajectory once Irving hit it and Dave,
Speaker 1: you're saying that the biggest part of that play was
Speaker 1: the return. Maybe you don't get the return, but for
Speaker 1: Irving's yeah, hit on it as well, So then it
Speaker 1: makes that that block way more important than just Crawford's block.
Speaker 1: Maybe you don't get the field goal, but in this
Speaker 1: sense is maybe you don't get to return without irving right.
Speaker 1: And you know how we just talked about Scandrick being
Speaker 1: at the end of the drive and that's probably why
Speaker 1: I didn't score, because he was tired. That also affected
Speaker 1: where he was lined up because a lot of times
Speaker 1: he will come off the edge and dive and miss it.
Speaker 1: If he doesn't if he's not a dog tired there,
Speaker 1: he's not standing back there to pick up the ball.
Speaker 1: But we had a good view of it and I thought,
Speaker 1: you know, just keep going to the right, you're gonna
Speaker 1: get twenty five yards. But when he cut left, you
Speaker 1: can kind of see that wall and you're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned that too, by the way, because
Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't block it. But you gotta give
Speaker 1: Scandrick some credit for that mixed missed extra point that
Speaker 1: the Redskins had as well. He can't. I mean, just
Speaker 1: like he always says, he came off the side. I
Speaker 1: think Orlando gave himself credit for it if nobody else did, so, uh,
Speaker 1: you know they what I think he hooked it left
Speaker 1: or he hooked it. He hooked it. I mean he
Speaker 1: missed the next point and Scandrick was coming free on
Speaker 1: it so affected the kicker there on a play that
Speaker 1: obviously Byron Jones got that pick six, But I mean
Speaker 1: the difference between defending a full seven point lead verse
Speaker 1: six is huge. I mean, it was a fun plane
Speaker 1: ride for them on the way back, and Scandrick was
Speaker 1: up and down the aisle and talking to us, and
Speaker 1: you know, like a lot of players were and um,
Speaker 1: you know some of them weren't sitting down at the end.
Speaker 1: They're gonna get in trouble buzz they were. You know
Speaker 1: when when that flight attend that got on and said
Speaker 1: you'll sit down, Like I was great. You know do
Speaker 1: you know like I think we're grown. I think you
Speaker 1: know who was the one person that was standing up?
Speaker 1: I mean Jason, No, it can't never mind Taco. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Brandon Carr and people play born Orlando Scandrey take your pick, right.
Speaker 1: We need to get some updated you get guys that
Speaker 1: that are here. Uh no, this is classic, Garrett, That's
Speaker 1: why we have it. There there's Taco just standing up.
Speaker 1: I'm like, really, like, sit down, been here long enough
Speaker 1: to be like, okay, don't worry about it. But no,
Speaker 1: I mean maybe he's a stand up defensive end now
Speaker 1: because he was diving back there, you know, playing linebacker.
Speaker 1: That would have What would that have done? We argued
Speaker 1: that the other day about you know, if he just
Speaker 1: makes one play, we still if e one makes a
Speaker 1: diving interception like that, honestly, no, I mean I would
Speaker 1: have been pumped in. It would have been a great play.
Speaker 1: But no, it's not like fans suddenly think he's awesome
Speaker 1: because he gets like a fluke interception dropping. They would
Speaker 1: have they would have been like, he's still haven't gotten sack?
Speaker 1: Like do what do what we've drafted you to do? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know, be an athlete and make a play,
Speaker 1: and that would would have helped. It definitely would have helped.
Speaker 1: Don't all right, let's let's do talk a little bit
Speaker 1: though about special teams. I thought special teams yesterday was
Speaker 1: again difference makers. We talked we kind of lumped it
Speaker 1: into defense, but really it's the special teams that made
Speaker 1: the block that got the return, and quite frankly, Mike
Speaker 1: Nugent played I thought as well as good of a
Speaker 1: game as you can expect from a guy who's coming
Speaker 1: in who was on the street. I think I heard
Speaker 1: I think Taylor was telling me last week he was
Speaker 1: on last Sunday, he was with his daughter at the zoo,
Speaker 1: And this week he's at an NFL game and torrential
Speaker 1: downpours and he's being expected to kick forty nine yard
Speaker 1: field goals. Only that last team that worked him out
Speaker 1: before the Cowboys with the Redskins. Yeah, it's awesome. I
Speaker 1: love the way that type of stuff works out. And
Speaker 1: the I mean, yeah, you know, obviously, like you signed
Speaker 1: this guy on Tuesday. Of course he's going to come
Speaker 1: in and have to kick five field goals in the
Speaker 1: trenial downpour. Of course, of course the Cowboys aren't gonna
Speaker 1: win twenty eight to you know, seventeen and all he
Speaker 1: has to worry about his extra points. Like that's just
Speaker 1: not the way, although that might have been a little
Speaker 1: tougher for him, knowing how last year win. Maybe hey
Speaker 1: he was three for three. He was three for three year, right,
Speaker 1: But it's just like I swear, that's just the way
Speaker 1: the NFL works. Is like when you get signed on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: you have to you know, the ball finds you. I
Speaker 1: guess I don't know, but I thought he was awesome,
Speaker 1: especially since his first his first kick was a miss
Speaker 1: from from was a forty nine from a forgivable distance
Speaker 1: for sure, but you're still like, oh, okay, Dan, where
Speaker 1: are you okay? So in the press box, I looked
Speaker 1: over him like Robin Dave. I was like, you think
Speaker 1: he makes this? And both of them no, no, And
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if you wait in
Speaker 1: but I know. I said he's gonna hook it to
Speaker 1: the left, and Mickey was like, he's gonna hook it
Speaker 1: to the left. So nobody there there was no like
Speaker 1: confidence there that he was gonna make that in which
Speaker 1: he actually he was good in pregame. He hit like
Speaker 1: he hit seven of eight going out and they said
Speaker 1: he hit a fifty three yarder. He hit fifty eight yarder.
Speaker 1: He hit through thirty one, thirty four, thirty seven, forty
Speaker 1: one four, He missed from forty eight, re kicked it
Speaker 1: and made it hit a fifty three. I think he
Speaker 1: missed a couple from fifty eight. Oh yeah, yeah he did.
Speaker 1: He didn't miss that thing. He was good in pregame,
Speaker 1: but I just thinking he had the leg part. But
Speaker 1: what Mickey was saying was that he tends to to
Speaker 1: hook left, and so whenever he's on the left, hash
Speaker 1: that tends to be a problem for him because he
Speaker 1: already hooks left. So that's what Mickey said. Did Mickey
Speaker 1: go watch like cut ups and tell you that's what
Speaker 1: That's what Mickey was saying there. He's either making that
Speaker 1: up or somebody maybe maybe somebody told him that, But
Speaker 1: like if he went home, I hope that rich Bisaccia
Speaker 1: told him that, because if he went home on like Friday,
Speaker 1: I was just watching cut ups off Mike Nugent went
Speaker 1: the Bengals Like that's too much. You don't need to
Speaker 1: do that, man, Hey, he's doing his job. That's you know,
Speaker 1: there's doing your job, and then there's having Like I'm
Speaker 1: sure there's been some moments where you knew something, something
Speaker 1: kind of was in the back of your brain about
Speaker 1: a particular player and you're like, I'm gonna do the
Speaker 1: research to figure this out. Yeah, and so you spent
Speaker 1: countless number of hours doing that just to figure it out. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Usually it's for like Dak or somebody quarterback, not the
Speaker 1: kicker who's gonna be here for three weeks. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: he also scored twelve points or no more than that.
Speaker 1: He had with fourteen points. Um, you know, last two weeks,
Speaker 1: you've talked about three. You said three turnovers but from
Speaker 1: the defense, but really it's been two from the defense
Speaker 1: and one from special teams in each of the last two.
Speaker 1: I mean, Keith Smith goes down on the kickoff and
Speaker 1: forces a fumble, it leads to a field goal of
Speaker 1: the week before the game just you know changed early
Speaker 1: when Cavan Frasier knocked the ball out and no yes
Speaker 1: and Xavier Woods picked it up. So special teams has
Speaker 1: has played a big part there. I was, I was wondering,
Speaker 1: I know, he missed the field goal and on a
Speaker 1: Dave you do the grades for our flashback, and I
Speaker 1: was like, man, I really hope that that's an a
Speaker 1: for a special team. Yeah no, I'm well, and you know,
Speaker 1: to be perfectly fair, I mean, I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm I'm gonna chalk it up to the
Speaker 1: rain for Ryan Swa because he that was a weird
Speaker 1: day for him. I don't know if I call it,
Speaker 1: you know, and I know what you I assume what
Speaker 1: you're talking about is when he need he knelt yet
Speaker 1: he let one bounce from the thirty to the ten.
Speaker 1: He like, just in general, it was not I thought
Speaker 1: a very good night for him. I honestly think that
Speaker 1: in that situation, I wasn't able to see the play
Speaker 1: fully because we were on our way down to the field. Um,
Speaker 1: but I didn't even see the neil. I just yeah,
Speaker 1: it was it was like the third or fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: They're about to get the ball on like the thirty three,
Speaker 1: and he let it bounce and it went down to
Speaker 1: the nine and completely maybe it was right before the half.
Speaker 1: I don't know. My thought was, I didn't know, like
Speaker 1: I didn't know what return unit was on the field.
Speaker 1: Was it Were they expecting an onside kick? And if
Speaker 1: they if they were expecting an onside kick, that means
Speaker 1: he had no blockers. And in that kind of weather,
Speaker 1: my thought is, yes, feel the ball so it doesn't
Speaker 1: go any farther and just go down, just take a knee.
Speaker 1: That's fine, We'll take the ball at that point. To me,
Speaker 1: that's the right decision, right. Did you see that? Though?
Speaker 1: The reaction of his teammates and the coaches, I mean nope,
Speaker 1: nobody understood what that was about. And then go back
Speaker 1: and listen to it. Troy Aikman was like, what is
Speaker 1: going on there? I mean like, and I was watching
Speaker 1: it and I was just like, what are you doing? Like,
Speaker 1: I get it. You know, you don't think that Whitton
Speaker 1: and Hannah are gonna be, you know, blocking for you.
Speaker 1: But I mean I think you're down. I mean you're
Speaker 1: up six, You're you're gonna be starting at your own,
Speaker 1: what fifteen yard line? But with no blocker? Do you
Speaker 1: want him really running and risking the chance that two
Speaker 1: guys hit him, ball comes loose. You're only only up
Speaker 1: by six, Yeah, that could be a game changing type scenario.
Speaker 1: I'd much rather just say, take the ball when you
Speaker 1: get it, and let's see if nothing else, take some
Speaker 1: time off the clock. Right Rears the guy that has
Speaker 1: me pretty upset right now, very upset. Oh yeah you
Speaker 1: know that one, right, Yeah, I get it. Okay, yes,
Speaker 1: all right, But the point is he, honestly, for a
Speaker 1: guy that's as cocky as he is, he is pretty cocky.
Speaker 1: And when you see when you're like that, you better
Speaker 1: live up to it and have a reason to back
Speaker 1: up your cockiness. Right. Well, with that being said, the
Speaker 1: fact that how he played special teams, it upsets me
Speaker 1: when he's playing offense and you see him in motion
Speaker 1: and you see him so active and running around the field,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And then when he got when he
Speaker 1: has the chance to have the ball in his hand,
Speaker 1: he doesn't do anything. He doesn't apply that same kind
Speaker 1: of effort as to when he doesn't even have the
Speaker 1: ball in his hands. But are we confusing effort with results?
Speaker 1: Like it's one thing to say when he gets the
Speaker 1: ball in his hands, he doesn't end up making any plays.
Speaker 1: I don't know if i'd call it effort though, right
Speaker 1: I would. Well, I don't like to question guys effort levels.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the NFL. If you don't, if
Speaker 1: you're not. I just feel like he loses his confidence
Speaker 1: when he has the ball in his hands. He doesn't
Speaker 1: react the same way. Obviously, and again that's not me
Speaker 1: playing in there. I'm sure it's a whole different feel
Speaker 1: and obviously no idea what it's like. But from what
Speaker 1: I've seen so far is it just seems like, okay,
Speaker 1: when he gets the opportunity to have the ball in
Speaker 1: his hands, he doesn't actually do anything. When when he
Speaker 1: was when he fumbled against the Rams a few weeks ago,
Speaker 1: changed that whole game. He comes back and says, you
Speaker 1: know that's not going to change me I'm still gonna
Speaker 1: do what I do and all that. But he did.
Speaker 1: But I think to your point, he didn't really play
Speaker 1: like that yesterday. Now was if the rain was a factor,
Speaker 1: maybe so, But there was times when it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: catch the ball, and he didn't because he'd rather he
Speaker 1: wasn't confident that he could catch it. And you know,
Speaker 1: we'll see if that happens again. If it happens when
Speaker 1: it's a bright sunny day in San Francisco, then we
Speaker 1: have an issue problem. Yeah, but he's probably getting yelled
Speaker 1: out in his head about don't don't make a mistake here,
Speaker 1: and he's playing like that. But you know, I think,
Speaker 1: and I think this is part of the issue. When
Speaker 1: you get somebody that everybody's talking about on draft day, um,
Speaker 1: then people create these expectations in their minds of what
Speaker 1: he's going to be immediately, and looking at the way
Speaker 1: the rookies played last year, you think, oh, well, this
Speaker 1: guy's going to contribute immediately. That doesn't mean he's a
Speaker 1: bad player, because he's right now not making plays and
Speaker 1: I wouldn't question his effort. I just think right now,
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, in return game, he hasn't been able
Speaker 1: to really show you much as far as his abilities
Speaker 1: to make plays, Now, maybe that means he can't do it.
Speaker 1: Maybe it means he's just gonna take a little while
Speaker 1: for him to develop into playing in the NFL and
Speaker 1: being able to really make those yea. And I think
Speaker 1: the cockiness has a factor in it, at least for me.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, Okay, if you're playing like this, quit
Speaker 1: being cocky. Come on, learn from Zeke a little bit.
Speaker 1: Zeke has, you know, calm down a little. I'm saying down,
Speaker 1: and here's here's the thing. And I think I think
Speaker 1: you're right. You know, you draft a guy in the
Speaker 1: first four rounds to be you know, you talk about
Speaker 1: him like replacing Dunbar and all this stuff, and the
Speaker 1: expectations get pushed up. I'm not asking you to make plays.
Speaker 1: I don't judge him that way. I really don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not worried by you know, I don't think he's
Speaker 1: a bust. I'm not worried by the type of impact
Speaker 1: he's making. I do expect you to catch the punt
Speaker 1: and save the offense twenty five yards of fuel position
Speaker 1: on a rainy day when you know it's hard to
Speaker 1: move the ball. I'm not asking you to break it
Speaker 1: for a touchdown. I'm just asking you to catch it.
Speaker 1: That's really all I want. And it wasn't happening for him. Yes,
Speaker 1: it was just like I said, I've never done that before.
Speaker 1: I'm sure the rain plays a factor. I get all that,
Speaker 1: but just there he had two or three decisions where
Speaker 1: I was just like, I've never seen somebody do that.
Speaker 1: What's going on? At about four in the morning, I'm
Speaker 1: still trying to think about going to sleep, and I
Speaker 1: thought about that play and I thought I should get up,
Speaker 1: go back to my computer, change my five point five
Speaker 1: plays story because I left one out and I felt
Speaker 1: really bad for it. But the play where the penalty
Speaker 1: that changed that. When the ball was rolled out he
Speaker 1: didn't catch it. It rolls down to like the thirteen
Speaker 1: yard line, and then there's a penalty. They make him
Speaker 1: rekick and they get the ball. It's thirty yards a
Speaker 1: field position. They go down and get a field goal.
Speaker 1: It was really upset that I didn't put that in
Speaker 1: the five place. You and Nicky both just need to
Speaker 1: go to bed. I feel like like I went I
Speaker 1: got home and went straight to bed, and your bed
Speaker 1: about two I watched the whole game again. No, oh,
Speaker 1: come on, no, come in and do that on Monday
Speaker 1: with broad est, Like that's what I do. That's the
Speaker 1: difference though, I mean, that's just I don't come in earlier.
Speaker 1: I get to do it at night, or I got
Speaker 1: here at nine twenty six. I mean it's all the same. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you have stats and I don't. But I watched
Speaker 1: the game the last thing, I mean, the last thing
Speaker 1: I want to do. Yeah, I got in bed at
Speaker 1: about two and I didn't want to think about football
Speaker 1: for like at least a few hours. All right, let's
Speaker 1: take our final break, let's come back. Let's get some
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Speaker 1: final segment of the great we're talking about the Cowboys
Speaker 1: big win versus the Washington Redskins. They moved four and
Speaker 1: three on the season. Right now, The interesting part is,
Speaker 1: although they've played well these last two weeks, Cowboys still
Speaker 1: are not as of this week, still are not in
Speaker 1: the top six teams in the NFC. They still got
Speaker 1: a little ways to go, just one game out from
Speaker 1: from those wildcard spots. Two wildcard teams with better records
Speaker 1: right now, wild cards right now, or whoever's in the
Speaker 1: second in the West, And yes, I looked it up.
Speaker 1: Last night's probably the Panther was the South. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it was Panthers the North. No, Green Bay second
Speaker 1: in North, they're four and three, same as the cow
Speaker 1: would be the Panthers. And whoever's second in the West
Speaker 1: train right, And so the Cowboys one game out of
Speaker 1: the out of that part of out of the wildcart
Speaker 1: wildcard teams at this point. But the good part is
Speaker 1: that the season so much in front of them. All
Speaker 1: these teams that are right there in that mixture are
Speaker 1: all kind of on the Cowboys schedule going down straight.
Speaker 1: You got Atlanta, You've got Seattle, UM, They've got obviously
Speaker 1: the division games left, you got two games against Philly.
Speaker 1: They got enough games that they can that they can
Speaker 1: ser certainly put themselves right in position to maybe even
Speaker 1: win the division. They're not out of this thing yet
Speaker 1: with almost half of the season, don't well, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know this isn't college football where you need style points.
Speaker 1: I mean, they've won four games. I don't believe any
Speaker 1: of the four or against the team with a winning record,
Speaker 1: but you know, nope, Wow, But you have a chance
Speaker 1: to change that because I have a good film. The
Speaker 1: Chiefs will have a winning record when they come to town,
Speaker 1: uh this week. So you know, Denver tonight, right, And
Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't matter you play who you play.
Speaker 1: And sometimes I've always thought that that's kind of a
Speaker 1: stupid stat especially early on, because you know, if it
Speaker 1: wasn't for you beating them, they might have a winning record.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're contributing to that. So um. But I
Speaker 1: what my point to that is is that do we
Speaker 1: think this team is really good? Well we'll see. I
Speaker 1: mean they've lost to your team, the Rams, who Rams
Speaker 1: now are looking pretty good. They're like you said, they
Speaker 1: get Philly twice these next three games. I mean, this
Speaker 1: probably the toughest stretch that anybody has. Chiefs at home
Speaker 1: at Atlanta, Eagle at home. I mean, it's good luck, quick,
Speaker 1: good teams. Quick note for all the woe is Me
Speaker 1: type of Cowboy fans. This will be the second week
Speaker 1: in a row that Dallas gets an opponent on short rest.
Speaker 1: Redskins and Chiefs both played Monday night the week before
Speaker 1: they played the Cowboys. So you know, I don't think
Speaker 1: the league's out to screw you. I said that Robs
Speaker 1: happened last night. Rob said, do you think the whole
Speaker 1: Chief's offensive lineing is gonna get hurt? Yeah? I doubt it.
Speaker 1: It ain't just about risk, it's about injuries. To me,
Speaker 1: that that, to me, was a story of that game
Speaker 1: that in the rain was that was the storyline. But
Speaker 1: they played a division team, you know, on the road,
Speaker 1: and the Eagles Redskins. I mean that's a rivalry as well.
Speaker 1: And you know what, the Chiefs are the same thing.
Speaker 1: They're gonna go up and there at home. But they
Speaker 1: faced Denver and you know, I'm sure that that's probably
Speaker 1: a real physical game as well. So is the Redskins
Speaker 1: went into the Eagles game with injuries on the offensive line.
Speaker 1: The guys that were playing went into the game hurt
Speaker 1: and then got hurt again. So it was like they
Speaker 1: just had everything just went wrong for them. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if you expect the same thing out of
Speaker 1: Kansas City, but it is one of those things where
Speaker 1: a short week, short week, to me, is way more
Speaker 1: about recuperation and injuries than it is about just being tired.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I think it's it's it can you turn
Speaker 1: your body around when you got when you're nicked up
Speaker 1: and those kinds of things on the short I actually
Speaker 1: give the Redskins some credit for what they did. I mean,
Speaker 1: they were functional. I mean, they had the ball, they
Speaker 1: had a chance to go drive and win the game,
Speaker 1: and they you know, they had guys planned for them
Speaker 1: that were signed early or late in the week. I mean,
Speaker 1: so Bill Callahan who was here obviously with the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: and he did a really nice job with that old
Speaker 1: line and yeah to I mean to Derek's point. Before
Speaker 1: before the rain really started, it got sloppy. You know,
Speaker 1: people were blowing me up like we can't get pressure
Speaker 1: on these guys they signed three days ago, like DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence can't beat Morgan Moses with no ankles, blah blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. I mean yeah, so, I mean I don't
Speaker 1: know that the Cowboys would have lost that game, but
Speaker 1: I think it would have been much different king had
Speaker 1: it stayed dryer. This defensive front, as I think probably
Speaker 1: most defensive fronts in the league are, unless they're just exceptional,
Speaker 1: is they play really well and they can get those
Speaker 1: those big moments when they know what the other team
Speaker 1: is doing, When you force the other team into situations
Speaker 1: where they have to throw the ball, then you can
Speaker 1: just really go get the quarterback and you don't have
Speaker 1: to worry about pass run. There were some moments in
Speaker 1: that game last night, Like I said early in the game,
Speaker 1: there were some moments there where you were wondering how
Speaker 1: good this defense was gonna be able to be even
Speaker 1: against the banged up offensive line, really against a second
Speaker 1: team offensive line, because there were moments when Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: had a lot of time. There were moments when Chris
Speaker 1: Chris Thompson had some nice runs like you know that
Speaker 1: Nick when when when Rob Kelly went out for a second,
Speaker 1: I was like, well that didn't really matter. I kind
Speaker 1: of won him back in because I think I want
Speaker 1: him running versus Chris Thompson. But Chris Thompson had some
Speaker 1: nice runs even against you know, running up the middle.
Speaker 1: So I just think the weather played a huge factor
Speaker 1: in that game. I don't know if we would have
Speaker 1: seen the same outcome if it wouldn't have been for
Speaker 1: the weather. I love the way that this game turned,
Speaker 1: like when the Cowboys really get control of a game,
Speaker 1: the way they want to double digit lead a lot
Speaker 1: of runs. It's funny the way it turns because I'm like,
Speaker 1: when you said Chris Thompson, I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: did he do anything? Eight catches, seventy six yards, twenty
Speaker 1: rushing yard, Like, yeah, it's a moment to one hundred
Speaker 1: all purpose yards of a long run of sixteen and
Speaker 1: a long catch of twenty six, Like, he definitely had
Speaker 1: some moments, but after about halftime, it just didn't seem
Speaker 1: like it mattered because their offense. I think because of
Speaker 1: the rain and the way their offense runs. When they
Speaker 1: when their passing game became when it became when the
Speaker 1: weather became something that made passing prohibitive, then it changed
Speaker 1: the whole complexion of the game for them. And I
Speaker 1: think you had it not happened like that, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying the Cowboys couldn't have won the game. I think
Speaker 1: it would have been a much different style of game, though,
Speaker 1: I think there would have been a ton of scoring
Speaker 1: both ways. It probably would have been a lot like
Speaker 1: that Sunday night football game last night between the Texans.
Speaker 1: That was the afternoon game between the Texans and the
Speaker 1: where you got it, going back and forth. Whoever has
Speaker 1: the ball last wins, right, you know, ironically, like several
Speaker 1: times throughout our game yesterday, I was like, man, I
Speaker 1: I was watching that. I know that game was crazy,
Speaker 1: and then you get the good baseball game last night.
Speaker 1: This is sports I'm projecting, like so stupidly far into
Speaker 1: the futures. I mean, Cowboys are not a lock to
Speaker 1: make the playoffs by any stretch of the imagination whatsoever.
Speaker 1: But if they do, I would guess it's as a
Speaker 1: wild card. And you know, that's really encouraging that you're
Speaker 1: built to play that type of football, like winning winning
Speaker 1: a game like this, I mean, if you've got to
Speaker 1: go to Seattle or somewhere cold or miserable in January. Although,
Speaker 1: like now, what I'm thinking about it, most of the
Speaker 1: teams in the playoff picture play indoors or in nicer climates,
Speaker 1: but still, I mean it's I mean, that's the type
Speaker 1: of football that travels, and that's nice to know if
Speaker 1: this is billy even like yeah, as a city that
Speaker 1: has inclement Billy Charlotte, Seattle, LA. Probably not so much. Whatever,
Speaker 1: but you can take that with you if you do
Speaker 1: have to play a road playoff game. Yep, let's get
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Speaker 1: with a question from Twitter. Well, I think had the
Speaker 1: Cowboys lost this game, we would probably be talking about
Speaker 1: all the penalties they had. So what are y'all's concerned
Speaker 1: in regards to this, especially with the players such as
Speaker 1: Tyron Smith. Yeah, I mean Tyron Smith had three penalties,
Speaker 1: two holdings and in a false start and at least
Speaker 1: one of them I thought was bogus. But go ahead,
Speaker 1: Yeah I thought a touchdown, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought
Speaker 1: it was very kind of needed that touchdown to pancake ish,
Speaker 1: like I thought he was kind of smashing the guy.
Speaker 1: But anyways, it's uncharacteristic at a him, and you know
Speaker 1: that That's where I think maybe we need to just
Speaker 1: see if we chalk that up to the weather as well.
Speaker 1: You know, it's hard to get your you know, hands
Speaker 1: on guys that to block everybody's you know that Jersey's
Speaker 1: a wet hands wet you know, maybe it just leads
Speaker 1: to a little bit more of those holding penalties. So
Speaker 1: we'll see. Tyren Smith's resume speaks for itself. And so
Speaker 1: I don't know if I should we should sit here
Speaker 1: and say we should be concerned about it. Well, what
Speaker 1: about the other guys? Well, well this is the this
Speaker 1: is a conversation we have in the press box all
Speaker 1: the time. Jason Witten is good for a penalty of
Speaker 1: some sort just about every game. I mean, one way
Speaker 1: or that. He had a holding yesterday. Sometimes it's a
Speaker 1: false start, whatever, You let those things go because the
Speaker 1: resume far exceeds you know, the infraction, and that that
Speaker 1: goes for Tyrn Smith. I mean, that's that's the most
Speaker 1: Tyrannt Smith has been penalized in a game in the
Speaker 1: five years I've been covering this team. And it was
Speaker 1: in a monsoon against a team with good pass rushers
Speaker 1: Preston Smith and Ryan Kerrigan. So not a great day
Speaker 1: for him by any stretch. But I'm not worried about it.
Speaker 1: Lyle Collins probably a little more concerning, um, you know,
Speaker 1: I think I even said leading into that game, you know,
Speaker 1: if you can handle Von Miller and those type of
Speaker 1: guys as well as Lyle has, then you know, you'd
Speaker 1: think you can handle Ryan Kerrigan. Ryan Karragan whooped him
Speaker 1: up a little bit, especially in the early going when
Speaker 1: the game was closer. So you know, not not great,
Speaker 1: but you got out of it and you ran for
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty nine yards. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: if you watch the tape and try to improve, if
Speaker 1: you took the numbers off and then numbers and names
Speaker 1: off of the guys and just kind of evaluated this
Speaker 1: this offensive line for the last I don't know, three
Speaker 1: or four weeks since it's been, since it's been this lineup,
Speaker 1: I mean, I would think that Tyran still has probably
Speaker 1: been your best guy. I mean, he he locks it down.
Speaker 1: He didn't get beat much. And if it's not if
Speaker 1: not Zack Martin, but Cooper is up there. Especially yesterday,
Speaker 1: I thought Jonathan Cooper he had a holding too though,
Speaker 1: just yeah he did, he did, he had a holding.
Speaker 1: But I mean when you when you watch him play
Speaker 1: and watches that touchdown run, I mean he he is
Speaker 1: the best guy on the line on that touchdown run
Speaker 1: where it was just wide open. He just mauls his
Speaker 1: guy and he is playing like the like the first
Speaker 1: round pick. I mean, he's starting to do that. And
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of what we talked about before.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you get surrounded by greatness. You know.
Speaker 1: Eric's like a proud dad over here, like yeah, just
Speaker 1: like he is. No, no, no, Honestly, I think we
Speaker 1: were talking about it on the show, even back to
Speaker 1: training camp of man, what would it look like if
Speaker 1: you could get this guy to play up to the
Speaker 1: potential of where he was drafted and maybe getting him
Speaker 1: around other guys who would drafted in the similar timeframe
Speaker 1: and similar picks. Maybe that does it. Maybe that gets
Speaker 1: and then if you can get there, now you've really
Speaker 1: hit I mean you've hit on that on that position,
Speaker 1: and you've hit on a position and where you think
Speaker 1: you can kind of sustain it a little bit because hey,
Speaker 1: I mean it's not that expensive to have him here,
Speaker 1: you know, and give what we talked about free agency
Speaker 1: and how this you know, the actual you know, last
Speaker 1: two years that hasn't been good really and just veteran
Speaker 1: free agency, but the force site to say, you know
Speaker 1: what let's get Cooper here. Let's see if if maybe
Speaker 1: next year, because they did that last year, they kept him,
Speaker 1: they resigned him. They thought, well, let's give him a
Speaker 1: chance to let him be here all offseason. And it's
Speaker 1: paying off, just like what they did when they took
Speaker 1: a six seven defensive end off the Chiefs practice squad,
Speaker 1: you know. And and he's David Irvy so which, by
Speaker 1: the way, that just reminded me. It's this will be
Speaker 1: a really good week to have a feature on him
Speaker 1: if he's playing the Chiefs really yeah, good idea. His
Speaker 1: college team's playing pretty well too. I was staying, he said,
Speaker 1: he told me before he put on whatever he was wearing.
Speaker 1: What was that? That's Chester, Chester Chester, He's named it.
Speaker 1: What is it? The Fox? The Fox? Okay, I just
Speaker 1: he like I'm talking to him in the locker room,
Speaker 1: and had a lion on his back. Yeah, as as
Speaker 1: a lion backpack. David's got Chester the Fox. What is
Speaker 1: Dez wearing on his head on the Yeah, he's got
Speaker 1: the the George Costanza hat. Yeah, it's anyways, all kinds
Speaker 1: of animals, and we're talking about going to the zoo.
Speaker 1: Nugent probably thought he was back there seeing Irving, but
Speaker 1: Irving said it was biggle smile. He's like, this is
Speaker 1: a good weekend for me. He's like, my team beat
Speaker 1: TCU and we won the game, so this was a
Speaker 1: really big weekend. He's like, just he's the best life.
Speaker 1: Is such a friendly, just unassuming dude who has to
Speaker 1: be good at terrorizing quarterbacks and would never do that
Speaker 1: in his normal life. Like he doesn't seem like he
Speaker 1: has the personality to terrorize anybody at all. But yeah,
Speaker 1: well you might get to know Mass this week. Might
Speaker 1: got to know Mass about him. Hey, by the way,
Speaker 1: you know, just to mention, you mentioned that, But I
Speaker 1: don't know if how many people have saw that. Last
Speaker 1: week he put out a brand new show that a
Speaker 1: Ambers and Amber and Rob are hosting called No Mass,
Speaker 1: with the idea being that it's kind of an opportunity
Speaker 1: for you guys to get to know players a little closer.
Speaker 1: And uh, and I thought, it's a really good show.
Speaker 1: It's a fun show. Tell people what it's about, just
Speaker 1: so they have an idea and they can go check
Speaker 1: it out. It's on the website right now. What's it about. Well,
Speaker 1: it's basically kind of like a trivia game where you
Speaker 1: get to guess what the player's answer is. So so
Speaker 1: far we've been having a player as a guest on
Speaker 1: the studio in the studio and they try to guess
Speaker 1: what their teammate teammate answers are. Now we have this
Speaker 1: one coming up that might be Irvin again and against
Speaker 1: Rob playing guessing what the Marcus Lawrence is saying. And
Speaker 1: that one turned out pretty funny, pretty hilarious. I was saying,
Speaker 1: let me just change it, and it's not because it's
Speaker 1: our show, in my show or whatever. It's hilarious. It
Speaker 1: was very It was kind of crappy. Actually, you guys
Speaker 1: will have to watch it. Yeah, it was good, but
Speaker 1: just to give you guys a clearer picture even than that,
Speaker 1: it's basically, you ask a player or a question and
Speaker 1: then you stop it stop the video of him get
Speaker 1: before he can give an answer, and you ask the
Speaker 1: two contestants what do you think his answer was? You
Speaker 1: give him multiple choice and then they say, I think
Speaker 1: it was this. In that first episode, one of the
Speaker 1: funniest moments was asking about Jalen Smith and what he
Speaker 1: One of the things that people wouldn't know about him,
Speaker 1: I think was the question and I just will say
Speaker 1: door the door the Explorer was included in his answer,
Speaker 1: and it was pretty funny. So it's that kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: really cool concept. You guys are doing a really good job.
Speaker 1: Rob had no chance trying to go up against Rod
Speaker 1: Smith trying to guess the answers of Jalen. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: he's like, literally, I've seen this in his house, Like
Speaker 1: I know that's yeah, yeah, Rob's not gonna get that.
Speaker 1: All right, guys, appreciate ahead. I was just gonna say,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm pretty pleased with how it's turning out
Speaker 1: just because of how open these players have been so
Speaker 1: far and just finding out some of the things that
Speaker 1: you would never think or expect from them. So check
Speaker 1: it out and hope you guys enjoy it. It's called
Speaker 1: No Moss. That's k n o W as in no
Speaker 1: Get to Know Moss. Check that out on the website.
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