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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast from the Volume Network.

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Speaker 1: I am Chad Millman. We are still deep, deep, deep

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Speaker 1: in the heart of the NBA Playoffs, and I gotta

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Speaker 1: admit the other night, our collective boss at the Volume Network,

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Speaker 1: Mr Colin Cowherd, held me at this podcast. Uh. We

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Speaker 1: were discussing the Memphis Grizzlies as four and a half

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Speaker 1: point underdogs to the Warriors in the final playing game

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Speaker 1: for the grizz to get that a spot, and Colin

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Speaker 1: was convinced he should go with the Grizzlies. And I'm

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Speaker 1: like to, did you see how well the Warriors played

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Speaker 1: the Lakers? And they Lakers were at full strength and

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Speaker 1: the Warriors are playing with you know, uh, Steph Curry

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Speaker 1: and Wan Tiscano Anderson and Jordan's Pool and they matched

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Speaker 1: him step for step. Of course you're gonna take the

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Speaker 1: Warriors at four and a half. Of course, the Warriors

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Speaker 1: didn't cover a four and a half. I've been feeling

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Speaker 1: guilty about that ever since. But the playoffs up until recently, Uh,

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Speaker 1: this last game, it's Tuesday afternoon, Monday night. The games

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Speaker 1: were blowouts, but there are some really fun games over

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Speaker 1: the weekend. I am going to discuss the NBA Playoffs

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Speaker 1: with contributor Brandon Anderson, one of our podcast regulars for

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Speaker 1: the Action Network. NBA podcast with Michael Walton recent Thursday,

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Speaker 1: Thunderdome champion, basketball obsessive fellow Chicagoan host of his own

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Speaker 1: Chicago Bulls podcast. After that, Mike Leeboff is gonna come on.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna continue his love affair with my co host,

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Speaker 1: Simon Hunter. We're gonna talk NHL. But first my b yff,

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Speaker 1: my companion, cryptocurrency gazillionaire. Down to one house, still looking

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Speaker 1: for love, Simon Hunter, my brother. All facts, Chad, how

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Speaker 1: do you not listen anything? I teach you? Bad Memphis

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Speaker 1: game again, Chad, don't watch the games, just will watch it.

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Speaker 1: You watch the numbers. That game literally was plus five

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Speaker 1: even though eight of the money was coming on the Warriors.

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Speaker 1: It bumped down to four and a half. I mean,

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Speaker 1: do I need to say more? Chad? That was a

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Speaker 1: layup bet in that Memphis game. So it's heartbreaking here

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Speaker 1: you're on the other side of that one. I make

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Speaker 1: bad decisions all the time. Anyone who has ever listened

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Speaker 1: to this podcast knows throughout the year I will make

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Speaker 1: impossibly bad decisions, and not only that, I have a

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Speaker 1: gift for convincing everybody that it is the right decision.

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Speaker 1: There's a video right now that was just posted that

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Speaker 1: one of our video producers, Barbara Albert's, put together. That

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Speaker 1: is me making bad dad jokes on our NBA show

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Speaker 1: heat Check that we do twice a week. I usually

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Speaker 1: do it with Justin Fan and Preston Johnson a k

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Speaker 1: A Sports Cheetah. Throughout the show, I will end up

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Speaker 1: making some joke and they are such in their heads

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Speaker 1: NBA geeks Fan especially Uh, they don't respond. Ever, it

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Speaker 1: just goes right over their heads. That is one of

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Speaker 1: the gifts that dads have. The other gift that dads have,

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Speaker 1: this is the equivalent of dad strength is being able

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Speaker 1: to answer authoritatively about anything, no matter how wrong you are.

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Speaker 1: It's truly a gift. I just couldn't believe you didn't

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Speaker 1: open up the action app. If you just open it up,

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Speaker 1: you would have saw all those signals right there. But hey, Chad,

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Speaker 1: what can you do? You're I'm like you, all of

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Speaker 1: us have to grind to get our winnings. You you

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Speaker 1: can just open uh open up on cow Heard show

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Speaker 1: and just say no don't take Memphis. So that's just

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Speaker 1: how it goes. That's what I do. That's what I do.

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Speaker 1: I just go against the grain when the grain is

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Speaker 1: going with me. You know what I'm saying. You gotta

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Speaker 1: unpack that for a second. Simon, how are you doing?

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Speaker 1: How how's everything been? Are you getting positive feedback about

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Speaker 1: your love life? I just want to make sure we're

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Speaker 1: updating people on that. Yeah, I um actually finally sold

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Speaker 1: some stock. Uh. The basically the guy who predicted the

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Speaker 1: now stockwise, Michael Brin's his name. He was the subject

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Speaker 1: of the book The Big Short, also played by Christian

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Speaker 1: Bale in the movie The Big Short, to widespread acclaim,

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Speaker 1: guy's a legend. He's never wrong everything he does, He's

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Speaker 1: always a step ahead. So I basically was heavy best

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Speaker 1: of them. So I've dumped all of it and I

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Speaker 1: went and bought a Beamer. I bought a BMW Boy,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, took Tesla money that I made in stock market.

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Speaker 1: it's definitely I'm in a weird time right now. Chad,

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Speaker 1: did you Oh my God, it's like you're having a

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Speaker 1: midlife crisis because because you got dumped and like you

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Speaker 1: gonna start back focused. What kind of BMB? Did you

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Speaker 1: So it's like a it's a bigger car for like

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Speaker 1: did you buy it? Chat? Cash bro cash cash? You

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Speaker 1: you walked up to the dealer and did you look around?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you realize this yet. Chat, I'm

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Speaker 1: overhill sign. I'm gonna do something. I study it until

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Speaker 1: there's nothing left. So I've probably been on this car

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Speaker 1: for like three months. Basically all I do is haggle,

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Speaker 1: like I have nothing to do to call up dealerships,

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Speaker 1: and I just bullshit these guys for about twenty minutes,

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Speaker 1: broke a guy's spirit after three months of torturing this

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Speaker 1: finally hit me up. A guy up in North Jery's

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Speaker 1: I went up there, No no check or anything like that,

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Speaker 1: pretty much took like usually it takes like two three hours.

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Speaker 1: Got a car, it took about thirty months. You had

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Speaker 1: cash in a book back. You just want how much

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Speaker 1: did how much? How much did the car cost? Chad?

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Speaker 1: So much personal info after taxes? I think it was

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Speaker 1: like thirty one And so was it heavy to carry

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Speaker 1: a book back? No, no, it's it's I mean, I'll

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Speaker 1: not as asn't much money as you think when it's

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Speaker 1: and just being like, you know, buying her right now,

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Speaker 1: but driving around with that cash in my car in

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Speaker 1: deal got done. Well. Listen. I I knew a guy

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Speaker 1: a young guy, young guy younger than me, still much

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Speaker 1: So he drove me to the airport and we get

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Speaker 1: Um after he dropped me off, and I'm just like,

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Speaker 1: his money on the bedding. That's always thinking about. No, Honestly,

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Speaker 1: that's a pro move. I have a burner car to

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Speaker 1: an old Chevy Cobalt. That's the only car I drive.

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Speaker 1: The sports books like, I've never been followed. I've never

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Speaker 1: been followed into our sports book. I've never been followed

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Speaker 1: outside of a sports book. Anyone listening. If you're gonna

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Speaker 1: people's jobs that are to rob you. So I love

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Speaker 1: where that guy said that, just drive a burner car. Dude,

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Speaker 1: you just blew my mind with that level of inside information.

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Speaker 1: That is some of the coolest That's like a note

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Speaker 1: Let's get to some NBA games. We got two experts,

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Speaker 1: two guys I love. They've been doing great work all

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Speaker 1: season long. Like I said, Brandon Anderson, contributed to Action

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Speaker 1: covers the news desk for US also knows the NBA.

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Speaker 1: The champion, that's right, he's the champion of the Thunderdome.

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Speaker 1: Knows the NBA as well as anybody. Fellas Brandon, let

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Speaker 1: opening round, Lakers, Clippers, Nuggets, three favorites, lose the first

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Speaker 1: it's the Sun's and this is what happens when the

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Speaker 1: pressure on them. Um, the Blazers Nuggets series is really fascinating.

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Speaker 1: team just based around one superstar that they cannot have

426
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Speaker 1: hot nights, like different guys, different shooters. But in a

427
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Speaker 1: seven game series, usually the best team is gonna win out.

428
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Speaker 1: So I feel like there's gonna be good value on

429
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 1: the Clippers here going into the game, too overreaction Brandon

430
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 1: in the West, Yeah, so, I I love that. If

431
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Speaker 1: there is a team that you are irrationally certain of

432
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 1: in the West, now is the time, Like now is

433
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Speaker 1: the time to grab their odds because they're all down

434
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Speaker 1: and they're serious, Like you're getting better odds right now

435
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Speaker 1: than you were three days ago. To me, what I saw,

436
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 1: I have. I have doubted the this version of the

437
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Clippers all season. I just don't believe in

438
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Speaker 1: what I'm seeing out there. It's a team. When you

439
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Speaker 1: look at the matricks, you see a team that looks

440
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: like good or pretty good, but makes every shot. They

441
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 1: led the league in prepoint shooting percentage, they led the

442
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: league in free throw percentage. They just make everything. And

443
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 1: that's really great and it's a very good skill to

444
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 1: have in the playoffs until you don't have it in

445
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: the playoffs anymore. And we saw what happened against the

446
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,439
Speaker 1: Nuggets last year. Three games Neurow when the shots didn't fall,

447
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 1: And we saw in Game one the shots didn't fall.

448
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: The Mavericks shots fell to make her Misleague and suddenly

449
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: they're down oh one. And I don't think that that's

450
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 1: doomsday for the Clippers by any means. But the team

451
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: that we saw last year, they're the big deal was

452
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: they replaced Montraz Hail. They got Sergebaka. Now I could

453
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,159
Speaker 1: played thirteen minutes in Game one like he's a non factor.

454
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 1: He's not healthy right now. Oh, they went out and

455
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 1: got Ragon Roundell. They got got a real point guard.

456
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Speaker 1: Now Roundell is part of a three headed point guard

457
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Speaker 1: with Patrick Beverley and Reggie Jackson. Reggie Jackson is playing

458
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Speaker 1: real playoff minutes right now. I don't feel like they've

459
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Speaker 1: found the answers. I don't think they're going to go away.

460
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Speaker 1: They're a team that absolutely can beat anyone. They're a

461
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: team that's set up to beat the Lakers if they

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Speaker 1: get there, but they put themselves the other side of

463
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Speaker 1: the bracket, they might not actually get there to face

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Speaker 1: the Lakers. At this point, I just to me, the

465
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Speaker 1: Clippers are two high variants of a team for me

466
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Speaker 1: to believe in. They can beat anyone, any night when

467
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Speaker 1: the shops are falling like they can. But if they don't,

468
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Speaker 1: I just don't see enough Plan B or Plan CS.

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Speaker 1: And I think if they do make a run, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of Game sixes and Game seven's,

471
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Speaker 1: and they're gonna have just a pile up of attrition.

472
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Speaker 1: And that's Kauai, Leonard and Paul George who don't like

473
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Speaker 1: to play in long series of long playoff runs. I

474
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Speaker 1: just can't buy the Clippers. What I saw in game

475
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Speaker 1: one is the same fear as I've had all season

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Speaker 1: on them. All right, So Brandon, his overreaction response is

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Speaker 1: buy in on the Clippers. Simon's overreaction response is buying

478
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Speaker 1: in the Clippers. Michael, I want your overreaction response to

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Speaker 1: the West, but I want you to spend very little

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Speaker 1: time on it because I want to talk about the East. Alright. Awesome,

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Speaker 1: Well that will be very easy, because for once I

482
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Speaker 1: was actually shocked. Me and Brandon are sort of aligned

483
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Speaker 1: in our thought here. Um So I am not buying

484
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Speaker 1: the Clippers, and that's just because I'm a Clippers hater.

485
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Speaker 1: I'm never buying the Clippers. Um I. My overreaction is

486
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Speaker 1: by the Mavericks. To make the NBA Finals. Um, pretty

487
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: big overreaction. But when I look at the way the

488
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Speaker 1: bracket broke, Um, I like the roster. Kristops porzingis who

489
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 1: I you know, hate on a lot, shot one for

490
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Speaker 1: five from three and didn't play well. And the Mavericks

491
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Speaker 1: still beat the Clippers, So that's something to think about.

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Speaker 1: And if they go on and win the series, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna get the winner of the Grizzlies Jazz series. Uh,

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Speaker 1: And I think they stand a pretty good chance in

495
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Speaker 1: that series as well. So from there, I think the

496
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Speaker 1: they are gonna be waiting on either the tired Suns

497
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: or tired Lakers. And I like Lucas chances, so um,

498
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Speaker 1: I think Lucas gonna be the best player and a

499
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: lot of series Underratedly I would buy Maths futures. So

500
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Speaker 1: man Mitchelly, he always sends us notes for some reason.

501
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 1: He put are the Bucks back back back from? What?

502
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 1: I did not get at all that question? What are

503
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: the Bags back from? So yeah, right, Um, it's one

504
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 1: of those where I'm not I don't like Sure Miami

505
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: they're a good team, YadA YadA YadA, but no one

506
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: really they don't really move the needle. It's really about

507
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: the Bucks versus and Nuts. It feel like this is

508
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: where we're all waiting for. So it's the obvious question.

509
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: And now when you're seeing the Bucks in the playoffs,

510
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Speaker 1: do you really think this team could take it to

511
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Speaker 1: the nets? Michael, you start, yeah, So, Um, the Bucks

512
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: are another one of the teams I'm rationally high on.

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Speaker 1: I think before the start of the playoffs, I bought

514
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Speaker 1: in on a Bucks future to win the title. Um,

515
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: pretty much. It's I think Drew Holiday is maybe not

516
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: an underrated acquisition at this point because everyone talks about

517
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Speaker 1: what an underrated acquisition he is started defeats the purpose,

518
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: but the guy is an excellent player. Um. I think

519
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Speaker 1: when you look at teams in the league, even that

520
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: can guard the nets, they at least have a shot

521
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Speaker 1: because you go, Yanna Son, Katie, you know Drew Holiday

522
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,479
Speaker 1: on Hardener, Kyrie Middleton on the other guy, and so

523
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: I think there's a recipe for success. Brook Lopez is

524
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 1: still a big body, and p J. Tucker, I think,

525
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: is you know, fresher than people realize. After playing for

526
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: the Houston Rockets, we know what a vacation that can be.

527
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: So I think the Bucks just have a lot of

528
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: defensive versatility. Budenholzer annoys me as a playoff coach to

529
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: where he doesn't mix up a strategy is enough, But

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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see him mix it up a

531
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Speaker 1: lot more and a lot more Yannice at center um

532
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: when it matters against a team like the Nets that

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Speaker 1: I don't think are gonna be able to guard Janice

534
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Speaker 1: at all. All Right, So that brings up an interesting point. Uh,

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00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 1: The East to me is just a less interesting matchup

536
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: for the playoffs because it is in a way that

537
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 1: the West isn't top heavy, but East is so top

538
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: heavy with the Sixers, Nets and Box. Brandon Michael clearly

539
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: likes the Box to come out of the East. Uh.

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00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: If you're ranking those three, which one or is it

541
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Speaker 1: someone outside of those three? It's definitely not someone outside

542
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Speaker 1: of those three. The top heavy thing is right that

543
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 1: Sorry sorry to Knicks fans. There's three and then there's

544
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: everyone else and it's just not changing. So to me,

545
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 1: the Nets Box like we're getting that series and that

546
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: right now for me is my NBA Finals. Those are

547
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 1: my two best teams in the entire tournament. The West

548
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 1: is gonna be fun. The Nets and the Bucks are

549
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: the two best teams right now. The Box have answered

550
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: the bells so far. Drew Holiday is not Eric Bledsoe.

551
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: They are playing their stars big minutes. They're hitting their

552
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: shots in Game two, They're looking versatile. They're making a

553
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,959
Speaker 1: few more adjustments than what you know what but has

554
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: done in the past. The Nets are still the nuts.

555
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: They still have We've only seen nine games so far

556
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: from Kevin Durant and James Harden and Kyrie Irving. I

557
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: think we still haven't totally entirely processed just how absurdly

558
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: talented this team is. Like Kyrie Irving just had a

559
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: nine season and is going to be a threat to

560
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: make an All NBA team, and he's easily only the

561
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Speaker 1: third best player on this team. He has a championship

562
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: winning shot, and he's by far the third best player.

563
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: But also then you watch the game and you're like,

564
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: these guys are playing a U ball, Like they don't

565
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: even know how to play basketball right now. They're just

566
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: kind of swinging it around and taking shots, but it

567
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: kind of doesn't matter because they're so good at making

568
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: them all And to me, those teams are just a

569
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: tear above the rest. I have the Nets as the

570
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: title favorite. I have the Nets winning that matchup. I

571
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: just think there's just too much talent to not figure

572
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: it out. I talked before about like seeing the obvious

573
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: in hindsight. I think in hindsight we could look back

574
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, holy cow, Durant and Harden and Kyrie,

575
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: this team was always gonna slaughter everyone. So until I

576
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: see that not happen, I had to take the Nets.

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00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: The Sixers are a clear third to me, and then

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Speaker 1: I don't know, you could pick like the Hornets or

579
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: some body else for fourth after that because they all

580
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: have the same chance from there. Uh controversial. Hot take,

581
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: hot take, hot take. Chris Middleton not that interesting of

582
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: a player to me. Very expensive one though, very expensive,

583
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Speaker 1: and I feel like, if he's going to be one

584
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Speaker 1: of the players who is your go to guys and

585
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: the compliment to Janice along with Holiday, that's not a

586
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: championship caliber team. Yeah. I think that if the Box

587
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: fall to the Nets or if the Bucks don't make

588
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: the finals, I think but has gone probably and I

589
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: think Chris Middleton might be the other fall guy. I

590
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: think he becomes the Kevin Love of that team where

591
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,719
Speaker 1: it's like ah, we gotta blame somebody. We gotta make

592
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: a change. And the problem with Joannice is that, like

593
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: look we saw the other night, it came down to overtime,

594
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: final possession and Janice, the reigning two time MV, is

595
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: not bringing the ball up and not touching the ball

596
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: because that's not his game and has to go to

597
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: Chris Middleton. He may have the shot, he won the game,

598
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: but he might miss the next one, and if he does,

599
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: he's going to be the one taking the plam Michael

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00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: Walton before we go, before we get to Mike Leeboff

601
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: and talk about hockey. Mike Leeboff was a revelation to

602
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: Simon Hunter on the last podcast they had never met.

603
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: Leeboff started talking and Simon just blurted out, I love

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00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: you so before before we get to leave off right now,

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00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: if I'm betting something and I'm listening to this podcast,

606
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: I gotta bet on something. What am I betting? Is

607
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: it a team to win the East? Is it a

608
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: team didn't win the West? Is it a finals matchup?

609
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: Is it a futures play? What am I betting? Brandon,

610
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: You're gonna get that question next, Uh? If you and

611
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: you if you're saying, what are you betting right now?

612
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm listening to a podcast right now. It's

613
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: tough because I feel like I already sort of buried

614
00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: the lead there. I kind of gave it away. But

615
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: I'm all doubling down on the Bucks future to win

616
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: the title. UM, My biggest thing here is just to

617
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: touch on the Brooklyn Nets, soho I think people want

618
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: to hear more about just because they're the exciting team

619
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: that's the title favorite. Um. For their defense, they're relying

620
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: a lot on a very talented young player named Nick Claxton,

621
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: And for me, it's just a prove it thing when

622
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: it's a player that young and it's the postseason and

623
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: so far he's actually done an excellent job and he's

624
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: proved it. But when it comes for me, I'm looking

625
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,479
Speaker 1: at like in the paint defense, and I'm looking at

626
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: brook Lopez and p J. Tucker, two different style fives

627
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: that I know I can do it in the postseason. Uh,

628
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: And then I'm looking at Nick Claxton and DeAndre Jordan

629
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: and whatever the Nets have and I'm still very worried

630
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: about the defense. So I'm gonna say get that that

631
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: Buck's money while you can before Janice makes all of

632
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: us believers. I like it bold move, going against everything

633
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: we are all saying. But that's what the champion of

634
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: the Thunderdome does. Brandon, quickly give me your bed itt

635
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: right now. So right now, what I love I love

636
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: in a series when the team that I like better

637
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: is not the higher seed, meaning that theased start out

638
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: on the road. And I love this round the Atlanta

639
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: Hawks and the Portland Trail Blazers. And part of why

640
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: I love betting the team that is the road team

641
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: is because you get to start out on the road.

642
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: You might steal one of those games, but I loved

643
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: about them winning the series in six. I don't want

644
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: to bet on either one of these teams going to

645
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: a road Game seven and having to win in Madison

646
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: Square Garden with the crowd going crazy at Denver in

647
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: the elevation. I don't want to bet on them in five.

648
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: The series is a little too short for me. It's

649
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: another another road game, Like it's Trey Young gonna go

650
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: close out Spike Lee and shush him in Game five

651
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: at MSG. I don't know. Maybe we saw it, but

652
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to get there yet. Game six that's

653
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: the one. You come home, you get Game six, you

654
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: get those two. Portland I think was four nine plus

655
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: four ninety to win in sixt four the series. But

656
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: it's still three d now Atlantaists, and like plus four

657
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: ten is still plus three hundred right now. So I

658
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: love zeroing in on that game six win and getting

659
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: much better odds on my serious prices rather than something

660
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: of a coin flip. So I'm going to Blazes and

661
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: six and Hots and sex people. Lessons learned in the

662
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: East since Lebron's left. Never take the teams everyone's talking about.

663
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: It just never works out in the East. What do

664
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: we have? We had the Toronto and make a crazy

665
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: run when everyone's talking about the Bucks, everyone's talking about

666
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: the Sixers. The next year we had the Heat making

667
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: run to the finals. What everyone's talking about these other teams.

668
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: So I've learned my lesson and as a Sixers span,

669
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: I could not be happier. No one's talking about the Sixers.

670
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: Take the Sixers. I think it's still plus three hundreds

671
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: certain books to win the East still plus seven hundred

672
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: to win it all. Uh again, if the Nets play

673
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: the Bucks and the series goes six or seven, they

674
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: come to Phildelphia, fild Offia wins the first game they're

675
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: up one. Oh, you'll have a very easy hedge out

676
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: on the nets or the bucks. So to me, I

677
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: just think it's a ton of value right now in

678
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: the sixers. Wow, Simon, you always come in with a

679
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: really smart thing at the very end, which I love

680
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: because you're so spot on. Brandon Anderson read his staff

681
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: on Action network dot Com. Listen to him on the

682
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 1: Action Network podcast. Michael Walton read his stuff on Action

683
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: Network dot Com. Listen to him apparently on all of

684
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: our podcast because now that's like, you know, his side hustle.

685
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: So uh Fellis, thanks so much for both of you

686
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: for joining. We gotta bring in Michael Leboff. Still, I

687
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: don't Michael Leeboff. He runs our hockey coverage. He's the

688
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 1: biggest Islanders fan in the world. He was texting us

689
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: pictures the other day with his first day back at

690
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 1: Nasau Coliseum. Tell me everything that's on your mind right now, Michael.

691
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: I just don't understand the NBA. Still. I was listening

692
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: to that conversation. Everything is so hypothetical in the NBA,

693
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 1: Like everything everything we talk about is stuff that doesn't

694
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: happen or doesn't exist. I just it blows my mind

695
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: that people are so wrapped up in it and we

696
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: should be talking about the NHL. The first round of

697
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: the playoffs have been amazing. Nassau Coliseum was a blast. Yeah,

698
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: I uh, I brown bagged a couple of naturalized tall boys,

699
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: sat in the parking lot and talked with various employees

700
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 1: of the Islanders, some peep some like great Long Island

701
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: dead beats and uh, my friend who's a beat writer

702
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: for the Islanders too, And I mean the Islanders lost

703
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: the game. I was that, which is why I'm wearing

704
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: a different hat right now because that hat that I

705
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: ordered that game is been put away for to the

706
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: next series. But it was. It was amazing. The one

707
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: coliseum story I think this kind of wraps up my

708
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: experience getting back into the barn was that the Islanders

709
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: were down three one going into the third period. They

710
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 1: score two goals to tie it, and then the melee

711
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: that ensued after Islanders tied it up. I've noticed that

712
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: I didn't have a hat on like a couple of

713
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: minutes later, and then I looked at the guy in

714
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: front of me and he was wearing my hat. A

715
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: couple of minutes later, he took off that hat and

716
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 1: realized that is in my hat and he turned around

717
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: and I was like, I was like, yeah, that's mine. Um,

718
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: and he goes, do you know where my hat is?

719
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 1: And I said no, But there was also a blue

720
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: hat in the aisle, so there's a hat over there.

721
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: And he's like, no, that's not mine, but the hat

722
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: that the guy's sitting next to that blue hat is

723
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: I think that's my hat, and then gave me my

724
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: hat back. But it was great. I mean we ended

725
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 1: up in the in this like in the aisle in

726
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: the staircase after the Islanders scored a goal, and that's

727
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: how I lost my hat. Not only the worst story

728
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 1: ever told on a podcast. You think so I was insane.

729
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: I don't has that ever happened to you? I mean,

730
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: you don't sit in like the nosebleeds. I know, you're

731
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: like a courtside or bus guy on like whatever the

732
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: hottest ticket in town. It's like, oh, let's go see

733
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: the Knicks this year because they're good. I like the Knicks. Now, everybody,

734
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: when you're sitting in the gods like that's what it's

735
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: all about like you just end up wearing someone else's clothing.

736
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: Can we unpack this for a second. Number one, talking

737
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: about the NBA hypothetical, this this guy that, blah blah blah.

738
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: How is that any different than hockey? The things that

739
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: matters the most hockey fans are like the games that

740
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: are played, not the like peripheral drama going on in

741
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: the That's fucking bullshit when you when you talk about

742
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 1: it right now during the playoffs, what people are talking

743
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: about in the NBA. Okay, if Chris Paul is healthy,

744
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: this is what's happening on the court. It's no difference

745
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: than if I were to say, if you know, Doug Wilson,

746
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: we're playing without a helmet for the Blackhawks. This is

747
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: what would happen. I disagree with you entirely. I think

748
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 1: that people if you wanted to have a conversation with

749
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: an NBA fan right now, you could just be like,

750
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: should the Hawks get this guy next year to play

751
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: with Trey Young? And then they'll say, yeah, of course,

752
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: and then that conversation will become a thing of like, well,

753
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: it's Trey Young better than whoever else is good in

754
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: the NBA. All of a sudden, the Nets had some

755
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: guys that were like on a different team in the

756
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: middle of the year. They're just like I want to

757
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: go play for the Nets and they were allowed to

758
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: do that, and like that's that to me is just

759
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: not fairer, right, But whatever? And then I was listening

760
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: they were talking about like, yeah, Kyrie Irving, James Harden,

761
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, Like the team that has those guys are

762
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: just gonna win. So what is even the point of

763
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: playing the games? Like those guys are really good at

764
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,959
Speaker 1: basketball and they're on the same team, Like that's not right.

765
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: Unlike Chat, I enjoyed the story, and I want to

766
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: just say, you look like you had a great vacation

767
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: to the college scene. You have a nice little taint

768
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: on your nose. Uh, it seemed like you had a

769
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: good time. You have to meet some people, trade hats

770
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: to meet chat That would sound like a nice night.

771
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: So let's just dive in the hockey though. I need

772
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 1: to know why am I not bending all my money

773
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: on the Avalanche. Avalanche looks so much better than everyone else.

774
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: Am I crazy that I just keep buying futures on

775
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: the Avalanche plus two seventy to win the Cup? Right now. Well,

776
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: the problem was, like they play a style of game

777
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 1: that if you try to match them in that style,

778
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: that running gun up and down, you're not gonna beat them.

779
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: Like Vegas is probably who they're play in the next

780
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: round or Minnesota. Those those are two very good defensive

781
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: teams that like to come up of the game. Like

782
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: if you can turn the game into more of a

783
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: coin flip against the Avalanche and slowed down and uh,

784
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: that could use your size, like you can you have

785
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: a chance to beat them. It's nitpicking because you're you're

786
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: making up like a worst case scenario for them, which

787
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: is why they're the favorite. Like, but they don't really

788
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: have any insurance behind their their goaltender Philip Prubauer, which is,

789
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: you know, not some teams are able to get through

790
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 1: to to like a Stanley Cup with just one goalie,

791
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: but it's not you know, it's not something you you

792
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: really want to reliable backup, and they don't. Vegas has

793
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: one for sure, and a couple other teams that are

794
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: in the running do. So it's it's it's tough, but um,

795
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: I mean I get I get it, and I know

796
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: they've looked great, but they're not. Uh, they're not gonna

797
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: be look as good against better teams like the Blues. Unfortunately,

798
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: we're just like they were a mess all year. I

799
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: don't know why they couldn't figure it out, but because

800
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 1: they were a good defensive team for a long time.

801
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 1: But they got going into playing an avalanche style of

802
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: series and they were they were smoked. So um, I

803
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: don't I don't think it's right right now it's the

804
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: right time to buy. But I mean, if you are interested,

805
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: maybe they lose game one in their next series and

806
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 1: you can buy low. What has been your most miserable

807
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: betting experience so far in the playoffs? I know you

808
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: love misery betting on the hockey, the hockey sport. When

809
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: I look in the NHL Slack channel, which is my

810
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: favorite slack channel at action at this point, it's just emojis.

811
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 1: It's just vomit emojis. So uh, what has been your

812
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: least satisfying, most painful experience? I mean the whole thing.

813
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: Even when you win, it's just agony. It's just pure

814
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: Like last night, the Islanders won a double overtime in

815
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: a game they were completely outplayed, and it was just agony.

816
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: Like I I watched the game with my my dad

817
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: and uh at his house with and my mom came

818
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: down and she asked me why I was so upset

819
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: because and she's like, they're they're tied to two, and

820
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: I was like, that's that's why I'm so upset, Like

821
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: we're in double overtime. It's too too If they lose,

822
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 1: my life is over. If they win, my life probably

823
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: still is over because they won't win the next game

824
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 1: or the next game, Like it's you're just it's people

825
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: always like, oh, the NHL playoffs, it's like ecstasy or

826
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: or or agony. And I'm like, it's either relief or agony.

827
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: Like I was relieved after the Islanders won. I wasn't happy.

828
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: I'll just relieve um. And that's that's kind of like

829
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: what betting on the NHL is like regardless, Like it's

830
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: just you know, you just win and you're like, oh,

831
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: thank God, or if you lose, you just feel add

832
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: for yourself for a couple of days. And honestly, I

833
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: don't know which one I like more. Uh. That is

834
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: the most lee boff thing ever. That is why I

835
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: think for you, I wonder which came first your personality

836
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: and then a love of betting on hockey, or did

837
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: a love of betting on hockey shape your personality? I

838
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: think it was like my I've always kind of been

839
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: like this. It's like i've i've I've never I've won

840
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: one championship in my life in any sport. It was

841
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: in fifth grade in BBL. Actually I took a walk

842
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: off charge to win, which is great, but since after that,

843
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: it was just like all painful loss after painful loss.

844
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: I mean even in like my Beer League softball, you wouldn't.

845
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: You can't imagine the type of games that my team

846
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: manages to lose. It's just like you know, a walk

847
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: off walk or something like that, or a bad error. Um.

848
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: So I think that's just like when you lose as

849
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: much as I have, you kind of just learned to

850
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: just make do exactly what you're not supposed to do,

851
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: which is like they say, oh you lose, you lose,

852
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: or your learn, but for me, it's like you lose

853
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 1: and then you feel really bad for yourself for like

854
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: three or four days. And that's what that's what I've

855
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: been doing for like my whole life. So I think, uh,

856
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 1: I think that's why I've I've been me and hockey

857
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: are very synergy synergistic simon so many questions. Um, Yeah,

858
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: for one, I would definitely say like I obviously have

859
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 1: been been the Islanders simply because of you, and it's

860
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: hilarious to beout them. Is it always this way in

861
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: the playoffs? I forget if it always has been this

862
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: play but it feels like a lot of these games

863
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: are really coming down to one goal, like you're not

864
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: getting any value on the pluck line like this year.

865
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 1: Is that a really common practice in the playoffs? It

866
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,919
Speaker 1: really depends on Like the series. The East Division, which

867
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: has been Boston Washington, the Islanders are Penguiges, was just

868
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: tight all year and like those those teams play a

869
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: very um like grinding style of hockey, so you just

870
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: won't see many blowouts in that kind of environment. Um,

871
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 1: but there's always like matchups like that, like where people

872
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: are just they expect it to be, you know, a

873
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: best of seven like go go seven games. Each game

874
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: is decided by a goal or two. But like, I don't,

875
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that it's like a normal thing for

876
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: it to be this type. I do think like one

877
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: great thing about these these playoffs has been like when

878
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: you watch the bubble. Last year, it was nice to

879
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: have hockey on to be distracted from the absolute ship

880
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: storm that was going on in the rest of the world.

881
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: But um, it didn't feel exactly the same. It didn't

882
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 1: feel like playoff hockey because it's like the crowd whatever

883
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: you want to say. Um, and this year has been

884
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: like very celebratory, like it's like like almost like a

885
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: high school reunion in every game with the crowd, like

886
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: the way the crowd is and uh like I think

887
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: that that actually like the players too, like these games.

888
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: They always say, oh, playoff hockey is different. Sometimes that's

889
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: a cliche, but this year does look like these like

890
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: the teams, like you can visibly see, are just like

891
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: up for every second of the game. That the Panthers

892
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 1: Lightning series. I don't know if you guys have watched.

893
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure you guys are all over Tampa

894
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: Bay Lightning Ers Florida Panthers on this podcast that basically

895
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 1: only talks about the NFL, n NBA. By the way,

896
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: don't listen, don't come after us, don't don't don't be

897
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: mean about it, like we're giving you a voice. We're

898
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: on your side. Go after the people who don't do that. Alright, fair,

899
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: fair fair, But like that series has been insane, and

900
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: there's the crowd in Florida, which gets As an Islander fan,

901
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: I always feel bad for Panthers fans because like the

902
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: Canadian media just tries to move them around the country.

903
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: They'll be like, oh, Hamilton, Ontario could use a team,

904
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: let's move the Panthers there or whatever. But that crowd

905
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 1: has been awesome and those games have been awesome since

906
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: Game one, like the puck dropping Game one, it's just

907
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: been insane, and I think the crowd has a lot

908
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: to do with it. Um So, I think that's also

909
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: playing into why these games have seemed so tighter on

910
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: a razor's edge, and why like you know, when you

911
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 1: do lose, like the agony is like that much more

912
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: true story. Last night, I don't know why. For some reason,

913
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: I was thinking about the Memphis Grizzlies, and then I

914
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: was thinking about the Vancouver Grizzlies. Then I was thinking

915
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: about Sharif abdur Raheem, and like whatever happened to that guy?

916
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 1: He was such a great score. But then I did

917
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: think Vancouver Canucks, it's great city, great team, nickname. They

918
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 1: they had the luxury of playing a couple of regular

919
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 1: season games against the Calgary Flames while the NHL playoffs

920
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: were going on, which it's hilarious. Um, I can't believe

921
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: they made them play those games. But no, the Canucks, um,

922
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 1: I hate to break it to you, aren't in the playoffs.

923
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: They were. They're pretty bad this year. No, No, you're

924
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: not breaking anything to me. I'm I'm fine with it.

925
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: I'm just like the name and it made me think

926
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: of hockey. And you know, ovisly in this podcast is

927
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: the only time I'll do it. I think. I always

928
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: think the term long suffering is is thrown out way

929
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: to like willy nilly, like like if you're should Waggle

930
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: Bulls fan, you're not long suffering. If you're like a

931
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: Manchester United fan, you're not long suffering. People feel bad

932
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: for themselves, like after like six or seven years without

933
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 1: a title, Vancouver Canucks fans like they can say they're

934
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: long suffering. They haven't won everyone, They've been to a

935
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: couple of Stanley Cups and and lost in I think

936
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 1: games seven and both or six and seven, and um,

937
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: that is that's a fan base like I can I

938
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: can really appreciate. What would you do? We had this

939
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: really funny video the other day. Amanda Rose went to

940
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: the garden and she was asking Knicks fans what they

941
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: would do for the Knicks to win a playoff series,

942
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: and they were saying things like push my grandmother down

943
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: the stairs, give away my fifteen year old son. You

944
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: love the Islanders, What would you do for them to

945
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: win a Stanley Cup title? Oh boy? Um, I think

946
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 1: I would serve someone else's like life sentence or something

947
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: maybe like if like if maybe, like the the jury

948
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: is like a little confused, there's something I'd be like,

949
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: all right, like how but I'll just if the Islanders

950
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: when the Stanley Cup, I'll step in for that dude

951
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: and I'll do his life sentence just then I can,

952
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: just because then I wouldn't need like you don't get

953
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: a TV in prison. I assume I haven't done any

954
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: time yet, but um, I wouldn't need to watch anything

955
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: anymore because I would just think about the Islanders like

956
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: winning the Stanley Cup, and that's that would be kind

957
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: of enough for me to get through it. Um. I mean,

958
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: I have this conversation just the other night. I was texting,

959
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: you know, Ry a couple other of our NHL fans

960
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: the Islanders. I was at my brother's bachelor party and

961
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: we were watching the Islanders beat the Penguins in Game four.

962
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,479
Speaker 1: They won, and obviously I hate the Toronto maple Leaves

963
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 1: with an undying passion like I don't the maple Leafs

964
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: and Rangers. I hate them both, and a lot of

965
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: my friends think that I hate them more than I

966
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: love the Islanders. But I also I think it's just

967
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 1: one combined thing. Um, you know, my love for the Islanders,

968
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: it has a lot to do with like that hatred.

969
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: And the Canadians were playing the maple Leaves that night,

970
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 1: and I told a couple of people that had had

971
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: the Canadians won Game two of the first round series,

972
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: after the Islanders won Game four of the first round series,

973
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: that that day would be just as or maybe more

974
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: meaningful than my wedding day. So that is, you know,

975
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: that's where I was at mentally that the Canadians lost,

976
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: so luckily I didn't have to cross that bridge. Um,

977
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean, that's that's you know, I've seen

978
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 1: the Islanders win a couple playoff series the past couple

979
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: of years, but before that, for the first twenty eight

980
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: years in my life, I never saw them win one.

981
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: So even like these game ones or game threes in

982
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: the first round series, they they really mean a lot,

983
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: they really do. That's someone that has spent a lot

984
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: of time in prison. You can add whatever you want, bro,

985
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: you want a TV, you want a cell phone, anything

986
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: you need. Don't worry, leave off. They're gonna have it

987
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: for you. So it's it wouldn't be the worst thing.

988
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,959
Speaker 1: You want a life sentence for someone. But yeah, that's

989
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: that's true. FANDOSM right there, by the way, when were

990
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: you in prison? I visited friends, so that still counts.

991
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: I've been inside of a prison. First. For a second, there,

992
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 1: you t tried to pull it off like, yeah, I've

993
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: done time. I've done a hard time. But really you're like,

994
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: you know, you're Will Ferrell. You're visiting your in an hour,

995
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,760
Speaker 1: you're doing movies about it, but you haven't done time.

996
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: Well I have done time, Chad, but it was in

997
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 1: my youth and for things I don't need to talk

998
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: about because they got a sponge because before I was eighteen.

999
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: But no, I visit a friend in like an actual prison. Um,

1000
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: and yeah, obviously that people are terrified inside prison, and

1001
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: they should all like they look like they should be

1002
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: in prison. Like no movies that people are in prison,

1003
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 1: they look like kind of friendly. Yeah, in real life,

1004
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: it's not like that. It's terrifying, but he told me

1005
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: it's honestly not that bad. You get TV, you get

1006
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: cell phones. It's it's not as if they make it

1007
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: out to bate. Okay, I don't know what kind of

1008
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: movies you're watching, but I've never seen a movie where

1009
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: people in prison look friendly, long as you hard get

1010
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: at it. Chad old Man, what about OZ looked looked

1011
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 1: like I could do? OS is the scariest show ever.

1012
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: I still have nightmares about us and hasn't been on

1013
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: since you were like eight years old. Leaboff, we gotta

1014
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: go come to Game six tomorrow to Casseum, it's gonna

1015
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: be it's gonna be violent. I think more importantly, you

1016
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: should just come back next week and update us with

1017
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: what's happening with the Islanders and Game six. I hope

1018
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: they win. I hope you continue to shine as an

1019
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: Islanders fan and find both that relief and that agony

1020
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: and that then diagram that you survive in. Alright, but

1021
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: I mean, the offer is still on the table if

1022
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: you guys want to come listen. I'm not going to

1023
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: the fucking Colisseum to watch a hockey game for Never Loose,

1024
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: so I can so I can wear somebody else's hat

1025
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: in the middle of the pandemic. The section is vaccinated.

1026
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: It's beautiful people who didn't have shirts on. I wanted

1027
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: to cry. True story. Matt Mitchell and Mike Leeboff. We're

1028
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: both in a fiftieth birthday video for me and Mike

1029
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: Leeboff did it with his shirt off, as he does everything.

1030
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: I don't see the point in shirts really. Alright, Leeboff,

1031
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: we gotta go listen. This has been the favorite podcast

1032
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: from the Volume podcast network. We don't require shirts, we

1033
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: don't require happiness. We do require winners, and we gave

1034
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: some of those away for the NBA Playoffs, for the

1035
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: NHL Playoffs, for Michael Lieboff, for my bff, my companion,

1036
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: my best friend, Simon Hunter. I am Chad Mellman. We

1037
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 1: will be back on Thursday for the Thursday Thunderdome edition.

1038
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: Download Apple, Podcast, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast. Until

1039
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: next time, I love you,