1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: R and B Money. 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 2: We are. 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: Thanks take vlochie. We are the authority on R and 4 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: B Ladies and gentleman. 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 3: Name is Tankaline and this is the R and B 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 3: Money Podcast, the authority. 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 4: Come on on all things. 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 3: And oh my god, your vocals, oh shackles off my feet. 9 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 4: So he's got it's gotta be the guy. 10 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: In between my say sensual moments. 11 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 5: I take time, huh to give the Lord. 12 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: His just due. 13 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: And today is to day we are gonna get Jay 14 00:00:55,360 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 3: Valentine saved today. Call today gotty whip for who we 15 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 3: got in the building. I can't say enough about this 16 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 3: young lady, a Grammy Award winning I mean, changing the 17 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 3: trajectory of a message, showing God in a way that 18 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 3: is just just the way I'd love to see it. 19 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 3: And she's here the first time I'm gonna say the 20 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 3: first Ladies, Erica Campbell of Mary Larry's in. 21 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 5: The Pillar, thank you. 22 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 6: Glad to be here, Glad to be here. 23 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 3: Finally, I remember coming here, moving to La in two thousand. 24 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 3: Good friends of mine, good friends of all of us. 25 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 3: Rapture at the time was my musical director and producing 26 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 3: all this music for us East seats. Everybody nice to 27 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 3: go over the raption and church and hang out with 28 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 3: them all the time. You know what I'm saying, still 29 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 3: trying to keep my church ways as I've moved out 30 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 3: into California, you know. And and Rapture was like, man, 31 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: you gotta you gotta hear these girls called Mary Mary. 32 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 3: I was like, Mary married the names. I was like, 33 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: I don't know about that name, but the gospel they crazy. 34 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 3: And Warren is produced, I said, Warren, like Warren Warren, Yeah, 35 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 3: it it's crazy. I was like, this a right, Like, 36 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 3: what kind of gospel is it? Though, I'm telling you 37 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 3: it's different. You gotta see it. You guys jumped on 38 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 3: that scene, and I was my prayers had been asked, 39 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 3: I have. I'm having the same conversation with you that 40 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 3: I had with Kirk when I said, that's what I 41 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 3: was trying to hell everybody, that's what we should do. 42 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 3: We our message it should be competitive, Absolutely, it should be. 43 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: It should be fightd. 44 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 7: So if we, I think, if we serve the creator 45 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 7: of the universe, right, what did creation look like when 46 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 7: he said let there be stars, and stars just appeared 47 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 7: the whole galaxy? What did that look like when he 48 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 7: made birds and whales? 49 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 6: And elephants. It was a show. It's the best show 50 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 6: you ever seen, right. 51 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 7: So then why do I have to sing about God 52 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 7: and be boring and little ashy? 53 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 6: And you know what I mean? God? 54 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 7: So when Mary Mary first came out, we were at 55 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 7: the salon getting our hair done and the CD cover 56 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 7: was on the table and this guy was like, oh, man, 57 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 7: who was this? 58 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 6: They fine? 59 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 7: I was like, that's gospel music. He was like, saying gospel. 60 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 7: I said, why can't it be gospel? He said, because 61 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 7: gospel is old, fat and bored. And I said, well, 62 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 7: do I look old, fat or boring? He was like, ah, 63 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 7: I said, that's me. I sen gospel. 64 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 6: He was like, oh, okay, okay, I want to check 65 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 6: it out. 66 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 7: And he you know, I think a lot of people 67 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 7: were just not expecting girls that looked like us to 68 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 7: be saying about the Lord. But I mean, I don't 69 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 7: think we were the first ones to look like us 70 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 7: that same gospel though. 71 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 3: Well, in our fairness, you kind of were in leading 72 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 3: the charge of like, you know, because there are rules. 73 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 3: I come from a Baptist church. There are rules. There 74 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 3: were rules in terms of what women could wear, and 75 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 3: we were rule breakers. 76 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 7: We were rule breakers my father was a rule breaker 77 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 7: and so it wasn't foreign to me. So my father 78 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 7: did street ministry. So we were always like at the 79 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 7: park with the gangs and the you know, and we 80 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 7: were telling them about Jesus, but we didn't go in 81 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 7: long white dresses looking. 82 00:04:58,480 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 6: Corny, you know what I mean. 83 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 7: And then and our youth ministry was full of beautiful 84 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 7: young girls. Like dudes used to come to our church, 85 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 7: and my aunt would say, invite them all, just don't 86 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 7: sleep with them, you know what I mean, Like, yes, 87 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 7: they can come, you know. So this this subject of 88 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 7: faith filled and also being cute. 89 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 6: And you know, I don't think sexy is a bad 90 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 6: word for Christian A lot of people. 91 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 7: Think it is. And sexy doesn't mean sexual. It doesn't 92 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 7: mean I'm sleeping everybody. It means I'm attractive. It means 93 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 7: that God put me in this package and so I 94 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 7: don't have to run from it or cover it up 95 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 7: because I'm singing about him. 96 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 6: I think all of this was on purpose, you know 97 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 6: what I mean. 98 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 7: And so when you look at it like that, it 99 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 7: doesn't mean that if you don't look like this, you 100 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 7: can't do. This is just my story in my path, 101 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 7: but my goal was to always let people see Jesus 102 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 7: in a different light, because you know, on TV, it's 103 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 7: the corny scene, you know what I mean, it's just's 104 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 7: church is always portrayed. It's this uncool thing and people 105 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 7: think it's the coolest when it's unchurched. 106 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 6: I disagree. 107 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 3: You and you guys, let you young ladies. And Kirk 108 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 3: brought the the freedom of it of being cool. 109 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, and look, but I think. 110 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 7: It was the honesty about we're not perfect, so what 111 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 7: we weren't never trying to pretend to be more than 112 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 7: we were. 113 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 8: It was. 114 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 7: It was hard because I was a hardcore church girl, 115 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 7: grew up Evangelistic Church of God in Christ one hundred 116 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 7: and eleven Street, Englewood, California, went to church seven days 117 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 7: a week. 118 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 4: And so. 119 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 7: For Jesus playing no games, no, but yeah, it was 120 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,119 Speaker 7: street ministry. We knew that there were people that didn't 121 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 7: speak Christianese, that didn't go to church. How do we 122 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 7: tell them about this loving God that will take them 123 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 7: as they are. 124 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 4: You don't have to. 125 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 6: Clean yourself up, He'll do all the work. 126 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 7: So I just wanted to make sure that we presented 127 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 7: in a way where people got it. And I actually 128 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 7: was greatly inspired by. I remember saying the Clark Sisters 129 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 7: on the Grammys. I remember being blown away. I remember 130 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 7: watching BB and CC going man, one day, I'm gonna 131 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 7: get a chance. I remember going to a I think 132 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 7: it was, might have been the GMWA, might have been 133 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 7: some conference where Kirk was there, and I just wanted 134 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 7: to be in somebody's choir. 135 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 6: I tried to sing with John p Key. I sent 136 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 6: him a tape. I didn't get in. I tried to 137 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 6: be one of the Kirk Carr singers. I wasn't good enough. 138 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 7: I didn't get in, and I think it was because 139 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 7: God was saying, no, I have something else for you, 140 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 7: because I you know, when you have this view of church. 141 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 7: And I had a great respect and admiration for the 142 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 7: singers and what they did. And so while I loved them, 143 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 7: I knew I wasn't them, but I knew that was 144 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 7: the standard. 145 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 6: But I also have my. 146 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 7: Father, who is this buff dude who's cool in the neighborhood, 147 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 7: who all the gang members want to talk to him 148 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 7: when they're dealing with issues with their girl or whatever 149 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 7: they're going through. And I was like, man, this is 150 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 7: so cool that he can do that, and still be 151 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 7: so respected. He's not the hornball. Did that they like, Ah, 152 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 7: you don't know, they knew he understood them, And that's 153 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 7: always my prayer. I want you to know that I 154 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 7: get you. I understand brokenness. I understand you know, not 155 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 7: having growing up poor, you know what I mean. And 156 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 7: that was a great conflict for me for a long time. 157 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 7: Like y'all keep saying, God, I'm gonna make a way 158 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 7: out of no way. Y'all are still poor. And so 159 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 7: this unrealistic faith that just talked about what I was 160 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 7: going to get and not my responsibility in my life 161 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 7: is how me and Tina tried our best to relate 162 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 7: to and Warren. Of course we couldn't do it without 163 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 7: Warren to relate to this world who has this big 164 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 7: divide between my life and God and what that can 165 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 7: be when they don't know it's all intertwined. 166 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 3: All the time. Yes, I just feel like you, as 167 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 3: he said, the youth right, which is so very important. 168 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 3: I think you just really stayed true to who you were. 169 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and your message is your message, but who 170 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 3: you are, how you grew up your surround style, all 171 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 3: of these things I can I can be me and 172 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 3: and serve him that that that is and that that 173 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 3: is the the the relatable, intangible. That just made so 174 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 3: much sense for me. I was like, that's that's thirty 175 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 3: ninth street from me right there, That's that's Forestville, Maryland 176 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: for me right there, Like, that's that's it, it's it's 177 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: it's when Jesus sent them out to by two into 178 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 3: the street the street ministry. 179 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 6: Should you pastor he'll up the church, sir. 180 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 3: Offak, I keep a couple of but for the Lord, 181 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 3: keep a couple of buts tho the. 182 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 6: Lord, I can't stand it. Just but send disciples out. 183 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 3: He sent them out to the to the street. 184 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 185 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: Like, and so when you when you're sending somebody to the. 186 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 4: Street, they got to be equipped for they have to be. 187 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 3: They gotta be they got to be connected to that 188 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 3: in order to survive that place. 189 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 8: Yeah. 190 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, you can't go like this. 191 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: You know, a fake when you see one. 192 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 4: Right right right where. 193 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 6: You're from, right and what you're gonna say. 194 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 7: And it's so funny because of my style of gospel, 195 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 7: I'm always that's always who I encounter. 196 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 6: I remember one year b ET Awards. 197 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 7: You know, they do the press room and if you're 198 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 7: nominated and performing, you go and do the press. 199 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 6: So they happened to put Mary Mary on Hip Hop Day. 200 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 7: So it is every hip hop artist in you know, 201 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 7: the mid two thousands, and so you know they're like, 202 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 7: praise the Lord, Mary, Marry their eyes floating, you know, 203 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 7: up everywhere other than my eyes. 204 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 6: Praise the Lord, God bless you. You know what the 205 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 6: Mary's doing here on. 206 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:55,479 Speaker 8: This day. 207 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 7: But because I'm strong in my faith and I'm strong 208 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 7: in who I am, and I'm from Ingle, and I 209 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 7: don't play them kind of games, you know what I mean. 210 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 7: I knew how to be cool in the room and 211 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 7: just say what's up and how you doing? And I 212 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 7: knew their music, they knew mine. You know, most of 213 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 7: them either had a grandmother or auntie as somebody who 214 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 7: grew up in church. So it's always like my girl 215 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 7: love you. And I would say, well you don't ye, yeah, 216 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 7: you don't need shackles off your feet. Oh that's right, 217 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 7: that's right, Okay, okay, my grandmother did you listen to 218 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. And so being able to 219 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 7: just kind of talk to people just on a human level, 220 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 7: I think is what allowed our music to reach the 221 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 7: people that it reaches. I was just doing my solo thing. 222 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 7: I was in New York somewhere is soho, and I 223 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 7: thought this dude was trying to talk to me. 224 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 6: He was like, hey, hey, you know, and I was like, 225 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 6: you know, I was like, he was like, you seeing 226 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 6: gospel music, right? I say yeah. 227 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 7: He was like, I know you're doing your solo thing. 228 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 7: Wo let you let me know. He knew that I was. 229 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 7: He was aware of ye career. So he's like, I 230 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 7: know you're doing your solo thing. He was like, but 231 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 7: what you and your sister do? The streets need what 232 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 7: y'all do? 233 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 6: He was like, and so you know, we waiting on y'all. 234 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 7: And I just really appreciated that, and it let me 235 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,599 Speaker 7: know the value of you know, singing gospel music and 236 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 7: unorthodox places in unorthodox ways that does not always get 237 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 7: accepted by church people. 238 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 6: Because I have had church. 239 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 7: People, Lord Jesus, some of the things that they have said, 240 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 7: some of the man you know. But the good thing 241 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 7: about me, I don't care that much. So I don't 242 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 7: always remember their names. I don't always remember I just 243 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 7: know that you don't like me. That means I'm not 244 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 7: assigned to you. Is somebody else, For you can listen 245 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 7: to somebody else, But I know who I'm assigned to, 246 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 7: and I'm okay with that. 247 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 6: So I've never spent my career trying. 248 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 3: To please like me. 249 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 6: Please do you like me? Do you think I'm good enough? 250 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: No? 251 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 7: God gave me this talent, He opened that door, and 252 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 7: when I stand before him, you won't be there. 253 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 6: He won't ask you did you like what she did? 254 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 7: So my job is to make sure that I'm authentic 255 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 7: to who he's called me to be, singing where he's 256 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 7: called me, even if that's collaborations with non gospel people, 257 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 7: even if it's other rooms. If he has put me there, 258 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 7: then I'm there to be a light, to plan a seed, 259 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 7: to be a room changer. And so I stand confident 260 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 7: in that, not saying that I'm never, you know, shyer 261 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 7: and secure, because I have been like God, can you just. 262 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 6: Give me like a regular gospel song? Why does it 263 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 6: have to be? 264 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: Like? 265 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 6: I love God? 266 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 7: Now they gonna beat me up more, And then when 267 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 7: I try to the churchy things like a little more Jesus, 268 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 7: they'll be like this ain't your style. 269 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 6: So I'd be like, you can't win. 270 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 4: So I'll just be Erica Erica. 271 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 2: Before you go and see that, though, I just want 272 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: to say for me, and obviously you've seen obviously what 273 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: we had your husband on. 274 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 4: This, yes, yes, and it's my guy and you know 275 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 4: how we go back and forth. 276 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: But I think y'all style of music, of gospel music 277 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: was really important for someone like me who didn't grow 278 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 2: up in church and to still get the word through that, 279 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 2: but to still be relatable to me, right, because I 280 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: think there were times where I was the guy who 281 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 2: looked at the gospel music, the gods music scene are 282 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 2: you know, or even the church in itself as this 283 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 2: place that wasn't that was wasn't. 284 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 6: Very welcoming, wasn't welcoming. 285 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: I got you to me because it didn't it didn't 286 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 2: feel like me, And that could have been something that 287 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 2: I just conjured up in my mind like ah, well yeah, 288 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 2: like you said, it's not cool because I don't really 289 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 2: see myself there. But as I started to see myself there, 290 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: it became something that it was more relatable to me, 291 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 2: and it made it made the transition easier to listen to. 292 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 4: And even a record like Shackles because it was knocking, you. 293 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 2: Know what I mean, So that record I felt like 294 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 2: I wasn't the only person that it affected that way, 295 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 296 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 4: And I just want to say thank you for that. 297 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, because it is it is 298 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: absolutely something that I needed personally as well to hear 299 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: and to And I was never a closed minded person, 300 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 2: so much like I don't do this and all of that, 301 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 2: but it was just something that I wasn't tapped into. 302 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 7: Your emotions about a thing or your idea about a 303 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 7: thing can determine whether you will accept it receive it. 304 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 7: Like if you go to a restaurant and somebody told 305 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 7: you the food is nasty and the service is bad. 306 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 7: With you walking, you're expecting trash. 307 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 4: Yes, you know what I'm saying. 308 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 7: And a lot of times when it comes to faith 309 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,119 Speaker 7: in God, people have heard horrible things, seen horrible examples. 310 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 7: So you're not even open to the beauty of connecting 311 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 7: to the creator of the universe because you've got sister 312 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 7: so and so said, and this person said, I don't 313 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 7: serve them and they've got their own journey for whatever reason. 314 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 7: I don't take people personal either. I think you're doing 315 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 7: that as a reflection of you, not me. So it 316 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 7: allows me to walk in the room not looking for 317 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 7: Oh are they gonna like me? 318 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 6: And you know, if you already negative, you're probably gonna. 319 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 7: Give me that negative injury because you negative, not because 320 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 7: there's anything wrong with me, And so me presenting the 321 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 7: gospel has allowed me to be able to do that. 322 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 7: I remember we were in London and we were doing 323 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 7: this huge club and Cisco went on before us, singing 324 00:15:53,120 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 7: the Thong song and at that time, right dumps like 325 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 7: a truck. So we're like, we at this time we 326 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 7: open with thingsk you Lord, I'm going Tina, we gonna 327 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 7: do that, right. 328 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 4: She was like, it's what we do, right. 329 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 7: So we came on and sang that into thankful and 330 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 7: then we sang shackles and you know what I mean. 331 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 7: We had a good time, and at that time we 332 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 7: knew that this wasn't which I was expecting. So we 333 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 7: would jump off this stage, we would put mikes in 334 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 7: people's mouth, We was dancing with people, and it was like, 335 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,479 Speaker 7: this is the coolest gospel. 336 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 6: I've ever heard. 337 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 7: But we were never afraid of that. I knew that 338 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 7: it wouldn't be received well by church people. But where 339 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 7: is light most. 340 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 4: Effective in the dark? 341 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 7: Where do they need this light? In this love most 342 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 7: in places where I'm gonna feel better by this drink. 343 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 7: I'm'na feel better by sleeping with this person. This is 344 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 7: gonna make me feel I no, no, If I do this, 345 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 7: this is gonna make me feel better. 346 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 6: And this gospel music says you can feel better because 347 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 6: you are a human being. 348 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 7: And without all of that, you're still amazing, wonderful, valuable 349 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 7: and necessary to this world. And so when your music 350 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 7: brings value to people life, they kind of forget the 351 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 7: misconceptions of, oh, this is actually a gospel chack talking 352 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 7: to me. You know what I mean, because I'm not 353 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 7: bringing the judgment, I'm not bringing the you better and 354 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 7: follow all of these rules, right, any rule I don't follow, 355 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 7: there is grace for me. Anytime I fall, there is 356 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 7: grace for me. There's understanding for me. 357 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 6: God has people won't. 358 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 7: And I tell people, you got to stop expecting people 359 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 7: to give you what God said he. 360 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 6: Will give you. 361 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 7: He never told us to trust people. He said, trusting 362 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 7: the Lord with all your heart. 363 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: Right. 364 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 7: And so if I trust him, I can trust him 365 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 7: even if I'm in a room full of haters. I 366 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 7: can trust him, even if I'm walking into areas I've 367 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,479 Speaker 7: never been in before, because if he's assigned me to it, 368 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 7: he's equipped me for it. I'm prepared for it, and 369 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 7: no devil in Hell can stop me. 370 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 6: That's just what I believe. 371 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 7: So my church perspective on people going in hearing the 372 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 7: music is maybe a little bit different than somebody. I 373 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 7: don't have the come in clean or stay away dirty. No, 374 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 7: my uncle wasn't. 375 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 6: Highly educated, but he was so annointed. He said, let 376 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:56,959 Speaker 6: him come, let him come. 377 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 7: Smelling how they smell. We know what it was last night. 378 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 7: It's okay, let him come. And the choir was singing. 379 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 7: We would love on them and we would talk to 380 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 7: them and they'd be like, man, this place is pretty cool. 381 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 7: I remember it was a very big drug dealer in 382 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 7: Englewood that would go to our church all the time, 383 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 7: and he would always be like, man, I like it here. 384 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: Now. 385 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 7: He ain't necessarily stop selling drugs, but you know, he 386 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 7: came to church all the time and he would You 387 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 7: could you could see him changing. You could see him 388 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 7: trusting and believing that I could really like do something 389 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 7: different with my life, like this ain't the only way 390 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 7: I can take care of my family. And he just 391 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,719 Speaker 7: kept coming and my pastor would say, don't bother, leave 392 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 7: him alone. 393 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 4: Because everybody knew. 394 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 6: Everybody knew we yeah, we knew. 395 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 7: You know, some people scared, you know, because we was 396 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 7: in a blood neighborhood and just all of that. And 397 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 7: he'd be like, no, leave them alone, let him come. 398 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 7: And so there's a lot of people that would come. 399 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 7: I remember this one girl came to our choir rehearsal 400 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 7: and she was like, I know, I'm not supposed to 401 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 7: be here, and I got drugs in my pocket and 402 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 7: a gun and if y'alln't pray for me, I'm gonna 403 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 7: kill somebody right now. We stopped cire rehearsal and prayed 404 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 7: for her. She's still in the faith right now. You know, 405 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 7: it's not perfect, but still to this day. And she said, 406 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 7: I've never been to a place where they expected accepted 407 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 7: me that way. 408 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 2: And that's what I believe that I felt listening to 409 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 2: the music was acceptance, because that I think that's from 410 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 2: the outside of it. The biggest deterrence is not thinking 411 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 2: that it's going that you're going to be accepted in 412 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 2: this space because of maybe where you come from or 413 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 2: how you're living, or you know what I mean. Those 414 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: different things that where goes back to judgment. Yeah, nobody 415 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 2: wants to be judged, you know what I mean. People 416 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 2: can say that it's going. 417 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 6: To judge everybody. 418 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 2: We judge everybody, but nobody really wants to be judged. 419 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 2: And then you're and then you're also not going toward judgment. 420 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 2: Like if you know, like okay, across the street, right, 421 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 2: they about to read me all my rights over there, 422 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 2: and they gonna tell me what I'm doing wrong. 423 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 4: You can probably go to the. 424 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: Around the corner. 425 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna go to the easy church, or 426 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 2: not one at all, or not one at all, you 427 00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: know what I mean. And it was something that you 428 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 2: said that was really important because I felt like when 429 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: I was growing up, what I saw and what I 430 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 2: heard more so not even what I saw at times, 431 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 2: but what I heard was, you know, they got the 432 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 2: church over there in the projects in the hood, and 433 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 2: then they got the pastor driving the shiny Cadillac, and 434 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 2: those two things didn't go together to me. 435 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 6: So you want your pastor poor. 436 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 2: I didn't want them to be poor, and really I 437 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: didn't even I didn't have a pastor. But for me, 438 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 2: looking from the outside, I'm just like It just doesn't 439 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 2: make sense to me like that. All the people here 440 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 2: aren't doing well, but the pastor is. I think he 441 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 2: should share the wealth. 442 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 4: The best. 443 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 7: I don't know who said it, but I know someone 444 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 7: said the best thing you could do for poor people 445 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 7: is not be one of them. Because how can I 446 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,959 Speaker 7: teach you how to come out of this? I how 447 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 7: can I teach you how to elevate? How can I 448 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 7: teach you how to maximize in your life? If none 449 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 7: of us ain't got nothing, somebody has to have something. Yeah, 450 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 7: And you know, I don't want to get too spiritual 451 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 7: because I wanted your audience to be like we know, 452 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 7: there's always an agenda to make sure people don't get 453 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 7: this message of God right. So the enemy will start 454 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 7: in January to destroy you by December. If you have 455 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 7: financial issues right, and you striving and you want things 456 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 7: and you're trying to you're trying to make it happen, 457 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 7: and you go to church, the enemy gonna whisper in 458 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 7: your ear he got more than you. 459 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 4: Right. 460 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 7: Jealousy set sins, So I can't say, wool, I'm glad 461 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 7: God blessed you, Maybe God will bless me. It turns 462 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 7: into well, why didn't he bless me to. That's envy. 463 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 7: That's not faith, that's not expectation, that's not hope. That's 464 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 7: not gratitude. That's not looking at someone else and being 465 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 7: able to applaud someone else, you know what I mean. 466 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 7: So sometimes it's heart posture that makes you go and 467 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 7: look around. Let me see which church is raggedy. You 468 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 7: don't want God, you want something else. So you're gonna 469 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 7: find what you're looking for. The enemy gonna make sure 470 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 7: you find what you're looking for. 471 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 6: Most of the time. 472 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 7: Most of the time, those people are very loud. Sin 473 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 7: has good great marketing, great marketing. It's everywhere. 474 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 6: People want to hear the bad news, right what's wrong 475 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 6: with them? Just you know? And sometimes if you got 476 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 6: yourself together, they're still looking for what's wrong. 477 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 7: They can't be that good, you know what I'm saying, 478 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 7: Like we anticipate. We're so comfortable with the bad and 479 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 7: the broken, and we're so comfortable with thieves, and so 480 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 7: that's all we're looking for. We almost distrust a good 481 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 7: guy or a good chick. We almost questioned the couple 482 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 7: that's been there. It must be something in there. Of course, 483 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 7: it's something in there, but love held them together. Of course, 484 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 7: somebody's jacked up in the church. But we're not coming 485 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,959 Speaker 7: here for each other. We're coming here for God. And 486 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 7: I may have to sort through some people with their brokenness. 487 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 7: I may have to sort through some people who are 488 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 7: struggling and trying to get this thing right. The thing 489 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 7: about faith is you got to keep doing it every 490 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 7: day right. 491 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 6: It's not like I'm gonna get it right. Oh I'm 492 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 6: setting now, I'm good. 493 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 7: So as you come to a church, everybody is coming 494 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 7: for the same thing, for God, right, for for better, 495 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 7: for a light, for understanding, for healing, for whatever you're 496 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 7: looking for. And the enemy does not want you to 497 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 7: get that because you are the most powerful in those 498 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 7: times and in those moments when. 499 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 6: You're operating in your full power, in your full light. 500 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 7: No, they're gonna start, They're gonna stop doing this raggedy 501 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 7: stuff if they really understand the power of God and 502 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 7: how I can tap into the creator of the universe 503 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 7: and say, what does my tomorrow look like? And God say, 504 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 7: I'll need you to open this door and go through here. 505 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 7: But if you looking at people that's wrong. I can't 506 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 7: go in that room. They're gonna hate on me. You 507 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 7: may be called to that room, you know, and so 508 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 7: you may have been called to that church. But I 509 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 7: saw the Bentley first, so I'm not gonna go. 510 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 9: That's definitely how I felt when I got. 511 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 3: I go to a church and I say the bill 512 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 3: and I come from the churches in d C. 513 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 6: Does that people with money are well? 514 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 3: No, no, here's the thing not good? Because I want to. 515 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 3: I want to. I want to, I want to jump, 516 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 3: I want to get Because it was just like, I. 517 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: Don't I don't mind the pastor. 518 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 3: Living good and and and and and having his car 519 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 3: and you know, having his his portion of of what 520 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 3: God of what God gets sure, and I was giving 521 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 3: my experience when I like, he said l A and 522 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 3: I was like the first when I first moved to 523 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 3: LA was the first time. 524 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: Excuse me? 525 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 3: Then I saw a V I P section in church 526 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 3: and I was like, so, what's so who's this there? 527 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 3: Definitely for V I P. To sit behind. I was, oh, God, okay, 528 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,719 Speaker 3: I'll just park right No no, no, no, no, that's also 529 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 3: V I P. Park So you got it? What? And 530 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 3: I was like, okay, well, I'm gonna just here go 531 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 3: to It was my first time ever ever ever seen 532 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 3: and so I didn't know. I didn't know how to 533 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 3: process it because every every church that I had been to, 534 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 3: or every church that I grew up in, the only 535 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 3: person that had reserved parking was the pastor and everybody 536 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 3: else we just found us a space and help other 537 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 3: people find spaces. And then when you came in the 538 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 3: only people who had a signed seating where the deacons 539 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 3: and the deaconesses and the mother's board, like you knew 540 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,239 Speaker 3: where they said. And then well, my grandmother had her 541 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 3: own seat, so she don't sit in her seat, don't 542 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 3: sit in mine, don't sit and past the Mary Jean 543 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 3: Giles seat. It's don't be hal to pay right being 544 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 3: the third on the end, don't touch that right. But 545 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 3: outside of that, everybody you filled in m hm. And 546 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 3: so just speaking more to you know, kind of what 547 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 3: he was saying, just the nuance of it, you know, 548 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,959 Speaker 3: I'll add I'll add to a story with that in 549 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 3: terms of how I would have loved to see or 550 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 3: what I thought every church should have been. 551 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: Pastor battle good friend of. 552 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 3: Mine, I went and did his church, I think it 553 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 3: was mother's dad performed. He called me. He was like, yeah, 554 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 3: I want you to perform my church, my mother's day. 555 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 3: I was like, the mothers need to touch. I was like, 556 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 3: he said, yeah, we do two services. You sing some songs, 557 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 3: play the piano, and then we do like a h 558 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 3: a talk where we talk about you know you you 559 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 3: being in the industry, your faith and all these things 560 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 3: and how it carries you through and that. I was like, this, okay, 561 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 3: you sure? He was like. He was like, he's like yeah. 562 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 3: He said, what do you charge? I was like, I 563 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 3: mean it's church. 564 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: I was. 565 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 3: I was like, I charged this much. He said cool. 566 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 3: I was like cool. He said, yeah, I don't negotiate 567 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 3: against people. They said, that would be me telling you 568 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 3: that I don't believe you are who you say you are. 569 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,239 Speaker 3: I was like okay, amen. And then I was like, well, 570 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 3: I don't you know. I got a gig. I'm trying 571 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 3: to get there. He was like this, okay, well, what's 572 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 3: the easiest way to get you here? I was like, 573 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 3: probably a jet man, but I'm not trying to put all. 574 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 3: He said, Okay, price out of the jet. We'll get 575 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 3: you here. I was like what, ok amen, amen, and 576 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 3: somebody will get church got some money. No pastor battle 577 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 3: himself is cool. He's not the flashy is not the 578 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 3: it's not what he does. So we get the church 579 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 3: and we do these services, and in these services, I'm 580 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 3: watching him. I'm watching him give, I'm watching him give car, job, 581 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 3: place to stay. I'm watching him give, and I'm like, 582 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 3: I had never seen church like that, because I'd always 583 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 3: seen them take the offering and just take it in 584 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 3: the back and then that's it. And you had never 585 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 3: actually seen how how the church, you know, fed the community. 586 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 6: And I love that story for so many reasons. 587 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 7: I love that that there was a reservation even in 588 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 7: when he asked you to come, you weren't, like I 589 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 7: do venues fine, church is fine. 590 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 6: I love that there's a there's a sense of respect 591 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 6: that you had like should I say this? Should I? 592 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 7: And I think that shows that there is a reverence 593 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 7: for you know, God and God's House and God's people. 594 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 7: I love that they even had you and that they 595 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 7: treated you the way you're supposed to be treated. 596 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 6: And I can honestly say there are many churches that 597 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 6: have done that. 598 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 7: And then while we're on their way, we're like, oh, yeah, 599 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 7: that's our children's facility, that's our seniors facility, this is 600 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 7: where we be the homeless, and. 601 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 6: This is where we do this, and this is our 602 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 6: prisons ministry. 603 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 7: There are a lot of churches that are blessed because 604 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 7: of the amount that they give and how they serve. Now, 605 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 7: there are some trash churches. There are some raggedy ones 606 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 7: out there. I'm just like and I'm not because I 607 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 7: never want to talk about the good and not acknowledge. 608 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 7: I know that that exists, and I know that there 609 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 7: are a lot of people that have their hearts broken 610 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 7: in church. But God didn't do that. And if you 611 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 7: were going for people, you got what you were looking for. 612 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 7: But if you were going for God, you look past 613 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 7: that broken person and say, but Lord, what are you 614 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 7: saying to me? I know what they said, but Lord, 615 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 7: what are you saying to me? 616 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: Keep framing it around God's name? 617 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 3: Right, So I'll say it as I was a musician, 618 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 3: this is I'm sorry, we're going to get. 619 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 6: To they wanted church. 620 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 3: It was it's what you brought is healing and something 621 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 3: something different. 622 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: Right. 623 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 3: And so as a musician in my church, as as 624 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 3: the minister of music and playing for all the choirs 625 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 3: and writing the songs and the songs, I just want 626 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 3: doing rehearsals as were in there seven days a week 627 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 3: and even know what I'm saying, how do I live? 628 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? 629 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 3: And when it keeps being framed as well, you know 630 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 3: God gonna take care of you? Well, you do you 631 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 3: think you think we can get one of them bricks 632 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 3: that God God on the street and for a play, 633 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 3: because because right now, just seventy five dollars a Sunday, 634 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 3: right and you're telling me God got me. I'm here 635 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 3: in the place of God. This ain't got me. 636 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 8: A job? 637 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 6: Then I had a job, I was saying at my church. 638 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 6: But I had a job. I did hair, I was 639 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 6: watching kids. I mean, you have to the Bibles as 640 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 6: if a man or a woman don't work, you don't eat. 641 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 3: So the responsibility of the ministry, which I think is 642 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 3: supposed to feed me, and can they really free? 643 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 6: Church is not as financially strapped as people think. A 644 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 6: lot of times people don't. 645 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 7: There are some sundays if people just don't feel like given, 646 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 7: they don't packed. But if the church is broke, how 647 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 7: much where it really is? Everybody is George Washington, the 648 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 7: host Famous Dollars. 649 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 3: It's saying seventy five dollars, he go to. 650 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 6: Church, He go to church, a lot. Now, there are 651 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 6: a lot of churches that take very good care. 652 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: No, no, I get. 653 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 3: That, don't yeh of the things that just kind of 654 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 3: were like, you know, the conversation that were just like, 655 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 3: but think about it. 656 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 7: Just because your pastor doesn't mean that you are financially astute. 657 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 7: Just because your pastor doesn't mean that you're good at organizing. 658 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 7: You know, just because your pastor, sometimes their bills ain't 659 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,239 Speaker 7: paige because they're just not good with money. You may 660 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 7: be called, but there's some natural things that you have 661 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 7: to do in your own life. You know, get your 662 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 7: own education, you know what I'm saying. Make sure you 663 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 7: understand if we're understand financing, but if you don't, get 664 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 7: somebody that does. 665 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. 666 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 7: I remember, you know, growing up in church, and I 667 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 7: loved my church. But the people over finances, they was 668 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 7: on welfare. 669 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 6: So how you gonna really manage the finances of the church. Well, 670 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 6: you know what I mean. Not that they were bad people, 671 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 6: but they. 672 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 4: Weren't equip They didn't understand what to do. 673 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, we had been trying to raise we would raise 674 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 7: money and have a building, but have too many bills 675 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,479 Speaker 7: and have other things and you know, insurances and all 676 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 7: these things that go into the business of church. But 677 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 7: nobody understood the business of church because we're just gonna 678 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 7: come and have church. So then when your business isn't right, 679 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 7: you blame it on the devil, or you blame it 680 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 7: on the quicker preacher. Would he really wasn't equipped. 681 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 4: For that part of the job. 682 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 7: Get yourself a staff, have financial people that will come 683 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 7: here a long time ago. 684 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 2: This is honestly, this is outside of how amazing you 685 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 2: are in the amazing things you've done in music. But 686 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 2: this is why you're you're so important to our show. 687 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 4: Because this is a this is another side of it. 688 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, because we get into the business of secular music, 689 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 2: but we don't get into the business of church. 690 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 691 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 7: And because i'd say faith more than church, but just 692 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 7: because there's always something fighting your faith. 693 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, But I'm talking about the business side of church 694 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 2: that it's being taken care of. And like I said, 695 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 2: you know, like I like when we started the conversation, 696 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 2: and it started with what I saw, but I didn't 697 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 2: see the inner working. I'm just a kid seeing something 698 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 2: that adults are telling me isn't right. But those adults 699 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 2: may not look at what you just said. Okay, this 700 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 2: man has a calling. They don't really understand business. And 701 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 2: the women that are are the men that are handling 702 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 2: the books, they don't they don't even understand money. 703 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: They don't have a degree in account. 704 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 4: Winston that went off to college and it's now back. Yeah, 705 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. 706 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 2: So that's why I say, you know this, this conversation 707 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 2: is so so very important. 708 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 4: For even our audience. 709 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. 710 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 2: And you know, because our audiences, we got people probably 711 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 2: that go to church, that don't go to church, that 712 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 2: you know, having opinion. 713 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: Of the came from church, right. 714 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 2: Right, And this conversation needs to be had if it's 715 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 2: here or anywhere else, because just us having the dialogue 716 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 2: that we're having now is helping my understanding. 717 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 6: Oh that's so dope. 718 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 7: I think God is always trying to get to us 719 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 7: in different ways, and I love that. You know, the 720 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 7: world is so big and so small all at the 721 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 7: same time. When you think of social media, you can 722 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 7: scroll past anything that may touch your heart and you 723 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 7: don't know that you're going to need that for a 724 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 7: later moment. And so I believe that God makes deposits 725 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 7: in your soul for what you may need later. You 726 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 7: may hear something, read something, experience something that will challenge 727 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:52,959 Speaker 7: you to think about God in a different way because 728 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 7: you had this preconceived notion of what it could be 729 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 7: or what it is. 730 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. 731 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 7: And sometimes the example was a broken person and then 732 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 7: God allows you to see your own brokenness and say, oh, 733 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 7: I'll kind of operate like that too. So the same 734 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 7: grace I want for me, could I extend it to 735 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 7: somebody else? You know, learning those principles of grace and 736 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 7: faith and compassion, and you know, allowing yourself to be 737 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 7: human and normal and knowing that I don't have to 738 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 7: pretend to be perfect, I think allows me to see 739 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 7: the greatness of God because when I'm weak, that's when 740 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 7: he's the strongest, because he's lifting me and he's carrying me. 741 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 7: And so if you have somebody that's coming and they 742 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 7: see this broken guy and you know that is anointed 743 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 7: to preach, but you know he got some issues in 744 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,240 Speaker 7: his flesh and he got some issues in other places. 745 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 7: You're not holding him to this unrealistic you. 746 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 6: Got to be perfect? Are you held to a higher standard? Absolutely? 747 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 7: You know, should your faith make you make some different 748 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 7: choices absolutely, but if you don't, there is grace for you. 749 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 7: And so when you look at faith like that, you 750 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 7: come in with a little more compassion as opposed to 751 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 7: the eye that says she mess up? 752 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 6: Is her dress too short? While you say it, you 753 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 6: know what I mean. 754 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 7: Hey man, we human Jesus went to the cross because 755 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 7: he knew there was no way we were going to 756 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 7: follow every single rule every single day. So every day 757 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 7: he gives me another chance, another chance to choose him. 758 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 7: And this is what I love about God. He don't 759 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 7: wake me up and say you better choose me, because 760 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 7: the plenty of people who don't, they still have breath 761 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 7: in their body. And so that's what I think is 762 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 7: so cool about God. So I get my eyes off 763 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 7: of people and focus on God. Like even when I didn't, 764 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 7: she choose you. Even when I messed up, You still 765 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 7: blessed me. You still allow me to sing, You allow 766 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 7: me to go across the world when I was doubting 767 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 7: you and questioning you because you know, my father died 768 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 7: and this manager did this, and the industry's not fair 769 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 7: and it's shifting you. Still I'm doubting you, and this 770 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 7: breath that I'm breathing is from you? 771 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 6: How dare I? You know? 772 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 7: And so it just gives me a little different understanding 773 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 7: and perspective, perspective when I see certain artists and they're 774 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 7: not gospel artists and they live and how they live, 775 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 7: and I'm saying, Lord, just let there be a God 776 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 7: deposit at some moment in time. 777 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 6: Let somebody say, Hey, can I pray for you? 778 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 7: I was on a red carpet and really really huge 779 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 7: rapper and we knew that the Ruckus was coming. So 780 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 7: me and Tina had done the carpet and we were 781 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 7: doing an interview with ABC. So she was coming and 782 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 7: we could hear the rush of people clicking and taking 783 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 7: her picture, and so. 784 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 6: We're coming off ABC. She's going up. So I turn 785 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 6: around and I say, hey, how are you? And she 786 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 6: was like, I'm so nervous. I said, you're. 787 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,399 Speaker 7: Good, don't worry about it, and she grabbed my hand 788 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 7: and said, I feel better because you're here now. Had 789 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 7: I got jealous because some of the cameras left me 790 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 7: and Tina and went to her. Had I got an 791 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 7: attitude and be like, I'm gospeling I deserve. I wouldn't 792 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,359 Speaker 7: have had that moment with her I don't know what 793 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 7: that moment meant, but I know it was an opportunity 794 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 7: for her to see a gospel artist in this big, 795 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 7: huge star and say. 796 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 2: Hey, how are you? Are you okay? And she said, 797 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 2: I feel better because you're here? 798 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 7: And I think that that is my assignment. That's God 799 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 7: dropping those little you know, absolutely like. 800 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 6: I'm here. I want your attention. 801 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 7: I need your time to say thank you to me, 802 00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 7: you know what I mean, Consult me in your ways 803 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 7: before you ain't that deal? 804 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 6: Lord? Is this for me? You know what I'm saying? 805 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 6: Before you go on that tour? Am I supposed to 806 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 6: be here? 807 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 7: Me and Ten have been invited to some tours that 808 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 7: we knew, big stage, great opportunity, you know, Let the 809 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:23,919 Speaker 7: cute gospel girls open. Man, God, this saint. But that's 810 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 7: from those those God seats that have been dropped in 811 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 7: my life. And I just you know, I always say 812 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 7: to myself and I tell people around me, when I 813 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 7: stand before God, none of y'all are going to be there. 814 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 6: Not a Grammy, not a nobody, not even my husband. 815 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,879 Speaker 7: It's just gonna be me. Did you choose me? Did 816 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 7: you love me? Did you talk about me? You know 817 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 7: what I'm saying, was you cool with me? 818 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 6: Did you rock with me? 819 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 2: You know me? 820 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 6: So you know? 821 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,399 Speaker 3: Okay, let's let's let's let's get into you. 822 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 6: Okay, let's get into if we. 823 00:38:54,440 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 3: Start talking about buffed in the hood, I ever tell 824 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 3: me because I don't know how much of a long 825 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 3: time coming Mary Mary was. But I'm sure there was 826 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:24,399 Speaker 3: a moment early early on. I mean, us church kids, 827 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,479 Speaker 3: we always singing in church, always twenty four to seven 828 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 3: win church, got it. But there's there's a moment when 829 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 3: sister brother, somebody or somebody says, man, y'all, y'all dope, 830 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 3: y'all are different special? When is that? 831 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: So? 832 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 7: I grew up singing in church, started singing at five. 833 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:50,240 Speaker 7: I was the solo artist at church. Me and Tina 834 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 7: were not a group. Our choir went to McDonald Gospel 835 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,479 Speaker 7: Best and recorded albums and I would lead. 836 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 6: And so Tina had a song with her. 837 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 7: Best friend Erica bell Aircabelle wasn't there that day, and 838 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 7: they were like, okay, well just sing the song with it. 839 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 6: Were singing together, and we're like we singing We feel it. 840 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 7: Like the audience, the choir, because they had never heard 841 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:17,399 Speaker 7: us sing together. They're like, oh my god, I'm about eighteen. No, 842 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 7: maybe I'm nineteen. So Tina's about seventeen. You know, I 843 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 7: don't meet Warren until I'm twenty three. 844 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 6: He's twenty. 845 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 7: So we're singing at church and I'm feeling, you know, 846 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 7: I'm like, oh, this is something I always wanted to sing, 847 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:32,760 Speaker 7: always wanted to record. 848 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 6: All my dreams were big stages. 849 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 7: I would have the craziest visions of Arita's and people 850 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 7: screaming my name, but I had no clue of how 851 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,800 Speaker 7: to get there. So I would go to every concert. 852 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 7: I wanted to sing in everybody's group. I would go 853 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 7: to all the studios and sometimes it's like, oh, cute 854 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 7: little church girl, or you know what I'm saying. 855 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 6: It was that for years, years, years, and I was like, 856 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 6: why would you keep giving me these dreams if I'm 857 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 6: not supposed to do this for real? 858 00:40:55,520 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 7: So I am doing a play stage play, and by 859 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 7: this time, me and Tina are making up songs, and 860 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 7: you know, we moved out and all of that, and 861 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 7: Warren comes to the show. 862 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 6: My timeline may be off. 863 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 7: Warren comes to the show, and you know, he just 864 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 7: think I'm cute and we just exchange in numbers, but 865 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 7: I go to the studio because he's working with Dawkins, 866 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 7: and Dawkins already a big fan of theirs, right, So 867 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 7: we're in the studio and I'm like, this guy is 868 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 7: really cute. But I didn't want him to think that 869 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 7: I only liked him because he did music, so I 870 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,839 Speaker 7: never really told him how much. I mean, he knew 871 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 7: I could sing because he saw me to play, but 872 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 7: I wouldn't like, oh, I want to record, do a Demommy, Simmy. 873 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 7: It was none of that. Tina says, I want you 874 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,399 Speaker 7: to hear the song that I made up. The song 875 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 7: was what a Friend, which is on our first record, 876 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 7: I think the second or third song on the first record. 877 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 7: So he's like, y'all should be a group, and I 878 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 7: feel that it's coming. So in my mind, I'm going 879 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 7: I'm getting closer to the dream. I'm getting closer to 880 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 7: the dream. So we do a demo. He sends that 881 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 7: demo to a few people in the industry. It's this, okay, well, 882 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know if I can say it 883 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 7: because he's in so much trouble. But Diddy was the 884 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 7: first one that was interested in Mary. Mary just off 885 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 7: a picture in a song. He never met us, never 886 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 7: seen his perform. So we go to New York. But 887 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,919 Speaker 7: then there's also Columbia was asking and at this time 888 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 7: then the face was asking, and so one was this 889 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 7: is all off a demo. It's not even a record. 890 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 7: We ain't performed nowhere. They just see these two Q 891 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 7: girls in this song. Because Shackles is a. 892 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 6: Beast, right, Shackles, the shackles. Shackles was the first DIF. 893 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, we did, we did, and Shackles was supposed to 894 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 7: be for the Prince of Egypt soundtrack, and so once 895 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 7: we heard it, because one was doing. 896 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 6: The Prince of soundtrack, realized. 897 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 7: Once we realized the magnitude of the song, he was like, well, 898 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 7: let's just keep Shackles for ourselves and we'll do something 899 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,319 Speaker 7: else for the Prince of Eagypuntains soundtrack. We end up 900 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 7: doing a song called let Go Let God with an 901 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 7: unknown tie tribute in GA at the time. Yeah, so 902 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 7: that song comes out. Then we do another soundtrack for 903 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 7: Doctor Doolittle and we do another soundtrack, but we hold 904 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 7: in Shackles in the bag, like you know, And so 905 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 7: he's taking these. 906 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 4: Meetings record from me. It was a record he knew 907 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 4: more than we. 908 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 3: But here's here's the other question too, as you as 909 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 3: you moved through this, when you say you didn't want 910 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 3: to ask him about music and all of these things. 911 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, did you know at the time what he was 912 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:25,760 Speaker 1: in music? 913 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 3: No? 914 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 7: I just thought he wasn't safe because he worked at 915 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 7: death Row. But I know I liked him though, But 916 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 7: I was like, you know, because I grew up with 917 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:32,320 Speaker 7: secular music as a singer. 918 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 6: So I was like, man, he's so nice. 919 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 4: This is why. 920 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 6: This is no way he loves Jesus death Row. 921 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 7: But that was so sweet about him, and there was 922 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 7: just I went to my aunt, who was the first lady. 923 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,320 Speaker 7: I was like, so dating the guys in church was 924 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,319 Speaker 7: like a big no note for me. But he don't 925 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:53,839 Speaker 7: go to church. 926 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 2: She was like, I don't know, it's something different about him. 927 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 7: M And she said, okay, just pray for him. She said, 928 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 7: not out loud, just say Lord, if this is you, 929 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 7: just show me. And when we started talking we never 930 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,360 Speaker 7: stopped talking. 931 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 6: It was old school sit on the phone for hours. 932 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 7: He lives in the valley. I live in Lawndale. He's 933 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 7: driving to my house. I'm driving his house in my 934 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,280 Speaker 7: raggedy Toyota tourseell, hoping that it don't. 935 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 6: Up just to record music. 936 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:33,880 Speaker 3: Business. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 937 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 4: I am, but I'm still you. 938 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 7: Know, trying to be cute but you know, but I'm 939 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,399 Speaker 7: you know, want to talk about music. And he knows 940 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,280 Speaker 7: that we can sing, so he's like, oh, do this demo. 941 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,279 Speaker 7: And I don't know if it's because you know, he 942 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 7: liked me, or he was like, really want me to sing? 943 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,320 Speaker 6: You know, it's also. 944 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 3: It's also mixed up when you when you're attracted to someone. 945 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, but he's becoming this producer, he's doing this these things, 946 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 7: he's you know, and we're brand new. 947 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 6: So we start recording the record. 948 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 7: We are you know, dating by now, and you know, 949 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 7: I initially was like, you're younger than me. I was 950 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 7: used to dating older guys. I'm like, he's three years younger. 951 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 6: Oh that's cute. 952 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 7: But we would not stop talking to each other. So 953 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 7: it's all of that, and somewhere in the middle, you know, 954 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,760 Speaker 7: before the record comes out, he proposes and yeah. 955 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:31,799 Speaker 6: And all of that. 956 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,399 Speaker 7: But then after he proposes, he's like, I'm not sure 957 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 7: if I'm really ready to do this. So he says 958 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 7: he needs space, and I said okay. But the next 959 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 7: day we had to come to the studio, and so 960 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,359 Speaker 7: I said, well, I've wanted to sing longer than I've 961 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 7: loved you, so I'll be at the studio. My my 962 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,840 Speaker 7: ego and attitude about Erica and her singing was like, 963 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 7: you didn't been engaged twice before. Relationships come and go, 964 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 7: this will be fine, but this music thing is what 965 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,440 Speaker 7: you want for the rest of your life. So I 966 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 7: would go in the bathroom and cry and come out 967 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,879 Speaker 7: and be like, Lord, I'm thankful for what's my part? 968 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 7: I act funny at all and Tea's like, it's okay, 969 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 7: you want you want to stay home? 970 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:37,759 Speaker 6: I was like, no, I beat all right. So, uh, 971 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 6: Tina and Teddy had just got married. The record comes out. 972 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 7: By now we're on single number two, we're on I Sing, 973 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 7: and we're traveling and. 974 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,479 Speaker 4: We're promoting only one that's not a Campbell yet. 975 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 6: I'm not a Campbell yet because I'm still. 976 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 4: For the other people that don't know. 977 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,759 Speaker 2: Both of the sisters married two men that are not 978 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 2: kind to each other with the last. 979 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 1: Name camb. 980 00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 7: So you know, he's trying to figure it out, and 981 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 7: I don't believe. And ultimatums I believe you. You know, 982 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 7: you show me the rules to the game and I 983 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 7: play it. I'm not forcing you. I didn't say God please, 984 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 7: I was like, okay, all right. So then he says, well, 985 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 7: you know, I'm gonna call you tomorrow. 986 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:14,880 Speaker 6: And I said, but you want space. 987 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 7: Space means a way, it means a part. So you 988 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 7: live in your full complete, no airicodness, and you check 989 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 7: how that feel. If that's what you want, that's what 990 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,319 Speaker 7: you want, and I'll deal with it. I'll cry for 991 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 7: about a good two weeks. 992 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 6: And then I'll be over it. And so we go 993 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,919 Speaker 6: on the road. We're doing something called the road shows. 994 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:32,400 Speaker 6: We're doing. 995 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 3: On the road with you, right, No, he didn't try. 996 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 6: He never really traveled with Mary. 997 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:38,239 Speaker 4: Mary. 998 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:39,319 Speaker 6: Yeah. 999 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,920 Speaker 7: So we're on the road, We're doing the road shows 1000 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 7: and I'm crying. 1001 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,759 Speaker 2: Like my god, I thought you said this was him. 1002 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 2: But when I talked to him, I'm like, oh, I'm cool, 1003 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:48,280 Speaker 2: you know, because. 1004 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,360 Speaker 6: I'm a g and uh. We are in Paris. 1005 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,280 Speaker 7: We're leaving Paris, and they said, somebody call the hotel, 1006 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:55,920 Speaker 7: you know for one of the Mary's. I'm like, well, 1007 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,640 Speaker 7: it's teena because I ain't got no man, no more 1008 00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 7: then we go to Holland. 1009 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,800 Speaker 6: We're in the line Ibby in Holland. 1010 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 7: And again there's a call for one of the girls 1011 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 7: and I said, well, Tine's for you. She goes to 1012 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 7: the phone. She comes back, she said, well, it ain't 1013 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,239 Speaker 7: for me. She said, it's warn't on the phone. I 1014 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 7: was like, so I go to the phone. And by 1015 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 7: this time, honestly, I'm familiar with heartbreaking heartache. So I 1016 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 7: start building some nice brick walls around my heart. I 1017 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,759 Speaker 7: was like, he may come back around, he may not. 1018 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 7: So I pick up the phone. He says, I'm so sorry. 1019 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 7: I do want to marry you. Let's get married in May. 1020 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 7: I'm sorry, and I was like okay. He was like, 1021 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:33,480 Speaker 7: why are you sound like that. I was like, well, 1022 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 7: I've been prepping myself, not for this call, but for 1023 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 7: I can't do it call. So you know, long story short, 1024 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 7: we end up, you know, getting married in twenty three 1025 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,920 Speaker 7: years and all of that. But it was a journey 1026 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,799 Speaker 7: because I'm a very I'm very honest with myself. I 1027 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,239 Speaker 7: don't believe that I can force people to love me. 1028 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 7: You have the same way I could choose God, he 1029 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,400 Speaker 7: could choose me or not. And that wouldn't even make 1030 00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 7: him a bad guy, you know what I'm saying. So 1031 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 7: our love story and our music story is all intertwined. 1032 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 7: Probably should be a movie. 1033 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 6: It's all intertwined. 1034 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 3: Now. 1035 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:08,760 Speaker 7: I don't know how true this is, but I believe 1036 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 7: Teddy called him while we were in Paris. It said, Nigga, 1037 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 7: you are you crazy? 1038 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 4: Did you see her? You still you? 1039 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 1: Sure? 1040 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 6: You won't space like? 1041 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:18,279 Speaker 3: You? 1042 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:19,720 Speaker 6: Better go and get that girl? 1043 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 4: And so you know, and it shackles out at this point. 1044 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 7: Shackles is out at this point. Yeah, Shackles is because 1045 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 7: we're in Europe. It's all over it. 1046 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,959 Speaker 3: Let's talk, Let's go back, so you get the record deal, Yes, 1047 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:42,359 Speaker 3: and the first single is Shackles holding not a long time, Yeah, 1048 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:46,439 Speaker 3: even if it's a year and a half, there's a talk. Yes, 1049 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 3: and out the gate you were off man to the race. 1050 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:57,759 Speaker 3: You in your mind have been saying, this is what 1051 00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 3: I want? 1052 00:49:58,719 --> 00:49:59,200 Speaker 6: For sure? 1053 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,399 Speaker 3: Is it beyond expectation? 1054 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:03,600 Speaker 6: Oh? For sure. 1055 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 7: I grew up saying that God can do exceedingly abundantly 1056 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,400 Speaker 7: above all I could ask or think, according to the 1057 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 7: power that works in me. So I felt like God, 1058 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 7: I'm working my power. I've been singing up and doing. 1059 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 7: I've been, you know, getting ready for this, and so 1060 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,240 Speaker 7: here we are, and God kind of dropped a bomb 1061 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 7: on me and said, if you expect me to be great, 1062 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:30,319 Speaker 7: don't be surprised when I am, because interviewers favorite question 1063 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 7: is can you believe it? And so I spent a 1064 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,279 Speaker 7: few years going, I can't believe it. Oh man, I 1065 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:40,040 Speaker 7: couldn't believe it, and so then I started changing. Yeah, God, 1066 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,439 Speaker 7: you know, you can't expect something, anticipate something, planned for something, 1067 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,240 Speaker 7: and when you get it, you spend your days talking 1068 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,239 Speaker 7: about it in total wonderment. It should be more appreciation 1069 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 7: and gratitude, like, wow, not only did you do what 1070 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,440 Speaker 7: you showed me, you did more than I could imagine. 1071 00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 7: Because not only did he do this through me with 1072 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 7: this music, You're changing people, those lives. 1073 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 6: You're touching people that I may never meet. You're allowing me. 1074 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,960 Speaker 2: This girl from Englewood, who you know grew up poor 1075 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:08,799 Speaker 2: on welfare. 1076 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 7: You know all of that. You allow me to have 1077 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 7: this influence, in this impact. You know what I mean, 1078 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 7: even when I'm still having moments of struggle with my faith, 1079 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,840 Speaker 7: because life is life, you know, you still choose to 1080 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 7: use me and let me sing this music and can't 1081 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,600 Speaker 7: give up now and God and me and go get it. 1082 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 7: And then the reality show and all these layers that 1083 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,760 Speaker 7: become Erica that just allow me to grow and see myself, 1084 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 7: see my own brokenness, but to see His greatness. And 1085 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 7: I think that's the most that's the most amazing part 1086 00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 7: of all of it, is you allow me to see 1087 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,000 Speaker 7: how fragile I am and it those people would sing 1088 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 7: ten times. 1089 00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,880 Speaker 6: Better than me. It's of course they're out there, but 1090 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 6: you chose to use me. 1091 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:46,640 Speaker 3: Mm hm. 1092 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 7: And my humility precedes me everywhere I go, even though 1093 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 7: I'm full aware of who I am in my capability, 1094 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,279 Speaker 7: but I know it ain't me, it's him. My insecurity 1095 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,240 Speaker 7: doesn't make me inflate myself. So I feel better about 1096 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 7: myself and God uses me. 1097 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 6: That's how I feel. 1098 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:13,800 Speaker 3: Tell me we we we went to yes abundance above beyond. 1099 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:19,719 Speaker 3: Tell me some of the struggle that came along with shackles. 1100 00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:20,720 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. 1101 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,719 Speaker 6: The church people that I loved that didn't understand. It's 1102 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,840 Speaker 6: like y'all know me. So we started off, you know, 1103 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,680 Speaker 6: doing big R and B and hip hop festivals. 1104 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,239 Speaker 2: We started off it was an event with the roots, 1105 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,160 Speaker 2: Snoop Dogg, Little Kim. 1106 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 7: And Mary Mary, you know, started off in all these spaces. 1107 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 6: Vibe had their juice. 1108 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 7: Addition, and it's everybody just hot and up and coming 1109 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,719 Speaker 7: and Mary Mary smack dab in the middle of that, and. 1110 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,360 Speaker 6: It was just it was weird, but it was great. 1111 00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,200 Speaker 7: But I wanted to be accepted by the people that 1112 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,640 Speaker 7: have poured into me spiritually that prepared me to share 1113 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,640 Speaker 7: the Gospel with the world. I wanted them to be 1114 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,960 Speaker 7: okay with it being this part of the world, not 1115 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,000 Speaker 7: the church part of the world. So there were some 1116 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,239 Speaker 7: people who understood and got it, and most church girls 1117 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:13,880 Speaker 7: that I talked. 1118 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,880 Speaker 6: To there was like, man, we were just so happy 1119 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,319 Speaker 6: when y'all came on a scene, like, oh finally, right. 1120 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:20,399 Speaker 4: Do you think that. 1121 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:28,240 Speaker 2: When you speak about it, it feels like the regional 1122 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:32,840 Speaker 2: artist that blows up everywhere else. 1123 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:36,480 Speaker 3: But at home. Let's see what you're saying. 1124 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:40,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's like, Okay, I'm from the Bay Area, right, 1125 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:44,480 Speaker 2: and it's like if the whole world is singing your song, 1126 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,760 Speaker 2: but the Bay Area is like this, don't feel like they're. 1127 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,280 Speaker 6: Bad, right, Yeah, when. 1128 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:51,960 Speaker 4: You speak about it, that's how it feels to me. 1129 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's how it felt for some church people. So 1130 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,960 Speaker 7: we spent some years trying to convince. If we would 1131 00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,120 Speaker 7: do a church event or a conference or something, we 1132 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,520 Speaker 7: would spend years trying. We would try to convince them 1133 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,880 Speaker 7: how churchy we were. I remember we did a National 1134 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:08,640 Speaker 7: Baptist convention. When I tell you, they was like, and 1135 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:09,960 Speaker 7: we tried to wear our church is. 1136 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,719 Speaker 6: You know, let the dress. We're not gonna wear leather 1137 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,960 Speaker 6: pants today. We're gonna you know what I'm saying, we 1138 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 6: don't know. 1139 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,640 Speaker 7: We tried to wear our church is and they still 1140 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 7: was like, I mean, they invited us, you know, they 1141 00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:21,400 Speaker 7: gave us a. 1142 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:25,080 Speaker 6: Little love offering, but it was it was just interesting. 1143 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:33,560 Speaker 4: And shackles don't make you move. But I'm saying already. 1144 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,239 Speaker 5: It's it's you. 1145 00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,720 Speaker 6: But you know, you know, every song. 1146 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,919 Speaker 2: Isn't for everything objective. For sure, music is subjective. But 1147 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,000 Speaker 2: that beat so was the kick in saying. 1148 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,400 Speaker 1: This right here on shackles. 1149 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:49,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, you a hater. 1150 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,480 Speaker 1: You a hater, ain't no God in you. 1151 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,160 Speaker 7: I mean, maybe they more Mama Shirley, you know what 1152 00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,239 Speaker 7: I'm saying, Maybe they more quartet, you know. 1153 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 2: But I'm sure from from from from your eyes and 1154 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,799 Speaker 2: your sister's eyes too had to be like this don't 1155 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:05,360 Speaker 2: make sense. 1156 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,719 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, you know when we would go to 1157 00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:13,319 Speaker 7: we went to a Gospel award, and you know, our 1158 00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 7: seats was like way in the back. 1159 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,960 Speaker 6: And this is after Shackles. Is Shackles in the world. 1160 00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,800 Speaker 7: Top five in the world, not just gospel charts or 1161 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,560 Speaker 7: pop charts or R and B in the world, and 1162 00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:27,120 Speaker 7: they still kind of just we never performed Shackles. We 1163 00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 7: didn't perform Shackles on the Stellar Awards until. 1164 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,640 Speaker 6: We did The Mary. Mary's been here for twenty years. 1165 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,960 Speaker 7: Most of our big songs didn't get performed on that 1166 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:38,280 Speaker 7: award show. 1167 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:40,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's wild. 1168 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,360 Speaker 7: I mean, but it's fine. I mean, here's how I 1169 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,640 Speaker 7: look at it. Everybody's music is coming out. I can't 1170 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,040 Speaker 7: let my ego say, oh, I'm supposed to be here, maybe. 1171 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:49,919 Speaker 6: It's somebody else's turn. 1172 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 7: Because here's what I know for sure, there's never a 1173 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,080 Speaker 7: moment in heaven when God is saying I'm meant for 1174 00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,839 Speaker 7: Eric to have that, but darn it, somebody else took 1175 00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:58,399 Speaker 7: it from her. 1176 00:55:58,600 --> 00:55:59,840 Speaker 6: That means it's not my time. 1177 00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,160 Speaker 7: But when it is my time, I'm gonna make sure 1178 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:04,960 Speaker 7: I give it everything I have. So I become a 1179 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,279 Speaker 7: solo artist right start doing Erica Campbell. Tina says she 1180 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,719 Speaker 7: wants to take a break. That's two thirteen. 1181 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, how do you get into Is it just I 1182 00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:14,520 Speaker 3: need I need some time. 1183 00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,319 Speaker 6: It's I need some time with my family. You know. 1184 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,640 Speaker 7: During the show it's made the last two seasons, Mary 1185 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,080 Speaker 7: May is a lot, very busy. 1186 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,000 Speaker 6: It's a lot going on, a lot of decisions. By 1187 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:28,200 Speaker 6: this time, we have children. 1188 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,919 Speaker 7: You know, we're working. I got three kids, she got 1189 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,160 Speaker 7: five kids. You know, we're trying to do all the things. 1190 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,520 Speaker 7: But I feel like I'm supposed to keep going. So 1191 00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 7: we do a little more Jesus, which very different from 1192 00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,359 Speaker 7: the last songs. The last two songs of Mary Mary 1193 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,319 Speaker 7: was God and Me and go get It. So we 1194 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,799 Speaker 7: do a little more Jesus with this kind of rock 1195 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:50,600 Speaker 7: church combination. And I get invited to sing on the 1196 00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:54,200 Speaker 7: Stellear Awards. Well, first I didn't. I'm not going to 1197 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,879 Speaker 7: change that. I didn't get invited. We asked can Erica 1198 00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,560 Speaker 7: Campbell perform? Well, we don't know Erica Campbell by herself. 1199 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,960 Speaker 7: And I'm like, I hosted it three times though I 1200 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:06,759 Speaker 7: hop about twenty two Stellars at home. 1201 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:07,239 Speaker 6: You know me. 1202 00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,640 Speaker 3: Hold on, so holdo, we gotta cut this. 1203 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,440 Speaker 6: So no, no, no, let me tell you. No, I'm 1204 00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:16,880 Speaker 6: gonna tell you. 1205 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 7: I'm gonna tell you why this all makes sense. So 1206 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,320 Speaker 7: they said, we don't know you by yourself, But that 1207 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,480 Speaker 7: is the same thing my husband said, I don't know 1208 00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,640 Speaker 7: your voice by itself because i've heard you with your sister. 1209 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,200 Speaker 6: Greatly offended at both him and them, but it was 1210 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,600 Speaker 6: the truth. He said, you got two options. 1211 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,040 Speaker 7: Be mad and don't do it, and tell this story 1212 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,640 Speaker 7: forever how somebody didn't believe in you, or go and 1213 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,720 Speaker 7: sing like you're losing your mind. Treat it like this 1214 00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,560 Speaker 7: is the Erica Campbell Show. Treat it like everybody there 1215 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,760 Speaker 7: only wants to see you. So I had a custom outfit. 1216 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:54,080 Speaker 7: I had Lorianne come with choreographer performance. You know, I 1217 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,440 Speaker 7: had a lighting person come check out the lighting. Now, 1218 00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,560 Speaker 7: mind you, they only gave me a minute in thirty 1219 00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:05,400 Speaker 7: four secs. So I said, okay, a minute in thirty 1220 00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,000 Speaker 7: four second cause they don't know me by myself, So 1221 00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,880 Speaker 7: let me go and let you see who I am 1222 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:14,479 Speaker 7: by myself. So it's a collabor collaborative performance with three 1223 00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,439 Speaker 7: other artists that were relatively new and so I didn't 1224 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:18,360 Speaker 7: just do the lighting for me. 1225 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,680 Speaker 6: I said, make us all look good. I didn't just 1226 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:21,240 Speaker 6: do it for me. 1227 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,760 Speaker 7: I said, well in the end, then we all sing 1228 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,600 Speaker 7: it together, and it's a moment for female gospel artists. 1229 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,840 Speaker 7: I didn't make it all about me. I remember being 1230 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,240 Speaker 7: in the back and one of my good friends was 1231 00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:30,520 Speaker 7: in the back. 1232 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:31,720 Speaker 6: He was like, man, this is whack. 1233 00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:33,920 Speaker 7: They shouldn't you should have had your whole moment. I 1234 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 7: was like, it's cool, I'm gonna take it. I was 1235 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,760 Speaker 7: on time the sound check. I showed up and spoke 1236 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:39,480 Speaker 7: to everybody. 1237 00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,280 Speaker 6: I said thank you to them for having me. 1238 00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,560 Speaker 7: You know how rehearsals at TV shows go, you know recordings. 1239 00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,480 Speaker 7: You're gonna sit there. You're gonna it's hurry up and wait, 1240 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,040 Speaker 7: we need you hear three. But you're not gonna sing 1241 00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 7: the four forty five, right. So I sat there and 1242 00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,000 Speaker 7: I was just as polite to everybody. I could be 1243 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:58,280 Speaker 7: polite too, And then I sung my song and the 1244 00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,080 Speaker 7: room was blessed and God did in the room what 1245 00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,360 Speaker 7: he wanted to do in the room. So it wasn't 1246 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,360 Speaker 7: I didn't want if I made it all about me, 1247 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,600 Speaker 7: then it was I only got a minute thirty four. 1248 00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,760 Speaker 7: You know, but I was like, Erica, don't make it 1249 00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 7: about you, right, because if God gave you this song, 1250 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,840 Speaker 7: then somebody needs to hear. I need a little more Jesus. 1251 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,800 Speaker 7: So you know, I came out. I had a little fascinator. 1252 00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:20,960 Speaker 7: I threw the head in the audience, and you know 1253 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:21,360 Speaker 7: what I'm saying. 1254 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:21,960 Speaker 5: I rocked out. 1255 00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:23,000 Speaker 6: I did everything that I was. 1256 00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:27,720 Speaker 7: You said, I'm not gonna say that. Why Campbell said 1257 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,640 Speaker 7: like this, He said, make it count. If you donna 1258 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,439 Speaker 7: leave your house, make it count. 1259 00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,560 Speaker 6: Don't go and waste your time. Have I wasted my 1260 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:34,760 Speaker 6: time a few times? 1261 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:35,360 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1262 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,560 Speaker 7: You know, because when you're naturally gifted, maybe you don't 1263 00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,440 Speaker 7: rehearse as much, and maybe you are a little laden. 1264 00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:41,640 Speaker 7: Maybe you don't do this, and you know, maybe you 1265 00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:42,920 Speaker 7: don't do that. And he was like you, that's a 1266 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:47,520 Speaker 7: waste of time. Go and be professional. Treat it like 1267 00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:50,400 Speaker 7: a privilege that somebody thinks enough of your talent that 1268 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,360 Speaker 7: I want to pay you to come and sing for 1269 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,960 Speaker 7: three minutes or thirty minutes or whatever it is. 1270 00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,720 Speaker 6: Like, nobody don't spend their day. I work an hour 1271 00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,200 Speaker 6: and I make this. Treat that with respect, you know, what. 1272 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 7: I'm saying, show up for the people that are excited 1273 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:04,919 Speaker 7: to see you, that maybe this is their first time 1274 01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,000 Speaker 7: seeing you. So I always wanted to treat it like that. 1275 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,000 Speaker 7: And I have great respect for the Stellar Awards. 1276 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,080 Speaker 6: I'm a huge gospel fan. 1277 01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,520 Speaker 7: I remember watching it on TV wishing that I could 1278 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,959 Speaker 7: be there. So I dare not turn my first time 1279 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,360 Speaker 7: to stand on the stage by myself into this thing 1280 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,320 Speaker 7: about me because they didn't receive me the way I 1281 01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,720 Speaker 7: wanted or the invitation didn't come the way I wanted. 1282 01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,520 Speaker 7: And then I started comparing myself. She's saying, and she saying, 1283 01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,560 Speaker 7: that's their story, this is mine. How You're gonna treat it, Erica. 1284 01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,840 Speaker 6: So I came and I did the best that I 1285 01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,640 Speaker 6: do could do. And the compliment that I love the 1286 01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:38,040 Speaker 6: most is we love working with her. It's a pleasure 1287 01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:42,600 Speaker 6: to work with her. So so then I came back 1288 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:43,160 Speaker 6: next year. 1289 01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,400 Speaker 7: In the next year, I was nominated for eight one 1290 01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,600 Speaker 7: all eight, and then the next. 1291 01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:54,280 Speaker 6: Year after that, I but had I treated them nasty? 1292 01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:55,320 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying for that. 1293 01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,800 Speaker 3: Minute and third you are giving a real lesson. 1294 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:00,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, and. 1295 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:06,120 Speaker 3: First being grateful, Let's start there for sure, being grateful, 1296 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,360 Speaker 3: but let God, let him work, let him do what 1297 01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:09,960 Speaker 3: he needs to do. 1298 01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:11,760 Speaker 7: Get out of the way with your attitude in your 1299 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,600 Speaker 7: mouth and you're going live and you're posting and you. 1300 01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:18,400 Speaker 4: Like and like. 1301 01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:20,680 Speaker 7: Now nobody wants to invite you because that means you 1302 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:21,200 Speaker 7: can't take no. 1303 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:22,120 Speaker 6: You're a spoiled kid. 1304 01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:23,040 Speaker 1: I can. 1305 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,600 Speaker 7: I can take a yes, and I can take a no. Well, no, 1306 01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:26,800 Speaker 7: she's not suited for the show. 1307 01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:27,560 Speaker 6: That's okay. 1308 01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,640 Speaker 7: I'll be shooting suited for another one because there's always 1309 01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:30,200 Speaker 7: another show. 1310 01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,720 Speaker 2: Then I'm gonna get invited, and I'm gonna come with 1311 01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,520 Speaker 2: a good spirit and I'm gonna cook and I'm. 1312 01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:47,160 Speaker 10: Gonna so okay. 1313 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:50,360 Speaker 7: So fast forward to its twenty twenty three releasing the 1314 01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,840 Speaker 7: I Love You record, which I am immensely proud of, 1315 01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:56,400 Speaker 7: was my last record nominated for a Grammy. We didn't 1316 01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:00,320 Speaker 7: get the Grammy, went to the Stellars, nominated for two Gsmies, 1317 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:06,560 Speaker 7: nominated for about six Stellars, So Warren wins for producer. 1318 01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:08,720 Speaker 7: They went for the video, but the one that I wanted, 1319 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:10,120 Speaker 7: the Album of the Year, I didn't get. 1320 01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:11,960 Speaker 6: So my kids are here with me. It's a moment. 1321 01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,000 Speaker 7: My kids are fabulous. Stout by Jay Bowlin. We do 1322 01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,680 Speaker 7: this photo shoot like it's amazing. The pictures go viral, 1323 01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:17,600 Speaker 7: all the moments go viral. 1324 01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:19,560 Speaker 6: But I didn't win. So when we get back to 1325 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,840 Speaker 6: the room, my kids are talking to me. There's always 1326 01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:22,840 Speaker 6: a moment to learn, right. 1327 01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,280 Speaker 7: So while I believe in that record, I know that 1328 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,080 Speaker 7: I Love You record is powerful because my aim was 1329 01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:29,960 Speaker 7: to make a love deposit in the world, to take 1330 01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,640 Speaker 7: a different look at God's love, not based on is 1331 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:34,439 Speaker 7: my life. I love you because my life is good. 1332 01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,240 Speaker 7: I love you even my life is bad. So I 1333 01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:37,840 Speaker 7: Love You record is all of that. So I've been 1334 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:39,080 Speaker 7: speaking that to my children. 1335 01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:43,360 Speaker 6: We're in the room and they said, Mimmy, how do 1336 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:44,960 Speaker 6: you feel. I said, I'm sad because I didn't win, 1337 01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,080 Speaker 6: you know, And so they're like, that's not fair. 1338 01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:52,640 Speaker 7: And but the people who did win are my friends, 1339 01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:54,880 Speaker 7: and I'm super happy for them because the record is fire. 1340 01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,720 Speaker 7: So I'm not a hater at all, but I still 1341 01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,400 Speaker 7: want to win, so I have to regulate my motions. 1342 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,280 Speaker 7: It was the same way when we were at the Grammys, Like, 1343 01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:03,960 Speaker 7: you know, me and Warren left and we were just 1344 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,680 Speaker 7: a little quiet, you know what I'm saying. So I 1345 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,880 Speaker 7: believe God allows me to have great moments and then 1346 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,720 Speaker 7: real moments, human moments, low moments to see. Okay, so 1347 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:13,840 Speaker 7: you're real happy when I'm good to you, You're real 1348 01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:16,760 Speaker 7: happy when you win in are you still grateful when 1349 01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,760 Speaker 7: it's not your turn? You know what I'm saying. Everybody 1350 01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,440 Speaker 7: got to take an L. The l's make the winds 1351 01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,720 Speaker 7: much better. So you know, while I'm still working this, 1352 01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:27,560 Speaker 7: I love you record. I still believe in it. I 1353 01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:29,960 Speaker 7: still know it was powerful. It didn't do what I 1354 01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:32,880 Speaker 7: thought it would do. Well, maybe that wasn't God's assignment 1355 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,760 Speaker 7: for it. Maybe it is a resurgence of it, the 1356 01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:39,760 Speaker 7: same way like walking with viral like four five times 1357 01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:43,080 Speaker 7: after the record in two thousand and eight because of TikTok. 1358 01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:49,600 Speaker 2: I was gonna ask, was that like churches. 1359 01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,000 Speaker 5: Along no walking? 1360 01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:55,840 Speaker 1: I just don't know. It could be. 1361 01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:02,000 Speaker 6: You know what I love about Cali worship. 1362 01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,680 Speaker 7: We have a guy that somebody can be shouting like 1363 01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,560 Speaker 7: traditional church child, and it's another guy who's break dancing. 1364 01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,040 Speaker 7: It's somebody else who's crip walking in the back. So 1365 01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:11,720 Speaker 7: your praise is your praise, So yes. 1366 01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:18,800 Speaker 3: And I've seen it only in l A. I'm somebody 1367 01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:21,520 Speaker 3: talking about the gangster, the Gospel. 1368 01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,880 Speaker 6: Of l A we talk about and they love Jesus 1369 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:24,800 Speaker 6: at the forum. 1370 01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,680 Speaker 1: I see it all at the same time. 1371 01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:35,120 Speaker 4: I don't know what you want I'm gonna do. 1372 01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. The crip Walking is 1373 01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:37,959 Speaker 1: way more cool. 1374 01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:41,320 Speaker 4: I think it's Big Beef. Does he go to your church? 1375 01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:45,479 Speaker 4: Big No, I don't think Big Beef church. 1376 01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:52,360 Speaker 7: But they're talking to Warren on the side for you 1377 01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:54,120 Speaker 7: around who they keep looking at. 1378 01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:55,080 Speaker 1: Great moment. 1379 01:04:56,360 --> 01:05:00,520 Speaker 4: Episode, Gosh, Jesus. 1380 01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:00,640 Speaker 1: No. 1381 01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,160 Speaker 2: But I mean, you know, we've seen some interesting people, 1382 01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:07,120 Speaker 2: you know, and I can understand how walking with viral. 1383 01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,200 Speaker 7: And it's everybody like it's it's all kinds of people. 1384 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,000 Speaker 7: And I think that it's just my responsibility to put 1385 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,000 Speaker 7: it out there, you know what I'm saying, and whoever 1386 01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:20,320 Speaker 7: receives it receives it. Some will someone look like church 1387 01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,360 Speaker 7: for everybody. It's for it's literally for everybody. Are you 1388 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,040 Speaker 7: gonna tell me I can sing about God, but you 1389 01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:25,760 Speaker 7: can't listen to it. 1390 01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:26,840 Speaker 6: Everybody could listen to you. 1391 01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:28,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, how many. 1392 01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:30,720 Speaker 6: Twenty seven? 1393 01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:33,040 Speaker 3: How many Grammys? 1394 01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:33,840 Speaker 1: Five? 1395 01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,360 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna come by your house. I can admire 1396 01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:43,400 Speaker 4: one day because you know, your husband has another twenty seven. 1397 01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:50,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a blessing. You know, it's so bad. 1398 01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:51,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, we do have a trophy. 1399 01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:55,680 Speaker 5: Room, won't he do it? 1400 01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:55,960 Speaker 3: Room? 1401 01:05:56,160 --> 01:06:10,280 Speaker 8: Won't deliver a load, deliver a law deliver Alon. 1402 01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:11,280 Speaker 4: I'm learning everything. 1403 01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:12,720 Speaker 5: I'm learning every time. 1404 01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:16,000 Speaker 4: There's grace for us all. Thank God for grace. 1405 01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:19,800 Speaker 1: I listen, thank God for grace. My goodness. 1406 01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,400 Speaker 4: Amen, we were living under. 1407 01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:29,000 Speaker 1: The law, earth opening up and the fire burning. 1408 01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:34,760 Speaker 6: You know some people, don't they He will be right 1409 01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:36,160 Speaker 6: here because you. 1410 01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:37,760 Speaker 1: Don't even got to you already know. 1411 01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:39,720 Speaker 6: Listen, I need the piece of gud. 1412 01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,360 Speaker 1: Listen, I know where that north star is. 1413 01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:58,160 Speaker 6: Absolutely, Amen, Amen, come on, he's so dramatic. 1414 01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:09,400 Speaker 3: First lady sister, he can't believe. We are grateful that 1415 01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:14,480 Speaker 3: you are here on today, and now is the time 1416 01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:21,400 Speaker 3: that the people need to hear from you. They want 1417 01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:30,040 Speaker 3: to know the music that has shape and made. 1418 01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:30,480 Speaker 8: Who you are. 1419 01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:40,400 Speaker 3: Your favorites, my favorites. We call that your m HM. 1420 01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:46,400 Speaker 1: Five, your top. 1421 01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:55,240 Speaker 2: Five, top five, your top five. 1422 01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:57,960 Speaker 1: O the singers. 1423 01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:07,760 Speaker 11: RnB song he rock it out, you yallson, dude, they're 1424 01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,680 Speaker 11: on the show that everybody knows. 1425 01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:20,040 Speaker 8: Yes, talk. 1426 01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:26,120 Speaker 10: You. 1427 01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:40,920 Speaker 9: Oh my god, that was so dumb. Oh was I finished? 1428 01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:48,160 Speaker 9: I'm so sick of you right now? 1429 01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:53,040 Speaker 6: Oh god, five that's hard camel. 1430 01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:54,599 Speaker 4: Is it all females? 1431 01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:55,320 Speaker 6: A female male? 1432 01:08:55,479 --> 01:09:00,719 Speaker 3: Top five R and B singers instead, or live your list, 1433 01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:11,680 Speaker 3: you pray, man, what you do, whatever you want, what 1434 01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,880 Speaker 3: you did? 1435 01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:15,840 Speaker 6: Or alive. 1436 01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:18,800 Speaker 8: Jeff R and B, not R and B. 1437 01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:23,479 Speaker 2: That is gonna put up whatever started army. The voices, artists, 1438 01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:23,840 Speaker 2: the voice. 1439 01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:24,760 Speaker 4: The voices first. 1440 01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:30,200 Speaker 6: The first one that comes to mind is Donny Hathaway. 1441 01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:37,519 Speaker 6: Just the warmth, the runs, the the tone, the texture, 1442 01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:42,439 Speaker 6: the pain. Whitney got. 1443 01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:49,559 Speaker 7: I'm ask you a little younger, I say, Jasmine Sullivan 1444 01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:57,040 Speaker 7: up hm hmm, Okay, I got two more? 1445 01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:03,479 Speaker 6: Oh man, this is not fair. Roberta flat mm hmm, 1446 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:05,080 Speaker 6: roberta flat. 1447 01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:06,679 Speaker 3: Yes, that's nice. 1448 01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:10,080 Speaker 6: She don't have to holler, she just she just she's 1449 01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:14,040 Speaker 6: so soothing, you know. I got one more? 1450 01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:17,519 Speaker 3: Hungh mmm, more voice? 1451 01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:18,320 Speaker 6: What did I say? 1452 01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:23,200 Speaker 4: I said, Whitney Whitney zz jazz. 1453 01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:28,320 Speaker 6: Voices to meet it. 1454 01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:28,720 Speaker 3: I like. 1455 01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,960 Speaker 6: Not that has the biggest records, in the biggest songs 1456 01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:35,120 Speaker 6: with the voice. This is yours, this is mine. 1457 01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:39,639 Speaker 3: When you turn on your cassette, you what you want 1458 01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:39,880 Speaker 3: to hear? 1459 01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:44,400 Speaker 4: H oh a cassette. 1460 01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:49,760 Speaker 6: He went way back, okay, can I said, not too 1461 01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:50,400 Speaker 6: long ago? 1462 01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:51,799 Speaker 1: I saw one. 1463 01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,080 Speaker 6: Somebody had a cassette for me to side. 1464 01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:58,320 Speaker 3: You because. 1465 01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:07,720 Speaker 4: Stephen, come on, Steve, did you right there? 1466 01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:11,200 Speaker 3: And remember that time when uh, what's what's my guy 1467 01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:17,880 Speaker 3: with the glasses from from overseas older artists? Remember when 1468 01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:21,080 Speaker 3: Elmon John actually didn't have a song to see Stevie 1469 01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,160 Speaker 3: on his birthday and he just made up. 1470 01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,559 Speaker 1: A song Steve there s. 1471 01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:32,840 Speaker 5: You wonderfull. 1472 01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:38,480 Speaker 1: We thank you because you wonder. 1473 01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:40,200 Speaker 3: Steve. 1474 01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:46,800 Speaker 6: Steve like he just do this, mister, happy birthday to you. 1475 01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:51,760 Speaker 7: You could have song song ste there. He wanted to 1476 01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:55,240 Speaker 7: create his own you wonderfull songwriter. 1477 01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:59,120 Speaker 4: And I too like that. I can enjoy it. 1478 01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:03,799 Speaker 1: Paard something five R and B songs. 1479 01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:11,320 Speaker 6: It had me crying. It was James Ingram, what James say? 1480 01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:17,360 Speaker 6: And I just couldn't stop. And I have a great 1481 01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:21,920 Speaker 6: James Ingram story. I was singing on an event with James, 1482 01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:26,040 Speaker 6: Stevie and Natalie Cole. 1483 01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,320 Speaker 4: He's just gonna pour all the champagne the. 1484 01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,599 Speaker 6: Opening for this show, and I'm like in my mind, 1485 01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:36,479 Speaker 6: I keep going, what am I doing here? What am 1486 01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:37,360 Speaker 6: I doing here? 1487 01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:38,240 Speaker 3: Wow? 1488 01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:42,519 Speaker 7: And right before the curtain goes up. They were honoring 1489 01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:47,040 Speaker 7: Lionel Richie James Ingram grabs my hand and says, you're 1490 01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:50,320 Speaker 7: supposed to be here too, and it just allowed me 1491 01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:54,599 Speaker 7: to just take a different loud No, I didn't say anything. 1492 01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:57,639 Speaker 7: He could just I guess he could feel my I'm 1493 01:12:57,720 --> 01:12:59,280 Speaker 7: looking at Natalie Cole, I'm looking. 1494 01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,400 Speaker 6: I'm like, what the heck am I doing here? And 1495 01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:04,519 Speaker 6: I'm not even with Tina, I'm by myself. This was 1496 01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:06,639 Speaker 6: way before I was solo. I was pregnant with my son, 1497 01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,439 Speaker 6: so I was like, I was like, what the heck 1498 01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:12,160 Speaker 6: am I doing here? And he said, you're supposed to 1499 01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:12,519 Speaker 6: be here? 1500 01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:20,160 Speaker 2: Oh man, yes, one hundred ways. 1501 01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:21,840 Speaker 3: Yes. 1502 01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:24,679 Speaker 6: M Or how do you keep the music playing? 1503 01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:24,840 Speaker 3: Is? 1504 01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:25,760 Speaker 4: How do you keep the music? 1505 01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:27,240 Speaker 6: How do you keep the music? 1506 01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:31,680 Speaker 7: Him and Patty Austin, It's like it's magical what they 1507 01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:35,800 Speaker 7: do with the message and the melodies, and so you 1508 01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:37,599 Speaker 7: got to give a shout out to Quincy Jones, right, 1509 01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,479 Speaker 7: But it's just that's definitely one of my top. 1510 01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:42,679 Speaker 6: R and B songs. That's a that's a good question. 1511 01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,920 Speaker 7: Top five R and B songs? I would say one 1512 01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:51,360 Speaker 7: of my favorite is It's It's a It's a well, Joe, 1513 01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:53,800 Speaker 7: all the things you man want to do. 1514 01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:56,080 Speaker 6: Yes, that's a good song. 1515 01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:59,080 Speaker 1: I've seen him sing that song live so many times. 1516 01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:00,840 Speaker 1: You never miss it. 1517 01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:04,200 Speaker 4: You don't miss he does not miss never, he does 1518 01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:04,679 Speaker 4: not miss. 1519 01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:12,240 Speaker 6: He is by Brandy m. The genius of Warren Campbell. Yeah, 1520 01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:16,760 Speaker 6: I would just say, oh, Warren Campbell's song. That's what 1521 01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:18,600 Speaker 6: I should say, because why not. 1522 01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:21,439 Speaker 4: Because WARRENM. 1523 01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:25,640 Speaker 3: No. 1524 01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:29,599 Speaker 7: But what he did for Tyrese with Shamee was amazing. 1525 01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:34,559 Speaker 7: And when he tells about that, how old the song was, like, oh, 1526 01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:35,719 Speaker 7: let me just pull. 1527 01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:40,120 Speaker 1: This song out of the the song Tiki could have 1528 01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:41,360 Speaker 1: sang that song. 1529 01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:47,519 Speaker 3: That it was Are you teaky? 1530 01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:50,559 Speaker 6: Are you not the producer? 1531 01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:57,519 Speaker 3: That's that's how amazing from top to bottom that song. 1532 01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:03,640 Speaker 3: That's the song is not defined by a person. The 1533 01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:09,280 Speaker 3: song is a stand alone standard that by itself will 1534 01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:10,479 Speaker 3: stand the test the time. 1535 01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:14,000 Speaker 6: Absolutely absolutely, and I think that's why it did what 1536 01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:18,080 Speaker 6: it did. Yes, special what Okay. 1537 01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:20,840 Speaker 4: That's three that's salone that song. 1538 01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:23,880 Speaker 6: No, but listen, that's what makes a great song great. 1539 01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:24,880 Speaker 6: Anybody can sing. 1540 01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:30,960 Speaker 1: DJ Roer song. 1541 01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:35,679 Speaker 3: And Warren Campbell's song, and Tyree did an amazing job 1542 01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,040 Speaker 3: absolutely singing that song. 1543 01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:38,880 Speaker 6: Absolutely. 1544 01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:40,720 Speaker 1: But to me there are something. 1545 01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:46,280 Speaker 2: But to me, some. 1546 01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:47,760 Speaker 3: Songs are just. 1547 01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:51,160 Speaker 1: Like like I can't make you love me. 1548 01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,839 Speaker 3: Of course the originator is, but then you go to Prince, 1549 01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:58,800 Speaker 3: and then you go to voice to me, and then 1550 01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:01,479 Speaker 3: then you come away, and then then you go to 1551 01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:04,080 Speaker 3: everyone who's been on American Idol and it's like, but 1552 01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:04,519 Speaker 3: that's what. 1553 01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,719 Speaker 7: That's what makes a great song when everybody can singing 1554 01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,559 Speaker 7: and it's still yeah, you know what I'm saying. 1555 01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:12,320 Speaker 6: That's those ye competition songs. 1556 01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:14,400 Speaker 4: I start telling young fellas when they come sing and 1557 01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:18,160 Speaker 4: they want to sing live. Can you sing shame? How 1558 01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:20,639 Speaker 4: about that? Sing shamee? 1559 01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:23,880 Speaker 1: Can you get into your low? Can you get down? 1560 01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:24,560 Speaker 3: You know what? 1561 01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:25,559 Speaker 4: Three songs I'm talking about? 1562 01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:25,720 Speaker 1: Two? 1563 01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:28,360 Speaker 4: You keep singing these singing three songs and you sing 1564 01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:28,800 Speaker 4: for us? 1565 01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:29,200 Speaker 6: No? 1566 01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:33,000 Speaker 4: No, no, sing shame? How about that sing or single 1567 01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:36,759 Speaker 4: Luther song and executing Luthor? 1568 01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:40,160 Speaker 1: Okay, get out of your of your top top five songs. 1569 01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:42,120 Speaker 3: I know what you're doing. You're trying to think while you. 1570 01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:45,600 Speaker 1: Smart what you. 1571 01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:50,400 Speaker 3: Oh? 1572 01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:55,160 Speaker 6: It's okay, you more, okay, Okay. This is a young one. 1573 01:16:56,080 --> 01:17:01,200 Speaker 6: And I would have to say p J Morton, we 1574 01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:05,960 Speaker 6: love we love PJ. Don't we but Pj's gumbo record. 1575 01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:10,280 Speaker 4: First Begin mm hmm. 1576 01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:14,320 Speaker 7: First Begin is a great song, and I don't know 1577 01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:17,800 Speaker 7: where it charted or but first Begin it's such a 1578 01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:21,680 Speaker 7: great song lyrically, the way he sang it, I mean, 1579 01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:25,760 Speaker 7: his voice is already special, right, we know that. But yeah, 1580 01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:29,519 Speaker 7: that's my jam. It's definitely one of my playlists. Gospel, 1581 01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:30,320 Speaker 7: not my gospel. 1582 01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:33,120 Speaker 2: I got my love playlist in my mind, raunchy pray 1583 01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:36,879 Speaker 2: list play listen, it's Warren Campbell playlist. 1584 01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,080 Speaker 6: It's not as thanksified as I am. I'm savor in 1585 01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:51,439 Speaker 6: my baylist sometime. Oh what's that? I don't want to 1586 01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:52,519 Speaker 6: bore you with it, but I love you. 1587 01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:52,880 Speaker 3: I love you. 1588 01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:53,240 Speaker 4: I love you. 1589 01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:56,000 Speaker 6: That's not knocks me off my feet. Yeah, knocks me 1590 01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:59,160 Speaker 6: off my feet for sure, some of these songs. 1591 01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:04,599 Speaker 3: Okay, I love that. I'm just saying. 1592 01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:07,439 Speaker 6: I like I love that. 1593 01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:11,040 Speaker 1: I like down there, Jon, I like down there. 1594 01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:11,679 Speaker 4: Yes. 1595 01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:12,360 Speaker 8: Cool. 1596 01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:19,160 Speaker 3: When somebody says, Steve, you don't don't know, don't do that, 1597 01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:21,280 Speaker 3: don't throw that man that smoke like that, don't do that. 1598 01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:25,799 Speaker 1: Put that man in that fire. Fire a better. 1599 01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:27,960 Speaker 3: Okay. 1600 01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:31,880 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we got one more segment for you. 1601 01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:35,240 Speaker 6: Okay, what's happening? 1602 01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:37,720 Speaker 4: Come on, I'm sick you. 1603 01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,719 Speaker 1: I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no names. 1604 01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:48,000 Speaker 1: I ain't saying no names. Ain't saying no names. What 1605 01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:51,040 Speaker 1: you did your class crazy? 1606 01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:56,639 Speaker 5: That's what you said. 1607 01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:09,599 Speaker 2: He a special segment of the It's called saying names. Okay, 1608 01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:11,000 Speaker 2: will you tell us a story? 1609 01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:12,120 Speaker 1: Funny? 1610 01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:13,400 Speaker 2: Are m? 1611 01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:14,639 Speaker 6: H okay? 1612 01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,120 Speaker 4: Are funny and foolish. 1613 01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:19,559 Speaker 3: People that watch the. 1614 01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:21,840 Speaker 4: Show every week? I'll be saying some other stuff. 1615 01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:31,599 Speaker 5: When extremely extremely right, look at God. 1616 01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:35,120 Speaker 4: The only rue to the game is you can't say 1617 01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:35,559 Speaker 4: no names. 1618 01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:35,880 Speaker 3: Okay. 1619 01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:42,519 Speaker 7: So I'm singing background for an artist and it's an 1620 01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:44,640 Speaker 7: event worth a bunch of you know, R and B 1621 01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:46,160 Speaker 7: singers and. 1622 01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:48,760 Speaker 6: Not married at the time. 1623 01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,360 Speaker 7: And we get back to the hotel after the venu 1624 01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:57,600 Speaker 7: and I'm in the elevator about three R and B 1625 01:19:57,760 --> 01:19:59,760 Speaker 7: artists and it's just me. 1626 01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,559 Speaker 6: And they start going in with she. 1627 01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:08,600 Speaker 4: Fine man right there though, right there? Thank you man, she. 1628 01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:15,200 Speaker 6: Oh, thank you. And one gets off he was like, oh, 1629 01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:18,400 Speaker 6: I'm on this floor. I was like, okay. Then the 1630 01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:22,360 Speaker 6: next one, who do y'all think I am? 1631 01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:26,880 Speaker 2: It was just I just got three separate invitations, and 1632 01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:30,040 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I think too much of myself. 1633 01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:32,400 Speaker 7: Some of them I had, you know, listening to their 1634 01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:34,120 Speaker 7: music and had crushes on. I was like, yeah, I 1635 01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:36,160 Speaker 7: think too much of myself to be one of them chicks. 1636 01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:40,320 Speaker 7: But yeah, they were remain nameless, but wow, yeah it was. 1637 01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:43,439 Speaker 7: It was in the eleventor it warned, don't make no 1638 01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:54,840 Speaker 7: one sound in that corner those kind of situations. I'm 1639 01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:57,599 Speaker 7: just a different kind of ship. I value myself too 1640 01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:00,720 Speaker 7: much in my reputation. So like, yeah, I'm gonna see 1641 01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:02,559 Speaker 7: you somewhere else and be trying to sing about Jesus 1642 01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:03,519 Speaker 7: and you're gonna be going. 1643 01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:07,839 Speaker 8: It alone. 1644 01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, what can I say? You just you're just dope. 1645 01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:19,920 Speaker 1: Thank you? 1646 01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:24,800 Speaker 3: You just there are so many heavenly words and descriptions 1647 01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:28,560 Speaker 3: to go along with it. But in the in, in 1648 01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:32,360 Speaker 3: in the in the interests of trying to encompass it 1649 01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:35,040 Speaker 3: all in a way that we would say it, you 1650 01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:39,360 Speaker 3: just don't thank you. I just you fired every every 1651 01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:41,360 Speaker 3: time every time I see you, and and and even 1652 01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:43,439 Speaker 3: the husband, I'll give him some some you know, it's 1653 01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:48,920 Speaker 3: it's it's about you though. It's just it's like some people, 1654 01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:52,600 Speaker 3: it's like it's just always good to see you. You 1655 01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:57,040 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, like it's energy, Like, uh, you know. 1656 01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:05,480 Speaker 7: It's that because you avoid unfortunately been many backstages. 1657 01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:09,760 Speaker 3: You'll be like and it's like you you you know, 1658 01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:13,280 Speaker 3: you know, you're you're amongst family, you know what I mean, 1659 01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:16,400 Speaker 3: you're amongst people that you know, hey, if it go down, 1660 01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:17,640 Speaker 3: I know, so I guess some people in here that 1661 01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:18,200 Speaker 3: got in my back. 1662 01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:20,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, but you know, I just don't ever want to 1663 01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:24,160 Speaker 7: be the gospel artist, the Jesus girl, the church girl, 1664 01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:26,439 Speaker 7: to be like, yeah, she ain't really about that, sheep, 1665 01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:27,639 Speaker 7: that's just the stage. 1666 01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:29,000 Speaker 4: It's a whole different way. 1667 01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:31,439 Speaker 3: I don't think. Yeah, I don't. That's not even possible. 1668 01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:37,719 Speaker 3: You know, you're your your life precedes you in terms 1669 01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:40,479 Speaker 3: of like you know, they say in the street, ain't 1670 01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:41,479 Speaker 3: no smull on your name. 1671 01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:43,439 Speaker 6: I ain't perfect. 1672 01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:44,120 Speaker 3: No I don't. 1673 01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:46,160 Speaker 4: Nobody let me tell you you ain't. 1674 01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:50,679 Speaker 3: But there's a difference. There's a difference. There's a difference 1675 01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:53,400 Speaker 3: in us not being perfect and it's being human and 1676 01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:58,400 Speaker 3: and just being and being something else. No, I can't 1677 01:22:58,479 --> 01:22:59,840 Speaker 3: do that, you see what I'm saying. 1678 01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,120 Speaker 6: I can't do that. So the way my family is 1679 01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:04,840 Speaker 6: set up, they can see here smell one thing if 1680 01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:05,880 Speaker 6: you lost your what. 1681 01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:11,719 Speaker 3: Is like some of us still have that accountability system 1682 01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:14,439 Speaker 3: set up strong. My mama will call me and say, 1683 01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:15,360 Speaker 3: is that what we're doing? 1684 01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:16,639 Speaker 2: Right? 1685 01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:17,800 Speaker 1: My mom? Be the first time. 1686 01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:18,559 Speaker 3: I don't like that one. 1687 01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:20,800 Speaker 8: I don't like that. 1688 01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:24,840 Speaker 1: Gonna get you about dabling. I don't like that, Dorel. 1689 01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:25,479 Speaker 4: You have to do. 1690 01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:27,719 Speaker 6: You got to do what she said. You said, yo, who. 1691 01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:31,920 Speaker 1: No if my my younger cousins probably called mee tank 1692 01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,559 Speaker 1: put my mama, that's all. 1693 01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:35,920 Speaker 3: Right, you'll be back, You be back. 1694 01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:38,559 Speaker 1: Don't he gonna see you? Come on, you're gonna stop 1695 01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:39,160 Speaker 1: playing with him. 1696 01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:41,560 Speaker 2: Come on, you're gonna give him a complete Yet he 1697 01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:45,639 Speaker 2: out here with me and then comes showing up here. 1698 01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:48,799 Speaker 1: Absolutely you know I'm I'm on a mission. 1699 01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:50,840 Speaker 6: So then maybe you can't be the youth pastor. We'll 1700 01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:51,400 Speaker 6: talk to Warren. 1701 01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:58,880 Speaker 3: But and we we we we appreciate more than anything 1702 01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:02,360 Speaker 3: you're coming our way, hanging out with us and praying 1703 01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:06,880 Speaker 3: forst more important. Thank you. That's great, and I look 1704 01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:11,400 Speaker 3: I look forward. I look forward to to your acting journey. 1705 01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:15,600 Speaker 3: I look forward to that. I think that's gonna be really. 1706 01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:18,760 Speaker 4: Really really angela Baptist And. 1707 01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:25,719 Speaker 1: That was good. 1708 01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:29,960 Speaker 3: I got and I got it's crazy. I got something 1709 01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:31,160 Speaker 3: I'm working on right now. 1710 01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:37,680 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, we just talked about it last working on. 1711 01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:41,160 Speaker 1: Right there. 1712 01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:41,439 Speaker 4: It is. 1713 01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:43,799 Speaker 1: Ladies and Gentleman. 1714 01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:46,720 Speaker 3: My name is Tank and this is the R and 1715 01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:51,640 Speaker 3: B Money Podcast, the authority on all things I need it, 1716 01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:52,519 Speaker 3: ARM and B. 1717 01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:58,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, this has been a blessing that that's too long. 1718 01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:01,000 Speaker 8: Where's your balance? 1719 01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:07,799 Speaker 3: This has been a blessing from on high. 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