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Speaker 2: You know, I was thinking about that phrase perception is reality,

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Speaker 3: Today made me go, why why do we accept that?

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Speaker 2: We all know that perception is not reality, So why

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Speaker 2: Because at least two games today showed us that our

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Speaker 2: should be. I'm excited to talk to you, Kyle Rudolph

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Speaker 2: tonight and tomorrow on my show in the Bay Area

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Speaker 2: as well, because I'm not gonna say we're on opposite

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Speaker 2: sides of this one tomorrow night, but maybe a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to talk about that one with you

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Speaker 3: as well.

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Speaker 2: You can rep the Niners and and we'll talk it out.

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Speaker 3: But how we doing this evening?

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Speaker 1: Doing good?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 4: Certainly another wild Sunday in the NFL. I think that's

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Speaker 4: what makes this league so special. As you mentioned there

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Speaker 4: in the opener that you know, oftentimes you perceive to

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Speaker 4: have things figured out, and it's not always reality. And

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Speaker 4: I think there were a few teams today that you know,

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Speaker 4: they're not, and we were shown otherwise today.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what. I want to start with

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Speaker 2: one where I'm not necessarily even feeling that we've been

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Speaker 2: thinking a certain way about them this year. We've been

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Speaker 2: feeling a certain way about them for a number of years.

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Speaker 2: And this is not to say that this team is

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Speaker 2: not good, that this team is not a contender, but

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Speaker 2: there are head scratching realities right now about the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 2: And when I think about the way that we talk

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Speaker 2: be the position we speak of the most, which is

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Speaker 2: of course quarterback, whenever we have that little side comment

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Speaker 2: that we make about the elite and they are the

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Speaker 2: benchmark against which we compare everything else, it's like a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Have they reached the level of Mahomes and Allen? Have

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Speaker 2: they reached the level in the AFC where they can

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Speaker 2: contend like the Chiefs and the Bills? And I just

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Speaker 2: started thinking about this today and I'm like, why are

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Speaker 3: Why do we do that?

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs have been to three Super Bowls and won

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Speaker 2: a couple of them. Patrick Mahomes is the face of

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Speaker 2: the league. Meantime, Sure the Bills go to the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen is a phenomenal athlete. He wins fantasy games.

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Speaker 2: Why are we putting those two teams and those two

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Speaker 4: I think it goes to the playoff games that we've seen,

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Speaker 4: had that Divisional round game one multiple different times, yet

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Speaker 1: But I feel like that's.

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Speaker 4: Where you know, this year, you look at the AFC

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Speaker 4: coming into the season, everything was about those three teams,

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Speaker 4: the defending Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs. They always

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Speaker 4: matter Mahomes and Kelsey are there. Everything else will be fine.

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Speaker 4: You have the Buffalo Bills, and you had the Cincinnati Bengals,

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Speaker 4: and those are the three teams that we kind of

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Speaker 4: benefit of the doubt. To me, you know, my biggest

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Speaker 4: But you know, to me, it's you know, when you

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen is as talented as any quarterback in this league,

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Speaker 4: biggest issues with this Bill's team is on offense, it's

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Speaker 4: And it seems like that's been what we've talked about

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen didn't turn the ball over. You know, he

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Speaker 4: and it's like they don't have anything to take that

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Speaker 1: With the pick. But it's just I don't see.

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Speaker 4: That formula for Buffalo carrying them into a late January

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Speaker 1: Like we kind of all just assumed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I look at it. I feel like you just

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Speaker 2: nailed it. I was thinking about it. I look at him,

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Speaker 2: but right now they're not. You give up twenty nine

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's that's the biggest issue, you know,

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Speaker 4: you know. So I watch this Bills offense and you

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Speaker 4: see Dalton Kincaid. They drafted him in the first round.

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Speaker 4: first round. I'm not saying it applied to their offense.

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Speaker 4: I'm not seeing this Buffalo Bills offense put defenses in

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Speaker 4: Knox is a guy who has been successful in the

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Speaker 4: Kansas City to hang their hat on. You know, Gabe

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Speaker 4: Davis has one catch today. He's kind of always been

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Speaker 1: Game.

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Speaker 4: We talked about the defense in the past, that Leslie

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Speaker 4: Frasier led defense was always solid. You knew you could

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Speaker 4: we're just not seeing that. And again it's I don't

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned your position. I forgot to mention, uh,

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Speaker 2: happy National tight Ends Day to you.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely got a shout out to the tight ends today

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's it's funny. I remember like the first

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Speaker 4: only a way that George Kittle can show love to

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Speaker 4: where we look at ourselves as we're you know, big

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Speaker 4: and I certainly would love to see more out of

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Speaker 2: Well, and we're we're gonna see what maybe Dallas Goddard

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Speaker 2: night matchup in a little bit, but also stay in

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Speaker 2: the AFC because it is a day that with the

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Speaker 2: it's going to be another week of people going, oh man,

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs are just going to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: That's it and I and it's way too early for that.

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Speaker 2: But with the Bills being knockdown, let's see what the

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Speaker 2: Dolphins have in this one tonight in prime time. If

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Speaker 3: Be the way people feel.

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Speaker 2: But there are some teams laying in the weeds a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jalen Hurts versus two a Tugobailoa. Where have we

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Speaker 2: I feel like the Eagles have a little bit of

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Speaker 4: And then you mentioned Jalen's story going and leaving Alabama

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Speaker 4: Like he doesn't fit anything we do. You know, his

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Speaker 2: Okay, but let's also let's have a real conversation here.

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Speaker 4: Well, for me, it was watching they beat the Vikings

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Speaker 2: right now, although they for the moment have kind of

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Speaker 2: stalled for a third and goal from the nine.

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Speaker 3: We will keep you up to date on that and.

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Speaker 2: Discuss further those laying in the weeds a FC teams,

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Speaker 2: because there are at least a couple of them with

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Speaker 2: Kyle Rudolph Mark Willard, Fox Sports Radio. But let's get

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Speaker 2: the third member of our team in here tonight and

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Speaker 2: find out what's trending.

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Speaker 3: Martin Weiss is in and by with all the latest.

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Speaker 3: What's uping?

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Speaker 7: My brother had we doing doing well? Man ALCS Game

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Speaker 7: six underway right now. The Astros can clinch a World

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Speaker 7: Series birth with a win tonight. They came out scored

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Speaker 7: in the bottom of the first inning, but Mitch Garver

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Speaker 7: with the home run in the top of the second.

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Speaker 7: We're currently sitting in the top of the second, one out,

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Speaker 7: one on, tied one to one. An NFL action earlier today,

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Speaker 7: well actually right here NFL action and this moment Philadelphia

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Speaker 7: Eagles the field goal take a three to nothing lead

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Speaker 7: with seven to fifty left in the first quarter over

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Speaker 7: the Miami Dolphins. Now the NFL action from earlier today.

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Speaker 7: Jordan Love threw a late interception crust the Packers come

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Speaker 7: back attempt to Broncos victorious in that one, nineteen to seventeen.

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Speaker 7: Travis Kelce had twelve catches, one hundred and seventy nine

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Speaker 7: yards and a touchdown as his friend Taylor Swift watched

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Speaker 7: along as the Chiefs beat the Chargers thirty one to seventeen.

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Speaker 7: Rookies Jackson Smith and Jigmu and Jake Bobo both that

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Speaker 7: career first touchdowns as the Seahawks beat the Cardinals twenty

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Speaker 7: to ten. Brad Maher missed two field goals and an

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Speaker 7: extra point in his third game this season missing multiple

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Speaker 7: field goals. Steelers beat the Rams twenty four to seventeen.

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Speaker 7: Rookie Tyson Bagen gets a winning his first start as

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Speaker 7: the Bears beat the Raiders thirty to twelve. Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 7: twenty for twenty seven three fifty seven through the year,

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Speaker 7: three passing touchdowns plus thirty six rushing and a touchdown

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Speaker 7: on the ground. Ravens beat the Lions thirty eight to six.

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Speaker 7: Browns beat the Colts thirty nine to thirty eight. DeShawn

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Speaker 7: Watson start of the game clear to the concussion evaluation,

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Speaker 7: but did not return.

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Speaker 3: PJ.

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Speaker 7: Walker finished the game out. Although DeShawn does get the

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Speaker 7: win because he started. Bill Belichick got a win, his

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Speaker 7: three hundredth career win, making him the third winning this

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Speaker 7: coach in NFL history. Patriots upset the Bills twenty nine

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Speaker 7: to twenty five. Magic Johnson had this to say about

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Speaker 7: the commander's game quote, disappointing loss fourteen to seven for

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Speaker 7: my commanders to the NY Giants. It's hard to win

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Speaker 7: in the NFL when you only score seven points. That's

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Speaker 7: type of insight you'll get from Magic Johnson on X

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Speaker 7: or Twitter, whatever you'd like to call it. And the

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Speaker 7: Falcons walked off the Buccaneers sixteen to thirteen. Young Way

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Speaker 7: Coop with the game winning field goal. Atlanta in pole

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Speaker 7: position in the NFC South Mark back to you, Martin.

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Speaker 3: It's so true. Magic tweets are the best.

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Speaker 2: My prediction for his tweet would have been we lost

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Speaker 2: because the other team scored more points than us.

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Speaker 3: Bummer.

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Speaker 2: That's what I had gone with, but he adjusted it

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Speaker 2: a little bit. His was a little bit more intricate

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Speaker 2: than what he thought he was going to do. There's

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Speaker 2: nothing like a magic tweet when you can't understand something

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Speaker 2: in life and he simplifies it for you.

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Speaker 3: It's perfect.

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Speaker 4: I say that was basically the bottom line. Hard to

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Speaker 4: win the NFL when you score seven points.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that is true. It's hard to win when you

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Speaker 3: score fourteen. But the Giants did it.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, whatever, thank you Magic, and thank you Martin

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Speaker 2: Wise as well, speaking of Taylor Swift watching along as

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs defeated the Chargers at at Arrowhead Stadium today,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you noticed. I'm sure you did.

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Speaker 2: It's hard not to. It's been replayed every where. But

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Speaker 2: apparently Taylor has not just been working on her music,

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Speaker 2: but has been working on a little celebration dance with

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Speaker 2: Britney Mahomes. So if you are a high school teacher

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Speaker 2: or a middle school teacher, get ready, because I promise

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Speaker 2: you in the hallways tomorrow at school, you are going

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Speaker 2: to watch that little shimmy, shake, high five, ess, bounce

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Speaker 2: to the shoulder, whatever it was that Taylor and Britney

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Speaker 2: did up there in the suite. I guarantee you it's

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Speaker 2: going to be all over TikTok in an hour, if

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Speaker 2: not already.

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Speaker 1: No doubt about it.

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Speaker 4: It's awesome to see the wives and girlfriend they have

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Speaker 4: the same chemistry that it seems like Pat and Trav

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Speaker 4: have on the field, because that's fun to watch. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's you watch Trav today and you know, he had

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Speaker 4: over one hundred and forty yards in the first half,

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Speaker 4: and you know, he's just a guy who I've known

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Speaker 4: for a long time, and when you watch him, he

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Speaker 4: does things extremely unconventionally. You know, he's a guy who

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Speaker 4: just has an incredible feel for defenses, and you know,

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Speaker 4: with him and Patrick being on the same page, it

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Speaker 4: gives him the freedom to kind of add lib routes

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Speaker 4: and he's almost impossible to cover. You say, you know,

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Speaker 4: we're playing the Kansas City Chiefs. We got to take

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Speaker 4: away Travis Kelsey, we got to take the you know,

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Speaker 4: I guarantee you all week that's what the Chargers defense

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Speaker 4: was talking about, that's what they practice. And yet the

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Speaker 4: number one weapon on the Kansas City Chiefs went for

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Speaker 4: over one hundred and forty yards in the first half.

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Speaker 4: It's like, you know, just that's really a testament to

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Speaker 4: both Travis and Patrick and the chemistry that they have

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Speaker 4: and the ability that they have to add lib throughout

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Speaker 4: the course of the down and make things happen when

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Speaker 4: maybe the traditional play call wasn't.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 2: Just an amazing day for him. And I'm not bothered

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Speaker 2: by it. I know a lot of people are like,

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Speaker 2: all right, enough with all the tailor stuff. I'm like, no,

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Speaker 2: let's say it goods Taylor Swift. What you want to

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Speaker 2: pam to just some fame and you know, up in

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Speaker 2: the up in the top deck and get their reaction,

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Speaker 2: like there's no way around this. I love the story.

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Speaker 2: I think it's awesome. And you know, now he's gonna

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Speaker 2: travel right for his bye week. He's going to South

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Speaker 2: America for her concert. Look, don't be haters. The Travis

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Speaker 2: and Taylor thing whatever they're calling it. What's the combo name?

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Speaker 2: I wanted to go with Swelsea, but I don't think

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Speaker 2: that's what everybody chose. But whatever it is, like, we're

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Speaker 2: not putting the toothpaste back in the tube on this one.

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Speaker 3: The celebrity power is just too much.

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Speaker 4: It is, and certainly my seven year old twin daughters

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Speaker 4: were excited to They don't ever sit down and watch

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Speaker 4: football with me, and today when they saw Taylor on

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Speaker 4: the screen, they sat down and watched. I had to

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Speaker 4: explain to them why she was at the game. So

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Speaker 4: they were all excited and definitely rooting for the Chiefs

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Speaker 4: today because they got to see Taylor Swift on the

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Speaker 4: on the TV. So more power to the NFL for

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Speaker 4: showing her no doubt.

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Speaker 2: By the way, this is completely off subject, just but

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Speaker 2: just because of your time in the league, I want

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Speaker 2: you to tell me how something like this happens. Dolphins

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Speaker 2: have the ball for their first try, Eagles got a

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Speaker 2: field goal, as Martin said, So here comes the Dolphins

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Speaker 2: opening drive and they're fine. They had a nice completion

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Speaker 2: to Tyreek Hill there and they've got a first down,

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Speaker 2: just shy a midfield. But you work all week and

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Speaker 2: then you don't get the ball first. So you're just

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Speaker 2: sitting there kind of watching the game flow, and then

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Speaker 2: you go to commercial and then you come out and

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Speaker 2: here it is. It's Tua and Tyreek and Waddle and

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Speaker 2: Raheem and the rest of the gang, and everybody's already.

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Speaker 2: Here comes our opening drive against the Eagles. It's first

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Speaker 2: and ten. There go the flags delay a game. How

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Speaker 2: the hell does that happen?

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Speaker 3: Like? How is that possible.

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Speaker 2: You essentially had a week to get ready for this

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Speaker 2: play and you didn't snap the ball in time.

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Speaker 3: I don't understand well.

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Speaker 4: And those eleven guys have known that that's the first

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Speaker 4: play since at least yesterday morning, Like at some point

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Speaker 4: yesterday morning, the Dolphins offense had a meeting and they

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Speaker 4: went over the openers the first fifteen. You know, every

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Speaker 4: offensive coordinator, every play caller has it in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: They have either their first ten or first fifteen plays

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Speaker 4: that they're gonna call. And certainly you don't go down

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Speaker 4: that list one through ten or one through fifteen, because

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Speaker 4: you know there are third downs, and you know, maybe

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Speaker 4: you have a play that's designed to be called on

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Speaker 4: the right HASH and you have the ball on the

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Speaker 4: left hash. But there is one certainty unless you're backed

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Speaker 4: up inside your own five yard line. You know, say

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Speaker 4: the Eagles get the ball first and they you know,

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Speaker 4: drive to about midfield and punt it and pin it deep,

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Speaker 4: or you get a turnover and you get the ball

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Speaker 4: on like the one yard line and you call a

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Speaker 4: goal line package play with heavy personnel everything else in between.

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Speaker 4: It's almost I would say ninety eight percent certain you're

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Speaker 4: going to run the play that you've especially a night game.

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Speaker 4: So they met about it yesterday morning. They walked through

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Speaker 4: it yesterday at their facility before they got on the

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Speaker 4: plane and flew to Philly. Then they got to the

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Speaker 4: hotel last night and they met about it again.

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Speaker 1: Then they woke up this.

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Speaker 4: Morning and either had a walk through or a meeting

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Speaker 4: at the hotel this morning. So four different times in

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Speaker 4: the last twenty four call it thirty hours since yesterday morning,

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Speaker 4: that play has been ready to go, and you go

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Speaker 4: out and you know, it's like having a delay game

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Speaker 4: or a false start on the first play.

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Speaker 1: It's like, how does that happen? How?

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Speaker 2: How right after four meetings did someone really look at

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Speaker 2: someone else and go, wait.

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Speaker 3: What are we doing? God? Yeah, what was the play? Again?

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable But anyway, they were able to move the sticks,

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Speaker 2: but they were not able to move the sticks a

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Speaker 2: second time, and one of their big fellas, Isa win

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Speaker 2: with a little bit of an injury. He's walking off

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Speaker 2: right now, but the Dolphins are gonna have to kick

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Speaker 2: it back.

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Speaker 3: To the Eagles trailing three to nothing.

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Speaker 2: We're in the tyre Reck dot Com Studios, Mark Willard

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Speaker 2: Kyle Rudolph and I think each of us has an

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Speaker 2: AFC team that has impressed us right now that not

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Speaker 2: many are talking about. There are a few candidates, but

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Speaker 2: we'll get to that coming up next right here on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: DJ Collin needs to talk to Jalen Hurts because that

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Speaker 2: was another one. Of course, the fumble heard around the

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Speaker 2: world in the Super Bowl last year is going to

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Speaker 2: be felt a lot more than this one.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, you you tell me, based on what

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Speaker 3: we're just watching. To me, that's a that's on him, man, that's.

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Speaker 2: A lack of pocket awareness, the internal clock type of

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Speaker 2: a fumble that just set the Dolphins up with a

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Speaker 2: really short field.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think that goes back, goes back to

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Speaker 4: exactly what we were talking about before last year.

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Speaker 1: Year.

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Speaker 4: You know, that's almost a time where you see an

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Speaker 4: extremely confident Jalen Hurts either pull the ball down, take

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Speaker 4: off running, make something happen with his legs, or escape

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Speaker 4: the pocket and you know, give his receivers the opportunity

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Speaker 4: to add lip their routes and create an exposed to

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Speaker 4: play downfield. And it just looked like he wasn't sure,

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Speaker 4: you know, he wasn't confident in the pocket. He didn't

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Speaker 4: really know do I do? I pull it down and

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Speaker 4: take off running. He didn't escape the pocket and break

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Speaker 4: the pocket down to give his receivers a chance to

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Speaker 4: create the scramble drill and he does. It almost looks

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Speaker 4: more so of a lack of confidence back there, which

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Speaker 4: ultimately led to the fumble.

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Speaker 2: It sets the Dolphins up now first in goal at

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Speaker 2: the six after a third down conversion to Jalen Waddle.

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Speaker 2: We will keep you up to date live at the

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Speaker 2: tyrat dot Com studios. Mark Willard, Kyle Rudolph Okay in

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Speaker 2: the AFC we were talking about I do think and

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Speaker 2: we'll see what the Dolphins do ton if they win

666
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 2: at Philly on Sunday Night Football and go to six

667
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Speaker 2: and one, people are gonna be hot on the Dolphins

668
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: as well. So for sure, let's put that in our

669
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Speaker 2: hip pocket as something that could change this conversation. But

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Speaker 2: because of what happened to the Bills, I do think

671
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 2: that and the Chargers, the fact that the Chiefs win

672
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 2: that one by double digits, it's gonna be a week

673
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: where people go ugh yaw huhm, this is the Chiefs

674
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 2: conference yet again. And I think there are some party

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Speaker 2: crashers here for me, Kyle little out of sight, out

676
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Speaker 2: of mind because they tucked it in against whatever opponent

677
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Speaker 2: on Thursday night. But I'm not gonna flick this one

678
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Speaker 2: off my shoulder as if it's nothing. What the Jacksonville

679
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 2: Jaguars have now done with four wins in a row,

680
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 2: sweeping London, beating the Buffalo Bills, handling the Colts the

681
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 2: way they did when they got back, and then turn

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Speaker 2: right around with an injured quarterback on the road at

683
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Speaker 2: a weird place to play against a good defense in

684
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Speaker 2: the New Orleans Saints and putting up over thirty points

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Speaker 2: and winning that football game. I am very impressed by

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Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Jaguars, and I think they're in this conversation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you have to put them in the

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Speaker 4: conversation as that competitor, you know, dark horse, whatever you

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Speaker 4: want to call them in the AFC. You know, we

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Speaker 4: talked a little bit about him last week as they

691
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 4: swept London, came home beat the Coles. It's say, okay,

692
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Speaker 4: you got a short week, your quarterbacks banged up. You know,

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Speaker 4: let's kind of see what these Jaguars are all about.

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Speaker 4: And you know, we talked about just the way the

695
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Speaker 4: team is made up. Obviously Trevor Lawrence playing at a

696
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Speaker 4: high level at the quarterback position did so last year

697
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Speaker 4: to get him to the playoffs, but then getting Travis

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Speaker 4: Etn in the backfield, having a dynamic run game to

699
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Speaker 4: go along with all of the pass catchers they have

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Speaker 4: in the receiver room, in the tight end room, and

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Speaker 4: then a defense that plays hard and gives you a

702
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Speaker 4: chance to win football games. I think that's what gives Jacksonville,

703
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Speaker 4: you know, certainly a leg up and a lot of

704
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Speaker 4: these other contenders in the AFC, but none so more

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Speaker 4: than the fact that you know, they're not really going

706
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Speaker 4: to have the AFC East beating up on each other,

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Speaker 4: the AFC North beating up on each other like you know,

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Speaker 4: again they're in that AFC South where it's kind of

709
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Speaker 4: just a bunch of OK teams. You know, they should

710
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Speaker 4: pull away with this division. But I think the last

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Speaker 4: eighteen nineteen days, you know, they won four games in

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Speaker 4: nineteen days. That's more than I think half of the

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Speaker 4: AFC have all year. So to go through that stretch

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Speaker 4: over the last three weeks, two in London back here

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Speaker 4: against the Colts at home, and then going on the

716
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Speaker 4: road on a short week and getting all four wins

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Speaker 4: is huge for the rest of their season and kind

718
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Speaker 4: of the momentum it can create after a little bit

719
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Speaker 4: of a reset, almost like a little bye week this

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Speaker 4: weekend to come back next week.

721
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Speaker 2: Dolphins went backwards after getting to the six yard line,

722
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Speaker 2: but a field goal is good from forty yards.

723
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Speaker 3: The game is tied at three.

724
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Speaker 2: And what did you want to say about the Baltimore

725
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Speaker 2: Ravens after what they pulled off today?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think the Baltimore Ravens just have to be

727
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Speaker 4: another team that when we talk about, hey, who's up

728
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Speaker 4: there with the Kansas City Chiefs. Who can compete with

729
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Speaker 4: the Kansas City Chiefs come January? I think you have

730
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Speaker 4: to put the Baltimore Ravens in that category. We weren't

731
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Speaker 4: really sure what the NFC, or excuse me, what the

732
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Speaker 4: AFC North was going to look like early on. You know,

733
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Speaker 4: the first couple weeks they kind of all beat up

734
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Speaker 4: on each other. Cleveland beat Cincinnati, Pittsburgh sneaks a couple

735
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Speaker 4: wins in there, Cincinnati goes and gets a big win.

736
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Speaker 4: So it's like we didn't really know what the AFC

737
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Speaker 4: North was looking like. And yet I feel like here

738
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Speaker 4: we are, now seven weeks into the year, and you're

739
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Speaker 4: starting to see none more so than today with a

740
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Speaker 4: huge statement win against a team that you know, really

741
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Speaker 4: nobody hyped up more than we did.

742
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Speaker 1: You know, the Lions.

743
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Speaker 4: We felt like we're one of the better teams, not

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Speaker 4: just in the NFC, but in all of the NFL,

745
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Speaker 4: especially over the last calendar year. And you know, do

746
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Speaker 4: I think the Ravens are thirty five points or whatever

747
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Speaker 4: they won by today better than the Lions. No, But

748
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Speaker 4: I think when you watch that Ravens team play against

749
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Speaker 4: a really good Lions defense and what their defense did

750
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Speaker 4: to a really good Lions offense, it just shows you

751
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Speaker 4: the potential that they have and that style of play

752
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Speaker 4: will travel well into the football season, especially into the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I think it's really well said. Yeah, the Lions, for me,

754
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 2: is still a very good team. This one made sense today.

755
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 2: I don't know if it made sense losing by this much.

756
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Speaker 2: And then I'd also like to introduce you to this

757
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 2: year's Minnesota Vikings with a massive negative point differential yet

758
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 2: a foeign two record. That would be the Pittsburgh Steelers

759
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 2: blown out by the Niners and the Texans. But they've

760
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Speaker 2: won four to one score games and they look exactly

761
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Speaker 2: like the Vikings did last year. Speaking of the Vikings,

762
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Speaker 2: their opponent tomorrow night has a little bit of controversy

763
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Speaker 2: on their way into town.

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Speaker 3: That is coming up next.

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Speaker 6: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 3: I wonder if I even have to ask.

770
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Speaker 2: The Eagles are about to face a fourth and one

771
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Speaker 2: just across the Dolphins forty yard line.

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Speaker 3: What do you think they're gonna do? Kyle? What are

773
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Speaker 3: you gonna do? Yep? Here comes the brotherly show.

774
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Speaker 2: But a flag one up first, so we'll see how

775
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Speaker 2: they get that all figured out. But fourth and one,

776
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Speaker 2: like the Eagles have arrived at a spot where you

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Speaker 2: don't even need to discuss it on the sideline, though

778
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Speaker 2: I don't know that any football team ever does anymore.

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Speaker 2: It's like you lose your adult card or something if

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Speaker 2: you don't go forward on fourth and one. But here

781
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Speaker 2: we are, and while the officials are figuring it out,

782
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Speaker 2: the Eagles, if it's not against them, have converted yet

783
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Speaker 2: another fourth and one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks like they're converting this one as well

785
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Speaker 4: because the Dolphins player, I mean, I guess that's the

786
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Speaker 4: only way to try to stop it is line up

787
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Speaker 4: in the neutral zone and see if you can get

788
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Speaker 4: away with it. But I mean it's you know, it's

789
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 4: a good shot, I guess. But you know, we've talked

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Speaker 4: about this play almost at nauseum, especially with Philly. It's again,

791
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Speaker 4: it's the personnel. You know, Jason Kelsey, his ability to

792
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Speaker 4: use his leverage and strength with you know, all the

793
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Speaker 4: things that make him the best center in football also

794
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 4: apply really well to this play specifically. And then you

795
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Speaker 4: put a quarterback behind them who we've seen on Instagram

796
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 4: and social media squatting six hundred pounds and is extremely strong.

797
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Speaker 4: So I think they got five yards on that play

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Speaker 4: or whatever it was. He popped out the other side,

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Speaker 4: and it's never a doubt with Philly running it for sure.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna get to see it again because both

801
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: teams lined up in the neutral zone, so nobody gets anything.

802
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 2: You got to do it again, and here comes the

803
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 2: same play and this time they convert again.

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Speaker 3: Instead of five yards.

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00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 2: They only got three, and the Eagles drive will continue.

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Speaker 2: should be. We'll keep you up to date on that game.

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Speaker 2: Of course, it's a big one tomorrow night, though, I

812
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Speaker 2: got a question for you, and I'm already hearing the

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Speaker 2: debate start before it's even really started. I think it

814
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 2: hasn't started in any loud sort of a way because

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Speaker 2: we're not done with this Sunday's football. But when we

816
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 2: are and the Vikings and forty nine Ers take center

817
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 2: stage tomorrow, I do think this is going to be

818
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Speaker 2: a conversation that happens throughout the day, and the question

819
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Speaker 2: is should Christian McCaffrey play. Jay Glazer reported earlier today

820
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Speaker 2: that there is what he referred to as a very

821
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Speaker 2: slight tear in Christian's oblique. I am not a doctor.

822
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Speaker 2: I have no idea about anything when it comes to

823
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Speaker 2: this stuff, but I do know the way fans react

824
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Speaker 2: to the word tear. And the big three players for

825
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers who were question marks the other

826
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Speaker 2: two are not playing, so there's no Deebo Samuel, there's

827
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Speaker 2: no Trent Williams. The Niners are definitely coming in a

828
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Speaker 2: little shorthanded. Christian is expected to play. He said after

829
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Speaker 2: practice yesterday. I feel great, and there is this huge

830
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Speaker 2: drum beat from people going, why on earth would you

831
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Speaker 2: play him? You're already five and one. If you lose

832
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Speaker 2: the game, it's not like your season's over. You're actually

833
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Speaker 2: still in first place. You're doing great. Milons already lost today.

834
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Speaker 2: You may actually still be on the top of the

835
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Speaker 2: NFC heap even if you lose. Preserve him, let him

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Speaker 2: wait for a couple more weeks. The bye week is

837
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Speaker 2: two weeks away. I hear this from everyone. My response

838
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Speaker 2: is like, well, first of all, NFL teams don't play

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Speaker 2: that way. They don't assume, oh, it's not a very

840
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Speaker 2: good team might be able to beat him anyway, and

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Speaker 2: if we don't, whatever, Like that's just not the way

842
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Speaker 2: an NFL team thinks. Number one, But number two, what

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Speaker 2: I have an issue with is the idea that like

844
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Speaker 2: preserving Christian a few weeks guarantees you anything, you could

845
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Speaker 2: preserve him for two weeks and in the first play

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Speaker 2: that he.

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Speaker 3: Gets back, something else could snap. But like, that's just me.

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Speaker 2: Tell me what actually happens with a team when there's

849
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Speaker 2: this kind of a conversation.

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Speaker 4: Well, again, I think neither of us, I don't think.

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Speaker 4: I know neither of us are doctors, and I know

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Speaker 4: that neither of us are in that office looking at

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Speaker 4: the MRI making the decisions.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, you hear the.

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Speaker 4: Word tear, and certainly the word tear gets used all

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Speaker 4: the time, and you know, you essentially can use the

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Speaker 4: term tear and strain interchangeable and they literally mean the

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00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 4: exact same thing. So someone could have a strained oblique

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Speaker 4: or a torn obleak a mild to a mild tear,

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Speaker 4: as Jay Glazer reported. You know, it's the same way

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Speaker 4: with hamstrings these It's something that I learned throughout the

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Speaker 4: course of my career. You know, you're dealing with injuries.

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Speaker 4: You hear guys talking about injuries. The term tear and

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Speaker 4: torn just seems so significant that you know, I get

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Speaker 4: it for Niners fans that Christian McCaffrey has a slight

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Speaker 4: tear in his oblique, Well, why would we ever go

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Speaker 4: put him in the game if he has a slight terear. Now,

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Speaker 4: I guarantee you if the report would have said he

870
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Speaker 4: has a slightly strained oblique, the narrative would have been, oh, well,

871
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 4: if it's not gonna get worse, like, yeah, everybody plays

872
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 4: with mildly strained muscles all the time. Like there wouldn't

873
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 4: have been as much reserve from fans worrying like, oh

874
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 4: my god, it's torn, like this is gonna get worse.

875
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 4: We need Christian down the stretch. Why would you not

876
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 4: just let him get healthy? And so I think somewhere

877
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 4: in the middle of tear and strain lies the reality

878
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 4: of what the injury actually is. And I am on

879
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 4: the side that, look, if this is something that if

880
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 4: he were to take a week or two off, it's

881
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 4: gonna go away. And as a back who's extremely explosive

882
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 4: and changes direction incredibly well, your oblique is involved in

883
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 4: every single one of those cuts.

884
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 1: I get it.

885
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 4: If you certainly want that to heal in October and

886
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 4: not be a limiting factor to where he's not practicing

887
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 4: late in the year, he's got to have some sort

888
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 4: of a limited role late in the year because he

889
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 4: has this nagging oblique injury that we could have addressed

890
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 4: and kind of nipped in the button October. Instead, we

891
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 4: let the player talk us in to know I'm fine.

892
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 4: I want to go out there and play, because from

893
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 4: a player's perspective, it doesn't matter what the injury is.

894
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 4: And let until you tell us no, we're not going.

895
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 4: We're going to try to go. It's just the wiring

896
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 4: of our mentality and the way we do things.

897
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: So again, I think.

898
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 4: It goes to what's the actual reality of the injury,

899
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 4: And personally, I would err on the side of Look,

900
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 4: we know when this guy is healthy and available in

901
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 4: our offense. I don't know that there's anyone in the

902
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 4: NFL that can beat us, So why would we take

903
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 4: that at risk? On October twenty third, on Monday Night

904
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 4: football against the Vikings.

905
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: Well, although, what if there is no real quote unquote

906
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 2: risk outside of the inherent risk that's already there every

907
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 2: time that you put shoulder pads on and go play football.

908
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: Because there was a prior report back at the beginning

909
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 2: of the week that stated it is the type of

910
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 2: injury that you quote unquote can't make worse. Now I

911
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 2: don't even know exactly what that means. Like in football,

912
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: everything can be made worse. But in theory, if aggravating

913
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 2: it does not necessarily mean the idea of like turning

914
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 2: it into a long term injury by playing. You tell me,

915
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 2: I don't know what the line is.

916
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:48,439
Speaker 3: I know that that.

917
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 2: Usually in sports, we know everybody's tough, and like you said,

918
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 2: everybody wants to play, and you're playing hurt all the time.

919
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 2: I know that by the end of an nflc and

920
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 2: the injury rate is one hundred percent, I totally get that.

921
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 2: So isn't there something fair to say that is gosh, like,

922
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. Let's let's trust the smart people who

923
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:19,720
Speaker 2: are looking at the MRIs to not put people in danger.

924
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 2: If they could go out there and one hit is

925
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 2: going to turn this into a season ending injury, I

926
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 2: don't think this is that.

927
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 4: No, But certainly, again I'm not a doctor. I'm just

928
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 4: someone who played football for a long time and had

929
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 4: a lot of injuries, and I would say I'm smarter

930
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 4: than just the average person in terms of injuries. But

931
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 4: certainly a strained oblique or a mildly torn oblique is

932
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 4: something that can get worse, especially for our runner. You know,

933
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 4: if we were talking about, you know, maybe a position

934
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 4: that didn't require as much torque and turn and you know,

935
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 4: explosiveness out of their body as Christian does, and the

936
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 4: way Christian plays and the impact that he has on

937
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 4: the game. Yeah, I might say, Okay, you could probably

938
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 4: protect that guy, and you know, you can go out

939
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 4: there at seventy five eighty percent and be cognizant of

940
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 4: the injury and not make it worse that player at

941
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 4: that position.

942
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: Is not the case.

943
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 4: But you know, like I said, it could be something

944
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 4: that's just a mild strain, and you know it's I

945
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 4: just I have a hard time believing that because he

946
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 4: did not come back in the game last year, last week.

947
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 4: And if it was something that was so mild that

948
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 4: never bothers you during the game, it's usually something that

949
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 4: you wake up on Monday morning and you're like, oh, man,

950
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 4: like where did that come from? Because during the game,

951
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 4: when you're adrenaline's flowing and you're in the heat of battle,

952
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 4: that mild strain or mild tear isn't something that would

953
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 4: usually limit you from coming back in the game. Ultimately,

954
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 4: it's something that you go in the next day and

955
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 4: you go, hey, this this does not feel right.

956
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: What's going on? You get the MRI and then you

957
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: see it.

958
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 3: I wonder to what level.

959
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 2: Then there is the possibility that this is a big.

960
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 3: Huge smoke screen.

961
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 2: They've let you know the debos out, They've essentially let

962
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: you know that Trent Williams is out, but Christian McCaffrey

963
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 2: is a massive game plan changer. So maybe it's oh, yeah,

964
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 2: we're gonna play him, We're gonna play him, and then

965
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 2: you get to about three o'clock tomorrow afternoon and it's like, no, no,

966
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey's not playing.

967
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 3: This could be that.

968
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it could be all the way up

969
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 4: to ninety minutes before kickoff when the inactives are announced,

970
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 4: that you see that, oh well, Christian is gonna go

971
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 4: out there and he's gonna play, and it's just a

972
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 4: mild tear. Who knows, but just for me, I think

973
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 4: it's something that we've talked about every time we've talked

974
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 4: about the forty nine Ers Week one through four. The

975
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 4: forty nine Ers are one of, if not the best

976
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 4: team in football with a healthy, dynamic Christian McCaffrey, and

977
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 4: certainly you've mentioned it a couple of times, mark that

978
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 4: the fact a guy can get hurt on any play

979
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 4: and you know to say, oh, we want to get

980
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 4: him healthy, well the first play back. Once he gets healthy,

981
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 4: he could go down with an injury. That's the nature

982
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 4: of our game, you understand it. But there also is

983
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 4: the point of, look, this is something that we can

984
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 4: let heal or at least improve before we put you

985
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 4: back out there and ultimately put you at more risk

986
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 4: because Okay, maybe you can't make that oblique much worse,

987
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 4: but maybe you're going to run the ball differently or

988
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 4: put yourself at ricks for getting injured at some other

989
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 4: part of your body because you're favoring that oblique. That

990
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 4: doesn't allow you to be the player that you were

991
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 4: prior to the initial injury.

992
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997
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Speaker 2: bit later. We'll keep you up to date on Eagles

998
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 2: and Dolphins. Philly has gone in with a Dallas Goddard

999
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,919
Speaker 2: tight ends day touchdown and they lead this one ten

1000
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 2: to three right now, another team at the top of

1001
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 2: the heap in the NFC. We talked about what this

1002
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 2: means on the good side for Baltimore, what does it

1003
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 2: mean on the bad side for Detroit, and also coming

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1005
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1006
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1007
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,520
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1008
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,240
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1009
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1010
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1011
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 2: still got a pretty big to figure out tonight, pretty

1012
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,000
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Speaker 3: I don't know how to describe certain losses.

1021
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if you want to call them a

1022
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 2: schedule loss a situational loss. I look at what the

1023
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions experienced today and I think to myself, Yeah,

1024
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 2: that one just made sense. Like certain losses Buffalo Bills

1025
00:54:55,600 --> 00:55:00,760
Speaker 2: today would say to me there's a concern their losses,

1026
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 2: even if it's in blowout fashion, I'm like, blow it off,

1027
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 2: move on to the next.

1028
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:07,959
Speaker 3: Nothing to see here.

1029
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 2: And I think that that's what this is with the

1030
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens and the Detroit Lions, this situation, this time

1031
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 2: of year, this particular opponent. I'm sure there's some things

1032
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 2: that they put on film that other teams now gonna

1033
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 2: are gonna come after them with. But I'm also looking

1034
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 2: at their division and it just does not feel like

1035
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 2: there's even a threat to them in that division. And

1036
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 2: so to me, the Detroit Lions are hosting a playoff

1037
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 2: game this year, and I feel very confident in saying

1038
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 2: that already, and I don't think that today's loss puts

1039
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 2: them out of the top heap of the NFC.

1040
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree with you something you mentioned before

1041
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 4: that it's more about the Baltimore Ravens and giving them

1042
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 4: credit for the win as opposed to if you're the

1043
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 4: Detroit Lions or a Detroit Lion fan, or someone like

1044
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 4: you and I who've said that, hey, this Detroit Lions

1045
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 4: team is for real to cause concern, there are times,

1046
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 4: you know, we know how this Detroit Lions team is

1047
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 4: built and what they have to do to win games.

1048
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 4: When you're down fourteen nothing in the first quarter, twenty

1049
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 4: eight nothing in the first half, Jared Goff has to

1050
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 4: throw at fifty three times. That's not what makes this

1051
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 4: Detroit Lions team successful. You know, certainly David Montgomery being

1052
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 4: banged up, him being out. This is a team that

1053
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 4: loves to run the football, get downhill. They embody the

1054
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:48,439
Speaker 4: mentality of their head coach and Dan Campbell. When you're

1055
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 4: down fourteen nothing in the first quarter, it's all out

1056
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 4: the window. Like everything that you thought you wanted to

1057
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 4: do going into Baltimore, knowing that, hey, we're playing against

1058
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 4: a good physical defense. We need to be physical as well.

1059
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 4: We got to establish the run game.

1060
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: You can't. You don't have time for that anymore. Now.

1061
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 4: It's drop back pass after drop back pass, and ultimately

1062
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 4: that can make things get worse and worse, and it

1063
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 4: can also make things look worse than they are on

1064
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 4: the scoreboard, and I think that's what you saw today

1065
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 4: in a thirty eight to six win for the Ravens.

1066
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 4: But you know, I do we gave the Ravens their

1067
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 4: flowers already on the show talking about AFC teams. I

1068
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 4: think they deserve the credit and respect to be talked

1069
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 4: about as one of the real contenders in the AFC.

1070
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 4: And I would agree that I still see this Detroit

1071
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 4: Lions team hosting a home playoff game at Ford Field

1072
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 4: in January.

1073
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I look at the landscape in the NFC.

1074
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 2: I do think that the Eagles and the forty nine

1075
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 2: ers are still the two best teams.

1076
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 3: But it's funny if you looked at each one of them.

1077
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 2: In and said, what is your biggest challenger with regard

1078
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 2: to going after home field advantage? I actually think it

1079
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 2: might be the Lions. I mean, we've talked about the

1080
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 2: schedule that the Eagles have coming up, and this is

1081
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 2: the start of it tonight, and they're handling it very well.

1082
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 2: They just went up seventeen to three. Jalen Hurts hit

1083
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 2: AJ Brown on a nice pass, got down inside the

1084
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 2: one yard line and it was all brotherly shoved from there.

1085
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 3: So this is the start of it.

1086
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 2: But just again because we've talked about it a lot,

1087
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 2: to go through what the Eagles have over the next

1088
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 2: seven or eight weeks of their season. This game tonight

1089
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 2: against Miami, let's say they come out victorious and they're

1090
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 2: six and one, But then it's go to Washington, then

1091
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 2: host Dallas, and then following the buy at Arrowhead home

1092
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 2: to Buffalo, home to the forty nine ers at Dallas

1093
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 2: at Seattle. Such a gauntlet, and so I just figured

1094
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 2: there are some losses in there for the Eagle. And

1095
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 2: we'll see now what happens with the forty nine ers,

1096
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 2: who are clearly hampered by some major injuries and an

1097
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 2: interesting stretch of their schedule as well. They've got the

1098
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 2: Bengals coming off of a bye next week at home.

1099
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 3: We'll see what they do tomorrow night.

1100
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 2: But the Lions are gonna take this one, and I

1101
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 2: have zero doubt they are going to They're gonna bounce

1102
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 2: right back and be a factor. They feel to me,

1103
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 2: Kyle like a thirteen and four football team. You've talked

1104
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 2: a lot about, even going back to last year second

1105
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,439
Speaker 2: half of last year when they only lost twice, they've

1106
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 2: only lost twice, you know, this year, and they've got

1107
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 2: the Raiders and then and then a bye at a

1108
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 2: bunch of division games with the Bears and the Packers

1109
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 2: and the Broncos and all these things coming up. And

1110
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 2: I just don't see a lot of losses on the

1111
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 2: Lions schedule the rest of the way.

1112
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 3: No.

1113
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 4: I you mentioned some of the upcoming games that they

1114
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 4: have have and you know on paper, which we all know.

1115
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 4: This league is not played on paper. And each week

1116
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 4: is his own thing, and this is what we do

1117
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 4: in the media, and now it's it's fun for me

1118
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 4: as a former player to get to do this because

1119
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 4: I was I never did this as a player. You like,

1120
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 4: all right, we got beat by Baltimore in Baltimore this week.

1121
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 4: Now we you know, we got the Raiders at home,

1122
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 4: and that's all you focused on. That's all you cared about.

1123
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 4: We're playing the Raiders on Monday night football at home.

1124
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: That's the sole focus.

1125
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 4: But for us from the outside looking in, you look

1126
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 4: at their next eight games, Raiders, Chargers, Bears, Packers, Saints, Bears, Broncos, Vikings.

1127
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 4: Who scares you there, I mean, no one. So then

1128
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 4: they have Dallas Minnesota the last two games.

1129
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: Of the year.

1130
01:00:55,720 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 4: So I think if I'm if my maths are me correctly,

1131
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 4: they have one team with a winning record the rest

1132
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 4: of the way, and that's the Dallas Cowboys, Raiders. Yeah, Raiders, Chargers, Bears, Packers, Saints, Bears, Broncos, Vikings.

1133
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 4: So you know, certainly Detroit has on paper one of

1134
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 4: the easiest schedules. And you talked about San frans star

1135
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 4: players being banged up, and we've talked about this next

1136
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 4: eight game stretch for Philly and what that means for them,

1137
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 4: so you know, it'll I'm curious to see how this

1138
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 4: Lions team bounces back. This certainly is a Lions team

1139
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 4: that we feel like has established an identity over the

1140
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 4: last couple of years. But this is not something that

1141
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 4: we've seen from them. They've been competitive in every game

1142
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 4: that they've played, even the games they've lost the last

1143
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 4: couple of years. So curious to see how they bounce back.

1144
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 4: I have an inclination on how they'll bounce back this

1145
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 4: week with the Monday night game at home against the Raiders,

1146
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 4: but looking forward to seeing that next week.

1147
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 2: All Right, a little bit more about the team that

1148
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 2: has figured out how to look like they've got it

1149
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 2: all going in one direction, and they're trying their butts off,

1150
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 2: yet they are perfectly aligning in the Caleb Williams Derby

1151
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 2: if you want to call it that, because he's had

1152
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 2: a rough few weeks. But I'll tell you about that

1153
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 2: here coming up. Plus an injury to Jalen Waddle that

1154
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 2: has taken him at least momentarily out of Sunday Night Football.

1155
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 3: More on all of that as we find out what's.

1156
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 2: Trending, and bringing in Martin Weiss here on Fox Sports Radio.

1157
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 3: Hey, Martin, what do we got, hey, Mark?

1158
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 7: That's right, Jayleen Waddle questionable to return to this game.

1159
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 7: Fletcher Cox right now getting looked at. He walked to

1160
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 7: the sidelines. The Eagles lead the Dolphin seventeen to three.

1161
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 7: Dallas Goddard with the receiving touchdown, Jalen Hurts with a

1162
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 7: brotherly shove rushing touchdown for the touchdowns in that matchup

1163
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 7: against seventeen to three, approaching the two minute warning in

1164
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 7: the second quarter. In baseball, ALCS Game six is underway.

1165
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 7: It's in the bottom of the fifth inning, three to

1166
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 7: one lead for the Texas Rangers. Astros of course, up

1167
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 7: three to two in the series. Franbrval des Verus Nathan

1168
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 7: Valdi and in the NFL earlier today, Jordan Loft to

1169
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 7: a late interception at crush. The Packers come back attempt

1170
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 7: against the Denver Broncos. Who I think that's the team

1171
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 7: you're talking about. Mark trying real hard and still lining

1172
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 7: up for Kayleb Williams. I'll see that just a second.

1173
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 7: But they they beat the Packers nineteen to seventeen. The

1174
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 7: Chiefs beat the Chargers thirty one to seventeen. Travis Kelcey

1175
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 7: twelve catches, one hundred ninety seven yards and a touchdown there.

1176
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 7: Rookies Jackson Smith and Jigba and Jake Bobbo both had

1177
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 7: their first career touchdowns today as the Seahawks beat the

1178
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 7: Cardinals twenty to ten. Brad Mahera missed two field goals

1179
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 7: and an extra point for the Rams. This is his

1180
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 7: third game this season missing multiple field goals. The Steelers

1181
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:46,919
Speaker 7: victorious in so far, twenty four to seventeen. Bears beat

1182
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 7: the Raiders thirty to twelve. Lamar Jackson twenty one for

1183
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 7: twenty seven three fifty seven through the year, thirty six rushing,

1184
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 7: three passing touchdowns, one rushing touchdown, Ravens beat the Lions

1185
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 7: thirty eight to six. Backup cornerback turned starter Gardner Minshew

1186
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 7: had an interception in three loss fumbles as the Browns

1187
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 7: beat the Colts thirty nine to thirty eight. Bill Belichick

1188
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 7: his third most winning coach in NFL history. He got

1189
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 7: his three hundredth career win today as the Patriots upset

1190
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 7: the Bills twenty nine to twenty five. And I told

1191
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 7: you what Magic Johnson had to say about the Commander's

1192
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 7: loss again, just it all reminds you. Disappointing fourteen to

1193
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 7: seven loss from my Commanders to the New York Giants.

1194
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 7: It's hard to win in the NFL when you only

1195
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 7: score seven points. Well, same team, But Jonathan Allen had

1196
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 7: a little bit more to say.

1197
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 3: What's the evaluation like after a loss like that?

1198
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: Hey, plain and simple, gotta be better.

1199
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 3: Anything they did that surprised you guys early on?

1200
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 1: No, I want to say so.

1201
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 4: I think it's just a lack of focus on our

1202
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 4: part of lack oftention to detail, not starting fast and

1203
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 4: creating holes that are too big for us to overcome

1204
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 4: in the second half.

1205
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 3: Does it get frustrating?

1206
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 1: It tired? What can you do now?

1207
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 3: Going forward to get it turned around.

1208
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 1: Get our minds right, get ready to play for Philadelphia.

1209
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 7: So I think the answer to does this good frustrating?

1210
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 7: Is yes, it does get frustrating. And to wrap out

1211
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 7: the NFL action today, the Falcons walked off the Buccaneers

1212
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 7: Young WACU with the game when you field goal, Falcons

1213
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 7: in first place in the NFC South sixteen to thirteen

1214
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:17,439
Speaker 7: the final there.

1215
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 3: All right, Mark and Kyle back to you.

1216
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 2: Good stuff. Mark, that was a very long beep. There

1217
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 2: was a very very long beep coming from Jonathan Allen. Hey, Kyle,

1218
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 2: I know how that's going to be translated. I don't

1219
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 2: know if he means it this way, but when you

1220
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 2: lose a game fourteen to seven and a defensive player

1221
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 2: goes offenses, I'm tired of this bleep.

1222
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 3: I've been here for years. I'm tired of this bleep.

1223
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 2: Look, this team's been looking for solid offense and quarterback

1224
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 2: play ever since they moved on from Kirk Cousins. That's

1225
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 2: just the reality of the situation in Washington. It is

1226
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 2: going to be translated as if he is taught talking

1227
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 2: about the offense.

1228
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 3: What do you think was going on there? Yeah?

1229
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 4: I mean he's certainly not talking about the defense who

1230
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 4: only gave up fourteen points and still gave their team

1231
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 4: a chance to win. But you know, it's one of

1232
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 4: those things like you you love to see the passion

1233
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 4: and you know, kind of the frustration, the worst thing

1234
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,959
Speaker 4: that could that you would want out of a player

1235
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 4: after a game as oh, well, you know it is

1236
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 4: what it is, like, we'll get it fixed, we'll move on.

1237
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 4: So you know, you kind of take it with a

1238
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 4: grain of salt. You understand where he's coming from. Certainly,

1239
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 4: it's no secret in that building that the offense needs

1240
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 4: to play a lot better and score a lot more points.

1241
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 4: But it is one of those things where you know,

1242
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 4: you look at that and say, okay, well we only

1243
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 4: gave up fourteen points, we turned the ball over, we

1244
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 4: gave our team chance. You don't necessarily want to start

1245
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 4: creating that division in a locker room, you know, with

1246
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 4: a team that's three and four.

1247
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 2: We're live int tyrack dot Com Studios along with Kyle Rudolph.

1248
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 2: I'm Mark Willard Fox Sports Radio on Sunday Night, looking

1249
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 2: at all of the teams, all of the games, and

1250
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:21,959
Speaker 2: Martin I get where he's coming from.

1251
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 3: He thinks I'm talking about the Broncos.

1252
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 2: I'm actually not and the reason is I don't think

1253
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 2: that the Denver Broncos. I don't think they can realistically

1254
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 2: move on and grab a new quarterback next year for

1255
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 2: two reasons. The obvious one is Russell Wilson's contract. And

1256
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 2: you'll say, oh, hey, you can always get out of

1257
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 2: a contract to a degree depending on what you want

1258
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 2: to pay.

1259
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 3: That that's true. But I also think you got a

1260
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 3: hard time.

1261
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 2: You just poured a bunch of money into Sean Payton

1262
01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 2: after dumping a head coach after only one year, and

1263
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 2: I have to think that Peyton. Peyton's pitch had to be, oh,

1264
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 2: I can do this, I can fix Russell Wilson. I

1265
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 2: can get this offense going in the right direction. I

1266
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 2: think it's a real hard sell to change everything up

1267
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 2: after only one year of this particular staff. It just

1268
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,719
Speaker 2: would have the look of doing it every single year.

1269
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 2: So that's my thought on Denver. I'm actually pointing to

1270
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and yeah, they absolutely have a financial

1271
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:40,719
Speaker 2: issue at the quarterback position as well, but they've opened

1272
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 2: a window for Kyler Murray twenty one days to see

1273
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,680
Speaker 2: if they can get him back on the field, and

1274
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 2: I wonder, Kyle. My spin on this is that they

1275
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 2: open the window now because they're probably not going to

1276
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 2: put him back on the field.

1277
01:08:58,160 --> 01:08:59,759
Speaker 3: They open this rather early.

1278
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 2: And Josh Dobbs is kind of a nice story, like

1279
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 2: he does some OK things on a football field, And

1280
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 2: it looks like the Cardinals can go out there and

1281
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 2: function and do just enough to lose almost all of the.

1282
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 3: Games in a non embarrassing sort of a way.

1283
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 2: You've got a first year coach there who's coming in

1284
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 2: who would love to maybe get his own people on

1285
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 2: the offensive side of the ball. They're one and six.

1286
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 2: The only record that's worse is the Panthers. We know

1287
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 2: they're not drafted a new QB right now. My money's

1288
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 2: on Caleb Williams in a Cardinals jersey next year.

1289
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think I don't know if you saw

1290
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 4: it today or not, but Adam Schefter tweeted about and

1291
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 4: posted on his social media about that window being open

1292
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 4: and kind of he dove into it a little more

1293
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 4: with the logistics of the Kyler Murray situation and do

1294
01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 4: they really want Kyler Murray to come back against the Browns, Ravens, Niners, Steelers, Eagles,

1295
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 4: you know, five out of his last six games of

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Speaker 4: the year. Also diving into the fact of if he

1297
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 4: can't pass his physical in March, what that means for

1298
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Speaker 4: his contract and the thirty million dollars that would become

1299
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 4: fully guaranteed on his contract. So again, I think it

1300
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:27,480
Speaker 4: shines a little light into the business side of football,

1301
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 4: the chest not checkers, if you would, and what this

1302
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:35,720
Speaker 4: means for the Arizona Cardinals, the future of the Arizona

1303
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 4: Cardinals and an organization that just went through a complete

1304
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 4: overhaul GM head coach, coordinators, they're all new people in

1305
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 4: that building. Certainly, you would assume in a draft where

1306
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 4: we have one of the most highly touted prospects in

1307
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 4: a long time, they would want a shot at getting

1308
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 4: that guy and getting to choose who they want to

1309
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 4: be their franchise quarterback, not somebody that they inherited with

1310
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 4: a huge contract.

1311
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Speaker 2: I will say, though, just real quick, I mean, I

1312
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 2: don't think that these things are completely a done deal.

1313
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 2: When you have a prospect like Caleb Williams, it's almost

1314
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 2: impossible to imagine him not being the number one overall pick.

1315
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 2: But if you're gonna imagine it, now's the time to

1316
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 2: imagine it, because the last two weeks have.

1317
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 3: Been a blemish. There's no two ways about it.

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01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 2: To see what he's done in the last couple of

1319
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 2: weeks for SC football, tons of picks a week ago,

1320
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 2: and then yesterday you're going up against the best defense

1321
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 2: in the conference. You lose that one as well, and

1322
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 2: it's starting to look like a guy who has all

1323
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 2: the stats he does because he builds him up against

1324
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:51,799
Speaker 2: some of the bad defenses, because it's pretty pedestrian against

1325
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 2: the good defenses.

1326
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Speaker 3: Because there aren't that many of them in college football.

1327
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 4: No, there's really not. And you know, certainly you would

1328
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 4: like to see Caleb Williams perform better in those bigger

1329
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 4: games against the better defenses. But also I think you

1330
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 4: kind of look at the overall body of work and personally,

1331
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 4: I think it would be really hard to even two

1332
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 4: three high ver many times you want to go and

1333
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 4: really analyze the tape and be like, oh, well, I

1334
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 4: wish you would have played better in this moment or

1335
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:23,759
Speaker 4: that moment. When you look at a former Heisman Trophy

1336
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 4: winner and what he did even as a true freshman

1337
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 4: at Oklahoma and then the multiple years starting at USC,

1338
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 4: I think he still is that clear cut number one

1339
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 4: overall pick. I'll dive a little further into it, even

1340
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 4: than just his play on the field. One of the

1341
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 4: things that worries me about a guy in the locker

1342
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 4: room is, you know, just his mentality coming into the

1343
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 4: league and some of the things that we're starting to

1344
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:49,600
Speaker 4: hear off the field. I only want to play for

1345
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 4: these teams. I'll go back to school. I can make

1346
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 4: more money. I have that power. If I am drafted

1347
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 4: by a team number one overall, I would like ownership

1348
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 4: in the team. It's like, come on, you know, just

1349
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 4: like the Bengals. The Bengals, who are one of the

1350
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:08,639
Speaker 4: most cash poor teams in NFL history, didn't give their

1351
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 4: proven NFL quarterback any ownership. And the Jets didn't give

1352
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,879
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers, who's one of the all time greats. Patrick

1353
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 4: Mahomes didn't get it from Kansas City. It's like, we

1354
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 4: have all these guys who are proven first ballot Hall

1355
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 4: of Fame quarterbacks that haven't gotten that request, haven't made

1356
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 4: that request. And you're a guy who's coming into the

1357
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 4: NFL has never played it down of football in the NFL,

1358
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 4: and now your play in college football is starting to

1359
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 4: reflect this mentality of worrying more about gaining equity in

1360
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 4: an NFL team or picking the team that you want

1361
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 4: to go to, instead of just worrying about winning games

1362
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 4: for your team right now in college.

1363
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 2: YEP reminds me of another situation that I was privy

1364
01:13:55,640 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 2: to same position, very very early draft pick, and he's

1365
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 2: no longer in the league. I'll share with you who

1366
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 2: we're talking about. Coming up next, touchdown for Tyreek Hill.

1367
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 2: The Dolphins are sticking in this one good game, living

1368
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:14,759
Speaker 2: up to the hype so far. Along with Kyle Rudolph,

1369
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 2: Mark Willard, this is Fox Sports Radio Live, Tyrag dot

1370
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:26,759
Speaker 2: Com Studios Halftime Ian Philly Eagle, seventeen Dolphins, ten good stuff,

1371
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 2: big plays, Jalen Hurts and two A tongue of I

1372
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 2: loa going back and forth. Second half should be a

1373
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:37,759
Speaker 2: whole lot of fun. Mark Willard, Kyle Rudolph, Fox Sports

1374
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 2: Sunday Nightcap, looking through every single thing that has taken

1375
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:43,839
Speaker 2: place on an NFL field today.

1376
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 3: Plus, you know, I think your point that you just

1377
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:47,919
Speaker 3: made about.

1378
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams is a really really good one. We live

1379
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 2: in an age of player empowerment, and Kyle, that is

1380
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 2: a good thing, There's no two ways about it.

1381
01:14:58,560 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 3: That's a good thing.

1382
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 2: I support players getting everything they can, the idea of

1383
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 2: hometown discounts and you know, all the stuff that we

1384
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 2: asked players to do a bunch of junk, to be

1385
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:17,680
Speaker 2: honest with you, But there is one exception, and that

1386
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 2: is cart before Horse. So, like what you just pointed out,

1387
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 2: to talk this way, and I know he's not doing

1388
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:29,600
Speaker 2: all of it publicly, but there is now starting to

1389
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:34,640
Speaker 2: be a drum beat of Caleb Williams and who he

1390
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 2: feels he is as he gets ready to be the

1391
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 2: number one pick in the draft without ever having played

1392
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 2: a down in the NFL. I think you have to

1393
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:47,799
Speaker 2: be very very careful. I'm not going to put names

1394
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:49,720
Speaker 2: out there, but I will tell you this.

1395
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 3: There was an agent who came.

1396
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 2: On my show at a Super Bowl, ah, you know,

1397
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 2: ten fifteen years ago something like that, I don't remember

1398
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 2: exactly when, and off air he kind of shared with

1399
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 2: me he said, I got a client who is cart

1400
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 2: before Horse. I got a client who has not even

1401
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:15,480
Speaker 2: been drafted yet, and he can't stop talking about endorsements.

1402
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 2: And he also seems pretty interested in getting into parties

1403
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 2: and nightlife and all of that, and so he said,

1404
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:29,640
Speaker 2: I'm trying to steer him the best I can in

1405
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 2: the direction of just go play really good football, and

1406
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 2: then that other stuff is all going to take care

1407
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 2: of itself. That player had an okay NFL career shorter

1408
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 2: than he probably wanted it to be, not in the

1409
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 2: league anymore, and.

1410
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 3: I do believe that that that was a part of it.

1411
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:02,759
Speaker 2: You know, the focus was not on, hey, go play

1412
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 2: amazing football and then the rest of this stuff is

1413
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 2: all going to take care of itself. The timing of

1414
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams having this news come out about ownership or

1415
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:15,680
Speaker 2: I don't want to go there or I don't want

1416
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,639
Speaker 2: to go over here when he has two bad games

1417
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 2: in a row couldn't be worse. Because I know even

1418
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 2: the fraternal nature of the NFL, even the players, will

1419
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 2: not like that whatever locker room he's joining coming up

1420
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 2: next year.

1421
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 4: And I think that's the biggest thing, And that's kind

1422
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:38,599
Speaker 4: of the main reason I wanted to make this point

1423
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:41,679
Speaker 4: is like, look, when you come into the league, whether

1424
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 4: you're the first pick or the last pick or an

1425
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:50,480
Speaker 4: undrafted free agent, your job especially as especially as the quarterback,

1426
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:55,599
Speaker 4: your job is to gain the respect of that locker room,

1427
01:17:56,160 --> 01:18:00,600
Speaker 4: and the easiest way to piss every one off in

1428
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:04,719
Speaker 4: that locker room and lose the respect of the veteran

1429
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 4: players in that locker room is to make those crazy

1430
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:12,679
Speaker 4: requests and to act the way that you know, again,

1431
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 4: it's not him, it's everything has been reported by representatives,

1432
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:20,719
Speaker 4: and you know, honestly, there are times where I feel

1433
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 4: bad for these twenty one year old kids.

1434
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 1: We have no idea. He could just be, you.

1435
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 4: Know, playing football and trying to go win games at

1436
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 4: USC and he has people representing him who are making

1437
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 4: these outlandish requests. We don't know that. I highly doubt

1438
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 4: that's the case, but you know, it is this thing

1439
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:42,599
Speaker 4: where other people are now speaking for you, and that

1440
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 4: becomes your reputation. And when you step foot in that

1441
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 4: locker room, guys are gonna want to be like, yo,

1442
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 4: we're gonna got to check that at the door. You know,

1443
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 4: you're here to try to turn this around. If you

1444
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 4: were the number one overall pick, you're here for a reason.

1445
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 4: It's your job now you're the face of this franchise

1446
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 4: to turn this around. And you know you're gonna need

1447
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 4: that entire locker room to rally behind you and you know,

1448
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:12,600
Speaker 4: that's where I think you've seen these guys who have

1449
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 4: been first overall picks your Trevor, Lawrence's, your Tuas that

1450
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 4: went five, You're Justin Herbert's guys that have really changed

1451
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 4: the trajectory of the franchise.

1452
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow.

1453
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 4: They just come in, they go to work, and then

1454
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 4: guys rally behind them, and that's where you see these

1455
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 4: franchises turn.

1456
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 2: I'm glad that you brought Justin Herbert's name up. We

1457
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 2: need to have a conversation about him and about his coach,

1458
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 2: because that's.

1459
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 3: A rule on this show.

1460
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 2: As you know, he has been much discussed on the

1461
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 2: show and today will be absolutely no different. But then

1462
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:49,759
Speaker 2: also we got to get to this coming up next.

1463
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:53,640
Speaker 2: It was somewhat of a surprise signing. I guess it

1464
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 2: wasn't when it happened, but nobody knew that it did,

1465
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 2: and finally today it came out and it changes what

1466
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 2: many people have been saying.

1467
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 3: So we got to get to that.

1468
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 2: Coming up next, we will This is Fox Sports Sunday.

1469
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 6: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

1470
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Speaker 6: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports radio

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Speaker 2: Well, the game is back on here in the second half,

1474
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 2: but Jalen Waddle is not.

1475
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 3: He continues to sit out.

1476
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 2: We'll track that one for you as the Dolphins go

1477
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:30,640
Speaker 2: on their opening drive in the second half, trailing the

1478
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:35,480
Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles seventeen to ten in a prime time matchup.

1479
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:38,760
Speaker 2: Breaking it down everything that we've seen this week with

1480
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Speaker 2: tire buying should be. I love something you said last hour, Kyle.

1485
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Speaker 2: You said that talking this stuff out and sometimes building

1486
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 2: narratives that aren't even there is something that happens in

1487
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 2: media all the time. And you're enjoying now being on

1488
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:14,800
Speaker 2: this side and being able to be involved in some

1489
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 2: of this conversation because you couldn't before. Now this didn't

1490
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:23,799
Speaker 2: happen on this show, and I'm happy about that because

1491
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 2: there's a narrative that got built in recent weeks that

1492
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 2: could not have been more off base. I've said it

1493
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 2: before on shows. I don't like using the microphones that

1494
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 2: we have to talk about the job status of others,

1495
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 2: or a better way to say it, to call for others' jobs.

1496
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 3: I think it's just bad form. It's not my decision.

1497
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 2: Yes, there are times when it's obvious when something is

1498
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 2: really detracting against a team, but without being on the inside,

1499
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 2: I figure that's usually something that while we can talk about,

1500
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 2: I'm not going to come after it hard. This was

1501
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:10,919
Speaker 2: one of those situations, and it turned out that whoever

1502
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 2: spoke on this had egg all over their face. I

1503
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 2: cannot tell you how many times I've heard in the

1504
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 2: last three weeks that Bill Belichick is on the hot seat.

1505
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 3: That's right, the goat is on the hot seat. Little

1506
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 3: did everyone know.

1507
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 2: He had already signed a contract extension that happened before

1508
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:34,680
Speaker 2: the year even started. So this guy's fresh off of

1509
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 2: an extension. Nobody knows about it, and everyone's going I

1510
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:41,680
Speaker 2: bet the Patriots and Robert Kraft are getting pretty impatient.

1511
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 3: Well, no they're not.

1512
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 2: It's a good day to talk about it because he

1513
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 2: went out there and he upset the Buffalo Bills.

1514
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:50,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we all find out that he signed a

1515
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 4: contract extension and he ultimately will not be going anywhere

1516
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 4: as the New England Patriots head coach. But you know,

1517
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:01,600
Speaker 4: I do think you know they're times and watch his

1518
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 4: press conference after the game. He gets asked about his

1519
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 4: three hundredth win, and you know, he could care less

1520
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 4: the fact that he just became the third coach ever

1521
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:13,680
Speaker 4: to win three hundred games. You can see it in

1522
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 4: his reaction as an emotion in his face. He's just

1523
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 4: trying to figure this out. You know, he's really grinding

1524
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 4: more than ever at a place where all they ever

1525
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 4: have known and all they've ever done is go to work,

1526
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 4: you know, kind of do things the hard way, get through,

1527
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 4: create chaos, and they don't beat themselves on Sunday. So

1528
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 4: you know, for him to be dealing with what he's

1529
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 4: dealing with now and this year, you know, of course

1530
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:43,680
Speaker 4: everybody in the outside, you know, we've joked about it,

1531
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 4: is he playing chess when we think we're watching checkers?

1532
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 4: You know, to get in this quarterback market where we

1533
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 4: feel like New England's a team that doesn't really know

1534
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 4: what the future of the quarterback position holds at that organization,

1535
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 4: and you ultimately have a good quarterback draft this year

1536
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 4: with a couple really good ones that could potentially change

1537
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:07,640
Speaker 4: the trajectory of your franchise. We don't know, but I

1538
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 4: think today when you watch his press conference after a

1539
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 4: win against a team that I've beaten him four times

1540
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 4: in a row, including a playoff game, and he literally

1541
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 4: could care less. He just talked about we're trying to

1542
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 4: figure this out, like I'm working on this team this

1543
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 4: year and we're trying to figure out how we can

1544
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 4: win games.

1545
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:32,839
Speaker 3: Yeah. I tell you what, there is one sort of quirk.

1546
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 2: And maybe you put it aside because it's Bill Belichick

1547
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:39,760
Speaker 2: and all of the history he has, but I do

1548
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 2: think it's a good thing for him that he is

1549
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 2: a quote unquote defensive head coach. Maybe it's been so

1550
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 2: many years that that doesn't matter anymore, but if you

1551
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 2: do look at the trail of what's happening offensively, which

1552
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 2: is offensive coordinators last year who aren't offensive coordinators. Even

1553
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 2: look at what his tree in Josh McDaniels now doing

1554
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas, where he is already very much feeling

1555
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:08,440
Speaker 2: the heat.

1556
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 3: With what's going on.

1557
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 2: That offense cannot get to twenty points, literally cannot get

1558
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 2: over twenty points.

1559
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 3: They have not done it.

1560
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 2: All year long, except for when the defense helps them

1561
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:18,919
Speaker 2: get there by scoring.

1562
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:20,639
Speaker 3: So you look at.

1563
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 2: All of that and even the evaluation that led them

1564
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:25,719
Speaker 2: to mac Jones.

1565
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:29,639
Speaker 3: Today was a solid enough day for mac Jones.

1566
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 2: But by and large, I don't think many people are

1567
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 2: hitching the Patriots future to his wagon anymore. And so

1568
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 2: when you look at all of those things, I do

1569
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 2: think it's good that Bills a defensive guy or else

1570
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 2: this would feel different with regard to assessing where the

1571
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 2: Patriots are at.

1572
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I also think, you know, I having watched

1573
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick coach for the last two decades and the

1574
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 4: success that he's had and the defenses that he's had,

1575
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 4: you know, I'm sure whether he's a defensive minded coach

1576
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 4: and offensive minded head coach, you know he had. There's

1577
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 4: really been nothing for New England to hang their hat

1578
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:13,559
Speaker 4: on so far this year up until today, where you know,

1579
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 4: they played some good football. They turned the Bills over.

1580
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 4: Mac did look a lot better, way more efficient, making

1581
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 4: big throws. Certainly the drive at the end of the

1582
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 4: game to set up the game winning touchdown. I think

1583
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:33,760
Speaker 4: those are things to where if you start seeing glimpses

1584
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 4: of that, you go Okay, now we're seeing signs of

1585
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 4: the guy we thought drafted, the guy we saw his

1586
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 4: rookie year. You know, we we've given him the free

1587
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 4: pass because of the situation he was placed in last year.

1588
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 4: And now it's we're seven games into the season. We

1589
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 4: feel like we haven't seen any sort of rebound off

1590
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 4: of that tough year last year year. And I think

1591
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:03,719
Speaker 4: today was kind of the first day that you saw

1592
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:07,719
Speaker 4: some signs of life from Mac Jones in this offense.

1593
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 4: And you know, again, at times, I do say it's

1594
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 4: unfair to to put all of this on Mac Jones.

1595
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 4: And you know, the way they've kind of built this

1596
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 4: New England offense, you know, in my opinion, probably one

1597
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:22,839
Speaker 4: of the least talented wide receiver rooms in the NFL.

1598
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 4: You know what's what's a really easy way to make

1599
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 4: a quarterback look bad by not having any weapons around

1600
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 4: him would be probably number one and the easiest way

1601
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 4: to make him struggle. So, you know, again, who knows,

1602
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 4: maybe maybe Bill's still doctoring this up to revamp this

1603
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:43,760
Speaker 4: team in the offseason and make another run at it.

1604
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:47,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do wonder, I do wonder where this is

1605
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 2: all going for the New England Pages because you're right.

1606
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 2: I mean, you look at that offensive roster. Ramandre Stevenson

1607
01:27:57,600 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 2: had a nice enough day. I know that there's no

1608
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:04,760
Speaker 2: value with Ezekiel Elliott, but that receiving core that you're

1609
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 2: talking about, Kendrick Bourne and Jalen Rager.

1610
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:09,879
Speaker 3: And DeVante Parker.

1611
01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to come down the road of any

1612
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 2: of those players. They've all proven themselves as NFL receivers.

1613
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 2: But I just it is a group right now that

1614
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 2: lacks an identity at such an intense level, they do

1615
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 2: not feel close. And so, yes, they got a nice

1616
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 2: win today. It gets him to two and five. I

1617
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 2: still think we know where this season is going. It's

1618
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 2: a losing record. It might even be last place in

1619
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 2: that division. And so it's a nice day for Bill

1620
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 2: and he got a contract extension. I don't think Bill's

1621
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 2: the problem. It doesn't mean there aren't a ton of problems.

1622
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:57,240
Speaker 4: No, but talking about coach Belichick and his ability as

1623
01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:01,720
Speaker 4: a coach and then changing gears and talking about this offense,

1624
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 4: you know, at what point do you think, Okay, he's

1625
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:06,880
Speaker 4: got the contract extension as a head coach, but that

1626
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 4: does that mean he's just going to be a head coach?

1627
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:11,599
Speaker 4: In the future, do they start to introduce maybe a

1628
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 4: GM here at some point to come in and try

1629
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 4: to rebuild this team, because for twenty years they had

1630
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 4: the ultimate eraser at the quarterback position, and if they

1631
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 4: didn't have a roster that was as talented as maybe

1632
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 4: other teams in the AFC or across the AFC in general.

1633
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 4: You have the greatest quarterback of all time, and he

1634
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:35,759
Speaker 4: can make up for that he makes others around him better.

1635
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 4: And now without Tom Brady at the quarterback position, you're

1636
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 4: seeing the lack of talent around the quarterback because you

1637
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 4: don't have the greatest quarterback of all time elevating the

1638
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 4: play of these offensive skill players around him. So certainly

1639
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 4: it'll be interesting as they move forward. One thing we

1640
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 4: do know, Coach Belichick's not going anywhere, as he just

1641
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:01,080
Speaker 4: signed the contract extension.

1642
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:06,280
Speaker 2: Exactly now, while we're talking quarterbacks, we got to start

1643
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 2: priving this discussion up and having it because we started

1644
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 2: our show talking about Josh Allen. And while I think

1645
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 2: he's a wonderful player, there's no way around that. It's

1646
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 2: obvious anyone with two eyes. But I do think he

1647
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:23,720
Speaker 2: gets placed on a pedestal next to Patrick mahomes a

1648
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:26,519
Speaker 2: lot that you know, like, that's not the way we

1649
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 2: do sports. It's not to say that he's not a

1650
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 2: wonderful player, but he has not achieved the things that

1651
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:35,599
Speaker 2: Patrick has and his team has. I think, I don't

1652
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:38,240
Speaker 2: know if underachieved is the right word. It is this

1653
01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 2: year sitting at four and three and you kind of

1654
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:43,479
Speaker 2: made the point, it's like the team has become too

1655
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:46,519
Speaker 2: Josh Allen focused to where it's just like, hey, Josh,

1656
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:49,599
Speaker 2: can you bail us out on the daily? And if

1657
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:52,840
Speaker 2: you can, we win, and if you can't, we might not. Well,

1658
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:58,160
Speaker 2: there is a mini version of Josh Allen also in

1659
01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:01,880
Speaker 2: the league, who I think is suffering from some of

1660
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 2: the same stuff at an even higher level because his

1661
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:10,960
Speaker 2: organizational structure doesn't offer him what Josh gets in Buffalo.

1662
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:15,000
Speaker 2: So we will get to that conversation coming up next.

1663
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1668
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:42,679
Speaker 2: I want to get to a conversation about Justin Herbert.

1669
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:44,720
Speaker 2: That's the man I'm referring to in what we were

1670
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:47,720
Speaker 2: talking about a second ago. But I'm gonna put it

1671
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:51,200
Speaker 2: aside for just a minute or two and ask you,

1672
01:31:51,880 --> 01:31:55,760
Speaker 2: have you heard about this? Talk about the Golden Challenge?

1673
01:31:56,280 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 2: Have you heard about this? I am not okay, the

1674
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:02,480
Speaker 2: Golden Challenge.

1675
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:03,439
Speaker 3: Here's the idea.

1676
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:08,160
Speaker 2: The idea would be that we all know in the

1677
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:14,120
Speaker 2: NFL what is and what is not reviewable. We also

1678
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:16,720
Speaker 2: know that you have a certain number of challenges and

1679
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:20,840
Speaker 2: when you're out of them, and you've got timeout situations

1680
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:23,280
Speaker 2: attached to it and all that, you're out of luck.

1681
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:29,040
Speaker 2: But there's discussion about the Golden Challenge, and I think

1682
01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:31,960
Speaker 2: it's one of the best ideas I've heard of in

1683
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:35,679
Speaker 2: a long time. And the idea is basically, the Golden

1684
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:40,760
Speaker 2: Challenge skips out on all the rules. The Golden Challenge

1685
01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:45,599
Speaker 2: can be anything, anything.

1686
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:45,559
Speaker 3: You want it to be.

1687
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 2: For that one play, all of the rules are out

1688
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:56,320
Speaker 2: the window. The coach says, it's Golden Challenge time, and

1689
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:59,639
Speaker 2: the officials have got to go review a play and

1690
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 2: call based on exactly what they see, no matter what

1691
01:33:04,200 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 2: the call is. Hold pass interference, fumble recovery, did the

1692
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:11,799
Speaker 2: whistle blow?

1693
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 3: Throw it all out the.

1694
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:20,400
Speaker 2: Window, golden challenge. You can challenge anything you want one time,

1695
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:26,800
Speaker 2: and obviously you would hold it for moments that are incredibly,

1696
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:29,800
Speaker 2: incredibly instrumental in the outcome of the game.

1697
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:30,960
Speaker 3: What do you think.

1698
01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:35,040
Speaker 1: There's part of me that likes it.

1699
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:37,919
Speaker 4: There's part of me that wants to get these calls

1700
01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:44,040
Speaker 4: right that are ultimately causing teams football games. I think

1701
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:50,559
Speaker 4: we saw a few of those today. Unfortunately, we've talked

1702
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:55,000
Speaker 4: about this before where it's getting worse and worse, and

1703
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:58,839
Speaker 4: I don't know that it's necessarily the fact that NFL

1704
01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:02,800
Speaker 4: officiating is getting worse and worse. Although I have my

1705
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:07,120
Speaker 4: issues with NFL officiating, I don't necessarily think it's the

1706
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 4: performance of NFL officials as opposed to the camera angles

1707
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:16,559
Speaker 4: and the technology that we have as viewers, and these

1708
01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:20,759
Speaker 4: human beings are watching something at full speed in person

1709
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:25,840
Speaker 4: and making a decision. So you know, we've talked about

1710
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:27,880
Speaker 4: that that when we sit at home on our couch

1711
01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:30,400
Speaker 4: and we get to watch it five times at slow mo,

1712
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:32,719
Speaker 4: you go, how do you miss that? Like we saw

1713
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:36,280
Speaker 4: it plain as day. Well, they have a split second

1714
01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:40,200
Speaker 4: to make the decision, and it's not always as easy

1715
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:43,080
Speaker 4: as it looks when you get to break it down

1716
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:47,400
Speaker 4: with multiple angles and slow mo YadA, YadA YadA. So

1717
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 4: part of me loves the fact of getting every call right.

1718
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:52,720
Speaker 1: You know.

1719
01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:59,680
Speaker 4: Again, it comes down to why why doesn't just expedited

1720
01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:03,880
Speaker 4: re plays handled this. That's something that I mentioned last

1721
01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 4: time we talked about this issue of officiating that whether

1722
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:12,559
Speaker 4: it's because it has to be blatant, that's the whole

1723
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:19,120
Speaker 4: point of replay is it's clear, conclusive evidence that that

1724
01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:21,760
Speaker 4: call was wrong and it should have been called this.

1725
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:25,920
Speaker 4: So if we're talking about penalties and incorporating penalties into

1726
01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:29,759
Speaker 4: that and these decisions that reps are making, or if

1727
01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:34,599
Speaker 4: there's an awful spot on fourth and one and it's

1728
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:36,800
Speaker 4: just outside the two men and that team doesn't have

1729
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:41,519
Speaker 4: any more timeouts so they can't challenge the spot, then

1730
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:47,080
Speaker 4: ultimately expedited we saw the first replay in the Rams

1731
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:50,719
Speaker 4: Steelers game and realize that that is an awful spot.

1732
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:53,680
Speaker 4: There's no way that's a first down, but yet it

1733
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 4: never got reviewed because the Rams didn't have any timeouts left,

1734
01:36:00,160 --> 01:36:02,519
Speaker 4: wasn't under the two minute, it was up to the

1735
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 4: two minute, and then ultimately the two minute warning happened.

1736
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 4: They can't go back and review the play, and so

1737
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:12,040
Speaker 4: we don't ever look at it. The call is not

1738
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:15,000
Speaker 4: correct and the Rams lose the game. Who know, if

1739
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:17,120
Speaker 4: they would have got the ball back, they would have

1740
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 4: gone down and scored.

1741
01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:18,720
Speaker 1: We don't know.

1742
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:21,840
Speaker 4: But then also, the other game that comes to mind

1743
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:25,639
Speaker 4: for me today is Indi and Cleveland back to back.

1744
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:26,639
Speaker 1: One.

1745
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:32,160
Speaker 4: I'm okay with the other awful call, But here's my

1746
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:39,080
Speaker 4: biggest issue with NFL officiating in every industry all across

1747
01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:47,280
Speaker 4: the world, and especially professional sports. If we're not good

1748
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:55,600
Speaker 4: at our jobs on a consistent basis, we have repercussions

1749
01:36:55,960 --> 01:37:02,000
Speaker 4: for those mistakes or inability that we don't have either. Hey,

1750
01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:04,800
Speaker 4: I'm not as good at football anymore, so I don't

1751
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 4: get to play anymore, or I don't get to play

1752
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:10,000
Speaker 4: as much as I would if I'm better than that guy.

1753
01:37:10,040 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 4: In the NFL officiating world, it's the same guys every

1754
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:21,560
Speaker 4: week on the same cruise, and there's no there's no repercussions.

1755
01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:25,479
Speaker 4: For now, I'm just not to say bad calls for

1756
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:30,599
Speaker 4: poor performance, because poor performance is what leads to bad calls.

1757
01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:34,719
Speaker 4: So ultimately it's I feel for them and the fact

1758
01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:39,240
Speaker 4: that we as viewers get to see it all slow motion,

1759
01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:42,360
Speaker 4: instant replay. But every single one of these officials are

1760
01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:46,240
Speaker 4: graded just like we're graded as players. But for us

1761
01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:51,200
Speaker 4: as players, if we're graded poorly, we're replaced. We don't

1762
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 4: play as much the next week or the next season.

1763
01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:57,800
Speaker 4: You're not on the team because they release you because

1764
01:37:57,800 --> 01:37:59,800
Speaker 4: you didn't grade out as well as maybe some of

1765
01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:03,719
Speaker 4: the other tight ends that they have available. So that's

1766
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 4: always been my biggest issue with all sports professional sports

1767
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:17,519
Speaker 4: officiating across NBA, Major League Baseball, NFL. It drives me

1768
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:20,840
Speaker 4: nuts because yet we see the same guys calling the

1769
01:38:20,920 --> 01:38:25,719
Speaker 4: same games year in and year out, and nothing's ever done.

1770
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:28,640
Speaker 4: It's just, oh, well, he missed that call, or you know,

1771
01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:30,800
Speaker 4: he hasn't been as good an official as he maybe

1772
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 4: was in the past, but we don't do anything about it.

1773
01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:38,360
Speaker 2: Well, they're protected, and I understand why to a degree,

1774
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:43,200
Speaker 2: but like I feel like protected at too high of

1775
01:38:43,240 --> 01:38:46,959
Speaker 2: a level. There's no press conference afterwards, there's no questions

1776
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:49,840
Speaker 2: that you can ask, you can't get to them in

1777
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:52,280
Speaker 2: any way, shape or form.

1778
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:54,080
Speaker 3: You can't question them.

1779
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:56,840
Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, in your own press conference,

1780
01:38:57,000 --> 01:38:58,639
Speaker 2: you're not allowed to refer to them.

1781
01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 3: You're not allowed to plain about it. I can't stand that.

1782
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:08,080
Speaker 2: I don't know why we can't speak freely about what happened.

1783
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:11,479
Speaker 2: Like the reason I even brought this up is because

1784
01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:14,120
Speaker 2: moments ago and the Miami Dolphins went forward on a

1785
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:17,880
Speaker 2: fourth and three the receiver Wilson, who tries to stop

1786
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:22,519
Speaker 2: for a back shoulder throw, his face mask is yanked

1787
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:26,679
Speaker 2: by the defensive player and there's no hold, there's no

1788
01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:31,639
Speaker 2: pass interference. It's just missed. And that's fine, we miss things.

1789
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:32,559
Speaker 3: I get it.

1790
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:36,400
Speaker 2: But should Mike McDaniel be able to a use a

1791
01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:41,000
Speaker 2: Golden challenge or should Mike McDaniel be able to after

1792
01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:43,280
Speaker 2: the game. Now, it turns out Miami on the very

1793
01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:46,000
Speaker 2: next play gets a pick six off of Jalen Hurts.

1794
01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 3: The game is tied.

1795
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:51,519
Speaker 2: So maybe it's, you know, let bygones be bygones. But

1796
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:55,639
Speaker 2: why are we so scared of Mike McDaniel after the game,

1797
01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:56,760
Speaker 2: being like, look.

1798
01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:59,000
Speaker 3: It's fourth and three, we wanted to go for it.

1799
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:00,719
Speaker 3: We threw it back shoulder throw.

1800
01:40:01,479 --> 01:40:04,599
Speaker 2: Our player got his face mask pulled and we didn't

1801
01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:07,360
Speaker 2: get called, and so that kind of ruined the whole thing,

1802
01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:10,880
Speaker 2: like why can't he say that? Why are we so

1803
01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:15,439
Speaker 2: scared of that? For me, it's too much insulation, Kyle.

1804
01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:19,600
Speaker 4: Instead, you turn in the plays that you watch on

1805
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:23,000
Speaker 4: Monday and you get the report from the NFL on

1806
01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 4: Wednesday or Thursday that says, yeah, we're sorry, we missed

1807
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:29,320
Speaker 4: that one that should have been called or this should

1808
01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:32,160
Speaker 4: have been called, And it's like, okay, great, Like what

1809
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:36,080
Speaker 4: does that do now that you cost us a football game?

1810
01:40:37,200 --> 01:40:39,959
Speaker 4: But we're glad that you guys went back and admitted

1811
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:43,400
Speaker 4: that you missed the call when everyone there knew it

1812
01:40:43,439 --> 01:40:47,240
Speaker 4: was blatant and it was completely missed. So again, I

1813
01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:51,840
Speaker 4: don't know if that's a golden challenge or expedited replay. Again,

1814
01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:54,320
Speaker 4: that would have taken two seconds to call it whatever

1815
01:40:54,360 --> 01:40:57,000
Speaker 4: you want to call it, defensive passage, you're in holding

1816
01:40:57,160 --> 01:40:59,880
Speaker 4: face mask, pick one of the three, whatever you want

1817
01:40:59,920 --> 01:41:02,639
Speaker 4: to call it. They get the first down, We move

1818
01:41:02,680 --> 01:41:06,879
Speaker 4: on with the game. The call is correct because that official,

1819
01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:09,800
Speaker 4: for I don't know what he was looking at, it's

1820
01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:12,519
Speaker 4: that one was the one that you didn't need slow

1821
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:16,000
Speaker 4: motion and multiple camera angles you see him the defender

1822
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:19,160
Speaker 4: grab his face mask and pull him when he's trying

1823
01:41:19,160 --> 01:41:21,960
Speaker 4: to go back and get the football. So no, I

1824
01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:25,080
Speaker 4: completely agree with you. It drives me nuts that the

1825
01:41:25,240 --> 01:41:29,120
Speaker 4: NFL officials are protected. And you know you as a coach,

1826
01:41:29,120 --> 01:41:32,320
Speaker 4: as a player, you know, we can be talked about

1827
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:36,599
Speaker 4: and our performance, our poor performances can be highlighted after

1828
01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:40,120
Speaker 4: a game, but yet officials are not allowed to be

1829
01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:43,479
Speaker 4: It's just, oh well, it's the human element of the game.

1830
01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:45,599
Speaker 4: And we'll move on to next week and we'll put

1831
01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:48,800
Speaker 4: the same officials in the same positions who blew it

1832
01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:49,519
Speaker 4: the week before.

1833
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:53,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I know you have a good relationship

1834
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:55,800
Speaker 2: with Peter King and a couple of or I guess

1835
01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:58,920
Speaker 2: a week ago Football Morning in America. His column ended

1836
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:04,559
Speaker 2: with I've watched the PJ. Walker play just before half

1837
01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:09,560
Speaker 2: fifty times, and I cannot figure out how the official

1838
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:13,040
Speaker 2: who not only called it in real time, then reviewed

1839
01:42:13,160 --> 01:42:16,800
Speaker 2: his own call and came out and said, that's not

1840
01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:19,559
Speaker 2: a fumble, it's an incomplete pass. He goes, I've watched

1841
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:22,400
Speaker 2: it fifty times. I can't figure out how you came

1842
01:42:22,479 --> 01:42:23,480
Speaker 2: to that conclusion.

1843
01:42:23,880 --> 01:42:25,160
Speaker 3: I'm thinking the same thing.

1844
01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:28,280
Speaker 2: But what I'm talking about tonight is why can't Kyle

1845
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:34,280
Speaker 2: Shanahan say that. Why can't he after the game be like, look, yeah,

1846
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:37,240
Speaker 2: we missed the kick, we committed too many penalties.

1847
01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:39,040
Speaker 3: Here's all the things we did wrong.

1848
01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:42,360
Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, that was a fumble and

1849
01:42:42,439 --> 01:42:46,479
Speaker 2: it probably also was one of five or six things

1850
01:42:46,520 --> 01:42:48,120
Speaker 2: that helped cost us the game today.

1851
01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:52,120
Speaker 1: I mean, Mark, technically, he can if he's willing to

1852
01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:52,720
Speaker 1: pay for it.

1853
01:42:53,560 --> 01:42:55,680
Speaker 3: Pay for it's not free.

1854
01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:56,759
Speaker 1: No be free.

1855
01:42:57,280 --> 01:42:59,439
Speaker 4: And you do see coaches from time to time they

1856
01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:02,040
Speaker 4: know exact exactly what it's going to cost them when

1857
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:03,760
Speaker 4: they go up there to the podium and they just

1858
01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:09,400
Speaker 4: fight out, can't take it anymore, and they say, this

1859
01:43:09,479 --> 01:43:12,080
Speaker 4: cost us the game or would have been great to

1860
01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:15,360
Speaker 4: get this call right, and they pay for it, which

1861
01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:16,640
Speaker 4: is ridiculous.

1862
01:43:17,960 --> 01:43:20,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in full agreement on that.

1863
01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:23,400
Speaker 2: Okay, let's get to the Herbert thing coming up in

1864
01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:26,720
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes, Mark World, Kyle Rudolph. But let's

1865
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:29,160
Speaker 2: get Martin weis in here as well, and find out

1866
01:43:29,240 --> 01:43:31,880
Speaker 2: what is trending on this Sunday night.

1867
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:32,479
Speaker 3: Mark ten.

1868
01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:34,679
Speaker 7: I'm sorry I have to take a second because Bill

1869
01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:38,200
Speaker 7: Vinovich he gives me nightmares to this day after not

1870
01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:41,000
Speaker 7: calling what was the worst non call in NFL history

1871
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:44,040
Speaker 7: when Nickel Roby Coleman took Tommy Lee Lewis's head off

1872
01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:46,639
Speaker 7: in the playoffs and then you know what, I gotta

1873
01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 7: go watch the Rams score total of three points in

1874
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:51,240
Speaker 7: the Super Bowl. You can't tell me Drew Brees when

1875
01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:55,400
Speaker 7: they gotten his second one. Come on, not to mention

1876
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:57,479
Speaker 7: maybe Kyle Rudolph pushing off of the endz on the

1877
01:43:57,520 --> 01:43:57,880
Speaker 7: next year.

1878
01:43:58,120 --> 01:43:59,360
Speaker 3: And I'm just kidding, sorry, I'm.

1879
01:43:59,479 --> 01:44:01,280
Speaker 1: I'm just it's all good.

1880
01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:03,759
Speaker 4: They changed the rule for you guys, and they still

1881
01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:05,680
Speaker 4: reviewed that catch, so I don't give you that one.

1882
01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:06,720
Speaker 1: No, I'm just playing man.

1883
01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:08,200
Speaker 3: Congratulations, got to get that win.

1884
01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:11,400
Speaker 7: But you know, as a Saints fan, tore my heart out.

1885
01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:12,679
Speaker 3: All right, Let's get to the business.

1886
01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:15,920
Speaker 7: ALCS Underway Game six, Astros up three to two in

1887
01:44:15,960 --> 01:44:18,280
Speaker 7: the series, but the Rangers up four to two in

1888
01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:20,519
Speaker 7: the bottom of the eighth inning on one on one out

1889
01:44:20,560 --> 01:44:24,000
Speaker 7: for the Astros right now. Sunday Night Football Eagles tied

1890
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:27,599
Speaker 7: with the Dolphins seventeen apiece. Like you guys just said,

1891
01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:30,919
Speaker 7: a bad, bad, missed face mask call on Cedrick Wilson

1892
01:44:30,920 --> 01:44:34,200
Speaker 7: and James Bradbury. But you know, football guys answered in

1893
01:44:34,280 --> 01:44:36,680
Speaker 7: Jalen Hurst to an interception to Erron Baker on the

1894
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:39,160
Speaker 7: very next play, so that game is tied up seventeen

1895
01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:41,920
Speaker 7: all one minute, fifteen seconds left in the third quarter.

1896
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:44,880
Speaker 7: Earlier today, Jordan Love threw a late interception that crushed

1897
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:47,240
Speaker 7: the Packers second and half comeback. Broncos hold on to

1898
01:44:47,240 --> 01:44:50,360
Speaker 7: beat the Packers nineteen to seventeen. Chiefs beat the Chargers

1899
01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:53,519
Speaker 7: thirty one to seventeen. Talking about tight ends, Travis Kelcey

1900
01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:55,799
Speaker 7: twelve catches on hundred seventy nine yards and a touchdown.

1901
01:44:56,240 --> 01:44:59,479
Speaker 7: Seahawks beat the Cardinals on the backs of rookie wide

1902
01:44:59,479 --> 01:45:03,320
Speaker 7: receivers Jackson Smith and Jake Bobo, both with career first

1903
01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:04,960
Speaker 7: touchdowns there twenty to ten.

1904
01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:05,719
Speaker 1: The final score.

1905
01:45:05,720 --> 01:45:08,760
Speaker 7: Stealers beat the Rams twenty four to seventeen, Bears beat

1906
01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:11,600
Speaker 7: the Raiders thirty to twelve, The Ravens walked over the

1907
01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:15,080
Speaker 7: Lions thirty eight to six, and Browns beat the Colts

1908
01:45:15,080 --> 01:45:16,960
Speaker 7: thirty nine to eight. In the game, Deshaun Watch has

1909
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:20,040
Speaker 7: started clear to concussion evaluation, but did not finish. He

1910
01:45:20,080 --> 01:45:22,040
Speaker 7: did not come back in the game after that PJ.

1911
01:45:22,160 --> 01:45:25,320
Speaker 7: Walker finished the game out. Bill Belichick got his three

1912
01:45:25,360 --> 01:45:27,679
Speaker 7: hundredth career win, making him the third winning its coach

1913
01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:30,040
Speaker 7: in NFL history. As the Patriots upset the Bills twenty

1914
01:45:30,120 --> 01:45:33,839
Speaker 7: nine to twenty five, Giants beat the Commanders fourteen to seven,

1915
01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:37,320
Speaker 7: and the Falcons walk off the Buccaneers sixteen to thirteen.

1916
01:45:37,360 --> 01:45:39,920
Speaker 7: They are now in sole position in first place in

1917
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:42,800
Speaker 7: the NFC South. Kyle and Mark, back to you.

1918
01:45:43,880 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 3: Okay, Martin, great stuff.

1919
01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:49,040
Speaker 2: Appreciate you tonight so much, Mark, Willard, Kyle Rudolph Live

1920
01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:54,560
Speaker 2: Ty IRAQ dot Com Studios. All right, justin Herbert, to me,

1921
01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:59,400
Speaker 2: it's it's a mini Josh Allen situation at least because

1922
01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:02,240
Speaker 2: he's not even won a playoff game.

1923
01:46:02,280 --> 01:46:03,719
Speaker 3: He took them there last time.

1924
01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:06,800
Speaker 2: He had a huge lead at Jacksonville and then the

1925
01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:10,240
Speaker 2: whole thing dissipated. And you and I have had already

1926
01:46:10,479 --> 01:46:14,240
Speaker 2: in the short life of this show plenty oh conversation

1927
01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:19,800
Speaker 2: around Brandon Staley. And I've always believed that everything that

1928
01:46:19,840 --> 01:46:24,000
Speaker 2: goes on with the charge of organization is actually hampered

1929
01:46:24,080 --> 01:46:27,640
Speaker 2: by the entire structure of that organization.

1930
01:46:28,520 --> 01:46:30,679
Speaker 3: It trickles down from the top.

1931
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:34,840
Speaker 2: It has since the discussion of a handful of years

1932
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:38,760
Speaker 2: ago that led to relocation. There's just something about it.

1933
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:43,080
Speaker 2: Even though they have finally started to loosen the purse strings,

1934
01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:45,439
Speaker 2: put a lot of money into this team. You see

1935
01:46:45,479 --> 01:46:51,600
Speaker 2: on defense, Khalil Mack, Joey Bosa, Derwin James. It somehow

1936
01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:55,200
Speaker 2: should be a better football team. But we're sitting here

1937
01:46:55,760 --> 01:46:59,559
Speaker 2: talking about Justin Herbert in very similar ways that we

1938
01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:04,360
Speaker 2: do Josh Allen, Joe Burrow and maybe even a little

1939
01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:08,400
Speaker 2: bit of Patrick Mahomes. And like you and I have

1940
01:47:08,439 --> 01:47:11,800
Speaker 2: talked about this, they're two and four, Kyle, They're like

1941
01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:14,160
Speaker 2: a breath away from being Owen six.

1942
01:47:15,400 --> 01:47:19,799
Speaker 3: I mean a breath away from being Owen six.

1943
01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:23,679
Speaker 2: Those picks at the goal line after their failed fourth

1944
01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:26,400
Speaker 2: downs are the only reason they've got.

1945
01:47:26,200 --> 01:47:27,320
Speaker 3: Two wins this year.

1946
01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:30,479
Speaker 2: And we're still talking about this guy like he's an

1947
01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:31,799
Speaker 2: elite back.

1948
01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:34,959
Speaker 3: And I actually don't want to back off the opinion.

1949
01:47:35,360 --> 01:47:39,080
Speaker 2: I do think he is a fantastic player, and for

1950
01:47:39,160 --> 01:47:43,760
Speaker 2: whatever reason, whatever's going into that stew around him, it

1951
01:47:43,960 --> 01:47:47,880
Speaker 2: just tastes bad. What do you see what has to

1952
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:48,719
Speaker 2: be different there?

1953
01:47:50,160 --> 01:47:54,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I think when you talk about Justin Herbert,

1954
01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:58,479
Speaker 4: the reason why he gets mentioned in the conversation with

1955
01:47:58,680 --> 01:48:01,160
Speaker 4: Mahomes and Allen, And I can't tell you how many

1956
01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:03,839
Speaker 4: times you hear people when you talk about the AFC West.

1957
01:48:04,280 --> 01:48:08,679
Speaker 4: It's like when you're talking about Vegas and Denver, you're

1958
01:48:08,720 --> 01:48:12,479
Speaker 4: talking about, Oh, well, they're in Herbert and Mahomes's division,

1959
01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:15,839
Speaker 4: and it's like, wait a second, they're in whose division?

1960
01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 4: Like Herbert and Mahomes. Like we're talking about them as

1961
01:48:18,240 --> 01:48:20,280
Speaker 4: if they're one and the same, like you're scared of

1962
01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:25,680
Speaker 4: both of them equally. But I think it's it's because

1963
01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:29,800
Speaker 4: you look at this guy and I've I've played against him,

1964
01:48:29,800 --> 01:48:32,639
Speaker 4: I've seen it live in person, and I've certainly seen

1965
01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:34,639
Speaker 4: it on tape countless times.

1966
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Speaker 1: He has an.

1967
01:48:36,560 --> 01:48:40,400
Speaker 4: Elite skill set like his ability to throw the football,

1968
01:48:40,439 --> 01:48:42,880
Speaker 4: and some of the throws he makes, no one on

1969
01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:47,639
Speaker 4: the planet can even attempt to make, and he throws

1970
01:48:47,680 --> 01:48:50,719
Speaker 4: it all over the yard. They put up crazy numbers

1971
01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:54,080
Speaker 4: a lot. You know, he throws it to Keenan Allen

1972
01:48:54,160 --> 01:48:56,840
Speaker 4: and all these guys. And you know, I remember when

1973
01:48:56,840 --> 01:48:59,719
Speaker 4: I watched them in person against the Vikings this year,

1974
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:03,840
Speaker 4: Keenan Allen had eighteen catches and they threw for over

1975
01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:05,759
Speaker 4: four hundred yards and I think he had a couple

1976
01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:10,439
Speaker 4: incompletions the whole game. Yet, and again, it kind of

1977
01:49:10,479 --> 01:49:13,960
Speaker 4: goes back to our analytics conversation with Brandon Stally.

1978
01:49:14,760 --> 01:49:15,560
Speaker 1: Analytics.

1979
01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:20,200
Speaker 4: First of all, there's no momentum or emotion ever factored

1980
01:49:20,200 --> 01:49:26,120
Speaker 4: into analytics. But the other thing about analytics, Analytics give

1981
01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:32,839
Speaker 4: you the suggestions that will lead to scoring the most points,

1982
01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:36,639
Speaker 4: and people say, well, that's great. To the great Magic Johnson,

1983
01:49:37,080 --> 01:49:40,120
Speaker 4: you can't win a game if you only score seven points.

1984
01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:44,439
Speaker 4: So why would that not why would that not hold

1985
01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:46,960
Speaker 4: true to Well, of course you want to score the

1986
01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:51,080
Speaker 4: most points. That's not always the case. Scoring the most

1987
01:49:51,120 --> 01:49:55,120
Speaker 4: points does not mean winning the most games. And go

1988
01:49:55,200 --> 01:50:01,120
Speaker 4: back to their twenty seven point playoff lead that they

1989
01:50:01,160 --> 01:50:04,440
Speaker 4: blew last year in the wildcard game. There were decisions

1990
01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:06,519
Speaker 4: that were made throughout the course of that game, even

1991
01:50:06,520 --> 01:50:08,720
Speaker 4: the week before when they had to win to get

1992
01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:13,639
Speaker 4: in against the Raiders and ultimately didn't but still still

1993
01:50:13,680 --> 01:50:14,439
Speaker 4: got in.

1994
01:50:14,320 --> 01:50:15,960
Speaker 1: The year before. It's like.

1995
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Speaker 4: They make decisions around Justin Herbert that may be made

1996
01:50:21,640 --> 01:50:25,000
Speaker 4: to score the most points, but they're not made to

1997
01:50:25,120 --> 01:50:28,960
Speaker 4: win football games. And I think that's why we see

1998
01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:32,880
Speaker 4: Justin Herbert have the struggles that he has. Yeah, he

1999
01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:35,519
Speaker 4: may put up crazy numbers and score crazy points and

2000
01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:38,680
Speaker 4: make these elite throws that nobody else can make, but

2001
01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:43,439
Speaker 4: ultimately we're looking at a guy who couldn't win a

2002
01:50:43,479 --> 01:50:47,879
Speaker 4: game in week seventeen or week eighteen against a division

2003
01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:50,720
Speaker 4: opponent in the Raiders to get into the playoffs, then

2004
01:50:50,760 --> 01:50:55,599
Speaker 4: the next year blew a twenty seven point wildcard lead,

2005
01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:59,639
Speaker 4: and then a team that's two and four. So again,

2006
01:50:59,680 --> 01:51:02,040
Speaker 4: I think gets less on Justin Herbert and more so

2007
01:51:02,120 --> 01:51:04,200
Speaker 4: on the environment around him.

2008
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't disagree.

2009
01:51:07,000 --> 01:51:11,880
Speaker 2: It's just odd because you look at the board at

2010
01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:15,600
Speaker 2: all the top quarterback stats in the NFL, and I know,

2011
01:51:15,640 --> 01:51:16,920
Speaker 2: you had a little bit of a tough day. You

2012
01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:20,320
Speaker 2: had a couple of interceptions today, so his ratio took

2013
01:51:20,360 --> 01:51:22,000
Speaker 2: a little bit of a hit today. He's now got

2014
01:51:22,040 --> 01:51:25,200
Speaker 2: ten touchdowns, four picks, Not that that's even that bad,

2015
01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:29,840
Speaker 2: but you look at this guy's yardage totals and right

2016
01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:33,320
Speaker 2: now he's sitting there in the neighborhood is sixteen hundred yards.

2017
01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:38,599
Speaker 2: As I mentioned, ten touchdowns, four interceptions, a QB rating

2018
01:51:38,640 --> 01:51:42,760
Speaker 2: that's hovering around one hundred. And when you look at

2019
01:51:42,840 --> 01:51:48,160
Speaker 2: the other players that are all in the same statistical conversation.

2020
01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:52,679
Speaker 2: You don't find anybody who's on a team that's losing

2021
01:51:53,600 --> 01:51:57,599
Speaker 2: that none his contemporaries. If you look up and down

2022
01:51:57,640 --> 01:52:02,920
Speaker 2: this list, it's brock Purty, it's Mahomes, it's Alan, it's Tua,

2023
01:52:03,439 --> 01:52:08,800
Speaker 2: it's Golf, it's Lamar And maybe i'd add in Doc

2024
01:52:08,920 --> 01:52:11,000
Speaker 2: Prescott and Geno Smith.

2025
01:52:11,360 --> 01:52:15,000
Speaker 3: What do they all have in common? They win more.

2026
01:52:14,800 --> 01:52:18,560
Speaker 2: Games than they lose, and so there is just something

2027
01:52:18,760 --> 01:52:21,800
Speaker 2: in the water with this team. I feel like this

2028
01:52:21,960 --> 01:52:25,960
Speaker 2: is gonna come down. There'll be a national narrative that's building.

2029
01:52:26,000 --> 01:52:26,840
Speaker 2: I already feel it.

2030
01:52:26,880 --> 01:52:29,000
Speaker 3: Oh, Justin is not what he's cracked up to me.

2031
01:52:29,120 --> 01:52:31,160
Speaker 3: Yes he is, Yes he is.

2032
01:52:31,240 --> 01:52:35,160
Speaker 2: There is something else going on with that squad that

2033
01:52:35,320 --> 01:52:38,080
Speaker 2: is preventing them from winning, and I don't believe that

2034
01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:39,760
Speaker 2: it's Justin Well.

2035
01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:43,519
Speaker 4: And the biggest thing that's going to cause that narrative

2036
01:52:43,600 --> 01:52:46,439
Speaker 4: to change is, you know, when he did it his

2037
01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:50,200
Speaker 4: first three years, he did it on a rookie contract.

2038
01:52:50,320 --> 01:52:57,040
Speaker 4: The expectations were not there. It may have been something

2039
01:52:57,120 --> 01:52:59,439
Speaker 4: from the outside where we're saying, hey, you know, this

2040
01:52:59,479 --> 01:53:02,800
Speaker 4: guy is a a high draft pick, but we give

2041
01:53:02,880 --> 01:53:05,880
Speaker 4: him the benefit of the doubt. He's still a young quarterback.

2042
01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:11,599
Speaker 4: We can blame it on everything around him. Now, moving forward,

2043
01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:16,000
Speaker 4: you sign that big contract, you're going to start losing

2044
01:53:16,080 --> 01:53:19,479
Speaker 4: some of those key players that you mentioned before, just

2045
01:53:19,520 --> 01:53:22,320
Speaker 4: because you simply can't pay everyone when you're paying a

2046
01:53:22,400 --> 01:53:26,400
Speaker 4: quarterback fifty two million dollars a year, So more pressure

2047
01:53:26,439 --> 01:53:29,960
Speaker 4: will be added to him. And if they don't change

2048
01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:33,160
Speaker 4: kind of the culture around him, whether that be in

2049
01:53:33,200 --> 01:53:37,280
Speaker 4: the building. You know, they certainly brought in Kellen Moore

2050
01:53:37,320 --> 01:53:41,480
Speaker 4: this year to try to give him a younger offensive perspective,

2051
01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:45,080
Speaker 4: a guy who had great offenses in Dallas. Uh, but

2052
01:53:45,320 --> 01:53:48,080
Speaker 4: it's just not working out. As they sit at two

2053
01:53:48,160 --> 01:53:48,519
Speaker 4: and four.

2054
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Speaker 2: We're livingthetyrak dot com studios coming up next. It has

2055
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2057
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Speaker 2: Mark Willard, Fox Sports Radio.

2058
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Speaker 1: Ball snapped on the near hatch, they throw it to Pacheco, get.

2059
01:54:06,640 --> 01:54:10,880
Speaker 5: To pocket to ten, time, pop to the zone, touchdown,

2060
01:54:11,680 --> 01:54:13,240
Speaker 5: Cansas City.

2061
01:54:13,640 --> 01:54:15,599
Speaker 3: Then the Chiefs have blown it open.

2062
01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:20,320
Speaker 5: A great block by Trey Smith Pachecko on the touchdown reception.

2063
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that right there is from the Chiefs Radio Network,

2064
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2065
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2071
01:54:51,560 --> 01:54:56,120
Speaker 2: from the ti Raq dot Com studios. Kyle, there's always

2072
01:54:56,240 --> 01:54:59,879
Speaker 2: at any given time a ton of bad contracts in sports.

2073
01:55:00,040 --> 01:55:02,680
Speaker 3: See him get traded in the NBA.

2074
01:55:02,720 --> 01:55:07,240
Speaker 2: All of the time as quarterbacks start asking for more

2075
01:55:07,800 --> 01:55:12,880
Speaker 2: player empowerment. Thank you Kirk Cousins, your former teammate, for

2076
01:55:14,040 --> 01:55:17,120
Speaker 2: being the first quarterback to get a fully guaranteed deal.

2077
01:55:17,160 --> 01:55:20,040
Speaker 2: It opened the door for others, and it opened the

2078
01:55:20,080 --> 01:55:23,560
Speaker 2: door for one Deshaun Watson, and I bet the Cleveland

2079
01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:26,600
Speaker 2: Browns would like to walk back through the other side

2080
01:55:26,600 --> 01:55:29,360
Speaker 2: of the door again and do this whole thing over.

2081
01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:35,680
Speaker 2: Because there's mystery around his injury. It feels like teammates

2082
01:55:35,680 --> 01:55:40,240
Speaker 2: are starting to question the decisions that he's making in.

2083
01:55:40,280 --> 01:55:41,320
Speaker 3: Terms of the injury.

2084
01:55:41,840 --> 01:55:44,160
Speaker 2: I'm never one to say what another guy feels in

2085
01:55:44,200 --> 01:55:46,600
Speaker 2: his body, so I have no idea what's going on there.

2086
01:55:47,040 --> 01:55:49,920
Speaker 2: I just do know that when he plays, he doesn't

2087
01:55:49,960 --> 01:55:54,400
Speaker 2: play well. His interceptions today prior to reaggravating his injury

2088
01:55:54,440 --> 01:55:59,120
Speaker 2: were bad interceptions. And the Browns are an interesting team.

2089
01:55:59,200 --> 01:56:02,240
Speaker 2: They've got some thing going in the right direction. They've

2090
01:56:02,280 --> 01:56:05,480
Speaker 2: had some breaks on their side, for sure, but they

2091
01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:07,880
Speaker 2: snuck away with another one, this one a high scoring

2092
01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:08,440
Speaker 2: one today.

2093
01:56:09,120 --> 01:56:11,880
Speaker 3: And look, I'm not saying that PJ.

2094
01:56:12,080 --> 01:56:14,760
Speaker 2: Walker by any stretch is the answer, but the team

2095
01:56:14,800 --> 01:56:17,520
Speaker 2: doesn't look any worse with him out there than when

2096
01:56:17,560 --> 01:56:20,000
Speaker 2: they do with Deshaun Watson. So two hundred and thirty

2097
01:56:20,040 --> 01:56:24,080
Speaker 2: million guaranteed dollars feels like, even though the Browns are

2098
01:56:24,120 --> 01:56:27,040
Speaker 2: in a happy space right now, I think the view

2099
01:56:27,080 --> 01:56:28,840
Speaker 2: from ten thousand feet is pretty bad.

2100
01:56:30,400 --> 01:56:30,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2101
01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:34,920
Speaker 4: I mean, you mentioned it when we talked before the show,

2102
01:56:35,080 --> 01:56:41,320
Speaker 4: just how this is such an incredibly talented roster around

2103
01:56:41,400 --> 01:56:44,200
Speaker 4: to Sean and you know, is this going to be

2104
01:56:44,200 --> 01:56:47,520
Speaker 4: a team that ultimately misses out on their window with

2105
01:56:47,600 --> 01:56:52,600
Speaker 4: this unbelievable defense, because you know there's twenty million in

2106
01:56:52,680 --> 01:56:55,480
Speaker 4: cap space dedicated toward him this year, and I think

2107
01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:59,080
Speaker 4: it jumps to sixty four million next year that they

2108
01:56:59,120 --> 01:57:01,120
Speaker 4: can't get out of. You're not getting out of that

2109
01:57:01,160 --> 01:57:02,160
Speaker 4: sixty four million.

2110
01:57:02,600 --> 01:57:02,920
Speaker 1: Now.

2111
01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:08,480
Speaker 4: With that being said, they've they've saved thirty five million,

2112
01:57:08,520 --> 01:57:10,720
Speaker 4: their second to the forty nine ers right now in

2113
01:57:10,760 --> 01:57:14,440
Speaker 4: cap space at thirty five million, And we talked about

2114
01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:16,400
Speaker 4: the whole reason why they have that thirty five million

2115
01:57:16,440 --> 01:57:18,520
Speaker 4: is because they're trying to roll it over to next

2116
01:57:18,560 --> 01:57:22,320
Speaker 4: year just to save some money when that cap number

2117
01:57:22,440 --> 01:57:26,080
Speaker 4: goes from nineteen million right now to sixty four million

2118
01:57:26,160 --> 01:57:30,320
Speaker 4: next year. And if we had more than nine minutes

2119
01:57:30,400 --> 01:57:32,960
Speaker 4: left on the show, I would love to throw up

2120
01:57:33,040 --> 01:57:37,160
Speaker 4: the argument and have a little friendly debate just to

2121
01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:40,320
Speaker 4: talk both sides of it. I don't know if it's

2122
01:57:40,400 --> 01:57:43,360
Speaker 4: necessarily the worst contract in trade in sports. I feel

2123
01:57:43,400 --> 01:57:45,880
Speaker 4: like we have Deshaun and Russell Wilson, and it would

2124
01:57:45,880 --> 01:57:49,840
Speaker 4: be a very even debate between the two. I think

2125
01:57:49,880 --> 01:57:52,880
Speaker 4: the only trump card that Dashawn is holding right now

2126
01:57:52,920 --> 01:57:57,360
Speaker 4: over the Russell Wilson contract is it's got about half

2127
01:57:57,440 --> 01:58:01,560
Speaker 4: of the guaranteed dollars, with Russell Wilson's contract being only

2128
01:58:01,640 --> 01:58:03,800
Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty four of the two forty two

2129
01:58:03,880 --> 01:58:08,160
Speaker 4: guarantee to where the Cleveland Browns not only traded three

2130
01:58:08,240 --> 01:58:11,400
Speaker 4: first round picks and some change for DeShawn Watson, they

2131
01:58:11,440 --> 01:58:14,760
Speaker 4: gave him two hundred and thirty million, fully guaranteed that

2132
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:16,360
Speaker 4: they cannot get out of.

2133
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Speaker 3: I hear what you're saying.

2134
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Speaker 2: The only reason I would lean into Shawn's direction in

2135
01:58:23,000 --> 01:58:25,200
Speaker 2: addition to the one you just mentioned, which is part

2136
01:58:25,240 --> 01:58:28,520
Speaker 2: of it the guarantee, but it also lean into Shawn's

2137
01:58:28,520 --> 01:58:32,360
Speaker 2: direction because I do feel like the Browns, if they

2138
01:58:32,400 --> 01:58:36,640
Speaker 2: were functional consistently on offense, they would be a really

2139
01:58:36,640 --> 01:58:40,240
Speaker 2: good team, and that would immediately be the best division

2140
01:58:40,280 --> 01:58:43,680
Speaker 2: in football. I'm not sure that it's not already anyway,

2141
01:58:44,120 --> 01:58:49,440
Speaker 2: but if you put functional, consistent offense on that team

2142
01:58:49,960 --> 01:58:53,240
Speaker 2: opposite the man who I think right now is the dpoy,

2143
01:58:53,680 --> 01:58:55,920
Speaker 2: and that's Miles Garrett. And if you saw any of

2144
01:58:55,920 --> 01:58:58,360
Speaker 2: the game today, I know it's hard to get overly

2145
01:58:58,400 --> 01:59:01,320
Speaker 2: excited about a defensive player. And the other team scored

2146
01:59:01,400 --> 01:59:05,240
Speaker 2: thirty eight, but Miles Garrett ruined the game for the Colts.

2147
01:59:05,600 --> 01:59:07,840
Speaker 3: He was absolutely unbelievable.

2148
01:59:08,160 --> 01:59:11,040
Speaker 2: And so if you had consistency on offense, I just

2149
01:59:11,080 --> 01:59:14,200
Speaker 2: think that whole franchise would they'd be a contender.

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Speaker 3: They'd be a contender, Kyle.

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Speaker 1: They would.

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Speaker 4: And you know, if if it wasn't for Miles Garrett

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Speaker 4: out there in that game today, I mean, the Browns

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Speaker 4: score fourteen less points and the Colts score forty one

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Speaker 4: instead of thirty eight because he single handedly set up

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Speaker 4: two of the brown scorers and.

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Speaker 1: Blocked the field goal of the Colts.

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Speaker 4: So certainly I couldn't agree more with the Miles Garrett take.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I know because I've played for that

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Speaker 4: head coach and I know that system gets the most

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Speaker 4: out of the quarterback. So you know, you certainly would

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Speaker 4: like to think that there'd be higher quarterback play from him.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, Brother, can't wait to talk to you about

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Speaker 2: Niners and Vikings tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: We'll do it again next week.