1 00:00:11,697 --> 00:00:14,977 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure 2 00:00:14,977 --> 00:00:17,977 Speaker 1: you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 3 00:00:18,017 --> 00:00:21,457 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Is there a tactical retreat 4 00:00:21,577 --> 00:00:24,777 Speaker 1: underway in Minneapolis for the Trump White House? What happens 5 00:00:24,817 --> 00:00:28,457 Speaker 1: now to the immigration enforcement agenda? Caroline Sunshine is with 6 00:00:28,617 --> 00:00:31,857 Speaker 1: us to talk about this. She was formerly working in 7 00:00:31,897 --> 00:00:35,017 Speaker 1: the Trump White House and the first administration and communications, 8 00:00:35,417 --> 00:00:38,257 Speaker 1: and she's also a former Disney star and now a 9 00:00:38,457 --> 00:00:41,017 Speaker 1: commentator on all things going on there. We'll get to 10 00:00:41,057 --> 00:00:44,377 Speaker 1: the Disney stuff later. Caroline, tell me first of all, 11 00:00:44,417 --> 00:00:46,817 Speaker 1: thank you for being being here. Nice to nice to 12 00:00:46,857 --> 00:00:49,937 Speaker 1: have you on for the first time. What should they 13 00:00:50,017 --> 00:00:54,377 Speaker 1: be doing now? For the messaging was bad by Gnome 14 00:00:54,457 --> 00:00:56,737 Speaker 1: after this whole thing went down. I think that's pretty clear. 15 00:00:56,977 --> 00:00:59,217 Speaker 1: And there's now the finger pointing about someone told me 16 00:00:59,257 --> 00:01:01,857 Speaker 1: to say it or right? Whatever? What do they do now? 17 00:01:01,857 --> 00:01:03,857 Speaker 1: How do they fix this mess to get it focused 18 00:01:03,937 --> 00:01:07,097 Speaker 1: back on the policy of enforcing immigration law. 19 00:01:07,937 --> 00:01:09,977 Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having met. 20 00:01:10,177 --> 00:01:12,817 Speaker 3: Of all, you don't play into the narrative trap that 21 00:01:12,857 --> 00:01:14,297 Speaker 3: democrats in the media. 22 00:01:14,417 --> 00:01:16,217 Speaker 2: Are very clearly laying. 23 00:01:16,897 --> 00:01:20,017 Speaker 3: You know, Alex Pretti's death was a tragedy but it 24 00:01:20,057 --> 00:01:22,577 Speaker 3: was no more of a tragedy than any of the 25 00:01:23,217 --> 00:01:25,097 Speaker 3: thousands of Americans who have. 26 00:01:25,097 --> 00:01:28,017 Speaker 2: Lost their life to excessive use of force by. 27 00:01:27,937 --> 00:01:30,097 Speaker 3: An a legal immigrant, and a lot of them you've 28 00:01:30,097 --> 00:01:33,097 Speaker 3: never heard their names because the media intentionally keeps their 29 00:01:33,177 --> 00:01:35,977 Speaker 3: names out of the media. I thought, my first reaction, 30 00:01:36,137 --> 00:01:38,257 Speaker 3: or one of my first reactions to the news coming 31 00:01:38,257 --> 00:01:40,657 Speaker 3: out of Minneapolis was wow, I can't remember the last 32 00:01:40,737 --> 00:01:43,817 Speaker 3: time the mainstream media cared this much about a white 33 00:01:43,817 --> 00:01:47,857 Speaker 3: guy dying. They never care about white men dying, you know, 34 00:01:47,937 --> 00:01:50,377 Speaker 3: I mean opioid deaths in this country for the longest time, 35 00:01:50,857 --> 00:01:53,377 Speaker 3: with the leading cause of death for men ages, you know, 36 00:01:53,417 --> 00:01:56,017 Speaker 3: eighteen to forty five. We have an epidemic where the 37 00:01:56,057 --> 00:01:59,497 Speaker 3: life span of American men is being shortened by on average, 38 00:01:59,497 --> 00:02:02,377 Speaker 3: you know, a decade. Never cared, never cared about that, 39 00:02:02,697 --> 00:02:05,137 Speaker 3: always looked to demonize white men, whether it was Daniel 40 00:02:05,177 --> 00:02:08,737 Speaker 3: Penny standing up and saving the passenger on that train 41 00:02:08,817 --> 00:02:11,297 Speaker 3: in New York, whether it was Kyle Rittenhouse using. 42 00:02:11,137 --> 00:02:12,257 Speaker 2: His right to self defense. 43 00:02:13,137 --> 00:02:16,177 Speaker 3: So it's just interesting because Alex, you know, his death 44 00:02:16,217 --> 00:02:19,137 Speaker 3: happens to fit. While it is tragic, it fits a 45 00:02:19,137 --> 00:02:20,537 Speaker 3: particular narrative. 46 00:02:20,537 --> 00:02:21,577 Speaker 2: And I said, this going all. 47 00:02:21,457 --> 00:02:25,297 Speaker 3: The way back to when Kilmar Orbrago Garcia was getting 48 00:02:25,337 --> 00:02:28,697 Speaker 3: deported and the left worked so hard to try and 49 00:02:28,737 --> 00:02:30,857 Speaker 3: stop that, And I said, you know this is this 50 00:02:30,897 --> 00:02:32,417 Speaker 3: is tactical because you have to look at it from 51 00:02:32,457 --> 00:02:35,457 Speaker 3: a columns and messaging standpoint. Right. If they're able to 52 00:02:35,457 --> 00:02:38,697 Speaker 3: stop one deportation, then they can stop them all. You know, 53 00:02:38,737 --> 00:02:41,377 Speaker 3: if they can get public sentiment on their side where 54 00:02:41,377 --> 00:02:43,377 Speaker 3: they can just stop one, make you just have one 55 00:02:43,497 --> 00:02:46,857 Speaker 3: moment of a you know, emotional blackmail over something tragic 56 00:02:46,897 --> 00:02:50,617 Speaker 3: that's happened, they can stop at all. And so the 57 00:02:50,617 --> 00:02:52,457 Speaker 3: first thing is to not play into that narrative. And 58 00:02:52,497 --> 00:02:54,297 Speaker 3: the second, I think is the tone that the president 59 00:02:54,697 --> 00:02:59,417 Speaker 3: where he said I want to see a full investigation done. 60 00:02:59,937 --> 00:03:04,017 Speaker 3: His tone has been very appropriate. And I'll tell you 61 00:03:05,457 --> 00:03:08,497 Speaker 3: when I look at what happened with Renee Good and 62 00:03:08,617 --> 00:03:14,097 Speaker 3: Alex Pretty in Innneapolis, my reaction is I wish they 63 00:03:14,097 --> 00:03:19,177 Speaker 3: were still alive. My reaction is not what I watched 64 00:03:19,217 --> 00:03:23,257 Speaker 3: the left do after Charlie Kirk's death was go oh yep, Bie, 65 00:03:23,297 --> 00:03:25,937 Speaker 3: I'm so glad he's dead. I hope people that believe 66 00:03:25,977 --> 00:03:28,737 Speaker 3: the same thing as him die too. I'm really excited 67 00:03:28,777 --> 00:03:34,657 Speaker 3: about it. Look, I think that impeding law enforcement operations 68 00:03:34,817 --> 00:03:40,017 Speaker 3: is a dumb way to die, really do. But I'm 69 00:03:40,057 --> 00:03:42,657 Speaker 3: not excited about it, and I don't want to see 70 00:03:42,697 --> 00:03:45,857 Speaker 3: more liberals that I don't think. I probably agreed with 71 00:03:45,897 --> 00:03:47,777 Speaker 3: Renee Good or Alex Pretti on much if. 72 00:03:47,697 --> 00:03:48,577 Speaker 2: I met him in person. 73 00:03:49,057 --> 00:03:52,497 Speaker 3: But they're my fellow American, they're a fellow countryman, and 74 00:03:52,577 --> 00:03:55,257 Speaker 3: I don't want to see more liberals die dumb deaths 75 00:03:55,337 --> 00:03:56,057 Speaker 3: because they. 76 00:03:55,897 --> 00:03:59,217 Speaker 2: Are buying in to the media narrative. 77 00:03:59,217 --> 00:04:02,937 Speaker 3: That Ice is bad, icer murderers, you know, whatever it is. 78 00:04:02,977 --> 00:04:05,897 Speaker 2: And I know the President doesn't want to see that either. 79 00:04:06,377 --> 00:04:08,897 Speaker 2: And the fact is this, It wasn't. 80 00:04:08,657 --> 00:04:11,497 Speaker 3: A protest that was going going on in Minnesota when 81 00:04:11,497 --> 00:04:14,337 Speaker 3: you really look at it, Alex was not at a protest. 82 00:04:14,617 --> 00:04:16,297 Speaker 2: Alex was in the street. 83 00:04:16,657 --> 00:04:20,537 Speaker 3: He was directing traffic of moving vehicles. Okay, well, is 84 00:04:20,577 --> 00:04:24,337 Speaker 3: he a traffic cop no? Is he a crossing guard? 85 00:04:24,537 --> 00:04:24,617 Speaker 2: No? 86 00:04:25,297 --> 00:04:27,697 Speaker 3: Then why are you in the street directing traffic? That's 87 00:04:27,697 --> 00:04:31,097 Speaker 3: not your job. And that's also not what peacefully protesting 88 00:04:31,417 --> 00:04:33,137 Speaker 3: your government looks like. First of all, if you want 89 00:04:33,137 --> 00:04:36,337 Speaker 3: to peacefully protest your government, write a letter to your senator. 90 00:04:36,617 --> 00:04:40,297 Speaker 3: Ice is a enforcement agency. They are a law enforcement agent. 91 00:04:40,337 --> 00:04:44,377 Speaker 3: They are enforcing the law, which is as current stands 92 00:04:44,377 --> 00:04:47,497 Speaker 3: on the books. Eight US Code thirteen twenty five been 93 00:04:47,537 --> 00:04:50,697 Speaker 3: the same law since President Obama was in office. 94 00:04:50,737 --> 00:04:51,937 Speaker 2: That law has not changed. 95 00:04:52,177 --> 00:04:55,577 Speaker 3: They're enforcing the law. And what Alex was doing, because 96 00:04:55,577 --> 00:04:58,897 Speaker 3: there's been this deliberate use of the word protest that 97 00:04:58,937 --> 00:05:01,297 Speaker 3: he was a protester that was killed he was protesting. 98 00:05:01,897 --> 00:05:04,417 Speaker 3: I don't believe that. I believe what Alex did would 99 00:05:04,457 --> 00:05:07,297 Speaker 3: be the same thing if if you didn't like the 100 00:05:07,297 --> 00:05:11,137 Speaker 3: Iraq war and you didn't support the political reasons for 101 00:05:11,177 --> 00:05:14,177 Speaker 3: the United States engaging in the Middle East. Fair, that's 102 00:05:14,177 --> 00:05:17,137 Speaker 3: your first Amendment right to disagree with your government, to 103 00:05:17,217 --> 00:05:19,177 Speaker 3: protest that, you know what, you don't have the right 104 00:05:19,217 --> 00:05:21,337 Speaker 3: to do. You don't have the right to fly to 105 00:05:21,417 --> 00:05:24,377 Speaker 3: bag Dad and get in the middle of a marine 106 00:05:24,457 --> 00:05:28,137 Speaker 3: convoy or get in the middle of marines going door 107 00:05:28,217 --> 00:05:31,377 Speaker 3: to door, kicking down doors trying to find terrorists and 108 00:05:31,497 --> 00:05:33,577 Speaker 3: exercise your right to protest and say, oh I don't 109 00:05:33,617 --> 00:05:35,377 Speaker 3: like this, let me get my iPhone out and film you. 110 00:05:35,697 --> 00:05:37,017 Speaker 2: That's not the right to protest. 111 00:05:37,297 --> 00:05:41,937 Speaker 3: You're now impeding military operations. That is a soldier's workplace, 112 00:05:42,177 --> 00:05:45,497 Speaker 3: just like that was ICE's workplace. And when you interact 113 00:05:45,537 --> 00:05:49,537 Speaker 3: with soldiers in a combat zone or law enforcement officers 114 00:05:50,497 --> 00:05:52,897 Speaker 3: the way that they're being dealt with in Minneapolis, you 115 00:05:52,937 --> 00:05:55,497 Speaker 3: put all of those soldiers and all of those officers 116 00:05:55,537 --> 00:05:59,057 Speaker 3: on edge way more than they already are, and their 117 00:05:59,057 --> 00:06:01,657 Speaker 3: goal is to survive, their goal is to do their jobs. 118 00:06:02,097 --> 00:06:06,417 Speaker 3: And people really take for granted. I think, I haven't 119 00:06:06,457 --> 00:06:09,417 Speaker 3: served in the military, a lot of admiration for those. 120 00:06:09,297 --> 00:06:10,737 Speaker 2: Who have same, and laylaw enforcement. 121 00:06:11,257 --> 00:06:14,777 Speaker 3: The average American can't comprehend. I think what it feels 122 00:06:14,817 --> 00:06:16,817 Speaker 3: like to be in an environment where twenty four to 123 00:06:16,857 --> 00:06:18,937 Speaker 3: seven you have to keep your head on an absolute 124 00:06:18,977 --> 00:06:21,577 Speaker 3: swivel because you're aware that a three second delay or 125 00:06:21,657 --> 00:06:24,377 Speaker 3: not catching something or not reacting quick enough can result 126 00:06:24,537 --> 00:06:27,417 Speaker 3: in losing your life or the life of you know, 127 00:06:27,457 --> 00:06:30,017 Speaker 3: your best friend who's serving beside you, and that often 128 00:06:30,017 --> 00:06:31,377 Speaker 3: gets lost in these narratives. 129 00:06:31,857 --> 00:06:38,257 Speaker 1: Intentionally, you see all the celebrities now, like Natalie Portman's 130 00:06:38,377 --> 00:06:41,217 Speaker 1: crying about this. It's like the most evil thing ever. 131 00:06:41,537 --> 00:06:45,777 Speaker 1: Tim Walls, the governor, he's not a actor celebrity type, 132 00:06:45,777 --> 00:06:49,817 Speaker 1: but he's unfortunately somebody we know. He says that they're 133 00:06:49,817 --> 00:06:53,897 Speaker 1: going to write a story about what's going on in Minneapolis, 134 00:06:53,937 --> 00:06:56,417 Speaker 1: just like Anne Frank wrote the story of what happened 135 00:06:56,457 --> 00:07:01,497 Speaker 1: to her in the Netherlands. Are these people? Are they deranged? 136 00:07:01,577 --> 00:07:03,737 Speaker 1: Are they delusional? Is it just dishonest? 137 00:07:03,857 --> 00:07:03,937 Speaker 3: Like? 138 00:07:04,017 --> 00:07:07,017 Speaker 1: How do you make sense of the people that are 139 00:07:07,057 --> 00:07:10,537 Speaker 1: crying for what happened in Minneapolis? Who you don't cry 140 00:07:10,577 --> 00:07:13,097 Speaker 1: about terrible things happening in this country day in and 141 00:07:13,177 --> 00:07:15,857 Speaker 1: day out that are the results of policies that they're 142 00:07:15,897 --> 00:07:16,457 Speaker 1: just fine with. 143 00:07:17,657 --> 00:07:20,377 Speaker 3: Oh well, and here you go, right, all these Hollywood celebrities, 144 00:07:20,417 --> 00:07:23,497 Speaker 3: like you said, Natalie Portman, you know, all the like, 145 00:07:24,497 --> 00:07:27,217 Speaker 3: where were they and why weren't they this upset when 146 00:07:27,257 --> 00:07:31,777 Speaker 3: President Obama? You know, they're Hollywood icon, the guy they 147 00:07:31,777 --> 00:07:33,977 Speaker 3: all love, rubbing shoulders with, the guy they all want 148 00:07:33,977 --> 00:07:36,697 Speaker 3: to get a Netflix deal with. Why weren't they upset 149 00:07:36,737 --> 00:07:39,097 Speaker 3: when President Obama was deporting illegal immigrants? 150 00:07:39,697 --> 00:07:40,617 Speaker 2: Why was there a problem? 151 00:07:40,657 --> 00:07:40,817 Speaker 3: Then? 152 00:07:40,977 --> 00:07:42,857 Speaker 2: Oh, it's a problem. It's a problem. 153 00:07:42,897 --> 00:07:46,177 Speaker 3: Now. I'd love to say that they're delusional, and they are, 154 00:07:46,257 --> 00:07:47,497 Speaker 3: but it's intentional. 155 00:07:47,617 --> 00:07:49,897 Speaker 2: Again, they know what they're doing. 156 00:07:50,497 --> 00:07:53,897 Speaker 3: They are performers, they are actors, and what they are 157 00:07:53,937 --> 00:07:55,057 Speaker 3: doing is acting. 158 00:07:56,297 --> 00:07:58,097 Speaker 2: And you know, for all these women in. 159 00:07:57,977 --> 00:08:00,977 Speaker 3: Hollywood who were part of the Me too movement. We 160 00:08:01,057 --> 00:08:04,097 Speaker 3: have to, you know, protect all women. Give me a 161 00:08:04,137 --> 00:08:09,337 Speaker 3: freaking break. Where have you been totally silent as young 162 00:08:09,377 --> 00:08:13,417 Speaker 3: women in oury have been murdered, raped? 163 00:08:14,737 --> 00:08:17,777 Speaker 2: Lake and Riley was on a run in Georgia. 164 00:08:18,097 --> 00:08:22,337 Speaker 3: She was bludgeoned over the head with a rock, sexually assaulted, 165 00:08:23,057 --> 00:08:25,497 Speaker 3: and then killed by an illegal immigrant. Jocelyn nunger A 166 00:08:25,857 --> 00:08:29,057 Speaker 3: was twelve years old. She died at twelve years old 167 00:08:29,257 --> 00:08:32,537 Speaker 3: under a bridge after being raped by two different men 168 00:08:32,577 --> 00:08:34,137 Speaker 3: who should have never been in our country. 169 00:08:34,137 --> 00:08:35,057 Speaker 2: They came in illegally. 170 00:08:35,377 --> 00:08:37,937 Speaker 3: Why was Natalie Portman and all of her tears and 171 00:08:37,977 --> 00:08:40,697 Speaker 3: all of her humanity? Then, oh, that's right. Those lives 172 00:08:40,697 --> 00:08:42,817 Speaker 3: didn't matter to her. Those lives weren't part of the 173 00:08:42,817 --> 00:08:45,697 Speaker 3: performance because those lives didn't fit the political narrative. 174 00:08:46,817 --> 00:08:49,177 Speaker 1: That's all true. We'll come back here in a second 175 00:08:49,697 --> 00:08:52,537 Speaker 1: with the way forward, and also want to ask you 176 00:08:52,577 --> 00:08:54,097 Speaker 1: if you would just tell us a little bit more 177 00:08:54,417 --> 00:08:58,897 Speaker 1: about your your interesting background and how you got into politics. Caroline. 178 00:08:58,937 --> 00:09:01,617 Speaker 1: But our sponsoror is Birch Gold. Look at the price 179 00:09:01,657 --> 00:09:04,497 Speaker 1: of gold, everybody, It's up over five thousand dollars all 180 00:09:04,537 --> 00:09:07,257 Speaker 1: time high, and it keeps going up and up and up. 181 00:09:07,297 --> 00:09:09,297 Speaker 1: If you look at the trend, the trend is your friend. 182 00:09:09,497 --> 00:09:11,857 Speaker 1: Gold is up seven hundred percent in the last twenty years. 183 00:09:11,897 --> 00:09:14,257 Speaker 1: There's good reason for this. The money printing is not 184 00:09:14,297 --> 00:09:18,817 Speaker 1: going to stop. And bitcoin is also not the safe 185 00:09:18,817 --> 00:09:21,097 Speaker 1: haven store of wealth that so many seem to think 186 00:09:21,097 --> 00:09:22,617 Speaker 1: it would be. Look at the price of bitcoin the 187 00:09:22,697 --> 00:09:25,977 Speaker 1: last year. So gold makes sense and Birch Gold Group 188 00:09:26,017 --> 00:09:28,657 Speaker 1: can help you roll an existing IRA or four oh 189 00:09:28,697 --> 00:09:30,977 Speaker 1: one k for example, into an IRA and gold, or 190 00:09:30,977 --> 00:09:32,297 Speaker 1: you can do what I just did. I just got 191 00:09:32,377 --> 00:09:34,297 Speaker 1: Birch Gold to deliver more gold in my house a 192 00:09:34,297 --> 00:09:38,177 Speaker 1: couple of days ago, meaning just actual physical gold, bullion, 193 00:09:38,377 --> 00:09:41,457 Speaker 1: gold coins. Birch Gold can make it happen for you. 194 00:09:41,897 --> 00:09:44,497 Speaker 1: Text my name Buck to ninety eight ninety eight ninety 195 00:09:44,497 --> 00:09:47,177 Speaker 1: eight to claim your eligibility today. Gold makes sense. I'm 196 00:09:47,177 --> 00:09:50,537 Speaker 1: a gold guy. Text Buck to ninety eight ninety eight 197 00:09:50,657 --> 00:09:55,737 Speaker 1: ninety eight Birch Gold Group. Caroline. If you were to 198 00:09:55,937 --> 00:10:03,097 Speaker 1: see what's going on with particularly young white women in 199 00:10:03,137 --> 00:10:07,817 Speaker 1: this country who are showing up at these protests and 200 00:10:08,657 --> 00:10:11,177 Speaker 1: they're screaming in the faces of the it seems like 201 00:10:11,217 --> 00:10:15,777 Speaker 1: something's really wrong with them, and they're the demographic that 202 00:10:15,897 --> 00:10:20,137 Speaker 1: specifically voted more heavily for Kammawa the last time around 203 00:10:20,177 --> 00:10:21,977 Speaker 1: than even they did when they were voting for Biden 204 00:10:22,377 --> 00:10:26,417 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. What's happened, Like, what's happened is I'm 205 00:10:26,417 --> 00:10:28,377 Speaker 1: not talking about the conservative women are watching this, because 206 00:10:28,377 --> 00:10:30,577 Speaker 1: obviously they're not in this category. What has happened to 207 00:10:30,617 --> 00:10:32,817 Speaker 1: these liberal white women who have completely lost their minds? 208 00:10:32,857 --> 00:10:33,817 Speaker 1: Where did this come from? 209 00:10:34,537 --> 00:10:38,857 Speaker 3: Yeah, They're being completely emotionally manipulated to the point that 210 00:10:38,897 --> 00:10:40,857 Speaker 3: they're risking their lives. That's where I say, when you 211 00:10:40,937 --> 00:10:45,177 Speaker 3: look at the death of Renee Good, I take. 212 00:10:45,017 --> 00:10:48,137 Speaker 2: No pleasure in that death. I don't agree with liberal women, 213 00:10:48,457 --> 00:10:49,377 Speaker 2: but I don't want. 214 00:10:49,177 --> 00:10:53,417 Speaker 3: To see more of them die because their own side 215 00:10:53,777 --> 00:10:57,537 Speaker 3: has no regard for their life and brainwashes them to 216 00:10:57,657 --> 00:11:01,497 Speaker 3: risk their life in ways that are completely inappropriate and 217 00:11:01,577 --> 00:11:04,457 Speaker 3: ultimately can result in death. I mean, I'm sure you've 218 00:11:04,497 --> 00:11:07,577 Speaker 3: seen the same video I've seen of Renee Good. The 219 00:11:07,737 --> 00:11:11,577 Speaker 3: look in her eyes as she is behind the wheel 220 00:11:11,577 --> 00:11:14,977 Speaker 3: of that vehicle and then ramming it into a federal officer, 221 00:11:15,017 --> 00:11:17,937 Speaker 3: it's almost like it's almost like it wasn't real life. 222 00:11:17,977 --> 00:11:20,377 Speaker 3: To her like she was detached from it or something, 223 00:11:20,457 --> 00:11:23,217 Speaker 3: or she thought she was the hero in the story. 224 00:11:23,417 --> 00:11:28,057 Speaker 3: You know, these women are being emotionally manipulated by culture. 225 00:11:28,257 --> 00:11:34,257 Speaker 3: Alex Earle is one of the biggest female content influencers 226 00:11:35,097 --> 00:11:38,057 Speaker 3: in the world, and she just posted about the death 227 00:11:38,057 --> 00:11:42,217 Speaker 3: of Alex Pretty in Minneapolis to her millions of young 228 00:11:42,457 --> 00:11:47,577 Speaker 3: female followers, of course, with zero context for what actually happens. 229 00:11:47,577 --> 00:11:50,417 Speaker 3: So all these sea is, these these fragments, all these 230 00:11:50,457 --> 00:11:54,137 Speaker 3: sea are these images deliberately placed in the media, you know, 231 00:11:54,617 --> 00:11:58,097 Speaker 3: showing Ice looking like the bad guys that they aren't, 232 00:11:58,617 --> 00:12:01,897 Speaker 3: and the media never focuses on the fact that Ice 233 00:12:01,977 --> 00:12:09,137 Speaker 3: is actually really the core backbone force that are handling 234 00:12:09,537 --> 00:12:16,657 Speaker 3: deporting again the rapists, the criminals, the wife beaters who 235 00:12:16,697 --> 00:12:19,937 Speaker 3: have who have killed and abused one too many American women. 236 00:12:19,977 --> 00:12:22,817 Speaker 3: But that doesn't even enter the information ecosystem of this 237 00:12:22,897 --> 00:12:25,777 Speaker 3: liberal these liberal women. And then what it does is 238 00:12:25,777 --> 00:12:29,257 Speaker 3: it drives the genders further away. Okay, right, because you 239 00:12:29,297 --> 00:12:32,497 Speaker 3: have these women who are now so liberal that they 240 00:12:32,497 --> 00:12:34,257 Speaker 3: don't want to date the men. The men are so 241 00:12:34,377 --> 00:12:36,777 Speaker 3: conservative they don't want to date the women. And so 242 00:12:37,137 --> 00:12:39,137 Speaker 3: these women, these liberal women are kind of living in 243 00:12:39,177 --> 00:12:43,057 Speaker 3: this bubble where they're not getting any other kind of perspective, 244 00:12:43,297 --> 00:12:45,777 Speaker 3: and most importantly, they don't have anything in their lives. 245 00:12:45,817 --> 00:12:49,857 Speaker 3: I believe that grounds them because for Renee Good to 246 00:12:49,937 --> 00:12:53,177 Speaker 3: be impeding law enforcement operations on what was it a 247 00:12:53,177 --> 00:12:56,137 Speaker 3: Wednesday at two pm, she's a mother of young children. 248 00:12:56,617 --> 00:12:58,697 Speaker 3: No disrespect to the dead, but you have to be 249 00:12:58,777 --> 00:13:01,337 Speaker 3: mentally ill to do something like that. And I say 250 00:13:01,377 --> 00:13:04,057 Speaker 3: that out of a place of, like I said, genuine concern. 251 00:13:04,337 --> 00:13:07,097 Speaker 3: It's a dumb way to die to block ice operations, 252 00:13:07,257 --> 00:13:08,657 Speaker 3: just like it would be a dumb way to die 253 00:13:08,697 --> 00:13:10,977 Speaker 3: to show it to a combat zone and say I'd 254 00:13:10,977 --> 00:13:13,657 Speaker 3: like to use my first Amendment right right now. It's dumb, 255 00:13:14,457 --> 00:13:16,817 Speaker 3: but I take no pleasure in it. And I hope 256 00:13:16,817 --> 00:13:20,697 Speaker 3: that the liberal media ecosystem realizes what they are doing 257 00:13:20,937 --> 00:13:22,497 Speaker 3: to their own listeners and to their. 258 00:13:22,417 --> 00:13:26,417 Speaker 1: Own followers before we wrap up today, because we've actually 259 00:13:26,457 --> 00:13:29,257 Speaker 1: covered a lot of ground here, and you know, moved 260 00:13:29,257 --> 00:13:31,977 Speaker 1: through this very quickly. But tell us how you got 261 00:13:31,977 --> 00:13:34,457 Speaker 1: into politics. I've seen you on Fox, That's how we 262 00:13:34,497 --> 00:13:37,057 Speaker 1: got you here. Did a great job on Fox. So 263 00:13:37,497 --> 00:13:39,337 Speaker 1: I know you worked in the Trump White House, But 264 00:13:39,417 --> 00:13:40,817 Speaker 1: how'd you end up in the trump White House. 265 00:13:42,417 --> 00:13:46,137 Speaker 3: I worked on the Disney Channel on a television series 266 00:13:46,217 --> 00:13:49,897 Speaker 3: called Shake It Up. That everybody has their American dream, 267 00:13:49,937 --> 00:13:52,697 Speaker 3: Everybody has their childhood dream, and I got to live mine, 268 00:13:52,737 --> 00:13:55,937 Speaker 3: which was to perform on the Disney Channel. I played 269 00:13:55,937 --> 00:13:59,057 Speaker 3: a character on the series that was a Russian foreign 270 00:13:59,097 --> 00:14:01,137 Speaker 3: exchange student, so I always joke that then when I 271 00:14:01,177 --> 00:14:02,657 Speaker 3: went to work for President Trump, you know. 272 00:14:03,017 --> 00:14:05,257 Speaker 2: I'm the closest thing there ever was to Russian collusion. 273 00:14:06,257 --> 00:14:09,417 Speaker 3: But I left Hollywood. I was an intern in President 274 00:14:09,417 --> 00:14:11,577 Speaker 3: Trump's White House. His message when he came down the 275 00:14:11,697 --> 00:14:15,257 Speaker 3: escalator in twenty fifteen really resonated with me. I was 276 00:14:15,377 --> 00:14:17,737 Speaker 3: mad at the political class in this country that I 277 00:14:17,777 --> 00:14:22,297 Speaker 3: had felt had failed us through their own selfish and 278 00:14:22,337 --> 00:14:27,057 Speaker 3: stupid leadership. And I love my country and I wanted 279 00:14:27,097 --> 00:14:29,297 Speaker 3: to do something about it. And so I come from 280 00:14:29,497 --> 00:14:32,457 Speaker 3: very liberal Hollywood and I left to serve in President 281 00:14:32,457 --> 00:14:38,337 Speaker 3: Trump's White House. I was canceled, experienced the full brunt 282 00:14:38,417 --> 00:14:41,977 Speaker 3: of that for being canceled for my political opinions, and 283 00:14:42,017 --> 00:14:44,537 Speaker 3: I learned so much going through that that made me 284 00:14:44,617 --> 00:14:51,497 Speaker 3: want to speak up more rather than stay silent. And 285 00:14:51,577 --> 00:14:53,697 Speaker 3: I love that. One of the great things about having 286 00:14:53,697 --> 00:14:55,497 Speaker 3: President Trump back in the White House now, is it 287 00:14:55,537 --> 00:14:58,297 Speaker 3: finally feels like some of the tide of cancel culture 288 00:14:58,497 --> 00:15:02,057 Speaker 3: has has turned and you watch certain brands feel like 289 00:15:02,097 --> 00:15:05,537 Speaker 3: they can't get away with what they got away with before. 290 00:15:05,617 --> 00:15:06,977 Speaker 2: And so President Trump's you know. 291 00:15:07,257 --> 00:15:09,737 Speaker 3: Win wasn't just a political win, it was a cultural 292 00:15:09,737 --> 00:15:11,337 Speaker 3: win to and I really want to make sure that 293 00:15:11,337 --> 00:15:14,777 Speaker 3: those conservatives again, I came from the cultural space where 294 00:15:14,977 --> 00:15:18,097 Speaker 3: it's a very liberal industry. The left has held that 295 00:15:18,137 --> 00:15:20,537 Speaker 3: ground for a long time. I'd love to see conservatives 296 00:15:20,617 --> 00:15:25,057 Speaker 3: keep making grounds and gains in culture. We're half the country, 297 00:15:25,337 --> 00:15:28,177 Speaker 3: you know, and it's time that that's reflected in our culture. 298 00:15:28,697 --> 00:15:32,377 Speaker 1: What is your favorite Disney cartoon of all time? 299 00:15:33,417 --> 00:15:35,737 Speaker 2: Cartoons? So like not not live action? 300 00:15:35,897 --> 00:15:38,537 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, yeah, because that's like so much there. 301 00:15:38,537 --> 00:15:40,417 Speaker 1: I'm trying to narrow it down aload it for you here, 302 00:15:40,577 --> 00:15:43,097 Speaker 1: because you know, we got obviously Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, 303 00:15:43,137 --> 00:15:45,737 Speaker 1: and then everything you know since and in between. 304 00:15:46,777 --> 00:15:49,137 Speaker 3: Yeah, and like okay, so no live action movies and 305 00:15:49,137 --> 00:15:50,817 Speaker 3: like do you count Pixar or do you want to. 306 00:15:50,817 --> 00:15:52,737 Speaker 1: Be like the you can do you can do Pixar, 307 00:15:52,857 --> 00:15:54,577 Speaker 1: just no live action. We'll just limit it to no 308 00:15:54,657 --> 00:15:55,137 Speaker 1: live action. 309 00:15:55,977 --> 00:15:57,537 Speaker 2: Okay, Oh that's tough. 310 00:15:57,577 --> 00:15:59,897 Speaker 1: Because I also don't even remember all the Disney movies 311 00:15:59,937 --> 00:16:02,737 Speaker 1: that are Disney, whereas like the Disney cartoons, I always 312 00:16:02,737 --> 00:16:03,697 Speaker 1: know it's a Disney cartoon. 313 00:16:04,057 --> 00:16:05,057 Speaker 3: What's your favorite one. 314 00:16:05,097 --> 00:16:06,737 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of mine, just because. 315 00:16:06,937 --> 00:16:08,737 Speaker 1: Mine is a little bit off the beaten path. I 316 00:16:08,737 --> 00:16:12,817 Speaker 1: mean the I do think The Lion King, The Lion King, 317 00:16:12,857 --> 00:16:15,097 Speaker 1: Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin were kind of like 318 00:16:15,297 --> 00:16:21,337 Speaker 1: peak Disney cultural influence for the cartoon stuff. But I 319 00:16:21,377 --> 00:16:25,217 Speaker 1: always love The Sword and the Stone and Archimedes the Owl. 320 00:16:25,257 --> 00:16:29,337 Speaker 1: When I was a kid, I watched that a million times. 321 00:16:29,457 --> 00:16:32,017 Speaker 1: I know every scene in that movie. I know who 322 00:16:32,177 --> 00:16:34,017 Speaker 1: what what? Like, I can do all like, I know 323 00:16:34,137 --> 00:16:37,657 Speaker 1: all of it. So yeah, I actually I actually want 324 00:16:37,657 --> 00:16:39,697 Speaker 1: a pet owl so I can name him Archimedes, like 325 00:16:39,737 --> 00:16:40,697 Speaker 1: I'm a weird guy. 326 00:16:40,777 --> 00:16:43,897 Speaker 3: But that's that's where you should get what's stopping you? 327 00:16:43,897 --> 00:16:45,057 Speaker 2: You should that's pretty cool. 328 00:16:45,697 --> 00:16:49,097 Speaker 1: Technically it's illegal, Yes, the problem is you're not allowed 329 00:16:49,137 --> 00:16:51,057 Speaker 1: to have a pet owl. But yeah, you can't have 330 00:16:51,137 --> 00:16:53,577 Speaker 1: an owl. There it's a bird of they're considered a 331 00:16:53,577 --> 00:16:56,097 Speaker 1: bird of pread. I've looked into this. Obviously considered a 332 00:16:56,097 --> 00:16:59,217 Speaker 1: bird of play. The problem is, imagine this, if you 333 00:16:59,297 --> 00:17:01,697 Speaker 1: had a pet owl, you would have to feed it 334 00:17:01,777 --> 00:17:04,737 Speaker 1: with it and and they eat essentially like mice and 335 00:17:04,777 --> 00:17:07,977 Speaker 1: things like that, and then you have like mice bones 336 00:17:08,017 --> 00:17:11,897 Speaker 1: and carcasses that pile up under wherever the owl. So 337 00:17:11,937 --> 00:17:14,177 Speaker 1: it's like messy. It's not good. It's not a good 338 00:17:14,217 --> 00:17:16,217 Speaker 1: thing to have in your house. You have like little 339 00:17:16,257 --> 00:17:18,937 Speaker 1: mouse skeletons piling up in the corner. It's not good. 340 00:17:19,697 --> 00:17:20,657 Speaker 2: And now I feel stupid. 341 00:17:20,657 --> 00:17:21,937 Speaker 3: I'm like, I feel like that's like saying, like, why 342 00:17:21,937 --> 00:17:23,097 Speaker 3: don't we have a pet bald eagle. 343 00:17:23,177 --> 00:17:25,497 Speaker 2: It's like, well, Caroline, because that's no. 344 00:17:25,697 --> 00:17:29,017 Speaker 1: I mean an owl. There is so in Florida, since 345 00:17:29,057 --> 00:17:32,457 Speaker 1: you're since we're on this topic, in Florida, you can 346 00:17:32,537 --> 00:17:35,697 Speaker 1: get an exotic animal license again because I've looked into 347 00:17:35,697 --> 00:17:37,337 Speaker 1: this and I believe that an owl would be covered 348 00:17:37,377 --> 00:17:39,977 Speaker 1: under a class three. Yeah, you can get a whole 349 00:17:40,017 --> 00:17:42,257 Speaker 1: bunch of different So there's like three different classes. Class 350 00:17:42,297 --> 00:17:44,737 Speaker 1: one is like a like a lion, and like you 351 00:17:44,777 --> 00:17:47,137 Speaker 1: need a special you know, you need to have like 352 00:17:47,177 --> 00:17:49,217 Speaker 1: a preserve for that. And they can't just like get 353 00:17:49,217 --> 00:17:51,697 Speaker 1: a pet line. But you can get like sort of 354 00:17:51,737 --> 00:17:54,737 Speaker 1: a different kinds of snakes and things like that. I 355 00:17:54,737 --> 00:17:56,657 Speaker 1: think you can get a skunk with a class three. 356 00:17:56,857 --> 00:17:58,697 Speaker 1: You might be able to get. There's a small owl 357 00:17:58,737 --> 00:18:00,857 Speaker 1: I forget. I think it's a tawny owl that might 358 00:18:00,897 --> 00:18:03,537 Speaker 1: be called a tawny owl something like that that you 359 00:18:03,617 --> 00:18:06,217 Speaker 1: might be able to get. But yeah, they have big talons. 360 00:18:06,577 --> 00:18:08,737 Speaker 1: They're not as cute as Archimedes and Sword in the Stone. 361 00:18:08,777 --> 00:18:10,697 Speaker 1: That's the problem, you know. And they don't talk, which 362 00:18:10,777 --> 00:18:13,217 Speaker 1: Archimedes does, which I remember very well. So, now that 363 00:18:13,217 --> 00:18:14,777 Speaker 1: I've given you a lot of time to think this 364 00:18:14,817 --> 00:18:19,297 Speaker 1: one through, your best Disney as a Disney alumna, yourself, 365 00:18:19,937 --> 00:18:21,777 Speaker 1: your favorite Disney cartoon. 366 00:18:22,577 --> 00:18:26,137 Speaker 3: Growing up, I loved The Little Mermaid, and then I 367 00:18:26,177 --> 00:18:29,377 Speaker 3: also loved Oh because I love the ocean. But I 368 00:18:29,377 --> 00:18:31,337 Speaker 3: mean I would watch The Little Mermaid to the point 369 00:18:31,337 --> 00:18:34,737 Speaker 3: that I thought I could become a mermaid. And that's 370 00:18:34,777 --> 00:18:37,657 Speaker 3: also one of the biggest reasons I'm against children having 371 00:18:37,737 --> 00:18:40,017 Speaker 3: any right to decide if they're like a boy or 372 00:18:40,057 --> 00:18:42,217 Speaker 3: a girl or need a transition. It's because, like, at 373 00:18:42,217 --> 00:18:45,497 Speaker 3: eight years old, I genuinely believed that I could be 374 00:18:45,657 --> 00:18:49,217 Speaker 3: a mermaid, because your faculties just aren't developed at like 375 00:18:49,617 --> 00:18:52,297 Speaker 3: eight years old, you know, so I genuinely thought, well, 376 00:18:52,297 --> 00:18:54,337 Speaker 3: if I play the pool enough, like I'll grow grow 377 00:18:54,457 --> 00:18:56,537 Speaker 3: a tail, you know, because I loved watching Little Mermaid. 378 00:18:56,697 --> 00:18:58,177 Speaker 3: Doesn't really work like that, so you got to be 379 00:18:58,177 --> 00:19:01,257 Speaker 3: more protective of kids. But Disney used to make so 380 00:19:01,337 --> 00:19:03,657 Speaker 3: much great content. I loved growing up on that content. 381 00:19:04,177 --> 00:19:06,417 Speaker 3: I hate a lot of what it's become because I 382 00:19:06,417 --> 00:19:08,777 Speaker 3: think when it was at its best, like even your 383 00:19:08,937 --> 00:19:10,057 Speaker 3: reference was so niche. 384 00:19:10,177 --> 00:19:12,377 Speaker 2: I love that. I think when it was at its best, before. 385 00:19:12,097 --> 00:19:14,977 Speaker 3: A lot of the woke content completely infiltrated it, it 386 00:19:15,057 --> 00:19:18,017 Speaker 3: was so pure, like it was like. 387 00:19:18,097 --> 00:19:21,817 Speaker 1: Childhood I grew. I grew up watching Disney cartoons as 388 00:19:21,817 --> 00:19:24,177 Speaker 1: a kid, so I really was. And even movies like 389 00:19:24,217 --> 00:19:26,537 Speaker 1: Old Yeller, which I think no one remembers Old Yeller 390 00:19:26,857 --> 00:19:30,017 Speaker 1: that that I still I still get, like choked up. 391 00:19:30,697 --> 00:19:34,377 Speaker 3: The Lion King makes me choke up when I've just 392 00:19:34,457 --> 00:19:37,297 Speaker 3: recently watched the live action version of The Lion King 393 00:19:37,377 --> 00:19:41,817 Speaker 3: and like there's something about Mufasa, you know, oh yeah, 394 00:19:42,217 --> 00:19:44,057 Speaker 3: giving his life for a son that I think, like 395 00:19:44,577 --> 00:19:45,657 Speaker 3: will always get you. 396 00:19:45,737 --> 00:19:46,897 Speaker 2: It makes me tear up up. 397 00:19:47,177 --> 00:19:50,257 Speaker 1: Yeah, great great content when they're not doing the like 398 00:19:50,377 --> 00:19:53,377 Speaker 1: woke trying to training your kids stuff, which unfortunately in 399 00:19:53,417 --> 00:19:56,097 Speaker 1: recent years they've done a lot of me right, It's like. 400 00:19:56,057 --> 00:19:58,657 Speaker 2: I miss all of the they had such a good way. 401 00:19:58,777 --> 00:20:01,537 Speaker 3: Back during that generation of content of figuring out how 402 00:20:01,577 --> 00:20:04,097 Speaker 3: to like kind of impart values and lessons to you 403 00:20:04,177 --> 00:20:06,097 Speaker 3: and the kind of sneaky like put the spinach in 404 00:20:06,137 --> 00:20:07,257 Speaker 3: the spaghetti. 405 00:20:06,737 --> 00:20:07,617 Speaker 2: Sauce kind of way. 406 00:20:08,857 --> 00:20:10,777 Speaker 3: And it's a it's a shame for the company and 407 00:20:10,857 --> 00:20:13,337 Speaker 3: for our culture that they've moved away from that. 408 00:20:13,777 --> 00:20:15,857 Speaker 2: We got to get that back or make it better. 409 00:20:16,697 --> 00:20:19,137 Speaker 1: Absolutely. Where can people go to follow your content? Check 410 00:20:19,177 --> 00:20:19,577 Speaker 1: things out? 411 00:20:20,577 --> 00:20:23,697 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you for watching and for having me. You 412 00:20:23,737 --> 00:20:26,537 Speaker 3: can follow me on x which is Sea Sunshine, and 413 00:20:26,617 --> 00:20:30,657 Speaker 3: then you can follow me on Instagram Caroline Sunshine And 414 00:20:31,217 --> 00:20:34,377 Speaker 3: I'm experimenting with TikTok, so I'll keep you posted on 415 00:20:34,417 --> 00:20:35,017 Speaker 3: how that goes. 416 00:20:35,897 --> 00:20:37,937 Speaker 1: All right, thanks for being here. Good to see you. 417 00:20:38,257 --> 00:20:39,137 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.