WEBVTT - Ep. 116 — Wakanda Forever 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:23.920 Hey, hey, Hey, it's me Tiffany, Hi and Mandy and we. 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:32.800 Are tired and this is brand Ambition and she's tired. 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:34.440 Brown Ambition needs a nap. 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:42.520 I've got two words. I think it's six syllables. Wakanda forever? 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:44.680 Did you see it? 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:47.400 I did? Did you see it? God? Oh yeah? 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:50.760 I have my tickets like a month ago. It was phenomenal. 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:53.440 If you're listening, I mean we're talking about it. You 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:56.800 had the whole weekend to get your stuff together. You 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:59.160 really had longer than that. They've been talking about it forever. 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:01.920 So if you don't want to hear spoilers, oh well, 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:05.120 you you know, I feel like the Black delegation. I 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:08.679 checked in and they said that as of Monday evening 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:15.600 not twelve pm Eastern Standard time, then we are well 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:18.720 within our rights to discuss the full movie, which is happening. 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:22.640 Agreed, Yes, so let's talk about it. So did you 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:24.440 go with with Husbye? 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:27.040 I took Husbye. He gets to come on all my adventures. 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:29.600 I just I just buy tickets and send him calendar invites. 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:31.920 That's what I do. He's like, yeah, where are we going? 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:32.880 Yeah? 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:34.640 He actually loved it. 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:40.240 Really because everybody was like eh, it was all right. 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:42.319 I couldn't believe it. I looked at him like, are 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:45.440 you kidding me? And he was like he's like, no, no, 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:48.200 you know what. He well, first of all, one, he's 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:50.040 really into comics, like since he was a kid. He 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:52.320 watches the cartoons. He reads it like you know. So 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:54.720 he was like it was good. But he's like, I 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:57.280 guess all the hype pipe hype pipe pipe, I don't know. 0:01:57.560 --> 0:01:59.480 And I was just like, are you kidding me? So 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:01.520 he was like he didn't hate it, but he wasn't 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:04.520 like like blown over the way everybody else was. 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:06.560 But I was like, what, he's a comic book fan. 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:09.799 So has he read the actual comics. 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:11.120 Some of them? I don't know if he's read the 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:13.040 Black Panther comics, but he's. 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:14.799 Definitely what I meant, yeah, the Black Panther ones because 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:16.480 they are a little bit different than the movie. 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:21.040 I heard, Yes, probably, but whatever. I was like, like, 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:22.240 as soon as the end of it, he was like, 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:23.919 all right, that was pretty cool. I looked at him like, 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:26.240 are you crazy? Like my life is no longer the same. 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:27.839 I belong to Wakanda now. 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:29.440 I mean, it's fine to have an opinion. 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:30.040 I guess. 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:32.200 I guess, but like, can he just be quiet about 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:34.400 it because we need to keeek out of it? 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:35.280 Did you? 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:36.960 First of all, he didn't notice that because I knew 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:38.520 he wasn't going to get dressed up. So I wore 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:40.600 all black And it wasn't until we got home that 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:42.080 he looked at me. He's like, I just feel like 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:43.960 what you have on? He was like, I can't with you. 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:46.840 I'm like whatever, dude, Like I'm in it. Okay, what 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:47.440 did you wait? 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:49.120 What did you wear? Did you wear like a full on? 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:51.600 No, I wore all black. I just wore like, you know, 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:55.040 black black shoes, ugs. I wore black jeans, black sweater. 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:58.000 I had black beret, my black trench coat. I don't 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:00.360 know how he didn't notice, but I was there extra 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:01.400 black you. 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:05.320 Want, like literal black panther, Yeah, beret. I did. 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:07.200 Actually I had a but right like, my sister got 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:09.480 me some little like hat last year for Christmas. And 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:11.280 it's a cute little bereat, but it had a little 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:13.200 fuzzy ball in the middle, so you know, it's not 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:15.200 as militant as I would like, but close enough. 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:16.880 Just to like soften it a little bit. So no 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:20.200 one like whispers to the manager, see something, say something. 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:22.720 But you know, I went to go see it in 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:28.400 Super Black Newark. Surprisingly, people were quiet during the film. 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:31.400 I was really expecting a lot of you know, I 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:35.480 don't know, chatting, but yeah, it was full. But you know, 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:38.160 I just was expecting because I was nervous about that. 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:40.360 I was like, ugh, opening weekend. I really don't want 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:44.280 to hear everybody's like mouth And no, we went on Monday. No, No, 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:45.160 we didn't go Monday. 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:47.880 When did we go? I think we went on No, 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:49.040 we did. We went on Monday. 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:51.960 And so yeah, I loved it and I was like, 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:53.640 I have to go back to see it again. And 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:56.800 my life has forever changed. I want to be a 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:59.680 citizen of Wakanda. I am ready for my day glow 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:00.520 lip tattoo. 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:04.400 Yeah, it's it's everything. I mean, let's just talk highlights. So, 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:06.840 I mean, it's a great movie. It's a great action movie. 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:10.680 But there's so layers, just layer. I mean, I've never 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:12.880 left an action movie with a tear of my eye, 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:15.720 Like when a little boy on the basketball court looks 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:19.160 up and sees a king from Africa and his badass 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:23.760 good sister, scientist's sister and their spaceship. I'm like, God, 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:27.240 I mean that movie just did so much for women women. 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:29.520 I mean it was so female centric. I mean, I 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:32.840 I've seen the posters. I knew it how Lupza, I 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:36.800 knew it had Angela Bassett, but I didn't know just 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:41.279 how central a role the women in this movie made were. Yeah, 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:44.599 it was amazing and there wasn't It felt like every 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:46.160 woman in the movie had a juicy role. 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:47.360 You know. 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:50.240 What I love is that the is it the dope 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:55.000 don't get me saying around, but the private guard to 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:55.440 the King. 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:59.120 What I loved is that one. They were so fierce 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:00.640 and just a maze easy. 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:04.200 And what I also love is that they weren't overly 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:07.520 sexualized their outfits like ruths I forget the woman's name 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:11.839 who like made like the costumes that she said she 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:14.840 wanted to make them obviously like they're women and she 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:17.320 wanted to acknowledge that, but she didn't want to pander 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:20.279 and make it super like booby busty booty. 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:20.599 You know. 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:23.360 Yeah, I mean I thought they were all like beautiful, 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:26.920 but androgynosts like it, like, it wasn't about their sexuality, 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:29.240 it was about their power. Yeah, you know, like it's 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:31.839 so often like they say, oh, we have a strong 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.600 female you know, superhero in this movie, but they're always 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:37.440 like using their sex appeal to like trick people into 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:39.559 giving them what they want or to beat the bad guys. 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:41.400 And it really just felt like, no, they're just straight 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:44.719 up kicking ass and that is why, Like, that's what 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:47.400 it's about. This armor is there for a purpose, you know, 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:50.960 to protect them, not to show off your body their bodies. 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:54.640 And I just love how the default was of course 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:56.280 the women are strong and that they play in a 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:59.520 huge and hugely important role. There wasn't this like whoa 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:02.600 women are strong such a surprise. It was like this 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:05.320 is a well established known fact, you know what I mean, 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:08.039 Like it was I just loved it. And I love 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:12.280 the fact, yes, finally for women who are chocolate to 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:15.760 be included, like and not like oh we've got that one, 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:18.880 like we've got Gabrielle Union that's as dark as we go. 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:22.720 It was so nice to see a range of browns 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:25.800 and that, you know, because I honestly hardly ever see 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:29.000 a woman in my complexion playing any sort of leading anything, 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:31.800 you know, in a movie, let alone multiple women. I 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:35.120 was like, oh mg, all of this dark chocolate in 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:36.840 one movie, I die. 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:38.039 I die. 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:42.400 I'm gonna let you speak on that because I'm feeling it, 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:45.480 but I also just want to shut up and listen 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.400 because you know, it was just I noticed it. So 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:50.280 I'm just I can only imagine what it must mean 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:52.440 like for people who are yeah, darker skin and you 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:54.200 just don't see yourself and if you do, it's the 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:58.520 only one. Yeah, and just oh, all right. 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:02.400 And then the diaspora presentation, like so there were Africans, 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:07.080 there were West Indians, there were African Americans. They really 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:11.160 tapped into that diaspora to play different roles, you know, 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:15.920 and which was really amazing, like to see like, oh, 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:18.200 like Lupita is African, and the woman that played a 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:21.320 Koye Ko Koye, she was African, Yes. 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:23.920 But then also Baku, the. 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:29.760 General or the king from the northern tribe, the Ape tribe, 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:33.880 he was I believe West Indian. And then Chadwick Boseman 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:37.720 is I believe the African American. And of course Angela 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:40.840 Bassat is African American. I think Zuri his sister, I 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:45.960 believe she is African by way of by way of 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:48.280 the United Kingdom. I think and that guy who played 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:50.640 get Out is from like the UK or whatever, but 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:52.640 he's he's his background is African. 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:54.800 It just I just was like I can't with all 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:56.600 this awesome things. Oh my gosh. 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:00.400 It was overload of like and then the fact that 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:02.520 I just love them Michael B. Jordan first of all, 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:06.480 Newark brick city, stand up born and raised Michael B. Jordan, 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:09.280 like he literally came to Newark to do like a 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:13.280 talk like during opening weekend, and he's from Newark and 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:17.040 just to like have like this kid from Newark who 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:20.280 grew up here like be killing it on the screen. 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:25.000 And then this thirty one year old director, I mean, hello, Ryan. 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:27.520 I just it was just too much, too much in 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:31.360 the fact that it's like broken so many records. It's 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:37.880 just we're entering into this like black brown love fest renaissance. 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:40.400 I hope so we are. 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:43.160 I hope what's happening because you know, everyone's making like 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:45.760 it's really exciting that we have all, like, of course, 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:48.280 a movie where it's just it's not just about it's 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:50.320 not just a movie with black actors, but about the 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:52.880 black experience and like every shade of it from Africa 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:55.640 to the US, but also I just hope that it's just, 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:58.400 you know, because people take the complain about Hollywood and 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:00.520 how there's not enough roles for people of and like 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:04.319 it's very, very true. But I continue to be like you, 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:07.800 we can only beat against a brick wall so hard 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:10.800 trying to expect people to change, the people in casting rooms, 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.600 the directors, the producers to change their perception of people 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:15.840 of color and to cast them for you can only 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:17.400 do that for so long. At a certain point, you 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:19.040 got to say, what can we do? We can create 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:22.240 our own art. We can be in a position of 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:25.200 power putting Ryan Coogler in charge just with that one decision. 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:27.400 You know, he's going to be reaching to people that 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:29.240 he knows, and all of a sudden, those people are 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:32.120 not going to be naturally you know, white, or naturally 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:34.400 you know, from the US, because he might know a 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:36.760 much more diverse variety of people just based on who 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:39.400 he is, based on his own It's like, give us 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:43.319 a chance to use our internal biases, yeah, to our networks. 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:45.800 And as soon as this starts happening more, we just 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:48.480 need more and more people getting in positions of power 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:50.880 and decision making. Like I just that just for me 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:54.080 reinforce that whole belief I've always held, which is that's 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:57.200 where the real change happens. And that's what's so freaking 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:00.960 exciting about Black Panther. And hopefully, like I hope everyone 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:02.720 in this movie just goes on to make more movies 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:03.480 and cast each other. 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:06.600 Yes, I love because you see Ryan Coogler of his 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:09.240 three films, Michael b. Jordan has been in all three 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:13.440 Fruitvale Station, Creed and this one, because that's what he's 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:15.880 able to do. Like I One of the things Michael 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:18.640 B Jordan said when that surprised him when he got 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:22.640 on set was how many brown people were behind the scenes, 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:26.040 that the cameraman, the light man, the sound man. That 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:29.480 he was like, well, he was like, I remember watching 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:33.040 some interview that the whole cast did and they asked 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:34.240 all of the cast, like, what. 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:36.240 Was one of their most memorable moments? 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:40.440 And remember when T'Challa is becoming king and he's he's 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:45.720 this is right before he's about to do the ceremonial challenge, 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:48.360 and so it's like the waterfall scene where everyone is 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:51.640 kind of like in bright colors and like dancing and singing. 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:54.520 So all of them describe how I guess they were 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:56.480 trying to figure out what the direction or what it 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:58.200 was going to look like. So while they waited, they 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:01.200 had African drummers on set. While they waited, the African 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:05.160 drummer started playing Drop It like It's Hot by Snoop Dogg. 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:06.760 Like dude, they said. 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:11.160 Everyone started singing it and just jamming, like waiting for 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:12.480 the director to be like, all right, guys, this is 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:14.240 how we're going to do the shot. And she was 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:16.640 like it was magic, cause where else would that happen? 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:19.680 Snoop Dogg Drop It Like It's Hot. People from every 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:23.960 country imaginable and all throughout the diaspora, all knowing this 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:26.160 one dope song. And she was just like everyone was 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:29.200 just looking around like, yo, this is so lit. 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:33.200 Just seeing how much fun they're having on the press tour, 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:35.720 like following them on the Instagram. It's just you know 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:38.280 it and to see it's just one of those examples 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:41.000 too where everyone is just supporting it. It's when we win, 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:43.200 everyone wins kind of thing. But like right now it 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:45.640 feels like everyone's winning, which is nice. It's not like 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:48.720 you're just congratulating the one woman, you know, in the 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:50.880 one Black woman or one Black man in a movie 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:53.400 getting praised, it's like you're all in it. It's happening 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:55.800 from more than one person. And like what you said 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:59.160 before about the different not just one shade of black, 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:03.960 like a different nationalities, different you know, different backgrounds, different, 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:09.040 just experiences and socioeconomic statuses and just experiences in life. 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:11.320 That's what happens when you give more than just one 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:14.840 person an opportunity like of color, and it's gonna help 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:17.160 other people. Like I hope, I hope people of every 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:19.080 color go see this movie. And I know that they 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:21.720 will because it's a big Marvel movie has a built 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:23.960 in you know, audience. But like the fact that they're 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:25.960 going to be seeing this too and start to think 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:30.400 more complexly about people of color. It's also like a 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:33.480 big win because we may understand that we're not just 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:35.760 one Obviously, we're not just one group. We're different shades, 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:39.360 different backgrounds, different you know, nationalities, et cetera. But there's 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:41.320 a lot of people who just put a put black 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:46.440 people into this big pool. Yeah, remember how you brought 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.040 up get Out. Daniel Kluya was in Get Out and 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:52.080 he is also in Black Panther, But when he was 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:54.640 cast like Samuel L. Jackson was like, man, they should 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:56.800 have given that to an American black actor. Why they 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.280 give it to a British black actor, Like, so we're 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:03.160 nitpicking because it's easy only West, you know. Yeah, that's 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:06.040 that's the frustrating thing about having such limited roles. If 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:09.600 we just create more opportunity than it wouldn't be like these, 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:12.760 the singular roles wouldn't have to have all the pressure 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:13.120 on them. 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:16.240 Yes, you're right, because here I feel like people everyone 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:19.480 is everyone feels good because they're like everyone in the 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:20.760 diaspora is represented. 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:20.960 Here. 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:23.560 I see so many like people going up for like 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:26.360 yes my West Didney and x y Z or yes, 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:28.720 my African sisters in this or yes my you know 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.600 my African American brothers in this. And you're right because 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:35.040 there it wasn't just one role. It was so many roles. 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:37.560 So I really have not heard, you know, the any 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:39.000 sort of like oh they should have. 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:41.560 They're like, no, we're all here. We're literally all here. 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:44.320 And so I mean, but nothing is more And to 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:46.520 bring a tie back to finance, like nothing is more 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:50.720 powerful than financial impact. And in this movie, doing as 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:55.000 well as it has, it dispels that black movies don't 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:56.920 do well. And I think I saw some numbers somewhere 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:59.120 where it was like thirty five percent of the people 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:02.760 who've seen the movie, or African American like thirty seven 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:05.760 percent or white, I believe, and the other was like 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.120 kind of like other. And it just goes to show you. 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:11.199 So it's it wasn't just us. Obviously we came out 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:15.800 in mass but what it shows you is that moviies 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:18.960 with people of color can do well outside of our community, 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:23.960 like there is enough here, you know, and so and yeah. 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:26.440 So at the end of the day, you know, corporations 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:29.200 and businesses, you know, they see money, and so I'm 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:32.240 hoping that this will help to trigger some change and 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:37.640 to put some finances behind you know, creating different images, 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:39.680 because there's money to be made if you do so. 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:42.640 And put these people in places where they can create 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:45.600 more art. Like you know, Lupitza and younger won a 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:48.080 freaking oscar. But we haven't seen her in a major movie. 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:50.640 You know, she's done small parts in like Star Wars, 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:54.480 and she did the Princess or Queen of Katwe, which 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:57.560 was like a Netflix movie, but she went off and 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:01.600 did a play with actually who played the the the 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:06.320 Akoye in the movie done Dona Garia. I'm probably just 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:09.160 butchered her last name. I'm sorry. So she wrote the 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:13.080 play Eclipse, DNA did and then cast Lupita in it. 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:16.040 And look, Eclipse was a play that was in New 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:17.840 York City and ran for a couple of years. It 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:20.040 moved to Broadway. It was a big hit, but it was, 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:21.640 you know, a play, but it was about I think 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:27.200 female prisoners in Liberia, and you know, they went off 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:30.120 and created their own art. But like to have someone say, 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:32.480 you you know, because that's probably where the opportunities were 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:35.200 for them, you know, sadly is on the stage and 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:37.800 you know, on in theater because these roles for in 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:40.400 movies and film that everyone's so excited about just aren't 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:42.560 going women of color. So they had to go off 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:44.080 and do their own art. And I just hope that 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:46.520 with this movie. I just want them. You know, Donae 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:49.080 is in her forties, Lopita, you know, I'm sure by 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:51.520 Hollywood standards is not like you know, a spring chicken 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:53.880 like they which is sad, but they need to be 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:57.560 given these these opportunities to create the same way other 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:00.600 people are, because that's the only way going to continue 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:03.880 seeing stuff like this happen. Yeah, Am I broken record yet? 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:05.200 No? 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:09.040 I just think that, like, yes, I just think that 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:12.560 this is like I'm just excited how everybody's exact. I mean, 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:14.400 of course you have some people who are just contrarians, 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:16.920 but I'm like, girl, you can't steal my joy. 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:22.480 Right, yeah, Sterline K Brown, Angela Bassett and those when 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:24.800 she took off that crown and it was Gray Dreads. 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:30.000 I just I died in love. In love. Yeah, amazing movie. 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:32.000 And I hope that you know, if you're in a 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:35.040 position of power and where you work, or you are 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:37.120 afraid to take a position of power where you work 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:39.000 because you don't think you're ready or whatever, I would 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:41.800 just say, like my message is always you you have 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:44.840 to take it, like you just have to because just 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:46.680 by virtue of who you are, if you're a person 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:49.360 of color or any minority, or just a different experience, 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:52.240 you know, among you know from the people in your office, 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:54.240 Like even though you may not feel ready or maybe 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:57.720 intimidating to you, just think about the just the different 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:01.040 the value of your perspective and you're bringing to the table. 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:04.399 You know you can grow into a job. But you 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:06.880 know that's That's one of the proudest things I can 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:10.600 say as as I'm hiring and building a team is that, 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:13.760 you know, I just know that I'm bringing something different 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:15.600 to the table and I'm building my team and I'm 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:17.600 looking around and I'm like, this is different and this 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:20.600 is special, and you know, it's not something that that 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:22.399 might have happened if I hadn't been here, and I 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:24.720 and I and I and I know I've I've talked 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:28.400 to people about jobs in leadership roles, you know, even 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:30.520 on my team, and to see them be like, I 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:32.720 don't know if I'm ready, and like, you know, it's a. 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:33.359 Lot of response. 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:37.399 I'm like, just do it. I'll help you. Just do 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:39.760 what you got to do it. Take one for the team. 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:42.720 It's going to be great because you never know where 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:44.200 you're going to be next and who you can help. 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.879 Yeah, honestly, it's just to kind of pickyback off. What 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:50.679 you said is that, like we have to you have 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:54.240 to create spaces where like, look, how many different types 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:57.520 of people are going to have opportunities because you're in 0:17:57.520 --> 0:17:58.399 a position to hire. 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:00.680 You Mandy at the Brown Woman. 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:04.600 Are in a position to hire, and so things can't 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:07.880 change unless there is someone in the position to bring 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:10.760 us into the room. Some doors cannot be opened with 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:13.959 just education alone. Someone from the inside literally has to 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:16.159 open the door. There is no door door knob on 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:17.040 the other side. 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:21.879 You know. One of my one of my teammates. 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:25.199 So I call my team of folks that work for 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:27.800 the Academy or the budgetiese. I call them the Unicorn Squad. 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:31.960 So her name is Karen. Karen is amazing. She just 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:34.200 turned forty eight. You know, she looks like twenty five 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:37.800 and she just started working with me. But she's amazing. 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:41.440 So I've made her into like my floating project manager 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:42.640 because she keeps me organized. 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:44.040 And I was telling. 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:45.960 Her, asking her kind of like the other day we 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:48.520 were talking about she was just saying why she enjoyed working, 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:51.560 you know, as a Unicorn Squad member. She was like, 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:56.159 I've never had the opportunity because she is silent but mighty, 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:58.240 like one of these people that puts in so much 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:01.400 work but also does not play the corporate America game, like, hey, 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:03.560 look what I've done. And so she was like, in 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:06.639 all of my jobs, she's got locks too, and she's little. 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:09.000 She's like, in all of my jobs, I've been looked over. 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:12.720 I've been like, no one has given me the opportunity 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:15.240 to fully stretch to the fullness of what I bring 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:17.280