WEBVTT - How Monopolies Are Making Tech Worse

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<v Speaker 1>All Zone Media. Hello and welcome to Better Offline and

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<v Speaker 1>of course I'm your host, head Zeitron. Before we go

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<v Speaker 1>any further, as a reminder, check out the show notes

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<v Speaker 1>for links to back up everything I'm saying. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>creative enough to make this stuff up. It's real, I promise. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>the start of August felt kind of surreal for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time since jack GBT launched in November twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>There were signs that the markets were finally starting to

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<v Speaker 1>wake up to the bullshit of generative AI and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of seeing that it wasn't making anyone money really, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the very obvious thing that some of us have been

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<v Speaker 1>saying for quite some time. Anyway, though, it was remarkable,

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<v Speaker 1>but not as remarkable as what happened in August fifth,

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<v Speaker 1>when a federal judge delivered his ruling in an antitrust

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<v Speaker 1>case filed against Google by the US Department of Justice.

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<v Speaker 1>In three hundred pages of dense legal text, Judge Amitt

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<v Speaker 1>Meta confirmed an excruciating detail that lengthened the breadth of

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<v Speaker 1>what all of us Gander's sort of new. The Google

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<v Speaker 1>has a monopoly in search and online general text advertising.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a specific term of art. For many reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>this ruling was a humiliating one for Google, not least

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<v Speaker 1>because it showed the sordid, nasty little details of how

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<v Speaker 1>it's maintained its market dominance and actively impeded any chance

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<v Speaker 1>of fair competition in the search market. Documents obtained through

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<v Speaker 1>discovery revealed the incredible amounts of money that Google's been

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<v Speaker 1>paying companies. They paid Samsung eight billion dollars over four

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<v Speaker 1>years and Apple twenty billion dollars in twenty twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>alone to remain the fault search engine on their devices,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as Mozilla that makes the Firefox browser. They

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<v Speaker 1>pay about half a billion dollars a year. To be clear,

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<v Speaker 1>this is one of the grizzlier puts. Mozilla is an

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<v Speaker 1>organization I actually admire and they do a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>cool stuff technologically, but it also kind of revealed how

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<v Speaker 1>dependent they are on Google's money to stay afloat. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Meta found that Google had violated the Sherman Act,

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<v Speaker 1>a century old Dante trust legislation that, among other things,

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<v Speaker 1>led to the breakup of Standard Oil in nineteen ten,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as the breakup of AT and T in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty two. This is a significant moment in Silicon

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<v Speaker 1>Valley history, and it's an existential threat to Google. While

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<v Speaker 1>Google's initial success came thanks to it being actually better

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<v Speaker 1>than the alternatives.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyone remember alta Vista? How do this? You see this?

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<v Speaker 1>Google's continued existence is largely thanks to various interconnected monopolies

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<v Speaker 1>it's established, creating a choke hold on Well Search and

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<v Speaker 1>I'd argue the web at large. Over half of Google's

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<v Speaker 1>yearly revenue comes from Google Search, over one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five billion of the three hundred or so billion

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<v Speaker 1>that Google makes every year. And it's hard to imagine

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<v Speaker 1>that Google could sustain said revenue or its dominance without

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<v Speaker 1>paying billions of dollars to starve the competition, and indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>this ruling kind of proves that they can't. As I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>the Sherman Act is roughly one hundred and thirty years old,

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<v Speaker 1>and since its creation, it's unwoven some of the America's

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<v Speaker 1>most intractable monopoly players, single handedly ruining the days of

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<v Speaker 1>oil company CEOs and rail barons alike. It's robust, powerful,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a really good piece of legislation which in

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<v Speaker 1>the decades since its creation, has been augmented with new

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<v Speaker 1>laws to cover the blind spots missed by the original authors. Problematically,

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<v Speaker 1>the Reagan administration kind of detoothed it by refusing to

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<v Speaker 1>actually enforce it. You heard a little of that from

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Stoler's interview from last episode. But crucially, the Sherman

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<v Speaker 1>Act has teeth. It contains provisions that allow judges to

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<v Speaker 1>levy big fines, impose criminal penalties on CEOs or anyone

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<v Speaker 1>else involved, and those penalties can be about a decade long.

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<v Speaker 1>They can also order companies to perform specific actions like

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<v Speaker 1>divesting a business unit to remedy the situation. It's good shit,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's exactly what we need. Well, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that Sundar Pashai is going to prison, which would be very,

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<v Speaker 1>very funny, mostly because hardly anyone ever actually gets prosecuted

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<v Speaker 1>for violating the shit German Act. I do think this

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<v Speaker 1>ruling has the potential to kill Google, at least the

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<v Speaker 1>current Google that we see today, this present form of

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<v Speaker 1>this company that bankrolls its other entities using a crooked

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<v Speaker 1>monopoly over the search market. And in this two part series,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to take a look at how Google created

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<v Speaker 1>its monopoly and how that monopoly allowed it to.

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<v Speaker 2>Become fabulously rich.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll also talk about what might happen next, which for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part, will involve a mixture of history, lessons

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<v Speaker 1>and a healthy dash of bullshit speculation. Ah, I'm kidding,

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<v Speaker 1>it will actually be good, but trust me, even the

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<v Speaker 1>best case scenario for Google here is fairly grim. You

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<v Speaker 1>may also wonder why I've been going on about monopolies

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<v Speaker 1>for weeks, and I really want you to understand. Monopolies

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<v Speaker 1>are a big part of why everything feels like it

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<v Speaker 1>stopped working. So many problems in the modern tech industry

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<v Speaker 1>are a result of a lack of competition, of monopolies

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<v Speaker 1>and oligopolies that change the incentive of a company from

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<v Speaker 1>selling you a service, you a customer who likes the service,

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<v Speaker 1>and for it to extracting as much value from you

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<v Speaker 1>as possible because you have nowhere else to go or

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<v Speaker 1>leaving is difficult. Competition is deeply important. After all, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're not worried about the competition, why would you worry

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<v Speaker 1>about your customers leaving? The incentives of the monopolist are

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<v Speaker 1>inherently degenerative. Monopolists are not concerned about building better products. No,

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<v Speaker 1>they're concerned about squeezing their captive audience as much as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>The documents I covered back in April in The Man

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<v Speaker 1>Who destroyed Google Search are a great example showing how

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<v Speaker 1>Prabagar Ragavan god I love saying his name. The former

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<v Speaker 1>head of ads at Google demanded an increase in queries,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning more searches rather than better results, as a means

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<v Speaker 1>of increasing the amount of time one would spend on Google,

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<v Speaker 1>which in turn would allow Google to show you more ads.

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<v Speaker 1>However you feel about capitalism, a better economy is one

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<v Speaker 1>where actual, real competition between businesses exists, one based on

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<v Speaker 1>their ability to meet customers' needs. This stuff feels very obvious,

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<v Speaker 1>but it needs repeating. A company that fears the competition

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<v Speaker 1>is one that will compete to win a customer's business

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<v Speaker 1>and heart. And conversely, a company that has no real

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<v Speaker 1>fear of losing customers because they've dominated the market with

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<v Speaker 1>say a monopoly, or set up a healthy cartel of friendly,

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<v Speaker 1>other bigger quote competitors where newcomers are effectively chased out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they can make their products worse without fear that customers

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<v Speaker 1>might do something annoying like choose another option. You see

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of it outside of tech two. Ticketmaster and

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<v Speaker 1>its associated properties have dominated live events to the point

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<v Speaker 1>that they control both on sale tickets and the resale market,

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<v Speaker 1>leading to things like their horrifying Platinum Seats deal, where

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<v Speaker 1>Ticketmaster reserves tickets so that it can sell them for

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<v Speaker 1>a higher price to fans that couldn't buy them the

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<v Speaker 1>normal way, which Ticketmaster also runs. And that's why the

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Justice is suing them, and they suit them

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<v Speaker 1>in May for their monopoly. I wish the executives at

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<v Speaker 1>Ticketmaster nothing but the worst. Four companies control eighty percent

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<v Speaker 1>of US air travel after decades of acquisitions, allowing them

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<v Speaker 1>to effectively charge whatever they want, and because there are

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<v Speaker 1>so few of them, they'll pretty much keep their prices

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<v Speaker 1>around the same amount. It's a fake competition and a

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<v Speaker 1>fake competitive environment, and it's bad for customers and it's disgusting.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you may think, ah, I got really shitty internet speed,

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<v Speaker 1>and whenever I call customer service, they don't seem to

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<v Speaker 1>pick up. And that's because most Americans have no real

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<v Speaker 1>choice in internet providers thanks to monopolies run by companies

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<v Speaker 1>like Comcast, Charter Central, Lincoln, Cox, who can charge what

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<v Speaker 1>they want, perform a fairly mediocre standard, and effectively abandoned

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<v Speaker 1>less profitable rural areas, discarding some to ultraslow DSL Internet

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<v Speaker 1>that many of you probably have not used in decades,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of my favorite ones are the real fuck nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>The scumbags are at Frontier Frontier Communications, which is partly

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<v Speaker 1>owned by a private equity firm called Cerebrous Capital Management,

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<v Speaker 1>which owns part of Albertson's, a grocery store that's currently

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<v Speaker 1>in the midst of a battle with the FDC over

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<v Speaker 1>a larger chain called Kroger's trying to buy them, with

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<v Speaker 1>the FTC correctly arguing that it would eliminate competition and

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<v Speaker 1>allow one firm to control grocery prices. Hey, that reminds

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<v Speaker 1>me of something. You remember when inflation was increasing prices everywhere. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you'd like a journalist who was writing, actually, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's nothing to do with the companies. You're fucking wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>You were wrong at the time, and you should not

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<v Speaker 1>write anymore. It's disgusting. What actually happened was the increasingly

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<v Speaker 1>dwindling amount of competition in many consumer goods companies allowed

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<v Speaker 1>them to all raise their prices at once, gouging customers

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that should have had someone sent to

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<v Speaker 1>jail rather than make nineteen million dollars for CEOs that

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<v Speaker 1>were bleeding Americans dry. It's also much much easier for

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<v Speaker 1>a tech company to establish a monopoly because they often

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<v Speaker 1>do so nestled in their own platforms, making the monopolies

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit harder to pull apart. Without a

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred page legal document. One can easily say, if

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<v Speaker 1>you own all the grocery stores in an area, that

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<v Speaker 1>means you can control the price of groceries. That one's

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<v Speaker 1>a bit more obvious, but it's a little harder to

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<v Speaker 1>point at the problem with the tech industry because said

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<v Speaker 1>monopolies are. They're pretty new and different, yet mostly come

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<v Speaker 1>down to owning on some level both the customer and

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<v Speaker 1>those selling to the customer. There are no alternatives.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a fairly.

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<v Speaker 1>Basic part of all commerce. One cannot have a lawyer

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<v Speaker 1>represent both sides, and one ideally should not have the

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<v Speaker 1>same agent represent both the buyer and the seller of

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<v Speaker 1>a house, which does happen in some states, which is insane.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet it's these conflicts of interest that the tech

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<v Speaker 1>industry has made billions of dollars off of and I'd

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<v Speaker 1>argue that they can't operate without metas monopoly over the

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<v Speaker 1>advertising on both Instagram and Facebook, as well as its

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<v Speaker 1>own black box algorithms allow it to make the products

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<v Speaker 1>that you use every day so much worse just to

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<v Speaker 1>show you more ads, and they can increase advertising prices

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<v Speaker 1>whenever they want something they've done multiple times without anybody

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<v Speaker 1>really covering it. As a result, Meta is also the

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<v Speaker 1>only source of truth for houses successful your advertising is,

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<v Speaker 1>to the point that it tricked the entire media industry

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<v Speaker 1>into pivoting to video using phony numbers. Hundreds of people

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<v Speaker 1>lost their jobs. Nothing happened to Meta. Meta, as with

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<v Speaker 1>any digital advertising monopolist, can basically say whatever it wants

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<v Speaker 1>to you, inflating stats where they need to as a

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<v Speaker 1>means of getting more money out of you, which is

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<v Speaker 1>why there is a seven billion dollar class action suit

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<v Speaker 1>against the company for literally doing that. How has it

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<v Speaker 1>taken this long to do anything? It drives me fucking anyway, again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's about incentives. If Meta has no competition, Meta does

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<v Speaker 1>not have to act honestly or give detailed metrics about

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<v Speaker 1>ad performance, because where else are you gonna go, You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go to the other advertiser on Facebook. As Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Stoler said in the last episode, as Mata isn't really

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<v Speaker 1>losing business as their products decay, that seriously suggests they've

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<v Speaker 1>got a monopoly over well the advertising on their own products. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I know some of you say I'm too easy on Apple,

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<v Speaker 1>but don't worry. I'm writing the ship Apple has, at

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<v Speaker 1>least outside of Europe, with the European Commissioners ruled the

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<v Speaker 1>company must allow third party app stores the monopoly over

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<v Speaker 1>the iOS and associated app stores as well as the

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<v Speaker 1>advertising connected to it, meaning that it can set the

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<v Speaker 1>prices such as it's seventy thirty revenue split, what can

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<v Speaker 1>be installed and house said apps and monetized, which is

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<v Speaker 1>again why the Department of Justice has recently sued it

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<v Speaker 1>for antitrust violations. There is only one way to buy

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<v Speaker 1>apps on your iPhone, and that's why the app store

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<v Speaker 1>is so utterly swamped with micro transaction, pumped filth and

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<v Speaker 1>random flashlight apps with invasive advertising and spyware and shit,

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<v Speaker 1>there's not really quality control.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually, by the way, what their argument is, especially Apple

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<v Speaker 1>and I use Apple devices and recording this on an

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<v Speaker 1>Apple device. I use an iPhone and a MacBook. But

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<v Speaker 1>come the fuck on the whole point of the app Store,

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<v Speaker 1>this whole time with Apple holding onto it with their nasty,

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<v Speaker 1>gauntleted fists, was that they hold the quality up. But

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<v Speaker 1>what you see with the app Store today is a disgrace.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything is micro transaction field. And I know the argument is, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what customers want. Fuck you, it's what you allow.

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<v Speaker 1>Apple allowed the micro transaction industry to grow on iOS

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<v Speaker 1>and in doing so, effectively killed gaming on your phone.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason that most games require some kind they're free

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<v Speaker 1>to play, but they require some kind of micro transaction

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<v Speaker 1>to really use them is because these games are insanely profitable.

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<v Speaker 1>They're also deeply evil and exploitative. Yeah, Apple allows them

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<v Speaker 1>because Apple makes so much money off of them, thirty

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<v Speaker 1>percent of each transaction. If there was a just world here,

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<v Speaker 1>if we lived in a just society, if the App

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<v Speaker 1>Store was a just society, Apple would have said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>this is an evil kind of money making thing. There

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<v Speaker 1>is no reason why this should exist. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>I sound a bit radical on this, and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>someone would disagree and say, oh, I like playing Warlords Battlemasters.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care. Those games are evil. There's a reason

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<v Speaker 1>why mobile gaming is so thin, and it's because of

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<v Speaker 1>companies like Apple, and Matt Stoler said this on the

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<v Speaker 1>last episode, and I really like this. When you have

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<v Speaker 1>such a strong monopoly, you're effectively a political power, and

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<v Speaker 1>things grow within the system, evil things when you use

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<v Speaker 1>that monopoly and that power in a way that incentivizes them.

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<v Speaker 1>Apple could and should have and the play Store to

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<v Speaker 1>an extent. Sure, but Apple really created this market, should

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<v Speaker 1>have crushed microtransaction filled free to play games. They should

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<v Speaker 1>have rate limited them, I don't know, or they should

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<v Speaker 1>have just not allowed them to live. Companies like Ebony,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, have got so rich over these games that

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<v Speaker 1>require people to put hundreds of dollars to even compete. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's another competition thing, all right. I'll stop rating about

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<v Speaker 1>this though. We'll get back to the advertising side of

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<v Speaker 1>the app store. And Apple, just to be clear, is

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<v Speaker 1>the only advertising firm on the app Store, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is a big problem. Apple has aggressively moved against tracking

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<v Speaker 1>of iOS users, a good thing, by the way, yet

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<v Speaker 1>they hold a complete monopoly on any advertisements on the

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<v Speaker 1>app Store on their phones and any associated advertisement at

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<v Speaker 1>all on the iPhone, and yeah, you just have to

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<v Speaker 1>trust them, by the way, on the results there as

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<v Speaker 1>that's the only company you can advertise with. There's not

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<v Speaker 1>really any other choice.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry. Also, that's why Apple is also.

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<v Speaker 1>Being sued by the DOJ for alleged German Act violations

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<v Speaker 1>over allegations It's control of services like I Message, which

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<v Speaker 1>is unavailable on Android, door Windows, and as internal documents show,

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<v Speaker 1>is seen as a useful tool for ensuring customer loyalty

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<v Speaker 1>has allowed it to restrict competition in the messaging, smartphone

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<v Speaker 1>and wearable markets. And what's frustrating here is Apple is

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<v Speaker 1>probably not as evil as Google, and I've definitely gone

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<v Speaker 1>to back for Apple. But when you really sit and

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<v Speaker 1>think about it, does it need to be like this?

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<v Speaker 1>Could Apple not open this stuff up? There's not really

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<v Speaker 1>a quality control thing. Eddie Q, if you're listening, come

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<v Speaker 1>on the show shoot the shit with me, because I'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to hear the justification. Steve Jobs was a horrible

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<v Speaker 1>man at Deadbeat Dad, real piece of shit, but he

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<v Speaker 1>at least realized that there was a level of quality

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<v Speaker 1>you had to provide and the app store doesn't have it.

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<v Speaker 1>There is an App Store episode coming, By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna really take it to task because I think

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<v Speaker 1>that Apple's responsibility to society here is yet another thing

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<v Speaker 1>they've defaulted on, just like Google's defaulted on search. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this whole thing is it comes down to restrictions.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think you should live restrict for lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Though restricted lives, I don't know, but if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to free yourself and especially the money in your wallet,

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<v Speaker 1>you should buy one of the following products.

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<v Speaker 2>Or don't.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what a life unrestricted feels like. But take your

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<v Speaker 1>wallets out and maybe start spending on this product that's

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<v Speaker 1>coming up that I'm sure you're gonna hear the ad

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<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna be like, damn, damn, that's so.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for Ed. Ed probably loves this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably hearing this ad and saying, damn, they really

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<v Speaker 1>nailed the things that I believe in. So go on,

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<v Speaker 1>show them your credit card, wave it in their face

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<v Speaker 1>a bit yum young, and we're back. But I want

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<v Speaker 1>to make it clear, and I will make it clear.

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<v Speaker 1>The competition is good. You want competition. Every one of

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<v Speaker 1>these companies has sold you a lie that allowing them

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<v Speaker 1>to control the experience makes it better because it'll be

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<v Speaker 1>curated by the company that made it. Yet the companies

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<v Speaker 1>that make these things a huge constantly laying people off,

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<v Speaker 1>though this isn't the case with Apple, and when given

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<v Speaker 1>the chance, will take as many liberties as they can

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<v Speaker 1>to squeezees many dollars out of every user. And when

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have to compete, they get lazy, they get domesticated.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't have to innovate or impress you. They just

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<v Speaker 1>have to keep you there, and keeping you there can

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<v Speaker 1>be as simple as it's really difficult to move, or

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<v Speaker 1>where else are you going to go? I keep using

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<v Speaker 1>my iPhone because I genuinely like iOS, but I also

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<v Speaker 1>know that if I message was an app rather than

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<v Speaker 1>a thing only found in Apple products, I'd absolutely consider

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<v Speaker 1>using another platform. I'm sure someone's going to message me

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<v Speaker 1>about goddamn beeper or something like that. It's not a

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<v Speaker 1>good ux. I don't like it, sorry, Casey. Anyway, when

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<v Speaker 1>you have a marketplace entirely dominated by one company selling

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<v Speaker 1>advertising on services it runs, you really have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>what you're buying. And this is when we get back

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<v Speaker 1>to Google and specifically their AI powered Performance Max platform,

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<v Speaker 1>a four year old black box advertising solution that covers

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<v Speaker 1>all of Google's properties, letting you run one campaign across

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<v Speaker 1>every Google property. Man, how convenient, right? You just tell

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<v Speaker 1>Google what you want, how much you want to spend,

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<v Speaker 1>and roughly who you'd like to see it with what

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<v Speaker 1>you're advertising a Google will magically tell you at the

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<v Speaker 1>end how many people saw your ads and how much

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<v Speaker 1>you owe Google for the pleasure. And no, you do

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<v Speaker 1>not know where the ads ran, which is a problem

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<v Speaker 1>That means that hundreds of large brands find themselves every

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<v Speaker 1>year spending money on spammy and scammy websites that likely

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<v Speaker 1>never get them any real customers. And as an aside,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way I'm hearing tell that there's a big

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<v Speaker 1>problem in CPM advertising cost per mile, so impressions where

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know the impressions might not be real people,

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<v Speaker 1>they might be bots. Oh and you know what, I

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<v Speaker 1>have to wonder if the end of this trial doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>involve that data being shared with the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>companies in the industry and US finding out it's a

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<v Speaker 1>much bigger problem. I have an advertising episode coming up

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<v Speaker 1>as well. This, by the way, all of this horrible

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<v Speaker 1>monopolistic chicanery. This is what keeps the lights on for

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<v Speaker 1>these companies. Google and Meta own both the products and

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<v Speaker 1>the advertising services available on those products, and thus set

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<v Speaker 1>the terms of every part of the transaction. Because there's

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<v Speaker 1>no other way to advertise on Google, Search, Facebook, or Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>there are entities competing for placement, but that competition is

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<v Speaker 1>done on the terms and the platforms set by the

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<v Speaker 1>platforms themselves, which in turn control how and when the

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<v Speaker 1>ads are shown and how much you'll be charged for them. Crucially,

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<v Speaker 1>these companies also control all the data involved. They are

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<v Speaker 1>both the companies selling you the ad space and the

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<v Speaker 1>company auditing said ad space and the business. If you

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<v Speaker 1>do not like Google as an advertising vendor on Google,

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<v Speaker 1>or Meta as a partner to advertise with on Facebook,

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<v Speaker 1>you are shit out of luck, both if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to try an alternative and if you need them to

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<v Speaker 1>improve the product in question. This is the exact reason

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<v Speaker 1>that Google is so nervous about its upcoming antitrust trial

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<v Speaker 1>over its accused monopoly over digital advertising, because the government

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<v Speaker 1>wants it to divest its ad management divination, which would

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<v Speaker 1>in turn create an entirely different marketplace, one where it

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<v Speaker 1>actually I don't know had to compete. I also don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe that most of these companies can operate without their monopolies.

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<v Speaker 1>As I've said before, Facebook and Instagram are increasingly decaying

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<v Speaker 1>products that make tens of billions of dollars a year

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<v Speaker 1>because there's no competitor that can undercut or compete with

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<v Speaker 1>metas advertising dollars, which make up ninety eight percent of

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<v Speaker 1>their revenue. Meta made thirteen point four to six billion

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in profit last quarter on thirty nine billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>in revenue, which is a direct result of it being

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<v Speaker 1>able to manipul the platform to show more advertising and

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<v Speaker 1>increase the pricing of the advertising being shown. Metas users

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<v Speaker 1>are trapped because Meta owns two of the largest social

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<v Speaker 1>networks in the world three if you count Threads, though

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't show adds yet, and Metas advertisers need to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to access the swards of people that the

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<v Speaker 1>platform has. Everyone loses except for Meta. Of course, Meta

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<v Speaker 1>does so very well, but we need to crush their monopoly.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, all of this goes for Google

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<v Speaker 1>two and they made a profit of twenty three point

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<v Speaker 1>six two billion dollars last quarter, but on revenues of

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<v Speaker 1>eighty four point seventy four billion dollars. Do you really

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<v Speaker 1>think that sixty one billion dollars in expenditures or losses

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<v Speaker 1>is sustainable in the event that Google no longer owns

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<v Speaker 1>a monopoly over its advertising space. All those costs aren't

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<v Speaker 1>all associated with Google Search half of their revenue is,

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<v Speaker 1>and how much of said revenue is tied in the

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<v Speaker 1>vagueness of the metrics it provides to its advertisers. Using

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<v Speaker 1>these numbers, we see that Meta had expenditures of twins

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<v Speaker 1>tent five point five four billion dollars over the last quarter. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>can it sustain this level of spending without a monopoly

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<v Speaker 1>on advertising on Facebook and Instagram? I don't think they can.

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<v Speaker 1>And sure they could cut back on the tens of

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<v Speaker 1>billions of dollars they're putting into reality labs. That might help,

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<v Speaker 1>but at some point they're going to run out of

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<v Speaker 1>people to sell to and they definitely couldn't survive if

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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't rig the dice how they have been. And

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<v Speaker 1>while we might like the main revenue driving products and

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<v Speaker 1>services from Apple like iPhones and MacBooks and Microsoft Xbox,

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<v Speaker 1>Surface Office three sixty five and Windows, it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>say the same of Meta and Google, and I believe

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<v Speaker 1>both are very brittle. As a result, a lack of

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<v Speaker 1>competition has turned Metascore products into skinner boxes that live

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<v Speaker 1>only as a result of a combination of a black

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<v Speaker 1>box advertising product where nobody knows what's actually happening, and

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<v Speaker 1>a product that billions of people rely on and use

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<v Speaker 1>for free, kind of like Google Search and its associated

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<v Speaker 1>products like Gmail and Google Docs, which I got to

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<v Speaker 1>admit I still really like Gmail and Google are so good.

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<v Speaker 1>I have had readers and listeners ask I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>when they're going to fuck them up, and I'm scared.

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<v Speaker 1>But these companies are not competing so much as they're

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<v Speaker 1>holding the digital lives of their customers hostage and using

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<v Speaker 1>that as a means to set the terms of how

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<v Speaker 1>they're shown advertising that Google both controls the placement and

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<v Speaker 1>pricing up. They're not worried about somebody using the other product.

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook has really not got any competitors, let's be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>Gmail kind of does, but does it. It's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>a big mess. But you know, if you're looking for

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<v Speaker 1>an alternative product to something you already own, well, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a great place to go to and it's whatever the

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<v Speaker 1>next thing you hear is. And I'm sure they're very

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<v Speaker 1>trustworthy and they would never ever embarrass me. And you

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<v Speaker 1>should take your wallet and just fastball it at them

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<v Speaker 1>so hard you require Tommy John's surgery. Please buy the

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<v Speaker 1>thing or dimond, I don't know. I can't make you,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're back. As I was saying, Google doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to worry about losing you to another search engine, nor

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<v Speaker 1>does it worry about you leaving Gmail or Google Docs

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<v Speaker 1>or any of its other products, because leaving is hard

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<v Speaker 1>and advertisers simply do not have another choice. Google has

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<v Speaker 1>such a large market share of so many markets and

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<v Speaker 1>just one easy ad platform to use them, ah, I

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<v Speaker 1>would be painful. And also where else do you find

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<v Speaker 1>this many customers? It doesn't even have to as Microsoft, Amazon,

0:23:34.960 --> 0:23:38.040
<v Speaker 1>and Apple have had to diversify its business or add

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<v Speaker 1>other revenue streams besides the big two of search and

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<v Speaker 1>online advertising. Yes they make money on cloud, yes, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's not going to replace the search revenue. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>take the piss. I'd even go as far as to

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<v Speaker 1>say that Google can't diversify, at least culturally speaking. When

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<v Speaker 1>it was a young company, Google had a policy where

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<v Speaker 1>engineers could spend at least twenty percent of their time

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<v Speaker 1>on projects that in rested them. This in turn led

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<v Speaker 1>to the creation of beloved things like Google News, which

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<v Speaker 1>was a passion project of Krishna Barat, and Gmail from

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Boushett. And what's crazy about this is Google has

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<v Speaker 1>kind of moved away from this model. I'll get to

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<v Speaker 1>it in a second. It's extremely blood boiling in the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty tens. As Google entered this adolescence, it began to

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<v Speaker 1>resemble sadly the kind of stodgy corporate behemoths it once

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<v Speaker 1>for cutting perks and ending permissive workplace practices, and one,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems, was this twenty percent time. Whether twenty percent

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<v Speaker 1>time still exists is genuinely a hot debate in the Valley.

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<v Speaker 1>While Google insists it remains a policy, some Google employees

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<v Speaker 1>claim it no longer exists, although it's effectively become one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty percent time, meaning that you effectively have

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<v Speaker 1>to do it on top of the rest of your work.

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<v Speaker 1>In a report by Quarts from a few years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>one engineer blamed the death of twenty percent time on

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<v Speaker 1>stack ranking, where you fire the bottom percentile of workers

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<v Speaker 1>based on their performance every quarter or so. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to know it, blaming for that idea is

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<v Speaker 1>Jack fucking Welch, who I went into detail with about

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<v Speaker 1>and just every time I think of Jack Welch, you

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<v Speaker 1>need to listen to the Shareholder Supremacy Series. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>it just makes me so angry because you can see

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<v Speaker 1>his influence everywhere. It makes me so no, no, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Google's rock continued in twenty fifteen when they hired former

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<v Speaker 1>Morgan Stanley financial executive Ruth parat Is at CFO. Porat's

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<v Speaker 1>arrival was celebrated by the markets, which added sixty billion

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<v Speaker 1>dollars to Google's market capitalization as the share price went up,

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<v Speaker 1>in part because they expected parat to bring Google to

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<v Speaker 1>a level of fiscal discipline it sorely lacked, by which

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that Google made over seventeen billion dollars a

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<v Speaker 1>year in profits, which was not enough for them. And

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<v Speaker 1>as The Information reported in twenty twenty one, this involved

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<v Speaker 1>killing products that from the outset didn't appear to be

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<v Speaker 1>going anywhere. But you know, things take time. Products take time.

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<v Speaker 1>Gmail took time. I don't think Gmail made much money

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<v Speaker 1>for the first few years they were still working out

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<v Speaker 1>how to make money off of it. Sometimes you need

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<v Speaker 1>to experiment, and I don't know innovate and man though, man,

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<v Speaker 1>they love killing products though Google they claim to invest

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<v Speaker 1>in innovation, but they really don't. And their reputation is

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<v Speaker 1>so good that there is an entire website called killed

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<v Speaker 1>by Google that lists everything they've killed. While some of

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<v Speaker 1>these products had a decent run, like Google Domains, which

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<v Speaker 1>made it nine whole years, others were terminated in a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of months, like game Builder, which was a beginner

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<v Speaker 1>friendly tool for building multiplayer three D games that lasted wow,

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<v Speaker 1>five whole months before Google got out the bolt Gun.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason I bring this up is because it's very

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<v Speaker 1>illustrative of Google's biggest threat that they have from antitrust action.

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<v Speaker 1>Their cultures moved away from innovating and creating things and

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<v Speaker 1>experimenting to make things. And what sucks is they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to do this. They've all they've been profitable for

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<v Speaker 1>what decades now. But I think there's three reasons why

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<v Speaker 1>they can't innovate anymore. First of all, employees aren't really

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<v Speaker 1>provided the opportunity to work on promising ideas without fearing

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<v Speaker 1>that well they'll get fired for not doing their main job. Secondly,

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<v Speaker 1>even if they manage to create something new and interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>Google has shown a total lack of patience and they

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<v Speaker 1>won't let things mature and grow over time, which kind

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<v Speaker 1>of echoes a wider financial problem. You see it a

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<v Speaker 1>lot in media and indeed podcasts, where podcasts are given

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<v Speaker 1>what three months to sing for their supper, and if

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<v Speaker 1>they don't survive, they're killed. Same with TV shows. And

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<v Speaker 1>guess what, it's something that tracks very precisely with the

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<v Speaker 1>management consultants like sund Up A shy coming in. But

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<v Speaker 1>the third thing, by the way, is the most obvious,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's Google does not need to innovate, or at

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<v Speaker 1>least they don't believe they need to. Google makes an

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<v Speaker 1>absolute killing from search and advertising, So why would it bother?

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<v Speaker 1>Why bother trying to make something interesting or unique, something

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<v Speaker 1>that might make oh ugh, disgusting. Only fifty or one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred million dollars a year, h your big nasty monopolies

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:56.639
<v Speaker 1>gushing billions of dollars without you doing anything. You just

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<v Speaker 1>mess with the customers. Every day more money comes out.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would you possibly try and make a new business line?

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<v Speaker 2>Idiot?

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<v Speaker 1>But that's the thing. This is how Google runs. Why

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<v Speaker 1>would Google possibly tolerate a product that didn't turn into

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<v Speaker 1>a hypergrowth market or look like it might.

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<v Speaker 2>Who cares? Why would you bother?

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<v Speaker 1>Why when there's nobody to compete with? Why would you

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<v Speaker 1>give a shit? And that's the thing. We may call

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<v Speaker 1>this company Google. We may refer to Google as the

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<v Speaker 1>owner of Google Search, the creator of Google Search, the

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<v Speaker 1>creator of Gmail. But Google is not Google anymore. Google

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<v Speaker 1>the company that was beloved for their search product and

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<v Speaker 1>for their email product.

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<v Speaker 2>They're dead.

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<v Speaker 1>The company with such cultural importance that its name is

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking verb is dead. Killed by people like Prabagar Ragavan,

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<v Speaker 1>Liz Read, and Sandhar Pisshai. What exists today is a

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<v Speaker 1>private equity firm with a bunch of flailing business units

0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 1>bolted onto a monopoly over a search engine and its

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<v Speaker 1>associated advertising, run by a former management consultant called Sonda Peshai.

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<v Speaker 1>Google's culture is burning in broad daylight its workers. And

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<v Speaker 1>I hear from a lot of you, and I love

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<v Speaker 1>hearing from you. I will protect your identities. They're furious.

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<v Speaker 1>They're furious of what has been done and what is

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<v Speaker 1>being done to a company that used to be synonymous

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<v Speaker 1>with innovation and experimentation, and this is why I want

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<v Speaker 1>to emphasize how dire things are for Google. Keeping the

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<v Speaker 1>lights on in Mountain View. It isn't cheap, and I'd

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<v Speaker 1>argue that Google is only capable of operating its current

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<v Speaker 1>scale because of its bullshit dominance of search and ads.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's forced to, for example, divest its lucrative advertising business,

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<v Speaker 1>which would require them cutting off pretty much the most

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<v Speaker 1>profitable business of all time, or sharing data with competitors

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:47.640
<v Speaker 1>which would allow their competitors to compete, or jettisoning its

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<v Speaker 1>Android or Chrome businesses, I'm just not sure that Google,

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<v Speaker 1>both culturally and financially, is capable of competing. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think they are a competitive business in the way that

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<v Speaker 1>most business. Let me give you an example, my PR firm, right,

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<v Speaker 1>or any real business. I have competitors. If I'm shit

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<v Speaker 1>at my job, if it gets around, if people are

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<v Speaker 1>saying I'm shit, if I do a bad job from

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<v Speaker 1>tons of people, someone else can be hired in my place.

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<v Speaker 1>The same thing happens from many small business owners and

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<v Speaker 1>just regular people at jobs. If you're shit at your job,

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<v Speaker 1>you get fired, and in turn, you would lose money.

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<v Speaker 1>Thus you try and do a good job so that

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<v Speaker 1>you're kept at your job or your business keeps getting

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<v Speaker 1>money so that the business keeps going. I know this

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<v Speaker 1>sounds very obvious, but Google, on the other hand, has

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<v Speaker 1>never really had to compete with anybody on quality, not

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<v Speaker 1>of search results, not of ad product, nor have they

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<v Speaker 1>had to compete with I don't know other advertisers. Searches

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<v Speaker 1>are monopoly onto itself. They bullied and used mob like

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<v Speaker 1>tactics and just swards of money to get people out,

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<v Speaker 1>but on the advertising side, they've never had competition. They

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<v Speaker 1>built the marketplace, then they shut the fucking doors behind everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess in front of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Eh. Whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But taking this a step further, I just don't believe

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<v Speaker 1>that the company with more than half of its revenue

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<v Speaker 1>coming from such an obvious monopoly is built sustainably. And

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, I believe that Google search monopoly is used

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<v Speaker 1>to bankroll their other oligopolies in other industries like cloud

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<v Speaker 1>and mobile and internet browsers. Cloud is profitable, ish took

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<v Speaker 1>them a while to get there, and with the mass

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<v Speaker 1>buildouts they're doing for Google Gemini, do you really think

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<v Speaker 1>it's profitable anymore? Let me put it simply. Google is

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<v Speaker 1>not a company built for competition, and I believe it

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<v Speaker 1>will collapse if it's ever forced to compete. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think this company is capable of the kind of adaptation

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<v Speaker 1>or reinvention it would need. I think it's lost that ability,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's lost it through tens of thousands of layoffs

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<v Speaker 1>and being run by a guy whose only job is

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<v Speaker 1>to make number go up. The vibrancy and culture that

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<v Speaker 1>once existed in Google is dead and gone and isn't

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<v Speaker 1>coming back. And while Google is significantly more profitable, well,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a chance to it ends up shattering and turning

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<v Speaker 1>into several different Yahoos. Hey, that reminds me of something

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<v Speaker 1>their current search head, Propa gard Ragavan, when they used

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<v Speaker 1>to work.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it Yahoo? Is that good? Is Yahoo a good company? Oh? Fuck?

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:17.920
<v Speaker 2>They're owned by a private acuity. Film that's not good.

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<v Speaker 1>Well anyway, In the next episode, I'm going to dive

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<v Speaker 1>into the specifics of how Google amassed it's monopoly and

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<v Speaker 1>what breaking it up might actually mean for the future

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<v Speaker 1>of the company and the Internet at large. I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>excited to talk about it because I want to see

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<v Speaker 1>these companies burned. I want to see companies that refuse

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<v Speaker 1>to compete, that refuse to act on human terms, that

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<v Speaker 1>treat their customers like shit, that are run by insanely

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<v Speaker 1>rich guys who don't talk to regular people. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to see them burn. If you're a big company and

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<v Speaker 1>you do a good job, I had no problem with

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<v Speaker 1>you none, But if you must exploit to get rich,

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<v Speaker 1>fuck you. I'm coming for you every week, every goddamn day.

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