1 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: Running back on the field again, But is this just 2 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: the latest false start in a long drive towards the deal. 3 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: We will tell you the latest on James Cook's contract 4 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: talks as the NFL's leading touchdown score returns the practice. 5 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 2: Terry McLaurin was also. 6 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: Back on the field today, but just out there having 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: a nice little chat with GM. Adam Peters, still not 8 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: in uniform as his hold in continues. Hear what Commanders 9 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: coach Dan Quinn had to say about the veteran wide 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: receiver's status. The Packers also will not have their quarterback 11 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: Jordan Love on the field anytime soon thanks to surgery 12 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: today for a thumb injury. We will break down why 13 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: Green Bay brass says they are not concerned about Love 14 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: hurting again. Welcome inside with the Insiders, presented by SATFA 15 00:00:55,960 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: alongside Judy Batista. I am Tom Pellisero. Mike Girofolo will 16 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: be along shortly. We are twenty three days out right 17 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: now from the opener, just three days away from the 18 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: second full preseason week, and maybe just maybe a small 19 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: sign of progress for one of Buffalo's most important players 20 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: to be out there prior to week one. That is 21 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: running back James Cook, the pro bowler who was on 22 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: the field today, had begun a hold in about a 23 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: week ago by telling reporters at the time it was 24 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: business well, that business is not yet complete. He does 25 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: not have a new contract, leading reporters to ask Sean 26 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: mcderbott today, what changed. 27 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 3: I would say so, I would say so that things 28 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 3: have changed to Lena with and yes, we've had conversations 29 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 3: with James, good conversations, as I've mentioned before, and the 30 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 3: information that we're getting is that he is moving in 31 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 3: the direction of practicing today. 32 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: So this has been an ongoing process, Judy, going all 33 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: the way back to February and March, where we saw 34 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: all those deals the Bills got done with the likes 35 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: of Christian Benford and Greg Russo in the offseason, James Cook. 36 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,119 Speaker 2: Was the priority. They couldn't get a deal done. 37 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: Then it's been this back and forth on and off 38 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: between Cook and the Bills. To me, just looking at 39 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: this from the outside in, this appears to be a 40 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: show of good faith from James Cook. I'll get back 41 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 1: on the field now, let's see if we can actually 42 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: bring this thing across the goal line. 43 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 4: I feel like the last few weeks with all of 44 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 4: these hold in and hold out situations where like reading 45 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 4: the tea leaves and trying to read body language. And 46 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 4: I think on this one, right, this is sort of 47 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 4: an incremental step in the right direction. Sean McDermott was 48 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 4: very careful to say, not to say that the hold 49 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 4: in is over right. They're not going to jump ahead here, 50 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 4: but he is practicing, which is a change. He was 51 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 4: not practicing for a while. Remember the game last weekend. 52 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 4: He dressed and then did not play in the game, 53 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 4: which caught some of them by surprise. So this seems 54 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 4: to at least be a little bit of a thaw 55 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 4: in where the relationship was just a few days ago. 56 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 2: And that's a good thing. They need him. 57 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 4: He scored sixteen rushing touchdowns last season. This team is 58 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 4: ever so close to getting to the Super Bowl. They 59 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 4: need James Cook to be on the field. And I 60 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 4: know Tom, in the past you've reported they're not really 61 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 4: that far apart. So I mean, this certainly seems to 62 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 4: be on the James Cook side, maybe not extending the 63 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 4: olive branch, but at least stepping forward and trying to 64 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 4: meet the team halfway. As we get further into the preseason, 65 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 4: and you get closer to the opener. All of these 66 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 4: teams that have these contract situations unresolved, you would think 67 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 4: they're going to want to start to wrap things up 68 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 4: now coming up in the next week to two weeks. 69 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: This James Cook situation is also unfolded in a rare 70 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: public fashion surrounding the bills. You have not had hold 71 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: ins since Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott got there. They've 72 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: not had things play out in the media. But of 73 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: course you had some comments back in the spring, and 74 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: negotiations did not go the way that James Cook wanted to. 75 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: He said at one point I want fifteen million dollars 76 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: per ye, which would put him in that rare air 77 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: with the likes of Christian McCaffrey and more recently Saquon 78 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: Barkley and Derrick Henry on their extensions. My innerstanding is 79 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: at this point he's not asking for fifteen He's looking 80 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: at a number that is closer to Kyron Williams, who 81 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: just got done at eleven million dollars per year. It 82 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: would seem like that created an extremely clear baseline for 83 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: these negotiations here, but there's always a back and forth. 84 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: I have said it one hundred times. 85 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: I'll make it one hundred and one right here, Judy, 86 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: They're not that far apart. But there is no close. 87 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: There's only done, and this deal is not yet done. 88 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin and the Commanders, on the other hand, not 89 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: seemed all that close. In fact, have been on very 90 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: different pages throughout the offseason. Now we're putting this in 91 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: the hold in bucket, even though technically Terry McLaurin is 92 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: on the physically unable to perform list, had a real 93 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: ankle injury and the last season rehabited for a while. 94 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 2: That's what he's been doing. 95 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: But today, for the first time, he was at least 96 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: spotted on the field during in practice. 97 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 2: Here's what coach Dan Quinn had to say. 98 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 5: Look, you want everybody as to coach out on the 99 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 5: field at every practice, every game. I also know that that's 100 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 5: that's not reality either, and so I just try to 101 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 5: make sure a man like just keep pouring into the guys, 102 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 5: keep digging into it. But I know it is, you know, 103 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 5: part of our game where you know you don't have 104 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 5: everybody all the time. It does in some ways there's contingencies. 105 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 5: How do you work how he featured guys, and so 106 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 5: I was kind of referring to like debo maybe getting 107 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 5: more connection time to go. But as far as like 108 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 5: where I'm at, I also like, I'm aware things happen, 109 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 5: you know, and you adjust, and that's kind of what 110 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 5: coaching is, you know, and you don't have your full 111 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 5: roster all the time. 112 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: Mike has ended his hold in from the show about 113 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: five minutes in here Mike, Terry McLaurin and the Commanders. 114 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: This one has also played up publicly. There's been a 115 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: recent trade request. It's obvious everybody acknowledges that Terry McLaurin 116 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: needs to get an upgrade on his contract, But there's 117 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: a difference between everyone acknowledging, Hey, he does deserves more money, 118 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: and how much more money that actually is? 119 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 6: Where do we stand right now? For what you understand 120 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 6: and w wasthed it? Yeah, I wasn't asking for more money. 121 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 6: I just went to a parking spot. Chris Brown, I'm 122 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 6: at Giants. Chris Brown's playing MetLife Stadium the night. Who 123 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 6: knew Chris Brown? Still a thing? All those people knew. 124 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 6: So if you sell a car driving over grass and 125 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 6: medians and curbs, you're probably cursing me out. I'm sorry, 126 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 6: I wasn't going where you're going. I'll make it up 127 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 6: to you have a spot for you in about fifty 128 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 6: four minutes. As for Terry McLaren, that conversation that he 129 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 6: had with Adam Peters on the field today at Camp, 130 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 6: a lot of folks said, oh, that's great. 131 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 2: Look at that. They're communicating. They've been communicating. 132 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 6: Let's not forget Terry McLaren hugged owner Josh Harris the 133 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 6: day that we were at camp there. This is not 134 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 6: something where they're just walking through the hallways and giving 135 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 6: each other dirty looks and obscene gestures. I mean, this 136 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 6: has been a professional thing the whole time. It's just business. Tom, 137 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 6: you talked about the numbers for James Cook. Terry McLaren 138 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 6: is looking at a wide receiver market that's up to 139 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 6: forty million dollars per year. He ain't looking for that, 140 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 6: I can promise you he's not looking for top of 141 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 6: the market. But he went somewhere a little bit lower 142 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 6: than that. We saw DK metcalf come in the mid thirties. 143 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 6: So Terry McLaurin looking for something more in that neighborhood. 144 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 6: Washington has been obviously well below that so this conversation, sure, 145 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 6: this is all good. His presence, it's all good. But 146 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 6: like you said, Tom, there is no close until this 147 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 6: thing gets done. And I don't get the sense that 148 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 6: they are close until this thing gets done. 149 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: We are not close. 150 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 4: This has been like the most respectful holdout hold in 151 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 4: I've ever seen. The reporters who were there at Commander's 152 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 4: practice today said that that conversation that we just saw 153 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 4: on tape there ended with the GM patting him on 154 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 4: the back. So that's how nice everybody's being. Fact of 155 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 4: the matter is they need Terry McLaurin. As the practice 156 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 4: today showed. They had like an intrasquad game Burgundy versus Gold, 157 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 4: and the reports from that game are that the defense, 158 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 4: the first team defense, completely shut out the first team offense. 159 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 4: Jayden Daniels could not get any going Jade and Daniels 160 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 4: apparently had one of his worst practices of the summer. 161 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 4: That is part of the problem that without Terry mcluurin, 162 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 4: there are other than Deepo Samuel, none of the other 163 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 4: wide receivers have really stepped forward to seize a big role. 164 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 4: So it's imperative that they get Terry McLaurin in He 165 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 4: is so important to Jade and Daniel's development and his 166 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 4: continued success. The fact that they are not close is 167 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 4: not great, but the fact that they have been so 168 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 4: respectful and so professional about this at least gives you 169 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 4: a hope that at some point they're going to be 170 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 4: able to have a meeting of the minds because it 171 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 4: hasn't splintered, that's for sure. 172 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 1: A decade ago, there was no such thing as a 173 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: hold in. Nobody did this. It's become more commonplace, but 174 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: you'd be hard pressed to find a lot of years 175 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: where you're sitting there August twelfth, left and four weeks 176 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: out from week one, and you got five of them. 177 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: At least. There's some other ones that are questionable. The 178 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: guys have real injuries. Are they choosing not to practice? 179 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: But James Cook, Terry mclaur and Michael Parsons, we'll talk 180 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: about that a little later on with Jane Slater. Trey 181 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: Henderson that one's been at a standoff since he reported 182 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: about a week INDO camp, and then Cam Hayward coming 183 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: out publicly yesterday and saying just one year after he 184 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: signed a new three year deal, he again wants his 185 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: contract upgraded. Here has not been fully participating through the 186 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: course of training camp. So five situations with five pretty 187 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: big name players to keep an eye on. No bigger 188 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: name right now in Green Bay than Jordan Love, who, 189 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: on this play right here where he kind of got 190 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: sandwiched in the preseason oper ended up suffering what was 191 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: described as. 192 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: A ligament issue in his thumb. 193 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: He is now set to go undergo surgery that happened 194 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: earlier on this morning. GM Brian Goodakoons doesn't sound all 195 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: that concern. 196 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 7: Jordan is having a little procedure done on his left 197 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 7: thumb that he heard in the game. 198 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: We'll put him out a little bit a while. 199 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 7: Hope I'm back at practice next week and shouldn't miss 200 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 7: any reglar season time. 201 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: The hope is the Jordan Love will be back on 202 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: the field in about a week or so. The hope 203 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: is that Matthew Stafford was going to only miss a 204 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: week or so at the start a Rams training camp. 205 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: Yet here we are still know Matthew Stafford on the field. 206 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: This situation ramping up and maybe cause a little more 207 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: concerned in the past few days given the fact that 208 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: Sean McVay had said over the weekend that Stafford went 209 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: through about a sixty five throw workout. Everything went well, 210 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: no restriction is going to be out there Monday to 211 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: individual drills, and then Monday came and went No Stafford. 212 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: Still no Stafford today, as we welcome in our Brian 213 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: Baldier to the conversation as well as Steve White. Steve, 214 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: you based out here. You spent a lot of time 215 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: around this team. The optics are one thing, but in 216 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: the building, what is the level of concern right now 217 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: in Stafford? 218 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 8: It doesn't seem like it's a ton of concern right now. 219 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 8: First off, the RAMS training staff is among the best 220 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 8: in the NFL, and these guys know Matthew Stafford. Sean 221 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 8: McVay is not a guy who operates out of urgency. 222 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 2: But that said, the RAMS aren't if they're not worried. 223 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 8: About Matthew Stafford. Possibly get in Week one, that's one thing, 224 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 8: but can he get through Week seventeen that's the other thing. 225 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 8: Let's not forget Matthew Stafford is thirty seven years old. 226 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 2: And Baldy, when I look at this, I just can't 227 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 2: think of how we. 228 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 8: Kind of downplayed matt Ryan at the end of his 229 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 8: career when he was around the same age with shoulder injuries, 230 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 8: Drew Brees the same, Aaron Rodgers the same look. As 231 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 8: you age, you don't heal as quickly or as strongly. 232 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 8: I think with Matthew Stafford, the issue, more so when 233 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 8: it comes to concern, is getting him through the season, 234 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 8: because this is a vastly different team with Matthew Stafford 235 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 8: and a healthy Matthew Stafford and not having him or 236 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 8: at least having him where he's actually capable and functioning 237 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 8: like Matthew Stafford. 238 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 1: So here's the big question here, Baldy, there's an unknown. 239 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 1: Of course, it's a low back issue. These can be unpredictable. 240 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: I speak on that from experience and not even play 241 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL. In the world though, where Matthew 242 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: Stafford is not ready to go, how big of a 243 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: drop off is it to the number two option, a 244 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: guy in Jimmy Garoppolo, who in a very similar system 245 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: we've seen play well enough to get to a Super Bowl. 246 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 9: Well, I mean, Jimmy's got over sixty career starts, so 247 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 9: he started a game for the Rams a year ago. 248 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 9: At the end of the season. They're capable hands, but 249 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 9: there is no replacing matt Stafford in his arm and 250 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 9: his vision and how he sees the field and the 251 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 9: timing that he has with Puka and some of the 252 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 9: receivers is it's very rare. His anticipation they're throwing it 253 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 9: to a spot. I mean, he's rare. To Steve's point here, 254 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 9: I'm not concerned. I mean, anytime you have a disc injury, 255 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 9: you're concerned about the health of the player, like that's 256 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 9: not to be fooled around with him. 257 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 10: They're not. 258 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 9: But at the same time, this might almost be a 259 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 9: blessing and that it's all about getting this team to 260 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 9: the postseason. Stafford has played seven postseason games for the Rams. 261 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 9: They've got a Super Bowl, they won another one, and 262 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 9: so missing time right now isn't paramount. It's not urgent. 263 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 9: I believe that if he sat out up until September fifth, 264 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 9: he'd be ready to go against Buffalo, you know, in 265 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 9: that opening game of the season. And so just because 266 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 9: of his ability to see the field and make every throw, 267 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,239 Speaker 9: he can still do all of that. But Jimmy Garoppolo's 268 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 9: next guy up. Tom They'll ride Jimmy if there is 269 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 9: any issues this year. He's been really very healthy. Talking 270 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 9: about Stafford, very healthy the last two years, a lot 271 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 9: of playoff appearances, six playoff games the last two years, 272 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 9: and a Super Bowl. So he has figured out how 273 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 9: to manage the season. That's what they're trying to do 274 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 9: right now. 275 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: As Sean McVay said on Monday, when I asked about 276 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: the possibility surgery, that's not been any part of the conversation. 277 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: If some of this did become long term and the 278 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: coaches weren't comfortable with Jimmy Garoppolo, there is a guy 279 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 1: in Atlanta who's had some success playing this exact offense, 280 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: is currently making twenty seven point five million dollars as 281 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: a backup. We'll stay tuned on that. We are still 282 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: looking back here, Balty. We have not talked to you 283 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: since Week one of the preseason ended. 284 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 2: Here. 285 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: What's your biggest takeaway? What were you saying coming out 286 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: of that first week? 287 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 9: Well, you know, the team that I saw in my 288 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 9: training camp tour was and the best team I saw 289 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 9: was Baltimore. And when you watch Baltimore and you watch 290 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 9: him practice, and you know obviously Lamar and Derrick Henry 291 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 9: and you know all the big names, but this Mike Green, 292 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 9: the rookie Mike Green, Marshall, their second round pick who 293 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 9: fell to them because of some off the field issues 294 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:05,119 Speaker 9: in college. 295 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 2: I mean I watched him. 296 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 9: He played thirty three snaps in the opening preseason game, 297 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 9: and he threw every kind of pass rush move you 298 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 9: could throw at somebody. I saw five different moves like 299 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 9: he had no fear, Like this spin right there, obviously 300 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 9: against Ohio State was caught a lot of people's eyes. 301 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 9: But I saw him spin. I saw him speed, the power. 302 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 9: I saw him dip and rip, I saw him crosschop. 303 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 9: I mean, he was not afraid to throw his repertoire 304 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 9: in the preseason, and it caught my eye because he's 305 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 9: being coached by Chuck Smith, who's a great pass rush 306 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 9: specialist coach to begin with. He's in an organization that 307 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 9: recognizes what a true edge pass rusher looks like. They 308 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 9: led the league in sacks two years ago in this 309 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 9: type of defense. I just think that he's got a 310 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 9: very bright future. Sometimes it takes a rookie defensive lineman 311 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 9: a red shirt year to figure it out, but I'm 312 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 9: not going to be surprised if he has success this 313 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 9: year with his ability. 314 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 2: Right now, Baldy, I love you talking about edge. You guys. 315 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 8: That means I get to talk about offensive lineman. And 316 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 8: I want to go to the Minnesota Vikings because in 317 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 8: watching their preseason game, first off, JJ McCarthy coming back, 318 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 8: he looked very clean thirteen play opening drive. 319 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 2: In their series. 320 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 8: But let's go guard center guard all three new players, 321 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 8: right They've got Will Fryes, the rookie Donovan Scott and 322 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 8: then Ryan Kelly and Bawd. You know this, More and 323 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 8: more teams are building their team guard to guard guard 324 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 8: center guard, and they look real solid right there. So 325 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 8: that's a good thing for McCarthy. You're seeing it bouncing 326 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 8: it a little bit here, but this is going to 327 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 8: help their run game. This is going to stop some 328 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 8: those a gap blat a gap blitzes that teams like 329 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 8: to get through. And I also want to make a 330 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 8: note on the other side of the ball. One thing 331 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 8: the Vikings do well is they're undrafted free agent takes. 332 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 8: Elijah Williams upper ninety nine, the defensive tackle out of 333 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 8: Morgan State, the MIAC Defensive Player of the Year, showed 334 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 8: up two tackles, two quarterback hits, someone to keep an 335 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 8: eye on. To add to depth of a very strong 336 00:15:58,920 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 8: defensive front. 337 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: Hard Grave, Jonathan Allen together editions. They're trying to build it. 338 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: This is what they analyzed in the offseason was we 339 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: need to get bigger and more physical on the interior 340 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: of booth lines. There's been a lot of money to 341 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: do it. We'll see how that shakes. We get to 342 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: the real thing. Monday Night football in week one. 343 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 2: And half for the. 344 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 11: Giants back to throw Dart out of the shotgun, goes 345 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 11: to the left side, touchdown Giants, but. 346 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 2: Jordan Huckphrey pulling it in. 347 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 11: And Jackson dot Texas Steel on his big blue Korea 348 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 11: said hey, that's it. 349 00:16:54,400 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: There's let's do it again. Go through first touch past 350 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 2: bringing down Darty. He love you all boys, now step stacking. 351 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: Here we go big. 352 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 4: All four Giants quarterbacks played last week and pretty good 353 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 4: outing by all of them. Of course, that is the past, 354 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 4: the touchdown pass that everybody is talking about Jackson Dart. 355 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 2: Here is Brian Dabele on his rookie quarterback. 356 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 12: Just to continue to improve, be some good learning experiences 357 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 12: like there for every practice or every preseason game, and 358 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 12: go out there and compete and you know, probably make 359 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 12: some mistakes, learn from them and continue to grow everything. 360 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 12: Every practice every preseason game, every joint practice is important, 361 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 12: particularly for a young quarterback. 362 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 4: Mike and Baldy join me, Judy Batista. All right, Mike, 363 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 4: you and I were out at the Giants a few times. 364 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 4: We know how excited they are about Russell Wilson and 365 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 4: Jackson Dart. Russ is the current starter. Jackson Dart they 366 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 4: hope is the future starter. But they've got four guys 367 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 4: on the roster right now. How does all of this shakeout, Judy? 368 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 6: I mean, you're gonna have to make a tough decision 369 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 6: at some point if you're the Giants, because let's say 370 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 6: it's Tommy DeVito, who's fourth in the pecking order right now, 371 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 6: a guy that has won games for your franchise before. 372 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 6: I mean potentially, and there are teams with some quarterback 373 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 6: needs out there. This could be a cutdown day type 374 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 6: of thing, and maybe some kind of a pick swap 375 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 6: and you're getting some value. I know that there's been 376 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 6: people talking about Jamis, but I know they love what 377 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 6: Jamis brings to this building, what Jamis brings to that 378 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 6: quarterback room, So I just don't see them moving him 379 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 6: at that point. 380 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 2: So maybe you get. 381 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,719 Speaker 6: Some value for DeVito, or maybe you've got to move 382 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 6: on from him, and he needs to get a fresh 383 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 6: start somewhere else. 384 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 2: But I know that when they're looking at Jackson Dart. 385 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 6: Right now and Jamis was listed as the two, could 386 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 6: Dart show them enough or has he showed them enough? 387 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:44,719 Speaker 2: And can he continue to do that? 388 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 6: Baldy to say, this is a guy that you're confident 389 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 6: in as your number two, that if something happens to 390 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 6: Russell Wilson early in the season, that you can go 391 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 6: right to Jackson Dart. 392 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 2: Can he show that. 393 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 6: He's able to run the operation as smoothly as he 394 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 6: did in Buffalo. He gonna be a challenge for him 395 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 6: the next couple of games here. 396 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 9: Well, he played thirty snaps Mike, and you know, obviously 397 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 9: in a second drive he threw the touchdown to little 398 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 9: Jordan Humphrey. It was a great throw and he got 399 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 9: hit on the play. He stood tall in the pocket, 400 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 9: took the hit. I don't even think he saw the 401 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 9: completion he was on the ground. However, he did a 402 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 9: great job of taking care of the ball, protecting the 403 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 9: ball under pressure, navigating the pocket for some scrambles, led 404 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 9: the team in rushing with three scrambles. He did a 405 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 9: lot of good things, and so you know what Mike 406 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 9: said in what Brian Dables said was, you know, continue 407 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 9: to improve. Everybody wants to see him this weekend. I'm 408 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 9: going to see himorrow morning with a scrimmage to the Jets. 409 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 9: I'm looking forward to seeing just how he practices, if 410 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 9: some of the things we saw on tape this weekend 411 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 9: carry over to the practice field and then carry over 412 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,959 Speaker 9: to the preseason game against the Jets. But there's a 413 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 9: lot of optimism because of all the little things that 414 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 9: he did, protecting the ball, navigating the pocket, not taking 415 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 9: off when protection broke down a little bit. 416 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 2: I thought it was really. 417 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 9: Really a clean game on his part and a reason 418 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 9: why I think every Giant fan is excited at this point. 419 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 9: And the fact that he broke the team down one, two, three, 420 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 9: Go Blue. I mean, that's got to be a good 421 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 9: feeling right there in that locker room amongst a lot 422 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 9: of veteran players. 423 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 4: All Right, the Giants and Jets are actually having joint practices. 424 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 4: They had one today, they will have one tomorrow, and 425 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 4: then of course they play the Giants Jets game this weekend. 426 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 2: So let's talk about the Jets. 427 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 4: They have a new quarterback too, and he did pretty 428 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 4: well in week one. Also Justin Fields. Here's Aaron Glenn 429 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 4: on his quarterback. 430 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 13: It seemed like I keep telling you guys the same 431 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 13: thing every day about who he is. He's a mature 432 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 13: man and the outside noise does not bother him. And 433 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 13: I don't know how many times I got to say this, 434 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 13: but it's not going to change with him. He's going 435 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 13: to continue to get better and better and better and 436 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 13: not allow anything on the outside to bother him and 437 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 13: just do his job and keep improving. 438 00:20:58,200 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 10: Man, those are. 439 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 13: Like, really some trace that I liked about him, that 440 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 13: he's just unphased and he's always. 441 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 4: Here, all right, Pauldi, you and I were out there 442 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 4: back together weekend at the Jets, so we got an 443 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 4: early glimpse of Justin Fields. Where were your impressions of 444 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 4: how he and the offense operated this weekend? 445 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: Well? 446 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 9: The offensive line played well. Joe Tipman played left guard 447 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 9: for John Simpson. He played very well. Armand Membu the 448 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 9: rookie played very well. They ran the ball very well 449 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 9: this past weekend, and Justin Fields was a benefactor of 450 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 9: all of that. 451 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 2: They protected him very well up front. 452 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,479 Speaker 9: Right here, he took what the defense gave him up 453 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 9: in lambeau Field finished the drive off with this scramble 454 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 9: right here of thirteen yards for a touchdown. AG knows 455 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 9: coach Aaron Glenn knows that he could do this. He 456 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 9: did this as the Chicago Bear against the Lions quite 457 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 9: a bit. But I thought he saw the field very well. 458 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 9: He took what the defense gave him. It was a 459 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 9: very productive opening drive there, and I thought the offensive 460 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 9: line really played well as a group. And you could 461 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 9: see that right side of Ali Vera Tucker along with 462 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 9: armand Membu. You can see the development and the timing 463 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 9: between those two players right there. And then you know, 464 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 9: Josh Myers is a competition at center right now. Josh 465 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 9: looked very good. He was former Green Bay Packers starting center. 466 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 9: He was in there this weekend. But I thought the 467 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 9: group played real well, including the tight ends. And so 468 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 9: that's promising right now because if they can run the 469 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 9: ball the way they want to with three good backs, 470 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 9: I think that they've got the potential being a really 471 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 9: good offense. 472 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, and if he continues to play well in the preseason, 473 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 6: he'll get his confidence up. Their confidence in him. You 474 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 6: heard Eron Glenn talk about that they have a similar 475 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 6: disposition Aaron Glenn and Justin Field. Glenn probably a little 476 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 6: bit more fiery, right, and he comes from that defensive 477 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 6: my frame. But this is a good match and they 478 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 6: felt like that. This has been a good match this 479 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 6: entire offseason and into the summer between these two guys, 480 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 6: and they knew each other well. I mean, Aaron Glenn 481 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 6: a game planned against Justin Field, so he knew what 482 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 6: he could bring. And I agree with that, and I 483 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 6: know that they feel that about Fields is that he's 484 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 6: unwavering and he's confident in himself. Like you can have 485 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 6: your criticisms about Justin Fields maybe not playing up to 486 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 6: his draft potential over this first portion of his career, 487 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 6: but it's not because he melted. It's not because of 488 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 6: a lack of confidence. It's not because he can't handle 489 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 6: being a starting quarterback mentally in the NFL. 490 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 2: He can. And that's why they. 491 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 6: Feel like they've got a good base to work with. 492 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 6: And all these stops that he's made along the way, 493 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 6: I mean a. 494 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 10: Couple of stops. 495 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 6: There's my two stops along the way have only prepared 496 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 6: him for right now and what he is going to 497 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 6: be for the Jets. They feel good about their starting 498 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 6: quarterback right now and his performance in Week one of 499 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 6: the preseasons. 500 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 4: Cemented that I agree, Aaron Glenn has been high on 501 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 4: Justin Fields really since they got Fields into the building. 502 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 2: Mike Baldi, thank you very much. I know you guys 503 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 2: will both be back. 504 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 4: And when we are back, did you hear that Shador 505 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 4: Sanders had a really good NFL debut where you're going 506 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 4: to hear even more of it, and then Michael. 507 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:58,959 Speaker 2: F Florio is going to join us. 508 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 4: We're going to be talking about fantasy over reactions when 509 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 4: we return on The Insiders presented by Softcay. 510 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 6: Wack Todi and Saders presented by Sava. 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The way that he's playing, I 519 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 6: wouldn't say necessarily Week one, but certainly an impressive debut 520 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:49,479 Speaker 6: for Sanders week one of the preseason, and even Miles 521 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 6: Garrett was impressed. 522 00:24:52,560 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 14: I want to feel one of those swipes though, one 523 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 14: of his aggressive, like you know grabs. I want to 524 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 14: just see if I can get out of it. 525 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 3: Du you a good kid. I don't want to hurt you. 526 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 6: Can't put your teammates in the in the graveyard there, Miles, 527 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 6: trust me, he's impressed. Michael f Florio, I'm always impressed 528 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 6: with you, and it is time for Week one overreaction. Wait, 529 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 6: and that's supposed to wait till Week one of the 530 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 6: regular season. Well, I guess we can do that in 531 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 6: the preseason as well. Some folks already overreacting against they're 532 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 6: getting ready for their fantasy drafts. A lot of folks said, 533 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 6: Ashton Genty going to hit the ground running in the NFL. 534 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 6: Wait a second, am I overreacting to say he should 535 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 6: be lowered on some draft boards because of his Week 536 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 6: one preseason performance. 537 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 10: Ashton Genty right now is free falling faster than my 538 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 10: Mets because everyone knows that three preseason calgories matters more 539 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 10: than running for twenty seven hundred yards and thirty touchdowns 540 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 10: in college, breaking the PFF mistackle sports record, and being 541 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 10: the sixth overall pick right like, it's a huge overreaction. 542 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 10: It is three carries, who cares. No one is going 543 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 10: to remember this a week from now, let alone when 544 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 10: week one of the regular season hits. But people are 545 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 10: wondering where to draft ash and gent and I think 546 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 10: he is a good target in the second round. He 547 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 10: is going to be the focal point of this offense. 548 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 10: Pete Carroll loves to feed his RB one during his 549 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 10: heyday in Seattle when the Seahawks were at their best, 550 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 10: the Seahawks routinely were top three in rushing attempts. Chip 551 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 10: Kelly runs the ball a lot. He is my RB eight, 552 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 10: fine second round pick. But Traveon Henderson he is climbing 553 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 10: up draft boards for me. I love Traveon Henderson. I 554 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 10: will keep saying it. It's like he was built in 555 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 10: a lab to succeed for fantasy football purposes. He has 556 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 10: the elusiveness and the high end speed for plenty of 557 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 10: big plays. Strong pass blocker will get him on the 558 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 10: field in passing downs. Good receiver that should lead to 559 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 10: plenty of PPR points. And he is on Mike Rabral's offense. 560 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 10: Those teams have never ranked worse than eleventh in rushing 561 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 10: attempts in Rabel's entire time as a head coach. He 562 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 10: will be my most drafted running back this summer. I 563 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 10: have him ranked at RB fifteen and I'm considering bumping 564 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 10: him up. But I'm already the high guy on Trevion Henderson. 565 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,479 Speaker 10: You saw why last Friday. Make sure to target him 566 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 10: in the middle rounds of your fantasy drafts this summer. 567 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 6: Rimandre s Davis has still there expected to see the football. 568 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 6: But yeah, I understand your optimism on Henderson after his 569 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 6: Week one performance. I was in Baltimore for the Colts 570 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 6: Ravens game and I saw Tyler Warren catch three balls 571 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 6: for forty yards, and I said, you know what size 572 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 6: jacket is? He start fitting them for Cannon Ken overreaction 573 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 6: or not that he's the next great tight end. 574 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 10: I was in Canton this past weekend. I think they 575 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 10: were already sizing it up for him. Yeah, I don't 576 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 10: think this is an overreaction at all. I love Tyler 577 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 10: Warren heading into this season. It didn't matter who was 578 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 10: in at quarterback on Thursday, he was the top target 579 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 10: and I think that could be the case when the 580 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 10: season starts, because Warren is a huge target who can 581 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 10: operate well in the middle of the field and is 582 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 10: a yak monster. And that matters because both Colts quarterbacks, 583 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 10: statistically in their career are at their best when they 584 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 10: are targeting the middle of the field. He is my 585 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 10: tight end six, and I think he continues this run 586 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 10: of great rookie tight ends for fantasies we've seen in 587 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 10: recent years Kyle Pitts, Sam Laporter, Brock Bauers, Tyler Warren, 588 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 10: and then cam Ward Right the least talked about number 589 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 10: one overall pick in sports history. He looks good, but 590 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 10: making him a QB one in fantasy would be a 591 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 10: big overreaction. Look. I know he's got a strong arm. 592 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 10: He could run a bit. He's not going to run 593 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 10: enough to become a fantasy QB one like Jayden Daniels 594 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 10: or bow Knicks did last year. I still have him 595 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 10: as a QB two, a low end one at that, 596 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 10: but there is upsid here and what I love more 597 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 10: than anything, he is going to help elevate the Titans 598 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 10: pass catchers. He was targeting Calvin Ridley early. Calvin Ridley, 599 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 10: I have him as a top twenty wide receiver even 600 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 10: though he's being drafted closer to thirty. And then Chig Aquonco, 601 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 10: the big talented tight end there. He is a sleeper 602 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 10: in this offense as well. So cam Ward means good 603 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 10: things for all those Titan pass catchers. 604 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, last year, Michael f Florio, you helped me draft 605 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 6: my team, which, by the way, I think I may 606 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 6: need you to do again. We're Friday, I'm ready night 607 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 6: at seven o'clock Eastern. I think we have a show, 608 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 6: so we may do it live again. But we hit 609 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 6: on Jaydon Daniels last year, so you can hit on 610 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 6: a rookie and he can carry your team if you 611 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 6: get it right, and Michael left Floria often gets it right. 612 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. 613 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: With NFL Plus, keep the NFL in reach. Stream live 614 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: out of market preseason games, live local and primetime games 615 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: on mobile during the regular and postseason, plus NFL Network, 616 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: including seven exclusive live games with NFL Plus Premium. Enjoy 617 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: even more football with NFL Red Zone game replays in 618 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: NFL Pro. 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Joe Milton did so 620 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: many positive things in his preseason Cowboys debut that Jerry 621 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: Jones said after the game he's got to pinch himself 622 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: that they were able to get Milton away from the 623 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: New England Patriots seventeen of twenty nine, a touchdown, an 624 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: interception and a stake to the claim of being the 625 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: number two quarterback. 626 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 15: Perhaps, I think you know our plan all along has 627 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 15: been that we need to find out about Joe Milton. 628 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 15: And again, under no circumstance do I am I panicked 629 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 15: or worried about Joe Milton. Joe Milton played really well 630 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 15: in the second half. He did some really good things. 631 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 15: He calmed down, he figured it out. But I'd be 632 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 15: crazy if I didn't say to you how impressed them 633 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 15: with Will Greer. I mean, all the guy does is 634 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 15: when given opportunities, And like I said, we communicate very 635 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 15: clearly with our players. So like the scrimmage against the Rams, 636 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 15: we told them, hey, man, bunch, you drink some water 637 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 15: and hang out, and next thing you know, he's in 638 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 15: the game. 639 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Insiders, presented by Santa Tom Pelliserra 640 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: here in Los Angeles, joined now by Jane Slater Jay 641 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: And this is the first time in a number of years, 642 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: the Cowboys haven't had one of the more stable backup 643 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: quarterback situations in the NFL, with Cooper Rush having been 644 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: there and answered when called upon when Dak Prescott has 645 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: been hurt basia what you saw from Joe Milton to 646 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: what you're hearing right now, where do we stand in 647 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: terms of the backup plan behind Deck? 648 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 2: I think it's still to be determined. 649 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 16: Brian Schottenheimer was asked this week if he was going 650 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 16: to start this weekend who his backups were, and Shoddy 651 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 16: essentially said that he doesn't feel pressed to make that 652 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 16: decision right now. 653 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 2: He doesn't have to. 654 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,719 Speaker 16: What they're trying to do with the preseason is a 655 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 16: true evaluation of their quarterback situation. If you think about it, Tom, 656 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 16: you know you have OTAs with Will Greer and of 657 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 16: course Joe Milton, but you don't have a lot of 658 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 16: live action. 659 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 2: So that's why you're getting him in the preseason now. 660 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 16: Shoddy also pointed out he had his fastball, but at 661 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 16: times he needs to change it up. 662 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 2: That's what we've seen in the times. 663 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 16: I've been at camp, when I've looked at some of 664 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 16: these videos at some of the beat guys have put 665 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 16: out he's got an arm. 666 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 2: I mean it's a cannon. 667 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 16: I don't think I can say on air what it's 668 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 16: a golf term that Schottenheimer used to describe it last week. 669 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 16: I'll start it with a P missile. How's that that works? 670 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 16: So if you're familiar with the term and golf. But 671 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 16: the issue at times has been there, you go. The 672 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 16: issue at times has been his accuracy, and so I 673 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 16: think they liked that he just settled in a bit. 674 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 2: He looked better towards the end. 675 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 16: But why are we talking importance of a backup quarterback? Well, 676 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 16: thanks to our research department, I had him look this up. 677 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 16: Nine teams had a backup QB as their starter by 678 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 16: the end of the season, and almost half of the 679 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 16: league had their backup start a game at some point 680 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 16: during the season. And we have certainly seen in Dallas 681 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 16: Dak Prescott with some of his injuries, but also Dak 682 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 16: Prescott in his rookie campaign that twenty sixteen year. The 683 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 16: Cowboys saw Tony Rummel get injured and then Kellen wore 684 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 16: and then obviously that led to the ascension of Dak Prescott. 685 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 16: So a backup quarterback in the absence of someone that 686 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 16: Cooper Rush, who has been so reliable for them had been. 687 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 16: It's important to figure out who your backup guy is, 688 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 16: and that's why we're talking about him here on The Insiders, Tom, you. 689 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 2: Know, the backup quarterback. 690 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: When we're talking about that with the Cowboys, that means 691 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: there's not a ton of other issues, but they do 692 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: have one kind of big one here, and that is 693 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: Micah Parsons, who still is not practicing, has been on 694 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: and off the field because of supposed back soreness. Clearly, 695 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: he has made abundantly clear that he is not happy 696 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: with where things are at from a contract negotiation standpoint, 697 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: something that owner Jerry Jones has kind of danced around, 698 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: including last night at his Netflix documentary premiere. 699 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 2: You have bigger risk to paint or trade Figer. You 700 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 2: talk about risk, You know about risks. As far as 701 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 2: it is today, you've. 702 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 15: Got all of outs. 703 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 2: So there's Jerry. 704 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: We have not really heard anything direct at this point, 705 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: Jane in terms of the Cowboys even being willing to 706 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: consider trade talks. We know Jerry has tamped all of 707 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: it down. Where do we stand right now from the 708 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: team's respectives, well with Mike's perspective about the lack of 709 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: really even communication in terms of trying to get an 710 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: extension done. 711 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:57,719 Speaker 2: You know, this trade talks interesting. 712 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 16: You and I have talked about this offline over the 713 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 16: last two years Micah, about Micah and this possibility of trade. 714 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 16: In other words, there were whispers of it, but Jerry 715 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 16: was the one to shoot it down. And why was 716 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 16: MICA's name getting tossed around. Well, he's probably their best 717 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 16: player that they've had in a He's a generational player, 718 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 16: and if you're kind of resetting the team as they 719 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 16: did with Shotenheimer and some of the moves that they've 720 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 16: made in the off season, he'd make a lot of sense. 721 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 2: I mean, you could get a generational haul for him. 722 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 16: So trading him now doesn't make a lot of sense, Tom, 723 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 16: And that's because the Cowboys still have the rights to 724 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 16: his contract. He has one more year. They have two 725 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 16: franchise tags that they can use. Micah is saying and 726 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,760 Speaker 16: maintains that he has a back issue. 727 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 2: So that's why we haven't seen him at practice. It 728 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 2: hasn't been a hold. 729 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 16: In so to speak, but the body language on the 730 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 16: sidelines you can tell it's he's getting frustrated. I think 731 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 16: more than anything, both sides are shocked, quite frankly, that 732 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,879 Speaker 16: it's gotten to this point. If you listen to these 733 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 16: guys talk about their relationship throughout the last two years. 734 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 16: You know, I had Micah Parsons talking about me and 735 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 16: in his box the Super Bowl and bragg that he 736 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 16: had Jerry Jones's cell phone number, and Jerry bragging that 737 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 16: he's one of the few players that had the cell 738 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 16: phone number. So the question is, why can't you just 739 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 16: work this thing out? I still maintain we've got August 740 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 16: nineteenth to circle. That's when the Gambler comes out. That'd 741 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 16: be really good press buzz for the Netflix. And if 742 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 16: you laugh at that notion and the possibility of that, 743 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 16: all I have to tell you is he essentially said 744 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 16: what he has told us for years. 745 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 2: This is not me being tongue in cheek. 746 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 16: He will tell you when there's not something to talk 747 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 16: about with the Cowboys, he will find you something. It 748 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 16: is a soap opera around here, and so I think 749 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 16: it is very possible that we could still see that. 750 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 16: Keep in mind Seedee Lamb August twenty seventh, that got done, 751 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 16: and it was September tenth for Dak Prescott. So I 752 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 16: am still not pressed about this, and I find it 753 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 16: hard to believe that Micah would want to miss a 754 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:45,439 Speaker 16: game check. 755 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 6: I was at the premiere last night for that Netflix 756 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 6: documentary that dropped next Tuesday, was in Hollywood. Jerry talked 757 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 6: a lot about, and it's in the documentary, about how 758 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 6: much he values the marketing and the salesmanship of this. 759 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 6: So on some level, you don't have to pay in Jerry. 760 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 6: Right now you can make an objective argument that he 761 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 6: has the least interesting team, even within his own division. 762 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 6: Let's see what the next do twenty three days or 763 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 6: so bring before that season opener. 764 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 2: Jane, thank you very much. 765 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll be talking with you about this more 766 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: again soon. Let's keep talking about Tyler Shock, who had 767 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: a bit of a roller coaster debut as the Saints 768 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: at this time number two quarterback, the rookie second round pick, 769 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: throwing that ugly pick six, and then coming back with 770 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 1: this one, the deep shot. 771 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,439 Speaker 2: That's what they're looking for. 772 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 1: Kellen Morris expressed that he was very pleased with how 773 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: Tyler Schuck bounced back from that early mistake on a 774 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 1: throw that Chuck said himself, he's. 775 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 2: Still make nine times out of ten. 776 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: Sometimes the defensive player makes the play, as we welcome 777 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 1: our Steve Whites. Back to the conversation Steve, when I 778 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 1: was at Saints camp a week ago and get in 779 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: this game, it was Spencer Ratler the first time out, 780 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,879 Speaker 1: but you got to think the time is coming here 781 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: to roll out Tyler Shock. Let him go with the 782 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: ones or what's available to them of the ones, give 783 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: him an opportunity that since Draft day has seemed like 784 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: it's sooner than. 785 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 2: Last I totally agree with you, Tom. 786 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 8: I mean, frankly, you look at the Saints roster and 787 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 8: this is a veteran laden roster that's really built to 788 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 8: get after it this year, and so, frankly, I think 789 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 8: they should trade for Jamis Winston with a Giants who 790 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 8: maybe the odd man out with the sension to Jackson 791 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 8: Dart on that roster. However, let's go back to the 792 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 8: current roster and tylership. 793 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 2: We talked about the. 794 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 8: Amount of time he played in week one. He didn't start, 795 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 8: but he got more and more reps, right, so he 796 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 8: saw some things with some defenses, He got into the 797 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 8: flow of the game, he got better as the game 798 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 8: went a long time. So I think they're gonna keep 799 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 8: on ramping it up. They've got a joint practice this 800 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 8: week with the Rams before they get into this weekend's 801 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 8: preseason game. 802 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 10: We'll see what the. 803 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 2: Reps look like. 804 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 8: But again, I think with Shuck getting more and more 805 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 8: of them, he's going to get better. 806 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 2: The roster is built to win this year. After this year, 807 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 2: it could be. 808 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 8: Complete resets of getting Shuck started out as TV can play. 809 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 8: That might be the best Courseback and los Als remembered 810 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 8: a couple of months he turns twenty six years old. 811 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: He spent seven years in college football. Usually they call 812 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: those people doctors. In this case, we call him quite 813 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 1: possibly a rookie starting quarterback for the Saints. 814 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Insiders, presented by SATFA Our buddy 815 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 4: Chad Ryter doled out some rookie grades coming out of 816 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 4: Week one game. We were just talking about Ty Warren. 817 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 4: Not a surprise that he got an A. Chad gave 818 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 4: Shador a B plus, which I think is actually a 819 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 4: higher grade than Shador gave himself. Schmar Stewart, who held 820 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 4: out of the early part of camp, got a C plus. 821 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 4: But you know what, it's time to talk about rookies 822 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 4: who could use a well rested win. It's time for 823 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,720 Speaker 4: well rested wins, presented by SATFA. I'm joined by Steve 824 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 4: and Baldy. All right, Steve, let's start with you. What 825 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 4: rookie in week two could use a well rested win. 826 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 8: A rookie hooper form well in week one, and that's 827 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 8: Carolina Panthers wide receiver tenor Roland McMillan. He had two 828 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 8: catches for forty three yards, including a thirty yarder, but 829 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 8: he ever looked a part of the eighth overall pick. 830 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 8: You see over the shoulder with the boundary give him 831 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,320 Speaker 8: a tight window on a great throw. And then here 832 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 8: I think if he continues to grow, they're playing the Texans, 833 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,879 Speaker 8: so they got joint practices. He's going up against Derek 834 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,359 Speaker 8: Stingley and Petrie and these guys this week to help 835 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 8: him get better. He's somebody in the week two who's 836 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 8: going to continue to elevate and help out that offense. 837 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 9: Well, Steve, the guy that was picked right before t 838 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 9: Mac was armand Membu at a Missouri by the New 839 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 9: York Jets, and he played very well in his debut 840 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 9: this past weekend against Green Bay. You know, we knew 841 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 9: he was a powerful run blocker, and then you know, 842 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,359 Speaker 9: he got working on his pass sets there a little bit, 843 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 9: so he got his feet wet at lambeau Field against 844 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 9: Rashan Gary, some really good players. He went toe to 845 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 9: toe with some good players, a pro bowler in Rashan Gary. 846 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,359 Speaker 2: But I'm really excited to. 847 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 9: See him in tomorrow's scrimmage against the New York Giants, 848 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 9: and see him against Kavon, to see him against Bernsey, 849 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 9: to see him against Abdul Carter. He'll probably see all 850 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 9: those guys in the scrimmage and then maybe the game 851 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,760 Speaker 9: as well, so he'll get well tested against the Giants 852 00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 9: and some of the guys that will be coming off 853 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,760 Speaker 9: the edge for them. I want to see how he 854 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 9: stands up and holds up against some elite pass rushers. 855 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 4: All right, Steve Baldy, you guys deserve well rusted wins. 856 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:12,720 Speaker 2: Thank you both. 857 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,240 Speaker 4: When we return, we're going to talk about Taylor Swift 858 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 4: because everybody else in the United States of America is 859 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 4: talking about Taylor Swift today. We are going to join 860 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 4: in when we return on The Insiders presented by SOFTBA, the. 861 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: NFL preseason rolls on with seven live games on NFL 862 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 1: Network in week two. A new era is taking shape 863 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: with rickey classes looking to show out. Don't miss your 864 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: chance to catch some of the biggest names during Week 865 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 1: two of NFL preseason live on NFL Network. Blackout restrictions 866 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 1: apply also streaming with NFL Plus subscription required for NFL Plus. 867 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,240 Speaker 2: Such a nice color on you. 868 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 10: Yes, I know, it's the color of your eyes, Sweete. 869 00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 8: So well. 870 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,240 Speaker 1: Now, congratulations to Travis Kelcey, the biggest catch of his career. 871 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: Having Taylor Swift on the New Heights podcast. Everybody going 872 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 1: wild over Taylor Swift, who announced her latest album. 873 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 2: They're posting things in. 874 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: Orange, including of course, the NFL Game Day account. The 875 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns were called brown, but they got orange helmets. 876 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 2: Of course, you got the bird to orange in Texas. 877 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 1: You get the point. Everybody's going orange for Taylor Swift. Yes, 878 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: we got it. We got a controller of a lot 879 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,839 Speaker 1: of people. Yep, it's a lot. It's all the social media. 880 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 1: Everything you see, it's all orange. And in honor of 881 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: that Judy, none of us wore orange. 882 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 4: I just was thinking that that I actually have an 883 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 4: orange jacket I could have put on anyway. I am 884 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 4: very excited about this. I read something that the most 885 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 4: listened to podcast episode in history is one hundred and 886 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 4: forty four million views on YouTube. And the question is 887 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:55,240 Speaker 4: ken NFL fans and Swifty's break that on New Heights. 888 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 2: Next, what's the one mark four millions? 889 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 9: Mike? 890 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 2: Do you know? No idea? What is it? What's the 891 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:02,240 Speaker 2: one hundred and forty four million? 892 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 4: I think it was something like how to succeed in relationships. 893 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 4: It was something that was done in Arabic and English. Okay, 894 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 4: not as good as Taylor smell does not, so I 895 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 4: get asked so terrible. You can ask Ai that these 896 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 4: days you don't have to listen to a whole podcast. 897 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 6: They can deal with that. 898 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 2: It's I'm a huge Flyers fan. They popped up on Instagram. 899 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 6: They had an orange jersey with sparkles on it. 900 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 2: I didn't understand it. I just figured out what it's about. 901 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 2: I had no idea. I'm letting in on the joke. 902 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 2: So you learn things when you watch the inside it. 903 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: And here we thought that this storyline was going to 904 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 1: stop in twenty twenty three. 905 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 2: You grabs the. 906 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 1: Taylor and I guess Travis forgetting her on the podcast. 907 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: All right, we're back tomorrow. Send me of Eastern time. 908 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,879 Speaker 2: See you, everybody