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Speaker 1: Get Up, Get Up?

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Speaker 2: What is up, Mets fans? It has been quite a bit.

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Speaker 2: It's been longer than it should have been. Was really

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Speaker 2: hoping it wouldn't take this long, but we needed a break.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Mets Up Podcast, Episode number one

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Speaker 2: forty five. We're just gonna kind of talk about what's

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Speaker 2: happened since we last spoke, which was I mean, it

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Speaker 2: feels like so long ago. Now it's been the longest

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Speaker 2: week and a half ish of my lifetime. Seemingly, and

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Speaker 2: ever since the Mets lost, time has just been moving

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Speaker 2: in slow motion. It feels like so as James is

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Speaker 2: being sped by a BMX motorcycle seemingly right outside his room.

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Speaker 2: We'll do the typical intro stuff that you guys all

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Speaker 2: know and love. Make sure you're following us on all

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Speaker 2: we said, we are not going to anywhere this offseason.

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Speaker 2: We will be putting out one episode a week at minimum,

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Speaker 2: and it's gonna be coming out guaranteed Wednesdays, I believe,

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Speaker 2: is what we were rocking with here. So without further dude, James,

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Speaker 2: how have you been this past week.

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Speaker 1: And a half? I mean, you know, we've been together

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Speaker 1: like six of like the ten days, like chilla, watching sports,

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Speaker 1: hanging out, just trying to forget about the sadness. But

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Speaker 1: it's been a long week. It's only been eight days

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Speaker 1: since the Mets were eliminated from the playoffs. So much

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Speaker 1: has happened in baseball, so little has happened in my life,

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Speaker 1: our lives. It was kind of like acknowledging like the

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Speaker 1: death of a loved one, Like not to be dramatic,

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Speaker 1: but it kind of felt like that. It was like

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Speaker 1: he spent like a couple days being like I can't

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Speaker 1: believe that happened, and he spelled a couple of days

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Speaker 1: being sad. I got really sick. I had a fever,

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Speaker 1: I've had a sore throat stuff he knows.

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Speaker 2: And then I think, I think we just went through

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Speaker 2: it like Cauz, same thing with me. I didn't like

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Speaker 2: have a fever or anything like that, like you did,

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Speaker 2: but I like got super stuffy. I was coughing. I

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Speaker 2: think like both of our bodies were just like, okay, sick,

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Speaker 2: it's time to get sick. You've been so good for

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Speaker 2: a hunt for about a six month period, It's time

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Speaker 2: to get back to reality here.

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Speaker 1: No, it was like the recoil and it's just like

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Speaker 1: you pop back all of a sudden, just you're on

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Speaker 1: the ground. You're like, oh my god, that really went

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Speaker 1: hard for a second, and it's just kind of looking

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Speaker 1: up and picking up the remnants of the season, like

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Speaker 1: realizing what actually had just happened. It did feel good

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Speaker 1: that the Padres just whizzed past the Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: At least, yeah, at least you get that the buzz

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Speaker 2: saw that is the San Diego Padres taking down two

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Speaker 2: of the three best teams in the regular season in

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Speaker 2: the National League.

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Speaker 1: Actually, secondly, technically based on record at the end of

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Speaker 1: the season, the two.

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Speaker 2: Best that is true, we did technically have the second

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Speaker 2: best win percentage in the National League East this year

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Speaker 2: or in the National League League. Yeah, and the National

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Speaker 2: League's were first. Yes, if we're gonna do that, I

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to say, I just wanted to be

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Speaker 1: like petty and be like bitchy, but it's just it was.

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Speaker 1: It was cool to see the Padres win. It was

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Speaker 1: cool to see the Braves lose. It's very cool to

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Speaker 1: see their fan bases each have temper tantrums online whining

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Speaker 2: Dude, that's isn't that so crazy that because those two

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Speaker 2: teams lost, Now the conversation is not just is the

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Speaker 2: took the two of the best teams. Now their fan

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Speaker 2: five games, so seven, Like, okay, it's been like that

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Speaker 1: Hilariously, also, I'm it's like this is going way way

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Speaker 1: that the owners would deny that because that's more money

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Speaker 1: like it's so ironic. Thats like where baseball has gone

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Speaker 1: this is this the whole brace fans not realize is

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Speaker 2: No, I mean that would that would take them being

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Speaker 1: You're sad that partly really can't understand Dodgers fans. I

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Speaker 1: That's what it was. Twenty seven percent.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I get my bad. Sorry, Dodgers fans, not that much.

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Speaker 1: Don't over exaggerate this, but it's like if we were

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Speaker 1: playing nineteen fifties nineteen sixties baseball rules, the Dodgers, this

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Speaker 1: they don't. And it kind of brings up just a

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Speaker 1: let the body, you know, get cold here. It just

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Speaker 1: brings it's a fun philosophical conversation of like whether as

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Speaker 1: short series, small sample size, or the whole big thing,

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Speaker 1: because we've seen team like the Dodgers dominate the regular

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think there is definitely a undervalued value.

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Speaker 2: it does just make it harder. Like Yenci al Monte

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Speaker 2: Pitching Colorado for four years. It's the most important game

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Speaker 2: but people I think are going to reconsider how to

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Speaker 1: But like why we're in teams thinking about that beforehand,

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Speaker 2: And I think that's why teams haven't built their team

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Speaker 2: It feels like every team that made it was really

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Speaker 2: mean that talk about a team that did not have

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Speaker 2: any ceiling. I didn't. I didn't know what their ceiling

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Literally. And another thing that's funny about this is

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Speaker 1: baseball perspectives or fangrats like world Series percentages, no team

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Speaker 1: chance to win the World Series, like based on probability

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Speaker 1: So none of these teams really that much favored over

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Speaker 1: that like, I don't know, like how much you really

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Speaker 1: need to win one of these series, need your bullpen

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Speaker 1: that all year, and that was something that we talked

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Speaker 1: about a lot on this show as this season went on,

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Speaker 1: like we'll talk about how the Mets and Braves visional

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Speaker 1: we I at least was saying it for months, like

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Speaker 1: I don't want to run to either of these teams

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Speaker 1: in a wildcard series because they have enough to get you,

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Speaker 1: because the home run hit, there's a good starting pitching.

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Speaker 2: We really wanted the Cardinals. We were really the Brewers

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Speaker 2: would have been so great to sneak into the postseason.

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Speaker 2: Would have really really preferred that. But I don't know,

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Speaker 2: does it give you Does it make you feel any

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Speaker 2: better that at least the Braves and the Dodgers are

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Speaker 1: I don't think it'll make me feel better because it's

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Speaker 1: not like I never really cared what they did anyway.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to win baseball games. But does it

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Speaker 1: gives me a little bit of like warmth in my

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Speaker 2: We're we're rooting for the Padres.

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Speaker 2: And two, now you're taking shots that were unnecessary that

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Speaker 2: I was really really hoping they would have done more.

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Speaker 2: Give me games two? Why not? Let's get crazy. This

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Speaker 1: I know, Okay, I could, I just could be sacrilegious.

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Speaker 1: I think the I think the Yanks are gonna get

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Speaker 2: It depends on the Aaron Judge because Aaron Judge has

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Speaker 2: But I just cannot, cannot possibly stand to see Yankees

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Speaker 2: That's that's all love. But I wasn't really talking a

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Speaker 2: lot of trash, the Yankees, the Braves, the Phillies, a

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Speaker 2: lot of people. I'm so back. I'm talking all the

435
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Speaker 2: trash next year. Don't care. Good karma got me what

436
00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,159
Speaker 2: we got bumped out in the wild card round. I

437
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Speaker 2: don't care anymore.

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Speaker 1: I'm back to hate. Got the hate, gota hate, and

439
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Speaker 1: I guess we should maybe throw the round talk about

440
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Speaker 1: the Mets, like briefly, this is a Mets podcast. I

441
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Speaker 1: guess the one thing that did happen Mets News this

442
00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,440
Speaker 1: week was that Billy Eppler has his big press conference.

443
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Speaker 1: They were just I'm not I mean, I'm not gonna

444
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Speaker 1: speculate anything, but they were just like, there were a

445
00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,080
Speaker 1: couple of quotes that we should reference. Talked about Jacob

446
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Speaker 1: de Gram. He said they had a conversation that night

447
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Speaker 1: after Sunday Night's loss. He knows how we feel, I

448
00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,960
Speaker 1: know he feels was a good conversation. I guess that

449
00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:55,800
Speaker 1: means maybe they're bring him back, maybe they don't. That's

450
00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,240
Speaker 1: really the only of news even discussed right now. Pete

451
00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,960
Speaker 1: was sad talking about probably won't be back. That was

452
00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:02,920
Speaker 1: right after the game. It feels like a lifetime ago,

453
00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,600
Speaker 1: but so long, that's really all we got. Choey O'tani

454
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Speaker 1: went back Japan immediately went to the press how much

455
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Speaker 1: he didn't like Anaheim so on the table.

456
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Speaker 2: I am not purposely ignoring the Mets stuff that's coming

457
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Speaker 2: out now, but I also know how little it actually

458
00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,760
Speaker 2: matters right now. It's it's seasoned. Yeah, we're season we're

459
00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,600
Speaker 2: vets out here, We've we've been around the block a

460
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Speaker 2: couple times. With all this stuff that happens after the season.

461
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Speaker 2: It's I'm glad those are the comments. I prefer Billy

462
00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,760
Speaker 2: Upler saying that then nah, there's no chance, or we'll

463
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Speaker 2: see him next year. I you know, whatever it is,

464
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Speaker 2: it's tough.

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Speaker 1: It's tough.

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Speaker 2: There's not much that can be said, there's not much

467
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Speaker 2: that will be said ever at these things. I think

468
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Speaker 2: you take everything you hear right now this offseason currently,

469
00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:47,520
Speaker 2: when there's actual, still meaning, meaningful baseball with the tiniest

470
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Speaker 2: grain of salt, as small as you could possibly.

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Speaker 1: Get tenius tiniest. It's just it's gonna be hard for

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Speaker 1: Mets fans to block out all the noise shout out

473
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Speaker 1: our boy worthy, loyal, loyal friend listener. He literally like,

474
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Speaker 1: I hope, hey happy he's how now because he like

475
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Speaker 1: had like a bit of a scare, A bit of

476
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Speaker 1: a scare. Yeah, it's just and the Mets like just

477
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Speaker 1: literally drove him to the breaking point. So he took

478
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Speaker 1: some time off too, Like, oh, it seems like a

479
00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,280
Speaker 1: lot of the Mets creators this week have all just

480
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Speaker 1: love yes. And I think how many times we've been

481
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Speaker 1: tweeted for Mets up in the last like week, like three.

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Speaker 2: See, I don't think I'm not gonna lie it was

483
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Speaker 2: you then, because I don't even think i've touched met

484
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Speaker 2: stuff to a differently.

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Speaker 1: I mean, did you. I mean I think you retweeted

486
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Speaker 1: Jay Horror with j Horror actually right, yeah Fromwter though

487
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Speaker 1: that wasn't on my phone. Okay, I've read, I read,

488
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Speaker 1: I put out the dumb meme and that was literally it.

489
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Speaker 1: So each of us one tweet, one organic, one retweet

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Speaker 1: and in ten days.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there was a lot.

492
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Speaker 1: It was a lot of what happened?

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Speaker 2: What do you want us to talk about?

494
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Speaker 1: People?

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Speaker 2: What do you want to talk about? Like, like, there's

496
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Speaker 2: nothing I could say. I'm sure we sure as hell

497
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Speaker 2: are not going to talk about what happened. Again, that's

498
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Speaker 2: not gonna happen. We could have made a graphic with

499
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Speaker 2: that exact Billy uper quote, but not.

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Speaker 1: My heart's not in it. I don't know.

501
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,199
Speaker 2: No, I don't feel good about that one. We're here.

502
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Speaker 1: We're not here the hunt for engagement. We're here the

503
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Speaker 1: give you guys meaningful content.

504
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Speaker 2: You know, we're we're Mets fans, We're real Mets fans

505
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Speaker 2: out here. We want to make sure we echo that

506
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Speaker 2: to you guys. Still, you mentioned Jay's podcast as well,

507
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,840
Speaker 2: just dropped on with Bobby Ohta, So if you don't

508
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,159
Speaker 2: haven't checked that out, guys, you should. Jay has a

509
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Speaker 2: podcast where he talks to a lot of Mets alumni,

510
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,400
Speaker 2: really good stuff. He has unbelievable stories. Definitely go check

511
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Speaker 2: that out. And I think I think we might be

512
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Speaker 2: making an appearance as well next week, baby.

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Speaker 1: After some point in the future, so keep an eye

514
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Speaker 1: out for that. Jay come hanging out in the organization

515
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Speaker 1: this year. Like the few interactions I've had with him

516
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Speaker 1: old Timer's day and just like around like the cafeteria.

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Speaker 1: He's absolutely just legendary human being. Oh yeah, he's like

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Speaker 1: he's like the epitome of like like if you know

519
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Speaker 1: someone's like a popular person, they call him the mayor. Yeah,

520
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Speaker 1: j Harws walks around a city field. He knows every

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Speaker 1: single person.

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Speaker 2: Oh he is dud. He's shaking hands, He's hey, how

523
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Speaker 2: you doing, cracking jokes. He's he's quick and like, I

524
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Speaker 2: think the mayor is the perfect way. He's the mayor

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Speaker 2: of city field.

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Speaker 1: I like that. That was fun. So excited to do

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Speaker 1: that with Jay Soon. I mean past that, like hell,

528
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Speaker 1: we got god ds. I mean it was I didn't

529
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Speaker 1: even watch baseball for a full week. The first time

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Speaker 1: I watch the Divisional Series with Saturday, that's when we're

531
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Speaker 1: coming out, Yeah at your players, hanging out with some friends.

532
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Speaker 1: That was my first time getting back into baseball. I

533
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Speaker 1: had to make sure that the Braves were gonna lose,

534
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Speaker 1: had to make sure make certain of that. I had

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Speaker 1: to also have to make sure the Astros are going

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Speaker 1: to win.

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Speaker 2: Yes, those are the two.

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Speaker 1: Most important things that happened last week, and they both

539
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Speaker 1: happened so it.

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Speaker 2: Was okay, Yeah, ashers, at least give us a chance

541
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Speaker 2: to hate a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: And luckily I went, I mean, and I'm not gonna say, keep.

543
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Speaker 2: Going, keep going, Yeah, I mean. We had a great time,

544
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Speaker 2: a great great sports stage just in general between college

545
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Speaker 2: football and baseball, and got to hang out with Veto two,

546
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Speaker 2: our producer Veto. What's up, Vito? We know you're out

547
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Speaker 2: there listening to us from from beyond the stream yard.

548
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Speaker 1: And we should bring Vito back into because something that

549
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Speaker 1: we talked about a lot over the last month plus

550
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Speaker 1: of this season really really turned its ugly head over

551
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Speaker 1: the last two weeks. It became very clear and obvious

552
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Speaker 1: both during the Mets series against the Padres and the

553
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Speaker 1: Brave series against the Phillies at these teams completely completely

554
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Speaker 1: just left it all in the field against each other.

555
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Speaker 1: I think, especially the Braves special for sure, bet show

556
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Speaker 1: that more than the Braids did not not to wear

557
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Speaker 1: absalt in the wound Mets fans.

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Speaker 2: But if you remember, they were not playing well before

559
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Speaker 2: we played them in Atlanta. They had that good series,

560
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Speaker 2: they played poorly again after that, and it carried into

561
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Speaker 2: the postseason. They looked horrible. Austin Riley forgot how to

562
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Speaker 2: hit again. Like they just looked like a shell of themselves.

563
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Speaker 1: The Phillies kicked their teeth and then they're they're Tyler

564
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Speaker 1: Matzik went online to complained about a day game. What

565
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Speaker 1: a baby, I'm a world serious champion. I have to

566
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Speaker 1: play during the daytime. You were you play in Atlanta,

567
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Speaker 1: you are irrelevant.

568
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Speaker 2: Atlanta and Philly two major sports markets. The games are

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Speaker 2: reserved for the for the real franchisees. It's like the

570
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Speaker 2: fortieth biggest city and it has the most traffic. I mean,

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Speaker 2: hows that even happened?

572
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was. It was interesting to see them

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Speaker 1: go down like that. But it's just nice. It's just

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Speaker 1: it's so impossible not to see, like the parallels that

575
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Speaker 1: we drew between this this divisional race and the last

576
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Speaker 1: year with the Dodgers and Giants. Of course, that was

577
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Speaker 1: a little different because the Dodgers at least made it

578
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Speaker 1: all the way to the NLCS. Neither of these seed

579
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Speaker 1: has made it that far, and the Giants won their

580
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Speaker 1: wildcard game in the back of low with webs heroics.

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Speaker 1: But it's just it's it's so hard not to see

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Speaker 1: that's exactly what happened. I'd just like shame on us

583
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Speaker 1: for like Notre damis predicting it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know Vito's got this clip for us, So

585
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Speaker 2: if Vito's ready, we'd love to hear it, because boyle boy,

586
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 2: did we hit the nail on the head with this one.

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Speaker 1: Brads are just good.

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Speaker 2: This is like the Giants, just like the Giants Dodgers

589
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Speaker 2: last year. It just wants to see the division with

590
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Speaker 2: one hundred wins.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about that because I think there

592
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Speaker 1: are a lot of parallels to what's going on this division,

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Speaker 1: what happened that division last year, And I had a

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Speaker 1: Galaxy brain take today in the shower. Last year, it

595
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Speaker 1: was such a bad situation. It seemed like because whoever

596
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: lost so bad the divisional race was going to wind

597
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: up in the one game wildcard game. There's some kind

598
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Speaker 1: of spot there where you almost lose future value by

599
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Speaker 1: going too hard to do this division thing right now,

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Speaker 1: you know, And I don't know where that point is.

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Speaker 1: I'm not making that decision, not that there isn't even

602
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Speaker 1: a decision to be made, but there's just there's something

603
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Speaker 1: in between there that you almost could do too much

604
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Speaker 1: now and then ruin yourself later. Yep, I'm sorry, guys.

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Speaker 1: I mean you listen to this podcast for the takes,

606
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 1: I'm sure, and that that was for episode one twenty four,

607
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: that was the Labor Day episode, just after the Mets

608
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: dropped two of three to the Nationals. Max Scherzer got

609
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Speaker 1: hurt again right after the series win against La and

610
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Speaker 1: the Timmy Trumpet stuff. So yes, the fact we we

611
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Speaker 1: just absolutely pinpointed that riding on the wall right there

612
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Speaker 1: in that moment, the exact second that the Mets series

613
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Speaker 1: start to turn. It almost feels like me. You and

614
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Speaker 1: John also shout out John first episode without John since

615
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: missing June, with the weight off our shoulders.

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Speaker 2: I was watching hockey.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's working the Icelander's a big Islander fan. Johnny

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Speaker 1: a huge Islander. He loves the Islanders. There's nothing he

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Speaker 1: loves more than the Islanders. That took him to a

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Speaker 1: Ranger game as a thank you for this year last

621
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Speaker 1: week Opening night, and all he was doing was sulking

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Speaker 1: about how much he wished it was his Islanders he

623
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Speaker 1: was watching instead. But it's almost like all three of

624
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Speaker 1: us kind of in the back of our heads, like

625
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: a deep dark place in our soul, saw what was

626
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Speaker 1: happening and just didn't have the stomach to admit it,

627
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Speaker 1: not even only to ourselves, but to you guys as well.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even remember I said that. I thought that,

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Speaker 2: I like thought felt that that was organically your take,

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Speaker 2: no doubt. But I think we had it.

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Speaker 1: Before too, And I think that was just because this

632
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Speaker 1: is only I didn't know how far back to go

633
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Speaker 1: because I don't want to look to that many episodes

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Speaker 1: to find that clip. So I was like, I know

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Speaker 1: what I talked about when the Mets lost to the

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Speaker 1: September series, So I went to every single one of

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Speaker 1: those that went as far back in September, and it

638
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Speaker 1: was the first episode of September, so it made sense.

639
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Speaker 1: But that really happened. And the worst part is like

640
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Speaker 1: it didn't even seem like it was something that affected

641
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Speaker 1: them physically, because no one's workload was really mismanaged. Maybe

642
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 1: maybe some of the batches not having enough off days

643
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 1: down the stretch as possible, but like that's that probably

644
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Speaker 1: wasn't it, But it just seemed like it was a

645
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: real mental strain. Yeah, every like to be scoreboard watching

646
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: for like forty five days in a row, every single day,

647
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Speaker 1: like what they do would they do, how'd we do?

648
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Speaker 1: How do we do? And going out back and forth

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Speaker 1: and back and forth and back and forth, being so

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Speaker 1: worried about it because you gotta buy because the new format,

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Speaker 1: Oh it's crazy even like, imagine this with new format

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Speaker 1: this year, this is the first year there was no

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Speaker 1: game won sixty three. Imagine that if it was a

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Speaker 1: different year, we would have had a fourth chance to

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Speaker 1: get them, Like, it would have been really to more

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Speaker 1: if we did it. At least it would have been

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Speaker 1: a shot to do it. And every other year in

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Speaker 1: this in the in baseball that has been opportunity for

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Speaker 1: that besides this one, and I mean the Phillies when

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Speaker 1: even be in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: No, like, it sucks that we were so right about it.

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Speaker 2: And I think it does come down to more of

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Speaker 2: that mental exhaustion. I mean, one, baseball is a mentally

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Speaker 2: draining sport to begin with. Anyway, you fail seventy percent

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Speaker 2: of the time, and you're one of the best hitters

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Speaker 2: in baseball, and then you throw on top of the

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Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty two game season, and you throw

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Speaker 2: on top of how in a vacuum every single game

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Speaker 2: doesn't actually matter. But over a long period of time.

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Speaker 2: It does kind of thing. It's so mentally exhausting, and

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Speaker 2: I think what happened with both of these teams is

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Speaker 2: really that, like you said, they sold out for the division,

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Speaker 2: which is fine, and then got to the postseason you

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Speaker 2: were kind of just like you're trying, You're trying your best.

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Speaker 2: Both these teams, I'm sure, like Mets especially really wanted

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Speaker 2: to win this year. I mean, everyone wants to win

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Speaker 2: the entire thing, but it just you fought really really

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Speaker 2: hard for like six months, and at some point the

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Speaker 2: Padres who stopped fighting for the division, what in eight

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Speaker 2: they were just playing to make the playoffs, able to

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Speaker 2: keep fresh and kind of loose in a way.

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Speaker 1: I think, I think that's a big part. But think

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Speaker 1: about how loose the Phillies have been since they got

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Speaker 1: George Rody out of there, and they've just been chilling

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Speaker 1: out playing ball like that's it. And there's maybe there's

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Speaker 1: something to say about not really worrying so much about

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Speaker 1: the rego season anymore. You play one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 1: two games, But I don't so what whatever happens there

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Speaker 1: happens just got when the games when they really matter, do.

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Speaker 2: We say that tell the Braves that that was their

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Speaker 2: world series to win that season, that series there, and

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Speaker 2: it acted like it too, exactly and it showed. I

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Speaker 2: mean even the Atlanta Braves fans still think it's their

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Speaker 2: world series even though they finished with a worse record

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Speaker 2: than the Mets this year. Congrats on playing one more

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Speaker 2: game in losing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, better win percentage, Like, what can you say about it?

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Speaker 1: That's it?

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Speaker 2: Man? Oh god, this this should be an episode previewing

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Speaker 2: the NLCS. This is so crazy.

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Speaker 1: Ah, the imagine we would have done like five episodes

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Speaker 1: in between the last two if this actually with would

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Speaker 1: have happened the way we thought it was gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: But I got a I got a family friend, Anthony,

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Speaker 2: and he was like, wait, where's the episodes at I've

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Speaker 2: been waiting. I've been waiting to hear something else from

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Speaker 2: these guys, and I don't want to listen to what

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Speaker 2: happened last the last Sunday. I need a new episode.

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Speaker 2: We're coming for you guys, Like we said, every single

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Speaker 2: Wednesday now during the off season is gonna be when

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Speaker 2: a guaranteed episode drops. We might have some interviews, we

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Speaker 2: might do some other fun stuff here and there that

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Speaker 2: could drop during the week a little bit more kind

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Speaker 2: of random, but every single Wednesday you will be getting

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Speaker 2: a guaranteed messed up episode. So make sure you guys

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Speaker 2: are sticking around here, because once the off season starts,

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Speaker 2: we're really gonna have a ton to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but that is still a little bit away from now.

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Speaker 1: And it's also it's gonna actually be our first real

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Speaker 1: off season of doing this because last year was a

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Speaker 1: bit of an obscure offseason since there was a lot

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Speaker 1: of off season immediately and then we had to like

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Speaker 1: just make nonsense content about four straight months. I went

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Speaker 1: back and listened to some other episodes from last year,

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Speaker 1: such heat.

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Speaker 2: You think we got this job we're be crazily stumbled

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Speaker 2: into but also we deserved it.

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Speaker 1: We were talking to we were talking about my We're

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Speaker 1: talking about obscurity, We're talking about the minor league rule.

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Speaker 2: Five drafts for like nine minutes and I'll do it again.

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Speaker 1: Why do we do that? It's crazy? But no shout

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Speaker 1: out anyone know else to stuck with us. Since then,

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Speaker 1: those are some those some crazy time that was different.

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Speaker 1: Those are that was a different Matt and Jay on

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Speaker 1: the on the Mic Spade, Yeah, that was Matt and

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Speaker 1: j Now we're Mark and James. Yeah, yeah, and the

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Speaker 1: Resurgence Bandwagon from Mark and James.

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Speaker 2: Anything else to talk about here or thinks about time

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Speaker 2: to wrap it up.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna look at the AFL, but I just

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Speaker 1: thought even now, and I'll have any research done, so like.

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Speaker 2: Maybe, man, we can talk about that in the next one.

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Speaker 2: Let's let them have a bigger sample so we can

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Speaker 2: actually have something meaningful to talk about.

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Speaker 1: You're so right, that's such a good point. Big sample

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Speaker 1: guys here saber magicians. All right, guys, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for listening. Thank you so much for watching. You

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Speaker 1: know what to do.

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Speaker 2: Follow us on all our social media at met stuff

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Speaker 2: on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok. We're gonna have a lot

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Speaker 2: of content out there. Shout out to producer Veto. He's

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Speaker 2: making all these videos you guys are gonna be seeing,

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Speaker 2: so be excited for that. If you're listening to us,

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Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, ought to seed, drop us

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Speaker 2: a rating, drop us a review, download and subscribe. And

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Speaker 2: if you're looking for the YouTube video, go to the

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Speaker 2: New York Mets YouTube channel subscribe. You'll be able to

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Speaker 2: watch it over there. Follow James on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: At James Underscore Schiano.

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Speaker 2: And follow me at Giraffe Neckmark. Go give a listen

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Speaker 2: to that Bobby Ohya interview on Jay's podcast, Amazing Mets

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Speaker 2: Alumni Podcast, and keep an eye out for us on

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Speaker 2: there next week. See you guys next time. Peace out,

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Speaker 2: Get up, Get up, Get up,