WEBVTT - Ep. 749: 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:13.320 This is the me Eater podcast coming at you shirtless, severely, 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:15.280 bug bitten, and in my case, underwear. 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:19.240 Listening past, you can't predict. 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:22.920 Anything brought to you by first Light. When I'm hunting, 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:27.640 I need gear that won't quit. First Light builds, no compromise, 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:31.480 gear that keeps me in the field longer, no shortcuts, 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:34.840 just gear that works. Check it out at first light 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:38.639 dot com. That's f I R S T L I 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:45.440 T E dot com. Welcome everybody, thanks for joining. You'll 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:48.000 notice something new. My son Jimmy has been on the 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:50.400 show before, but he's never he's always had that camera. 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:53.320 You were on the show here and the camera was 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:56.040 behind your head. Yeah, because we had a prohibition on 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:59.560 you seeing your cute little face on screen. But then 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:03.320 you hit fifteen years of age, the arbitrary number. You 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:09.080 have a learner's permit. What else happened? 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:12.680 You have something changed in the mind of his parents. 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:15.440 Yep, Well he got to that age. 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:18.480 Well that's not totally what happened. 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:20.000 Oh did you tell me what happened? 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:25.600 Well, Jimmy was he went on a hunt with you 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:29.400 and you were going to share a picture of his hunt, 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:32.880 and then all of a sudden and I was cool 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:34.600 with that. But then all of a sudden he had 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:37.000 like a public Instagram account. 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:40.520 Yeah, because I decided that his age. Remember that remembers 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:42.880 that joke, the punchline to the joke I said, I'll 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:46.000 tell you the punchline when you get a learner's permit. Yeah, 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:50.080 just because that felt like once you have a learners permit. 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:53.160 So he got his learn he's just got his learners permit. 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:55.720 He's fifteen, and now he can now when he's on 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:57.240 the show, he could people can see what the kid 0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:57.600 looks like. 0:01:57.800 --> 0:01:58.640 Yeah, I mean, I don't know. 0:01:58.680 --> 0:01:59.960 The only thing that happens he got taller. 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:03.320 It wasn't like a decision. We didn't like discuss like 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:06.040 now is the time and this is okay, it's sort of. 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:13.000 It caught me unawares a bit too when that happened. 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:15.480 Just before being I can hide under a rock. 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:18.680 No, he can't. But the other two kids, so you're 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:21.079 do you think the other two kids when they turn 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:25.359 fifteen will like, that's the age that's when they can 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:26.480 have Instagram accounts. 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:31.600 Not Rosie, not the girl. No, no, okay, that's not happening. 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:37.120 The other boy, girl, the other boy. Sure, uh so 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:37.880 Jimmy's here. 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:38.640 This is this. 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:40.320 He's been on the show. How many times you've been 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:41.240 on the show, Buddy. 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:42.440 Hey kids Trivia? 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:48.640 Once and then I did one podcast in Wisconsin, and 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:52.800 then I did one Alaska, and then this isn't so. 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:53.600 Oh he's been on the show all the time. 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:56.240 Yeah, none other times regular four. 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:59.040 Jimmy just caught it. Jimmy just caught a nice fish. 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:03.600 This spring, jim me and I were out fishing and 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:05.720 and I hit a spot and and remember I said, 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:11.480 the water talk to me. The what's that Steve's big butthole? 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:15.880 The water talked to me and we pulled in and 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:17.720 I said, this is where the water talked to me. 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.160 You dropped your jig down and what happened? 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:24.040 Caught a sixty five pound holdn mm hmm. 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:27.240 What did the water? What did the water say when. 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:27.600 It talked to you? 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:28.840 It said, come fish. 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:33.600 Here, Steve, Fish fish, Steve, fish Steve. 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:38.040 That doesn't sound like the voice of Steve's Big buttle Well, 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:39.800 it's gotta travel through a lot of water. 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:45.160 After it comes up, it's distorted. Another new set is here. 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:47.680 It is that is annoying as it is to have 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:51.760 seth as a neighbor. Oh, it's annoying. Uh, I'll just 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:57.760 paid off, just paid off because people I had bought that. 0:03:59.880 --> 0:04:02.680 You'd think that would pass through two little pieces of 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:06.320 illuminum in a bolt hole, but don't. It's too short. 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:11.480 So I went to my neighbor and said, I need 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:18.760 stainless steel. I produced that whole pile of them. To 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:19.279 have good. 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:22.479 Neighbors, I'd buy those bolts for going through the chain. 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:26.240 I was unsure about length, so I got two different 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:28.720 lengths because I knew you'd hmmm. 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:30.720 Well you could just got one with more thread on it. 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:33.320 Well, I got two different lengths. 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:36.760 Well, it will always put them to use. Yeah, Yannis here, 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:42.320 Jannis ran. Uh, we haven't talked to yany since this happened. 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:45.600 Yannis ran recently ran one of those hundred mile races 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:49.760 this morning. He got circumspect about it. Is that? Is 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:50.960 that what it's called when you kind of get like 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:52.000 you start thinking back. 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:55.240 Yeah, when you're able to look at it from a distance. 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:56.920 He was sitting right over in that chair and he 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:59.320 got circumspect and he said, you know a thing about it? 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:02.440 And I thought it was gonna be something like the 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:09.599 mental gaming. He was like the chap ass, like you 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:11.320 just can't picture the chap ass. 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:12.800 I don't know. 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:15.400 I think that would stick with you, Like. 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:19.200 He said, crippling chap ass. There's no way you're going 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:20.800 to run one hundred miles without chat. 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:22.159 Was there something you put on it? 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:24.960 Oh? Yeah, lots of it. I use a product called 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:26.119 Squirrels nut butter. 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:27.400 Oh yeah, I've heard of that. 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:31.640 I think people use a product called body glide whatever. 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:38.760 Any some vasoline would probably working. Then it seems like 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:46.679 all the time. But if I had to guess every one. 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:49.920 To two hours, are you are you carrying it with you? 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:51.480 Or you get yeah, I have like a I had 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:54.520 like a little baby one, and I had started with 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:57.160 it full and I used it up to the point 0:05:57.200 --> 0:05:59.560 where at a later ad station I had to refill 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:00.560 from the tub. 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:02.640 So I got where was the bigger tub? 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:04.480 Traveling with my crew? 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:06.760 First off, you probably to tell people a little bit 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:08.640 what we're saying. You ran one hundred miles. 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:11.719 Yeah, at a race called the Crazy Mountain one hundred, 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:14.840 which happened in the Crazy Mountains of Montana, which is 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:17.839 I don't know, northeast of Bows when maybe ninety minutes 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:22.080 or so, depending on what trailhead. You go, Tom, Yeah, 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:26.120 hunter miler had twenty three thousand feet of elevation gain 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:30.520 through the into the entire course Mount Everest. 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:32.479 Yeah. What's ever twenty nine? 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:36.040 Yeah, somewhere in there, and. 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:39.120 It was twenty nine. There's twenty eight something. 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.960 Yeah, close to twenty long ways, anyways, that's up there, 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:47.760 and yeah, my first one at that distance. Uh, I've 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.760 done a couple of fifties working up to that distance, 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:54.839 and uh yeah. I started on July twenty fifth, finished 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:58.920 on July twenty six, thirty three hours after I started. 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:03.839 Thirty three hours of running, running, and hiking and chat 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:04.760 ass kick in. 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:11.720 Uh, not that far into it mile thirty So I 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:15.440 don't know, late in the afternoon, midday of the first day. 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:18.640 You know, chap asses, young Jimmy. 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:23.000 I can take a wild guess, picture your button. 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:27.600 Okay, going like that? 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:29.920 Does that happen all the time while hunting? 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:34.440 No, what chapass comes from? Some guys sweaty, Some people 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.080 just suffer. Some people have debilitating chap ass. 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:39.440 Okay, do you know I have. 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:42.480 Had chap ass? I wouldn't say I have debilitating chap ass. 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:44.560 And I only get chap ass in hot climates. 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:46.480 Be honest. 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:49.280 Is it a common enough thing that you would like 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:52.480 see someone on the side of the trail applying. 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:54.400 Oh you don't stop to apply. 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:57.440 What do you mean? 0:07:58.080 --> 0:07:59.280 What you just you know? 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:01.120 You your hand down there and. 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:05.040 Oh yeah, you get out your chap ass man go 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:06.720 down through or reach. 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:12.200 You go both depending on what you know. So yeah, 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:16.840 you might doclosure. Yeah, like one of my testes like 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.080 hangs a little bit lower, like I think, like it 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:21.240 does with a lot of men, you know, and that 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:27.720 one tends to just get a little bit more. So yeah, 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:30.040 I would hit that from the front, but mine it's 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:32.280 definitely start. I got a couple of theories because this 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:35.240 is something I had not suffered from at all for 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:37.319 most of my life, even though I had been a 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:39.719 runner and it had done some longer distance. 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:41.920 And it never happened to you, never, not even. 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:43.080 Kind of no. 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:49.720 Okay, and hold I got hung up on So one 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:53.160 of them hangs down a little bit, Yeah, and that 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:54.840 causes chafing. 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:57.920 Well I think it's chafing on the fabric. 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:03.480 But one is in his body's not. Yeah, yeah, Jimmy, 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:13.120 when a man gets all right, So that's how it 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:17.160 makes sure I'm clear Okay, here's your nuts. One is 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:20.720 like this rubbing your undies and his body. 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:26.520 Yeah, it is not. It's sitting high enough something something's different, you. 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:31.040 Know, wouldn't like like sport underwear change that. 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:34.840 Yeah, And honestly sometimes I try to like jack everything 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:38.000 up a little bit more to have more support. You know, 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:39.880 things are just you have. 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:45.520 To go Taylor, like I need to have a special 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:47.880 sense one side of my underwear. 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:53.880 Uh talk, So when did you first figure out that 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:54.760 that was happening? 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:59.240 You know it's some other race and uh, I think 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:01.679 it was a fit am that I did earlier this summer, 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:04.640 and luckily I had this little tub with me at 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:06.719 that time, because had I not had it, I don't 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:07.839 know if I would have made it to the next 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:10.520 AID station. Definitely not running. I would have like limped in. 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:13.080 And at the age station they have it because it's. 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:15.640 So oh yeah for sure, for sure. 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:18.360 What takes people like people that are in good enough 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:19.320 shape to complete it? 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:22.679 What takes them out? Blisters, chap ass. 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:24.920 Definitely those two things could. 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:27.960 Can take you out. You know who you know who 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:28.720 gets terrible? 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:28.960 Uh? 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:33.640 You know what is you're going to talk about? Who 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:35.040 gets terrible? Chap ass. 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:37.959 No, no a thing that where guys going through the 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:42.880 buds program. Oh yeah, the sand, the sand in your 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:47.560 shorts or the sand in your pants will people will 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.439 tap out because of it, because of just because picture 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:54.040 all those hours and days wet sand packed up in there. 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:56.680 Yeah, and they're like they go running for hours on 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:58.880 end without changing those clothes. 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:02.200 So yeah, it's thinking of that. It always seems miserable. 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:02.959 I never pictured what. 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:04.880 You're I have a lot of friends that just like 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:07.319 summertime and their thighs. 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:09.240 Women, Yeah, women deal with this. 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:10.680 It's not chap ass. 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:13.600 It's like chap thigh, chap thigh. 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:15.720 Yeah, and there's lots of different products for it. 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:18.240 And from when your thighs are rubbing on the inside. 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:21.520 Yeah, like just walking inches apart. 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:22.840 Yeah, I don't got I don't know. 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:30.400 Inches apart because well, you don't have like twig legs, 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:32.640 but you don't have a lot of. 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:34.359 Well I just can't picture my thighs. 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:36.520 You don't have like linebacker thighs. 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:38.840 You just like, no, you don't have that high ass 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:39.600 like Peda Linz. 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:45.040 Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, so I gotta I just I'm 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:47.079 so hung up on the chaca. This is just a 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:50.480 miserable feeling. So blisters take you out, chap ass takes 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:50.760 you out. 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:53.000 And I would say probably the next most common thing, 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:55.440 just because I've heard about it a lot and it 0:11:55.520 --> 0:12:01.040 definitely almost took me out, is uh nausey. And I 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:04.160 would say that that is connected to what people call 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:07.360 it GI distress, and I think GI distress comes in 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:10.760 many different forms. You could be have diarrhea, you could 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:15.160 be puking, you could just feel nauseated. But people start 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:18.320 to not eat because of these symptoms, and then you 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:21.200 basically don't have the energy to continue and you just 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:23.520 go slowly downhill until you tap. 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:27.920 So people are getting the shits from the running. 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:32.280 Yeah, from exertion, and from you know, if you haven't 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:34.880 trained on what you're eating. And again, because I don't 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.680 know the other two hundred people that started it with me, 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:40.800 right like, I don't know what they did going into 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:43.680 it to train themselves. But I spent time literally eating 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:47.760 dinner at home, dressed up in my running clothes, have 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:50.000 dinner with my family, and as soon as I was 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:52.000 done eating and be like, okay, great, I'm out here, 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:54.040 I would run out the door and go out for 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:57.320 two or three hours just to train like running on 0:12:57.360 --> 0:12:59.640 a full belly, hm, and like you know, like I 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:01.439 I knew that I was. My goal was to try 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:04.000 to eat somewhere around eighty to one hundred grams of 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:09.080 carbohydrates every hour, which most of it I took through 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:13.440 gels or liquid carbs, like a mixed drink kind of thing, 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:16.640 And so I would also train on that. But the 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:20.360 problem was with this distance is that it's very hard 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.920 to train on what you've at. It's hard to train 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:29.199 how you feel at mile sixty seventy eighty ninety because 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:32.720 you just don't have the time and just getting to 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:35.440 that point takes a lot out of a human body, right, 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:38.839 and so you just don't know what it's going to 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:39.959 be like until you're there. 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:43.520 Was there a mile that you thought, I don't think 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:46.240 I'm going to finish, And then was there a mile 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:50.360 at which you thought, I will do I'll do this, 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:51.000 I'll get this. 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:56.560 Yes, I the miles like seventy five to ninety or 0:13:56.600 --> 0:14:01.200 by far the hardest. It was a bummer too, because 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:03.840 those cames like kind of like the second morning, And 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:06.440 a lot of people say that that second morning, like 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:08.600 your brain kind of has like the oh it's a 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:11.240 new day, even though we didn't sleep last night. It's 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:13.280 still a new day and we're gonna reset and we're 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:16.160 gonna get going. And I did not experience that, even 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:17.600 though I was like in my head, I'm like, ah, 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:18.160 at any. 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:21.720 Minute, like some kind of circadian rhythm like y yeah, 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:23.880 cause you know, like I don't do it anymore. But 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:26.280 Neil days when used to drive, you know, you like 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:28.720 go drive like a twenty two hour drive or whatever 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:31.600 and just do it. Yeah, you would feel like when 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:33.880 comes yeah, coming all a sudden, you're like you feel 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:36.000 like something clicks in your head and you're sort of 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:36.560 back in it. 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:38.400 You know, yeah, you can make it another eight hour. 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:39.280 So you were just you. 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:42.000 Never got no no, I mean I might have, but 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:47.480 it was it was short. But uh yeah, I think 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:49.760 had I not had my buddy Stephen Brucker with me, 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:54.000 who was pacing me during those miles, uh, pushing me along, 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:57.920 continue to be very positive, a lot of just like hey, 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:01.320 we're doing good, like we're moving, you're it's great, Like 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:04.480 you're looking good, just like constant just all of that, 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:07.440 and just like hey, have you drank? Have you eaten lately? 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:09.440 You should drink some more you should eat some more, 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:12.240 and just like making me eat, you know, and just 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.120 and just keeping me moving along. Like I never stopped. 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:15.720 I would. 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:19.040 I did stop to actually take a nap purposely, but 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:22.400 I never stopped out of pure just like exhaustion, being 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:25.240 like I can't move any far and I can't go 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:25.840 any farther. 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:28.840 How long was your nap? 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:29.800 Eight minutes? 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:34.720 Immediately, oh hard. I remember like laying down and being like, 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:37.600 he's not gonna let you sleep longer than eight, so 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:39.720 you better fall asleep quickly. And I was almost starting 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:41.680 to stress about not being able to fall asleep, and 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:43.160 then all of a sudden he's like, hey, get up, 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:46.160 you know, And so I appreciated that my buddy Stephen. 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:49.680 That was with me. So he just washed you sleep, 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:50.760 oh yeah. 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:53.560 With a big smile on his face. But what was 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:55.440 funny is at the edit, like a trail at. 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:58.800 A buddies and they're gonna do blank mile to blank. 0:15:59.000 --> 0:15:59.360 Yeah. 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:02.440 So mostly in the United States you can't pick up 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.240 a pacer until roughly halfway, so you got to do 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:07.760 fifty miles on your own and then you can start 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:13.040 picking up pacers. In Europe there's like no pacers. It's 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:13.440 like not. 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:13.960 A part of it. 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:16.240 They're like the only thing they do harder in. 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:20.960 Europe than America, jummy, because they basically like have given up. 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:28.480 We still got just Western Europe as a continent is 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:32.520 kind of in its retirement. Okay, I know they're kind 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:35.640 of kicking it. You don't think so, no, forty, I 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:37.480 mean they're kind of wrapped it up. They kind of 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:39.520 wrapped it up. My friends just got back from Spain. 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:43.640 You told me all about it. They mostly people kick it. 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:46.040 He goes as far as my experience in Spain was 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:48.840 like people chill, they chill, they eat stuff. Not a 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:51.680 lot goes on that is Harrison told me. 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:56.160 That is a I mean, no offense to Harrison, but 0:16:57.280 --> 0:16:59.960 the observations of a eighteen year old. 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.920 Yeah, got did gospel. 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:07.040 And you're going to talk about Western Europe as a whole. 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:10.680 What was the furthest you ran prior to this? 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:13.840 Fifty five miles so this. 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.720 Was like you were going to be like double pretty much. 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:19.760 That's crazy. 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:23.119 Yeah. The interesting thing was is that the body felt fine. 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:27.160 It really did. I felt durable, I felt good. But 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:29.760 at some point at those miles, I was just talking 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:34.399 about like the fuel tank. It just seemed to go empty, 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:36.840 and even though I was like trying to eat, trying 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:38.880 to drink and felt like I was getting stuff in, 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:41.439 I just couldn't refill it. And the nausea was just 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:43.359 like kind of constant. 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:44.600 Did you grow up? 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:46.360 Never threw up? Throw up? 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:47.160 Through up. 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:50.000 There was a one time where I stepped off to 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:51.760 the side of the trail thinking like, oh, it might 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:54.760 be coming, and then I was fine and it didn't come. 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:57.399 Did it stay fun or did you get lost in 0:17:57.480 --> 0:17:59.920 this idea that it would never end? No? 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:02.160 Oh, I got you start to get worried of like, 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:04.520 oh am I going to finish because this race has 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:07.240 a pretty strict cutoff of thirty six hours, which is 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:09.440 pretty short for one hundred miles, like a lot of 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:11.119 races have more like a thirty eight or even a 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:14.359 forty hour cut off. And at one point Steven says 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:17.480 to me, He's like, hey, we're like not in a 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:20.600 hurry yet, but like we don't want to make it interesting, 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:24.600 meaning like let's not f around because let's like let's 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:25.159 get this. 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:27.959 It'd be such a just a bummer if you were 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:30.200 at ninety miles and they're like. 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:34.320 Oh, just waste your whole day, like a wasted two days. Yeah, well, 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:37.040 you can't look at it that way. It's not it's 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:40.400 not a waste. I mean, you've still accomplished something by 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:42.879 moving that far. You just don't get the belt buckle. 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:45.280 But some guy a couple of years ago literally finished 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:48.640 like thirty six hours and like fifteen seconds and they 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:50.639 didn't give him the finisher's buckle. 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:53.000 Oh my gosh. 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:57.000 I know it's a thing. It's been discussed, but I'm 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:59.359 saying no. When I out all the stands. If I 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:02.200 was that guy would and people go like, hey, I 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:04.560 heard you ran that hundred mile race, make sure I did. 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:09.240 Did you finish, I'd be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's. 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:13.679 Kind of like shooting one hundred ninety nine inch mule deer. 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:16.560 Yeah. 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:19.879 I just can't believe that you. I can't believe that 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:21.760 you did that. I can't believe that people do that. 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:24.600 That is a crazy distance to run. 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:28.840 It is it is now you we trailed. Every time 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:30.400 I say is, I have a hard time spitting those 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:33.479 two words out of my mouth. But we cleared trail 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:36.200 a couple of weeks earlier with a fella that had 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:39.160 done it twice already and did it a third time, 0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:41.520 the same when I did it two three weeks ago. 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:46.840 And he's a middle to back of the pack finisher, 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:49.800 but he's finished it every year but comes in like 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:51.960 he was showing me pictures of like his ankles and 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:54.399 his feet the first two years. I'm like, oh my god, 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:56.919 I don't have to experience that. I mean just like 0:19:57.640 --> 0:20:01.679 swollen in like sausage toe. Really yeah, like pretty beat up. 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:05.200 How do you know you're not like totally damaging your body. 0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:09.959 Ah, you don't. I don't. I think the most people, 0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:13.960 their brain won't let them get to that point. There's 0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:17.080 few people, like we're talking about this with learning how 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:19.760