WEBVTT - RHOA Recap: A Motherf*cking Mess 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.760 Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:10.239 I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:13.520 favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:17.360 and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:23.040 Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:27.680 Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:31.680 addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:32.920 scripted as well. 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:41.519 Once again we have Dust and Blue and Claudia Jordan 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:44.680 and we are going to get into the latest episode 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:50.040 of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, or. 0:00:49.960 --> 0:01:11.360 As I like to call it, Yo Mama. 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:05.759 For breaking the tension that I have in my own room. 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:13.039 Listen, this will be the most difficult episode I will 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:17.679 have to recap, but I plan on being honest like 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:18.480 always a pores. 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:21.520 But we are going to keep it real, keep it. 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:27.640 First of all, can I just adjust my neck? 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:32.959 I'm adjusting your attitude, Claudia my face because this is 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:34.560 I never wear a part in the right so maybe 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:35.919 I just turned my face. 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:38.160 Why you are feeling guilty about something. 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.400 I'm fe guilty about nothing. Now, look I said. 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:44.200 When I say it and it was a pregnant pause. 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:51.840 I didn't say it a right house pregnant pause on 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:54.080 the upcoming reunion of Atlanta Housewives. 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:54.840 Allegedly. 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:59.680 Okay, so Blue Laudia justin, I got ready for this episode. 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:00.240 Recap out. 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:03.120 Yeah, it is a. 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:14.200 List listen all right, So Raine Drows, please vote whether 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:18.080 your team Porsche, Team Shmia, or team neither. 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:19.120 All right. 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:22.800 So in this episode, the ladies are in Scotland, and 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:25.959 as we all know, Porsche and Phaeder are hosting the trip. 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:30.440 The ladies play a game tug of board. Look rain drops. 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:33.280 I love y'all already know what time it is. Y'all 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:38.079 don't care about me as you're recapping the Tug of boar. 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:48.799 So I'm gonna spare y'all recapping that the ladies play 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:49.160 a game. 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:50.400 It was actually cute. 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:51.240 Okay. 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:55.320 Now we're gonna get into the ladies sitting down to 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:58.520 have lunch after the game. As we all know, in 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:02.800 the last episode and Kelly made up, So Porsche asked 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:04.440 Kelly how does she feel today? 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:07.160 You know, Kelly's going through a. 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:10.120 Very nasty divorce at this time of the taping of 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:15.880 the show. It's also revealed to the table that Portion 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:20.480 and Kelly both agreed after apologizing to each other that 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:22.000 you know there's no beat. 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:24.639 It is what it is. We're all good. 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:29.919 Shemiah found down that moment, and Shemiah did say that 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:34.720 it felt weird to see Porsche move forward with Kelly 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:39.000 and not her. I want to start there because I 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:41.840 think about this recap as we get into what happened 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:42.400 at the end. 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:44.960 I felt that the producers did. 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:51.040 An amazing job feeding us moments that made sense to 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:54.880 where everything went to hell, right, So in that moment, Dustin, 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:59.040 I'll start with you when Mia found out that Portion 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:03.520 and Kelly apologize to each other and Porch is engaging 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:07.520 with Kelly, and Shamia made that comment how. 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.840 It was weird to see Porscha move forward with Kelly 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:12.160 not her. What are your thoughts on that? 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:16.800 I thought it was childlike personally, it felt very immature. 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:21.800 It felt as all season long, right like we've been 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:25.520 watching Shemia and Porsche dodge boulders like they're on American 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:29.760 fucking gladiators. When it comes to opportunities to have the talk, right, 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:32.760 they dodge the boulder. Everything that you think might sway 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.120 them one way, they dodge it and continue moving forward. 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:38.760 So I thought that of all the things that will 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:43.680 nudge you into this conversation, of all conversations, a little 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:48.520 bit of jealousy over your bestie right finding some sort 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:53.600 of peace and state of being cordial with Porsche is 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:56.240 all it takes to push you overboard. It just seemed like, 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:59.880 of all the reasons for this conversation to now be started, 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:03.479 jealousy over that and then calling your mom about it, 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:06.240 it just felt very childlike to me in a way 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:12.080 that I did not I wasn't necessary. I felt bad 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:13.960 for Sami. I guess that's what I mean when I 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:16.400 say child like. It felt like watching a little kid 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:18.960 get their feelings hurt, you know what I'm saying, and 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:20.680 then go back in the room and call their mom 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:23.440 about it. So I was just kind of like, damn, Smia, like, 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:26.320 suck it up, you know what I'm saying, and keep 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:29.240 it moving. Where's your poker face right now? So, and 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:31.800 I really wonder how Kelly felt like that felt about that. 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:34.440 To be honest with you like that would have given 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:37.359 me a little bit of pause with the fast pace 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:39.280 of our friendship, like why are. 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:43.440 You mad because we made up? I don't know, that's 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:44.880 how I felt blue. 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:47.039 I saw you nodding your head. Do you agree with 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:47.960 Dustin's a sentiment? 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:50.840 Did it feel like Shamia was acting childish in that 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:51.760 lim Man? 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:53.599 I think it was the And here's the thing. 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:55.480 I don't have a dog in this race, Like neither 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:58.920 to Me nor Porsche are people that I cap for 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:00.600 when I agree with them with them and I don't 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:02.000 agree with them, I don't agree with them. So it's 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:04.359 not like I have an allegiance either way, like maybe 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:07.000 you might or somebody else might own this, but so 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:10.239 I have no allegiance whatsoever as somebody with zero allegiance 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:13.520 who's just watching it super objectively and doesn't feel like 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:16.400 there's somebody I feel bad for. What was a literal 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:22.440 visual definition of misery loves company. Literally, I am in 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:26.360 a miserable situation with her. You and I have bonded 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:30.320 over our miserable situations with her. Now you've stopped being miserable, 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:33.560 and I have no company. You and her have made up, 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:35.440 and I have no company to be miserable with me. 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:39.400 That's objectively true. I'm not going to debate. If water 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:42.919 is wet, you are literally mad that she's not miserable anymore. 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:45.800 Quite literally, one plus one will always be too in 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:48.520 this household. Right, and so, as a matter of fact, 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:52.360 not opinion, you were miserable that she stopped being miserable. 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:59.400 There is something entitled immature and enabled in that that 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:02.400 already tells me this is a weed that's grown from 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:05.520 a rotten seed a long time ago. Something like that 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:09.520 doesn't happen casually. Because Shemiah is someone who's known for 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:13.800 being a good friend and holding space for people. My 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:16.800 first thought was, wasn't that, Oh, Shemia's childish and she sucks? 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:20.160 It was Shemia's childish in a moment where this is 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:24.640 usually her superpower. Being a supportive friend is her entire 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:28.120 effing brand. So if someone like me, like I'm a 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:31.440 supportive friend, clutter support is a very supportive friend, you 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:35.680 are like legendary for that and right, so, as somebody 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:39.320 who knows how supportive friends work, this doesn't make sense 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:44.360 people like us unless the premise has been flawed from 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:44.960 the beginning. 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:47.239 And the minute I saw that. 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:50.520 Scene, I made it a point to listen very closely 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:52.800 to the words that were being said in the blow up, 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:57.160 and the words revealed their friendship. In my opinion as 0:07:57.200 --> 0:07:59.440 a matter of fact. For right now, the premise was 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:01.880 a lie. Get into that later. But that scene at 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:06.840 the Puma Supportia and Shamia, to me, it was a lie. 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:08.680 I saying that. 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:13.120 Okay, so Blue is telling bluis saying to us, you'll 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:14.560 get into that once we get to that. 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:18.040 But she's holding up the sheet that Carly read. 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:20.840 Did O Love and Hoodpop and said, but it was 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:21.840 all a lie. 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:23.120 It was all a lie. 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:26.000 So brain jow, make sure we get to that and Lizzy, 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:27.840 thank you to Claudia Jordan. 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:29.360 What are your thoughts on Shemia? 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:35.640 Not because again I took so I took intricate notes 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:38.600 because I want to make sure I did not use 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:41.480 words that weren't used. So I want to be very 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:46.320 careful with my words. Shemiah said, it felt weird to 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:47.720 see that moment. 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:48.839 What are your thoughts on you? 0:08:56.840 --> 0:09:00.080 I think it will come out later. Yeah, But. 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:04.960 Like I just think that Porsha is a much better 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:10.640 reality star than Shemiah. I think Porsha made a great 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:14.560 move by making up with Kelly in front of an 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:18.880 audience and making everybody see think that it's to mea 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:21.880 that's the problem, not me. Look at me. Look at 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:24.560 even I'm even cool with her bestie. Now she's icing 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.920 Shemia out with the no allies and there's no one 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:30.400 left for her to feel like she has an ally 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:32.319 And although Kelly's so gonna be your an ally and 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:35.400 her friend, I've seen this happen in girl groups before, 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:39.000 and it sucks if you're that person that's Shamiya because 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:42.320 the more you complain and say no, she doesn't really 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:43.880 mean that, you guys, she doesn't. 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:45.440 Really want to make up with Kelly. She's mean fake. 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:46.880 I know her, I know her the most. 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:49.640 You look like a fucking bitch. You look like you're 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:51.920 a hater, like you won't let it go. You look 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:54.400 like you're petty, and who knows what the real truth is. 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:56.240 But I'm just saying that's an outside looking in. I've 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:59.000 seen this mean girl shit in groups before, where you're like, 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:02.040 you know what, I like you a little bit, I 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:03.439 hate you a little bit less than the other girl, 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:05.719 so I can stomach apologize and I make up with 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:07.440 you because I've got real beef for Kelly. Kelly and 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:09.520 her ports shit with the service, it's easy to make 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:10.440 that up so. 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:13.439 To me and seeing that, and she's like I know her. 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:14.360 I know her. 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:17.079 This is just an ice. She's taking everything as it's 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:19.120 a hit to her. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:20.319 But I understand in that. 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:24.600 Moment how Shamiah feels. It is Shamir right and everything. 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:27.400 Hell no, she got her shit with her and she 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:29.760 did go low on a few things one thousand percent, 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:33.080 but she is like someone backed into a corner who 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:35.559 feels damn. Before I had three friends on the show. 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:38.240 Then I had two, then they had one. Now I'm 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:40.760 all alone totally. Now she's gonna really pop off. She's 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:43.320 gonna pop off because she has nothing to lose. 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:45.520 Now she is alone on an island. 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:47.680 No matter what she does, people gonna say she's sucked up, 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:48.720 she's wrong, she's an asshole. 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:49.600 We can't stand her. 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:51.760 She's doing it for Cloud and I think that that 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:54.480 was a masterful thing that Porti did reality show wise, 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:56.839 to make up with Kelly in front of the group. 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:00.760 It makes Shmida look crazy and like she's magic. And 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:02.920 look look at Porsche over there. You know she's she's 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:03.839 the bigger person. 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:08.760 That's my thing, Carlos, She's seen that super chet right, Yes, 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:10.680 thank you very much. 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:16.320 Listening to thank you, Thank you to ever left just 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:18.120 left that super check. Thank you my love. 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:21.640 I was I was so enthrolled with CD was saying, 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:22.280 I didn't even. 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:28.120 Remind me. Hey, I kept trying to remember. I'm like, 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:29.959 what should me I do? The Porsche that was so bad? 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:33.559 Was it a big thing? I was a little because 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:35.079 I forgot. I forgot. 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:37.280 About that premise. 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:41.480 If someone that you are because I've been in the 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:43.600 shmi in the situation, which is actually why I'm being 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:44.680 hard on her, because I. 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:45.840 Know what it's like to be in that position and 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:47.559 you don't. That's not the only way to play it, right. 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.960 If I am cool with someone and they know that 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:53.600 I've been through something with someone, But we're in an 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:56.839 ecosystem where even me and the person I'm no longer 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:58.160 cool with are still being cordial. 0:11:59.000 --> 0:11:59.160 Right. 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:01.760 Porsche and I are so the same show together, Kelly 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:03.440 and Portia, We're all on the same show together, right. 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:05.679 So it's not like this is somebody who lives down 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:07.920 the street who we never see. 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:09.920 We already have some sort. 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:11.920 Of working agreement that we have to get along to 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:13.920 some degree to do this show together. Right, So it's 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:15.920 not like, oh my god, I'm isolated from her and 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:18.720 you ran off. We're in the same room. If y'all 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:22.240 make up. My first thought is, you know what, I'm 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:24.080 gonna let this playoffs so she can see for herself. 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:27.600 I'm actually not gonna say, oh no, she's being masterful. 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:31.080 I'm gonna let adults be adults. There you go, and 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:34.000 not put myself in other people's business and say, hey, 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:36.640 this is a great opportunity for me to learn two things. 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:39.280 Either Portia's gonna show her ass and she's gonna be revealed, 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:41.840 and now me and Kelly can bond even deeper about 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:44.880 a boast scene that she was revealed, or she might 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.480 have actually evolved because I'm not fucking God and I'm 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:49.240 giving her a chance to show she's evolved or not. 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:52.080 My thing is there's a hubristin thinking that you have 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:54.319 to be the person to be the town choir and 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:57.200 other people's relationships when you're trying to say here, because 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:59.240 it's the thing, let's be honest. If they're saying you're 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:01.400 not letting it go, you're not letting it go. It's hurtful, 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:04.160 but it's not inaccurate you running your mouth about their 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:06.040 relationship or you not being able to let them figure 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:08.000 it out for themselves. Is you not letting it go? 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:11.480 It's painful, but it's not inaccurate. You are being a busybody. 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:14.079 It's not my place. If Dustin is friends right now 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:16.240 with somebody that I fell out with, my first thought 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:19.480 is either my friend grew and Dustin is seeing the 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:21.640 better part of him that I didn't get, or Dustin's 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:22.960 gonna see for himself what I saw. 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:24.720 Either way, that's not my place. 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:27.000 There you go, Toma keeps putting. 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:29.600 Herself in these situations. She's back in the corner because 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:31.280 she put herself in that corner. She could have just 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:34.719 let them have their moment and drank her fucking tea. 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:39.720 I also think that again, Shemiah does not come from 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:44.000 a life where she's experienced certain types of hardship and 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:46.840 like their relationships with people in her life right, she 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:51.120 bravely shared some horrible experiences she had had within Eggs, 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:54.800 but like, outside of that, I don't think she's experienced 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:58.000 anything like this before. That's why Porsche was able to 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:01.320 stay composed at that table and be like, I'm okay, 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:04.000 let her go handle her emotions, and Shamilah was in 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:07.560 the car breaking down, crying, saying that's my family, and 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:08.760 you know all that other stuff. 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:10.320 She was rocked to her core by that. 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:14.520 Samiya is not a person who I just I just 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:17.400 think that this is a lot for her, and not 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:19.680 in a way that she should be shamed for. It's 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:21.880 just this is a lot for her to deal with. 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.720 And I do kind of feel like Shamia is getting 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:27.720 a bad rap from everybody. I do feel like she's 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.760 an easy target for motherfuckers to pick on. 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:32.960 I thought it was rich. 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:34.760 That I might be jumping ahead, but I thought it 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:38.880 was rich that ky Michelle said at the table, Okay, go. 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:41.720 Ahead, I'm gonna tap you into that because one thing 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:43.400 you did bring up dustin. You brought up the fact 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:46.640 that Shamia called her mother. So Shamiah called her mother. 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:54.520 After she saw Portia and Kelly tell they group that 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:57.520 they did make up, she mentioned to her mother the 0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:00.520 accusation that Angela made a bar sleeping with George. 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:02.680 Then they intercut. 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:04.960 Then you saw Pinky and came Michelle in the kitchen, 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:08.120 and Pinky's like, so what's going on? 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:08.320 Beto? 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:10.960 You and ky Michelle, I mean you and Shemiah. 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:17.040 And in this moment, you know, Pinky says she feels 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:20.360 that Samiya is fighting all of these battles. 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:25.080 Ky Michelle then says she saw this girl turn into 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:31.120 a monster. In that same moment, on the other side, Samia. 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:35.560 Looked at Kelly, supposedly off camera and said, I only 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:39.080 have you in this group. So based upon all of that, Dustin, 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:42.120 what were your thoughts on cay Michelle saying that she 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:45.440 saw Mia from her purview. 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:53.120 Turned into a monster, while Pinky is saying fighting all 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:58.000 of these battles, yes, maybe dealing with this emotionally. 0:15:58.680 --> 0:15:59.760 I thought it contradicted. 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:02.280 Well, we now know to be true because apparently Ca 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:04.080 Michelle is unfollowed Shamiya. 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:06.840 She's been making she's been doing what she does with 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:07.720 the kind of. 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:10.600 Vague tweets that allude to her having an issue with someone, 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.040 and you can kind of predict, you can kind of 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:15.080 determine what it was, what it was aimed at, and 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:16.800 apparently it's been aimed at Shamiyah. 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:18.160 I just thought it was rich. 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:20.360 I think the came Michelle sat back and watched how 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:23.040 they were playing Ping pong with Shamia and was like, 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:24.160 fuck it, I'm gonna do it too. 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:25.840 That's what I think. 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:29.120 I think that she doesn't have Cay Michelle doesn't have 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:33.560 as much respect for Shemias she does Porsche, because when 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:37.760 Shamiyah dropped the bombshell at the table in Ca Michelle's confessional, 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:40.480 she said, ooh boy, it's about to go down, and Porscha, 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:44.120 don't play about her mama, meaning that she recognizes that's 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:46.680 a line that there's a consequence if you cross it 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:51.360 with Porsche. But she was willfully having multiple conversations about 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:54.160 how Shamia's mama had her titties up and out quote 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:55.880 unquote at the club and was in. 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:58.200 Her face praying all that and shit she's with. 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:00.960 Cay Michelle is willing across certain eyes of disrespect with 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:04.200 Shemia that she's unwilling to cross with Porsche, and that 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:09.960 looks unbalanced to me. In your position as this person 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:13.800 who was unafraid of conflict and unafraid to confront, you know, 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:16.800 hot button issues amongst the group, I thought it looked 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:19.720 fraudulent and that's the pile on shit that I don't 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.359 like with Shemia. Say what you want about Angela's conflict 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:26.000 with Shemiah, but it's been here since the beginning of 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:26.520 the season. 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:30.600 It's not anything new to me. It's something totally different 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:31.240 to sit. 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:35.480 Back quiet, might I add, and watch everything that's going 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:38.440 on for what sixteen how many episodes deep are we now? 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:40.880 Sixteen seventeen episodes? Fourteen? 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:44.359 You know, to watch all this time and then shift 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:48.200 your positioning on someone who you have claimed to be 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:51.439 a friend, who you allowed to rally around you when 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:53.560 y'all were in Dallas and you made up that moment 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:56.520 with Drew Sidora. I just thought that kym mischelle kind 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:58.680 of switched on Shemia and I didn't. 0:17:58.560 --> 0:17:58.760 Like that. 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:02.040 Because, like, I'm sorry Colos. 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:06.920 The way that like listen, and I'm not okay with 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:11.040 anyone talking bad about anyone's mama, right including Porsche's mother. 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:16.440 Although okay, but like you can't have two sets of 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:20.400 standards where oh, they don't play about, don't play about 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:21.520 play about her mom. 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:25.040 But but what but tities was out to me? 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:25.480 Is mom? 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:26.360 Is oh fair game? 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:28.320 I don't think that's right, Like have I think this 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:31.200 was pissing some people off with this watching this is 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:33.560 there was one thousand set a double standard in this group. 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:35.879 And if you're in favor of the favorite and the 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:38.720 the you know, the star of the show, then and 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:40.760 I see all the people that had beef with Porsche, 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:43.399 like they made up with her, right, which I like, 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:48.000 I'm glad, but for some reason, to me, is issues 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:49.919 that people have with her, it's so much worse than 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:53.920 everybody else's. They've all done dirt, all of them, whether 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:56.640 they're your favorite or they're not your favorite, they've all 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:57.200 done things. 0:18:57.440 --> 0:18:59.120 But choosing to forgive. 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:05.640 Everybody else except Shamiah is obvious of a pack mentality 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:06.920 against one person. 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:08.320 And this is what was happening. 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:11.560 I mean, I al won't say what's happened to Kenya, 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:13.200 but like you know, it's not fun when it's like 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:16.280 six on one five like it's not it makes for 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:19.320 like it's painful to watch, you know, it's painful. 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:21.840 And I want to add this before we move on 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:22.320 to stuff. 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:26.400 I hear all of you guys, and in my opinion, 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:30.000 I see I see all of your points of view 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:35.160 that I feel personally and professionally, you three very well 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:38.840 executed your point of view. So there's there's things that 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:40.840 all fie of you guys said that I actually do 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:44.960 agree with. I think that's the beauty of reality TV, 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:49.320 which is everything's nuanced, right, there's not on the right answer. 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:52.600 There's not one wrong answer. I think when it comes 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:55.720 to the dynamic of portion Shedia, which will get into later, 0:19:56.560 --> 0:19:58.760 I always say this. I leave it to their supporters 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:01.200 to battle on social media about it. And the reason 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:03.080 why I love coming here is because we do have 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:06.359 a conversation where, like Blue said, no one has a 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:10.520 dog in this fight. Yes, disclaimer, I'm the closest apportion 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:14.240 on this panel obviously, but I'm also cool with Shamiyah. 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:15.520 Sami is my girl. 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:18.800 I make sure to keep things based on the show, 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:21.600 based on this episode. As we get to this moment, 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:25.879 I actually think all of this is true. I one 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:34.200 thousand percent believe that Samiyah is battling something she kept 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:39.840 inside and she's ready to burst. Okay, she's ready to burst. 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:46.359 It is it's obvious. It's obvious that her imports Us friendship, 0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:47.639 which was. 0:20:47.760 --> 0:20:53.560 Delicate already, has reached a milestone where they both are 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:56.159 trying to figure out the dynamic based on being on 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:56.919 the show together. 0:20:57.280 --> 0:20:59.520 Okay, that's simple. It's black. 0:20:59.840 --> 0:21:03.800 It is so blatant that we're trying to figure out 0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:07.560 how to coexist on this show in a way that 0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:10.800 makes our producers happy and in a way to make 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:15.440 the fans happy. Right, Porsche is obviously one of the 0:21:15.600 --> 0:21:19.600 greatest reality starts in the world, so Porscha understands how 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:21.720 to do her job right now. 0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:25.359 When it comes to the Kelly thing, I will say this, 0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:31.159 I do believe that the moment Shemia saw Kelly and 0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:32.199 Porsche make up. 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:38.760 I do believe in Smia's mind, my opinion, the fact 0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:43.960 that she said off camera allegedly because we didn't see it, Kelly, 0:21:44.200 --> 0:21:46.000 You're the only friend I have in this group, and 0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:48.240 came and Schelle said she felt offended by that comment. 0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:55.320 I do believe that Shemiah possibly could have saw Porsche 0:21:55.440 --> 0:21:59.480 making up with Kelly as a way of this is 0:21:59.520 --> 0:22:03.399 another person that will be on Porsche's side it is. 0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:07.440 I do feel like in her mind that's what she thought. 0:22:08.000 --> 0:22:10.480 I'm not saying Porsche made up with Kelly for that. 0:22:11.119 --> 0:22:13.960 I'll be honest with you. I don't think Porscha made 0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:14.600 up with Kelly. 0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:17.880 Just Spice Shamiya. Porsche, in my opinion. 0:22:18.080 --> 0:22:20.840 Made up with Kelly because Porscha is the star of 0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:24.680 this fucking show and Porscha understands how this show works. 0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:27.040 The reason why I'm saying Porsche is one of the 0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:31.359 greatest reality stars is because Porscha knows this show cannot 0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:34.840 survive with me being at odds with everybody. 0:22:35.640 --> 0:22:38.280 So por making up with Kelly was girl, it ain't 0:22:38.320 --> 0:22:41.400 that deep. I did you you dis me? We boke 0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:43.400 on our link back. It was great for the show. 0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:44.840 Let's move on for it. 0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:50.159 But Shamiah in that moment to me thinking that she 0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:53.880 was thinking, I'm losing somebody else to go with Porsche 0:22:54.560 --> 0:22:56.760 because you're the only friend that I had. 0:22:57.320 --> 0:22:59.320 Victimt's victim mind. 0:22:59.560 --> 0:22:59.720 Yeah. 0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:03.359 Also, Porscha made up with Further to your point of 0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:07.000 Porsche being an incredible reality star, Porscha made up with 0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:09.720 Kelly because she didn't want that smoke no more. Because 0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:12.440 Kelly love her hater. Kelly don't give a fuck about 0:23:12.520 --> 0:23:15.680 nothing Porscha has to say. And Kelly will literally go 0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:18.800 toe to toe with Porsche en scene every single time, 0:23:19.119 --> 0:23:20.960 and she's willing to get into pain with Porsche. And 0:23:21.040 --> 0:23:24.479 Porsche knows that Kelly has that capacity, and I think 0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:27.040 that she knows that that's always there if she ever 0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:29.560 wants to engage with Kelly in that way to stimulate 0:23:29.680 --> 0:23:33.639 the show and make it exciting. She knows she recognizes 0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:36.960 Kelly as a formidable casts men brand opponent. 0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:41.200 Yes, and so she's like, you know what, Yes, let's 0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:41.680 not do that. 0:23:41.840 --> 0:23:44.760 We ain't gotta always do that, you know what I'm saying, Shelle, 0:23:44.920 --> 0:23:47.240 real quick though, because I didn't want to touch Michelle. 0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:53.440 Thing I've been watching came Michelle, and I'm getting a 0:23:53.480 --> 0:23:55.480 glimpse into who she really is at supposed to the 0:23:55.600 --> 0:23:57.639 version of her that I had on a pedestal. And 0:23:57.760 --> 0:23:59.600 that happens, right, Like the more you see people in 0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:02.560 reality shows, even if there's a certain level of self producing, 0:24:03.119 --> 0:24:06.280 the mass slips and you see beneath it, sometimes I'm 0:24:06.359 --> 0:24:09.560 getting the feeling that Kay Michelle is more conservative than 0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:12.080 I previously thought before watching Michelle. A lot of people 0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:15.560 are getting that impression, right, like a desire to be 0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:19.440 wanted by mainstream white country in the institutions that we 0:24:19.480 --> 0:24:22.879 wouldn't have thought previously. There is a certain level of 0:24:23.280 --> 0:24:24.840 I don't want to say, internalized misogyny. 0:24:24.880 --> 0:24:26.720 But she's a little old school in her thinking, right. 0:24:27.760 --> 0:24:30.119 Women who are old school in their thinking and are 0:24:30.200 --> 0:24:35.000 harboring unintensual misogyny, they think like old street niggas. 0:24:35.080 --> 0:24:36.560 Sorry, I don't know if I can say that word. 0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:37.359 They think like old. 0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:40.159 Street dudes, and the code of a street dude is 0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:43.600 I'm gonna treat a hold away she acts, if she 0:24:43.880 --> 0:24:47.000 moves in a way that's respectable and has boundaries, I'm 0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:49.119 gonna treat her like a princess. If I think she 0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:51.480 fast and loose, I'm gonna treat her like a whore. 0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:56.240 If you think about kay Michelle having a similar mindset Portia, 0:24:56.280 --> 0:24:59.280 who's emotionally regulated. To Carlos's point, thanks the big picture 0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:02.160 to Claudia. This point is a pro at knowing when 0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:04.920 to react and when to hold back. I'm watching you 0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:09.920 have restrained, be masterful in the space, wield attention, but 0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:13.680 still no when to pull back. You're emotionally regulated, you're aspirational. 0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:17.639 I'm gonna treat you as such. Tomia easily feels like 0:25:17.680 --> 0:25:19.720 a victim even when she's victimized. 0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:22.400 She adds tacks. She's not making it up. She's been victimized. 0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:23.719 She just likes to at tax right. 0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:29.080 Easily victimized, emotionally deregulated, extra reactive, can barely hold it in, 0:25:29.920 --> 0:25:32.680 about to burst at the seams. I'm not treating this 0:25:32.840 --> 0:25:35.080 whole the way I treat the fancy lady in the 0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:36.040 mink dress. 0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:36.600 I think it. 0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:36.840 Kay. 0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:40.320 Michelle's mind isn't a conflict. She thinks she's treating them 0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:42.439 with whatever respective inspired for her. 0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:43.760 I'm not caping for this. 0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:46.240 I'm just saying a lot of people move this way, 0:25:46.400 --> 0:25:48.680 and I don't want to feign confusion. A lot of 0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:51.680 people have people tell me previously Blue, you think so 0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:52.239 and so's nice. 0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:53.399 She's not nice. She just know she can't be a 0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:53.920 bit around you. 0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:55.600 You know how people I have been told that that 0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:58.560 are horrible people that are lovely because they fucking know better. 0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:02.399 With me, yeah, all four of us on this panel 0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:03.800 know that there are folk who are nice to us 0:26:03.840 --> 0:26:04.720 because they fucking know better. 0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:06.680 I think Kama show's just doing the same thing with 0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:07.520 Shamia and Portia. 0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:12.520 This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King. 0:26:13.040 --> 0:26:14.800 Let's get back into the show. 0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:18.960 I don't want nobody around me that is making decisions 0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:22.520 like that, basing their their choices on who the how 0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:23.800 to treat people. 0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:26.520 You know what I'm saying, based on some stupid ass. 0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:28.600 Ship like that, That's that's how came A show has 0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:29.760 been shown that she moves. 0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:31.840 Much like her song. 0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:35.240 Damn, you know what I'm saying, she got a great 0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:37.880 song on that first half, rebellious Soul called Damn. 0:26:38.080 --> 0:26:43.760 But in the show, some people are being just real 0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:47.600 about their emotions and not being reality stars, and some 0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:52.280 people are being reality stars. And it's very frustrating when 0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:56.040 you are being one herd on your sleeve, not used 0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:58.200 to this, like as as much anybody else, and you 0:26:58.400 --> 0:26:59.880 you're just like, wait, but does that makes sense? 0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:02.359 You look erratic, you look crazy, you. 0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:04.760 Look you look like you beat a bitch, you look 0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:07.439 like you cloud chasing, you look like all the things 0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:11.320 when everybody that's in the chat in the comments, if 0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:14.679 you were in that situation, you might react like that too. 0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:18.600 It's so easy for us here safe, not being with 0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:22.600 cameras on our faces, being humiliated and embarrassed and in comfortable, 0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:25.040 uncomfortable spaces. Right, I'm saying, if I was on a 0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:27.240 show with my former best friend or even a really 0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:29.320 close friend and things change in front of the world 0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:31.560 to see and everyone's talking about every week, I'm gonna 0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:32.480 be off my game. 0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:35.880 I'm not gonna do warn her about that. But here's 0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:37.720 the thing, but one of you doesn't make it. 0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:41.200 That's the thing I'm saying is The thing that struck 0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:43.840 me by the time the credits rolled is that Porscha's 0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:44.560 a soothsayer. 0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:49.160 Porsche literally predicted this a decade ago and said, let's 0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:53.119 not do this. I can already see what's gonna happen. 0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:56.760 You didn't listen, and she was right. You're mad at her. 0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:59.720 For being right now, I'm way too blue because I 0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:03.960 did think that. I did think, like, that's exactly what happened. 0:28:07.960 --> 0:28:09.119 Show you was. 0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:15.320 That you were blindsighted. You weren't blindsided to warn. All right, 0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:15.920 we're gonna get to that. 0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:19.280 Go get that. But okay, congratulations, we have ten thousand 0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:22.720 people in the chat tonight. Okay, I'm gonna stop talking. 0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:23.680 Thank you for having. 0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:29.760 Hold look cold. Look, we're gonna get We're gonna get 0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:32.720 to that. But please, please, Lula Lizzy, remind me. 0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:37.720 To get to the moment of whether or not should 0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:42.160 be approved portions point towards the end. So because because 0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:45.080 guess what, guys, we're finally going to recount the show 0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:49.600 in chronological order so that we understand the building that happened. 0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:56.880 So at this point, Pinky is crying to the girls 0:28:58.000 --> 0:29:01.400 about her business. Uh, you know, she's going to all 0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:05.120 the business issues she mentioned how she had to you know, 0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:09.000 she had money profit, she had to give twenty thousand 0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:13.000 dollars to pay off some some things when it comes 0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:18.240 to the business, and in that moment, she's crying Sandy, 0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:22.680 She's spending so much money. Angela overhears her and says 0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:29.960 her confessional that she believes that Pinky's identity lies with 0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:38.000 her money, Okay, which I would agree with. 0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:44.560 Being an entrepreneur is very hard, and all four of 0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:47.040 us are one. It is very hard. 0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:49.480 The reason why I do enjoy Peaky on the show, 0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:54.680 the reason why when it wasn't popular to like Pinky audience, 0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:57.840 all four of us said, no, she's great for the 0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:00.360 show because she is giving us something different. I still 0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:03.400 stand by that. I think Pinky is fantastic for the show. 0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:06.840 With that being said, I do think Pinky is very 0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:12.240 one note, Pinky, your whole entire identity is your business? 0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:17.120 Is your EI in number? Is it's your c is 0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:21.360 your legal Zoom account number? Is your invoice number. 0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:25.840 I don't know anything about Pinky outside of her business. 0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:28.560 You are married. I have never seen you be a 0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:31.520 wife to your husband. I don't know what that looks like. 0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:35.040 I've never seen you have a family outing that wasn't 0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:38.720 attached to a business. When I see you with the family, 0:30:39.440 --> 0:30:42.320 they're promoting Milano's clothing for children. 0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:43.160 Right. 0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:47.600 Everything you do and have sat and have orchestrated on 0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:51.360 this show and off the show has been about business. 0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:57.040 And to add to add more evidence. 0:30:56.680 --> 0:31:01.560 To what Angela Oakley said about your identity being with money, 0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:08.160 you said, I'm crying over rich people's problems. You're not 0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:11.880 talking to a class of students at the bankrupt court. 0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:17.600 You're talking to Porsche, who is arguably the richest black 0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:21.720 reality star female on television. You're arguing from the Kay Michelle, 0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:26.240 who's rich, Shamia is rich? Angela despite you know what 0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:28.560 she was going through her homes like Angela has a 0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:31.600 coin too, Jusa, Dora has a coin, right, despite what 0:31:31.720 --> 0:31:32.320 she's going through. 0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:37.000 So to hear her say that, I gotta be honest 0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:40.240 seeing her cry in this moment. If we want to 0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:41.400 talk about moments. 0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:45.560 For TV, I felt this was a lifetime made for 0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:51.960 TV moment directed by Shonda Rimes, co produced by Marra 0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:56.040 brock a Kill and narrated by. 0:31:57.360 --> 0:31:58.760 Lisa Ray McCoy and. 0:31:58.840 --> 0:31:59.880 She owe you Money down. 0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:06.720 No, I'm just everyone knows everyone knows that I enjoy pinky. 0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:07.920 But let's be clear. 0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:12.480 You don't cry to say my husband I have issues 0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:15.960 because when I come home, I'm so stressed out. 0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:18.520 I can't even give him sex like. 0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:22.960 Her, though you sound like her. Look I watch that's 0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:25.880 how she. I'm so sad that I can't see my 0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:30.200 kids playing. One thing about being an entrepreneur, and this 0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:33.960 is and you're talking to Carlos King the first the 0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:37.000 beautiful thing when I left Housewives, which is why I 0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:39.120 won't ever go back, And that is no shade. I 0:32:39.200 --> 0:32:41.920 love the show. Thank you God for the opportunity. Thank 0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:44.560 you Bravo, and you Cooen Chule, the original and all 0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:48.080 the people involved. I'm grateful for the opportunity. I won't 0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:51.320 ever go back to that show because when I was 0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:55.240 a showrunner as Paudia, that is a twenty FoST seven job. 0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:58.600 I make more money talking about this show me working 0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:03.959 on it. I am an entrepreneur, raises for everybody. 0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:07.280 So for me, the beauty of being an entrepreneur is 0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:11.040 I'm clock in when I want to and I clock 0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:11.880 out when I want to. 0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:14.960 I don't feel no sort of. 0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:20.600 Tears on my cheekbone, because when you are an entrepreneur. 0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:23.640 You can't say, yo, I'm about to go to my 0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:28.720 daughter's recital. You don't have to flip the process burgers. 0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:32.720 You don't have to go there to do anything. So 0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:35.200 I felt that it was performative. 0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:39.160 I love Pinky. I think she's great for the show. Pinky. 0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:43.200 My advice to you next season, I want to see 0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:43.840 who you are as. 0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:48.720 A wife, a mother, a friend, because I haven't seen 0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:49.480 any of those things. 0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:50.560 Its fourteen episodes. 0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:54.560 To be fair, Pinky went on the show to promote 0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:58.760 her businesses. We know Pinky. Pinky is a person who 0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:03.200 and I'm with you one hundred percent. 0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:05.360 I just want to be fair because it ain't like 0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:07.480 we didn't know what we were getting ourselves into. 0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:11.000 Pinky's literal, by the words I'm using. 0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:15.600 Her literal claim to fame is her success, runaway success 0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:19.960 as an entrepreneur. After several tries, after several different attempts, 0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:21.120 she got something. 0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:22.719 And not only does she get a big one, she 0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:23.560 got a hit. Right. 0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:26.839 Of course, she suffered the woes of business that we've 0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:30.080 been privy to throughout the headlines we see, but Pinky 0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:33.040 did the damn thing with Slutty Vegan and Pinky is 0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:37.799 a serial entrepreneur. That is her focus. She's always been 0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:40.719 clearing up front about that, and so much so that 0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:44.040 she totally came into this show to use it as 0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:48.000 a vehicle to accelerate whatever business ideas that she had. 0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:52.759 Now it has exhausted us as viewers, right because it 0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:56.839 has been incessant. It doesn't stop. It's just like one 0:34:56.920 --> 0:34:59.120 episode after another. So it's a show. So this is 0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:01.879 that is and I'm crying. It is and I think 0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:04.080 that we're worn out. But I don't think it's fair 0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:08.920 for the viewers to like vilify Pinky for being exactly 0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:09.719 who the fucks. 0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:14.319 She always been, you know, for being who she is. Yeah, 0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:21.960 we're talking about Pinky. Carlos, Oh I'm saying, is okay? 0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:25.440 Just say Pinky done got on your nerves with all 0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:27.439 these businesses and you don't want to see that ship. 0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:30.279 That's all you got to say, because that's what it is. 0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:30.799 You tired. 0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:33.960 I have a questioned, as someone who cares about her 0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:36.879 and knows better than I do. Do you think it's 0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:40.080 just strategy or do you think she's just too scared 0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:42.200 to be as vulnerable as Carlos and most producers. 0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:47.040 I think strategy I think it's both. I think this 0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:52.000 it's sort of like listen. As a reality producer, I 0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:57.160 know for a fact that some of these girls do 0:35:57.320 --> 0:36:00.200 go on the show with an agenda that they have 0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:03.600 a white board, they have a manager, a publicist, and 0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:05.360 a sister who's a family member. 0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:06.200 They have. 0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:10.000 Wait, my sister's my sister. 0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:14.959 The reason why everybody waits for mother and a live 0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:18.239 is because y'all, y'all, y'all want the truth. I have 0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:21.520 a fucking reality star a part of the panel. I 0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:24.920 have a Harvard student a part of the panel is 0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:26.920 highly intelligent, and I. 0:36:26.960 --> 0:36:35.600 Got oh, we got five dustin Ross breaking, we got 0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:36.880 some breaking news, you guys. 0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:40.960 Oh, Porscha just put a tweet out. Did you see it? 0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:41.600 No? 0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:44.120 And everyone's saying that, okay, want me to read it 0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:44.600 real quick? 0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:46.960 Is it a real tweet? 0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:48.600 It's from her account. 0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:53.200 I'm on her page Twitter. Okay, wait twelve minutes ago. Wait, 0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:56.279 just catching up here in the Bahamas. Yo, I can't 0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:59.680 believe there are actually people talking about my mother and 0:36:59.800 --> 0:37:02.440 then mentioning my daughter in a negative way. Was this 0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:05.960 really worth it? Smiah took this way too far. You're 0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:09.040 not innocent. While you're you got people discussing my mom 0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:11.160 because of a lie you told on this show. 0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:13.440 We're going to discuss it. 0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:17.560 Keep it between us now, let's discuss you sleeping with 0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:21.080 your manager who's married to one of your high school friends, 0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:24.360 as well as a pastor indicator who's one hundred on 0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:26.000 your roster, along with many more. 0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:26.480 Let's go. 0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:30.319 So, I guess it's blown up now between them even 0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:32.120 I mean it already was, but now it's like it's 0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:34.080 gonna get extra extra now. 0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:35.479 And that was from her page. 0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:39.399 I got the notes from the rain drops, you know, saying, 0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:41.160 oh my god, Portcha just released the statement. So I 0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:43.680 went and looked, and this is definitely from her page. 0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:45.400 Just so you know, I'm not making that up. That 0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:47.880 was the Twitter page that's for her verified account, right 0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:48.319 on the. 0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:50.440 Ground journalism, Claudia, motherfucking Jordan. 0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:53.520 That's a real journalist. 0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:58.960 That's a journalist. Yes, that was amazing. 0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:04.880 Okay, so we will we will unpick that. But Claudia, 0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:07.920 now that you have a floor, what are your thoughts 0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:09.759 on this? 0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:12.760 I love this show, Go ahead. 0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:18.840 I feel bad for Pinky because like when you when you. 0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:23.560 Like put all your value based on your career, I 0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:27.319 understand that you know, and you gotta like something. 0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:28.319 Sometimes you got to hit. 0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:30.160 Rock bottom to like get out of that and then 0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:34.560 find your value in other areas. I went through a 0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:37.520 period of that where I know that people only rock 0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:39.360 with me for whatever I was working on, or what 0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:42.160 money I had, or the things the access, and it 0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:44.360 becomes your personality and it's a little bit of a 0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:48.000 masculine trait, some might say, But like it's when you're 0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:49.560 in it, Like when it's good, it's good, right, So 0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:51.720 everybody's like making you feel good about Oh you a boss, 0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:53.880 do this, do that? So I get it's like intoxicating. 0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:57.480 But the negative part is when things aren't good, it 0:38:57.600 --> 0:39:00.880 feels like your entire life is crashing. Even though you 0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:05.600 still have a fantastic relationship you're with, you have a 0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:08.759 great man, your family, all those things. You can't even 0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:10.520 see the good things in your life because you're only 0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:13.560 focused on oh right now, business ain't popping, and you 0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:15.520 kind of forget about all the other things. 0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:17.200 And it does make her seem like one note. 0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:20.000 So this probably needed to happen for her to realize, 0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:22.279 you know, she's gonna have to go through this and 0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:25.560 see reevaluate who's around her. You know, and see she 0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:27.520 still got that man by her side of having her 0:39:27.600 --> 0:39:29.719 back and all the good things in her life, and 0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:32.040 she'll probably come out of us. Hopefully she comes out 0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:35.480 of this not putting so much on success, because success 0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:38.479 it comes and goes, right you popping for three years, 0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:41.640 you feast them then then then then as a famine, 0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:45.360 and then you can't let your whole personality just go 0:39:45.480 --> 0:39:48.680 out the door when when life ain't like when your 0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:51.839 money ain't right, you know, because like you know, when 0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:54.080 you say stuff like first world problems and a lot 0:39:54.080 --> 0:39:55.960 of people watching your show can't really relate to that. 0:39:56.400 --> 0:39:58.919 They're like, well, girl, by you know, you talking about 0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:02.120 twenty thousand, this we you this hour you lost keep 0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:04.080 out here making forty thousand a whole year. 0:40:04.719 --> 0:40:09.040 So hair fell out? Oh my god, I'm just playing. 0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:15.520 I had an I'm trying to in my life all 0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:17.320 I'm just playing. 0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:18.120 I just play. 0:40:19.080 --> 0:40:22.040 Actually, okay, I want to say something more serious today, 0:40:23.560 --> 0:40:32.000 so won okay Ooh actually I'm so happy you being 0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:32.880 who you are, Dustin. 0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:33.799 I love it for. 0:40:35.960 --> 0:40:36.680 Who you are. 0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:42.400 This morning, and okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna be transparent 0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:47.440 even though this is not my most highest paying gig 0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:48.600 It is actually. 0:40:48.320 --> 0:40:49.840 One of my favorites, if not my favorite. 0:40:51.000 --> 0:40:54.400 And I was thinking about different forms of currency today 0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:59.400 and I woke up super early and immediately started texting 0:40:59.440 --> 0:41:01.719 my team like, Hey, this is time sensitive. We're having 0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:04.279 a meeting tomorrow, X, Y and Z. Payrolls on ones 0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:06.120 and get your Like. I'm sending all this stuff the 0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:08.279 minute I wake up. And then at one point it 0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:10.279 hits me because my store has been closed for a 0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:14.120 couple of months. I spent fifteen K last week on inventory. 0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:16.439 And for a moment I felt very sad. 0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:19.160 So watching this this morning on Peacock, I was like, oh, 0:41:19.160 --> 0:41:21.239 this is a little triggering, friend, why'm watching this right now? 0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:23.160 And I remember walking to the bathroom this morning and 0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:26.080 thinking I just spent the last three hours doing all 0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:28.320 this big boss business shit. What would happen if I 0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:29.719 had a partner right now, he would have had to 0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:31.880 watch me all morning the side of my face. I 0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:33.440 probably wouldn't been said good morning to him. And I 0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:35.440 was like, I need to slow down if I want 0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:38.160 to sabor this. I'm finally living the life I've always 0:41:38.200 --> 0:41:40.680 dreamt of. And to Claudia's point, I'm too busy to 0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:45.440 actually live it, and it broke my heart because I 0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:47.200 was like Beyonce back in the days shout to the 0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:50.640 old Destiny Shows fans. She used to say, Hey, oh Carl, 0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:52.640 She used to say, hey, when we go to Japan, 0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:54.880 when we go to Australia, we go to all these countries. 0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:57.760 You guys don't realize I don't remember any of those countries. 0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:00.560 I'm gonna have to go on vacation and go back. 0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:02.919 I was there, but I wasn't there. 0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:05.279 And I realized I can be in a two hour 0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:07.120 uber and have no idea what we're driven because I've 0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:09.879 been sending emails the entire time. So that's all to say, 0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:12.200 I very much am in the phase of my life 0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:14.239 now where I am actually emulating a pinky. I'm not 0:42:14.280 --> 0:42:17.440 going bankrupt, thank God, knock on everything, including would I'm 0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:19.920 not going bankrupt. And still, even succeeding can be as 0:42:19.920 --> 0:42:22.080 stressful as failing. They don't tell you that about entrepreneurship. 0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:25.239 Success and failure are actually both stressful, right And I 0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:27.800 was thinking to myself, if somebody asks me to be 0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:31.680 vulnerable right now, would I be able? Luckily, shouts of therapy, 0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:33.359 I can. But when I asked us in that question 0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:35.719 and just just said no, it's strategy. Because I said no, 0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:37.319 I think it's a little bit of both. A part 0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:40.520 of me thinks this is an opportunity for Pinky. I 0:42:40.560 --> 0:42:42.680 think she's gonna have to confront herself if she chooses 0:42:42.719 --> 0:42:47.600 to and say no, Hey, what I'm going through is valid, 0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:49.840 and maybe I haven't fed the other parts of me 0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:52.120 that would naturally come out because I'm not feeding them 0:42:52.120 --> 0:42:52.560 in real life. 0:42:52.600 --> 0:42:54.240 To Dustin Sport, she's consistent. 0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:56.560 She's not taking a competition with her husband. 0:42:57.120 --> 0:42:57.960 What what what? What? 0:42:58.160 --> 0:42:58.200 What? 0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:01.160 What? We have to say that? Why your part out loud? 0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:02.880 One thing that I will. 0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:06.160 Agree with Marcel Scott Love and matag Hunt's shameless plug, 0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:09.680 and I said, one of the things I agree with, Okay, 0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:12.680 new season is fall. One thing I agree with is 0:43:13.840 --> 0:43:17.040 I agree that listen. I think it's cute to be 0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:19.400 a power couple. I think it sounds good. I think 0:43:19.480 --> 0:43:21.759 it looks good on paper. I think it looks good 0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:23.840 when you go to the Mayor's ball. I think it 0:43:23.920 --> 0:43:27.160 looks good when you are traveling and you both in 0:43:27.239 --> 0:43:29.360 first class and you'll both are able to do it. 0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:31.760 I think that's one of the full congratulations, have your birthday, 0:43:32.080 --> 0:43:33.480 but let's have a real conversation. 0:43:34.440 --> 0:43:37.120 One hundred. Let me not say too much job because 0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:42.520 I forgot people scroll through my page. 0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:49.480 One thing, I will say, a large majority of the 0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:53.919 power couples I know their marriage or their relationship. 0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:55.799 It is not great. 0:43:57.040 --> 0:43:57.640 It's not great. 0:43:58.600 --> 0:44:01.800 I know for a fact that ninety five percent of 0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:05.800 married couples who are the presenting power couple, they're in 0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:07.799 secret competition with each other. 0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:11.799 But one person's up and the other person's down. 0:44:13.680 --> 0:44:17.560 Baby, that dynamic breeds issues in the relationship. 0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:21.040 It absolutely does. 0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:25.480 That's making at one thousand percent. Does We saw it 0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:28.359 on Loving Mash Huntsville. I'm not gonna name names wash 0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:33.360 the season. We just talked about Lticia and Glenn. Latitia 0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:35.600 was a housewife who started making money, and she has 0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:38.600 the audacity, in Glenn's eyes, to ask for a post 0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:39.400 up because. 0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:41.759 Your weight up, you know what was good. 0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:47.239 So the thing is, I do believe that Pinky is 0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:50.640 going through an emotional situation, but I think Pinky is 0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:53.160 tapped in the wrong thing. And I'm being real that 0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:57.239 that moment of this is rich people's problems. That wasn't 0:44:57.280 --> 0:44:59.760 for the girls, that was for you Bravo audience. 0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:01.120 Yeah, it. 0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:03.880 Just did not. 0:45:04.040 --> 0:45:08.120 It felt it didn't land right. It was not, it 0:45:08.239 --> 0:45:09.960 did not. It just didn't land well with the. 0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:16.000 And I just think Pinky is just making choices that 0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:21.799 are not resulting in her being entertaining as entertaining as 0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:24.400 she thinks she is. And I think that after editing 0:45:24.480 --> 0:45:30.000 herself right watching the showback editing herself, hearing what Carlos 0:45:30.160 --> 0:45:33.319 just said, seeing what the fandom has had to say, 0:45:33.800 --> 0:45:36.239 I think that Pinky will edit herself a little bit. 0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:39.680 But I just think that these are rookie mistakes from her. 0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:44.239 I just think that she has worn everyone's patience thin 0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:49.080 with bankruptcy talk business related issues this series that we 0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:51.600 didn't need to know anything about all of that other stuff. 0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:53.400 I think she's just exhausted us with that. 0:45:55.360 --> 0:45:59.480 Yeah. That, and you know, min tel Jordan. 0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:02.759 And where are we right now? 0:46:03.040 --> 0:46:06.400 Okay, in the beginning, we were like excited when Pinky 0:46:06.560 --> 0:46:08.560 was like showing her relationship with her husband, and that's 0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:10.960 when we were like the most intrigued and she could 0:46:11.000 --> 0:46:14.279 actually help some of our problem a little bit by 0:46:14.480 --> 0:46:16.720 opening up more in that area, because that would actually 0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:17.200 make her a. 0:46:17.280 --> 0:46:20.120 More of a more dominant, prominent. 0:46:19.800 --> 0:46:24.520 Housewife, thereby increasing her pay, thereby helping her with their 0:46:24.600 --> 0:46:27.600 financial issues. Like, focus less on the money problems and 0:46:27.640 --> 0:46:32.120 focus on the relationship. You'll be more relatable, more love 0:46:32.239 --> 0:46:33.000 and sexy. 0:46:33.320 --> 0:46:35.239 She just makes sex jokes about him. I'm getting tired 0:46:35.280 --> 0:46:37.479 of the pinky she gonna talks about her husband's penis. 0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:40.040 I'm tired of the sex jokes, Hurricane Michelle. We're all 0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:41.360 being weird with the sex this season. 0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:44.640 When girls try too hard to be sexy and like 0:46:45.000 --> 0:46:48.520 do too much, it's like it's so like obvious and annoying, 0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:49.440 like when they like. 0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:51.359 Do you want me my provocative nose? 0:46:52.680 --> 0:46:55.240 Like, oh, like yes, think of me in a sexual way. Relax, 0:46:55.360 --> 0:46:58.120 come down, It's okay, girl, like all of. 0:46:58.120 --> 0:46:59.600 You and all your husbands, Kame Sell, what are you 0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:03.240 talking about? You can't put on makeup to go to dinner, seriously, 0:47:03.840 --> 0:47:05.200 but now you want to aboy's husband. 0:47:05.360 --> 0:47:05.800 Relax. 0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:13.239 Sorry, So we're going all right, So the moment that 0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:15.440 you all have been waiting for, we're gonna get into 0:47:15.440 --> 0:47:19.239 the dinner scene that occurred at the end of episode. 0:47:21.480 --> 0:47:28.920 Go ahead, Okay, you're just gonna be looking like our u. 0:47:29.040 --> 0:47:35.520 Carlos the bottle drinking, you know, Carlos drinking like some 0:47:35.680 --> 0:47:36.759 cocon Kiwi water. 0:47:39.840 --> 0:47:42.479 It's a tequila knife for me, I thought about drinking. 0:47:42.960 --> 0:47:45.440 Well we're not, but you don't have any beverage at all. 0:47:45.680 --> 0:47:48.400 We can't know a thirsty as hell, but you know. 0:47:49.640 --> 0:47:51.400 This segment, please drink something, please? 0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:55.120 All right, so we all have our Okay. 0:47:56.560 --> 0:47:57.239 Hey, excuse me? 0:48:01.880 --> 0:48:03.719 Is that because the urge of a man who's going, 0:48:06.360 --> 0:48:13.520 oh really, but you won't okay, girl, the crime? 0:48:13.920 --> 0:48:21.680 Okay, you can't hear me though? All right, Well, yes, 0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:24.800 I'm six one flex. 0:48:25.280 --> 0:48:29.839 That's so flex. I'm a broad back six foot one man. 0:48:31.400 --> 0:48:35.840 So sorry, that's okay. Okay. 0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:40.440 So now we're at the moment that everybody's been waiting for. 0:48:41.680 --> 0:48:45.480 So there at the table and Drew Dora brings up 0:48:45.560 --> 0:48:48.279 to Porsche that Dennis says. 0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:51.719 That, you know he She. 0:48:53.960 --> 0:48:56.600 Asked Dennis if he misses if he misses Porsche. 0:48:57.760 --> 0:49:03.920 Dennis said that Porscha doesn't want him, right, and Porsche 0:49:04.920 --> 0:49:07.840 made a phase like what you're talking about. And the 0:49:07.960 --> 0:49:11.880 ladies did ask Porsche if Mike was a threat to Dennis, 0:49:12.520 --> 0:49:16.320 and she mentioned that, honestly, it's more sway that he 0:49:16.520 --> 0:49:20.319 seems to like, have a problem with. But she said, look, 0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:23.960 we could be who we are and we are amazing 0:49:24.120 --> 0:49:28.480 great co parents and because of that, you know, listen, 0:49:28.760 --> 0:49:32.120 she doesn't bring anyone around Polar that she doesn't think 0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:35.080 it's good for her because she does not play about Polar. 0:49:36.840 --> 0:49:45.000 Okay. In that moment, Samiyah brings up to Porsche. 0:49:46.040 --> 0:49:52.200 That Dennis and Gerald, Shamia's husband, had a conversation and 0:49:52.360 --> 0:49:57.560 that supposedly Porsche said that she was not comfortable with 0:49:57.840 --> 0:50:01.200 Polar around shamirh. 0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:04.160 And Gerald and Shemiah said that was hurtful. 0:50:04.960 --> 0:50:09.399 Porscha said, if someone doesn't like me or has ill 0:50:09.920 --> 0:50:14.480 willed towards me, I am not going to have them 0:50:15.280 --> 0:50:21.239 at your house. Whatever I want to stop there, I'll 0:50:21.320 --> 0:50:25.880 start by saying, I agree with Porsche in this moment. Okay, 0:50:27.080 --> 0:50:34.280 if me and my best friend are not cool, sorry, 0:50:34.400 --> 0:50:36.600 not sorry, our kids aren't going to be cool. 0:50:37.040 --> 0:50:38.520 And that's how I was raised. 0:50:38.640 --> 0:50:42.960 Okay, when my mom rested in heaven, my dad who's alive. 0:50:43.760 --> 0:50:46.040 If they fell out with somebody, we were not allowed 0:50:46.080 --> 0:50:48.560 to play with the kids anymore. My mother was not 0:50:48.760 --> 0:50:52.200 above it all to say, well, let the kids be kids. No, 0:50:52.400 --> 0:50:57.600 my mother said I don't trust this woman who was 0:50:57.719 --> 0:51:02.200 my friend for y'all be in her house. I don't 0:51:02.200 --> 0:51:06.240 trust it. I don't trust it. So I actually agree 0:51:06.239 --> 0:51:09.279 with Porscha. If I'm not cool with you, my kids 0:51:09.280 --> 0:51:10.279 ain't gonna be cool. 0:51:10.000 --> 0:51:10.520 With your kids. 0:51:10.840 --> 0:51:12.840 One hundred motherfucking percent. 0:51:13.480 --> 0:51:16.120 This is a This is common damn sense as many 0:51:16.320 --> 0:51:20.440 fucking worst neighbor ever worst all them documentaries and shit 0:51:20.480 --> 0:51:24.440 all over Netflix about people kids beating people's kids up 0:51:24.480 --> 0:51:27.319 in private, all that other stuff. Why in the hell 0:51:28.160 --> 0:51:31.479 what I send my most prized possession to a home 0:51:31.560 --> 0:51:34.680 of someone who is literally my adversary. That doesn't even 0:51:34.719 --> 0:51:37.840 make sense, especially when it's somebody that I used to 0:51:37.920 --> 0:51:40.480 be cool with. Those are the people who end up 0:51:40.560 --> 0:51:42.960 murdering motherfuckers all that other kind of shit like so 0:51:43.520 --> 0:51:47.239 Porscha made even Porsche even went a step further and said, 0:51:47.280 --> 0:51:50.480 the only person who I would feel safe leaving my 0:51:50.600 --> 0:51:53.719 daughter around after things that have happened, but after the 0:51:53.800 --> 0:51:56.040 things that have happened between us have happened, would be 0:51:56.200 --> 0:51:59.000 my sister to me. She made that as plain as 0:51:59.040 --> 0:52:00.960 she could, and I told totally felt where she was 0:52:01.000 --> 0:52:04.080 coming from, and I think it spoke to the performative 0:52:04.239 --> 0:52:06.880 nature of some of the things that Shamiah can do. 0:52:07.000 --> 0:52:10.480 When it comes to best of this friend, a sister, this, 0:52:10.760 --> 0:52:13.120 all that other stuff, Shemiah. 0:52:12.600 --> 0:52:13.879 Would have found. 0:52:15.560 --> 0:52:18.560 Peace, or she would have found she would have found 0:52:18.800 --> 0:52:20.920 comfort in knowing the fact that, Okay, even though we're 0:52:21.000 --> 0:52:23.800 beefed out, she's still willing to play the game and 0:52:23.960 --> 0:52:27.279 let our kids play together. So let's pretend that we 0:52:27.400 --> 0:52:31.480 have this friendship that eclipses our feelings at the moment, 0:52:31.600 --> 0:52:33.799 and we both still want our kids to play. When 0:52:33.880 --> 0:52:37.600 Porsta's like, no, you've crossed certain lines with me that 0:52:37.920 --> 0:52:39.920 I don't feel safe leaving my kid over there. 0:52:39.920 --> 0:52:42.720 And I totally felt where she was coming from with that. Totally. 0:52:43.320 --> 0:52:45.600 I debated sharing this, but I do think I love 0:52:45.680 --> 0:52:50.719 that Dustin made this point. My grandmother and this is God. 0:52:50.800 --> 0:52:53.840 It's not me sharing a quick tea. My grandmother passed 0:52:53.840 --> 0:52:55.799 away and there was a lot of suspicions about her 0:52:55.840 --> 0:52:59.080 best friend being involved. Several years later, Yeah, it's a 0:52:59.120 --> 0:53:03.000 whole family thing. Several years later, I'm a kid in Boston. 0:53:03.280 --> 0:53:06.239 I go to the house of a family back from 0:53:06.520 --> 0:53:09.040 the part of Haiti that my family's from. We're hanging 0:53:09.080 --> 0:53:10.920 out and a woman walks in and says, you look, 0:53:11.000 --> 0:53:12.000 I look as likely like my mama. 0:53:12.239 --> 0:53:14.880 I look people. She's like, aren't you related to so 0:53:15.000 --> 0:53:15.160 and so? 0:53:15.360 --> 0:53:15.840 To Lusma? 0:53:16.280 --> 0:53:20.120 I said, yeah, I went home that day sick. There 0:53:20.200 --> 0:53:22.040 was something in the food. I had to go to 0:53:22.080 --> 0:53:23.400 the hospital and have my stomach pumped. 0:53:23.440 --> 0:53:25.960 It was like a whole thing. I'm being so serious. 0:53:26.520 --> 0:53:28.520 And when my mother found out who was in the house, 0:53:28.560 --> 0:53:30.759 she started screaming because she was like, you know, they 0:53:30.800 --> 0:53:31.800 don't fuck with our family. 0:53:31.840 --> 0:53:33.200 You know exactly what the hell. It was like a 0:53:33.280 --> 0:53:35.680 whole scandal in my family. But I was the kid. 0:53:35.719 --> 0:53:35.880 I was. 0:53:35.920 --> 0:53:38.120 I was the pillar in the situation, right, And so 0:53:38.280 --> 0:53:40.840 I say that to say for me, I don't know 0:53:40.880 --> 0:53:42.800 if it's a Black American thing, a black thing in 0:53:42.880 --> 0:53:46.480 general across the diaspora. We're always funny about who alse 0:53:46.520 --> 0:53:48.600 going to be there when the kids are going someplace, 0:53:48.640 --> 0:53:51.080 because you understand that the checks and bouncers that have 0:53:51.200 --> 0:53:53.240 in my home might not be the checks and bounces 0:53:53.280 --> 0:53:54.600 that you have in your home. There's a story on 0:53:54.680 --> 0:53:57.239 the news right now, so let's not be tone deaf 0:53:57.400 --> 0:53:58.960 a sortin news right now, But a young man who 0:53:58.960 --> 0:54:01.680 went out with the wrong group of friends see and 0:54:01.760 --> 0:54:04.520 now his family is morning right, And so I think 0:54:05.200 --> 0:54:07.320 there's a certain and I agree with Dustin there's a 0:54:07.360 --> 0:54:10.160 certain manipulation. Because I always have I'm gonna say this honestly, 0:54:10.200 --> 0:54:12.279 I always have sympathy for Shamia because I think she's 0:54:12.320 --> 0:54:16.560 a good person who's low functioning and has bad coping skills. 0:54:16.840 --> 0:54:19.760 And her bad coping skills are being mistaken for malice. 0:54:19.880 --> 0:54:22.279 So I think agreed is that she's immature and that 0:54:22.400 --> 0:54:24.640 doesn't have any emotional regulation. Sma called me baby, I 0:54:24.680 --> 0:54:26.799 won't even tell nobody, So she just needs a culch 0:54:26.840 --> 0:54:26.960 and a. 0:54:27.000 --> 0:54:27.520 Therapist, right. 0:54:27.560 --> 0:54:28.960 I don't think she's a bad person. 0:54:29.239 --> 0:54:30.920 That's exactly how I feel about her. 0:54:33.960 --> 0:54:36.480 And feigning confusion as a black woman married to a 0:54:36.560 --> 0:54:39.479 Kenyan man about why someone who doesn't effort you doesn't 0:54:39.480 --> 0:54:41.400 want their kids over feels fraudulent to me. 0:54:41.480 --> 0:54:42.680 That's nothing to be confused about. 0:54:46.880 --> 0:54:52.120 Although I have not one drop of me believes that 0:54:52.280 --> 0:54:57.400 Shmiyah would ever give you anything, polar or any I 0:54:57.520 --> 0:54:59.520 do not think she has any malice. I do not 0:54:59.600 --> 0:55:02.960 think she's gonna I think her beef with Porscha is Porscha. 0:55:03.360 --> 0:55:06.520 I do not think that smid for one second, would 0:55:06.600 --> 0:55:07.799 harm that child, do. 0:55:07.880 --> 0:55:08.799 Anything wrong to that child. 0:55:09.200 --> 0:55:12.760 I agree with not having my kids or at someone's 0:55:12.760 --> 0:55:14.640 house that I don't deal with. You are right about that, 0:55:15.040 --> 0:55:17.160 but I don't think, I do not think that Shmida 0:55:17.320 --> 0:55:19.960 is in any way, shape or form a threat. 0:55:21.760 --> 0:55:24.520 As a mom saying hey man, we ain't cool, then 0:55:24.520 --> 0:55:26.400 our kids ain't gonna be cool. And might I make 0:55:26.440 --> 0:55:28.640 an argument if the mamas. 0:55:28.320 --> 0:55:30.440 Would have had the same attitude, we wouldn't be here 0:55:30.480 --> 0:55:31.840 where we are today. 0:55:34.520 --> 0:55:40.000 That part, that part, now, that's that's that's okay. When 0:55:40.040 --> 0:55:42.279 you cook, you cook, all right. So moving into the 0:55:42.440 --> 0:55:49.880 next moment at the table, because this is so much going. 0:55:49.760 --> 0:55:53.239 On, okay, is moving so fast? People are so like. 0:55:55.080 --> 0:55:58.399 My moderator said, she can't even put up comments because. 0:56:00.719 --> 0:56:03.279 Ten thousand people in the in the watching us. 0:56:03.680 --> 0:56:05.399 Yeah, no, we have over ten thousand people a live 0:56:05.440 --> 0:56:07.040 and thank you all the rain jobs and I'll read 0:56:07.040 --> 0:56:13.439 your super chats after this. So Porsche, as Dustin said, 0:56:13.800 --> 0:56:16.439 that's when Porscha did say, the only person I would 0:56:16.480 --> 0:56:19.040 do this for is my sisters. Then Shemia said, well, 0:56:19.040 --> 0:56:21.560 you said we were like sisters. There's a difference between 0:56:21.600 --> 0:56:24.359 blood sister and we're like so, but I don't think listen, 0:56:24.480 --> 0:56:25.080 I think all. 0:56:25.200 --> 0:56:29.120 Are Shemiah would never hurt that baby, She would never 0:56:29.239 --> 0:56:30.279 hurt you. 0:56:30.400 --> 0:56:30.440 No. 0:56:30.640 --> 0:56:32.520 I think we all agree with that, But we also 0:56:32.600 --> 0:56:37.280 all agree with said were like sisters. 0:56:38.040 --> 0:56:41.120 It doesn't mean that she sees you as her blood sister, right, 0:56:41.520 --> 0:56:44.440 So I think we all okay agree with that. Porscha 0:56:44.560 --> 0:56:49.759 then said there were things said last year where she 0:56:49.960 --> 0:56:51.439 thought they were friends up. 0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:52.400 Until that point. 0:56:53.200 --> 0:56:57.919 The producers flashed back to Angela telling Porsche Samia talks 0:56:57.920 --> 0:57:00.600 about her and feels there's something going on there friendship. 0:57:00.960 --> 0:57:04.560 They also flashed back to the moment where Shemiah saying 0:57:04.640 --> 0:57:08.360 to Porsche she wishes they had the friendship on camera 0:57:08.800 --> 0:57:12.000 that they do off camera, and Porsha allegedly said they 0:57:12.040 --> 0:57:14.080 would have to pay me more money for that to happen. 0:57:16.120 --> 0:57:21.760 Within that moment, it's when Samia revealed bah. 0:57:23.040 --> 0:57:28.600 YouTube don't don't when when she revealed the first drop right, 0:57:29.560 --> 0:57:37.160 she said, Porsche said to Samia allegedly that she did 0:57:37.280 --> 0:57:38.919 not want her to be part of this friend group. 0:57:39.040 --> 0:57:43.200 I either show and said, you sing, you act, you dance, 0:57:43.840 --> 0:57:48.960 you through the hawks. I don't want you on Housewives Okay. 0:57:51.080 --> 0:57:53.600 The biggest thing that has happened that we talked about 0:57:53.680 --> 0:57:56.560 all last season was whether or not Porsche wanted her 0:57:56.640 --> 0:57:59.600 best friend to be of the show. When I interview Porsche, 0:58:00.080 --> 0:58:04.880 I asked her that question specifically, she said, with all 0:58:04.960 --> 0:58:07.560 due respect, I won't ever speak of her again because 0:58:07.560 --> 0:58:10.440 she gets something to me so egregious. Right, So she 0:58:10.560 --> 0:58:13.800 said that I did ask for Meiya, because I'm a 0:58:13.880 --> 0:58:18.440 fair journalist. Hey, Claudia, as a fair journalist, I did 0:58:18.560 --> 0:58:21.040 ask Shmiya. Shamia pretty much said the same thing to 0:58:21.120 --> 0:58:24.160 me that she said here. I want us to have 0:58:24.280 --> 0:58:26.520 a conversation about this before we get to what they said. 0:58:27.960 --> 0:58:31.320 The biggest thing that I do think happened besides Claudia 0:58:31.440 --> 0:58:34.880 clocking it with if y'all mothers had that same energy, 0:58:36.000 --> 0:58:38.040 we ain't fucking with each other so our kids want, 0:58:38.560 --> 0:58:41.720 then perhaps y'all won't be in the situation. Although Shemia 0:58:41.760 --> 0:58:45.439 did said my podcast that her and Portia had years 0:58:45.480 --> 0:58:48.200 of not speaking to each other, but they reunited around 0:58:48.720 --> 0:58:49.920 ports of divorcing Cordell. 0:58:50.200 --> 0:58:52.600 That's what Shemiah said, They reunited right when she got 0:58:52.960 --> 0:58:53.640 big on the show. 0:58:53.760 --> 0:59:01.240 Huh, go ahead, I want to impact that's in a minute. 0:59:01.960 --> 0:59:04.600 I want to have a conversation about this, and I'll 0:59:04.680 --> 0:59:08.080 start because I don't have a problem with how people 0:59:08.120 --> 0:59:12.080 will take this coming from me. I have a best 0:59:12.160 --> 0:59:14.360 friend where we've been best friends since we were twelve 0:59:14.440 --> 0:59:14.880 years old. 0:59:15.720 --> 0:59:18.680 His birthday was last Saturday. His name is Gregory Dean. 0:59:18.720 --> 0:59:25.960 Hey greg Dean Birthday. We've been friends for over thirty years. 0:59:28.040 --> 0:59:29.880 If I and I want to be very clear with this, 0:59:30.080 --> 0:59:33.560 I'm not talking about my career now doing what I'm doing. 0:59:34.440 --> 0:59:37.120 I'm talking about being on a reality show. Because we 0:59:37.200 --> 0:59:43.240 got to be very specific. Porch is on a reality 0:59:43.320 --> 0:59:47.280 show called The Real Housewives of Atlanta where that show, 0:59:48.600 --> 0:59:54.680 like the other reality shows, enfranchises are reading each other, 0:59:55.200 --> 0:59:57.760 seekerts get revealed in all those things. I'm gonna make 0:59:57.800 --> 1:00:01.280 a very clear and plain show. Is on a reality 1:00:01.440 --> 1:00:06.040 show where she has seen Mimi and Cynthia fall out 1:00:06.520 --> 1:00:10.480 and expose each other. She has seen Candy and Phaedra 1:00:10.640 --> 1:00:18.040 fallout expose each other. Okay, she has seen this. I'm 1:00:18.120 --> 1:00:20.880 telling you right now. If I was on a reality 1:00:20.960 --> 1:00:24.200 show and my best friend said I want to join, 1:00:24.880 --> 1:00:26.760 I would tell him I don't want you to be 1:00:26.840 --> 1:00:30.600 on the show. And the thing is this, Portia has 1:00:30.680 --> 1:00:34.439 every right to say how she feels. I personally feel 1:00:35.240 --> 1:00:38.240 that if she did say that, there's nothing wrong with it, 1:00:38.680 --> 1:00:43.600 because if I'm seeing how this show not the producer's fault. 1:00:43.920 --> 1:00:46.680 There is something about the way these shows work. 1:00:47.280 --> 1:00:51.480 The difference between those girls is they met on the show, 1:00:52.560 --> 1:00:53.760 except Candy and Phaedra. 1:00:55.280 --> 1:00:59.080 But Candy and Phaedra became closer because of the show. 1:00:59.560 --> 1:01:01.760 And I don't know y'all know that Candy and Phaser 1:01:01.840 --> 1:01:03.480 before Housewives, they weren't friends. 1:01:03.680 --> 1:01:08.439 They were friendly, Okay, they became close because of the show. 1:01:10.000 --> 1:01:12.800 I don't think there's anything wrong if Portia does not 1:01:12.920 --> 1:01:15.240 want shouldn't be on the show, because I would not 1:01:15.320 --> 1:01:17.720 want my best friend on a reality show knowing what 1:01:18.080 --> 1:01:18.720 could happen. 1:01:19.360 --> 1:01:21.480 So I wanted to post the question to the panel. 1:01:24.040 --> 1:01:25.800 Would you want your best friend to be on a 1:01:25.880 --> 1:01:29.280 reality show with you that you have known. 1:01:29.600 --> 1:01:32.360 Since you were teens and y'all know secrets about each other? 1:01:35.120 --> 1:01:37.400 I want to start with Claudia, because Claudia, you are 1:01:37.400 --> 1:01:40.320 a reality star, and you have a you and and 1:01:40.560 --> 1:01:41.600 have been best friends for years. 1:01:41.640 --> 1:01:47.360 I don't know how long I'm been best friends. Would 1:01:47.440 --> 1:01:48.160 you your. 1:01:48.160 --> 1:01:50.560 Best friend who knows your secret to be on a 1:01:50.680 --> 1:01:53.560 reality show with you where you don't. 1:01:53.400 --> 1:01:58.200 Have producer credit. It's Housewives and you know what it is. 1:01:59.280 --> 1:02:03.560 Yes, Okay, I have faith and trust in the people 1:02:03.600 --> 1:02:07.360 that I choose to have as friends. There's no world 1:02:07.440 --> 1:02:09.360 why I'll think that us going on a reality show 1:02:09.440 --> 1:02:10.600 is gonna destroy our friendship. 1:02:11.320 --> 1:02:11.800 You know what I mean? 1:02:12.000 --> 1:02:13.960 Like, what kind of friends are you? Are you surf 1:02:14.000 --> 1:02:15.919 as friends? Are you kicking at friends? Are you hanging 1:02:15.960 --> 1:02:17.800 out friends? Are you the kind of friends that I'm 1:02:17.840 --> 1:02:19.960 mad day you over here telling all my business when 1:02:20.000 --> 1:02:24.200 I haven't told yours. I actually want to work with 1:02:24.240 --> 1:02:26.840 people that I'm cool with now. I do need a 1:02:26.880 --> 1:02:28.520 couple of people I'm sort of not be my best friend, 1:02:28.560 --> 1:02:30.720 so we can beef with them, but not each other. 1:02:31.960 --> 1:02:33.000 I think a lot of the. 1:02:35.000 --> 1:02:39.000 Energy between pors and Shmiya is based on Porscha not 1:02:39.240 --> 1:02:41.920 feeling a way about her friend, who has all the 1:02:42.040 --> 1:02:44.840 things that most people would want, the marriage, the money, 1:02:45.000 --> 1:02:47.560 the wealth, they all that stuff that who doesn't want that? 1:02:48.480 --> 1:02:50.440 Now on top of that, you got the one thing 1:02:50.520 --> 1:02:51.400 that I had over you. 1:02:52.600 --> 1:02:54.840 I mean, for certain people, it ain't gonna feel fun 1:02:54.880 --> 1:02:57.040 and ain't gonna feel you know, not anybody wants to 1:02:57.080 --> 1:02:59.640 share that, And why wouldn't you want your best friend 1:02:59.640 --> 1:02:59.960 on the show. 1:03:00.000 --> 1:03:01.560 I would think that'd be my best outly to have 1:03:01.680 --> 1:03:04.640 my back. That's that's my opinion. 1:03:04.840 --> 1:03:07.200 I mean, I pictures with some of my closest friends, 1:03:07.680 --> 1:03:09.880 and I'm excited to share that with them. 1:03:10.560 --> 1:03:12.680 But I also have friends for thirty years. 1:03:13.600 --> 1:03:18.000 But I want to ask you this because you obviously 1:03:18.080 --> 1:03:20.920 were on the Real Hospitals Balanta, So based on the 1:03:20.960 --> 1:03:23.040 real Hospitals Blanta, would you still feel that way? 1:03:24.120 --> 1:03:26.840 I mean I was on there. Well it wasn't Kenny 1:03:26.960 --> 1:03:32.120 wasn't a best friend, But yeah, I feel the same 1:03:32.160 --> 1:03:35.320 way because it goes the way you choose to let 1:03:35.400 --> 1:03:38.000 it go. You know, your whole life isn't just what's 1:03:38.040 --> 1:03:40.800 on camera. You have sidebar comes and hey girl, let's 1:03:40.840 --> 1:03:42.960 not go there, blah blahlah blah. You have your conversations 1:03:43.200 --> 1:03:45.480 to the off camera were you're talking. 1:03:46.200 --> 1:03:49.800 You know what boundaries and to not cross like the show, 1:03:49.920 --> 1:03:52.400 you know, I mean, like we choose to not hurt 1:03:52.440 --> 1:03:54.840 each other, right, to try to do our best. 1:03:54.960 --> 1:03:56.680 Maybe sometimes there are a couple of things that get 1:03:56.720 --> 1:03:59.360 said where it's like ouch, but we choose to not 1:03:59.560 --> 1:04:02.480 go there. You can choose to not go there. You 1:04:02.640 --> 1:04:03.320 have a choice. 1:04:03.840 --> 1:04:06.920 I am willing to go there and blow up everything 1:04:07.400 --> 1:04:09.280 for the sake of a show or a scene, or 1:04:09.400 --> 1:04:13.560 I'm not. And no matter what you try to tell me, producer, I'm. 1:04:13.480 --> 1:04:16.440 Not doing it. You don't have to No one's you 1:04:16.520 --> 1:04:19.479 don't have to do it. You don't. 1:04:20.280 --> 1:04:23.280 They could have chose to say, look, no matter what, 1:04:23.760 --> 1:04:25.680 me and I Morosa had a pack, but we weren't 1:04:25.680 --> 1:04:28.360 best friends. Let's not try to do anything drag each 1:04:28.360 --> 1:04:30.200 other until they try to get us to the top four. 1:04:30.400 --> 1:04:33.520 You can have these conversations. But what happens is I 1:04:33.640 --> 1:04:37.000 think when Shimiya got on the show, she had a. 1:04:37.000 --> 1:04:39.360 Lot of attention. I don't think Porsche have expected that. 1:04:39.560 --> 1:04:41.560 Now we did fizzle out and it went back to 1:04:41.720 --> 1:04:44.040 default settings, where Porsche went back to being you know, 1:04:44.160 --> 1:04:47.000 the star. But for a minute, remember he was like, 1:04:47.080 --> 1:04:50.400 hold now, you don't think that girl saw that and 1:04:50.480 --> 1:04:51.959 felt that and made her feel away. 1:04:52.440 --> 1:04:54.720 Even the most secure person is not gonna like that you. 1:04:54.880 --> 1:04:57.320 This is your shit, This is your shit. 1:04:57.400 --> 1:04:59.880 Here comes someone else that never had interest, now you 1:05:00.080 --> 1:05:02.600 and my shit, And now people are kind of seeming up. 1:05:02.600 --> 1:05:05.400 They liking you more than me. Of course, I'm going 1:05:05.440 --> 1:05:06.800 of course the problems if you ain't cure, you know, 1:05:06.800 --> 1:05:08.880 not having those conversations. I get it. I get why 1:05:08.960 --> 1:05:10.800 Porscha feel away. I'm not even dragging her for that. 1:05:11.800 --> 1:05:12.200 I get it. 1:05:12.600 --> 1:05:16.040 You know, it's unfortunate though, like I, it's unfortunate they 1:05:16.080 --> 1:05:19.240 couldn't say, look, no matter what when I crossing these lines. 1:05:19.280 --> 1:05:22.720 But their beef and about lines me across on the show. 1:05:22.800 --> 1:05:27.160 Their beef beef to me originated because Porsche did not 1:05:27.360 --> 1:05:29.800 like her friend getting being on the same levels her, 1:05:29.800 --> 1:05:33.560 because that's always something she was always gonna have over Shamia. Goddamn, 1:05:33.600 --> 1:05:38.680 you got the husband, the money, the long marriage, family 1:05:38.840 --> 1:05:40.600 like you got all that, and on top of that, 1:05:40.840 --> 1:05:42.360 you now you're in my area too. 1:05:43.000 --> 1:05:45.440 I understand how that would feel. I get it. I 1:05:45.480 --> 1:05:46.560 get how she would feel away. 1:05:47.440 --> 1:05:48.200 I'm not a lady. 1:05:50.360 --> 1:05:52.200 Yeah, I'm a little different when it comes to shit 1:05:52.360 --> 1:05:55.040 like this. I don't think it's no place or no 1:05:55.160 --> 1:05:59.479 space for like jealousy and envy and resentment of that sort, 1:05:59.600 --> 1:06:01.120 and like relate a friendship. 1:06:01.520 --> 1:06:03.960 I just don't. I don't play them games with my friends. 1:06:04.120 --> 1:06:07.280 I don't be getting into it with my friends and shit, 1:06:07.400 --> 1:06:09.520 and we if we have something we need to discuss. 1:06:09.680 --> 1:06:12.960 I'm very clear about my intention of not wanting our 1:06:13.000 --> 1:06:17.000 friendship to go on the wayside over whatever it is. Like, 1:06:17.160 --> 1:06:19.720 I just think that there's always an option outside of 1:06:20.320 --> 1:06:23.920 egregious wrongdoing, right. I think there's always an option for 1:06:24.000 --> 1:06:29.080 you to exercise some patience, some wisdom and move with 1:06:29.200 --> 1:06:32.040 a view towards sustaining your friendship. And I think that 1:06:32.160 --> 1:06:36.280 that will kind of protect you in an environment where 1:06:36.320 --> 1:06:38.760 your friendship is at risk, like shooting a reality show. 1:06:39.240 --> 1:06:41.160 There's no way I would be on a reality show 1:06:41.400 --> 1:06:46.880 and have access to certain opportunity and life changing opportunities 1:06:46.960 --> 1:06:49.560 and shit, and they show interest in one of my 1:06:49.680 --> 1:06:52.000 best friends and I try to block them from having that. 1:06:52.600 --> 1:06:54.479 I just wouldn't do that, you know what I'm saying. 1:06:54.480 --> 1:06:57.600 I would want you to benefit from this situation positively, 1:06:58.040 --> 1:07:00.520 even if it meant me working a little bit harder 1:07:01.280 --> 1:07:05.040 at managing my emotions to make sure that it went right. 1:07:05.280 --> 1:07:07.680 That's a price I'm willing to pray because to pay. 1:07:07.840 --> 1:07:11.600 Excuse me, because I love my friends for real, So like, 1:07:12.000 --> 1:07:13.360 if it means I have to be a little bit 1:07:13.440 --> 1:07:16.480 more patient, I'm willing to do that. But that does 1:07:16.640 --> 1:07:19.480 not negate the point that you just made, Carlosa, has 1:07:19.560 --> 1:07:21.800 nothing to do with you not wanting your best friend 1:07:21.880 --> 1:07:25.680 to have opportunity or have success or have, you know, 1:07:26.280 --> 1:07:29.040 make that sort of progress. You don't want to risk 1:07:29.600 --> 1:07:32.880 fracturing this lifelong bond, this thirty plus year bond with 1:07:33.040 --> 1:07:35.760 that person. So you're not saying you don't want them 1:07:35.800 --> 1:07:38.080 on the show from a place of jealousy or envy 1:07:38.160 --> 1:07:43.200 or wanting to retain this unique experience for yourself. You 1:07:43.360 --> 1:07:45.320 don't want to risk your friendship. At least that's what 1:07:45.520 --> 1:07:46.440 I'm perceiving. 1:07:47.080 --> 1:07:49.320 And I'll make a clear and blue I want you 1:07:49.360 --> 1:07:51.800 to close it off for us. I will say this, 1:07:52.000 --> 1:07:55.400 and what has happened today, I'm being very vulnerable to 1:07:55.440 --> 1:08:03.760 you guys. Like I said, I have no regrets in 1:08:03.800 --> 1:08:07.720 my life because everything's a lesson. If I had to 1:08:07.800 --> 1:08:10.800 live my life all over again with my career, I 1:08:11.000 --> 1:08:12.160 won't ever work with a friend. 1:08:13.120 --> 1:08:14.360 Really no. 1:08:15.080 --> 1:08:17.280 And I want to be clear because the thing again 1:08:17.439 --> 1:08:20.519 we're talking about nuanced. I consider you three my friends 1:08:20.640 --> 1:08:21.519 and we work together. 1:08:21.720 --> 1:08:24.080 But this is very many of us have them. 1:08:24.200 --> 1:08:27.720 Uh huh yeah, yeah, So but it's a very This 1:08:27.880 --> 1:08:30.240 is a very nuanced conversation, which is why I wanted 1:08:30.280 --> 1:08:31.840 to stick to like the reality show. 1:08:32.880 --> 1:08:35.720 I also one of my best friends this weekend and. 1:08:37.280 --> 1:08:39.599 He and I were both we just had a moment 1:08:39.640 --> 1:08:42.560 of reflection, like when we first met we were in 1:08:42.600 --> 1:08:45.960 our twenties, and he was like, what do you want 1:08:45.960 --> 1:08:48.280 to do, bitch? And I'm like, I want to have 1:08:48.320 --> 1:08:50.920 my on talk show and he was and then he 1:08:50.960 --> 1:08:52.439 told me his dreams and I'm like, we want to 1:08:52.479 --> 1:08:52.640 do that. 1:08:52.720 --> 1:08:53.200 He's like yeah. 1:08:55.080 --> 1:08:58.040 Just this past weekend, we were laughing because we both 1:08:58.080 --> 1:09:01.800 said we're both doing it exactly what we wanted to do. 1:09:03.479 --> 1:09:05.960 Like we literally have sat there and we never because 1:09:05.960 --> 1:09:08.680 we don't talk about like that. But we had a 1:09:08.800 --> 1:09:12.280 sweet moment like look at us, like we both are 1:09:12.400 --> 1:09:13.599 doing everything we said. 1:09:13.439 --> 1:09:17.400 We would do twenty years later. So I'm with you. 1:09:17.640 --> 1:09:18.960 I'd love to see my friends win. 1:09:19.240 --> 1:09:23.599 I think the difference is just like they said, working 1:09:23.720 --> 1:09:26.960 with kids and animals on TV or working with your 1:09:27.320 --> 1:09:28.880 working with your wife or your husband. 1:09:29.640 --> 1:09:32.519 I'm here to say I know for a fact, working 1:09:32.600 --> 1:09:36.920 with friends in a capacity where one person. 1:09:37.600 --> 1:09:40.599 Is the boss and y'all have y'all have, I'm gonna 1:09:40.600 --> 1:09:43.680 be specific again, y'all have a twenty year friendship. 1:09:44.000 --> 1:09:46.479 I'm telling you it doesn't work. It didn't work for me. 1:09:46.760 --> 1:09:47.559 Now I'm listen. 1:09:47.880 --> 1:09:51.439 There's exceptions to every rule right right right right. 1:09:51.760 --> 1:09:55.960 From my experience, unless somebody can say you're the boss, 1:09:56.080 --> 1:09:58.400 and I bout down to the to you being the 1:09:58.479 --> 1:10:00.360 boss and I know how to set up rate it. 1:10:00.640 --> 1:10:03.400 I'm telling you right now it sounds good. I'm telling 1:10:03.479 --> 1:10:05.160 you it don't feel good. 1:10:05.600 --> 1:10:07.400 But I think you should be able to do that 1:10:07.520 --> 1:10:10.800 as a friend. This is your show that we're working 1:10:10.880 --> 1:10:16.800 on right now, It's clear this is your show. I 1:10:17.000 --> 1:10:19.479 understand that you know what I'm saying, and it's not 1:10:19.680 --> 1:10:22.600 something that I have to swallow down or try to 1:10:23.400 --> 1:10:26.880 make myself be able to take. No, I'm happy that 1:10:27.040 --> 1:10:30.600 this is your show, and I'm grateful to be participating 1:10:30.680 --> 1:10:34.280 on your shows. I like that this is your shit. 1:10:34.439 --> 1:10:36.240 You know what I'm saying, because I'm happy you popping 1:10:36.400 --> 1:10:38.800 like that. I just think that it depends. I think 1:10:38.840 --> 1:10:41.080 that there has to be a complete absence of any 1:10:41.120 --> 1:10:43.320 funny shit in the friendship for it to work. And 1:10:43.400 --> 1:10:46.560 I think that that is a unique circumstance you're referring to. 1:10:46.840 --> 1:10:49.120 But I do think. I do think all of our 1:10:49.200 --> 1:10:52.280 defenses the four of us did not grow up together. 1:10:52.680 --> 1:10:55.959 True, that's very true too, and that does that is relevant. 1:10:56.080 --> 1:10:57.280 Yeah, yeah, and that's why. 1:10:58.479 --> 1:11:01.120 Yeah, go ahead, by no, I just want my points. 1:11:01.160 --> 1:11:01.960 I just want to make sure we fire. 1:11:03.720 --> 1:11:04.360 I want to lose it. 1:11:06.400 --> 1:11:09.560 So two things. First thing is I only work with 1:11:09.600 --> 1:11:12.519 my friends currently, everybody who works with me, and I 1:11:12.760 --> 1:11:14.640 even whenever they work with me. The first speech I 1:11:14.720 --> 1:11:16.360 give is, even though I'm the one who's cutting the. 1:11:16.400 --> 1:11:18.120 Checks, you don't work for me, you work with me. 1:11:19.320 --> 1:11:23.479 I'm really good at being an employer to friends and 1:11:23.640 --> 1:11:26.320 keeping them safe and having zero ego even as the leader. 1:11:27.400 --> 1:11:28.880 I don't have any friends who can get that back 1:11:28.880 --> 1:11:30.040 to me without fucking up. 1:11:32.000 --> 1:11:36.320 So I want to say, respectfully, let's all be mindful 1:11:36.479 --> 1:11:39.240 not to virtue signal just because people have different boundaries, 1:11:39.560 --> 1:11:42.720 because those boundaries don't mean I'm insecure. Those boundaries don't 1:11:42.720 --> 1:11:44.479 mean that I don't want them to have blessings. It 1:11:44.600 --> 1:11:46.960 means I have discernment about who's able when who's not. 1:11:47.320 --> 1:11:51.439 Not all your fucking friends are able. I have a 1:11:51.520 --> 1:11:54.680 friend who I had for twenty five years whenever I 1:11:54.760 --> 1:11:56.640 worked for him, it was easy. Whenever he worked for me, 1:11:56.720 --> 1:11:59.880 it was problems. I recognize, Oh, I have no ego 1:12:00.240 --> 1:12:01.920 working for you, but you have an ego working for me. 1:12:02.280 --> 1:12:04.840 Loved him for twenty five fucking years. So look the 1:12:05.000 --> 1:12:07.960 easy one. Acting as if not working with friends means 1:12:08.000 --> 1:12:12.320 you're insecure, you want to be superior or really victimize 1:12:12.439 --> 1:12:16.439 mindsets that are basically demonizing people's boundaries. And that is 1:12:16.479 --> 1:12:18.720 part of Shmia's problem, right, because you have to be 1:12:18.800 --> 1:12:20.560 in a space where somebody can set a boundary with 1:12:20.680 --> 1:12:22.160 you and you don't have to make a fairy tale 1:12:22.160 --> 1:12:22.519 about how. 1:12:22.479 --> 1:12:24.080 They suck just because you can't take no. 1:12:24.560 --> 1:12:26.760 Yeah, And so what I want to say about the 1:12:26.800 --> 1:12:29.760 conversation that I feel very passionate about as an EQ 1:12:29.960 --> 1:12:33.880 coach more than somebody who employs my friends. If someone 1:12:34.000 --> 1:12:37.240 says to you and they're being honest, hey friend, I 1:12:37.400 --> 1:12:38.840 know you want to work with me. You listen to 1:12:38.920 --> 1:12:41.240 this through the not the less of demonizing anybody, but 1:12:41.439 --> 1:12:42.280 just being objective. 1:12:42.640 --> 1:12:47.799 Hey friend, I think you're talented. You're beautiful, you're funny, 1:12:48.120 --> 1:12:51.599 you're smart, you have a great personality. You can sing, 1:12:51.720 --> 1:12:55.120 you can act, you can dance, You are a literal star. 1:12:55.720 --> 1:12:58.040 You have all these things going for you. You and 1:12:58.120 --> 1:12:59.960 I fell out because of what was happening with our mother. 1:13:00.479 --> 1:13:03.479 We just got back together as friends at a moment 1:13:03.760 --> 1:13:06.400 where I'm going through a divorce. I'm at a moment 1:13:06.479 --> 1:13:10.920 now where I've lost everything. I need something to be mine. 1:13:11.439 --> 1:13:12.760 You see how there's no insecurity in that. 1:13:12.840 --> 1:13:15.839 It's actually a reasonable fucking boundary, right. I need something 1:13:15.960 --> 1:13:18.360 to be mine. And I know because you're a star, 1:13:18.840 --> 1:13:21.519 I need an ally. You're not an ally. You're another star. 1:13:21.920 --> 1:13:24.120 I actually need an ally right now. And so I 1:13:24.320 --> 1:13:25.840 tell you, as my friend, do you know how much 1:13:25.880 --> 1:13:27.720 courage it takes while you're going through a divorce in 1:13:27.760 --> 1:13:29.720 public embarrassment, and if I'm on Twitter that you were 1:13:29.720 --> 1:13:31.760 getting left to have a friend come back and she's 1:13:31.800 --> 1:13:33.160 offered the show and you got admit to her that 1:13:33.160 --> 1:13:34.800 you ain't got it to give, do you know how 1:13:34.880 --> 1:13:37.680 much courage it takes to be that honest? Love it 1:13:38.000 --> 1:13:39.120 or loathed, it's honest. 1:13:39.240 --> 1:13:42.519 Right. I need something to be about me right now. 1:13:42.880 --> 1:13:45.400 I need this to be about me. And because you're 1:13:45.400 --> 1:13:47.960 a star, I don't think you're built to be an ally. 1:13:48.080 --> 1:13:50.000 I need an ally. But you're too big to be 1:13:50.040 --> 1:13:52.800 an ally I tell you that to your face in 1:13:52.880 --> 1:13:55.000 that moment. You have three options. This is me stepping 1:13:55.000 --> 1:13:56.599 into my coaching back for a second, it's not even 1:13:56.600 --> 1:13:59.280 about three album show. Your first option is to admit 1:13:59.360 --> 1:14:02.240 that you don't like and we have an uncomfortable conversation 1:14:02.240 --> 1:14:04.759 about what that means. Admit that I set a reasonable 1:14:04.800 --> 1:14:07.599 boundary and you don't like it. That's the first option, right, 1:14:07.640 --> 1:14:09.880 I was honest and you're honest back. The second option 1:14:10.360 --> 1:14:12.959 is a faun which is a form of covert manipulation 1:14:13.479 --> 1:14:16.679 to pretend you're cool with it while feeling away about 1:14:16.680 --> 1:14:20.000 it the entire fucking time. Now, a seed of resentment 1:14:20.240 --> 1:14:23.240 has been planted. I'm thinking, I warned you and we're good. 1:14:23.560 --> 1:14:25.960 Whole time you feel away, but are pretending to be 1:14:26.040 --> 1:14:30.120 a part of the program. Right, that's the seed of 1:14:30.240 --> 1:14:32.559 lie that creates resentment, even when you're a good person. 1:14:32.800 --> 1:14:35.840 Because if you lie to yourself and then you lie 1:14:35.920 --> 1:14:39.000 to me, the entire premise of the next eleven years 1:14:39.240 --> 1:14:41.360 of me thinking, you know, I only want you as 1:14:41.360 --> 1:14:44.400 an ally, and you agreeing, hoping I'll change my mind, 1:14:44.680 --> 1:14:47.719 not knowing I meant that shit, it means over years, 1:14:47.800 --> 1:14:50.439 your resentment starts to grow like a weed because you 1:14:50.560 --> 1:14:52.479 lied to yourself, and then you lie to me. But 1:14:52.640 --> 1:14:55.519 now you've convince yourself you've made up a story. Well, 1:14:55.560 --> 1:14:57.000 a good friend would want me to have this. Your 1:14:57.040 --> 1:14:58.800 friend told you she didn't have to give them, Well 1:14:58.840 --> 1:15:00.800 a good friend you start, I'm making up all these 1:15:00.920 --> 1:15:02.960 fairy tales forgetting she told you she didn't have it 1:15:03.000 --> 1:15:05.840 from the very beginning of this fucking relationship. And now 1:15:05.920 --> 1:15:08.439 you lying to yourself and me meaning what the fuck 1:15:08.520 --> 1:15:10.960 I said, has now turned me into a demon in 1:15:11.040 --> 1:15:14.720 your eyes. You think I'm a selfish, entitled monster, when 1:15:14.800 --> 1:15:16.799 whole time I know who I was at the beginning. 1:15:16.920 --> 1:15:17.600 I didn't lie to you. 1:15:20.880 --> 1:15:26.360 If you were clear about your feelings. Right, if you 1:15:26.560 --> 1:15:28.519 allow and blue, this is where you can help me 1:15:28.600 --> 1:15:31.400 with this. Right if you allow the other person then 1:15:32.240 --> 1:15:35.120 to operate and function, and you know that they are 1:15:35.240 --> 1:15:38.280 having a different expectation or whatever, and you just are 1:15:38.400 --> 1:15:40.600 resting on the fact that, well, I kept healing in 1:15:40.680 --> 1:15:43.000 the beginning. So I'm gonna go ahead and read these 1:15:43.080 --> 1:15:45.719 benefits of being around you and engaging you or whatever, 1:15:45.960 --> 1:15:50.160 even though I know that in your mind this is 1:15:50.560 --> 1:15:54.479 moving towards something else or evolving our relationship. Right, But 1:15:54.600 --> 1:15:56.439 when you call me out about it and call me 1:15:56.520 --> 1:15:59.640 a manipulator, I can now say I told you and 1:15:59.680 --> 1:16:00.720 to be what was up? 1:16:00.960 --> 1:16:03.479 So you're wrong for villafying me. Help me with that piece. 1:16:03.640 --> 1:16:05.040 Yeah, I gona help you with that, because here's the 1:16:05.120 --> 1:16:06.840 thing that we don't talk about enough. You don't always 1:16:06.840 --> 1:16:10.120 immediately know somebody's lying for themselves. We'll have a friend 1:16:10.160 --> 1:16:12.639 who say I've changed, I've changed, I've changed, and you're excited, 1:16:12.800 --> 1:16:16.080 and then you realize, oh, no, they're relapsing. They've already 1:16:16.080 --> 1:16:18.000 gotten you to engage. The water is at your hip. 1:16:18.080 --> 1:16:20.640 Now you're wet, right, And here's where the thing that 1:16:20.840 --> 1:16:24.200 Shemiah does that. I think that's why Porsche Porsha. Honestly, 1:16:24.240 --> 1:16:26.599 I'm I'm not giving for Porsche. I think Porscha sometimes 1:16:26.600 --> 1:16:28.360 when we think she's being sleeky, she's actually showing grace 1:16:28.400 --> 1:16:30.519 and pity. I think there are moments where over the 1:16:30.600 --> 1:16:32.280 years when we've seen this in Carlos and thus I 1:16:32.400 --> 1:16:35.439 know your historians, we've seen moments of Porsche going ooh 1:16:37.080 --> 1:16:39.880 and kind of pulling away, right. I think over the 1:16:40.080 --> 1:16:42.840 years she started to realize the thing that I was 1:16:42.920 --> 1:16:44.600 worried about the thing that I was was in you 1:16:44.680 --> 1:16:47.080 that would create this I'm seeing it now. She even 1:16:47.120 --> 1:16:49.479 said it in this episode. She said, say look in 1:16:49.600 --> 1:16:52.360 her eyes, and I know that look when I see it, 1:16:52.640 --> 1:16:55.320 and it's a look, a movement and negativity. 1:16:54.760 --> 1:16:55.320 And whatever else. 1:16:55.439 --> 1:16:58.400 Right. And so what I'm saying is sometimes when your 1:16:58.439 --> 1:17:00.439 friends lie to themselves and you believe them, and then 1:17:00.439 --> 1:17:02.960 you realize that they can't carry on the agreement, you 1:17:03.120 --> 1:17:05.360 start moving differently because we're already in it. Now, you're 1:17:05.400 --> 1:17:07.920 on the show. Now, I can't fire you. And I 1:17:07.960 --> 1:17:09.599 think a lot of the times when we've seen Portshell 1:17:09.640 --> 1:17:12.400 pull away from Smiah. I'm not saying she's without fault. 1:17:12.560 --> 1:17:14.840 I'm not saying she's not. To y'all's point, she's a 1:17:14.880 --> 1:17:17.519 great reality star, right, But if I've agreed to something 1:17:17.520 --> 1:17:19.040 and you're not keeping up your hold of the bargain. 1:17:19.200 --> 1:17:20.800 But I know we need the show to be cute, 1:17:21.080 --> 1:17:21.920 I'm gonna be cordial. 1:17:21.960 --> 1:17:23.479 I'm gonna do what I've been doing all season. If 1:17:23.479 --> 1:17:24.880 they mention your name, I'm gonna I'm gonna go to 1:17:24.920 --> 1:17:27.160 the store and buy me some milk. If they bring 1:17:27.280 --> 1:17:29.840 up something nasty, I'm gonna leave because I've now recognized 1:17:30.080 --> 1:17:32.760 I can't trust you because you breached our agreement, but 1:17:32.880 --> 1:17:35.599 I respect the ecosystem of the franchise that we're both 1:17:35.640 --> 1:17:38.040 beholden to. And because I'm the lead and the big 1:17:38.120 --> 1:17:39.719 face in the middle when you look at the avatar 1:17:39.840 --> 1:17:42.559 on Peacock, I know I gotta keep this going whether 1:17:42.600 --> 1:17:44.560 you lie to me or not. So I'll keep it 1:17:44.680 --> 1:17:47.160 cute as long as you stay over there and I 1:17:47.240 --> 1:17:47.840 stay over here. 1:17:48.360 --> 1:17:49.479 I'm not saying I'm kicking. 1:17:49.800 --> 1:17:52.040 I'm saying that if Shemiah had told the truth from 1:17:52.040 --> 1:17:54.880 the beginning, that she had the expectation that to Claudia's 1:17:54.880 --> 1:17:57.040 point and your point that, oh, you're gonna be generous whatever, 1:17:57.560 --> 1:17:59.799 they could have had that honest argument at the beginning, 1:18:00.160 --> 1:18:01.360 you lied and played along. 1:18:01.479 --> 1:18:03.559 And I'm gonna be clear with y'all. Let's put race 1:18:03.600 --> 1:18:04.240 into it for a second. 1:18:04.560 --> 1:18:06.439 If I have a white friend who tells me they 1:18:06.520 --> 1:18:08.240 love me, and I say, hey, white friend, I don't 1:18:08.280 --> 1:18:10.200 have any white friends. I feel nervous about having friends. 1:18:10.200 --> 1:18:11.960 I'm from Boston. Are you going to be a white 1:18:11.960 --> 1:18:13.560 friend who co ops and wants to come to the 1:18:13.920 --> 1:18:15.400 cookout and all the stuff, or can you be an 1:18:15.400 --> 1:18:18.040 ally can you be an ally? And you swear to 1:18:18.120 --> 1:18:20.080 God that you can be an ally, which means you're 1:18:20.080 --> 1:18:21.400 not centered. You're to the left of me or the 1:18:21.479 --> 1:18:24.400 right of me. Right, allies never center themselves. And then 1:18:24.479 --> 1:18:26.320 one day, ten years down the road, you say, I've 1:18:26.320 --> 1:18:27.080 been such a good ally. 1:18:27.080 --> 1:18:27.880 Can I say the N word? 1:18:27.920 --> 1:18:28.040 Now? 1:18:29.040 --> 1:18:29.840 There were corn rows? 1:18:29.880 --> 1:18:31.640 Now can I come to the cookout now? And you 1:18:31.720 --> 1:18:33.680 said no because that would be centering. You remember, the 1:18:33.840 --> 1:18:36.080 entire premise was that you were an ally to the side. 1:18:36.560 --> 1:18:38.160 And she's like, well, I think it's unfair that we've 1:18:38.160 --> 1:18:39.519 been friends this long and I can't call you the 1:18:39.640 --> 1:18:42.000 N word. We understand when it's race that this. 1:18:42.040 --> 1:18:49.280 Is bullshit, Claudia, your last thoughts. You're going to add anything. 1:18:49.040 --> 1:18:51.840 To the reality show, y'all. It shouldn't be this, ded 1:18:52.080 --> 1:18:52.800 They have real friends. 1:18:52.840 --> 1:18:56.960 They're real friends, because listen, the thing is, this is 1:18:57.040 --> 1:19:02.760 the reason why when Kelly Rowland wrote and released and 1:19:02.840 --> 1:19:06.280 made a video for Dirty Laundry Okay. 1:19:06.960 --> 1:19:10.320 Where she was open and honest about saying the quiet 1:19:10.400 --> 1:19:10.960 part out. 1:19:10.840 --> 1:19:17.240 Loud, right, we all we all assumed thought about wondered 1:19:17.960 --> 1:19:21.720 right when she said it was hard to see my 1:19:21.880 --> 1:19:24.120 sister Beyonce on stage killing it and I'm not. 1:19:25.320 --> 1:19:28.280 It's you know, when she when she's talked about her insecurities. 1:19:29.080 --> 1:19:29.600 I think this. 1:19:30.560 --> 1:19:33.439 I don't want to this is me and Claudia, right, 1:19:33.560 --> 1:19:35.840 I don't want to reduce it to just reality show. 1:19:35.920 --> 1:19:37.519 But I do think this. 1:19:38.520 --> 1:19:42.880 I think Listen, what we also aren't saying that I 1:19:43.040 --> 1:19:48.040 do want us to feel comfortable talking about is the 1:19:48.280 --> 1:19:51.639 delicate relationships between black female friends. 1:19:52.960 --> 1:19:55.519 And that's an and listen, that's a whole other conversation 1:19:55.640 --> 1:19:56.360 that we'll have later. 1:19:57.040 --> 1:20:01.880 But right, listen and all the reason, but let's be 1:20:02.120 --> 1:20:05.439 let's be real. The reason why I said about my 1:20:05.680 --> 1:20:07.360 I have a best friend where we're both in the 1:20:07.400 --> 1:20:10.320 same industry, but we're both we both did this, yeah, 1:20:11.080 --> 1:20:14.360 is because we both were able to bluse point when 1:20:14.400 --> 1:20:15.640 he asked me, what do you want to do? 1:20:16.680 --> 1:20:18.960 And I asked him the same question, and we both 1:20:19.040 --> 1:20:22.120 knew was this We were honest. 1:20:22.560 --> 1:20:25.040 If he would have came to me now and see 1:20:25.080 --> 1:20:30.280 me popping on my podcast and said, yo, I want 1:20:30.320 --> 1:20:31.439 a podcast. 1:20:31.360 --> 1:20:34.280 I would say I would say, okay, I'll help you. 1:20:34.760 --> 1:20:36.479 If he said, no, I'm making easy for your boy. 1:20:37.160 --> 1:20:41.960 Have me joined blue, Claudia and Dustin I'll say, what 1:20:42.040 --> 1:20:42.840 are you talking about? 1:20:43.120 --> 1:20:46.479 You never wanted to do this, And I do think 1:20:46.520 --> 1:20:48.360 there's something to be said about. 1:20:50.360 --> 1:20:53.200 Listen, maybe because I'm because I'm a man, and that's 1:20:53.240 --> 1:20:54.599 why I love the fact that I got two black 1:20:54.600 --> 1:20:58.920 women here. I think for me, I don't understand why 1:20:59.120 --> 1:21:02.400 it's not okay to feel this is my. 1:21:02.640 --> 1:21:03.280 Thing and. 1:21:06.479 --> 1:21:10.519 It is as you're honest about that. No, no, and 1:21:10.640 --> 1:21:12.880 it's okay for a person to be honest about that. 1:21:13.080 --> 1:21:20.439 And it just means you you have boundaries, Yes, Claudia, 1:21:20.600 --> 1:21:24.040 you think if I move on all right? 1:21:25.080 --> 1:21:29.400 I mean the babying is it just irritates me. And 1:21:29.439 --> 1:21:31.160 when I speak of again said I'm a hater. 1:21:31.479 --> 1:21:34.479 It's too much. You guys, like you can't have it 1:21:34.560 --> 1:21:36.360 both ways. You can't sit there and say I have 1:21:36.439 --> 1:21:38.160 a boundary and I don't want you on the show. 1:21:38.200 --> 1:21:41.640 But then also at the same time, Andy didn't. 1:21:41.400 --> 1:21:42.760 I say I want her on the show? 1:21:42.840 --> 1:21:43.640 Which one is it? 1:21:43.920 --> 1:21:46.320 You can't agree with you? I agree? 1:21:46.760 --> 1:21:47.000 Fuck? 1:21:47.120 --> 1:21:49.439 And it's mean I think she's been shamed into having 1:21:49.439 --> 1:21:51.479 to make this lion backtrack. She didn't have it. 1:21:51.600 --> 1:21:54.160 Lie you don't want to do like it's too much. 1:21:54.720 --> 1:21:59.360 It's like people being blinded and it's so frustrating you guys. 1:21:59.479 --> 1:22:03.200 It's so to sit and hear this. That is her friend. 1:22:03.479 --> 1:22:05.519 I guess I come from a different school of thought. 1:22:06.040 --> 1:22:09.800 I have friends of twenty years where I will gladly 1:22:09.960 --> 1:22:11.720 share an opportunity with them, and I know I'm not 1:22:11.840 --> 1:22:14.120 everybody and some people. I need to have my own 1:22:14.200 --> 1:22:17.519 thing without the person you love the most. The person 1:22:17.600 --> 1:22:19.040 you love the most, you don't want them to be 1:22:19.160 --> 1:22:21.600 there with you. I do, so I think differently. I 1:22:21.640 --> 1:22:24.080 will never be in a place where I will recommend 1:22:24.160 --> 1:22:26.120 all three of you for something that I'm up for 1:22:26.439 --> 1:22:28.320 and not feel a way if y'all get it, because 1:22:28.320 --> 1:22:30.360 I love you, guys, and I will if I can't 1:22:30.400 --> 1:22:32.200 have it, I want y'all to have it. To sit 1:22:32.280 --> 1:22:35.519 here and say her being here fucked with my nervous 1:22:35.520 --> 1:22:38.519 system and fucks me up. What you wouldn't have that 1:22:38.600 --> 1:22:39.080 girl's friend. 1:22:39.080 --> 1:22:39.639 That's the case. 1:22:39.800 --> 1:22:42.360 Y'all are never really friends, and your mothers should never 1:22:42.720 --> 1:22:44.519 let y'all be friends after they. 1:22:44.479 --> 1:22:46.320 Have beef because we will not be here and I 1:22:46.720 --> 1:22:47.840 just don't operate like that. 1:22:49.960 --> 1:22:50.120 Let me. 1:22:50.479 --> 1:22:52.600 I have friends, and I know it ain't about me, 1:22:52.640 --> 1:22:55.240 but I have friends that want to do the same. 1:22:55.400 --> 1:22:58.560 I have friends that are actors and TV hosts and 1:22:58.680 --> 1:23:00.439 I had to watch them good things that I get 1:23:00.800 --> 1:23:03.200 and it may hurt at the moment, but I love 1:23:03.320 --> 1:23:04.240 that for my friend. 1:23:04.920 --> 1:23:06.960 You have friends that can say no and you're respect 1:23:07.000 --> 1:23:08.640 it without you thinking it's a character, so that they 1:23:08.640 --> 1:23:09.240 simply don't. 1:23:09.080 --> 1:23:11.280 Feel like Sharon, you have friends. 1:23:11.439 --> 1:23:13.719 Here's my thing. I don't want one a friend who's 1:23:13.720 --> 1:23:15.639 always generous. I want a friend who can also say 1:23:15.640 --> 1:23:17.600 an honest no and not have to pandit to my. 1:23:17.640 --> 1:23:22.040 Insecurities, to me that my friend is saying no to 1:23:22.200 --> 1:23:24.320 me being put on something that you're on because it. 1:23:24.360 --> 1:23:27.000 Makes you feel away. Why should my presence feel what 1:23:27.160 --> 1:23:29.920 make you feel away? On a show that I'm not. 1:23:29.960 --> 1:23:32.160 Gonna I'm not gonna take the start them from you. 1:23:32.360 --> 1:23:34.960 I'm never gonna take the start. Porsche will always have 1:23:35.080 --> 1:23:38.840 the charisma, the beauty, the charm, the body. She'll always 1:23:38.880 --> 1:23:41.519 have that, and Shmia being there does not take away 1:23:41.520 --> 1:23:42.200 from Porsche's. 1:23:42.200 --> 1:23:44.519 Sorry, it means that I can say no and it 1:23:44.560 --> 1:23:48.080 doesn't mean But here's the thing too. Again, Let's be honest. 1:23:48.200 --> 1:23:50.320 Not all friends are the same frequency of energy. There 1:23:50.360 --> 1:23:51.840 are friends that you can lay next to you and 1:23:52.000 --> 1:23:54.679 not say shit. Don't even have to put on clean draws, 1:23:54.960 --> 1:23:57.280 just lay next to that and it's easy. There are 1:23:57.320 --> 1:23:59.000 other friends that you love just as much, and they 1:23:59.080 --> 1:24:02.320 take some kind of inconvenience and energy. If I don't 1:24:02.400 --> 1:24:04.840 have it to give, and I am honest that I 1:24:04.920 --> 1:24:05.320 don't have it. 1:24:05.360 --> 1:24:07.920 To give, what are you giving? What are you giving? 1:24:08.439 --> 1:24:10.000 I'm just land the plan if I don't have it, 1:24:10.360 --> 1:24:12.760 whatever it is, energetically right, whatever that currency is. If 1:24:12.760 --> 1:24:14.519 you ask me for something and I don't have it 1:24:14.600 --> 1:24:16.519 to give, and I honestly tell you that I don't 1:24:16.560 --> 1:24:18.920 have it to give, and you think I'm immature and insecure, 1:24:19.000 --> 1:24:20.519 not a good friend, because I'm telling you the truth 1:24:20.560 --> 1:24:22.639 that I don't have it to give, there's an entitlement 1:24:22.720 --> 1:24:24.639 in that that I can't sit with because now you're 1:24:24.640 --> 1:24:25.640 making my stuff about you. 1:24:26.080 --> 1:24:28.559 People who can't hear know and still love you are 1:24:28.640 --> 1:24:29.320 not safe to me. 1:24:29.920 --> 1:24:33.000 She didn't get on the show by herself. And if. 1:24:34.680 --> 1:24:37.679 The premise matters, you said you coming as my ally, 1:24:37.800 --> 1:24:39.880 knowing what my boundary is and pretending you're okay with 1:24:39.960 --> 1:24:42.040 it and whole time wanting to hold the peach is 1:24:42.160 --> 1:24:44.400 very different than you saying actually not says I'm sorry. 1:24:44.439 --> 1:24:45.639 I actually want to get put on. Do you want 1:24:45.640 --> 1:24:47.439 to rock paper scissors? We're gonna have to figure this out. 1:24:47.560 --> 1:24:49.400 If anything, I would expect you more if you were 1:24:49.479 --> 1:24:52.559 kept in a stack her boundary there. 1:24:52.960 --> 1:24:56.080 That's the point right there, beginning. 1:24:56.160 --> 1:24:56.840 What was my point? 1:24:57.000 --> 1:24:59.160 If Shamia was honest and have this ugly conversation at 1:24:59.160 --> 1:25:01.639 the beginning, we wouldn't be now, I don't. 1:25:01.720 --> 1:25:02.000 I don't know. 1:25:02.280 --> 1:25:04.120 Do you think you can be friends that do the 1:25:04.240 --> 1:25:07.200 same thing and not have overlapped in a way that 1:25:07.400 --> 1:25:09.000 is detrimental to your friendship. 1:25:10.160 --> 1:25:11.800 I could go further, but I ain't even got. 1:25:11.760 --> 1:25:18.720 To, so you know, and I know, and I don't think. 1:25:19.000 --> 1:25:21.120 Let me clear this up. And I do not think 1:25:21.880 --> 1:25:24.719 that Porscha is jealous of Shemiah. 1:25:25.080 --> 1:25:28.240 I think Porscha has her thing, that it's fantastic, she 1:25:28.360 --> 1:25:31.639 has her life. I'm just saying, when you have friends like, okay, 1:25:31.760 --> 1:25:34.800 say I sell over here and you sell over there. 1:25:35.360 --> 1:25:38.400 Now you're also except over here and my ship. I 1:25:38.520 --> 1:25:40.439 get why Porscha would feel a way I'm saying that 1:25:40.479 --> 1:25:43.720 I'm being I understand that, but damn it bothers you 1:25:43.840 --> 1:25:46.519 that much to be to share this with your friends. 1:25:46.920 --> 1:25:48.080 But I think I think. 1:25:48.000 --> 1:25:49.880 Okay, because I have to move on to the to 1:25:49.960 --> 1:25:50.760 the to the main part. 1:25:50.840 --> 1:25:54.240 But I will say one thing Claudia did say that 1:25:54.360 --> 1:25:57.720 I do think they have falling on death ears right 1:25:58.400 --> 1:26:02.240 because we're talking about how pathetical and what Claudia has 1:26:02.560 --> 1:26:04.000 has said is. 1:26:05.560 --> 1:26:08.040 Porsche has said. 1:26:08.600 --> 1:26:12.160 To Claudia's point, Andy did not want her on the show, right. 1:26:12.760 --> 1:26:15.559 So again my I'll speak for myself. 1:26:15.920 --> 1:26:19.320 My argument was more so if she did say that, 1:26:20.320 --> 1:26:22.240 I'm not mad at it, but I agree with you. 1:26:23.360 --> 1:26:27.960 I wanted to ask Porsche directly and she chose to 1:26:28.080 --> 1:26:31.760 not answer my question, So we we I guess it's 1:26:31.760 --> 1:26:33.960 one of those things we will never know unless the 1:26:34.000 --> 1:26:34.880 reunion happens. 1:26:35.120 --> 1:26:36.760 But I do think that Claudia's point. 1:26:37.240 --> 1:26:39.800 Porsia did tell Andy I did want her on the show, 1:26:40.160 --> 1:26:43.080 Tomia saying no, you didn't. And I think what we're 1:26:43.160 --> 1:26:47.479 all saying is hypothetically, if Porscha did not want. 1:26:47.320 --> 1:26:49.360 You on the show, these are the reasons why. 1:26:49.640 --> 1:26:51.559 But she said that she. 1:26:51.640 --> 1:26:55.280 Wanted me as a psydekick at ally whatever the wrote 1:26:55.280 --> 1:26:58.040 the notes, Yeah, being on the show and your capacity 1:26:58.120 --> 1:26:59.519 on the show are not the same. Thing. I think 1:26:59.560 --> 1:27:02.719 we're assuming a conflict that might not be there because 1:27:02.800 --> 1:27:04.200 one of you on the show as a friend of 1:27:04.360 --> 1:27:05.760 is different than one of you as my co host. 1:27:05.920 --> 1:27:07.040 Those are two different roles. 1:27:07.640 --> 1:27:10.519 Yeah, yeah, well the conflict is definitely there. 1:27:11.000 --> 1:27:14.759 Yeah, the conflict is about the perception about the placement 1:27:14.840 --> 1:27:16.800 on the show, not her being on the show as 1:27:16.880 --> 1:27:18.760 a friend. As an ally, that's very different than you 1:27:18.800 --> 1:27:21.400 being my co host. We talked about that a nauseum. 1:27:21.520 --> 1:27:23.280 Sami has been wanting to get that peach for all 1:27:23.320 --> 1:27:25.519 these years. It's a running joke. Why are we pretending 1:27:25.520 --> 1:27:28.760 that capacity is not a nuance in yere I'm a. 1:27:28.800 --> 1:27:31.720 Person who lives at the intersection of this conversation, right 1:27:32.280 --> 1:27:34.960 because while I would absolutely leave the door open for 1:27:35.160 --> 1:27:38.840 anybody I love that is qualified and ready for the opportunity, right, 1:27:40.000 --> 1:27:45.559 I also I also concurrently at the same time, would 1:27:45.680 --> 1:27:50.320 not be offended by offering myself available for an opportunity 1:27:50.360 --> 1:27:52.240 and one of my friends who had access to it 1:27:52.360 --> 1:27:55.799 telling me no for a relevant reason, for whatever reason, 1:27:55.920 --> 1:27:58.599 if you have an an option to answer of caution 1:27:58.840 --> 1:28:01.600 yes or no to me, you have that option, and 1:28:01.720 --> 1:28:03.280 I respect it and I will move on. 1:28:03.560 --> 1:28:04.880 I don't think everybody's like that. 1:28:05.439 --> 1:28:07.800 And for the record, I tell my friends know who 1:28:07.880 --> 1:28:09.679 do act to be a part of this panel. 1:28:10.000 --> 1:28:12.360 Yeah all the time. 1:28:13.280 --> 1:28:14.120 I'm gonna say this too. 1:28:15.040 --> 1:28:17.400 Sometimes when somebody doesn't have an opportunity for you, it's 1:28:17.479 --> 1:28:19.920 not that it's discernment. I think the one thing that 1:28:20.000 --> 1:28:23.200 we're leaving out is discernment sometimes says no, not somebody's heart. 1:28:25.000 --> 1:28:29.599 Stop asking, to stop asking, stop asking and putting them 1:28:29.600 --> 1:28:31.479 in a fucked up position too, just because you know 1:28:31.600 --> 1:28:34.240 somebody that's got access your ass ain't even ready. 1:28:34.320 --> 1:28:36.920 Nine times out of too, he said. 1:28:36.880 --> 1:28:37.800 Not, I wouldn't love it. 1:28:37.960 --> 1:28:41.599 But okay, but Andy didn't I tell her, yes, I Oh, 1:28:42.200 --> 1:28:42.560 I hate that. 1:28:43.400 --> 1:28:46.840 I made sure your point got okay. So I want 1:28:46.880 --> 1:28:50.240 to move on to the moment that end of this friendship. 1:28:50.320 --> 1:28:52.920 And I'm gonna go on record saying they will never 1:28:53.000 --> 1:28:56.360 be friends again. They'll anything, They'll be surface cordial, the 1:28:56.400 --> 1:29:00.599 whole nine yards. They will never be friends. Shimia says 1:29:00.640 --> 1:29:05.559 in Savannah Okay that Porscha said she never wants their 1:29:05.640 --> 1:29:12.360 mother's issues to affect their friendship. Then said Porsche went 1:29:12.479 --> 1:29:17.160 on her public platform to say that what Shamiah's mom 1:29:17.320 --> 1:29:22.559 did was something egregious to her mom. Samiah said, when, 1:29:22.640 --> 1:29:27.320 in fact, your mom did something to my mom and 1:29:27.520 --> 1:29:28.799 this was years prior. 1:29:29.760 --> 1:29:33.280 Porsche said, I don't know about our mom's friendship like that. 1:29:34.040 --> 1:29:37.320 Samia says, you knew enough about their friendship to say 1:29:37.439 --> 1:29:40.639 that my mom bought your mom's daycare. 1:29:41.840 --> 1:29:44.919 Porsche said, everyone knows that. It's not a secret. 1:29:45.960 --> 1:29:49.919 Then Shamiah says, everybody doesn't know that your mom. 1:29:49.960 --> 1:29:51.200 Tried to sleep with my dad. 1:29:53.600 --> 1:29:56.800 Porsche then says, you and your mother are low down, 1:29:56.880 --> 1:30:01.360 dirty snakes. Porsia said, if my mother did something like that, 1:30:01.760 --> 1:30:06.200 it's on my mama and it's not true. Porscha said, 1:30:06.240 --> 1:30:08.680 you know what, I knew that you would come up 1:30:08.760 --> 1:30:12.920 with this, cause I did tell my mom this, and 1:30:13.800 --> 1:30:17.719 my mom said she was surprised to hear that because 1:30:17.800 --> 1:30:23.519 Shamiah's mom slept with Shamiah's father's brother. Samiah didn't asked 1:30:23.600 --> 1:30:26.400 which brother. Porsia said she doesn't know, and the whole 1:30:26.439 --> 1:30:29.759 table fell out. I want to start with you, Claudia, 1:30:34.439 --> 1:30:36.240 what do you have to say about that moment? 1:30:37.479 --> 1:30:42.200 Those aren't real friends, real friends, mad Day, It's all 1:30:42.280 --> 1:30:42.920 coming out. 1:30:45.320 --> 1:30:46.360 Again, the mother thing. 1:30:46.600 --> 1:30:48.439 At first, it seemed like they were trying to keep 1:30:48.479 --> 1:30:50.400 it somewhere. Who do you think was wrong first? 1:30:50.439 --> 1:30:50.599 Though? 1:30:50.680 --> 1:30:53.920 With the mother thing? Bring the mom who violated first? 1:30:55.240 --> 1:30:59.479 Who do y'all think Porsche? Right? 1:31:00.000 --> 1:31:03.240 Because Shemiah remember Shemia had a failed reunion last year, right, 1:31:03.400 --> 1:31:04.599 she kind of got read down. 1:31:04.640 --> 1:31:06.320 We were like, damn man, wake it up. She didn't 1:31:06.360 --> 1:31:06.960 really come with it. 1:31:07.000 --> 1:31:09.960 Like we thought, and she said, I'm not gonna say that. 1:31:10.320 --> 1:31:13.120 She was trying to hold back, and so Porscha said 1:31:13.120 --> 1:31:17.040 the thing first. Right now, it's so damn ugly. Now, 1:31:21.400 --> 1:31:23.760 I don't know, I don't know. 1:31:23.760 --> 1:31:24.400 What to say about this. 1:31:24.600 --> 1:31:26.120 At this point, the mothers need to be on the 1:31:26.120 --> 1:31:29.200 show like it's it's it's so much bigger than these two. 1:31:30.560 --> 1:31:33.240 Porscha did go left first with the mom thing, and 1:31:33.320 --> 1:31:34.840 now it's just back and forth, and now they just 1:31:34.880 --> 1:31:40.680 gotta out gutter each other. I don't know, Carlos, I 1:31:40.760 --> 1:31:41.640 kind of forgot no. 1:31:41.880 --> 1:31:43.680 I think this, I think this, and that's what I'm 1:31:43.680 --> 1:31:52.280 gonna tap you in next listen. This was extremely hard 1:31:52.360 --> 1:31:56.040 to watch. I obviously. 1:31:57.280 --> 1:31:59.559 Have been privy to a lot of things that happens 1:31:59.600 --> 1:32:02.599 off camp, and one thing I always told myself when 1:32:02.680 --> 1:32:06.040 I started the podcast and month in my live started 1:32:06.520 --> 1:32:09.599 that I will always keep things to the show because 1:32:09.640 --> 1:32:11.959 I don't think it's fair that people aren't. 1:32:11.720 --> 1:32:14.880 Here to defend themselves on the stuff that I may 1:32:15.000 --> 1:32:16.040 know or be privy to. 1:32:16.920 --> 1:32:23.040 Right, I know for a fact that portion Shamiya, there 1:32:23.200 --> 1:32:24.760 was love there, and that's why I did say to 1:32:24.840 --> 1:32:27.840 the both of them to their faces and interview that 1:32:28.080 --> 1:32:30.240 seeing your friendship breaks my heart. 1:32:31.080 --> 1:32:36.759 And and it was it was nasty. It was nasty. 1:32:37.640 --> 1:32:40.559 I will say this, I'm not picking a side here 1:32:40.800 --> 1:32:46.040 because it's bigger than all of us, and because I 1:32:46.320 --> 1:32:49.920 know them both personally, I'm not going to pick a side. 1:32:50.760 --> 1:32:55.600 What I will say though, being fair and basing this 1:32:55.840 --> 1:33:03.760 on the show, I do believe that Shemiah went in 1:33:04.640 --> 1:33:14.320 to that dinner determined to reveal what Portia's mom allegedly did. 1:33:15.439 --> 1:33:22.240 And the reason why I say that is because from 1:33:22.320 --> 1:33:23.880 what I've been watching. 1:33:25.120 --> 1:33:29.959 And what I saw prior to Shami revealing it, Samilla 1:33:30.200 --> 1:33:31.439 was Shmiah was. 1:33:31.520 --> 1:33:34.200 Ready to say it, and she wanted to say it, 1:33:34.520 --> 1:33:37.479 and she wanted that to come out. And for that, 1:33:38.080 --> 1:33:43.439 I will say Samiah was wrong for bringing up that part. Why, right, 1:33:44.240 --> 1:33:48.080 I feel like this if me and Dustin been for instance, fourteen, 1:33:48.680 --> 1:33:52.320 had to break seventeen through twenty two, got back up 1:33:52.439 --> 1:33:56.599 friends at twenty three, and we know about each other. 1:33:58.880 --> 1:34:03.200 I'm a mama's boy. I that's my you know. 1:34:04.360 --> 1:34:07.320 I'm not going to have our issues be anything that 1:34:07.479 --> 1:34:10.960 I will say about our mothers. I do feel like 1:34:11.360 --> 1:34:14.960 Shemiah was wrong for bringing up the mom's part to 1:34:15.080 --> 1:34:18.680 reveal that, because I don't think that anything happened for 1:34:18.840 --> 1:34:26.320 that particular expose to be revealed. If if you are 1:34:26.479 --> 1:34:31.160 upset that Porsha doesn't want you and gerald Rmand Polar, 1:34:32.840 --> 1:34:35.840 I was with you when you felt that. I look 1:34:35.920 --> 1:34:40.679 at Polar like, you know whatever, Nothing to me made 1:34:40.800 --> 1:34:44.519 sense why I had to find out on camera that 1:34:44.760 --> 1:34:50.439 Porsia's mom allegedly slept with, allegedly wanted to sleep with 1:34:50.680 --> 1:34:54.839 Smia's dead Nothing to me warranted that information to be released. 1:34:55.240 --> 1:34:58.559 I think Shemia's fed up. I think Shemia is tired. 1:34:59.040 --> 1:35:01.840 I think Shemia has a lot of shit bottled in 1:35:02.520 --> 1:35:06.559 And I think Shemiah used the opportunity to hurt Porsche 1:35:07.560 --> 1:35:10.360 and she knew what to do, and I think Porscha 1:35:11.760 --> 1:35:15.240 knew Shemia was ready to do it, which is why 1:35:15.760 --> 1:35:20.280 not all makes sense to me, which is why Porscha 1:35:20.520 --> 1:35:26.759 spent the entire season giving Shemia nothing because she knew, 1:35:28.240 --> 1:35:31.880 I'm not going to give you any reason to say it. 1:35:33.400 --> 1:35:36.600 I'm not going to give you any reason to say it. 1:35:36.880 --> 1:35:39.040 I do feel like Porschia knew Shemia was going to 1:35:39.120 --> 1:35:42.760 reveal it because Porsche actually said it. I knew he 1:35:42.880 --> 1:35:47.719 was going to say that, And Porscha also knew, Okay, 1:35:48.320 --> 1:35:51.360 if Shamia ever brings this up, I know what to 1:35:51.520 --> 1:35:56.960 say in retaliation to it. Why she said, well, no, 1:35:57.880 --> 1:36:04.599 your mom slept with your dad's brother. In that moment, 1:36:06.280 --> 1:36:14.040 I knew that these two will never be friends ever 1:36:14.120 --> 1:36:17.800 in life, and I just don't feel like. 1:36:19.560 --> 1:36:22.840 I needed to know that ever in life. 1:36:23.560 --> 1:36:26.120 How was Shamiah wrong for planning to come to the 1:36:26.200 --> 1:36:30.240 table and drop that bombshell? But Porscha was right for saying, well, 1:36:30.400 --> 1:36:32.680 I know Shamiah might drop that bomb cell, so if 1:36:32.760 --> 1:36:40.000 she do, I'm gonna drop this one because. 1:36:38.439 --> 1:36:40.840 If you clunch me, you can't tell me how to 1:36:40.960 --> 1:36:41.439 react to. 1:36:44.200 --> 1:36:46.799 So you don't think Shamiah, You don't think Porscha punched 1:36:46.800 --> 1:36:50.840 Shamiyah by making that Instagram post saying yo, mama went 1:36:50.920 --> 1:36:55.440 and bought my mama's daycare, and offering detail and context 1:36:55.560 --> 1:36:58.640 to a conflict that we knew vaguely existed, but we 1:36:58.720 --> 1:36:59.960 didn't know any details about. 1:37:00.280 --> 1:37:01.800 That's the first punch, right, No. 1:37:02.080 --> 1:37:04.280 Exactly exactly, but to blues point. 1:37:04.560 --> 1:37:07.759 But to blues point, you then can't go on Andy 1:37:07.880 --> 1:37:12.120 Cohen's couch in your yellow dress and say in front 1:37:12.160 --> 1:37:14.720 of the world when Andy Cohen asked you, what did 1:37:14.800 --> 1:37:17.160 her mom do? I don't want to say it. I 1:37:17.240 --> 1:37:19.200 don't want to say it. I want to keep it cute. 1:37:19.840 --> 1:37:21.720 You have to pick which which you know what I mean? 1:37:23.920 --> 1:37:27.280 So that was me And listen when Claudia asked a 1:37:27.360 --> 1:37:30.280 question who made the first hit Porsche? 1:37:30.560 --> 1:37:33.840 Right with that comment, Andy Comen did his job as 1:37:33.880 --> 1:37:34.679 as a host. 1:37:35.560 --> 1:37:39.639 What did Shmia? What happened between your mothers? I don't 1:37:39.640 --> 1:37:41.840 want to talk about it because when I do, it's. 1:37:41.720 --> 1:37:43.160 Gonna it's gonna it's gonna ruin ship. 1:37:44.160 --> 1:37:48.559 If that's how you felt in Andy Cohen's couch, then 1:37:48.640 --> 1:37:52.920 then then, my sweet love, what did Porsche do this 1:37:53.160 --> 1:37:57.120 season for that to be revealed? Because that the moment 1:37:57.200 --> 1:37:59.360 for that to be revealed would be at the reunion 1:37:59.760 --> 1:38:01.479 and let's be clear even after. 1:38:01.400 --> 1:38:04.800 Reunion, and I'm gonna be very fair. If Shemiah would 1:38:04.800 --> 1:38:05.520 have revealed. 1:38:05.200 --> 1:38:07.600 It after reunion, I would have said, well, shit, you 1:38:07.720 --> 1:38:08.840 have every right to say it, bitch. 1:38:09.200 --> 1:38:09.960 I wouldn't say it. 1:38:10.080 --> 1:38:14.320 It's dirty, it's nasty, but hey, bitch, this is the 1:38:14.400 --> 1:38:18.720 opportunity to to say the ship not during hiatus. You 1:38:18.800 --> 1:38:24.479 thought about it and then Dustin. I'm aware of what 1:38:24.800 --> 1:38:27.360 was allegedly said and the text messages. 1:38:28.439 --> 1:38:28.800 We're not. 1:38:31.000 --> 1:38:31.200 Well. 1:38:32.479 --> 1:38:36.519 Despite what people say on the blogs, I'm a good 1:38:36.560 --> 1:38:37.799 friend and I'm not messy. 1:38:37.960 --> 1:38:38.000 No. 1:38:38.439 --> 1:38:42.160 The thing is this, I'm. 1:38:41.040 --> 1:38:45.479 Privy to some things that were said because it's Atlanta 1:38:45.840 --> 1:38:47.000 and I am. 1:38:47.080 --> 1:38:53.960 Keisha Lan's top, so I'm aware of it. You know, 1:38:55.120 --> 1:38:58.360 I'm the Queen of Atlanta again again. 1:38:58.840 --> 1:39:00.479 And it's been said on the show before. 1:39:01.040 --> 1:39:05.240 You can't poke a bear or say something about someone 1:39:05.280 --> 1:39:07.439 else and then be mad about how they respond. 1:39:07.560 --> 1:39:08.840 It doesn't only go one. 1:39:08.760 --> 1:39:12.760 Way where we did this, so don't get mad when 1:39:12.840 --> 1:39:16.559 Porsche comes back. It's they're both going low, they're both 1:39:16.600 --> 1:39:20.280 going on. I'm gonna say this, I questioned their friendship now, uh, 1:39:20.360 --> 1:39:21.439 you know, mad. 1:39:21.320 --> 1:39:22.639 Days revealing a whole one. 1:39:24.800 --> 1:39:28.080 I don't mean right now, Blue, I mean like, because 1:39:28.920 --> 1:39:31.519 have you had a friend that it went left, but 1:39:31.640 --> 1:39:33.240 you never told some things about them? 1:39:33.439 --> 1:39:35.920 Absolutely? Yes, absolutely. 1:39:37.680 --> 1:39:40.040 The seed the seed was was rotten because it wasn't 1:39:40.040 --> 1:39:40.639 based on the truth. 1:39:41.160 --> 1:39:42.040 I wasn't your real friends. 1:39:42.080 --> 1:39:45.960 So now Shemiah never told Porscha's t about the mother 1:39:46.600 --> 1:39:49.439 until por Porscha went first, so then Porsche then she 1:39:49.800 --> 1:39:52.800 came back. And don't you think now that Porsche's on 1:39:52.880 --> 1:39:55.560 social media right now saying all the stuff saying Samias 1:39:55.600 --> 1:39:57.680 slept with this one and that one. She's shown her 1:39:57.720 --> 1:40:00.240 ass right now. She has shown her ass. And do 1:40:00.320 --> 1:40:04.880 you think that Shemiah does not have similar ty on 1:40:05.040 --> 1:40:07.160 Porscha's life. When you're best feats with someone, you tell 1:40:07.200 --> 1:40:09.960 them all your dirty shit. You tell them this one 1:40:10.000 --> 1:40:12.880 gave me, I cheated, I did this, I did that. 1:40:13.000 --> 1:40:15.840 I'm sure they got nasty secrets and I don't. And 1:40:15.920 --> 1:40:16.559 I think some of the. 1:40:16.560 --> 1:40:18.880 Reasons why they were both holding back during the season 1:40:19.160 --> 1:40:21.479 is because they know if I really wanted to bitch, 1:40:22.000 --> 1:40:23.920 and I'm not saying to you the one to both 1:40:23.920 --> 1:40:25.680 of them, I can really let your ass up, I 1:40:25.760 --> 1:40:27.680 can really get it active up in here. I got all, 1:40:27.920 --> 1:40:30.320 they both know where both they both know where the 1:40:30.360 --> 1:40:31.960 bodies are buried for both of them, right, So I 1:40:32.040 --> 1:40:33.760 think that was really a little bit stopping them. 1:40:33.800 --> 1:40:34.800 Now the gloves are off. 1:40:35.160 --> 1:40:39.200 But like on both occasions, it has been as annoying 1:40:39.240 --> 1:40:42.040 as you may think Shemia is. On both occasions, it 1:40:42.240 --> 1:40:44.439 was Porscha that went first with the mother. 1:40:44.560 --> 1:40:47.920 Things clear with the business. 1:40:48.800 --> 1:40:51.560 I want to be clear because we have to be 1:40:51.680 --> 1:40:56.680 fair when we say Porscha went first. Porsche did go first. 1:40:56.479 --> 1:41:01.960 Revealing something about the moment, but we're being technical. 1:41:02.320 --> 1:41:08.800 Shamia when first telling Cynthia and scene that there is 1:41:09.000 --> 1:41:12.200 something going on between Porscha's. 1:41:11.880 --> 1:41:16.800 Between their mothers, which propelled Porsche to tweet. 1:41:16.520 --> 1:41:19.400 That, Okay, that's what I'm saying. 1:41:23.240 --> 1:41:23.960 We're going to be fair. 1:41:24.280 --> 1:41:29.120 Samia told Cynthia on camera that something was going on 1:41:29.240 --> 1:41:33.320 with their mothers, and and and and Shamia didn't reveal 1:41:33.400 --> 1:41:34.080 it so much. 1:41:34.600 --> 1:41:37.599 Now granted now, granted, I won't want to be fair again. 1:41:38.560 --> 1:41:42.280 When they played that scene Miss Diane, they flashed back 1:41:42.320 --> 1:41:45.040 to Miss Diane's saying the comment about trusting the dog 1:41:45.120 --> 1:41:47.719 with the bone, but I want to be very fair. 1:41:47.920 --> 1:41:51.519 Samilla did tell Cynthia belly first son is going on 1:41:51.560 --> 1:41:56.360 with the mothers. Then Porscha on a Saturday after getting 1:41:56.400 --> 1:42:00.600 the episode in the dance is when she responded to that, 1:42:00.840 --> 1:42:02.879 saying wrong road agree, jous. 1:42:04.320 --> 1:42:06.920 But is that is that so bad to say something's 1:42:06.960 --> 1:42:07.680 going on on mom? 1:42:07.840 --> 1:42:10.880 But that's what I'm saying. I wanted to be fair. 1:42:12.960 --> 1:42:14.040 I'm with Claudia on this. 1:42:14.800 --> 1:42:17.400 It's very different to say that there's an issue between 1:42:17.479 --> 1:42:20.120 our moms as opposed to saying your mom is fraudulent 1:42:20.240 --> 1:42:21.320 and stole a daycare. 1:42:24.080 --> 1:42:28.840 I agree, I agree, which is why you worry about 1:42:28.840 --> 1:42:29.240 your kids? 1:42:29.400 --> 1:42:30.679 Why are you talking about my kids? 1:42:30.840 --> 1:42:31.760 That's not what they're doing. 1:42:32.439 --> 1:42:35.680 I agree with you. That's what I said, Shemia. My 1:42:35.800 --> 1:42:36.200 thing is this. 1:42:36.560 --> 1:42:39.840 Shamiah said it first to Cynthia, something's with my mother. 1:42:40.280 --> 1:42:44.000 Portia then said your mother did this? Shamia had the 1:42:44.080 --> 1:42:46.000 opportunity at Andy Comens reunion. 1:42:46.320 --> 1:42:46.960 What did she do? 1:42:47.800 --> 1:42:51.479 Say it there? You can't say I'm not gonna say it. 1:42:51.880 --> 1:42:53.680 You want to save it though she wanted to say that, 1:42:54.880 --> 1:42:55.760 say it a year later. 1:42:56.240 --> 1:42:57.960 I agree with you, guys. 1:42:58.360 --> 1:43:01.920 What do you say to her explanation Carlos that she 1:43:02.160 --> 1:43:07.439 was trying to set to to she was trying to 1:43:07.640 --> 1:43:10.880 keep whatever connect whatever bear thread thread bare connection. 1:43:11.040 --> 1:43:11.599 You know what I'm saying. 1:43:11.640 --> 1:43:12.040 They had. 1:43:12.400 --> 1:43:14.000 She was trying to keep that in text, so she 1:43:14.080 --> 1:43:18.680 didn't want to go that far with offering up details, right. 1:43:18.760 --> 1:43:21.160 She wasn't really to offer of details, So that is 1:43:21.320 --> 1:43:24.920 why she chose not to reveal the information at the reunion. Also, 1:43:25.040 --> 1:43:26.679 what do you say to the people who say, ain't 1:43:26.720 --> 1:43:29.320 no motherfucking rules and fighting? I can know so much 1:43:29.360 --> 1:43:31.599 your goddamn mama and tell you two years from now. 1:43:32.439 --> 1:43:33.320 So I agree with that. 1:43:33.840 --> 1:43:35.920 That's why I said at the top of this and Blue, 1:43:36.080 --> 1:43:39.280 I'm gonna get you next. That's why I said, we're. 1:43:39.200 --> 1:43:44.200 Not the moral police. It's an issue of this person 1:43:44.400 --> 1:43:48.400 is plainly right, plainly wrong. This is a very nuanced situation. 1:43:49.080 --> 1:43:54.200 All we're doing, all we're doing, rain Drops, is talking 1:43:54.240 --> 1:43:55.760 about what happened on the show. 1:43:56.160 --> 1:43:58.120 I just said, I actually know what was said in 1:43:58.160 --> 1:44:01.200 the text messages. I'm not gonna reveal it. I knew 1:44:01.200 --> 1:44:04.560 their friendship was over based on what I was allegedly 1:44:04.720 --> 1:44:07.960 told what the text message were about. I said, y'all 1:44:07.960 --> 1:44:08.479 ain't friends. 1:44:08.960 --> 1:44:13.880 Yeah, But my point is I always say what we're 1:44:13.920 --> 1:44:16.679 gonna do is stick to the show, and I'm sticking 1:44:16.720 --> 1:44:21.360 to the show. Miss Diane made his comment, but but 1:44:21.560 --> 1:44:24.000 but but, Shemiah did I know she made it until 1:44:24.080 --> 1:44:27.919 the reunion? Until she saw it, Shamillah told Porsche Tamia 1:44:28.479 --> 1:44:32.200 met with Cynthia first and said something. Porcha then responded 1:44:32.400 --> 1:44:36.720 and revealed more about what would happened. Samia was then 1:44:36.840 --> 1:44:39.240 asked by Andy, what what do you have to say 1:44:39.240 --> 1:44:41.160 about it? Shemiah said, I don't want to talk about it. 1:44:41.160 --> 1:44:43.680 I don't want to expose it. And then we're here, 1:44:47.240 --> 1:44:48.680 so Blue, what do you have to say about all 1:44:48.680 --> 1:44:48.800 of this? 1:44:49.960 --> 1:44:54.200 I really light work? 1:44:54.800 --> 1:44:59.439 Sure Carlos to pass out. 1:45:00.200 --> 1:45:02.160 We all felt that he said a run on paragraph 1:45:02.200 --> 1:45:03.640 and that said, so back to. 1:45:03.680 --> 1:45:07.559 You, Blue, not the way we have two hundred super chats, 1:45:07.680 --> 1:45:09.439 right job? I love y'all. 1:45:09.760 --> 1:45:10.120 I don't know. 1:45:11.920 --> 1:45:13.840 Dollars from that super chat? Is my eyes too. I 1:45:14.000 --> 1:45:15.240 forgot about baby girlfriend. 1:45:16.520 --> 1:45:22.040 Go ahead, that one had my name. 1:45:24.000 --> 1:45:25.479 You know you should you should get that. 1:45:25.880 --> 1:45:29.439 You should have got a bottle, go ahead, Blue. 1:45:30.000 --> 1:45:31.880 I'm just fighting my DH right now because I'm like, 1:45:31.920 --> 1:45:33.200 we should have take another ball. 1:45:33.240 --> 1:45:33.680 Okay, So. 1:45:35.320 --> 1:45:39.040 I'm gonna say this right because to me, how this 1:45:39.200 --> 1:45:42.559 is tricky when you're having a fight with somebody since 1:45:42.640 --> 1:45:44.599 Dustin mentioned street dudes, because you know that's my favorite 1:45:44.640 --> 1:45:47.559 topic today. When you're having a fight with somebody, Right, 1:45:48.080 --> 1:45:50.960 if you hit me first and you have a bad punch, 1:45:51.040 --> 1:45:52.519 and I hit you first, and I know how to fight, 1:45:54.200 --> 1:45:56.640 any response I give you, you're gonna fall over as 1:45:56.680 --> 1:45:58.280 somebody who doesn't know how to fight. The reason I 1:45:58.360 --> 1:46:01.840 don't fight because I'm good at it. Right, I know 1:46:01.960 --> 1:46:03.360 that if you hit me and I hit you, it's. 1:46:03.240 --> 1:46:04.760 Not the same hit. It's never gonna be the same hit. 1:46:05.200 --> 1:46:07.120 My version of a light hit. I'm still going to jail. 1:46:07.200 --> 1:46:11.559 Right. I'm saying that to say Porsche figuratively and literally 1:46:11.560 --> 1:46:14.960 because I know people who have seen her in professional 1:46:15.080 --> 1:46:16.560 settings and said that she was strong. And there's a 1:46:16.600 --> 1:46:18.519 story that I heard, Carlos, I'll tell you later behind 1:46:18.560 --> 1:46:22.960 the scenes. I know somebody who says I picked her up. Yes, 1:46:23.320 --> 1:46:26.800 normal muscle mass from what I've heard, Okay, as someone 1:46:26.840 --> 1:46:30.479 who can fight literally and figuratively, there's no porsia response. 1:46:30.560 --> 1:46:32.839 That's like, guys, can we just if we can respect 1:46:33.080 --> 1:46:35.080 the nature of Shemia, can we also respect the nature 1:46:35.080 --> 1:46:37.320 of Porsche. It's not favorites it's just being objective actually, 1:46:37.400 --> 1:46:39.400 despite the fact that people don't always know how to 1:46:39.479 --> 1:46:39.640 do that. 1:46:40.080 --> 1:46:40.760 There are people who. 1:46:40.640 --> 1:46:44.040 Gonna think I'm caping for Porsche just because I'm following 1:46:44.080 --> 1:46:46.360 the same rules for both of them. Whoever Shemia is, 1:46:46.439 --> 1:46:49.280 I've been following that threat this entire time. Whoever Porsche is, 1:46:49.320 --> 1:46:51.519 I've been following that through this entire time. I'm never 1:46:51.600 --> 1:46:55.600 gonna cross pollinate them because again, yes, so Porscha's a 1:46:55.640 --> 1:46:58.599 heavy hitter. Any response from Porsche is a Mali wop. 1:46:59.160 --> 1:47:02.200 I think we can all agree to that. Shamia is covert. 1:47:02.600 --> 1:47:05.000 Any hit from her is gonna begrudging. Why are you 1:47:05.080 --> 1:47:05.680 making me fight? 1:47:05.720 --> 1:47:07.240 You know, the girl who's crying while she beating upcause 1:47:07.280 --> 1:47:09.520 you don't even want to fight. Shamia is a completely 1:47:09.600 --> 1:47:13.240 different fighter. So it completely makes sense to me that 1:47:13.400 --> 1:47:15.880 when Shamiah says something, it's gonna be a soft hit. 1:47:16.439 --> 1:47:20.479 If Porscha ever responds molly wop when Shamia's asked, well, 1:47:20.520 --> 1:47:25.040 confront it right that Andy confrontation only required a heavy hit. 1:47:25.280 --> 1:47:27.360 Shamia doesn't heavy hit. If she has a first option, 1:47:28.120 --> 1:47:29.200 she's gonna always. 1:47:29.000 --> 1:47:31.759 Choose to pick the softer thing, because again, her branding 1:47:31.840 --> 1:47:35.559 is she's everybody's good friend. Someone who's everybody's good friend 1:47:35.800 --> 1:47:38.280 is tactful. They know how to say it in the sideways. 1:47:38.439 --> 1:47:40.719 They're never too blunt because they don't want to ruffle feathers. 1:47:40.920 --> 1:47:43.439 She's actually excellent at that, except when it's time for 1:47:43.520 --> 1:47:45.519 a street fight with a bitch who can fight. Yes, 1:47:46.200 --> 1:47:48.720 what's happening is I think at some point this is 1:47:48.760 --> 1:47:52.439 actually all of your points Porsche clocked. The girl who's 1:47:52.439 --> 1:47:55.600 gonna win meal and can't fight wants it with me. 1:47:56.040 --> 1:47:57.960 If I cough on her, she's gonna be in a cast. 1:47:58.840 --> 1:48:00.760 I'm gonna choose. And by the way, this is not 1:48:00.840 --> 1:48:02.880 keeping for Portia, it's just telling her strategy. Again we 1:48:02.960 --> 1:48:05.080 agree on I'm going to ignore her because if I 1:48:05.120 --> 1:48:07.679 even try to meet her where she's at, I'm immediately 1:48:07.720 --> 1:48:11.280 the bully because I fight different. When that girl finally 1:48:11.320 --> 1:48:13.599 gets in the fight with you, it's gonna be ugly. 1:48:13.880 --> 1:48:16.479 And I'm gonna say this, I hated everything about that 1:48:16.640 --> 1:48:19.559 scene my stomach. 1:48:20.120 --> 1:48:23.280 I'm not taking anybody's side in that scene. They both 1:48:23.360 --> 1:48:24.040 disgusted me. 1:48:25.520 --> 1:48:28.400 I'm also going to say they both disgusted me, and 1:48:28.520 --> 1:48:31.400 they fight differently, so we can't keep cross pollinating these 1:48:31.439 --> 1:48:34.160 false equivalencies because they've always been two different beasts. 1:48:34.360 --> 1:48:35.679 That's part of the problem. 1:48:35.920 --> 1:48:38.599 I actually think that if Shemiah was a beast like Porsche, 1:48:38.880 --> 1:48:41.320 she might have been more open to them being co 1:48:41.479 --> 1:48:43.400 host and not allies. Because I will say this is 1:48:43.439 --> 1:48:46.640 the strong friend the gentler friend. I won't say we, 1:48:46.760 --> 1:48:48.160 because I don't believe it'sweak to be gentle. 1:48:48.479 --> 1:48:50.960 The gentler friend requires stuff of you as the person 1:48:50.960 --> 1:48:52.439 who's naturally strong and strategic. 1:48:53.600 --> 1:48:55.639 There's a certain we all know this. There's a friend 1:48:55.680 --> 1:48:58.360 that we love who's not as able as us that 1:48:58.479 --> 1:49:00.800 we know. We love them to them to be around us, 1:49:00.960 --> 1:49:03.160 but there's more sweat equity for them to meet us 1:49:03.200 --> 1:49:07.920 at the audacity where we naturally reside at. So again, 1:49:08.280 --> 1:49:10.320 Portia predicted it, and she was right. So we're all 1:49:10.360 --> 1:49:12.360 debating how we feel about her being right about the 1:49:12.360 --> 1:49:12.960 things she predicted. 1:49:13.000 --> 1:49:13.479 Ten years ago. 1:49:14.000 --> 1:49:16.760 You said something about my Mama's going down. It's over 1:49:17.120 --> 1:49:19.280 flat the fuck out. I don't give a damn, especially 1:49:19.360 --> 1:49:20.080 something sexual. 1:49:20.640 --> 1:49:22.800 You say something about my mother to. 1:49:22.840 --> 1:49:24.240 Me, and you know what. 1:49:25.000 --> 1:49:29.519 I also remember when Miss Diane said some real shady 1:49:29.520 --> 1:49:32.400 sit about Uma about to watch the dog. 1:49:33.920 --> 1:49:36.760 And to Toma's defense, she could have she could have 1:49:36.840 --> 1:49:38.400 spased out then and she didn't. 1:49:38.640 --> 1:49:39.519 It's not her character. 1:49:39.640 --> 1:49:40.800 Yeah, she's not. 1:49:41.080 --> 1:49:42.920 I think that's the point we we're making, Like if 1:49:42.960 --> 1:49:47.280 there's listen, Like like Blue said, we're recapping the show, 1:49:47.600 --> 1:49:50.600 no one's camping for anybody, but we know, we know 1:49:50.720 --> 1:49:51.040 the chat. 1:49:51.120 --> 1:49:53.680 We'll say what they say, but I will say That's 1:49:53.760 --> 1:49:54.040 why I. 1:49:54.080 --> 1:49:58.559 Feel strongly, uh, if there was a moment to reveal 1:49:58.680 --> 1:50:00.559 that information, I. 1:50:00.840 --> 1:50:02.840 Just felt like it was much more suited at the 1:50:02.880 --> 1:50:05.559 reunion of last reunion. 1:50:05.880 --> 1:50:07.479 I get that she. 1:50:07.600 --> 1:50:10.599 Definitely themed like green at the reunion last year, though, 1:50:11.080 --> 1:50:13.080 like she wasn't right like I think this year we're 1:50:13.080 --> 1:50:15.200 gonna see a whole well, hopefully we see a different 1:50:15.200 --> 1:50:18.240 because I felt like so many misopportunities last union to 1:50:18.320 --> 1:50:21.200 be like a word, okay, big joke of bam, but 1:50:21.320 --> 1:50:21.600 she was. 1:50:21.720 --> 1:50:23.400 I think also at the reunion. 1:50:23.479 --> 1:50:25.200 She there was still a part of her that thought 1:50:25.240 --> 1:50:26.760 that her and Port could get back and still be 1:50:26.840 --> 1:50:27.479 friends at some point. 1:50:27.600 --> 1:50:30.160 That's why she said that, yeah, go there. 1:50:30.280 --> 1:50:32.720 She she wasn't gonna be all extra grimy with it, 1:50:33.520 --> 1:50:35.519 you know, that's what she's mourning. 1:50:35.960 --> 1:50:38.599 The thing that's breaking my heart is we're watching somebody moren. 1:50:40.920 --> 1:50:41.880 She's grieving. 1:50:43.360 --> 1:50:45.080 Somebody fighting at the funeral, rather. 1:50:45.000 --> 1:50:47.800 Than yeah, you see her face. 1:50:47.920 --> 1:50:50.559 I was like, we're going there. 1:50:50.960 --> 1:50:51.960 She called her mom. 1:50:52.360 --> 1:50:55.000 She called her mom because she her feelings were hurt 1:50:55.080 --> 1:50:58.360 that Portia was not open to reconciliation with her off 1:50:58.439 --> 1:51:02.000 the strength of the history. Okay, that's why when they 1:51:02.040 --> 1:51:04.439 were having that back and forth at the table, and 1:51:04.680 --> 1:51:07.679 Shemia said, in spite of it all, and as Porscha 1:51:07.800 --> 1:51:10.960 was like, in spite of what there is a dis like, 1:51:11.080 --> 1:51:15.400 Shemiah was holding on to reverence for the time spent. 1:51:16.240 --> 1:51:19.120 Porsche and SHEMI are now at a point where that's irrelevant, 1:51:19.240 --> 1:51:22.160 and it's heartbreaking to see as a person who like 1:51:22.240 --> 1:51:23.320 I value friendship. 1:51:23.560 --> 1:51:25.280 Y'all know, I'll give a fuck about y'all. You know 1:51:25.360 --> 1:51:25.880 what I'm saying. 1:51:25.960 --> 1:51:29.400 I'm willing to I say, I'm sorry, I don't give 1:51:29.439 --> 1:51:31.760 a fuck about none of that. Like that, humility is 1:51:31.800 --> 1:51:36.920 an essential component to like sustaining a friendship. But where 1:51:36.960 --> 1:51:39.840 they at now, it's just where it is and it's 1:51:39.960 --> 1:51:44.080 always been at. Their friendship was not rock solid anyway, 1:51:44.120 --> 1:51:46.760 because their moms were out over some very real shit 1:51:46.880 --> 1:51:48.800 so even if we saw them playing nice on a 1:51:48.880 --> 1:51:53.479 picture or in scene together on the show, it just 1:51:53.640 --> 1:51:54.559 was never solid. 1:51:54.600 --> 1:51:57.520 It was never a silent foundation, and unfortunately it's imploded. 1:51:58.200 --> 1:52:01.080 I hate to see the cat's booty. 1:52:02.680 --> 1:52:05.400 Putting her ask her kouchie in the camera like I'm 1:52:05.439 --> 1:52:08.960 like please, don't, I'm like stop. 1:52:10.040 --> 1:52:13.840 My final question of the night is what Blue brought up? 1:52:14.439 --> 1:52:20.160 And I want to ask the panel this based on 1:52:20.280 --> 1:52:28.080 what was revealed at a dinner where should obviously revealed 1:52:29.040 --> 1:52:33.880 be allegations If Porscha made that comment that she didn't 1:52:33.920 --> 1:52:37.680 want you to be on the show, does this moment. 1:52:38.000 --> 1:52:41.320 Now expose why she wouldn't want her on the show? 1:52:41.920 --> 1:52:45.880 If that is the case in the in nature of 1:52:46.000 --> 1:52:50.439 it being a conflict or point of no return for them, yes, 1:52:51.240 --> 1:52:54.000 but that's the only way. It just is an example 1:52:54.080 --> 1:52:57.799 of their friendship breaking down in a way that Porsche, 1:52:58.360 --> 1:53:02.920 I would assume, was trying to avoid by not being 1:53:03.120 --> 1:53:04.920 welcoming to Samia being a part. 1:53:04.760 --> 1:53:07.400 Of this cast full time. But that's it. 1:53:07.560 --> 1:53:09.400 I don't think it's a unique thing. Like Shemiah, you 1:53:09.560 --> 1:53:11.720 did exactly what I knew you was gonna do. No, 1:53:12.120 --> 1:53:15.000 it was just ports just saying hey, there's a possibility, 1:53:15.040 --> 1:53:17.080 I shit might get fucked up if you join, don't 1:53:17.120 --> 1:53:19.720 do it, and now she joining that shit is fucked up. 1:53:20.400 --> 1:53:22.920 I think it's just it's like top level, you know 1:53:22.960 --> 1:53:23.559 what I'm saying. 1:53:26.800 --> 1:53:29.800 I think it's a mid tier because you know why 1:53:29.960 --> 1:53:31.519 then Mama's talk too damn much, Dustin. 1:53:32.240 --> 1:53:33.160 I think it's a mid tier. 1:53:33.320 --> 1:53:35.320 I think the reason why Polar can't go to your 1:53:35.360 --> 1:53:37.200 house because I know that I'm gonna hear She's gonna 1:53:37.200 --> 1:53:38.160 hear the kind of shit that we heard. 1:53:38.800 --> 1:53:40.160 Yeah, And I think so. 1:53:40.200 --> 1:53:40.920 I don't think it's time. 1:53:40.960 --> 1:53:43.400 I think it's mid as Like I know how your 1:53:43.439 --> 1:53:45.080 mama gets down and the kind of shit you and 1:53:45.120 --> 1:53:46.840 your mama probably talk to each other. I know the 1:53:46.920 --> 1:53:48.720 kind of shit me and my mama talks to each other. 1:53:49.040 --> 1:53:51.800 I know that shit talking has happened. They've fallen out, 1:53:51.920 --> 1:53:53.240 and we've already fallen out. 1:53:53.320 --> 1:53:54.880 This is not like Lou's clues. 1:53:54.560 --> 1:53:58.439 Here, right, Like, I think it's a thing of things are. 1:53:58.560 --> 1:54:01.559 We're tricky for us before we reunited and it felt 1:54:01.600 --> 1:54:05.240 so good, and it's tricky for us generationally, and even 1:54:05.360 --> 1:54:07.479 on the show, we keep on seeing my mama making 1:54:07.520 --> 1:54:10.800 little snide remarks I know this can go left because 1:54:10.840 --> 1:54:12.760 the people outside of us, it's not even just about us, 1:54:13.640 --> 1:54:15.479 and so I think it was a little bit deeper 1:54:15.560 --> 1:54:18.120 than top tier. I think that because they had just 1:54:18.240 --> 1:54:21.600 rekindled when the conversation was even had, and because we 1:54:21.720 --> 1:54:23.960 know their mother's talk shit. Well, sorry, miss Diane has 1:54:24.000 --> 1:54:26.639 made little comments on camera which tells you what's happening 1:54:26.640 --> 1:54:30.360 behind the scenes. I think it was discernment saying I 1:54:30.439 --> 1:54:33.920 don't think this ecosystem US included is strong enough, because 1:54:33.960 --> 1:54:37.040 I've seen bitches who had less to lose fall apart. 1:54:38.240 --> 1:54:39.760 I think it's discernment. And here's the thing, guys. 1:54:39.960 --> 1:54:42.160 Someone can be strategic, they can be fake, they can 1:54:42.240 --> 1:54:44.600 be a villain, they can be putting it on for 1:54:44.680 --> 1:54:45.200 the camera and. 1:54:45.240 --> 1:54:49.200 Still have discernment. Discernment just means I'm clocking the entire room, 1:54:49.440 --> 1:54:53.560 and accordingly that's all. It means. She's savvy. 1:54:53.640 --> 1:54:55.200 We all agree she's savvag, So why would it be 1:54:55.240 --> 1:54:57.600 shocking that she was savy enough to peep this because 1:54:57.840 --> 1:54:58.800 none of this is new. 1:54:59.320 --> 1:55:01.480 Because she said two hundred and sixty five. 1:55:05.840 --> 1:55:16.760 A broken a broken clock, Listen, I don't I don't 1:55:16.840 --> 1:55:18.520 like people that know each other's business. 1:55:18.680 --> 1:55:22.320 Falling out that actually liked each other. 1:55:22.640 --> 1:55:25.800 I do question how deep they're real friendship was in 1:55:25.800 --> 1:55:29.320 the beginning, because there's a certain thing again, Mad Day 1:55:29.560 --> 1:55:30.120 show it all. 1:55:30.400 --> 1:55:31.800 Mad Day will show you what kind of friends you 1:55:31.880 --> 1:55:32.240 really were. 1:55:32.320 --> 1:55:34.880 And I don't even think that they There was hesitations 1:55:34.920 --> 1:55:37.080 about reservations about Sami being on the show because of 1:55:37.120 --> 1:55:40.320 their moms. I think because Shemiah knows what your bones 1:55:40.320 --> 1:55:43.640 are bought, your bodies are buried, and Portia knows what 1:55:43.760 --> 1:55:44.360 shemis are. 1:55:44.400 --> 1:55:45.480 They both have too much. 1:55:45.560 --> 1:55:48.160 And you see now on Twitter how left it's going, 1:55:48.240 --> 1:55:50.320 and it is gonna to be asking because guess what 1:55:50.400 --> 1:55:53.720 Samid has the right to do. Now get on Twitter 1:55:53.760 --> 1:55:57.000 and say, oh, okay, you said I you let's talk 1:55:57.040 --> 1:55:59.600 about what she was doing doing your marriage or during 1:55:59.640 --> 1:56:01.840 your this, during that, And it's gonna get real bad 1:56:01.920 --> 1:56:04.360 for both of them. And I think this is what 1:56:04.600 --> 1:56:07.520 Questua was afraid of in the beginning, not really about oh, 1:56:07.520 --> 1:56:08.320 it's gonna mess. 1:56:08.160 --> 1:56:09.760 Up my friend. She got your tea. 1:56:09.840 --> 1:56:11.560 You don't want someone on the show that you might 1:56:11.800 --> 1:56:14.320 while out with and know it's all your dirt. But 1:56:14.400 --> 1:56:16.000 if you have a real friendship where it's like a 1:56:16.720 --> 1:56:20.280 I don't know this ship was their friends, but this 1:56:20.480 --> 1:56:20.720 is like. 1:56:20.760 --> 1:56:24.760 I want these kind of friends. Who needs enemies? 1:56:25.160 --> 1:56:29.560 But be prepared for some drops tonight on Instagram or Twitter, 1:56:29.560 --> 1:56:31.440 because it's probably gonna go back and forth with some 1:56:31.640 --> 1:56:33.640 nasty things, which sucks. 1:56:33.520 --> 1:56:34.040 You know, Like. 1:56:35.680 --> 1:56:37.160 You think she's and forth. 1:56:37.400 --> 1:56:38.320 I do because she. 1:56:40.480 --> 1:56:41.440 She came for her marriage. 1:56:42.680 --> 1:56:48.000 Respond she has to and I. 1:56:48.000 --> 1:56:50.160 Want to be mad as she did. You can't say 1:56:50.280 --> 1:56:51.480 did I cheat on my husband? 1:56:51.800 --> 1:56:55.440 And dropping almost receipts not receipts, but be specific, and 1:56:55.520 --> 1:56:56.240 I don't say nothing. 1:56:56.280 --> 1:56:59.120 And Tom is already feeling away. Our backs against the wall. 1:56:59.240 --> 1:56:59.720 It's final. 1:57:00.040 --> 1:57:02.000 What do I have to lose? It's about to get ugly. 1:57:02.040 --> 1:57:03.040 And I did not want this for them. 1:57:03.160 --> 1:57:05.440 Like as much as people think I don't like Porsche 1:57:05.440 --> 1:57:08.600 and all the shit, I do hate seeing that their 1:57:08.600 --> 1:57:09.800 friends of fall part because. 1:57:09.800 --> 1:57:12.080 They they had a fun little time they did. 1:57:12.520 --> 1:57:15.840 But it also works their friendship when Sam was in 1:57:15.920 --> 1:57:19.280 a supportive role and Porsche was the lead, and I 1:57:19.360 --> 1:57:23.720 think that's where that's where that's where it works. And 1:57:23.800 --> 1:57:25.280 I don't want friends that don't want me to be 1:57:25.360 --> 1:57:27.920 on their level that want me either. I don't want 1:57:28.000 --> 1:57:29.760 friends like that either. 1:57:30.360 --> 1:57:32.120 I don't want nobody like that around me, and I 1:57:32.200 --> 1:57:34.920 will never be like that, especially I'm a black gay man. 1:57:34.920 --> 1:57:37.440 I'm gonna leave the door open for people to come 1:57:37.520 --> 1:57:39.320 behind me that are qualified and ready. 1:57:39.720 --> 1:57:41.120 That's just the game. Number One. 1:57:41.240 --> 1:57:44.760 Carlos works in media, Carlos as a media company. I'm 1:57:44.800 --> 1:57:48.000 a host, I'm a comedian, I'm a writer. Carlos saw 1:57:48.080 --> 1:57:51.360 opportunity for me. What you're talking about, you know what 1:57:51.400 --> 1:57:53.680 I'm saying, like like, and let's not even let me 1:57:53.760 --> 1:57:58.680 be quiet because I'm talking too much, but you know, yeah, Like, 1:57:58.840 --> 1:58:03.720 I just think that it's possible to absolutely be friends 1:58:04.360 --> 1:58:08.839 and work towards the success of one another without ego, jealousy, 1:58:09.360 --> 1:58:10.120 any of that shit. 1:58:10.320 --> 1:58:13.160 I believe it's possible. And if it's not, if that's 1:58:13.200 --> 1:58:16.440 an issue in your friendship, you weren't real friends for real, 1:58:16.520 --> 1:58:17.920 for real to begin with. 1:58:18.520 --> 1:58:22.280 I also will add by saying this, just like in 1:58:22.680 --> 1:58:26.680 most marriages, right, and this is gonna sound archaic, I 1:58:26.840 --> 1:58:31.720 do believe in marriages you have to appoint one person 1:58:31.880 --> 1:58:34.840 to be the leader, and in some marriages it is 1:58:34.880 --> 1:58:37.040 the woman, and that's and I love that for the girls. 1:58:38.120 --> 1:58:42.240 Historically and biblically, it's been the man. But two people 1:58:42.320 --> 1:58:46.400 can lead one marriage. So my point is when you. 1:58:46.440 --> 1:58:49.160 Get married, before you get married, hopefully you have a 1:58:49.200 --> 1:58:52.560 conversation of which dynamic if this is going to. 1:58:53.240 --> 1:58:55.280 Fit for our relationship right? 1:58:56.040 --> 1:58:59.920 So what I would implore with friends working together, there's 1:59:00.080 --> 1:59:02.480 going to be dynamic whether your friend is the boss, 1:59:02.920 --> 1:59:06.320 and you have to listen to your boss and your 1:59:06.400 --> 1:59:08.960 boss makes the decisions, and you have to be okay 1:59:09.120 --> 1:59:11.440 with that if you know you have the spirit of 1:59:11.520 --> 1:59:15.280 leadership and your friend is the boss and you don't 1:59:15.280 --> 1:59:22.440 want to listenship, like, don't do it, don't do it, 1:59:22.640 --> 1:59:23.760 so listen. 1:59:24.080 --> 1:59:25.440 I will go on record saying this. 1:59:26.440 --> 1:59:29.600 I was like I said it, I said again, I 1:59:29.760 --> 1:59:32.880 was disgusted by everything last night based on that because 1:59:32.880 --> 1:59:35.400 I know both of those girls and I never thought 1:59:35.440 --> 1:59:36.200 this day would come. 1:59:36.960 --> 1:59:41.840 I was actually happy that episode. 1:59:41.440 --> 1:59:50.080 One Shomia mind the text versus saying it right, go ahead, Dustin. 1:59:50.200 --> 1:59:55.240 I appreciated that, and I appreciate it. Porscha is still. 1:59:55.040 --> 2:00:00.040 Inviting Shamia over her house. Yes, and when I saw so, 2:00:00.280 --> 2:00:04.000 my point is I thought they would leave it there. 2:00:04.760 --> 2:00:08.080 So to see where it ended up thirteen episodes later, 2:00:08.680 --> 2:00:09.840 it does make me very sad. 2:00:09.920 --> 2:00:13.200 For them, and I'm sorry, go ahead and for Portia 2:00:13.960 --> 2:00:18.760 Shamia and everybody else else watching the show. Be careful 2:00:19.040 --> 2:00:22.480 about friends. I want you to do well, but not 2:00:22.640 --> 2:00:29.760 better than them that I love with any bigger. 2:00:29.520 --> 2:00:31.720 Movings than me and is the lead and I'm having 2:00:31.720 --> 2:00:32.680 a support I love it. 2:00:33.080 --> 2:00:36.200 I'm going on, I love it genuinely for real, honestly. 2:00:36.560 --> 2:00:38.080 Yeah, my dog right there. 2:00:38.480 --> 2:00:41.520 But you know, I want nothing more than for my 2:00:41.640 --> 2:00:45.640 friends to see success beyond their wildish dreams, beyond anything. 2:00:45.760 --> 2:00:48.480 It's not from a competitive lens. Even some of my 2:00:48.600 --> 2:00:51.640 best kid Fury, one of my best friends, you know 2:00:51.720 --> 2:00:54.480 what I'm saying, Like I want to, I just don't. 2:00:54.760 --> 2:00:59.720 I have, I have and continue to exist in relationships 2:00:59.760 --> 2:01:02.120 where there is a complete absence of any sort of 2:01:02.840 --> 2:01:06.760 ego based anything, if anything. We found each other as confidant, 2:01:06.960 --> 2:01:08.840 you know what I'm saying that now we have someone 2:01:08.880 --> 2:01:12.920 who understands there's camaraderie there, not competition. 2:01:13.200 --> 2:01:15.440 So yeah, but to each his own. 2:01:17.520 --> 2:01:19.600 Treat you like an assistant, say with those friends that 2:01:19.680 --> 2:01:21.080 treat you like for a long time, and all these 2:01:21.080 --> 2:01:22.840 ballet shows, a lot of these women were bringing on 2:01:22.960 --> 2:01:24.040 gay man and treating them. 2:01:23.920 --> 2:01:26.800 Like they were, they were their assistants and their accessories. 2:01:27.080 --> 2:01:30.040 Don't launch your friends either. You get some shine they 2:01:30.080 --> 2:01:33.160 oh you've changed up, No, you are mad. You want 2:01:33.240 --> 2:01:35.640 me to be on a support sit. 2:01:35.560 --> 2:01:36.160 A role with you. 2:01:36.440 --> 2:01:38.400 But when I leveled up and I get some attention, 2:01:38.720 --> 2:01:40.520 now I'm a problem. I'm a cloud chase. So I 2:01:40.600 --> 2:01:41.280 want your life. 2:01:41.760 --> 2:01:43.720 Damn you? Did you want the best of me or 2:01:43.720 --> 2:01:44.840 you want to be just to be there to be 2:01:44.920 --> 2:01:45.560 your assistant? 2:01:45.800 --> 2:01:47.840 Here are your purse bag? Now I'm just playing because 2:01:47.840 --> 2:01:49.720 I wouldn't ever had it anyway. Your person would hit 2:01:49.800 --> 2:01:51.040 the floor trying to hand it to me. 2:01:52.840 --> 2:01:55.200 It's one thing about friendship, guys, because again I want 2:01:55.280 --> 2:01:57.440 us to be really careful about not virtual signaling. 2:01:57.560 --> 2:02:00.280 It is simply that I only work with friends. And 2:02:00.360 --> 2:02:02.160 the reason why I work really well with friends. 2:02:01.960 --> 2:02:04.880 Is everybody gets to have their own things, and sometimes 2:02:05.240 --> 2:02:07.480 success doesn't have to mean copy and paste. 2:02:07.560 --> 2:02:08.240 And I think that's. 2:02:09.760 --> 2:02:11.360 Just because I don't want you to work with me 2:02:11.440 --> 2:02:13.440 in the exact same spot I'm in doesn't mean I 2:02:13.480 --> 2:02:15.640 don't want you to have an equally, if not greater 2:02:15.720 --> 2:02:16.200 spot than me. 2:02:16.280 --> 2:02:16.800 One of the things that. 2:02:16.840 --> 2:02:19.040 Oprah Winfrey said a long time ago that I think 2:02:19.080 --> 2:02:21.600 has completely shifted the way that I work with friends 2:02:22.040 --> 2:02:24.400 is that the reason why Gail King is my best 2:02:24.440 --> 2:02:26.200 friend is because Gail King doesn't want to be Oprah 2:02:26.240 --> 2:02:29.720 fucking Winfree. And that is valid, right, So it doesn't 2:02:29.760 --> 2:02:31.840 mean I'm a hater. It just means you can be 2:02:31.920 --> 2:02:34.080 gailic shit, you could be Robert Walters. You can be 2:02:34.080 --> 2:02:34.840 bigger than Oprah. 2:02:35.040 --> 2:02:36.120 You just can't be Oprah. 2:02:36.200 --> 2:02:39.880 Right, they're both put in their own right my friends. 2:02:40.120 --> 2:02:41.880 When my friends work for me, I say, you're in 2:02:42.000 --> 2:02:44.080 charge of this. You're the king of this, even though 2:02:44.080 --> 2:02:45.480 I'm the right one. Right, you're the king of this. 2:02:45.840 --> 2:02:47.640 Let me know what to do, and I follow your lead. 2:02:47.760 --> 2:02:47.880 Right. 2:02:48.760 --> 2:02:51.920 We need to have friendships where copy and paste does 2:02:52.040 --> 2:02:54.640 not mean loyalty. Loyalty means, like in a good marriage, 2:02:55.000 --> 2:02:57.160 I can have my thing, you can have your thing 2:02:57.640 --> 2:02:59.840 just as great, if not greater, and we come together 2:03:00.080 --> 2:03:02.320 to autonomous people who love each other but who are 2:03:02.360 --> 2:03:05.680 not codependent or entitled. There's an entitlement that is we've 2:03:05.800 --> 2:03:09.040 all throughout this narrative that we need to stop because 2:03:09.200 --> 2:03:11.880 nobody nobody owes you a yes. Yes, it's a gift. 2:03:12.240 --> 2:03:14.920 How dare you demand a gift. It's not a gift anymore. 2:03:16.680 --> 2:03:18.960 No, I agree with that, and I want to answer 2:03:19.000 --> 2:03:20.720 the super check question. Then I'm gonna read the pull. 2:03:20.760 --> 2:03:21.320 Then we can move on. 2:03:23.480 --> 2:03:26.240 I was gone, but somebody did ask why can't Porsche 2:03:27.000 --> 2:03:30.000 forgive Phaedra for the candy thing and not having one 2:03:30.040 --> 2:03:32.960 emotional media? I know, y'all hete when I say this, 2:03:33.400 --> 2:03:40.920 but vindicated once again. There's a such thing as TV friendships. 2:03:42.000 --> 2:03:42.680 In real life. 2:03:44.560 --> 2:03:48.800 If if I met you on the show and we're cool, 2:03:49.440 --> 2:03:52.080 we're friends because we work for the show. In my 2:03:52.280 --> 2:03:55.680 real life, we're not my You're not my real, real, real, 2:03:55.840 --> 2:03:56.440 real friend. 2:03:56.840 --> 2:03:57.000 Right. 2:03:57.720 --> 2:04:02.160 Shamia and Porsche are real friends, and I want you 2:04:02.240 --> 2:04:06.480 guys to always understand. Look, yes, it's nice to think that. Well, 2:04:06.560 --> 2:04:10.640 we hang out off camera. There's a thing called alliance 2:04:11.160 --> 2:04:13.800 for the sake of the show or the sake of 2:04:13.840 --> 2:04:14.600 the storyline. 2:04:14.960 --> 2:04:19.880 And then there's real friendships. And Shamia and Porsche had 2:04:19.960 --> 2:04:23.840 a real friendship at one point. All right, So the 2:04:23.920 --> 2:04:27.360 results are in team Porsche or Shamia. Porsche. 2:04:28.000 --> 2:04:31.520 Leeds were forty seven percent, but Shamia is not too 2:04:31.600 --> 2:04:32.240 far behind. 2:04:32.320 --> 2:04:34.520 We're forty two per. 2:04:36.440 --> 2:04:41.200 This is very interesting. This I'm gonna be honest, I'd 2:04:41.280 --> 2:04:43.560 expect this to be a split. Are y'all surprised too? 2:04:43.760 --> 2:04:45.080 It's kind of it's almost split. 2:04:45.520 --> 2:04:46.320 What did you expect? 2:04:46.920 --> 2:04:49.040 Because if you took out either, who knows what it 2:04:49.080 --> 2:04:50.200 would have been, right. 2:04:50.840 --> 2:04:53.640 It's interesting, it's interesting. I didn't think it would be 2:04:53.720 --> 2:04:56.680 this close because I think based on. 2:04:59.040 --> 2:04:59.880 Just what we listen. 2:05:00.000 --> 2:05:02.960 And that's why I always tell people this, just because 2:05:02.960 --> 2:05:04.960 you see things on social media doesn't mean it's real. 2:05:07.320 --> 2:05:10.000 I identispect it to be so close. But the beauty 2:05:10.080 --> 2:05:14.880 of reality television always say this is everybody watching this 2:05:14.960 --> 2:05:18.640 show based on their own human experience. So there's a 2:05:18.680 --> 2:05:22.120 lot of people who obviously are on either side. So 2:05:22.320 --> 2:05:26.400 this honestly makes me, as a producer happy to see 2:05:26.480 --> 2:05:30.440 this because now it shows me that, yes, producers, you 2:05:30.600 --> 2:05:33.440 gotta bran me and push it back next season and 2:05:33.560 --> 2:05:36.960 let's see what happens. Because this poll were twelve thousand 2:05:37.040 --> 2:05:41.080 people in the chat. Damn, this is amazing. 2:05:41.840 --> 2:05:44.720 They're about to fight all season eighteen because now the 2:05:44.800 --> 2:05:47.560 gloves are off, the big secrets have been revealed, and 2:05:47.720 --> 2:05:50.760 now it's like, Okay, I can't stand you, so let's 2:05:50.800 --> 2:05:51.160 get it on. 2:05:52.040 --> 2:05:54.000 That's what we're going to get In season eighteen. 2:05:54.160 --> 2:05:57.960 Jemers cheese and I get dropped down because they are knowing, 2:05:58.120 --> 2:05:58.640 like who you. 2:05:58.880 --> 2:06:04.480 Fucked isharding other people it is And I'm. 2:06:04.320 --> 2:06:07.040 Like, listen, it ain't neither. Once you do this to me, 2:06:07.120 --> 2:06:09.280 I'm never We're never gonna be friends every never. 2:06:09.400 --> 2:06:10.520 We might as well just die. 2:06:10.840 --> 2:06:16.839 Yeah, like it's actually fighting words already. 2:06:17.280 --> 2:06:20.560 Literally no, it's and and basically what happened tonight. We 2:06:20.680 --> 2:06:23.120 may do an emergency episode this week, so keep your 2:06:23.160 --> 2:06:30.600 phone on. If responded by tomorrow, keep your phone on 2:06:30.720 --> 2:06:31.080 all right. 2:06:31.360 --> 2:06:33.720 I get to work with my friends, the best job 2:06:34.160 --> 2:06:37.520 in the world. Every Monday. You will catch us mother 2:06:37.560 --> 2:06:40.800 and not live. Thank you all. See you next week. 2:06:42.800 --> 2:06:45.640 Carlos going on tour, Carlos, keep. 2:06:45.520 --> 2:06:47.920 Your emails refreshed and get one this week when we're 2:06:47.960 --> 2:06:48.560 going on to set. 2:06:48.640 --> 2:06:50.640 We want coffee months and emails. 2:06:51.400 --> 2:06:51.680 Thank you. 2:06:53.880 --> 2:06:55.120 Okay, love y'all. 2:06:57.440 --> 2:06:57.720 Felt that. 2:06:58.320 --> 2:07:04.120 Love y'all, Yes, love y'all. 2:07:04.240 --> 2:07:04.560 Bye. 2:07:08.160 --> 2:07:12.640 Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King, 2:07:13.080 --> 2:07:17.120 produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership with the Lack 2:07:17.360 --> 2:07:20.280 of Effect Network. You can also find us on my 2:07:20.440 --> 2:07:23.480 YouTube channel at the Carlos King underscore,