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Speaker 1: Each week and we'll keep you know, kind of banging

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Speaker 1: years ago because I didn't want to tear an achilles.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be on crutches, right, you know.

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Speaker 1: But but you can keep playing in your forties and

428
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Speaker 1: fifties you want, obviously, golf and tennis you can play

429
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Speaker 1: in your sixties and seventies. Football is a game that

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Speaker 1: whatever whatever age you play, from an organized standpoint, when

431
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Speaker 1: you stop, most of us are told we're just not

432
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Speaker 1: good enough. Or when you retire at the highest level,

433
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Speaker 1: it ends you never play football again. So maybe he

434
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Speaker 1: just wrapping his head around, like, am I truly cool?

435
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Speaker 1: We're just never doing this again besides playing catch every

436
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Speaker 1: once in a while with guys. And I'm sure actually

437
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Speaker 1: Tom is gonna act because whenever you hear is, former

438
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Speaker 1: teammates talk about how he acts as kind of a mentor,

439
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Speaker 1: like he'll always pick up the phone he'll always help

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Speaker 1: out their kids. I think he's very, very passionate about

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Speaker 1: creating what he created, which is this, you know, I

442
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Speaker 1: don't want to say Fountain of Youth, but kind of

443
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Speaker 1: a hack and kind of a way which not many

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Speaker 1: people are gonna be able to do. As someone who

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Speaker 1: struggles with discipline with my eating, I'm marvel at his ability.

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Speaker 1: And it's easy to be like, well, it's no, it's

447
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Speaker 1: not you know, it's it's really not. I don't care

448
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Speaker 1: how much money is on the line. Most people, the

449
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Speaker 1: overwhelming percentage of human beings on this earth, uh, struggle

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Speaker 1: with discipline in their life, regardless whether it's food, whether

451
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Speaker 1: it's you know, their job, whatever it is. They're they're

452
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Speaker 1: not very disciplined people. It's why the discipline people I

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Speaker 1: would say consider instantly separate in you know, just in

454
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Speaker 1: in business, right, the more disciplines you are, the easier

455
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Speaker 1: it is to separate from the pack. And Tom's discipline

456
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Speaker 1: second to none. It was second to none. So um,

457
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Speaker 1: you know, we'll see how this story plays out, but

458
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 1: you know, it clearly feels like where it's trending because ESPN,

459
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Speaker 1: if you watch all weekend Tom Tom Brady Senior went

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Speaker 1: on like local news here in the barriers like he

461
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Speaker 1: is not retiring. And then he turned on ESPN before

462
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Speaker 1: the games and like Fox, everyone's just talking like he's retiring.

463
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Speaker 1: It's like they theyde pivot or away from their story.

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Speaker 1: Other big story also connected to Tom is Josh McDaniels

465
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Speaker 1: and Josh McDaniels is gonna be the head coach of

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Speaker 1: the Las Vegas Raiders, and Josh McDaniels will basically just

467
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Speaker 1: take over for John group because John Gruden for the

468
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Speaker 1: last you know, three and a half years before he

469
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Speaker 1: fired or quit or however you want to describe what

470
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Speaker 1: happened with the text message had full control of the organization.

471
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Speaker 1: Literally everything went through him. And say what you want

472
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Speaker 1: about Mark davis Um. You know he's clearly financially in

473
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Speaker 1: the lower tier of the league. He is a good

474
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Speaker 1: owner to work for as a head coach. He'll let

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Speaker 1: you do whatever the funk you want. You can pick

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Speaker 1: any player, you can run any scheme, you can do

477
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Speaker 1: whatever you want. There is we'll talk about John Mara

478
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Speaker 1: a little bit later. Like he likes to have his

479
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Speaker 1: hand in the cookie jar. Mark does not. Mark, I'll

480
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Speaker 1: give you what you need, here's the money signed, do

481
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Speaker 1: whatever you please, whatever you please. I saw it with

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Speaker 1: Jack del Rio, I saw with John Gruden, and it'll

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Speaker 1: happen again with Josh McDaniels. To me, the question is

484
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Speaker 1: with Josh McDaniels, is I'm not even gonna hold him

485
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Speaker 1: that much against Denver. He was thirty three years old.

486
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Speaker 1: That was a long time ago. But it's not really

487
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Speaker 1: arguable that there was a big mistake made there. Right,

488
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Speaker 1: they took Tim Tebow in the first round. Tim Tebow

489
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Speaker 1: was not an NFL player, and I was like, well,

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Speaker 1: I want a playoff game. Yeah. It's like that was

491
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Speaker 1: like an act of God. That that was that that

492
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Speaker 1: that was a one off situation in the sport of football.

493
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Speaker 1: And Josh was fired a year and a half in

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Speaker 1: the cheating scandals. Whatever. If you watch him and the

495
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Speaker 1: Patriots tweeted out something earlier this month of him and

496
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Speaker 1: his family talking about the last you know, ten years

497
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Speaker 1: since coming back, he clearly feels like a more balanced

498
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Speaker 1: person than when you heard Joe Judge talk. And unlike

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Speaker 1: Joe Judge and some of these guys like Josh, let's

500
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Speaker 1: just use Joe Jo as an example. Josh McDaniels calls

501
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Speaker 1: the offense. Now, how good of an offensive coordinator he is?

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Speaker 1: I think most people, if you'd say Josh McDaniels, say

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Speaker 1: he's one of the better offensive coordinators in the league. Well,

504
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Speaker 1: for a long period of time, he had Tom Brady,

505
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Speaker 1: which you know, by the time, especially the second go around,

506
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Speaker 1: like Tom Brady was the best player in the league.

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Speaker 1: So when he came back in two thousand eleven or

508
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Speaker 1: twelve or whatever, when Bill O'Brien left, Tom Brady was

509
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Speaker 1: in the peak of his powers. They had Grunty, had Edelman.

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Speaker 1: You know, I would imagine most above average offensive coordinators

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Speaker 1: would have thrived. Now is everyone getting along with Tom?

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Speaker 1: You know, we'll see. I mean, he's basically just had

513
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Speaker 1: a couple offensive coordinators in his life. Right, whis Josh

514
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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien, Josh and now left Witch and Arians, which

515
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Speaker 1: I think we all consider wiss You know whatever, Billy

516
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: Billy oh is better than the way social media talks Josh.

517
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: I think time's gonna tell because Bill picks every single player. Now,

518
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Speaker 1: did Josh learn more when he turned down the Colts?

519
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 1: Because I think it's easy to shoot on him for

520
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: turning down the Colts, and it didn't go well in

521
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Speaker 1: the sense of he hired people on the staff, everyone

522
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Speaker 1: was ready for him to come, and then he backed

523
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Speaker 1: out last minute. But put yourself in a situation. We

524
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Speaker 1: all have second thoughts. It's easy to say, you gotta

525
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Speaker 1: follow up on your word. That's something we're all taught

526
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Speaker 1: when we're kids. You gotta follow up on your word.

527
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Speaker 1: And then he realized business, Yeah, contracts can be broken.

528
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Speaker 1: I can get fired any moment. Like you know, you

529
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: gotta do you, you you gotta do your family, You gotta

530
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Speaker 1: do what you're comfortable with. Right there, there's a difference

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Speaker 1: between you're not allowed to quit Little league because you

532
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Speaker 1: said you wanted to play baseball, and there's also a

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Speaker 1: difference of yeah, I don't feel that comfortable actually taking

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Speaker 1: this job, and if I am, I'm better off telling

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Speaker 1: you I don't want the job, I'm not coming, than

536
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Speaker 1: coming and being half half in and then like quitting

537
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: a year or two win. So I when it comes

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Speaker 1: to big business, that ship doesn't bother me as much,

539
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: but I do wonder like, is he some guy that waffles?

540
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: Is he's some guy that's somewhat insecure? Insecure is probably

541
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: the wrong way to describe it, but just unsure given

542
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: his previous, you know, situation years ago. I don't know.

543
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 1: You should improve over time. We should be getting a

544
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Speaker 1: different Josh. But don't get it twisted. They're they're announcing

545
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Speaker 1: as I'm recording this, I think that the new general

546
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: manager who's also a Patriot, guy who was Josh's teammate

547
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: at John Carroll, Dave Ziegler. David Ziegler answers to Josh McDaniels.

548
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels is going to have the John Gruten role

549
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 1: with the Raiders. Now. One thing they have to figure

550
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: out because the Raiders have been a train wreck at

551
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: this pick, some good players in the first round. Can

552
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: Can we stop taking terrible NFL football players in the

553
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Speaker 1: first round? Damon Arnett just can't put down the guns.

554
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: The guy is a complete fucking loser. Cleveland Ferrell, high

555
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 1: character guy, terrible at football. I mean that that that

556
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: pick is just absolutely atrocious. I didn't mind the Henry

557
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: Ruggs pick, and I think he was becoming a player.

558
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: That was something that probably could have happened to any organization.

559
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: Now you could argue there's not top golfs open all

560
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: night in every city, but you know, knowing people at Alabama,

561
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: knowing people that scouted Henry Ruggs coming out, he did

562
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: not have character red flags, but the situation happened, and

563
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 1: he's now going to prison for years surely, So they

564
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: have to figure out a way to just get some

565
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: good NFL players high in the draft. And I don't

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Speaker 1: know why we would just assume that Josh McDaniels is

567
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Speaker 1: gonna know how to do that. There are a lot

568
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: of question marks this. This is a very risky higher.

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Speaker 1: I would argue it has high upside, but we've seen

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Speaker 1: it before. It also has a lower floor. So it's

571
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Speaker 1: gonna be fascinating to watch. But Josh McDaniels gets to

572
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Speaker 1: run an organization. Bears general manager Ryan pol said something

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Speaker 1: today that made me shake my head, and I had

574
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Speaker 1: to do a little research. I texted a couple of people,

575
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Speaker 1: I said that have been around him. I said, is

576
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: he uh is a really cocky guy? And they're like, no,

577
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Speaker 1: he's actually pretty understated. And he said something today that

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Speaker 1: I honestly can't believe that he came out of his

579
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: mouth because I don't think there's any point to saying this.

580
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: And listen, I believe in self confidence. Uh, there's a

581
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: difference between being self confidence and like cocky and arrogant.

582
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: If you do not have self confidence professionally or personally,

583
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: try try to get a date with no self confidence.

584
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: Good luck, buddy, it ain't happening. If you tell me

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Speaker 1: some guy is taking a position in any company, a

586
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Speaker 1: high level position, and he struggles with self confidence, I'll

587
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: short the ship out of that guy. That guy will fail.

588
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: I do not think you can be successful in any

589
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: high level industry without self confidence. You need it. But

590
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Speaker 1: there's also a balance of keeping some stuff to yourself

591
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: because in any high level business it's very competitive, it

592
00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: is very very difficult. Things are not easy. And thing

593
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: is a better example of that than the NFL. I

594
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Speaker 1: say it all the time during the draft when every

595
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Speaker 1: single first round we're watching the draft on television, right

596
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: and they go picks one through thirty two. When they

597
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: go to every single draft meeting or I mean draft room,

598
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Speaker 1: after the pick is in and we've drafted John Middlecoff,

599
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Speaker 1: if it's the Minnesota Vikings, they're going nuts. They're hugging,

600
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Speaker 1: they're kissing their high five in there. They're just Unless

601
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Speaker 1: you have Tom Donahoe in like the third round, then

602
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: he'd wants you to pick someone else. But for the

603
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: most part, every single organization is celebrating their pick. No

604
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Speaker 1: one thinks they miss it. But as we see every

605
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Speaker 1: single year, half those Pixels guys can't play. And Ryan Poles,

606
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: who's a younger guy, so he's my age, I'm rooting

607
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: for him to be good. I love watching all these

608
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: younger guys get GM spots. Sorry, old guys, we're taking over.

609
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: Millennials are here. We're coming for all your jobs. But

610
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Speaker 1: Ryan Poles, who again i've been told is an understated,

611
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: kind of a low key guy, said we are taking

612
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Speaker 1: the North. This is what he said today in his

613
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Speaker 1: press conference. We are taking the North and we're never

614
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: giving it back. Now. If someone told them, like hey man,

615
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is getting traded in like two months, I'd

616
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Speaker 1: be I'd be happy too. That's a big deal to me.

617
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: You look around, you go, Kirk Cousins not losing a

618
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: sleepover Dan Campbell and the Lions. But here's what I

619
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: do know. The Packers historically for thirty plus years, have

620
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: been consistently winning. And as Aaron Rodgers said, I own you.

621
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Speaker 1: He's also saying, like our franchise owns you. We've been

622
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: kicking your ass. The Minnesota Vikings have just been consistently

623
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: better than you, and the Lions have a long way

624
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Speaker 1: to go. They got several picks. You don't even have

625
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: a first round pick. I just don't understand. Listen, your

626
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: personality is your personality, and I never believe in being fake. Right.

627
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: Part of the reason Bill Belichick is able to act

628
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: like Bill Belichick kind of comes naturally. Though. If you

629
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: watch Andy Reid's press conference, you watch Kyle Shanahan's press conference,

630
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: they don't look like that. These guys, they're all just

631
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: being themselves. But I do think there's a balance, and

632
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: I talked about this last week. For some of those

633
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: crazy games in the divisional round, there's a reason you're

634
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: humble and victory because it's so easy to go the

635
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: other way. There's nothing wrong with saying I can't wait

636
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: to do whatever I can do to help the Chicago

637
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: Bears win. I will spend every waking moment doing everything

638
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: humanly possible to try to get us to win this division.

639
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: Winning this division means a lot to us. And there's

640
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: a difference in saying we're taking back the back the North,

641
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: and we're never given it back, taking back the North

642
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: when the last time you guys had the North, the Packers.

643
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: It feels like I've won this division twenty the last

644
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: thirty years, and the Vikings have won at several times,

645
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: like let's just let's walk before we run. The other

646
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: thing is and I saw this years ago. Jim Harbaugh's

647
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: last couple of years, Jim Harbaugh's teams under Trent Balky

648
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: had some criminals literally guys, I mean Ray McDonald went

649
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: to jail for hitting people. Aldon Smith, we called him Alden.

650
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: The cops are coming. Smith always getting arrested. I actually

651
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: think I just ready got arrested within the last couple

652
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: of months. Chris Culiver the corner once like almost hit

653
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: a biker a cross in the street, got out of

654
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: his car Colorver. It was like a low four or

655
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: four guy, grabbed brass knuckles and chase the guy down

656
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: the street. They were basically the Urban Meyer Florida teams.

657
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: They just were that in the NFL. They had dudes

658
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: getting arrested left and right. And Jed York came out

659
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: and said, because it was like the seventh arrest, he's

660
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: like we want to win with class. It's like, bro,

661
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: no one gives a ship, just just win like you're not.

662
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: I say, the NFL is not about teaching moral life lessons,

663
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: and Jed didn't was hard to He didn't live winning

664
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: with class down for years, basically until the Super Bowl year.

665
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: And when you say something like this and it doesn't

666
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: go well, people are not gonna let it die. People

667
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: are not gonna let you live it down. And it's

668
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: just so unneeded, Like you just don't need to say

669
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: this now unless, like your owner tells you to say it,

670
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: then you have no choice. But I doubt that this

671
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: doesn't quite feel how the McCaskey family operates. And I

672
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: get being excited they have your general manager in the NFL,

673
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: your GM of the Chicago Bears enormous brand, big city,

674
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: passionate city, they love their football team. I just think

675
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: saying a comment like that in a league that is

676
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: so competitive, the Minnesota Vikings just hired probably the smartest

677
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: guy that's ever been a general manager in the history

678
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: of the league. Now he's gonna be a good GM.

679
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: I got no clue. But the dude spent like ten

680
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: years as a venture capitalist. So if he does no

681
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: football and can figure it out. That guy is gonna

682
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: be good. The Lions have a million picks, have a

683
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: million picks, and you would just say the law of averages,

684
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: they're bound to hit up some players eventually. And the Packers,

685
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: like I think Rogers leaving, what if he doesn't, because

686
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: if he doesn't and they bring every they roll it

687
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: all back, They're still kicking your ass. So I just

688
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: I don't get it. Man. I I don't think you

689
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: gotta be Bill Belichick. You don't have to do that,

690
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: you know, but you do like you don't need to

691
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: do this. You don't need to be Rex Ryan. And

692
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: even Rex Ryan when he was talking a lot of ship,

693
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: especially towards the end, he had once the playoff games,

694
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: you know he'd he I think he'd won four. He'd

695
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: been to a couple of conference championship games, and as

696
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: an assistant like he'd won a super Bowl. I know

697
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: Ryan Poles has won an assistant as or I mean

698
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl as like an assistant executive on

699
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. But I just don't love that. I gotta

700
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: give the Giants a little credit, uh, because we talked

701
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 1: about it. I guess it would have been last week.

702
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: How I was just unsure are the mar Is gonna

703
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: force Brian Floores on them? They didn't. They let Joe

704
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: Shane hire his coach, and is it gonna work or not?

705
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: I got no clue. Pretty funny video of of day

706
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: Ball driving his F one fifty to the Giants facility.

707
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: I guess he drove from Buffalo showing up, you know,

708
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 1: for the press conference in his suit. Now he had

709
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: the suit coat on in his truck. Uh, so they

710
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: might have just had him drive down the road for

711
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: that shot. I don't know, because no human alive drives

712
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: in their car with their suit jacket on. That's just

713
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: nobody does that. You put it in a hangar, you

714
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 1: put it in the you know, the second rows eats

715
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: and you hang it up. But they let him hire

716
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: his guy. So the only way this was gonna be successful,

717
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 1: because they haven't had this in years, have a GM

718
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: and a head coach who are on the same page.

719
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 1: That's the only way you have a chance for success.

720
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 1: That doesn't guarantee you anything. These guys could easily fail.

721
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,720
Speaker 1: I would say they are less likely to fail because

722
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: just look at their two resumes. Both of them been

723
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: around the block both of them and had success. Both

724
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 1: of them been around teams that have lost. Sometimes I

725
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: think that is powerful. I think one problem with some

726
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: of the Belichick guys that are Belichick guys, only all

727
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: you do is win. All you do is win. When

728
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: they when they went seven to nine last year, there

729
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: was a first losing season, like nineteen years, their first

730
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: losing season that we talked about, like remember where they

731
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: missed the playoffs? They still had winning years. So to me,

732
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: I'm very, very fascinated to watch these guys. They clearly

733
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: need to get a quarterback. They have two high draft

734
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: picks I would imagine. I mean, Mara said that they're

735
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: gonna roll Daniel Jones back. I don't think he's any good.

736
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: I'd be out on Daniel Jones. But you know, not

737
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: everybody's Joe Burrow. Some guys take some time. They clearly

738
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: need to improve their offensive line. I think it's a

739
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: pretty easy one for these guys. Just give Daniel Jones

740
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: another shot and just see how it goes, and then

741
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: able to pivot next year when um, you know c J. Stroud,

742
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: Bryce Young. So I just think it's a better quarterback lass,

743
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: I really do. And last, but not least I still

744
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: I saw Albert Brier wrote this in his MMQB that

745
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence should ask for a trade, and I couldn't

746
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: agree more. The Jags are a joke now they've been

747
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: a joke for a long period of time. Uh, you

748
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: could have argued he should have asked for a trade

749
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: last year, Eli Manning John Elway style. I'm not playing

750
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: there now. He was never gonna do that. He's from

751
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: the South, he's very religious, he feels comfortable in that environment. Uh.

752
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: When when they hired urban Meyer, it probably felt him

753
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: on paper like it made some sense. Obviously that did

754
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: not go well. But right now, what are they doing?

755
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: Bryan left, which they were gonna hire him, and then

756
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: he said, I'm not working for Trent Balky And the

757
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: one thing you consistently here, nobody will work for Trent

758
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: ball Ky. And now Brewer wrote this too, and he's right.

759
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: How did they all of a sudden land on Kevin O'Connell.

760
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: They fired urban Meyer a long time ago. They have

761
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,439
Speaker 1: known they were looking for coaches a long time ago.

762
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: Why didn't they have a specific list of even if

763
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: it was seven eight guys and then figure it out

764
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: from there. Well, I'll tell you why nobody wants to

765
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: coach this team and they have. Just a year ago,

766
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,959
Speaker 1: this guy was considered the best quarterback prospect since Luck

767
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: and Peyton Manning. And now they're completely toxic. And it

768
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: starts with their general manager. And I keep seeing like, well,

769
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 1: the owner is so loyal the general manager. The owner

770
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: is a terrible NFL owner. He has no clue what

771
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: he's doing. You know, he might be they're running some

772
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: competitive wrestling against the w w E. Everyone tells me

773
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: that's going well. He clearly is a good businessman, made

774
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: tons of money, but when it comes to his football team,

775
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: they are an embarrassment that they truly they have no

776
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 1: clue what they're doing. I actually think the Texans. Everyone

777
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: makes a big deal like, how can you hire Josh McCown, fun,

778
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 1: how can you hire Uberflus? I could never have hired Uberflus,

779
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 1: no chance. This notion that Josh McCown would be any

780
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: worse than the majority of these guys that have hired

781
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: over the years is laughable. Is at Joe Judge ran

782
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: a quarterback sneak on third and nine? So just this

783
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: notion that just because you're an assistant coach in the

784
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: NFL means you're any good is bullshit. I would say

785
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: half the coaches in the NFL are stealing. The average

786
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: position coach making four or five grand if you took

787
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: away their whistle and had them get a regular job,

788
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: most of them making like fifty grand. So let's not

789
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: act like they are just these well rounded, dominant individual

790
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: They're not even that great at their own field. So

791
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: this notion that Josh McCown would be a joke. Now,

792
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: it does feel they could easily hire Brian Flores as well,

793
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: But the Texans don't have that much to deal with,

794
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: right It's not like they have a quarterback on the roster.

795
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: The Jacks have Trevor Lawrence going into a se I

796
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 1: can't year and Knick get anyone to take their job.

797
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: So I don't think he will because it's not doesn't

798
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: feel like an Eli Manning. Part of Eli Manning had

799
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: a dad that played in the NFL. Part of el

800
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: Way doing that was he had powerful agents and Jack

801
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: l Waite, who was a football guy. Trevor Lawrence, you know,

802
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: I don't think he even knows what he doesn't even know.

803
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: But if he had come from the Manning family if

804
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: he had come from, you know, a family that had

805
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: been associated with the NFL. If they didn't say it

806
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: last year, they would saying percent to be saying it now,

807
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 1: Get me out of here, get me to safety, come

808
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 1: save me, trade me. I will not play for you anymore.

809
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: But you know, there's a reason bad franchises stay bad franchises.

810
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: And maybe in a couple of years Trevor Lawrence becomes

811
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: available and he's you know, some teams able to poach

812
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:51,439
Speaker 1: him and save his career, but who knows. Maybe not. Okay,

813
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 1: let's dive into the Middlecoff mail bag at John Middlecoff.

814
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: Is the Instagram really easy? You just slide up into

815
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: those d m s and you get a question to answer.

816
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: Here on the show, we'll start with Joseph mail back question.

817
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 1: If Stafford wins the Super Bowl, what is the difference

818
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: in terms of his legacy and Alex Rodriguez? I think

819
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 1: you a rod I think you mean Aaron Rodgers. Let's

820
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: face it, both guys are superior talented. Then most of

821
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: their position and all that separates them wasn't super Bowl?

822
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: Now that changes? Right? Well, Rodgers had the far superior career.

823
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 1: I mean I'm not. I'm not an Aaron Rodgers hater.

824
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: As a player, he's remarkable. He's been dramatically better for

825
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: the last decade than Matt Stafford. Now, he's always stood

826
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: up for Matt Stafford. He's always supported Matt Stafford and

827
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: acted like he was underrated. Like I think Aaron Rodgers

828
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: was a big Matt Stafford fan. Their legacies the difference

829
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: like Rogers legacy. You know, he's gonna go down as

830
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: one of the greatest quarterbacks ever. Now he's got some blemishes, right,

831
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: you only have one Super Bowl is pretty crazy for

832
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: a player of his caliber. But he's not done yet.

833
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: You know he still has If you based on Tom

834
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 1: Brady years, you could argue, like three or four years

835
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: left at a really high level. Help four or five

836
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: he could still do some things. Matt Stafford though thirty

837
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: three years old. I really could go on a run

838
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: now with McVeigh. If they killed building this thing. What

839
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: if he has like a five or six year run

840
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: where he's going to the playoffs all the time he

841
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: went to Super Bowl, Um, you know he Stafford would

842
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: have a way to go to match Rogers. But yeah,

843
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: I definitely think that he could improve on that legacy

844
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 1: okay from waste Ortmann. I don't even know if it's

845
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: a real name. Maybe it is if it is cool name.

846
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: I think Kyle is an offensive coach who missed the

847
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: calling on defense. Not trying to shoot on him, but

848
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: he's a coach who wants ultra controlling things. If he

849
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: calls the shots, it'll work and does for the most part.

850
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: Leaning heavily on the run is the best way to

851
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: control as a coach and limit mistakes. It's what every

852
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: defensive coach hammered for. But when Kyle is it, he's

853
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: a genius. He establishes physicality and can motivate like crazy. Yeah.

854
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: The difference though, is Kyle gashes people in the run game.

855
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: Kyle's run game without like Barry Sanders, Emmett Smith or

856
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson kicks ass. I mean, I've seen it firsthand.

857
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: His scheming of the run game, Kyle schemer. His ability

858
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: to scheme his offense is fantastic. Most defensive coach like

859
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: run the ball up the gut. I'm not saying Kyle.

860
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: Every once in a a while run up the gut and

861
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: it won't work. But Kyle's runs are pretty remarkable. Like

862
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: I've watched every call, every play call he's had in

863
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: his career as a head coach. He's been fucking pretty good.

864
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: He has bad games, and that's that's human like to me,

865
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: it's always like you can't know you you criticize like

866
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: Andy Read. You can be critical of what they did

867
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: at the end of the first half. You can be

868
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: critical of what Kyle did on second and short and

869
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: third and short. That doesn't mean they're not great coaches.

870
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean coach Reads not go in the Hall

871
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: of Fame. It doesn't mean Kyle Shanahan is one of

872
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: the best young coaches in the league. But you can

873
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: have a bad day. I love Mike Rabel. They had

874
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 1: a bad day. There's nothing wrong with that. It's life.

875
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: I have bad shows, You have bad days in the office.

876
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: It's the way the world works. McVeigh was terrible. Mcveay

877
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 1: didn't have any time outs in the in the fourth quarter. Hey, John,

878
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: quick question for you. Do you watch games alone with

879
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,919
Speaker 1: friends at a bar? Does it change depending on the week.

880
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: I watched most of my games alone. Uh. I do

881
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: this for a living. You know, I need to stay

882
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 1: locked in. Uh. Saturdays for college football, I don't talk

883
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: about as much like I go out. You know, I

884
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: go I go out drinking with the boys or ladies.

885
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: You know, maybe got a little lady friend here and there.

886
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: But I I do like Sundays a work day for me. Sundays,

887
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: my Monday. Sunday and Monday are enormous days, you know,

888
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: to stay locked in, to stay clearheaded. Uh you know,

889
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: some days if I get after too much on Saturday,

890
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: I don't even like being thrown off on Sunday. Uh.

891
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, now, I'm not a big

892
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: go out guy anyway, but I I to say my

893
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: schedule is a little weird. I mean, just depending on

894
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: what's going on. I don't really have days of the week.

895
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: It just revolves around football, you know. So like I

896
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: Monday through Friday and then get the weekend off. All

897
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: my days kind of blend together. Now during the offseason

898
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 1: it changes a little bit. But I I do enjoy

899
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: uh the NFL watching alone Saturday's, Friday's you know, if

900
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 1: games are on whatever, but I'll go I have watched

901
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: games at bars or hell, go to games Sunday though,

902
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 1: is just me. It's gonna be i' gonna have to

903
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: adapt when I get uh, I mean, who knows. I

904
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: gotta find a I gotta find a mate, but a

905
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: family will be interesting. But you know, football pays the bills,

906
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: and right now I just doing pretty well. But yeah,

907
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: I enjoy watching football with myself. But I was like that,

908
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: like as a scout, you know, I was like that

909
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: when I was young. I'd like watching games by myself.

910
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: For twenty plus years and I'm not that old. I've

911
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: been a listener of yours since the beginning. Appreciate it

912
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: from Travis, love the pod, and I hope you keep

913
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: doing what you're doing. I have been a lifelong Cowboys fan,

914
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 1: and after watching what Burrow can do with his leaky

915
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: oh line, I can only think of what an indictment

916
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: it is on Dak Prescott. That being said, I'm a

917
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: fan of Dak and I don't blame just him. We

918
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: always have the talent, but it just seems like the

919
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: team is too entitled. Players never end up performing up

920
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: to their salary. Question, what can the team do to

921
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: send a message to the players that crappy, bone headed

922
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: plays won't be tolerated. Example, Gregory was coddled for years

923
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: for his lack of discipline, and he ends up making

924
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: crucial mistakes in the playoff game. Fucking tired of being disappointed. PS.

925
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: Not a fan of McCarthy. It starts with your coach.

926
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: You either you know, the age all saying goes. You're

927
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: either coaching it or allowing it to happen. The coach

928
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 1: sets the tone. What you want in your organization gets

929
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: set by your head coach. Then it breeds, you know,

930
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: bleeds down to your best player and for you. You know,

931
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: Dak's not your best player, but he's your highest paid

932
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: player and he's your leader. Uh. I just think that.

933
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, as long as McCarthy's there,

934
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna be the button up operation

935
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: just not gonna happen, you know. And obviously your organizations

936
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: unique because of the juice Jerry has, you know, no

937
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: team has. It's weird when I say Mettlesome, it sounds

938
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: worse than it actually is because Jerry. They clearly do

939
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: a good job, they draft well, Uh, they're competitive, but

940
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: Jerry's always you know, talking to the media. Jerry's always

941
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: involved in the contracts. I admire the ship out of Jerry.

942
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: I am not one of those people, but again I'm

943
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: way more pro business than anyone that talks about sports

944
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: beside about five. So I admire a lot of things

945
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 1: that Jerry brings the table and what he's done around

946
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, But from a pure football standpoint, you know,

947
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 1: I think he can make it challenging and empower guys

948
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: because think about it, when you're a parent. Right in

949
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: my life, like it was like my dad was the hammer,

950
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: my mom was a little softer, right, and you know,

951
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: house is different, and they'd be like wait till your

952
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: dad comes home, right, And you always knew that you

953
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: could go to your mom if your dad said no.

954
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 1: And as you get older, like maybe you get a job. Well,

955
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: you know, if you work for a guy and he's

956
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: a middle manager, you go like, this guy doesn't have

957
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: any juice. I'll go to the boss. I'll go to

958
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: the decision maker. You learned that pretty early in life.

959
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: Don't waste any time talking to people that aren't don't

960
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: have decision making powers or those that can influence decision

961
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: making powers. So if I'm a player, the coach can

962
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 1: yell at me, But if I'm Jerry's guy, like, why

963
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: do I really care? McCarthy can't cut me any advice

964
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: you'd give the young guys trying to break into the industry. Personally,

965
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: I'm a University of Central Florida studying business, but all

966
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: I want to do is talk sports. Should I start

967
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: a YouTube channel? Change my majors or what? Do not

968
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: change your major? Just your opinion would be fantastic. I

969
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: would I would stay as a business major. If you

970
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: want to get involved in the world of talking sports.

971
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: You know, I can only speak from my suspective. You

972
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: know the people that come up the quote unquote media

973
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: way right, try to get a job at at a

974
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: media entity and be a personality. It is tough, right,

975
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: And I would say most people you see on TV.

976
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: Let's just use a couple of guys like Stephen A.

977
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: Smith or Colin Coward. Stephen A was a writer for

978
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 1: twenty years in transition. Because let's face it, no offense

979
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: to any writers listening, but your your industry is struggling.

980
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: It's not nearly as powerful as it was when I

981
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: was a kid, or even before that. It's trending in

982
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: the wrong direction. The written word has never been less powerful, right,

983
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: just in terms of the people that consume it. Right,

984
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: So why newspapers die a little more every day, you know,

985
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: the non like New York Times or Wall Street Journal,

986
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: because those get those have a huge, huge, uh you

987
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: know base. But I bet that base tends to be

988
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: a little older. Where the reason YouTube and video stuff

989
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 1: is really big is because that's where all the money

990
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: is and that's where all the advertisers go. So stephen

991
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: A quit writing and went to TV. Bill Simmons quit

992
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: writing and went in to talk all the moneys in

993
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: video and audio. Think about how we consume. We watched television,

994
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: and we listen to podcasts or listen to whatever on

995
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 1: through our phone. So I would try to do things

996
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: that get you reps at that. But if you're just

997
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: a twenty three year old guy with a business major

998
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: who just talks about sports, I'm not trying to be

999
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: an asshole. You're kind of a dime a dozen. But

1000
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: like the way I did it, and again I do

1001
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: not recommend doing this. I got involved in football, so

1002
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: it gave me credibility and then luckily I just know

1003
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: how to talk right, so I can talk. But people go, oh,

1004
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 1: this guy's worked in football. If I hadn't done that,

1005
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: I wouldn't me and coward never would have met each other.

1006
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: Even who's this guy? There's a million of means. So

1007
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: you got to find a way to separate from the pack.

1008
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: And you know what, I was in college, it was

1009
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: like get a job in a newspaper or something. I

1010
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: would not recommend that one they don't even pay to

1011
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know. I can only speak from my experience. Uh,

1012
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta find a way to be different.

1013
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: That to me is key. And then once you find

1014
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: a way to get different, someone will give you, hopefully

1015
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: an opportunity because ultimately you could start a YouTube channel.

1016
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: I would do that, but it's gonna be hard, Like

1017
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,439
Speaker 1: people aren't just gonna watch unless you just naturally find

1018
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: some algorithm. Uh. I would try to work on a

1019
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: way to separate from the pack. And I don't know

1020
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: what that answer is for you. I I did wasn't

1021
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: thinking like this when I was in college. I was

1022
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: just trying to make it. I was just trying to

1023
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: work in football, and then you just kind of got

1024
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: led down a different path. But if I had just

1025
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: never worked in football and just gone media, I would

1026
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: not have that. I would not be here today. I

1027
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: truly believe that. I know that for a fact. Uh,

1028
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: and then sorry, that's not great advice, But I by

1029
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: number one advice, try to find a way to separate

1030
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: from the pack. You know, whether that's with a legal background,

1031
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: whether that's maybe get involved for a couple of years

1032
00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: with the team, just so you have some insight information. Uh,

1033
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: because you can always transition to this always. I just

1034
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: wanted to hop in the d m s and remind

1035
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: you that you said the Bengals fans were crazy if

1036
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: we thought we were going to go into Arrowhead and

1037
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,720
Speaker 1: be Patrick Mahomes. Just to rub it in a little

1038
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: who day, I did absolutely stunned. Two days later while

1039
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: I'm recording this Monday afternoon, blown away. I mean, I

1040
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: it's fucking nuts again. I lost several thousand dollars because

1041
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: of the Chiefs, So I still love all those guys,

1042
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: and uh, it's football is hard, man. This is why

1043
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: this is what I'm saying about Ryan Poles. Football is

1044
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: so hard. It's hard enough when you're good and you

1045
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 1: have Patrick Mahomes and you have Jason or Travis Kelsey

1046
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: and Tyree Hill and Chris Jones. It's hard to win

1047
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: games when you suck to like kind of like act

1048
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: like you're gonna be something. Andy Reid has never talked

1049
00:52:55,760 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: like that. I've never heard Kyle Shanahan say those words.

1050
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: On McVeigh. The craziest thing I've ever seen him do

1051
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: is celebrating the end zone after a touchdown. Just look

1052
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: at Belichick. Complimentary, complimentary, even though behind closed doors you

1053
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: can talk shit. The best part of my job. I

1054
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: can say whatever I want. Ultimately, I'm just trying to

1055
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 1: get more of you to listen. Those guys their job

1056
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 1: is to try to win. You know, seventeen games, are

1057
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: trying to win ten eleven of them to get into

1058
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 1: the dance and then try to make a Super Bowl run.

1059
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 1: I just don't I don't get it. And everything I've

1060
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: heard about the guy, he's a high level guy. But

1061
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,919
Speaker 1: to just say you're gonna run the North, I don't know, man,

1062
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: I think that's a poor tactic. Thoughts on Lincoln Riley

1063
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: and the rebuild, um, I mean, I think Lincoln Riley

1064
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: is a baller so at USC he's gonna get players.

1065
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: I know he got a couple of transfers. He got

1066
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice's kid from Colorado transferred. We'll see what happens.

1067
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, the quarterback. But he's immediately trying to even

1068
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: think Mario Left. Um. You know, David Shaw's teams terrible

1069
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 1: average of herms, edwards programs and shambles. Love my guy

1070
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: Jonathan Smith. Oregon State, Washington, Washington State. Their coaches du

1071
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: bour I like du bor I washed it actually, but

1072
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: you know it's it's a big step up from President

1073
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: State to the University of Washington. Lincoln Riley's best coach

1074
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: in the back twelve and he's one of the best

1075
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 1: coaches in the country. So now, like I said when

1076
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: he was hired, the only question I have is when

1077
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll was awesome at USC, when Nick saban has

1078
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: dominated for a couple of you know, a decade, when

1079
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 1: l s U won their team, you can't obviously, you

1080
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: gotta have good offensive players. Offense was never a problem

1081
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,760
Speaker 1: for him. He always had star quarterbacks, star wide receivers,

1082
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: star running backs. An NFL alignment, they didn't have the

1083
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: defense where Pete Carroll separated himself, pass rushers, linebacking play.

1084
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: They were so good in the front seven. They could

1085
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 1: out physical people. It's why they could beat the SEC teams.

1086
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: And I just don't know, we have to see if

1087
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: Lincoln I know he I know he understands that. But

1088
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: if he there's a difference between knowing what you need

1089
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: to do and truly like thinking about six Because to me,

1090
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 1: his number one goal should be to get defensive players

1091
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: offensives things. It's gonna be easy. Offense is not the problem.

1092
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: As someone who bet on Jason Day this weekend, chipping

1093
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: and putting for Jason Day, he could do that in

1094
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: his sleep. Jason Day is one of the best putters

1095
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: on the PGA Tour. Every time he plays his short

1096
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 1: game is stupid. It's all about his back, not getting

1097
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: hurt and hitting fairways. If Jason Day is gonna hit fairways,

1098
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: he's gonna have a chance to compete in any PGA

1099
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: Golf tournament. If Lincoln Riley gets a defense, he'll be

1100
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 1: able to hang with anybody. That's a big if. Is

1101
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: it time to stop talking about the intangibles of Doc

1102
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: We just watched Joe Burrow on a rookie contract take

1103
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: two Tiger teams to the championship game without the best coach,

1104
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 1: team and physical skills. Love the show, No, I mean

1105
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 1: into intangibles matter. Part of Joe Burrows story is his intangibles.

1106
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,760
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow has elite intangibles. When you say the it factor,

1107
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: he's got it. I think we questioned like I think

1108
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: Doak is good intangible. It's like I think he's a

1109
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 1: good leader. I think he's tough. I think Das problem

1110
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: is physical skills. Joe Burrows just a better thrower of

1111
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: the football. Joe Burrow is just a better quarterback. I'd

1112
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 1: say intangibles. They actually feel kind of similar. The Dacks

1113
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: intangibles are not the problem. I think we need to

1114
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: talk more about DA's accuracy, about Dack's arm strength, about

1115
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: Dak's playmaking ability. That to me, is the issue. Intangibles.

1116
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: I never get tired talking intangibles. We should celebrate good people,

1117
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: especially in a time and age when everyone on social

1118
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 1: media is fucking miserable. I'm all, I I have no issue.

1119
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: Like I thought Doc was pretty terrible against the Niners,

1120
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: but I respect the ship out of that guy as

1121
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: a human being. And the NFL, I say it all

1122
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 1: the time, is full of great people. But not amall

1123
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: or great players. Know that Dax is not a great player.

1124
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: What do you think of McDaniels and the Raiders? Fit

1125
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 1: Raiders and Waller in his scheme seemed to be intriguing.

1126
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: I talked about it earlier. I would say he's gonna

1127
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: love Hunter Renfro. The league loves Hunter Renfro. Hunter Renfro

1128
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: is an elite slot receiver. Elite, and Darren Waller went

1129
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: healthy is incredible. Uh, it would be interesting to see

1130
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: who he hires a defensive coordinator. I actually think they

1131
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: got some pieces on the you know, on the team.

1132
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: They need to find a right tackle. Uh, they need

1133
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: to find a true outside wide receiver. They just need

1134
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: better personnel and their back seven. But it's it's not

1135
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: a bad starting spot at all. Would you take a

1136
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: Lava or London? Settle this silly argument? Well, when London

1137
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: broke his ankle during the season, I had a buddy

1138
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: who told me that he thought he was the best

1139
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: wide receiver in the draft. Now he's not a fast player. Uh,

1140
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure he won't be able to run by the

1141
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 1: combine because of the ankle. I mean a lave a

1142
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: guys like a Lava, I would say, end to translate

1143
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: more consistently to the NFL. But when Drake London's do hit,

1144
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: If I remember correctly, I think Mike Evans was like

1145
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: a four or four guy. I don't know how fast.

1146
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: Drake London nous, but his ball skills, his physical nature.

1147
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: If he can play like, if it translates to the NFL,

1148
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: he can dominate. Now you can see guys like that.

1149
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: You know, Chase Claypool, It's like, damn, Chase Claypool is

1150
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: a freak, right, but there are a lot of guys

1151
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: that are freaks that don't turn into anything. I don't

1152
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: know about a Lave. I'm assume he's a good character,

1153
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: good guy, hard worker. I have a hard time seeing

1154
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: Chris Lave suck now. Also being a wide receiver, it's like,

1155
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: what if I go to a team that has a

1156
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: crappy quarterback? Right, If I play wide receiver for the

1157
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: Giants or I play wide receiver for the Chiefs, it

1158
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: looks a little bit different. You put Drake London with

1159
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen, but he's awesome. You put

1160
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: Chris Lave with Daniel Jones or Jimmy Garoppolo might not

1161
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: look as great. And I'm not that's that's sorry, Jimmy,

1162
00:58:57,960 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be in the same sentence as Daniel j

1163
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: But you know, what I mean. I've listened to you

1164
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: since Collins feed. Uh big fan. Appreciate it. Ryan. I

1165
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: lived near Modesto, so I'm not that far from you.

1166
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: Nice to have someone local that knows the Niners so well,

1167
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: but also everyone around the league. I know you like

1168
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: to bet a little bit, and I was on my

1169
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: bookie and I figured this play out and figured I'd

1170
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: share it with you. Casey isn't gonna lose. Yeah, we

1171
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 1: were wrong. He shared a parlay and uh, and we

1172
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: both lost. He did put thousand dollars in the Niners

1173
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 1: money line. I did that as well, also lost. You know, gambling.

1174
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: I love gambling when someone puts it out like uh.

1175
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: Action Network often does this. Maybe Darren Ravelle, who's a

1176
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: little weird though, but he's got some fun nuggets every

1177
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 1: once in a a while. That's someone mid Chiefs game put

1178
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: two d dollars on the Chiefs to win twelve thou dollars.

1179
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 1: I never understand that bet, even though I kind of do.

1180
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: Like if I had five million dollars and I just

1181
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: had a bank, you know, with a couple of million

1182
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: dollars just to always bet with, I'd be like, well,

1183
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: I could turn three thousand dollars into in an hour.

1184
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: Where else can you do that? You can't, right, So

1185
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: it's just it's probably boredom. But it's sports man, you know.

1186
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 1: I I never I've never been a big fan of

1187
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: betting a lot on money line teams like this team.

1188
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: You gotta bet, you know, a thousand dollars to win

1189
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 1: a hundred like that bet sucks, or even like a

1190
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: thousand dollars to win four hundred. I'm good. Why is

1191
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: everybody only talking about Jimmy g today? Yes, it was

1192
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: a bone headed play. The run to the fullback on

1193
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: fourth and two was one of the worst nails in

1194
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: the coffin. They dropped. The interception was another one. Most importantly,

1195
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 1: the corners are terrible. They couldn't cover a wall with

1196
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: ten gallons of paint. They seem to watch the d

1197
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 1: line and if it's not a sack then they then

1198
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: they try to cover. Yeah, I mean the Nights got

1199
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 1: beat man, I agree, I mean the Nighters got outplayed.

1200
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: Rams outplayed him. Rams took it to him most of

1201
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: the game. The Rams took it to him, and I

1202
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: just had a couple of good drives. Defensively, they were

1203
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: terrible on third down. You know, they couldn't really get

1204
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:05,439
Speaker 1: the pressure like they have the last couple of weeks.

1205
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: Part of that, you know, I'm not I'm not here bitching,

1206
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 1: but you know, the one thing, and I'm good with this.

1207
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 1: I I always say this about the NBA. Swallow your whistle,

1208
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 1: Let the kids play. If you're not gonna call holding,

1209
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm cool with it. If you're not gonna call hard fouls,

1210
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: I'm cool with it. This this is the playoffs. I

1211
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: don't need you to overregulate the game. Let him play,

1212
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 1: Let him play. I don't need p I called on

1213
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 1: every play. It does not bother me. I'm always It's

1214
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 1: why James Harden gets throttled in the playoffs. They don't

1215
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 1: fucking blow the whistle every time you drive to the basket, Homie,

1216
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: that doesn't work right. Skill game, figure it out. Michael

1217
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 1: Jordan got taken out. He figured out, Kobe figured it out,

1218
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice figured it out. The best players figure it out.

1219
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 1: But in one off games, if you're kind of feeling

1220
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 1: your way and you're like they're not calling it, it

1221
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 1: can cost you. And I think you saw that just again.

1222
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: Totally cool with the referees. Not now. I don't know

1223
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: if the TV was on the same page as the

1224
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: in house clock. There were several delay at games that

1225
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 1: they did not call in that game. Definitely. Niner has

1226
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: benefited on one too, but the Rams, it felt like,

1227
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: benefited on like three again. Like they say that the

1228
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: white line or not the white line, but the red

1229
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 1: line or the yellow line where uh you know the

1230
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: first down marker is they say is not an actual representation.

1231
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: You know it's not. That's not an official line. I don't.

1232
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if the clock on TV's official, but

1233
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 1: if it is, they were not. But I can say

1234
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 1: all the time the referees are terrible in the NFL.

1235
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:36,439
Speaker 1: Doesn't care. I think, listen, this is not a shot

1236
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 1: at you Bengals fans. I know you're passionate. I know

1237
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: you love your team. You know it's the NFL thrilled

1238
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: to the Bengals are in the Super Bowl. We'll see,

1239
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 1: well the ratings, it might, it might not matter. I'm

1240
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 1: a lifelong Rams fan and just watched them finally put

1241
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: the Nighters away, and it feels like the biggest game

1242
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 1: of mcveigh's career so far. My question is with cups

1243
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,959
Speaker 1: performance all year long, I wonder why he isn't getting

1244
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: more consideration for m v P. Well, the MVP the

1245
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 1: voting is over, So I mean, I think we all

1246
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: assume Rogers one. I think it's just simple. They're they're

1247
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 1: not it's a quarterback award. They might as well just

1248
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: announce it's a quarterback award. Cooper Cup through twenty games.

1249
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 1: I did the math. Hundred seventy catches, yards and twenty touchdowns, Like,

1250
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: the guy is in a completely different level. But they're

1251
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: just not gonna vote for him. They're just they're just not.

1252
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: He has no chance to win the m v P.

1253
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: It's it's a quarterback award, which we could argue stupid,

1254
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 1: but it is what it is. I'd give my left

1255
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 1: arm to see the Jets make the playoffs. And I

1256
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: was just curious on what you take is on the

1257
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 1: possibility of a Bengals like rebound in twenty two. I

1258
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: know the division is brutal, but do you think Zach

1259
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 1: Wilson has the chops? Uh? I think it would be

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Speaker 1: an enormous stretch. Zack Wilson hasn't shown anything near Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 1: I mean what Joe Burrow did at l s U

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Speaker 1: in the highest level Zack Wilson did against like you know,

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Speaker 1: we were staying cal Poly and Coastal Carolina, and actually

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Speaker 1: he didn't even play well against Coastal Carolina. He's a

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Speaker 1: major work in progress. But in fairness is Zack Wilson

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Speaker 1: who showed signs Their defense was a trocious atrocious. So

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Speaker 1: if you can't play defense, Josh Allen, obviously the Bills

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01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: are way better than you. I mean, the Patriots are

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Speaker 1: dramatically better than you two and the Dolphins, while they

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Speaker 1: got issues, now we'll see who knows who their coach

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Speaker 1: is gonna be. I I don't think you can make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, but if Zack Wilson is a pro bowler,

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Speaker 1: then maybe you could win eight nine games. I would

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Speaker 1: say if Zach Wilson is a pro bowler in two

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Speaker 1: thousand twenty two, it would be one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: stories of the league. I mean their defense, I didn't

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Speaker 1: they I mean I heard people saying this. They had

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Speaker 1: one of the worst defenses in franchise history. And their

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Speaker 1: head coach is a defensive guy. What I don't understand

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Speaker 1: about Robert and I like him, slid your one year

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01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 1: old guy hired you. I want you to call the defense.

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01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't understand these young guys that don't

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01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 1: call the side of the ball for the reason that

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01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 1: they got hired. If I wanted to CEO, i'd called

1285
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 1: Warren Buffett and ask for his advice. Who told hire,

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01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 1: I'm looking for a young gun who can call plays.

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01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh, Kyle Shanahan the floor, Andy Reid once upon

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01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 1: a time when he was hired, Sean Payton when he

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01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: was hired. Hell, even Bruce arians and Mike Zimmer, they

1290
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 1: were in their sixties when they finally got a job.

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01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 1: What do they do? They coordinated their side of the

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01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 1: ball at Arizona in Minnesota. I don't understand why you

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01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 1: don't coordinate your side of the ball. That that really

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01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 1: bothers me. It just doesn't that up. Okay, last one,

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Speaker 1: I'm not even sure how to bring this up. I

1296
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 1: keep seeing it on social media comments on several different

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01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 1: platforms that the NFC and a FC Championship games were fixed.

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Speaker 1: My initial take is, you're an idiot if you think

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01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 1: the NFL is ricked. But not to be completely close minded,

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01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 1: you know, it's like, hey, you're a crazy asshole for

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01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 1: these conspiracy theories. But you know what kind of resonates Uh,

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01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 1: have you ever encountered her blinks from your context or

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01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 1: time in the league that this is an issue. There

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01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 1: is a lot of money related to betting, so I

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01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:10,959
Speaker 1: can't say that I would be surprised. Well, here's why

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01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: it's not possible. Let's just use a regular season example.

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01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes makes forty million dollars. Right, Tom Brady is

1308
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 1: making twenty five million dollars. You got Aaron Donald making

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01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars. What gambling company is going to be

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01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 1: able to pay them? It was easy to fix in

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01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:31,439
Speaker 1: the blackstock days of nineteen twenty. No one's making any money. Hell,

1312
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 1: it was easy to fix stuff in the seventies and eighties.

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01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 1: A guy might be making two grand to play pro sports,

1314
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 1: so it's like, hey, I'll give you fifty grand. So

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01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 1: if I'm making two d grand and someone pays me

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01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 1: a quarter of my salary to to you know, throw

1317
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: a couple of in completions. I'm not saying that happened.

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01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:53,919
Speaker 1: It pencils. What can you pay me to get me

1319
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 1: to put my career on the line and and serve

1320
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 1: jail time if I get caught? I make if I'm

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01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: let's just say a quarterback. Let's say I'm Att Stafford.

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01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 1: I make thirty five million dollars a year, so I

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01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 1: basically make two million dollars a week during the season. Well,

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna do plays a fifty million dollar bet?

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01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 1: You place a fifty million dollar bet on the Rams game,

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01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: and let's say you're trying to indu, you know, get

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Speaker 1: Stafford to throw the game the fifty Once he plays

1328
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 1: a fifty million dollar bet, the Feds would be, you know, triggered,

1329
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 1: they would know about it. The casinos, the red flags

1330
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 1: would go off. But again, if I'm Matt Stafford, let's

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Speaker 1: say you're gonna give me ten million dollars, what's ten

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Speaker 1: million actually worth to me? I'm already worth three d

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Speaker 1: million and I make two make two million dollars a week,

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Speaker 1: and I'm the only guy that truly can influence it,

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Speaker 1: even a coach. Okay, you can give a coach a

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01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 1: million dollars. Well, if I'm Sean mcvagh make ten, so

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Speaker 1: it's one million dollars going to be worth it. I

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01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 1: think these guys make way too much money. Now, maybe

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01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 1: you could do it. You could do it in college sports, potentially,

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Speaker 1: but I think it's impossible in the pros because all

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Speaker 1: the star players that dictate the game games and even

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Speaker 1: the coaches, even a lower paid coach like you have

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Speaker 1: a five million dollar a year job, even if someone's

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01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 1: gonna pay me five grand to you know, keep point

1345
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 1: spread close or not cover, it's just not worth it.

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01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 1: He would be worth it if you're making fifty grand

1347
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:19,799
Speaker 1: and someone's offering you five. But that's it's the complete opposite.

1348
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 1: In the moment you place a bet of any consequences,

1349
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: it gets flagged. No one would even take that bet.

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01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you'd be hard pressed to find to be

1351
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 1: able to place a bet like bigger than a couple

1352
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Speaker 1: of million dollars unless you're quote unquote high roller in

1353
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 1: the place. But the high rollers like they would keep

1354
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 1: close to habs on those guys. So I just zero

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01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 1: chance was ricked. Now. I do think the referees greatly

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Speaker 1: impact the game. Now, could they be on the take?

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Speaker 1: We've seen it before. I grew up a Sacramento Kings fan.

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Speaker 1: I ditched them because they're the worst franchise in all

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Speaker 1: of sports. Uh. I'm conditionally loyal to any sports team,

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01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:59,600
Speaker 1: and the Sacramento Kings Boop got the boot. But you

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01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:02,719
Speaker 1: know tim Onogy once screwed them with the l A Lakers.

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Speaker 1: That's not an opinion, that's a fact. He was in

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Speaker 1: bed with the mob. Actually read his book. I haven't

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01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 1: sitting in the bookcase over there. He used to go

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Speaker 1: to the Philadelphia Marriott where when I was with the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: where all of our players would stay and I would

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01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 1: pick them up my first year. And I also pick

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01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 1: up Douce Daley. He was an intern my first year.

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01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 1: I used to pick him up to come to work.

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01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 1: You know. Sometimes he wasn't always on time, and be

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01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 1: like Deuce, I'd be calling him, come to go. I

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Speaker 1: can't be late. They're paying me eighteen thousand dollars. I

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01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 1: gotta be on time. Deuce, would you know, come down

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01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:33,680
Speaker 1: about seven fifteen and then we'd fire to the office. Uh,

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01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 1: good times. I love Deuce Daley. Lions, you should be

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01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 1: happy he's on your staff. Have a good week, Talk

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01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 1: soon and uh subscribe to the podcast. Share with your friends.

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