1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. On today's show, Danny Serek joins me. 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: We talk episode three of Hard Knocks in season and yeah, 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: that means unfortunately, revisiting the one sided loss to the 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 1: forty nine ers. Also, will he or won't he play 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: this week? Of course, I'm referring to Kyler Murray. It's 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two, episode six eighteen, and it starts now. 7 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two, hitting the backfield and Downy 8 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: goes for a loss. JJ Watt Nailed It. Cardinals Cover 9 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: two is presented by Hun Day Proud partner of the 10 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Easy Cardinals 11 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: dot com Slash podcasts. He's at the ten half of 12 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: five pas in again, so for Harry Magic. Whoa, here's 13 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: Craig Grielou. All right, let's just get this out of 14 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: the way, off the top, Danny, because it's what people 15 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: have been waiting to see or at least hear us 16 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: react to. And that was the fact that the you know, 17 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: Benjamin story was not addressed in episode three of Hard Knocks. 18 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: We knew that ahead of time. Bottom line not addressed. 19 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: We move on. It's not surprising me there wasn't footage 20 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: in there. I mean, I know, based upon the reports, 21 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: if things happened, either you know, in the locker room 22 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: after the game or in an office the day after, 23 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me if hard Knocks wasn't there, that 24 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: they wouldn't be like, hey, we're talking to you know, Benjamin, 25 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: want to come on over and see what he's talking about. Now. 26 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: I am surprised. I would imagine they had some footage 27 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: of him on the sideline, sitting on the bench or 28 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: whatever it might have been, during the game, and I'm 29 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: surprised we didn't see that. I'm surprised it wasn't addressed 30 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: at all. I'm not surprised we didn't see any like 31 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: footage of them talking about him leaving, because we didn't 32 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: really receive any information to begin with, and again, they 33 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: probably didn't have the footage of whatever conversation went down. 34 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: But I was a little surprised to not see anything 35 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: happen on the sideline. I'm not sure if it's because 36 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: he's now with another team and that's things taken into consideration. 37 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that came from in house of 38 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: we don't want this being aired, because I don't know 39 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: the final decision making process, but obviously Hard Knocks gets things, 40 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: and I'm sure they have more poll in some areas, 41 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: and obviously the team the organization is going to have 42 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: some sort of poll. It's not like, hey, record everything 43 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: and it's just a free for all. We get no say. 44 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: There's obviously some middle ground that happens, so I'm not 45 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: sure what the decision was. I was a little surprised 46 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: again to not see any sort of footage at all 47 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: it even brought up, but it is what it is, 48 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: and it's time to move on. It was one of 49 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: two storylines from episode two that we thought did not 50 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: get addressed in episode two that we thought we would 51 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: get some answers or at least get discussed in episode three. 52 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: Nothing on Eno Benjamin, but we did get some news 53 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: on zach Ertz that was finally addressed, and that goes 54 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: back to what we were talking about a week ago, 55 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: Danny was these episodes are from really Monday to postgame Sunday, 56 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: and the arts news. As far as the injury, the 57 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 1: severity him done for the season didn't really play out 58 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: until Tuesday Wednesday of the week leading into this episode, 59 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: so it was a small part of episode three, but 60 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: just kind of fed the narrative and the storyline of 61 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: this entire season. Another injury, another player lost, another offensive 62 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: player lost, another starting offensive player lost, and this team 63 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: really has not had its pieces offensive pieces on the 64 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: field at the same time at all this year, and 65 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: they won't. I think we're going to see more in 66 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: depth about the zach Ertz not necessarily injury, but recovery 67 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: later on. He just had surgery. I would imagine once 68 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: he's back in the facility doing rehab, and he'll probably 69 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: be in the meeting rooms as you get further along 70 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: down the season. If you don't have as many storylines 71 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: you necessarily want to touch on. I'm sure that's something 72 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: that there will be more in depth covering that story. 73 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, it was a little touch on it, and 74 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: it's just it's basically how the first episode ended the 75 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: voiceover when it said even in Arizona, when it rains, 76 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: it pours. Kyler Murray touched on it in an episode. 77 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: It's just kind of felt like a revolving door with 78 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: the players that have come in and come out, and 79 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: it's hard because this offense is what this team was 80 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: really going to be built upon was having a defense 81 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: that was going to do just enough to keep you 82 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: in the games and having an explosive offense. After those 83 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: first six games, once Deandrew Hopkins came back from his suspension, 84 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: hop hasn't played a game with Hollywood Brown, who was 85 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: designated to return last week. He missed five games now 86 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: with a foot injury. He didn't play in Mexico Monday night, 87 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: So if he's able to play Sunday against the Chargers, 88 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: it's the first time he plays with Hope. However, now 89 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: we won't get to see the two of them out there. 90 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: You already touched on with Zecherts. We won't see the 91 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: two of them out there quite yet. With wide receiver 92 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: Rondel Moore, who we know will at least miss this 93 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: game with a groin injury, it's just tough and every 94 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: team deals with injuries. Every team has adversity. By the 95 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: time you get to the season. That's a huge factor 96 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: in winning games is how healthy are you? And right 97 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: now the Cardinals are out a spot where they're not 98 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: healthy and it's just kind of trying to get to 99 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: the bye week next week. If you can just get 100 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: to the bye as healthy as you can give those 101 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: players extra time to recover, you hope you can make 102 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: a push in that final stretch of the season. But 103 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: they have just been hit hard. And it's usually position groups. 104 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: It's not spread across the entire team, but it's been 105 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: the offensive line room, the wide receiver room. Whether it's 106 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: knicks or serious injuries. This team is just trying to 107 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: piece it together. As Steve com addressing this staff, keep 108 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: it going, mentioning that trying to find warm bodies and 109 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: the words of the general manager just to get through 110 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: that particular week. As we look back at the Mexico 111 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: City game and the loss of the San Francisco forty 112 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: nine is when you look at the totality of episode three, 113 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: what stood out to you, Well, again, off the top 114 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: more Buddha Baker talk was he was living. I don't 115 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: mean to catch off, Sorry about that. That's very right, 116 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: That's okay, Craig. He was limping on the way to 117 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: the group celebration after his interception. The man hobbled. I mean, 118 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: at that point, if you're his teammate, do you not 119 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,799 Speaker 1: just say, all right, the man obviously should not be playing. 120 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: He is credit to him. Do we need him to 121 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: run down field and mug for the cameras when he 122 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: barely can walk. It probably made it feel better, right, 123 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: if you're going to get that far and you're already 124 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: in fain, you might as well enjoy the celebration. Of course, 125 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: Buddha again getting that recognition. Off the top, I thought 126 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: this was a really interesting episode because I thought off 127 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: the field, there were a lot of really good moments. 128 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: I loved every bit of will Hernandez returning to Mexico 129 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: City and with his family and then just saying even 130 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: if we're not there, we're in your corner, and that 131 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: he was unable to play he's on ir with a 132 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: strained peck, But just the fact that his family, who 133 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: lives in Mexico City, was going to a Studios Teca 134 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: for the first time, and Will Hernandez being able to 135 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: run out onto the field with the Mexico flag and 136 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: being at the NFL logo and waiving it like it 137 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: just gave me goose bumps. Just so incredible. And the 138 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: fact that we also have Rolando Contu on our team, 139 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: who back in two thousand and five was on the 140 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: Cardinals roster. I believe the first Mexican non born kicker 141 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: to be in the NFL and so then to kind 142 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: of have that feel a little full circle and I 143 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: think knowing to just part of our Spanish broadcast team 144 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: that aspect and how meaningful it was for them to 145 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: get back as well. To see that Will Hernandez side 146 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: in this Hard Knocks episode was really great to see. 147 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: The game itself was hard. It was hard to watch. 148 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: I liked the Antonio Hamilton story on him and the 149 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: burns and the interception against the Saints, and I thought 150 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: that despite the defense's performance, he was a great player 151 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: to have miked up. And it's hard watching those losses, 152 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: those ugly losses. That second half was not great by 153 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: any means for the Cardinals, but to watch and hear 154 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: the way that they were holding themselves accountable and trying 155 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: to fix those mistakes and hearing, you know, Colt McCoy 156 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: and trying to rally the troops and he was throwing 157 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: good balls. And it's hard when you have so many 158 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: receivers who aren't number one receivers or in their position 159 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: group because they're not getting those kinds of reps in practice. 160 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: And we saw that on the fourth downplay with Greg Dortch, 161 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: who was not in the right spot and you feel 162 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: for them. I mean, you feel for Cole McCoy who 163 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: was out there and he was banged up and they 164 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: were playing in the rain, and he's doing the best 165 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: he can with an almost entirely backup offensive line and 166 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: trying to get the ball out. And it's like, and 167 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: maybe that's just because I might be biased because I 168 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: cover this team and I'm in the locker room when 169 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: you get to understand who these players are as people 170 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: a little more, but he just feel for him and 171 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: what he was trying to do. And Cliff Kingsbury said, 172 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 1: it's just it's one of those games. Like the San 173 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers. Props to them. They are getting 174 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: hot at the right time, a very explosive, dominant offense. 175 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: It was just not the Cardinal's day. But what's cool 176 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: about Hart Knocks is even though it was an ugly game, personally, 177 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: I still like being able to see and hear these 178 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: players miked up and seeing their perspective. It was not 179 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: talked a lot about in the moments, even on Cardinal Talk, 180 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: but the missed opportunity, the Steven Anderson pass or should 181 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: have been a catch, great throw by Colt McCoy and 182 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: Anderson not able to pull it in in the end zone. 183 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: How much that might have factored in to the totality 184 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: of the entire game. Yes, the forty nine Ers were 185 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: a better team. They are a very very good team. 186 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: And everything that the coaches talked about during the week, 187 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: whether it was Charlie Bullen talking about Christian McCaffrey or 188 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel or Brian Natkin talking about Nick Bosa and 189 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: Fred Warner, that was all on full display in front 190 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: of a national television audience on Monday, and what we 191 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: just rewatched had to rewatch in episode three of Hard 192 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: Knocks at forty nine Ers team offense and defense very 193 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: very good. The Cardinals knew exactly what they were getting 194 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 1: to themselves into and the forty nine Ers delivered. They 195 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: performed well, and the Cardinals did not They needed to have. 196 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: Cardinals needed to play at their they needed an A 197 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: plus effort considering all of the players that they were missing, 198 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: and the forty nine Ers needed to be several notches 199 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: below that in order for the Cardinals to walk off 200 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: that field with the W and it just did not happen. 201 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: It just wasn't their night. And mc colt. McCoy even 202 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: said on the bench to Cliff Kingsbury, They're not surprising me. 203 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: I know what I'm I know what I'm saying. I'm 204 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: prepared for what I'm saying. It. It was off for them, 205 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: and it's unfortunate because you're at this point in the 206 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: season and even though you're having to kind of change 207 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: your lineup up every single game because of injuries, it's 208 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: not a good enough excuse. Every team is dealing with 209 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: that to some extent, whether they're dealing with it to 210 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 1: the extent of the Cardinals maybe not. That's the hand 211 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: you've been dealt. It's just it's it's hard to watch 212 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: a game like that because it just felt like they 213 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: were so dejected. The tackling on defense was abysmal. It 214 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: was horrible. And the fact that at the end of 215 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: the episode Cliff Kingsbury was talking about needing that effort 216 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: of something Bod Baker talked about postgame in the locker room, 217 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: finishing the games full out, having that effort start to finish, 218 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: and that just wasn't there from the team as a whole. 219 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: Saw some accountability from Antonio Hamilton that last George Kittle touchdown, 220 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: saying quote, I thought he stepped out of bounds because 221 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: it didn't outlook good. That was one of those plays 222 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: that everyone pointed to. Running down the sideline, Kittle basically 223 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 1: going untouched and then Red Jerseys just falling all over themselves. 224 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: It was not a good look, and Hamilton owned up 225 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: to it. But you can never you never think you 226 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: just have to make the play in that moment, and 227 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: it was not made. And whether that was one of 228 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 1: the reasons why Buddha Baker said what he did postgame, 229 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: but that effort needs to be there from here on out. 230 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: You've got six games. Don't let anyone and that was 231 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: part of Cliff's message postgame, and then in a team meeting, 232 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: don't let anyone question your effort because that's the one 233 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: thing you and you alone can control. And this team 234 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: right now has six games where all of the ones 235 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: are gonna be watching. What kind of effort do you 236 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: bring on Sunday. Here's the crazy thing, Craig. The Cardinals 237 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: are technically not completely out of it. They are third 238 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: in the NFC West, behind the Seahawks and the forty 239 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: nine ers, and your chances of winning the division not 240 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: only just based on overall record are not great. You 241 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: have one divisional win over the Ramps, so you don't 242 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: have those tiebreakers. The only divisional game left is against 243 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers at the end of the season. 244 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: The rest of the NFC though, and this is really 245 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: only if the Cardinals can get this win Sunday gets 246 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: the Chargers and go on a roll, they have a 247 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: chance to still be in the playoff hunt, which is 248 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: wild sitting at four and seven at the moment, so 249 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: they still have something to play for at this point. 250 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: You know, looking at this upcoming game specifically, I don't 251 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: even think it matters who their opponent is. I think 252 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: the biggest challenge they're going to face is the mental 253 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: side of things. Can you truly go out there and 254 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: give it your all, with your backs against the wall 255 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: and so many things stacking up against you, with the record, 256 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: with playing at home, which they haven't done well at, 257 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: with the injuries you're facing, can you go out there 258 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: and can you put that aside? And can you play 259 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: hard for one another, start to finish for an entire 260 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: sixty minutes and if you can get a win and 261 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: you can find a way to start stacking back to 262 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: back wins generating momentum. This team is not out of it. 263 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: Some of these players who are injured can still come back, 264 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: So this game is important. Obviously, you has to get 265 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: the win, but I think mentally as well, you don't 266 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: want to get to a point to where players are 267 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: checking out way too soon when there still was chance 268 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: for them to be in the playoff race. Whatever happens 269 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: on Sunday, we do know that, as you mentioned, rondel 270 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: Moore will not playing. We saw that footage in episode 271 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: three of rondel Moore, by the way, the fact that 272 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: everyone had to walk up an incline to exit into 273 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: the locker room. That was a little odd for me. 274 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: And I know a stadio steck is different than what 275 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: we have here in the States, but normally you're either 276 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: going downhill on a decline or just walking level into 277 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: a locker room, and this one you're walking up and 278 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: he had a groin injury, so I'm sure that didn't 279 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: help matters any the elevation, Craig, it was not just 280 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: that it was uphill. It was long. You guys saw 281 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: the ramp that went from the field and it went 282 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: pretty far just straight ahead. That's not where the locker 283 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: room was you get to the end of that long 284 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: strip of the ramp and you turn right, and you 285 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: walk about half as long and then you make like 286 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: a U turn and then you take another sharp right 287 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: and that's how you enter the locker room. So it 288 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: was a long walk, it was high elevation. I can't 289 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: imagine how uncomfortable that might have been for Rondol Moore. 290 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: It did open up an opportunity for Greg dorts And 291 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: this is one of the positives from Monday Night's game 292 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: and captured by the hard knock cameras, was Greg dorge 293 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: being able to get those reps that Rondel Moore took 294 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: all week long. I mentioned it on Cardinal Talk, this 295 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: was going to be a huge Rondell Moore game against 296 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. He gets hurt two snaps into it, 297 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: all right, next man up, Greg Dortch has a huge game, 298 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: over one hundred receiving yards, his first ever one hundred 299 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: yard receiving game. He took those reps. But then you 300 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: talked about that miscommunication between quarterback and wide receiver. Well, 301 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: it's a play that Rondel Moore ran during the week, 302 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: not Greg Dortch, not an excuse, But that's just the 303 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: fact and what the Cardinals were up against when Rondell 304 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: was unable to continue and all of a sudden, Greg 305 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: Dorche got all those snaps. That's part of it. You're right, 306 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: it's no excuse. It's obviously easier if your author getting 307 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: reps in practice. That's just the way it is. If 308 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: you're the ones, you're getting reps with the ones. Otherwise 309 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: you're not, and you have to know the playbook that 310 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: much better. Greg Dortch did what he's done all year, 311 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: which was play the best of his ability when his 312 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: number has been called upon. He ended up having a 313 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: thumb injury that he had an MRI on, so he's 314 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: day to day. I'm not sure what he was listed 315 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: on on the injury report. For the Wednesday walk there 316 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: not participants did not participate and thursdays another walkthrough and 317 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: so we'll see Friday out there at practice. When the 318 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: media gets to be out there, it's it is the 319 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: way it is. Unfortunately when it comes to Greg Dortch, 320 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: and that's what a lot of fans have been asking 321 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: for was when Rondale was out the first few couple games, 322 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: Greg Dortch their training camp through those first couple of 323 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 1: games this season, was playing really well. He was up 324 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: there with targets with Hollywood Brown. He was very reliable. 325 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: But when you look at the size and where he plays, 326 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: that's what you have Rondale more for that that's your 327 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: draft pick that you're using, and that that's just unfortunate 328 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: that that's the way it is. You don't really have 329 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: many options to have both of them out there on 330 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: the field at the same time. But now with Rondale 331 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: missing time, this is time for Greg Dwart to step up. 332 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: And I'm sure you know personally it was exciting to 333 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: have that first hundred yard game of his career, although 334 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: also probably stings that it was the loss type of 335 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: loss that the Cardinals had. But he's done well when 336 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: he's been called upon. So if he's able to play, 337 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: I would expect him to have a large role in 338 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: this offense because because he's been reliable when when he's 339 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: been asked to play. A couple of other items on 340 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: episode three, Hard Knocks here as we discuss its instant 341 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: reaction on Cardinals cover two presented by Hunday, Probably partner 342 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals will get into the quarterback News 343 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:46,239 Speaker 1: on Wednesday. But I thought one and this ties in 344 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: perfectly because your sideline exchange this week was with Steve Strout, 345 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: excuse me, with Steve Trout, the senior director of Hard Knocks, 346 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: and it was a great conversation that the two of 347 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: you had prior to the game in Mexico City, but 348 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: just some background on what Hard Knocks is all about. 349 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: And one thing that really stood out to me, because 350 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: I think we saw it in episode three, was how 351 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: they wanted, in his words, not just a football series, 352 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: but a human series. And I think we saw that 353 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,959 Speaker 1: with Antonio Hamilton, and we saw that with Will Hernandez, 354 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: specifically with Will going back home to Mexico City. Did 355 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: not play, but you brought it up earlier running out 356 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 1: of the tunnel waiving the Mexican national flag, and just 357 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: that moment for him and maybe even more so the 358 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: moment for his family that was in attendance, just so special. 359 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: I mean, what a bummer he didn't play, But the 360 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: fact that he went out there and still had such 361 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: a meaningful presence and he went out there in the 362 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: off season and did stuff with the organization to get 363 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: ready for this game, and that's what it's all about. 364 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 1: And that's what I love about Hard Knocks is showing 365 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff that fans otherwise don't really get 366 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: to understand just how much a game like this means. Yes, 367 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: it's cool that the NFL is taking football international and 368 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: they're playing in all these cool spots, but it means 369 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: so much to people like Will Hernandez, to the fans 370 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: like that we're there at Estadiosteca in Mexico who don't 371 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: get the opportunity to see the NFL in person very often, 372 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: if ever. And even though it sounded more like a 373 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers home game with the amount of fans 374 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: that were there, the atmosphere was just incredible. I mean, 375 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: there were seventy three seventy eight thousand fans. It was insane, 376 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: Like the atmosphere was just electric. But I'm so glad 377 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: that Hard Knocks and NFL Films was able to capture 378 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: so many special moments with Will and his family, because 379 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: you almost feel like you know them on stories like that, 380 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: Like it just makes you feel a deep connection with 381 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,239 Speaker 1: them of understanding when when players say this is so 382 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: much more than just the game of football, that's the 383 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: kind of stuff they mean. And even before the game. 384 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 1: The day before the walkthrough, Will teaching JJ Watt perhaps 385 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 1: a new sack dance that would have been unveiled if 386 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: Watt had gotten a sack on Monday and then going 387 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: out to dinner with his family. But I'm sorry, Will, 388 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: I'm drawing the line right now, right now, there is 389 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: no way I am trying grasshoppers. I just would have 390 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: done it. I cannot do it, not even once he 391 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: said there was chili and lime on him. You're not 392 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: a live crag. It's not jumped out of his stomach. 393 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: I get that. I just I don't know. Are you 394 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 1: not an adventurous eater. I wouldn't call myself picky. That's 395 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: what picky eater say. I would not put myself in 396 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 1: the adventurous category either. I'm willing to try new things. 397 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: I just don't know if insects would be one of 398 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: those things I'm willing to try. Okay, that's fair. I 399 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: don't know that I would like take more than one 400 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: on I think the crunch might get me. Well, he said, 401 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,479 Speaker 1: you had to like take a pinch, so you're like 402 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 1: getting several, and yeah, they might be, so I don't 403 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 1: I don't know. I could not do it. Well. The 404 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: good news is I doubt you will find yourself in 405 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 1: a situation where you have to eat grasshoppers, So I 406 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: think you'll be okay unless it's peer pressure. Am I 407 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: peer pressuring you right now? Is it working? No? But 408 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: pretty close? Oh man, pretty close. But I liked those 409 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: moments that the Hard Knocks cameras captured. And then you 410 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: go back to Antonio Hamilton's re enacting what happened to 411 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: him right before the start of the regular season the kitchen, 412 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: of the incident in the kitchen and his wife, his 413 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: two young daughters, and just having to go through that 414 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: moment and how serious it was, thinking perhaps his playing 415 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: career was over as his wife is due to give 416 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: birth to their first son. So the emotional toll that 417 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: he and his wife were going through, and the season 418 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: had even started yet, and now here we all are 419 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: getting ready for week twelve and he gets that storybook ending, 420 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: so to speak, with that interception against the New Orleans 421 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: Saints on national television and gives the football to his wife. 422 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: Those moments, the Will Hernandez and Antonio Hamilton moments where yes, 423 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: these are football players, but they have lives outside of 424 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 1: the football field. Yeah, just incredible the year that Antonio 425 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: Hamilton has had, and I'm really glad they were able 426 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: to go into his home and in the kitchen where 427 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: everything happened and hear his side of the story, and 428 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: we've covered it, you know, and full and how grateful 429 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: he is to be healthy and to be playing football 430 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: and to have the type of year he's having, and 431 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: the fact that he's able to get back onto the 432 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: field when he was in training camp and he was 433 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: named starter opposite of Byra Murphy. So for him to 434 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: work and work hard and get back to that same 435 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: spot now is really incredible and really inspirational. Again, your 436 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: sideline exchange was Steve Trout, the senior director of Hard Knox. 437 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: I'd recommend watching it whether it's on Easy Cardinals dot 438 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: com or the Arizona Cardinals official YouTube channel, humanizing these players, 439 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: but then also the work that goes into these episodes 440 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 1: each episode and how much footage is shot versus how 441 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: much is used, and in the how they plan each episode. 442 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: Because this one episode three, going to Mexico City, perfect storyline. 443 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: Will Hernandez, even though he was not going to play, 444 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: it was a storyline worth pursuing and following throughout the 445 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: entire week. Yeah, and they do a really great job 446 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: of telling those stories and taking it full advantage of 447 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: the players. They have Mike Dapper, things that are said 448 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: in the meeting rooms, and really telling an entire story 449 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: in a very short amount of time. And there's a 450 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: lot of cool things. I appreciate you plug in the interview, 451 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: but it's so interesting. Of it's not like the shooters 452 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: that are out here at the facility and Tempe are 453 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: putting the episodes together. All the footage is sent to 454 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: the headquarters in Jersey, and there are so many people 455 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: who have their hands on this to look through the 456 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 1: footage and decide hours upon hours what they have. How 457 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: much makes a forty five minute episode fifty minute episode. 458 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: I can't imagine that's an easy decision making process. We 459 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: talked about, you know, some of his favorite coaches or 460 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: players that they get to see, maybe not interact because 461 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: they try to be flies on the wall, but just 462 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: through meeting rooms and practices. I liked his answer it. 463 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was the answer I was 464 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: expecting for the player, but it makes sense when he 465 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: said it. I don't want to give it away, but 466 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: it was I would imagine, you know, a pretty good player, 467 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: a player who's already had some airtime on Hard Knocks 468 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,239 Speaker 1: already this season. But yeah, really interesting to also just 469 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: get to hear a little bit more about how big 470 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: their crew is, how many of them were traveling, how 471 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: many it takes for audio and camera and all of 472 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: everything just to make up one player. So I think 473 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: it's pretty cool to get a little bit behind the 474 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: scenes of the people who are behind the scenes. And 475 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: if you really paid attention to episode three, that final 476 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: scene where it says on the bottom of the screen 477 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: Wednesday morning, that's Wednesday morning, November twenty three, they included 478 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: footage as we on the day of that that episode debut, 479 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: and it was Cliff Kingsbury addressing the entire team, obviously 480 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: on the heels of the Sean Kugler news incident in 481 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: Mexico City, losing his job. Cliff addressing everyone in the 482 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: team meeting. I was maybe the Kugler news was addressed 483 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: earlier in the episode, but then to have that team 484 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: meeting on Wednesday, which is the day of the episode aired, 485 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: was impressive. The quick turnaround and then how this was 486 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: able to be all fit together in one nice little package, 487 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: if you will, very impressive. I thought the same thing 488 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: of wait a second, that was this morning that I'm watching, 489 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: and that was, you know, we talked about the effort 490 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 1: that we heard Bude Baker talk about. Cliff Kingsbury had 491 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: talked about it early in a press conference of saying, 492 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: you know, the players know, they know when they're not 493 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: putting in the effort. The ones who were you know, 494 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: we're saying, weren't putting in the full effort the full game. 495 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: They know. I don't need to say anything in them. 496 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 1: They know, And in that meeting Wednesday morning, Kingsbury said 497 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: to them, you know, there's there's two things. I don't 498 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: want you having to talk to the meeting about something 499 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 1: off the field, and I don't want to have any 500 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: answer questions about your effort on the field. So clearly 501 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: it's been an emphasis already and I'm sure we'll continue 502 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,719 Speaker 1: to be an emphasis leading into Sunday's game against the Chargers. 503 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: And the Kugler news was big obviously not there for 504 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: Monday's game. Now what happens next, and we know that 505 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 1: Steve Hyden, a tight ends coach, is going to have 506 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: a little bit larger role when it comes to the 507 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: run game. Brian Natkin will handle basically the offensive line. 508 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: He was your assistant offensive line coach. And I will 509 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 1: give credit to Calvin Beecham, the only healthy starter in 510 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: that offensive line room, stood in front of his locker 511 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: earlier on Wednesday and address reporters because we all had 512 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: question and Calvin Beacham, a stand up individual answering everything, 513 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: called it a shock, the news that Googler had been 514 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: fired a shock to the room. And I can only 515 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: imagine this is on Wednesday, what it was for those players, 516 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 1: especially the offensive lineman on Monday, whether they knew it 517 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: on Sunday night or Monday morning, or maybe even not 518 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: until Monday afternoon, that their offensive line coach was not 519 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: going to be with them, especially a position room that 520 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 1: isn't very very it's very banged up, it's not in 521 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: great shape. So now you're right. You have assistant coach 522 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: Sean Nakin who will take over those responsibilities, and players 523 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: like Calvin Beecham who have stepped up and answered questions. 524 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: And Cliff Kingsbury called him last week the CEO of 525 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: that room and the way he handles his business and 526 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: helps others, that's going to be more important now than ever. 527 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: And even the players who are hurt, who are still 528 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: around the abuilding, around the facility and meeting rooms, Ronnie Hutson, 529 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: DJ Humphries, who's day to day with his back. Everyone's 530 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: just going to have to step up and do what 531 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: they can to make sure everyone is prepared a little more. Now, 532 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: let's not leave this on a negative note. There is 533 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: some good news and probably great news from Wednesday. Yes, 534 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: a walk through that was closed, but after the walkthrough, 535 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury sounded very optimistic that Kyler Murray will play 536 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: this week. Quote definitely trending in the right direction. Kyler 537 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: himself answered, quote, I do when asked if he expected 538 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: to play this week. So as we sit here on Wednesday, 539 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: I do expect Kyler to be on that field on 540 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: Sunday against the Chargers before the bye week, because there 541 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: was an earlier report that perhaps he would wait until 542 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: after the bye week as he did a year ago, 543 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: missing three games plus using the bye week to get 544 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: healthy and then returning in twenty twenty one, Kyler Murray, 545 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: we'll be on that field, and to be honest, if 546 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: he's healthy or even if he's close to being healthy 547 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: now Cliff keeps saying one hundred percent. No one's one 548 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: hundred percent. But I would rather have a less than 549 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: one hundred percent Kyler Murray than a one hundred percent 550 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: of another quarterback out there, and not a knock on 551 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: Colt McCoy who's done a great job and how he 552 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: has stepped up. I agree with you. That's why Kyler 553 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: Murray is the franchise quarterback of the Arizona Cardinals because 554 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: of his abilities, and a large part of that that 555 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: makes him stand out from the other quarterbacks in the 556 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: league are his legs, and that's why he's missed the 557 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: last two games. Is when Kingsbury says being one hundred percent, 558 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: it's not necessarily can he throw the ball. It's when 559 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: Kyler finds himself in those situations where he needs to 560 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: escape the pocket and scramble and extend the place. Can 561 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: he do that where he feels comfortable and confident to 562 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: do that to his best ability to be able to 563 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: get the ball out, especially with a banged up offensive line. 564 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: Having Kyler Murray out on the field completely changes the 565 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: dynamics of this offense, completely changes the way the Chargers 566 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: will have to game plan for this Cardinal's offense, and 567 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: that again is because of his legs. He's been dealing 568 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: with a hamstring injury. So if I agree with you, 569 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: it sounds like he will be ready to play, and 570 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: it could be quite the boost for this team if 571 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: not only Kyler Murray returned to the field, but his 572 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: college bestie Hollywood Brown, who's missed five games with a 573 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: foot injury, who was designated to return off ir last week, 574 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: whoever to not play Monday night in Mexico City against 575 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, if he's trending in the right 576 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: direction to be able to play, to have him out 577 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: there with Kyler Murray, somebody who he trusts very well, 578 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: not only off the field, and you can sense that chemistry, 579 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: but looking at the numbers and how much he was 580 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: being targeted. Hollywood and Hop have not played a game together. 581 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: When I talked to Hop last week on the sideline 582 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: exchange and I asked the type of damage they could do, 583 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: he said he has no doubt. He's seen the damage 584 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: they can do in practice together, so he's no doubt 585 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: they can pull it off in a game as well. 586 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: So if you're able to get not only Kyler Murray, 587 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: but Hollywood brown Back as well. Huge for this offense 588 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: as long as Kyler has the time, in other words, 589 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: the protection to get the ball to his wide receivers, 590 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: because once again it's going to be a banged up 591 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: offensive line. You're gonna have perhaps the same offensive line 592 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: you've had the past two weeks. Against the Rams, it 593 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: was very solid. Against the forty nine Ers, it was not, 594 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: but you're talking about two different defenses, but being able 595 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: to keep the pocket somewhat clean for Kyler Murray to 596 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: throw to either d Hop or Hollywood. Not only that, 597 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: you have to be able to block and really start 598 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: and get a run game going. That wasn't there in 599 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: San Francisco. Was there more so with the Rams. However, 600 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: that performance still not incredibly balanced. When you look at 601 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: the offense, that's been a struggle really all year. But 602 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: you can really tell with that offensive line too, there 603 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: just haven't been those gaps. The Cardinals have also been. 604 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: You know, they're playing from behind for most of the 605 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: San Francisco game and that obviously affects it. But there 606 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: hasn't been a pretty significant run game, which I think 607 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: has been hurting this offense as well. So what, of 608 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: course you need that blocking and the timing for Kyler Murray, 609 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: and for you know, his receivers get open. They have 610 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: to be able to run the ball and not be 611 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: one dimensional. So good news for Kyler Murray, good news 612 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: for the Arizona Cardinals, good news for everyone that Kyler 613 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: again expected to be back at least that's what everyone. 614 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: That's the vibe that I got on Wednesday heading into 615 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: this week's game against the Chargers. Anything else in episode 616 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: three that stood out to you, Danny, I don't necessarily care, 617 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: but if we're keeping score, I was in the background 618 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: of a shot at the game of Mexico study pregame. 619 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: I missed. Now now our boss Tim Delaney, he wasn't there, 620 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: made an appearance. His voice made me but I'm sorry. 621 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: I wow. I was just that much in the background. 622 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: It was pregame. Kyler was taking picture of signing autograph. 623 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: I believe um he plays soccer professionally, a soccer player. 624 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: Do you remember that scene? But I was in the 625 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: background talking to one of the trainers. Oh funny, how 626 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: that happens. Do you remember the scene but you don't 627 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: remember me in it? I remember your voice was in it. Craig, 628 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: don't worry. I recognize your voice. Well, I don't care. 629 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: I'm not like. That's fine if Paul's voices in and 630 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,239 Speaker 1: I just don't want your voice in it anymore. If 631 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: we're keeping score, I'm behind. Wow, Okay, voice a little strained, 632 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: doing a little bit better here on this Wednesday. We'll 633 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: see how it works. A little adversity for you. I 634 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: gotta take advantage adversity. But we persevere. We keep going. 635 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: As a general manager told the team, it's the mantra, 636 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: we keep going, Danny, That's what I'm doing. You did, 637 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: you kept going, You pushed it through for a pregame radio. 638 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: Very appreciative of that. So good job. It was not 639 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: looking good over the weekend. Let's just say that. But 640 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're back. Excellent time in Mexico City. Yeah, 641 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 1: it was a lot of fun, very very cool experience 642 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: to go out and get to be a part of 643 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: that international game and be a Mexico City, be at 644 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: a studiostech. It was. It was a very very cool experience. Well, 645 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,879 Speaker 1: good glad you had fun. Glad you made it back, 646 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: just did not come back with a W. So now 647 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: your task this week is come back from State Farm 648 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: stadium after a win against the Chargers, I will do 649 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: my best. As we've established, it is much more fun 650 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: to watch these episodes of hard Knocks in season after 651 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: a win. Yeah, So hopefully they do get that win 652 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: and this is this is the big game also for 653 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: the Chargers at five and five, So both teams are 654 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,399 Speaker 1: coming in with things to play for at this point 655 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,280 Speaker 1: in the season. So should be a good one, especially 656 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: if Kyler Murray is able to play and you get 657 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: to see that quarterback battle too young quarterbacks him and 658 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. It'll be fun one who is the more 659 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 1: desperate team who plays with more desperation on Sunday, Because 660 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: you're right, these two teams both need a w the Cardinals. 661 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 1: I know the Chargers are a few games back from 662 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. I believe they're still in second place in 663 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: their division. I also don't think they're as banged up. 664 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: But I know that these two teams, at least when 665 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: you look at the numbers statistically, don't have very difficult 666 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: schedules ahead of them from the teams they're playing. But 667 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: I would think the Cardinals from a mental side of 668 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: things and the injuries are overcoming the type of loss 669 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: they're coming off of. That's my final answer. We'll see 670 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: two oh five on Sunday, and then of course all 671 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: will be documented on episode four of Hard Knocks in 672 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: season Craig, I have to ask you a very important question. 673 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: How do you feel about Green being cast role? I 674 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,720 Speaker 1: was wondering if this was going to come up because 675 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: as an avid listener to Cardinals Underground, and we've had 676 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: this discussion to believe a year ago at this time, 677 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: and I don't think I've really had great Green being 678 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: cast role. Yeah. I can't be like Soupy. I can't 679 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: really answer that question. But if you're asking me, like 680 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: as far as what sides, if I'm gonna go to first, 681 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna be stuffing, It's gonna be macaroni and cheese 682 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: and then mashed potatoes, I would go no, I'm okay, 683 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: but you can have those. Yeah. People have mashed potatoes 684 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: all the time. Okay, people I mac and cheese all 685 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, but it's that's good, especially when it's homemade. 686 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: I like this stuffing. Turkey to me is okay. I 687 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: don't love turkey now if it's like smoke, but like 688 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, turkey is like okay for me. But 689 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: I like green castrole, mac and cheese, mashed potatoes, the stuffing. 690 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: I'm not a big pie person, like I won't do 691 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: pumpkin pie. The texture, I can't do it. If anything 692 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: would be apple, but maybe more like an apple crisp. 693 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 1: Not a big jello person. I'd learned that pak how 694 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,280 Speaker 1: feec goes crazy for like a rainbow jello he called, 695 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 1: or whatever it was, all the different flavors. Don't like 696 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: cranberry sauce right there with you. Corn's pretty good. Cream 697 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 1: corn I'm okay with yeah. I like the sweet potato 698 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: corn bread, like the sweet potatoes, like the marshmallows on 699 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: there you go. I'm getting real hungry, crack. Yeah. Feel 700 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: free to bring some leftovers in on Friday, Danny, Okay, 701 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 1: if there's any left, there you go. If there's any left. 702 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: We'll end it here with this Happy Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving, 703 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: and everyone out there as well, enjoy your holiday and 704 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: of course looking forward to a win on Sunday. And 705 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: on that note, we will put a lid on this 706 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals Cover two presented by Hunday, proud partner 707 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our 708 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,439 Speaker 1: executive producer Jim mom mondro Any Surrek. I'm Craig Rayel Loup. 709 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time here on Cardinals covered 710 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: two h