1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: You know, Bucks, some days there ain't a lot of topics, 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,079 Speaker 1: not a lot of news going on. Today we have 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: gotten so much to dive into. Whoopie Goldberg suspended over 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: her inaccuracies. Let's say, as it pertains to the Nazi 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: era in Germany. The White House is demanding that Joe 8 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: Rogan be regulated. Jeff Zucker at CNN is out over 9 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: an undisclosed relationship. This is a big deal. Three hundred 10 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: thousand jobs were lost in January of twenty twenty two. 11 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: That compares to an expectation that two hundred thousand jobs 12 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: would be added. The bidas touch continues to fall apart. 13 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: Army soldiers who refuse a COVID vaccine that we know 14 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: does not work against omicron will be immediately discharged. But Buck, 15 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: the story that is ricocheting everywhere, and he's doing his 16 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: media roundtables right now, CBS, NBC, ESPN, basically every direction 17 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: you look. Former Miami Dolphins head coach Brian Flores has 18 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: sued the NFL, alleging racial discrimination in coaching and I 19 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: know you are not a monster NFL fan, far from it, Buck, 20 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: but you also I mean, this story has ricocheted through 21 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: so much of the media establishment that it's almost impossible 22 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: to ignore. I went on Fox and Friends this morning 23 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: and talked about it from a legal perspective. But I 24 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: want to start with this, Buck, even you are like, wow, 25 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: this is kind of a big story. Yeah, of course, Well, 26 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: because it comes Clay at a time where there's already 27 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: this huge national conversation because of Biden explicitly declared and 28 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: as you have rightly pointed out, that over ninety five 29 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: percent of lawyers or people from the legal profession will 30 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: not even be thought of as a possible Supreme Court pick. 31 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: And we also have the case making its way through 32 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, and I believe we are going to 33 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: get a decision here in June that will say affirmative action. 34 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: I mean, this is plain letter of the law stuff. 35 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: Affirmative action is not equal protection under the law. It 36 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: should be and is unconstitutional. That there was a time 37 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: because of whether it's you liberal, white guilt or whatever, 38 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: the rationalization was that people preferred a certain policy outcome 39 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: of affirmative action does not make it constitutional flatly, plainly, clearly. 40 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: So with all of that background now we have, and 41 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: I thought it was fascinating Clay, because I was learning. 42 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: You know, this is the great thing is when I 43 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: have a sports thing that comes into the realm of 44 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: just breaking news, you know, top five stories. Let's say 45 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: I'm like Clay explain and it's like encyclopedia. Clay goes 46 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 1: to work and then I feel like I know what's 47 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: going on. One of the things is remarkable is this 48 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: guy saying these things that we were hearing him say 49 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: after he had already been paid, after you know, multimillion 50 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: dollar contracts to be a head coach, right after he 51 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: had already done all this tremendously rarefied and highly successful 52 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: stuff in the NFL. Now he's saying that he's being 53 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: discriminated against, and in fact, he always feels like he 54 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: has to be better than his better than his counterparts 55 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: based on where does this come from? So the complaint 56 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: is a mess, and this is me analyzing it from 57 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: a legal perspective. He alleges that he is being racially 58 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: discriminated against. Now, background for Brian Flores at the age 59 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: of thirty eight years old, after having the job title 60 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: of linebackers coach for the New England Patriots and Bill Belichick, 61 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: who is roundly considered the greatest NFL coach of all time. 62 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: If you work for Bill Belichick, you have a very 63 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: good chance of getting a head coach job somewhere. That 64 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: has been the case for many people, white or black. 65 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: So Flores gets hired at the age of thirty eight 66 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: years old to a multimillion dollar head coaching contract with 67 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins. He is there for three years and 68 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: he just got fired in the offseason. That surprised some people, 69 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: but there was a lot of behind the scenes issues 70 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: evidently inside of Miami, both with player and coach relationships 71 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: that the head, the owner there, Stephen Ross of the Dolphins, 72 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: a billionaire, decided to move on and hire a new coach. 73 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: Then Brian Flores is interviewing. There are right now five 74 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: open head coaching jobs in the NFL. Lots of guys 75 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: got fired, and he is interviewing for the New York Giants, 76 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: and Brian day Ball is hired, who is the offensive 77 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: coordinator at the Buffalo Bills. And there is an allegation 78 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: that based on a text message from Bill Belichick that 79 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: Brian Flores was not really considered for the job, that 80 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: they already knew who they were going to hire. He 81 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: also says that several years ag he had an interview 82 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: with the Denver Broncos, and he alleges that John Elway, 83 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: who is one of the great quarterbacks in NFL history 84 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: and an executive with the Broncos, was hungover and that 85 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 1: he didn't feel like he was taken very seriously. Based 86 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,799 Speaker 1: on those details, he's arguing that he has been racially 87 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: discriminated against. Now, to me, when I read this complaint, 88 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: and I read the complaint, there's almost no evidence of 89 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: racial discrimination in this entire complaint. That is, I don't 90 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: know about you, Buck. I've gone on interviews before where 91 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: I haven't gotten the job for what I interviewed for, 92 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: and that was disappointing, and sometimes I felt like the 93 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: guy that they ended up hiring they knew that they 94 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: wanted that guy, most likely beforehand. I've been almost everybody 95 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: out there has been in a situation where you've gone 96 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: for a job interview and you have thought, Hey, I'm 97 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: probably not gonna get this, but I want to try 98 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: to prove that I'm worthy of the job. Anyway, there's 99 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: actually a storyline for fans of the show The Office, 100 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: which I do think is a great show for whatever 101 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: that's fantasts out there. There's a storyline where Michael Scott, 102 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: who is played by Steve Correll I think amazingly well, 103 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: goes in for an interview for you know, the dunder 104 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: Mifflin executive role, and later on in deposition, it comes 105 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: out that he was never really under consideration for the job, 106 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: but they wanted to give him the shot. Right, So 107 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 1: this is this is not a new thing in corporate 108 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: America where you go in for an interview and they 109 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: think they already have somebody else picked. And let me 110 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: just say, unless there is actually I mean to your 111 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: point about the legalities of this and the reality of 112 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: it contractually and otherwise, and lest they less they've already 113 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: made an offer. Even if they think they know who 114 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: they're going to pick, the willingness to give you an 115 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: interview always leaves open the possibility that minds will be changed. 116 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: So there's also an assumption built into all of this 117 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: that it couldn't even if they had or maybe they 118 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: could make an offer and even rescinded if they found 119 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: a better candidate based upon you know, whatever the contractual 120 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: agreement is they put forward initially. So we've all been. 121 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: I mean we've all been. And by the way, in 122 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: the media world, everything that we deal with Clay at 123 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: some level is unfair, meaning that there's a lot of subjectivity. 124 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: There's a lot of who's going to be this, who's 125 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: going to be the next big that, And you just 126 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: learn to do the best you can and deal with it. 127 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: You don't turn around and always just claim that there 128 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: is some force a raid against you, especially if you've 129 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: been remarkably successful as this guy, I mean, thirty eight 130 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: years old, multi millionaire head coach the NFL doesn't get 131 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: the job he wants and now the NFL is racist 132 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: based on what and I mean, speaking of what this 133 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: guy's been saying, I mentioned you, he's going around now 134 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: as part of his TV tour. He's all over the 135 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: media saying that he always thinks he has to be 136 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: better than his colleagues to be in the same place. 137 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: Based on what where does that come from? I mean, 138 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: that's also the job of competition. You have to be 139 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: better than your colleagues in the NFL in order to win. 140 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: That's Oh, but he means he has to be better 141 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: just to be on the same playing field. There's other 142 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: essentially saying I for me to be ahead coach, I 143 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: had to be ten times the head coach of other 144 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: head coaches. Is basically the subtext here that's based on 145 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: what yeah, And look, here's the other thing. These are 146 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: important facts, I think too, because we live in a 147 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: I've told you this buck. Nobody is pushing back against 148 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: Brian Flores on any of these interviews, right, every single 149 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: sports media person presumes that he is the victim of 150 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: racial discrimination, and no one is actually saying, Okay, Brian Flores, 151 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: if you're so discriminated against, how did you get a 152 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: head coaching job at the age of thirty eight and 153 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: become a multimillionaire. And also, by the way, how is 154 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: it that you were poised to get another head coaching 155 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: job you just didn't get the one that you wanted 156 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: with the Giants. And that's also there is no business 157 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 1: buck in the history of the world that has created 158 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: more black millionaires than the NFL. Truly, in the history 159 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: of the world. Seventy some odd percent of all NFL 160 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: players are black. And really, what this comes down to 161 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: is an argument that there needs to be more black coaches. 162 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: It's very similar to the Supreme Court, honestly, where you 163 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: almost get the sense that there is an idea that 164 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: there needs to be a quota. But what's fascinating about 165 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: this to me is, first of all, everybody in America 166 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: should be able to compete evenly to be an NFL 167 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: head coach. Right, white, Black, Asian, Hispanic. That's what I believe. 168 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: The Black population is around twelve percent of the overall population, 169 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: so they are widely, wildly overrepresented as NFL players. But 170 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: most coaches start at the age of twenty two or 171 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: twenty three and work themselves up for decades to be 172 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: eligible to become a head coach. Well, so to me, 173 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: the overall head coaches in the NFL should roughly approximate 174 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: not what the player percentage is, because most players never 175 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: become coaches, but what the overall population of interested coaches 176 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: are in the United States. And let's remember, I mean 177 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: the NFL is said professional sports is one of the 178 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: few places where you have a meritocracy and real time 179 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 1: with real consequences. Yeah, I mean, I do know enough 180 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: about them. I grew up watching the Knicks, and I'm 181 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: my family or Giants fans, and so I've played. I've 182 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: spent way too much time in my mind watching professional sports, 183 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: but I've seen enough to know what goes on, and 184 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: I'm aware of the size the contracts. Clay, when when 185 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: you're paying somebody, you know, I mean I just saw, 186 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 1: like Naymar the soccer players signed a two hundred million 187 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: dollar Contrasts, Okay, when you're paying somebody in the NFL. 188 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: I mean that's soccer, granted, but that's uh, there're one 189 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: hundred million dollar guys in the NFL. Exactly. When you're 190 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: paying someone one hundred million dollars, you just want the best. 191 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: You're doing everything you can to get the absolute best. 192 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: And so when you're trying to assess, and there's always 193 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: going to be some degree of subjectivity. That's what I 194 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: meant about the media aspect, right, Like we have tons 195 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: of super talented colleagues and media on TV and radio 196 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: and podcasts whatever, and you know, it's not a perfect business, 197 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: but you have to be good. But there are going 198 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: to be some decisions made. In the NFL, they're putting 199 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: the best players that can possibly get out on the 200 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: field because there's a lot of money in it, and 201 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: there's a lot of money in winning, and there's nobs 202 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: on it. You can tell who's better or not and 203 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: who you know, you see this and it's like, well, 204 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: you know what, what what NFL franchise is having a 205 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: coach come forward that they think would be the best 206 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: fit for them and would make them, you know, millions, 207 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: would affect the price of the franchise, perhaps hundreds of 208 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: millions of dollars over over years, over a decade, and say, yeah, 209 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: but I'm you know, we're just still a little racist, 210 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: so we're not going to hire that guy. It just 211 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: it just defies comprehension, especially given what you see with 212 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: the players in the field, where they're like who's the 213 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: best tight end, who's the best quarterback, who's the best 214 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: wide receiver? And that's all that matters, right, But with coaching, 215 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they're going to take a different approach. 216 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: I don't buy it. You're one hundred percent right there, 217 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: and Buck, Even if some teams were doing that, then 218 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: by being not racist, you would gain a competitive advantage. 219 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: Right if there are teams out there that are taking 220 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 1: talented minority coaches off the board because of racism, Okay, 221 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: I don't believe that's happening, But if it were happening, 222 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: then you would have a competitive advantage against them, because 223 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: you would be able to hire those coaches and your 224 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: team would win more. 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The truckers across America or 259 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: listening to this show and also standing for freedom to 260 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: appreciate all of you. You want to call in eight 261 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 1: hundred two two two eight two on those lines. There's 262 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: a new study out of Johns Hopkins University on lockdowns 263 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: and they crunched all the numbers and all the data, 264 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: and guess what they agree with Clay and Buck. We'll 265 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: give you the specifics on how lockdowns are insanity later 266 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: on this hour, and you need to know the numbers. 267 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: And I just want to state this as a mission 268 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: here in my mind and something clan I are going 269 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: to do. It's not enough to have them take their 270 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: hands off the wheel, so to speak. We have to 271 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: explain to the Fauchiites, never again will they be allowed 272 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: to do this madness. It was complete insanity really from 273 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: the start, and all the numbers bear that out. So 274 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: we'll get into that later on. But I we started 275 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: out today, I mean, Clay announced it, and I'll be 276 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: honest with you with I almost said, y'all there, I mean, 277 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: I'm in Florida. I don't know if I'm allowed to 278 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: y'all when I'm in Florida, I need to come here. Well, 279 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: you're in Miami, you're you know the great line about Florida, Buck, 280 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've heard it is the further south you go, 281 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: the further north you go, the more south you get. 282 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: So like where I am in the Panhandle, where it's 283 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: right below southern Alabama, like that's super southern. In the 284 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: Panhandle where you are, it's more east coast. Yeah, it's 285 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: kind of like New York south over here. I got 286 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: to say, so, I'm not sure I can yawl it. 287 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: But the point is, you heard Clay at the top, 288 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: and we mentioned in the last hour a couple of times, 289 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: big shake up in the media landscape, and this is 290 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: kind of thing. Remember we're going into midterm election year. 291 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: You have the warring propaganda machines of Democrat corporate media 292 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: out there that are trying to make sure that people 293 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: believe things that aren't true and telling everybody else about 294 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: their misinformation while they spread the Russia collusion nonsense. Jeff 295 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: Zucker is out at CNN, and I can tell you 296 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: maybe I'll get into some of the specifics about my 297 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: experienced years ago at CNN. Clay, I don't want to 298 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: dive into that before we tell everybody who's happening here. 299 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: He had a relationship with a subordinate, very senior executive, 300 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: but still subordinate because he CNN was Zucker's kingdom. I mean, whatever, 301 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: what people got paid what Zucker wanted them to get paid, 302 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: They got the show Zucker one of them to he was, um, 303 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: I was gonna, could you say the malevolent tyrant instead 304 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: of the benevolent Yeah, the malevolent tyrant of CNN. And 305 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: and now he's gone because he didn't disclose this relationship. 306 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: A couple of things. Claire, just want to throw this 307 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: to you because you know, you also know that there 308 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: could there could be some big lawsuits to come out 309 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: of all this. The subordinate female is staying as he's 310 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: staying on at CNN. He is gone. He resigned effective today. 311 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: Didn't disclose a relationship. What I think so interesting is 312 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: this Chris Cuomo. Chris Cuomo thought that he could get 313 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: away with things that nobody reasonably could have imagined would fly. 314 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: I mean, the helping with his brother, using his pulpit 315 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: to do so, and the scenes comms assistance. I think 316 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: it's because he knew about what was going on with Zucker. 317 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: He felt like he was covered from on high and 318 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: for everyone listening to this. The head of CNN, So 319 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: one of the most powerful lib media executives out there 320 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: is gone because of the investigation into Chris Cuomo, which 321 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: then led to this revelation. What do you make of it? 322 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: So there are a bunch of different angles here, So 323 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: we should say, I mean, this is all public now, 324 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: Alison go Lust as I believe, I mean, I might 325 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: be pronouncing her relationship wrong. She is the woman that 326 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: he was having a relationship with. She is the executive 327 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: VP and chief marketing officer at CNN. So what is 328 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: interesting about this? Buck and I think this adds more 329 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: complexity to the overall situation surrounding Chris Cuomo, but also 330 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: Andrew Cuomo and the way that CNN covered this story. 331 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: Alison go Lust worked with Andrew Cuomo back in the day. 332 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: In fact, she's a veteran PR expert. I'm reading from 333 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: Radar online. She was the communication director for Andrew Cuomo 334 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: and there have this is according to Radar, there were 335 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: many discussions that one reason why Zucker initially helped to 336 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: protect Andrew Cuomo and Chris Cuomo was because in the fact, 337 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: I remember CNN had the bro Cuomos on together during COVID. 338 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: They were allowing Chris Cuomo to cover his brother Andrew. 339 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: They made Andrew a hero. They tried to brand him 340 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: as the anti Trump. Right there are all those Cuomo 341 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: sexual shirts. There was the argument that he was going 342 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: to run for president. Supposedly one of the reasons why 343 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: the Cuomos were protected is because of this woman, Alison 344 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: go Lust And by the way, it also supposedly this 345 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: has been going on their relationship for a long time, 346 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: that they had both of their marriages broke up over 347 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: this affair. So to me, what stands out here is 348 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: the incredible belief by Zucker that when he fired Chris 349 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: Cuomo that somehow this wasn't going to come out, that 350 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: he was going to emerge unscathed. And it seems what 351 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: happened basically is Chris Cuomo said, hey, you owe me 352 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: eight this is my this is me reading what's going 353 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: on here. You're gonna fire me, you better pay me 354 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: out the eighteen million dollars that you owe me under 355 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: my contract. Because they tried to argue, they fired him 356 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: four cause and when that battle, an investigation into why 357 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: he was being fired took place. My bet is Chris 358 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: Cuomo said, Hey, you know you're firing me for inappropriate behavior. 359 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: Do you know that that Zucker has been engaged with 360 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 1: a relationship with a subordinate for a long time? And Buck, 361 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: I find it hard to believe there weren't a lot 362 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: of people inside CNN that didn't know this was going on, 363 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 1: this relationship for a long time. I was before CNN 364 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: went completely insane. If ten is the craziest olive can be, 365 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: before CNN went to eleven, it was probably solidly at 366 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: a at an eight, i'd say, pre Trump era. And 367 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: I worked over there for a couple of years, and 368 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: you used to do CNN until you're I ban Yes, 369 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: which's great, Clay is banned from the Republic of CNN 370 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: istan Um. But anyway, he the the reality here was 371 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: that everyone knew that there was stuff going on in 372 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: that building for years that the media just wasn't as 373 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: interested in talking about didn't come out. I was surprised 374 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: that some of it took as long as it did 375 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: to come out. And I think I'll tell you this 376 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 1: right now, and of course can't name names because but 377 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: there's more stuff that will likely come out about CNN 378 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: and the practices in that building um, but what I what? 379 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: I what the question I have here? Because I very 380 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: much see the the Cuomo thing, And isn't it fascinating 381 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: that Governor Andrew Cuomo the hero of the pandemic for 382 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: the Libs, second only to Fauci and in the entire nation. 383 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: You know, Gavin Newsom was having an Emmy. He was 384 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: given a special Emmy. Yeah, and he had to send 385 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: it because you know, he was the man during the 386 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: during that he was doing us. You know here I am. 387 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 1: I want to talk today about the numbers. Let's look 388 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: at the numbers. The numbers say that I am the best? 389 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: Why am I the best? Because you know, this was 390 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: what Cuomo was doing day in and day out. I 391 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: know it's pretty good, thank you. And he would do 392 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: this whole thing and the song and dance and everybody say, 393 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, he's such a great leader. And then 394 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: it all started to fall apart. He lied about the numbers, 395 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: He hid the number of the deaths by the death numbers, 396 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: lied about that in nursing homes, lied about what was 397 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: happening in the state, covered it up, and then the 398 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: stuff about the sexual harassment, and then all of a sudden, 399 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: his brother was covering up for him, and then the 400 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: brother had, you know, had the issue of harassment that 401 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: came up to and then he got terminated for helping 402 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: his brother deal with his harassment. And now Jeff Zucker 403 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: is gone. I think in part because you know, or 404 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: rather I think that this came out because of what 405 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: happened with the Quoma brothers. So the domino's falling here 406 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: for the left wing media is remarkable. But here's the 407 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: question I have for you, Clay. Disclosing a relationship with 408 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: a subordinate is a this is one of these things, 409 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: you know, the way they're framing this, clearly this was 410 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: going on for years, clearly when both were probably still married. 411 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: Which this is, by the way, family's breaking up. It's 412 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: a sad thing. It always is a sad thing. So 413 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: whenever this happens, I never I never celebrate or you know, 414 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: say yeah, look at this guy his life or you know, 415 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: this woman in their life is you know, in tatters. 416 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: I want all families staying together, But why not disclose this? Right? 417 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: There must be there must be something that we don't 418 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: know about the situation. And I think there are things 419 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: we haven't heard yet that are actually worse because this 420 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: is a very sudden resignation from a guy who's i 421 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: mean making probably fifteen million, twenty million dollars a year 422 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: to run CNN. I mean, who's who is a more 423 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: powerful news executive on the left than than he was. 424 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,719 Speaker 1: I mean, it's tough to come name there is well. 425 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: And also he was running sports, so I mean Jeff 426 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: Zucker was massively powerful, and so to me, I think 427 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: you're right. When these is the resignation letters pop out 428 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: of nowhere, it usually means there's a big investigative piece 429 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 1: coming within a day or two somewhere down the line, right, 430 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: and they know that that media source has got the 431 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: goods on them and that they're going to be sharing it. 432 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: My first thought is when you failure to disclose a relationship. 433 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: Let me just say this, if that relationship had just 434 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: started six months ago, they wouldn't be firing him over 435 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: failing to disclose that relationship. I think what's likely come 436 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: into play here is he probably hired her while already 437 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: being in a relationship with her, which is a big 438 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: no no, right if you are twenty years yeah, right, 439 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: But he brought her from the Cuomo office to come 440 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: work at CNN. A few years ago, and so I 441 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: think they're probably going to be some details coming out 442 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: about what he did or did not reveal. I also 443 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: believe the big question here, Buck, and I'll actually when 444 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: we come back, I'm curious what you would do. Let's 445 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: presume that CNN suddenly came to Buck Sexton and they said, Buck, 446 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: you were on air, and we went back and we 447 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: looked at all the data and we determined that yes, 448 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: we weren't yet fully crazy yet when you were on 449 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: the air, and we value your opinion for what to 450 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: do at this network. What should we do to I mean, 451 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: this is a crazy stat. Buck, Tucker, Carlson and Sean 452 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: Hannity have more Democratic viewers in the evening on their 453 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: show than CNN or MSNBC. Do they have lost all 454 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: of their audience? What did they do to matter again? 455 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: Other than is a pathetic punching bag for left wing lunacy. 456 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: They would have to actually try to be a new network, 457 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: and not a perfect one. They're still going to be liberal, 458 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: but this is what they used to be. It used 459 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: to be a liberal news network. Then it turned into 460 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: Pravda for the d n C. I mean, it just 461 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,959 Speaker 1: it just went completely anti Trump, ferociously insane. That's what happened. 462 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: Could they bring it back to I mean, I I 463 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 1: always say this, I have more respect for MSNBC as 464 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: insane as the commy opinions over there are. They admit 465 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: that their commies, I mean, they don't use that term, 466 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 1: but they admit that they're left they're liberals, they're Democrats. 467 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: So there's not this pretense. CNN lives in fantasyland and 468 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: the anchors over there live in fantasy land on this issue. 469 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: And that's why they would never debate it publicly because 470 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: it looks so stupid. But they you know, they like 471 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: the pretense they pretend. Can I tell you my quick 472 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: Fund Jeff Zucker story though, before you go to the break, 473 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: say that's what I want to hear it. I've got 474 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: to everybody else. 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I want Dub to be entertained. 518 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: All right, you can go find net iTunes and go 519 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: find it. Clay and Buck we bring in now. I 520 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: believe ned Ryan, who has been on the absolute front 521 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: lines of everything that's been going on in Loudon County 522 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: and also on the front lines of helping to ensure 523 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: that Glenn Yunkin sent shockwaves throughout the American political establishment 524 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: by winning the governatorial race in the state of Virginia 525 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: and then coming in and actually doing what he said 526 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: he was going to do, including removing the mask mandate 527 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: in Virginia schools. And now there are rebellions against the 528 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: idea that you should be able to choose whether or 529 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: not you wear a mask. Ned. What's the latest on 530 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: the ground there in Loudon County as it pertains to 531 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: the mask debate. Well, it's pretty interesting today, Clay, because 532 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: the last two days were teacher conferences and grading. On Friday, 533 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: the students, my children included, who did not wear masks, 534 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: were given a letter saying, if you show up on 535 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: Wednesday today without a mask as we will suspend you. So, 536 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: you know, we had conversations. All four of our kids 537 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: are in are in the school system here in Loddon 538 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: County and the two older boys, one's a sophomore in 539 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: high school and the other ones in seventh grade. We've 540 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: talked through the implications and said we're behind you all 541 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: the way. What do you choose to do? And they said, 542 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: we want to show up maskliss on Wednesday, and I said, 543 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: I will walk you in and we will have that 544 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: conversation with the powers that be about you know, what's 545 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: taking place. So as of today, both of the older 546 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: boys you know, are suspended from the Lotton County Public 547 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,959 Speaker 1: School system for refusing to wear a mask and actually 548 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: complying with Young Ken's executive order. You know, it's pretty interesting, Clay. 549 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: I took my seventh grader in and we sat with 550 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: the principle and he read the suspension letter and about 551 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: halfway through and it's all about defiance and willful disobedience 552 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: and all this, and I said, if you could hold 553 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: on for just a second, And I looked at my 554 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: seventh grader and said, you know, James, principal, defiance in 555 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: the face of arbitrary rules that are not back that 556 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: by science or data our facts is always the right 557 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: thing to do. And I have you back in this 558 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: entire situation, and I believe what you're doing as principled. 559 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: And I looked at the principle and said, you maybe 560 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: you may continue. So you know, right now, it really 561 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: the amazing part, Clay, is it feels like very random, 562 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, with our schools out here in western Loudon. 563 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: They're saying it's a day to day suspension. If they 564 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: choose to show up with a mask tomorrow, the suspension 565 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: will be lifted. But in certain places like Stonebridge High School, 566 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: which most people will probably not identify except for those 567 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: that have been following the you know, the whole story 568 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: of the rape that took place. This is the exact 569 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: same high school. You know, a student was not suspended 570 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: for raping another student, and they're handing out ten day 571 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: suspensions today for not wearing a mask. Wait, Ned, Ned, 572 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,479 Speaker 1: it's buck. I mean, my blood is boiling here. I 573 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: know everyone across the country joins the same way. They're 574 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: here this, I mean, just so we're all very clear, 575 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: the governor has said the executive order you do not 576 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: have to wear ass correct optional? Right? The executive order 577 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: said they are. We're lifting the mask mandates. They are 578 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: now optional. But so, Ned, I mean, is there any 579 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: just so we're all clear, is there any when you're 580 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: sitting there with this principle? I mean, what he's doing 581 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: is effectively in defiance of state law and state authority. 582 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: So what is their argument? I don't understand. It feels 583 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: like they're just engaged in some kind of you know, 584 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: pro fauci nullification of the law or something. What is this? 585 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: What they are what they are saying is their defense 586 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: is that obviously the previous governor, in the previous House 587 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: of Delegates that was controlled by the Democrats, they passed 588 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: a piece of legislation saying, virgin you will follow CDC 589 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: guidelines regarding mass mandates. So, by the way, the CDC 590 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: has come out recently and said basically, paper and cloth 591 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: mass are worthless. So there is no real justification for it, 592 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: and it really is. They're they're other school districts, but 593 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: Fairfax and Loudon, which are two of the big northern counties, 594 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: have said and we're going to fight this. We will 595 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: implement mask mandates. And so people understand. Jason Arres, the 596 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: newly elected Attorney General, is arguing this case today in 597 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: front of the Virginia Supreme Court. So we're very all 598 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: of us are very curious to see how that turns out. 599 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: I don't think there'll be a decision today, but I 600 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: hope that within a couple of days that we'll get 601 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: a decision that will be you know, on the right 602 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: side from the Supreme Court. First of all, I commend 603 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: you and your kids. I mean, we're making I just, 604 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: I just, I am so when you were telling us 605 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: this story, I'm just sitting here and you know this, Ned, 606 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: there's so much discussion from the left wingers about being 607 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: on the right side of history, right, They're always trying 608 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: to lecture people. When I sit and look at this, 609 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: and look, I've got a history degree, I am like Buck, 610 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: and I bet you as well, Ned, a student of 611 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: American He just wrote a history book, actually a great 612 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: one about Bunker Hill. Yes, that's right. We talked about 613 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: that the first time I think we had you on. 614 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: I remember asking about that. So I have zero doubt 615 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: that the people who are going to be on the 616 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: right side of this issue are people like your kid 617 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: and your kids twenty years from now, because you know 618 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: what that sounds like when you have that principle reading 619 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: that letter explaining his suspension. It sounds to me like 620 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: principles who would have not allowed minority kids into their 621 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: schools and argued that they were doing the right thing. 622 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: And then twenty and thirty years ago, I know Joe 623 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: Biden is trying to make this George Wallace argument right now, 624 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: there are principles and school leaders who are effectively standing 625 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: on the schoolhouse steps and disallowing kids to enter based 626 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: on the flawed reading of the currently existing law. But 627 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:55,239 Speaker 1: also there's no justification for mask mandate in schools. They 628 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: have no scientific ability. So not only is your son 629 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: or your sons on the right side for purposes of freedom, 630 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: they're on the right side for purposes of science as well, right, 631 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: which is an incredible accomplishment for a young kid to 632 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: be willing to recognize and stand up when there are 633 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: consequences for him taking those actions. Yeah. No, And I 634 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: pulled them on the way home because I walked them 635 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: both in one of the middle school, obviously one of 636 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 1: the high school. We went through the process, got him 637 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,839 Speaker 1: in the car, you know, drove him home and said, 638 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: you know, guys, you probably some of this probably is 639 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: not going to make sense to you, but allow me 640 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 1: just a few minutes to talk to you. You know, 641 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,280 Speaker 1: we were founded. This nation was founded upon the idea 642 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: of natural higher law, in which in some ways we 643 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 1: have a moral obligation to reject arbitrary rules. I mean, 644 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: that would really is if you were to summarize the 645 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: American Revolution, that was the basis for it, in which 646 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: founders that were not going to follow and comply and 647 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: submit to these arbitrary rules. And I said, you know this. 648 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: You know some people say this is just about a mask, 649 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,280 Speaker 1: but it's about something much bigger in which you actually 650 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 1: have to stand up and say no, this is wrong. 651 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: And again, like you, like you said Clay, that there 652 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: is no science sientific backing for any of this, based 653 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: off all the studies we now have that show that 654 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: the masks are virtually and worthless ineffective. And the other 655 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: thing that's deeply offending to me in all of this 656 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: is really kind of the bullying and intimidation in which 657 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: they literally told her kids. On Friday, my sophomore in 658 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: high school, they gave him a letter and said, looked 659 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: him in the einst if you do not comply, if 660 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: you do not submit, you will be suspended. And he 661 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: took the letter and he came home and said, I'm 662 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: not submitting and I'm not complying. I am showing up 663 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: on Wednesday without a mask. We're all proud, we're all 664 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: proud if we can be, of what your kids are 665 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,760 Speaker 1: doing here, and obviously you standing behind them, we're speaking 666 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: of Ned Ryan, who was the founder of American Majority 667 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: and his book speaking of history is The Adversaries, a 668 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: story of Boston and Bunker Hill, available now in paperback. Ned, 669 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: do you think if you get this this decision, because 670 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: looks as go with Virginia, a lot of other I 671 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: think purple politically purple states may follow. You know, Colorado 672 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,280 Speaker 1: has started to have some breaks because of Jared Polis 673 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: in Fauciism. They're starting to say, look the masks and 674 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: is the lockdowns and all this stuff. They're starting to 675 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 1: wake up the reality slowly but surely. If there is 676 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 1: a decision from the State Supreme Court in Virginia that says, yeah, 677 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: the governor, the new government, the new governor, that the 678 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: people just elected of Virginia can get rid of mandatory 679 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: masking in schools, do you think that the schools will comply? 680 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: Or is loudon just going to engage in outright nullification 681 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 1: of law and say whatever, what are you going to do? 682 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 1: Arrest arrest principles? I mean, how do you think this goes? 683 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: You ask a very good question, book, because right now 684 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: I don't think we have a clear answer, but knowing 685 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: based off past behavior, from the Loudon County School Board. 686 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 1: They're not going to take this sitting down. I think 687 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: they will fight tooth and nail to resist anything from 688 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,720 Speaker 1: Glenn Yunkin. They will do their best to try and resist. 689 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: You know, we'll we'll see. I mean, is this a 690 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,720 Speaker 1: young kid, by the way, Is this just a spite 691 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: against Junkin thing from Democrats in the public school which, 692 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: as we know is like the heart of the commie 693 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 1: power center in a lot of states. Is the whole 694 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,879 Speaker 1: public teachers union, public school unions and all the rest 695 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,959 Speaker 1: of it. Is it mostly that or are you coming 696 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: across I mean, you're a loud County parent. Are their 697 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: parents who just I don't know, can't read what's in 698 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: the news and figure out that masks don't actually work? 699 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: I mean, are they truly terrified what's going on? I 700 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 1: think if it makes of both honestly, buck, I think 701 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 1: there's not an insignificant percentage of parents and teachers who 702 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 1: quite frankly, do not think for themselves or accepting blindly 703 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 1: you know what I consider old outdated information and that 704 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: somehow mass work that they had any effect against the virus. 705 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 1: So I think there is absolutely a part of that, 706 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 1: and I also do think that they are fighting. I 707 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: think they deeply resent the fact that Young can one. 708 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 1: They're going to fight this as hard as they can 709 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 1: whatever means and resources that they have. They were even so, 710 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: you know, the principle of Loudon Valley High School, the 711 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: county sheriff in Loudon County made it very clear that 712 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 1: the SROs in all the various schools were not to 713 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: enforce in any way removing parents or students from school 714 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: grounds for not wearing a mask. This principle, Sue Ross 715 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 1: went out of her way to call the local perciville 716 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 1: police department to see if they would enforce it, and 717 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 1: they informed her, no, we're not enforcing that either. These 718 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: people are truly demented and out of control. Trying to 719 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 1: call the police to say will you back up? Are 720 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,760 Speaker 1: trying to enforce suspension over mass and the police department, 721 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: both in the city and the county level, said absolutely not. 722 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: You're on your own. Ned. Sometimes elections can lower the 723 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: overall temperature of a body politic. Yeah, that's I think 724 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: you could probably tell where I'm going. And so Glenn 725 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: Young can obviously wins election in Virginia. Attorney General maias, 726 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 1: as you said, doing really good work and win some seers, 727 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,439 Speaker 1: they sweep, take back the House of Delegates. All that happens. Yep. 728 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: Do you see going forward now that people are going 729 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,359 Speaker 1: to be just as energy in Virginia for the mid 730 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: terms as they were for the governor's election in those 731 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: other races? Oh? I think so. I mean you have 732 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,399 Speaker 1: to understand Virginia ten basically as Loudon County with Prince 733 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 1: William and other parts, but it's essentially Lyadon County. Virginia ten, 734 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: I think is now one of the toss up potential 735 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,399 Speaker 1: take up for Republicans purely off this school board issue. Yeah. 736 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 1: So I've made it very clear to people that the 737 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 1: school board issue is not going away. School boards have 738 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: made it very clear. They voted eight to one to 739 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 1: continue these mass mandates the Lydon County school Board did. 740 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: I think that this will continue to be an issue 741 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: throughout the country through various school districts, and I think 742 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 1: they will have implications obviously not only at the school 743 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 1: board level, but at the congressional level as well, Because 744 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 1: again I will remind people, it's not just me, it's 745 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 1: not just the conservative Republicans. Saying this is idiotic. It 746 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 1: has to stop. It's democrats, it's independence, it's all parents 747 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: of all stripes saying this has to stop. We did 748 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,240 Speaker 1: not sign up for this. You can't stop teaching advanced courses, 749 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 1: you can't indoctrinate, or what about just teaching our kids 750 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: the basics to give them the best opportunities in life. 751 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:08,760 Speaker 1: And so this is this parents' movement crosses all party lines, 752 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 1: all party affiliations, and I think when they see these 753 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 1: school boards saying basically shut up and sit down, you 754 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 1: dirty little peasants, I think a lot of parents are saying, no, 755 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: we're not going to We're done, and we're going to 756 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: hopefully run a lot of them out of office this year, 757 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 1: Ned man, we always appreciate you, our friend, Ned and 758 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: Ryan coming on here telling us what's going on. 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Blake, appreciate you joining the Clay and 793 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 1: Buck Show. How is the campaign going. What are you 794 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 1: seeing on the ground from voters in Arizona. Well, thank you, Buck, 795 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 1: It's it's going well. People are fired up. You know, 796 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,360 Speaker 1: it is an election year now. I saw the shift 797 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 1: in energy as we crossed from twenty twenty one to 798 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. You know, my campaign's up into the right. 799 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: I'm beating my opponents in fundraising and getting out there 800 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 1: and being bold in the media, and I think we're 801 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: going to crush it this year. You know, Blake. The 802 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 1: jobs numbers have come out and they are, to put it, 803 00:42:53,520 --> 00:43:00,319 Speaker 1: mildly not good right now for the Biden regime. Comps. 804 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,359 Speaker 1: This is a CNBC headline from earlier today. Companies unexpectedly 805 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:07,839 Speaker 1: cut three hundred and one thousand jobs in January. Now 806 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 1: that the Biden talking point on this continues to be 807 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: they had more job creation they call it, in twenty 808 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 1: twenty one than at any time I think in the 809 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 1: post World War two era something crazy like that. What 810 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 1: they mean is they're counting jobs that came back online 811 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 1: because of shutdowns before it. So really it's just the 812 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,359 Speaker 1: end of shutdowns means there's jobs that people weren't allowed 813 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,919 Speaker 1: to do in restaurants, etc. What do you see really 814 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 1: happening right now the economy, because it feels like the 815 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 1: Biden team is running out of talking points. Yeah, and 816 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 1: that just shows you how desperate they are to cling 817 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: to anything that they could call success because they know 818 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,840 Speaker 1: it's not going well. We feel it, we see it 819 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 1: every day. It's not going well. You know, Biden at 820 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,879 Speaker 1: this point is making Jimmy Carter look like JFK. And 821 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:57,359 Speaker 1: unfortunately for the country, you know, he doesn't know how 822 00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,879 Speaker 1: to manage anything. And I think we're you know, we're 823 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 1: nominally inflation right now. They say it's six or seven percent. 824 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,720 Speaker 1: I actually think it's double digits on like the actual 825 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: cost co basket of goods you know, the people stuff, 826 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: the stuff people need to buy every day to live. 827 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 1: And I think it's going to get worse before it 828 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,240 Speaker 1: gets better. It's why we need a change of leadership. 829 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: Biden is just failing. Blake. You obviously have a lot 830 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 1: of experience in the business world working with Teo Capital, 831 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 1: and you just referenced what's going on with inflation. Buck 832 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 1: just hit you with the overall numbers of jobs that 833 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: are continuing to decline. What should be happening in your 834 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 1: mind as a business guy in order to get the 835 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: country back to the employment levels that it was at 836 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,799 Speaker 1: in February and March before we shut down for COVID, Well, 837 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 1: you know, I think we need to stop paying people 838 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: not to work. If you're going to lock down, obviously 839 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 1: you need to support the small businesses that you're forcibly closing. 840 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 1: But we should We probably never should have locked down 841 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 1: in the first place, you know, And right now the 842 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 1: business community is looking for some stability, they're looking for 843 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 1: some future they can be confident in. And when the 844 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 1: government is pursuing all of these reckless spending policies paying 845 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,359 Speaker 1: people not to work, you know, Print four or five 846 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: trillion here and other trillion there pretty soon that's real money. 847 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 1: It adds up, and it creates this inflationary spiral that 848 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 1: I fear we're just in the beginning, so I think 849 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 1: literally reversing everything that Biden is doing, going back to 850 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 1: the President Trump America first economic policies, that would be 851 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 1: a hell of a start. We're speaking the Blake Masters, 852 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 1: CEO of Teel Capital, and he's running for a Senate 853 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,760 Speaker 1: seat in the great state of Arizona. Blake, you also 854 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 1: have been vocal on the issue of specifically illegal immigration 855 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 1: and our wide open southern border. There's been a lot 856 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 1: of stuff that's come out in the last few days. 857 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 1: Of course, the Democrat aligned media is suppressing most of 858 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 1: it because it looks so bad for the Biden White 859 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 1: House right now. They had about one hundred and eighty 860 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,720 Speaker 1: thousand illegal encounters with illegals in the month of December, 861 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 1: for which we just got data. We'll have the Jory 862 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 1: data from DHS in a couple of weeks. And everyone 863 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 1: that I've talked to, and I've been speaking to folks 864 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,840 Speaker 1: from Border Patrol, and I spoke the former chief of 865 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: Customs and Border Patrol yesterday say that they expect that 866 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 1: this year might be even worse. Last year, it's close 867 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 1: to two million illegal crossings. This year they think could 868 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 1: be an even greater degree of a violation of our sovereignty. 869 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,399 Speaker 1: What do you think is going to happen here? And 870 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,240 Speaker 1: what do you think should be done about the pooroust 871 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 1: To put it mildly, really, the open southern border we have, well, 872 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,239 Speaker 1: it really is impeachable. There's no other word for I mean, 873 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 1: it's criminal. Biden has thrown the whole southern border open. 874 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 1: He's basically ceded all of that sovereign US territory to 875 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,719 Speaker 1: the Mexican drug cartels. And it's not just drug cartels, right, 876 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 1: these are professional criminal racketeering organizations. If they're trafficking, yeah, sentinel, 877 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 1: but also weapons, also women and children. And yeah, two 878 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 1: hundred thousand that we know about every month. This is 879 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 1: more than two million people per year over four years 880 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,360 Speaker 1: of Biden and Harris talking about eight or nine million 881 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,280 Speaker 1: illegal immigrants. And that's more people than live in Arizona. 882 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 1: So I don't think it's an exaggeration to say this 883 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,799 Speaker 1: is an invasion. It's outrageous, and he caused it, right. 884 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 1: It wasn't perfect under President Trump, but it was pretty 885 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 1: darned good and all Biden had to do was nothing. Instead, 886 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 1: he just reversed all the policies that we're working. He 887 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,280 Speaker 1: invited millions of people to come here, and surprise, surprise, 888 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,800 Speaker 1: when you invite the world to come into the United States, 889 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 1: they will and we're all paying for it. We're talking 890 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 1: to Blake Master's candidate for the United States Senate in 891 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 1: the state of Arizona. I'm sure you saw this story too, Blake. 892 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,920 Speaker 1: Army soldiers who refuse the COVID vaccine are going to 893 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 1: be immediately discharged from service. That's despite the fact, I'm 894 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 1: sure you've looked at the data the COVID shots do 895 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 1: not stop soldiers from getting omicron and also, these are 896 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 1: for the most part, young and healthy people that are 897 00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:00,160 Speaker 1: being discharged from our services. What should happen in your 898 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:05,719 Speaker 1: mind with that policy? I think again, I think that 899 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 1: policy is just criminal and it's obviously not about health. 900 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 1: You know, the Democrats will say, oh, we want to 901 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,799 Speaker 1: maintain maintain health and wellness in the enlisted rinks. No, 902 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 1: like you just said, COVID doesn't hurt these young, healthy soldiers. 903 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 1: If anything, you know, they shouldn't get the shot. Probably 904 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 1: it's it should be an individual decision, but like, why 905 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 1: would a young and healthy soldier want the COVID shot? 906 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,319 Speaker 1: Probably doesn't make sense for most of them. And so 907 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 1: this to me is about power, right. The Biden administration 908 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:38,439 Speaker 1: is looking for an excuse, some pretext to fire all 909 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,239 Speaker 1: of the people who don't want to go on board 910 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 1: with their agenda, and it's really dangerous for our armed services. 911 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 1: What is the top of the list for you of 912 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 1: what if we have Republicans, If you're part of a 913 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:56,400 Speaker 1: Republican majority Senate starting next year, what's the top priority? 914 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 1: What do you want to get done? Well, we have 915 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:03,280 Speaker 1: to is the southern border. And actually you remember illegal 916 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 1: immigrations illegal. The correct amount of illegal immigration is zero, 917 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 1: you know, but I wouldn't just want to stop there 918 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,400 Speaker 1: because okay, you closed the border, congratulations. What about election integrity? 919 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,439 Speaker 1: You could have a sealed border. But if you don't 920 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,000 Speaker 1: have safe and secure and fair elections, you live in 921 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 1: a Banana republic. 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