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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Tuesday edition of the Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show. Just Me today, mister Buck aka

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Speaker 1: the Buckster, aka the one hundred and three mile per

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Speaker 1: people are saying one hundred three miles an hour. Clay

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Speaker 1: is out this week. He is on a super secret

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Speaker 1: special mission. That is all I'm allowed to say. But

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Speaker 1: he may may be calling in later in the week

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Speaker 1: from undisclosed places abroad to just say hi to everybody,

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Speaker 1: because he will miss all of you.

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Speaker 2: But it is just me here.

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Speaker 1: I have the calm, as they say, and I plan

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Speaker 1: on taking you on a wonderful journey here, a magical

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Speaker 1: journey of all of the news stories of the day

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Speaker 1: you A on the phone lines. Love those talkbacks on

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Speaker 1: the iHeart app as well. Our guests today, Miranda Divine

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Speaker 1: in the second hour, one of my favorite voices in

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Speaker 1: fantastic reporter. More importantly, so she'll talk to us about

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Speaker 1: the New York Post reporting on the would be Trump

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Speaker 1: assassin who almost plunged this country into the worst situation

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Speaker 1: it would have seen since the Civil War. Missed by

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Speaker 1: an inch, a literal inch. I know some of your

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Speaker 1: say it was even less than an inch, but we

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Speaker 1: can say an inch. How is it that not everything

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Speaker 1: about this guy's online life was known? It seems unfathomable.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to Miranda about that. We've also got Eric Trump,

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Speaker 1: son of one of these sons of the president, in

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Speaker 1: the third hour. We're talking about the economy, trade deals,

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Speaker 1: and much more. But I know that there's going to

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Speaker 1: I will certainly speak about what is being called the

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Speaker 1: Epstein Files Transparency Act that is going to be voted

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Speaker 1: I believe I'll be here live with you on the

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Speaker 1: air as we find out where that's going. I think

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Speaker 1: the vote is going to be successful and there will

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Speaker 1: be more documents released relating to the Jeffrey Epstein investigation.

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Speaker 1: To be clear, Donald Trump has said in recent days,

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Speaker 1: including yesterday, that fine, and we want.

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Speaker 2: To release more, release whatever, release, whatever you got.

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Speaker 1: This is cut for and Trump, I think, has just

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Speaker 1: recognized the only way to stop having to talk about

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Speaker 2: Fine, no problem there, play four.

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Speaker 3: It's just a Russia, Russia, Russia hopes as it pertains

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Speaker 3: of the Republicans. Now, I believe that many of the

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Speaker 3: people that some of the people that we mentioned are

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Speaker 3: being looked at very seriously for their relationship to Jeffrey Epstein,

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Speaker 3: But they were with them all the time. I wasn't

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Speaker 3: at all, and we'll see what happens. What I just

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Speaker 3: don't want Epstein to do is detract from the great

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Speaker 3: success of the Republican Party, including the fact that the

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Speaker 3: Democrats are totally blamed for the shutdown. You know, they

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Speaker 1: So very important. At first of all, Trump has obviously

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Speaker 1: how many Trump is going to be eighty soon. I

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Speaker 1: But how many times have you heard him being sick

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Speaker 1: The guy is a dynamo. Everybody around him recognize. I

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Speaker 2: It is true.

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Speaker 1: Whatever one thinks of Trump's policies, I obviously think they're

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Speaker 1: what Trump said there, I think this is very important.

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Speaker 1: And notice he said, as it pertains to Republicans, the

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Speaker 2: He was a.

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Speaker 1: Sex criminal, a human trafficker, you know, an exploiter of

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Speaker 2: Now I just saw you.

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Speaker 1: You had you know Larry Summers, who was the former

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Speaker 1: of these emails have come out. There's nothing, there's nothing

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Speaker 1: the people who have continuous and deep associations with Epstein,

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Speaker 1: So that was happening. We all know that. That's a

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Speaker 1: matter of public record. Oh no, wonders was confusing for me.

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Speaker 1: Larry Summers served under both Bill Clinton, and Barack Obama's administrations.

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Speaker 2: He was what was he? He was Secretary of the Treasury. Yup?

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Speaker 1: Under Clinton, I was right, Deputy Secretary of the Treasury,

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Speaker 2: Point is he's a big, big.

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Speaker 1: Guy in Democrat politics under Democrat administrations. Look at the

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Speaker 1: And I know a lot of you are saying, well,

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Speaker 1: that's not you know that where we're looking for criminality,

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Speaker 1: the evidence of smoking government evidence of criminality, we don't

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Speaker 2: We have to be very careful here too.

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Speaker 1: You know, people they're trying to smear Trump by association,

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Speaker 1: And this is the kind of stuff that could really,

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Speaker 1: This isn't oh, did somebody cheat a little bit.

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Speaker 2: On their taxes. This is this goes to the core.

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Speaker 1: And the reputations and the freedom, meaning they could go

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Speaker 1: to be addressed by anything that are in this release.

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Speaker 1: I obviously haven't seen all the files. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: they'd hide it until now? That's a crazy belief, right

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Speaker 1: that the Democrats would have had full control, full ability

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Speaker 1: rather have little bits and pieces to try to insinuate

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Speaker 1: that Donald Trump did something wrong. And I have a

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Speaker 2: That Donald Trump did nothing wrong.

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Speaker 1: Okay, in fact, you could argue Trump is the good

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Speaker 1: guy because he kicked Epstein out of his club for

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Speaker 2: Did anybody else do it?

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Speaker 1: Was there anybody else who was stepping up and saying,

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Speaker 1: big criminal stuff against him. So that's where I think

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Speaker 1: this home here, this has cut five He's just saying,

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Speaker 1: look the Democrat, Epstein's top connections, Epstein's close associates. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying anyone did anything specifically, or I'm not naming

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Speaker 2: You need proof of these things.

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Speaker 1: But the people who were gross and around him a lot,

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Speaker 2: Play five.

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Speaker 3: We have nothing to do with Fstein. The Democrats too.

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Speaker 3: All of his friends were Democrats. You look at this reduff,

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Speaker 3: and you look at Larry Summers built Lennon, they went

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Speaker 3: all Democrats. All I want is I want for people

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Speaker 3: to recognize a great job that I've done on pricing,

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Speaker 1: I think that's all spot on. I think that's exactly

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Speaker 1: Trump has said release it all, fine, release it all,

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Speaker 1: Of any kind of you know, criminal conspiracy with regard

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Speaker 2: Have been running with that NonStop. They don't have it.

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Speaker 1: I do think it has been an exercise in media

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Speaker 1: something itself is the propaganda tool. They focus so much

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Speaker 1: before as well. Look at all all the top associates

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Speaker 1: a lot of you you know, there's what we can

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Speaker 1: there's what you know, remember Denzel Washington and training Day.

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Speaker 1: There's what you know, and there's what you can prove.

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Speaker 1: against an individual that would destroy them. Notice that's not

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Speaker 1: what Trump is doing. He's saying, listen to the names

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Speaker 1: of these individuals. We know they hung out with him

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Speaker 1: a lot. They're all Democrats, they're all big Democrat donors.

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Speaker 1: They're all very left wing in their politics, or generally

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Speaker 1: no focus on that whatsoever. Bill Clinton spent a lot

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Speaker 2: We know that. Okay, that's a fact. That's it, That's

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Speaker 1: Larry Summers was asking this guy for advice on I believe,

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Speaker 2: So there's so much here, Miranda, I want.

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Speaker 4: No, I have no reason to think that the FBI

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Speaker 4: Did you knock on his door? That's what I'm told

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Speaker 4: Yes, I mean it's very slim. I have to emphasize that.

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Speaker 4: Thomas Crook, he's not shared any furry staff. Wele talked

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Speaker 4: like that. He does share this sort of bizarre image

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Speaker 4: of a very muscle bound, sort of Sylvester Stallone sort

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Speaker 4: they're addressed in their underwear. So that's one. And then

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Speaker 4: other than that, sort of cartoon characters on this platform

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Speaker 1: Right, so he's clearly a sicko. What about the they

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Speaker 1: them pronoun stuff.

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Speaker 4: And he uses they them pronouns on debiant Art. That's

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Speaker 4: that disturbing needs to explored because we've had so many

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Speaker 4: gender school shooters. Tyler Robinson also in that vein his

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Speaker 4: living Lover. So I think it's pertinent, and I don't

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Speaker 4: think it's enough for Cash Ptel say, oh he was

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Speaker 4: alone act to forget about it. I mean, if there's

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Speaker 4: a pattern, we need to know about it. Ron Johnson,

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Speaker 4: It's not just me as a journalist or Tucker Carlson,

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Speaker 4: who also did an episode on this last week the

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Speaker 4: same source. It's also Ron Johnson, the senator whose job

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Speaker 4: is over sight of the FBI, and he has been

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Speaker 4: asking since day one for a whole lot of information,

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Speaker 4: including camera forensics, autopsy, other documents, and getting stonewalled, and

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Speaker 4: even under Trump's FBI he had to Ron Johnson was

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Speaker 4: very angry about the fact that in July, on the

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Speaker 4: one year anniversary of Butler, he had to subpoena Cash

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Speaker 4: you know, we.

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Speaker 1: Will, we will have our team. Let's let's get Ron

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Speaker 1: john he may be listening right now. Let's get Senator

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Speaker 1: Johnson on here, because I want to talk to him

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Speaker 1: about this as well. Because we need to continue to

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Speaker 1: follow this and push for this. Miranda, this is all

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Speaker 1: so important and everyone should go read Miranda's piece at

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Speaker 1: the New York Post. Also her podcast podforst one. Yep,

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Speaker 1: go go check out her podcast before Before We Let

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Speaker 1: You Go. Though I know you've got a whole bunch

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Speaker 1: of hits today, tell me I want to let you

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Speaker 1: act to this. Honestly, you know, Clay and I really

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Speaker 1: appreciate your work, and we appreciate you as a person.

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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden is a jerk. You were always while you

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Speaker 1: reported on him. You would always say, look, he's kind

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Speaker 1: of a sad guy, and like, you know, he might

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Speaker 1: actually and I you always had some when you would

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Speaker 1: talk to us about this on the air, some degree

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Speaker 1: of sympathy for the guy, because I think you're just

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Speaker 1: a nice person. I had to play this because I

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Speaker 1: want you to react. Hunter Biden here said mean things

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Speaker 1: about you and Clay and I are ready to fight him.

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Speaker 1: Play sixteen.

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Speaker 6: There's no ethics in what you know, like someone as

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Speaker 6: horrendously ugly as Miranda divine physically and in terms of

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Speaker 6: her In terms of ethics, it does. I mean she

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Speaker 6: for you know, you know, I mean daily mail and

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Speaker 6: you know, but I mean they're horrors. I mean they're

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Speaker 6: hores for money. And you know she does it because

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Speaker 6: she makes money. And you know, when when she goes

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Speaker 6: to sleep at night, I'm sure she sleeps just fine.

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Speaker 6: You know, I don't know anybody that's going to be

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Speaker 6: mourning her when she's going.

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Speaker 1: I think, well, we appreciate you. Everything you said is

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Speaker 1: a lie and he's a disgusting piece of trash. I

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Speaker 1: just do you feel like, oh man, you were too

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Speaker 1: nice to this guy. He's a horrible human being. He

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Speaker 1: truly is.

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Speaker 4: I still have the same impression of him that I've

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Speaker 4: always had. He's a broken human being, and look he's

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Speaker 4: lashing out. He noticed that in all his podcasts, he

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Speaker 4: never refutes a word I said and what I've written

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Speaker 4: and what I've found, Even though he keeps up the

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Speaker 4: pretense through his lawyer, Abby Loll, that he doesn't know

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Speaker 4: anything about the laptop. It's not his laptop, or maybe

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Speaker 4: it was his laptop, it was stolen, he never refutes

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Speaker 4: any of it. The millions of dollars, the fact that

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Speaker 4: he traded on his father's name, the fact that his

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Speaker 4: father was involved in getting him clients, and then he

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Speaker 4: put him on the speakerphone all that corruption during Joe

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Speaker 4: Biden's vice presidency to enrich his family. He doesn't, he

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Speaker 4: doesn't go into any of that and try and to

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Speaker 4: send himself. He just attacks my appearance and hilariously calls

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Speaker 4: me a whore. So, I mean, you know, it's ridiculous,

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Speaker 4: and I think I just ignore it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, he's he's like he should he

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Speaker 1: should be in prison, as we all know, he should

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Speaker 1: be serving a lengthy federal sentence in prison, but because

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Speaker 1: of Daddy, he's not. But I just, you know, Miranda,

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Speaker 1: right who were you know, they're, oh, he's an addict,

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Speaker 1: and I and I thought that all along. So, you know,

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Speaker 1: I just think he showed everybody what a piece of

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Speaker 1: garbage he is. And I'm just glad that you did

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Speaker 1: the completely accurate and fearless reporting on him that you did,

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Speaker 1: and that people knew the truth about the Bidens in

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Speaker 1: general and the Biden crime family. So and you know,

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Speaker 1: Claire and I are happy to have a word with

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Speaker 1: him outside the bar if we ever see him, you know,

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Speaker 2: Yes, anyway, Miranda, you're the best. You're the best.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh all right, people should go check out

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Speaker 1: Podforce one. Thank you, Miranda. Fine, Look, when you've got

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Speaker 2: thank you for being here.

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Speaker 1: Immigration, big issue, very important, illegal immigration and legal immigration.

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Speaker 1: Actually conversations to be had about all of this right

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Speaker 1: now given the Trump agenda. The border, as he had

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Speaker 1: mentioned just a little while ago with the Saudi crown

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Speaker 1: prints in the Oval Office, border is very secure.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's the most secure.

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Speaker 1: You know, they got a pretty secure border between North

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Speaker 1: It's a very secure border now and compared to what

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Speaker 1: it was, it's a remarkable transformation, and we should never

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Speaker 1: lose sight of the fact that a secure border was

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Speaker 1: always possible, but the Democrats didn't want it, and in

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Speaker 1: fact chose to make it insecure, wide open. In fact,

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Speaker 1: that is what occurred, and Trump has proven that in

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Speaker 1: very short, very short order, within a few months of

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Speaker 1: taking office, it all changed. And so all those reporters,

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Speaker 1: all those Democrats who pretended under Biden's wide open border

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Speaker 1: policies that it was just beyond the capabilities of the

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Speaker 1: United States government to do something about it, they were

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Speaker 1: lying to you.

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Speaker 2: They were lying to you.

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Speaker 1: Please do not forget that, because there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: work to be done still on immigration, the H one

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Speaker 1: B issue, which is about reforming a legal component of immigration.

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Speaker 1: But let's still stay focused here for a bit on

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Speaker 1: the illegal immigration issue. We had around ten million. We

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Speaker 1: don't even know the exact number. We don't know how

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Speaker 1: many came in under Biden. We don't know how many

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Speaker 1: are here total. Nobody does, and anyone who says otherwise,

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Speaker 1: again lyne due. So we had ten million come in

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Speaker 1: under Biden, which means there are illegals in this country

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Speaker 1: who have been here for a short period of time,

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Speaker 1: completely unvetted, no idea who they are, and we, the

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Speaker 1: American people, have had enough of this. Solid majority of

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Speaker 1: Americans want illegals who came here under Biden to be

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Speaker 1: sent back to their home country, which is a This

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Speaker 1: is a just outcome. We're not arguing in favor of

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Speaker 1: solitary confinement for ten years for every legal came here.

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Speaker 1: I understand vast majority of them not bad people at all.

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Speaker 1: They want a better life themselves than their kids. I

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Speaker 1: bear for those illegals, I don't bear them any ill will.

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Speaker 2: But they aren't allowed to stay here. There's a different thing.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with them as individuals, as

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Speaker 1: human beings. And I saw what the Catholic Conference of Bishops,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I'm trying to be more active in

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Speaker 1: my Catholic faith in the last couple of years, well

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Speaker 1: obviously coinciding as well with my son's birth.

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Speaker 2: I think it is very important that he grow up in.

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Speaker 1: A household that at some level is practicing It's Christian faith,

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Speaker 1: not just believing and not just knowing, but but active

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Speaker 1: in our church and Catholic Church at least in an

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Speaker 1: a Christian faith at a minimum. I saw what the

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Speaker 1: Catholic Bishops put out there, and it's just yeah, I

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Speaker 1: won't get into this now other than I think there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of work to be done inside the Catholic

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Speaker 1: Church and the way that it has been brought so

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Speaker 1: far to the left. These bishops have nothing to say

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Speaker 1: about abortion everywhere, at all times, on demand and in

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Speaker 1: blue states, and abortion and pro abortion politicians, and they

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Speaker 1: pro transagenda politicians and for trans kids. All this nothing

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Speaker 1: to say about that, only open borders. This is when,

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Speaker 1: this is when it's too far for them. Very frustrating,

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Speaker 1: very frustrating, because in a modern American society, as we

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Speaker 1: in our modern American society, presence equals the state giving

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Speaker 1: them things that they take from Americans that are rightfully

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Speaker 1: that rightfully belong to Americans, and that are taken from

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Speaker 1: us under the threat of force. If I don't pay

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Speaker 1: my taxes, in fact, if I don't even if I

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Speaker 1: don't pay my taxes, I go to prison. If I

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Speaker 1: don't pay my healthcare premiums, I don't have access to

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Speaker 1: private healthcare, and I'm paying for all the emergency room

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Speaker 1: visits with my tax dollars for all these illegals they're

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Speaker 1: taking from there's a theft that occurs. A theft is

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Speaker 1: occurring on a massive scale by the presence of these illegals,

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Speaker 1: and it is a theft that people need to understand

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Speaker 1: in the most clear terms and that this must be

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Speaker 1: addressed by the administration. In fact, JD Vance, this has

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Speaker 1: cut twelve. So this ties into a lot, ties into

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Speaker 1: the jobs issue, ties into the tax issue, ties into

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Speaker 1: the housing issue. And here is JD Vance on the

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Speaker 1: issue of home affordability and illegals play twelve.

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Speaker 7: A lot of young people are saying housing is way

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Speaker 7: too expensive.

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Speaker 4: Why is that because we flooded the.

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Speaker 7: Country with thirty million illegal immigrants who were taking houses

657
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Speaker 7: that ought by right go to American citizens. And at

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Speaker 7: the same time, we weren't building enough new houses to

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Speaker 7: begin with, even for the population that we had.

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Speaker 4: So what we're.

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Speaker 7: Doing is trying to make it easier to build houses,

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Speaker 7: trying to make it easier to build factories and things

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Speaker 7: like that so that people have good jobs. We're also

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Speaker 7: getting all of those illegal aliens out of our country,

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Speaker 7: and you're already seeing it start to pay some dividend.

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Speaker 1: No matter what Democrats say, no matter what these civilization

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Speaker 1: undermining pro illegal alien NGOs do and say, supply and

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Speaker 1: demand is a real thing. It's a real thing. When

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Speaker 1: it comes to the labor market, it's a real thing.

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Speaker 1: When it comes to the housing market, it's always real,

671
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Speaker 1: it's always operating. It's just a question of how much

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Speaker 1: state interference is there, how much subterfuge is there in

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Speaker 1: the market. But people need places to live, they need

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Speaker 1: to pay for them. The prices are being set. And

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Speaker 1: in this case here let me get let me give

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Speaker 1: you just a particularly clear example, and this is short

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Speaker 1: term housing hotels New York City. I'm gonna be visiting

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Speaker 1: my family next week in New York. It has not

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Speaker 1: people keep even had people say to me like, has

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Speaker 1: Mamdani ruined it? Yet I'm like, well, he's not mayor yet,

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Speaker 1: so we gotta we gotta take a moment. You know,

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Speaker 1: it comes mayor think a little later. But here we

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Speaker 1: have New York City with its housing prices and it's

684
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Speaker 1: which are sky high. But also which is how Momdani

685
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Speaker 1: of course rode this issue into the mayor's office. But

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Speaker 1: then you have on top of that the hotels in

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Speaker 1: New York City. Hotels are wildly expensive. And I know

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Speaker 1: this because I'm looking at the hotel bills for next week,

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Speaker 1: and I went, oh, my gosh, hotels are wildly expensive

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Speaker 1: in New York. It was the case. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: what it is right now, but in the last few

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Speaker 1: years that migrants at taxpayer expense, we're taking up twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty to twenty five percent. I think it was of

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Speaker 1: the hotel rooms in the five boroughs of.

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Speaker 2: New York City. That's a huge portion of them.

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Speaker 1: When you take twenty five percent off the table for

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Speaker 1: those of us who are not government subsidized and not

698
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Speaker 1: having someone else pay for it, what happens.

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Speaker 2: Price goes up.

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Speaker 1: More people want the same amount of goods that are there,

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Speaker 1: the price goes up. So if that applies in New

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Speaker 1: York City, and it most certainly does the same way

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Speaker 1: that the thirty percent of illegals using all hotel I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry all er visits right, the same way that those

705
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Speaker 1: individuals create longer waits and more expensive care for everybody

706
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Speaker 1: else supply and demand. There's always a cost. There is

707
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Speaker 1: no free lunch. I mean, some people have a free lunch,

708
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Speaker 1: but it's not free for everybody, right, somebody else is

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Speaker 1: paying for that lunch. That's why there can't be a

710
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: free lunch, someone's paying and it's you, and many of

711
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Speaker 1: us have become tired of how much of that is

712
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Speaker 1: going on when it comes to illegal aliens in the

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Speaker 1: millions in this country. And there's also the issue of

714
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Speaker 1: when do we have too many illegals and when do

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Speaker 1: we have too many recent arrivals for assimilation to function

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Speaker 1: the way that it needs to in any society. Governor

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Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis of Florida. And it's not just because I

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Speaker 1: live here. Look, Governor de Santis is a big part

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Speaker 1: of why I moved here because of what he was

720
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Speaker 1: doing in this state. He I think is the best

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Speaker 1: governor still in America. I've I've never experienced this before,

722
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Speaker 1: and I joke around with my family members about this.

723
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Speaker 2: I used to just always have to tell myself, I

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Speaker 2: live in New York, all right, you know.

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Speaker 1: The political leadership although there were some good mayors, There

726
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Speaker 1: were some good mayors, but at the state level, lot

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Speaker 1: of bozo, a lot of dumb stuff being done at

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Speaker 1: that are well. I still love New York, even if

729
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: the leadership is dumb. Now I'm in Florida and I

730
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Speaker 1: get to say, Wow, this is a great state. I'm

731
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Speaker 1: really enjoying my life here, and the leadership does smart

732
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Speaker 1: things that they should do, and they even think of

733
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Speaker 1: smart things to do that I hadn't thought of.

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Speaker 2: That's what it is to be in a state.

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Speaker 1: With intelligent, conservative, realistic, sane governance. Now, you know, some

736
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Speaker 1: of you really like Texas, you really like Tennessee, you

737
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: really like whatever in red state.

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Speaker 2: Governor you have some of you in Utah. Well, I've

739
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: heard it. I've heard.

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Speaker 1: I've heard some mixed reviews about how you feel about

741
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Speaker 1: your state governance. You love your state, but I've heard.

742
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, we have a huge Salt Lake City audience.

743
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Speaker 1: I was out in Utah not long ago, and I heard,

744
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Speaker 1: you know, you love Utah, but the Utah leadership, I

745
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: hear some things a little mixed, a little mixed review.

746
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Speaker 1: But Desanti's weighed in on the illegal immigrant issue, and

747
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Speaker 1: here he is, and he's just saying something that needs

748
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Speaker 1: to be said. It is possible to take in too

749
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Speaker 1: many foreigners too quickly, and we need to be realistic

750
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Speaker 1: about that as a country, because at some level, a

751
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 1: country is an idea. It is lines on a map

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Speaker 1: that only can exist because there is a sense of

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Speaker 1: a political nation, family of people a bond that exists

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Speaker 1: between us as Americans.

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Speaker 2: It's a very complicated.

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Speaker 1: It's really interesting thing, isn't it the notion of this nation, state,

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Speaker 1: of this American family, that you and I you know,

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Speaker 1: you may have grown up in Washington State, or you

759
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: may have grown up in Colorado and I grew up

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Speaker 1: in New York City, and that there's something that holds us.

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Speaker 1: There are things that hold us together. We have all

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Speaker 1: this shared belief, all this shared sense of destiny and

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Speaker 1: purpose as Americans.

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Speaker 2: We have to.

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Speaker 1: Protect that and preserve that. It isn't just a guarantee.

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Speaker 1: In fact, countries fall apart. They have civil wars, they

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Speaker 1: have secession movements, they have breakages in that polity. The

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Speaker 1: Greeks would have called it right in that political family.

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Speaker 1: And Ron de Santis says, look, what if you bring

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Speaker 1: ten million people into people from Somalia into Georgia.

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Speaker 2: Would that be a good idea? Play cut eleven.

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Speaker 8: You have some strain on the right the son and

773
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 8: no illegal immigration is bad, legal immigration, no matter what,

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Speaker 8: is good.

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Speaker 2: And wait a minute now.

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Speaker 8: I'm not saying any of its that it's all bad

777
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Speaker 8: or what, but is bringing ten million people from like

778
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Speaker 8: Somalia in dumping them into Georgia.

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Speaker 2: Is that good because it's legal.

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Speaker 8: I think you have to think critically about what are

781
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Speaker 8: we doing with an immigration policy, and is it benefiting

782
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Speaker 8: the American people? Is it helping to promote a strong

783
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Speaker 8: American culture. We should never bring people into this country

784
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Speaker 8: who hate America.

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Speaker 2: We have to be smart.

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Speaker 8: It's lazy thinking to say anything that's legal must necessarily be.

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Speaker 1: Good critical And this is the next level of this discussion.

788
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Speaker 1: This is where this is all going.

789
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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: It's not just illegal immigration that needs a good long look.

791
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Speaker 1: We've had a lot of legal immigration. We've changed this

792
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: country faster with foreigners than at any time in our history,

793
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Speaker 1: more than the Ellis Island era, more than the period

794
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: of the of the settlers, more than any time. Okay,

795
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Speaker 1: we have had massive transformation. Now a lot of them,

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Speaker 1: A lot of people come here become great Americans. I

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00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: live here in South Florida. Hey, it's funny because I

798
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: through my study of authoritarianism and communism specifically, I just

799
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: have this inherent fondness and kinship with Venezuelan Americans and

800
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: Cuban Americans who are right wing and hate communism like

801
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: we just have. I just have this bond. I they

802
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: think how I think, and we so. Yes, it can

803
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,439
Speaker 1: work and it's a beautiful thing, and it is part

804
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: of the story of American I get all of that,

805
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: but there has to be a real conversation about have

806
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: we done too much of this thing? You know, you

807
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 1: drink too much water, you die. You know that that's

808
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 1: a truth, that's a real thing. You can actually die.

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00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: You need water to live. Water is not bad. Too

810
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Speaker 1: much water too as guys. I think it's called like

811
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Speaker 1: hypa natremia or something. Check me on this one. But

812
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 1: it's when you get the sodium levels get thrown off.

813
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: It happens to elite athletes sometimes, and like super marathons

814
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: or ultra marathons. You could water can kill you if

815
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: there's too much of it, drinking it, I mean, obviously

816
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 1: you can drown in it, but drinking too much water.

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Speaker 1: It is possible that too much of what is otherwise

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Speaker 1: a good thing or a valid thing. Have we had

819
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: too much legal immigration too quickly in this country. This

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Speaker 1: is not to disparage anyone who's come here legally. We

821
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Speaker 1: love our American legal immigrants, and you know, but the

822
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: number has gotten really big, and we do have to

823
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Speaker 1: draw a line somewhere, and maybe it's time to like,

824
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Speaker 1: you know, cozy up with our fellow Americans for a

825
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: while here and have some continuity, some sense of assimilation,

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Speaker 1: some sense of our shared americanness. That that is a

827
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Speaker 1: because if you look at previous periods of migration to America,

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Speaker 1: there was a surge and then things calm down for

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Speaker 1: a while and we let things settle. There was surge

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00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: and then we get it is only in this era

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Speaker 2: Everyone's coming, everyone's coming illegally.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a free for all that it's supposed

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Speaker 1: to continue this way in perpetuity. Ron knows, Ron de scientists,

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Speaker 1: the governor knows, that's crazy. No country can be the

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Speaker 1: and it has been number one, number one for many,

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Speaker 1: many weeks.

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Speaker 2: It's a great book. Highly recommend it to you.

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Speaker 1: Also the name of a wonderful movie, as we discussed

869
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Speaker 1: last time, Steven Seagal's best Eric. Great to have you

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Speaker 1: on the program.

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Speaker 9: Well, last time you thought it was John Claude Van Dam,

872
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 9: But what was Steven Skall? Now, Uh, listen, we've come

873
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Speaker 9: along way since then. We were number one New York

874
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Speaker 9: Times bestseller. We're number one every week on Amazon. We've

875
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Speaker 9: We've done an unbelievable job. And this country's pissed off.

876
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 9: My friend, I think you know that better than anybody.

877
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 9: But this country is is severely pissed off. And uh

878
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 9: and I think that's why you know it ran the

879
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 9: charts as hard as it did and it's white so

880
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 9: doing as well as it is.

881
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Speaker 1: I would tell you this, my friend, I think he

882
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: was play who messed up Jean Claude vend m and

883
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: H Steven Sagall because I would never never mess up

884
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: in our eighties action lore, that's a that's a clay.

885
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 1: I'm throwing clay right under the bus.

886
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Speaker 9: I throw Clay under the bus. I'm pretty I'm pretty

887
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 9: sure it was Tolay.

888
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Speaker 1: I'm taking this whispering angel chardonnay drinking, you know, fancy

889
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 1: fellow throwing.

890
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Speaker 2: Him on the bus. Anyway, he sends his regards.

891
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 1: By the way, he's on a he's on a super

892
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: secret mission which we will only be able to tell

893
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Speaker 1: the audience about I think later on the week.

894
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Speaker 2: But he's abroad right now.

895
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Speaker 1: But let me let me just ask about this because

896
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: you know, your dad today was President United States, was

897
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Speaker 1: in the Oval office with the Saudi Crown Prince, and

898
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Speaker 1: the questions from the reporters, and one in particular really

899
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Speaker 1: intended to just be attacks, not even really questions, you know,

900
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Speaker 1: very much in the when did you stop beating your

901
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: wife category of questions and President Trump but just had

902
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:23,919
Speaker 1: just had enough.

903
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 2: I gotta say, I hear that.

904
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Speaker 1: I see a lot of other people hear that, and

905
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Speaker 1: they think, yeah, I actually don't think the president should

906
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Speaker 1: sit there and just take abuse from journalists.

907
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 9: Well, he's not good at taking abuse from journalists, and

908
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 9: he's he's certainly at the point in his life where

909
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 9: he doesn't need to. In fact, some of those interactions

910
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 9: are some of those comical interactions you'll you'll ever see.

911
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 9: And you know, and in the media always portrays themselves

912
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 9: as jokers. They have this entire time. I mean, look

913
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 9: at sixty minutes, right, look at look at Leslie Stall.

914
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,760
Speaker 9: You know, you know, my father goes out, they're spying

915
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 9: on my campaign. They're not buying on your and then

916
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 9: sure enough, guess what we find out that they're buying

917
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 9: on the campaign. And look at you know, CNN every

918
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 9: single day, and look at the questions that they ask

919
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 9: and every single time they ask a question, Everything that

920
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 9: my father says is proven to be correct. And yet

921
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 9: they continue to go down these narratives, right, I mean,

922
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 9: look at the New York Times with their Pulitzer prizes

923
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 9: for the Russia hoax. It was a hoax. They you know,

924
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 9: they let it run for a three year period of

925
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 9: time and then it came out those a hoax. They

926
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 9: won't give back their Politzer prizes. But yet they've braided

927
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 9: my father every single day. Look at all the sham

928
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 9: indictments and trials in New York where every single day,

929
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 9: you know, they said my father was going to jail.

930
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 9: They said that, you know, he was good, he was

931
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 9: the worst human And guess what, every single one of

932
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 9: those lawsuits got got overturned, right, every single one of

933
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 9: those indictments got overturned in the court system. And so,

934
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 9: you know, the point of the narrative is our media

935
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 9: in this country doesn't have a whole lot of credibility.

936
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 9: The trust in our media in this country is single digits, right.

937
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 9: No one likes them, no one trusts them. They normally

938
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Speaker 9: conduct themselves like absolute fools.

939
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Speaker 4: And it's why.

940
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Speaker 9: American people don't like them. Don't watch him and his

941
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 9: white independent voice like yours is doing so well.

942
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Speaker 1: Well, you know, on this issue of the critics of

943
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 1: the administration of your dad and the team he has

944
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: around him in the cabinet, it's pretty remarkable to me.

945
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Speaker 1: You know, you run, You're the executive vice president of

946
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Speaker 1: the Trump organization. You've been operating in the world of

947
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: international business dealings and at a scale with you know,

948
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: big dollar figures, a lot of employees, a lot of productivity,

949
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Speaker 1: a lot of things going on. The voices that I

950
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Speaker 1: hear attacking Trump from the left, the Democrat Party, attacking

951
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Speaker 1: this administration on affordability, on things like housing, I.

952
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Speaker 2: Just have to laugh.

953
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Speaker 1: These people you know, this is the AOC, Mam Donnie Wing.

954
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 1: They don't know a darn thing about how to build anything,

955
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,760
Speaker 1: what it costs, what it means to actually create product

956
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Speaker 1: for people like homes to live in, and yet they're

957
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: the experts on this, I mean, this strain of Mamdanism.

958
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: It's just going to drive you nuts as part of

959
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 1: a family of builders.

960
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Speaker 9: You know what it drives me to nuts is actually,

961
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 9: under Joe Biden, you had you know, four years of

962
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 9: ten percent plus inflation in this country, right. That means

963
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Speaker 9: every two by four at home depot was more expensive.

964
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 9: I mean, housing prices literally doubled. And that's because of massive,

965
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 9: massive inflation. Guess who that benefits. That doesn't benefit you know,

966
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 9: the lower middle classes. That benefits people that have assets.

967
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 9: And yet they're talking about affordability now, so you mean

968
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 9: to tell me ten percent compound in every single year.

969
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 9: You remember energy prices, you know, Bucky, you remember the

970
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 9: little stickers that said I did that and it's a

971
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 9: picture of Joe Biden's face, and everybody was putting them

972
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Speaker 9: on the gas prices. You know, gas pumps all over

973
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Speaker 9: the country. Right when energy costs became some of the

974
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 9: most expensive in history. When you know, America stopped exporting energy, right,

975
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,439
Speaker 9: they became dependent on other countries for energy, even though

976
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Speaker 9: that we were totally energy sufficient under my father's first term,

977
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Speaker 9: and he gave it all away when he started banning

978
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 9: the Keystone Xcel pipeline and so many other projects. Right,

979
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 9: Biden caused that problem. Biden caused the inflation. Look at

980
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 9: inflation rates today under my father versus inflation rates under

981
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 9: Joe Biden. It's laughable that anybody could say that the

982
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:14,280
Speaker 9: affordability crisis occurred under Donald Trump and not Joe Biden.

983
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 9: When you literally had the cost of everyday life go

984
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 9: up a compounding ten percent a year. It was over

985
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 9: forty percent over the four year period of time when

986
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 9: nominal wages were increasing like two percent a year. Right,

987
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 9: people are getting crammed down by twenty five, thirty thirty

988
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 9: five percent over that period of time where they were

989
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 9: losing grounds. The cost of everything was going like this,

990
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 9: and obviously wage growth was virtually stagnant. I find it comical,

991
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 9: to say the least.

992
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,280
Speaker 1: Speaking of Eric Trump, Number one New York Time's bestseller

993
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: under Siege is his book, which I know so many

994
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: of you have gotten copies of it if you haven't,

995
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: makes a great present for the holidays. Eric, you know,

996
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: we're coming into the end of the year holiday season

997
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of talk, like I said, about

998
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 1: affordability and people. I'm sure we're going to see the

999
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: news reports on Monday Tuesday about the cost of a

1000
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving dinner now versus obviously under Biden, the inflation for

1001
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 1: these dinners was tremendous. Now Trump, your dad's bringing this

1002
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: stuff down. But what is your You're having to operate

1003
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: in the private sector in ways that you have tremendous

1004
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: connectivity here at home and around the world. What's your

1005
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 1: look ahead for the twenty twenty six economy here at home?

1006
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: What are some of the things that you think could

1007
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:31,720
Speaker 1: really ignite the continuation of a lot of the growth

1008
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: and a lot of the good policy that we've seen, Like,

1009
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: what are you looking at for twenty twenty six when

1010
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: it comes to the costs of things, pocketbook issues, all that.

1011
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 9: A buck. I've never been more bullish on the future

1012
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 9: of AMERICAI. I mean, I mean that sincerely. You know,

1013
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 9: if you look at what my father's doing on energy, right,

1014
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 9: he wants energy, he wants these SMRs. He wants these

1015
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 9: nuclear reactors, right, he's permitting them left and right. He's saying, drill, baby, drill.

1016
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,439
Speaker 9: He wants to have the cheapest energy in the world.

1017
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 9: And why is that? Let me let me just explain

1018
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 9: this to everybody. Energy costs are directly correlated to GDP.

1019
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 9: The lower your energy costs, generally speaking, the higher your

1020
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 9: GDP costs are, and you can track that for literally

1021
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 9: decades and decades around the world. You keep low energy costs,

1022
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 9: you're going to have high GDP. That's especially true when

1023
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 9: you have things like like you know, the crypto industries,

1024
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 9: the AI industries, industries that can transform, you know, be

1025
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 9: transformational to an economy. Obviously, AI is that revolution. Crypto

1026
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 9: in terms of digital finance is that revolution. Guess what

1027
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 9: they need? They need energy? So does manufacturing. It needs

1028
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 9: it needs energy. We've got more energy under our feet

1029
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 9: than any country anywhere in the world, and we're finally

1030
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 9: exploiting that again, which is an amazing thing for the

1031
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 9: United States of America. That's what pulls costs down. You know,

1032
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,720
Speaker 9: they say about fifty to sixty percent of all inflation

1033
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 9: is the cost of energy. Because for every egg, for

1034
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 9: every gallon of milk for you know, guess what you

1035
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,240
Speaker 9: need to do. You need to transport that, and transport

1036
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 9: and costs are expensive. And that's all based you know,

1037
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 9: on oil and gas and ultimately energy. So we're solving

1038
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 9: the energy. Second of all, look at bonus appreciation, right,

1039
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 9: So my father put in one hundred percent bonus appreciation.

1040
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 9: It means that every person who reinvested their company, reinvest

1041
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 9: in their business, is able to write it off, you know,

1042
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 9: day one, year one. What that's going to do in

1043
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 9: terms of the contracting space, what that's going to do

1044
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 9: with in terms of inward investing in companies in America

1045
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 9: is going to be transformational. Third of all, look at

1046
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 9: the you know, the tax plan. The largest tax breaks

1047
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 9: in the history of our country were put in by

1048
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 9: by my father. Right, that's going to be revolutionary for

1049
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 9: American competitiveness around the world, you know, a business owners. Fourth,

1050
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 9: look at the amount of inward investment that's coming into

1051
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 9: our country. And look at what Saudi Arabia is doing.

1052
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 9: Look at what all these countries are doing. Literally trillions

1053
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 9: of dollars at this point, trillions and trillions of dollars

1054
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 9: are coming into the United States and that's before you

1055
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 9: even get to you know, he's going out to every

1056
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 9: country saying, listen, aside from the fact I want you

1057
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 9: to invest two trillion dollars in the US or trillion

1058
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 9: dollars or eight hundred million dollars, I want you to

1059
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 9: go out and I want you to buy two hundred

1060
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 9: Boeing aircraft. Right. I mean, he's literally saving industries by

1061
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 9: by what he's what he's doing. In fifth, you look

1062
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 9: at you know, the tariffs. The tariffs are working. It's

1063
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 9: hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars that are flowing

1064
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 9: back into this country based on tariffs, based on the

1065
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 9: fact that everybody wants to and needs to trade with

1066
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 9: the United States of America, which is by far the

1067
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 9: world's largest economy at thirty two thirty three trillion dollars.

1068
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 9: And guess what he's doing on the opposice side. He's

1069
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 9: getting rid of all tariffs. He's getting rid of all duties,

1070
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 9: which is allowing forward and allowing all the you know,

1071
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 9: American companies to be able to export their product overseas.

1072
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 9: The point of this story is, I've never been more

1073
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 9: bullish on the United States ever before. There's confidence in

1074
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 9: this country. There's respect around the world for the United

1075
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 9: States of America. Everybody wants to be part of a dollar.

1076
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 9: You see stable coins all around the world that are

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Speaker 9: pegged to the US dollar. Trillions of dollars are going

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Speaker 9: to come into our economy based on stable coins, based

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Speaker 9: on the growth of cryptocurrencies, which I believe in with

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Speaker 9: every aspect of my heart and soul. Are our economy

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Speaker 9: Of course, you always have polatility in every economy, But

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Speaker 9: I think we are You compare America to Europe, it's

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Speaker 9: not even close. You compare America to just about any

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Speaker 9: We're doing all the right things, and we're doing them

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Speaker 9: quickly and smartly, and America is ultimately going to win

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Speaker 9: because of it. And there's never been a time in

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Speaker 1: Eric Trump, everybody go get a copy of his book

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Loo, I'm bullish on the economy too. I think

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