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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to follow up on our faith slash Christianity

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Speaker 2: conversation from last week, and it was going to actually

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Speaker 2: be a little bit different than this when I started,

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Speaker 2: But then I started reading some of the responses to

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Speaker 2: last week's podcast, which I have to say, we're mostly

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Speaker 2: positive and I am so grateful for all of your

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Speaker 2: kind remarks, But as always, there are a few doozies

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Speaker 2: out there, and this time it was that I am

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Speaker 2: not a true Christian because I've talked about Republican candidates

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Speaker 2: losing because of their strong pro life stance. It's something

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Speaker 2: that I actually have a little bit of experience in.

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Speaker 2: But needless to say, there are some folks out there

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Speaker 2: who are mad, and I'm thinking that maybe they're either

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Speaker 2: not hearing what I'm saying, or maybe they are and

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Speaker 2: they hate it, and that's okay, But I just kind

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Speaker 2: of want to.

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Speaker 1: Unpack this a little bit more.

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Speaker 2: I know a lot of you were like, listen, we

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Speaker 2: don't want to hear anything more about abortion, but I'm

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Speaker 2: asking you please don't shut this off, just hear me out,

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Speaker 2: because I think we do need to do this. I

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Speaker 2: think that we as conservatives or Republicans, or even if

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Speaker 2: you're an independent, you need to hear what's going on

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Speaker 2: in this country with abortion, where we stand and where

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Speaker 2: we need to push to go, or where I think

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Speaker 2: that we have an opportunity. So I know you guys

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Speaker 2: don't want to talk about it. You think abortion is

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Speaker 2: done on the ballot, but it's not. We just had

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Speaker 2: to no limits abortion ballot initiative pass in Ohio and

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Speaker 2: it looks like about six to eight more states will

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Speaker 2: add abortion to the ballot in twenty twenty four. And

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you it wins every time. If you don't

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Speaker 2: believe me, listen to Kaylee Mack and any say it here.

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Speaker 3: She is one other point I would just make because

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Speaker 3: on the issue of abortion and Ohio tonight, we continue

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Speaker 3: the losing streak in the pro life movement. Every ballot

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Speaker 3: initiative has been lost Postdobs for the pro life movement.

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Speaker 2: So we have seven now we're talking about six to

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Speaker 2: eight more. This will go through every state. And you

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Speaker 2: know why, It's because Democrats know it wins. They know

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Speaker 2: they can have the right messaging for it to win again.

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Speaker 2: I know this is not fun to hear about abortion,

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Speaker 2: but some of you out there are wondering what is

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Speaker 2: the Republican message on abortion going to be? And trust me,

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Speaker 2: I've seen the op eds out there saying abortion is

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Speaker 2: not the problem, it's the other messaging. They point to

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Speaker 2: races and states where abortion was on the ballot and

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Speaker 2: other Republicans won. Listen, other folks will tell you Republicans

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Speaker 2: just need good messages on abortion. Many people are going

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Speaker 2: to point to Nikki Haley's message on abortion. This is

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Speaker 2: what she said in the last debate.

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Speaker 1: Listen to this.

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Speaker 4: I think you have to be honest with the American people.

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Speaker 4: This is a personal issue for every woman and every man.

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Speaker 4: I am unapologetically pro life, not because the Republican Party

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Speaker 4: tells me to be, but because my husband, Michael, was

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Speaker 4: So I'm surrounded by blessings. Having said that, when you

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Speaker 4: look post Row, a.

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Speaker 5: Wrong was made right.

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Speaker 4: They took it out of the hands of unelected justices

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Speaker 4: and they put it in the hands of the people.

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Speaker 5: And now we're seeing states vote.

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Speaker 4: And what I'll tell you is, as much as I'm

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Speaker 4: And I don't want them to judge me for being

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Speaker 4: pro life. So when we're looking at this, there are

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Speaker 4: some states that are going more on the pro life side.

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Speaker 4: I welcome that there's some states that are going more

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Speaker 5: I wish that wasn't the case, but the people decided.

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Speaker 4: But when it comes to the federal law, which is

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Speaker 4: what's being debated here, be honest, it's going to take

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Speaker 4: sixty Senate votes, a majority of the House, and a

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Speaker 4: president to sign it. So we have had sixty Senate

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Speaker 5: We might have forty five pro life senators.

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Speaker 4: So no Republican president can ban abortions any more than

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Speaker 4: a Democrat president can ban these state laws. So let's

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Speaker 4: find consensus. Let's agree on what how we can ban

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Speaker 4: late term abortions. Let's make sure we encourage adoptions and

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Speaker 5: Let's make sure that none.

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Speaker 4: Of these state laws a woman in jail or give

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Speaker 4: and support as many moms as we can, and stop

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Speaker 4: the judgment. We don't need to divide America over this

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Speaker 1: Look, she's being honest.

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Speaker 2: She may not like it, or you may not like it,

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Speaker 2: and she doesn't like it, I promise you that, and

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Speaker 2: I don't like it. But the truth is there's not

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Speaker 2: enough support in the Senate to pass federal restrictions on abortion.

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Speaker 2: The unfortunate reality with this message is that it's merely

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Speaker 2: deflecting abortion attacks. But it doesn't create an abortion plan

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Speaker 2: for Republicans. There's no plan that makes everyone happy, and

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Speaker 2: therefore there is no plan, and no plan puts Republican

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Speaker 2: present a plan, unless that's going to be presenting a

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Speaker 2: strong pro life plan. And I assure you that if

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Speaker 2: you present a strong pro life plan as a candidate

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Speaker 2: right now, that brings a barrage of negative ads from Democrats.

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Speaker 2: And again I'm not making this, I'm speaking from experience.

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Speaker 2: Those ads are impossible to come back from. Even conservative

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Speaker 2: they have a losing message. They're mad about it, and

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Speaker 2: I get why they're mad about it. I mean, listen

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Speaker 6: That's irrespective of how any of us may feel on

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Speaker 6: the life choice issue. They are too extreme for the voters,

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Speaker 6: even in states like Kentucky, and they're going to keep

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Speaker 6: losing unless they come to that realization. This is going

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Speaker 6: to be a gradual fight that they're going to have

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Speaker 6: to win bit by bit. They cannot win by saying

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Speaker 6: no abortions and no exceptions.

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Speaker 1: It's a fucking loser.

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Speaker 2: Look, I'm never going to get that mad about abortion

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Speaker 2: losing for us, because it's just not that easy. I mean,

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Speaker 2: everybody's like, you just got to say something about it.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think many of these people.

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Speaker 2: I know, almost none of these people have lived through

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Speaker 2: it themselves, have seen the attacks, have seen their own

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Speaker 2: words twisted in ways that would curl your hair. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they have very effective attacks against us. But who would guess,

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is the bizarre thing about it. Who

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Speaker 2: I'm proud that I'm pro life personally for me and

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Speaker 2: my family being pro life, that's a moral decision between

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Speaker 2: or that we don't have to have this conversation, because

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Speaker 2: we do. There's a full blown attack on life, and

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Speaker 2: it's a problem. It's a problem for candidates, it's a

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Speaker 2: problem for Republicans. But right now Republicans feel lost. Some

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Speaker 2: of those are angry, and they're angry with those who

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Speaker 2: want to compromise. And I can tell you for candidates,

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Speaker 2: abortion is a minefield and Democrats abortion is campaign gold.

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Speaker 2: Why didn't Harris even know it? Listen to what Kamala

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Speaker 7: Democrats just one in Virginia. And here's what that means

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Speaker 7: across the country. Voters are rejecting extremist plans to ban abortion.

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Speaker 7: It proves that not only is it bad policy, it

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Speaker 7: we still have a lot of work to do because

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Speaker 7: extremist leaders still want a national abortion ban. So that's

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Speaker 7: why we need you, and we need you to be

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Speaker 7: involved in our campaign together. Let's make sure voters around

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Speaker 2: This is their thing they come out, they call us extremists,

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Speaker 1: They see this as their moment to take ground. We

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Speaker 1: can never recover and we're floundering. You may be asking

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Speaker 1: how this plays off my faith message from last week,

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Speaker 1: and that comes in now because I've talked a lot

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Speaker 1: about abortion and what we did wrong in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I think I'm one of the only candidates

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Speaker 1: believe the reason more people don't talk about their experience

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Speaker 1: pro life with limited exceptions, is unwinnable. In most states,

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Speaker 1: the attacks come quickly, They come real quick.

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Speaker 2: But these attacks, these aren't like the random trolls. These

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Speaker 2: are attackers that are personal. These are attacks that you know.

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Speaker 2: They're not from random people. They're from people who supported

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Speaker 2: you during your race.

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Speaker 1: And now those.

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Speaker 2: People are not only saying you're a disappointment to them.

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Speaker 2: You're not the person that you said you were. Unlike

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Speaker 2: some random troll. They're saying you lack faith, and that penetrates.

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Speaker 2: It penetrates a little bit deeper in the skin than

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Speaker 1: Listen. I could tell I could let that stop me.

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Speaker 2: I could say, Hey, you know what, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: just stop talking about it. It's awkward. It is awkward.

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Speaker 2: It's a horrible conversation. It is horrible for me to

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Speaker 2: But listen, I'm not going to let it stop me

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Speaker 2: because my conversation on this doesn't have anything to do

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Speaker 2: allows me to peel back the layers of the onion

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Speaker 2: and say, Okay, God, you're letting these things pass. These

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Speaker 2: aren't mistakes on his part. These are passing because God

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Speaker 2: What am I supposed to take from that as a believer?

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Speaker 2: And listen, I know that can make you mad, and

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Speaker 2: you might want someone to blame for some of you

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Speaker 2: fighting for life has been your identity. And these major losses,

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Speaker 2: losses bigger than row. These losses, they cut deep. I

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Speaker 2: next on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I could have these

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Speaker 1: I would.

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Speaker 2: I hear the Democrats cheering out even the thought of

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Speaker 2: that doing that, but I don't know if that gets

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Speaker 2: us closer to a moral solution. And I also know

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Speaker 2: that I didn't fail these babies alone. I didn't do

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Speaker 2: this all by myself. This is the really hard part

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Speaker 2: that people weren't gonna want to hear. This is the

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Speaker 2: people will get really mad at me. But I'm asking

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Speaker 2: you to seriously hear me out here. We all failed

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Speaker 2: these babies, all of us. But a little bit deeper. Somehow,

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Speaker 2: the groups who have taken hundreds of millions of dollars

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Speaker 2: to protect life for the past five decades, they've failed

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Speaker 2: to convince Americans that life matters.

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Speaker 1: Those groups, they're not rushing to take any blame.

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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty three, some Republicans decided they would go rogue,

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Speaker 1: With no parental consent, and no one has to know.

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Speaker 2: Ad to the Democrat narrative was the Democrat narrative that

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Speaker 8: And this is not acceptable.

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Speaker 2: She can barely get the message out and it still

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Speaker 2: They pick and choose who to take down, and we

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Speaker 9: I was raped by my stepfather after years of sexual abuse.

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Speaker 1: This is to you, Daniel Cameron.

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Speaker 9: To tell a twelve year old girl she must have

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Speaker 9: I'm speaking out because women and girls need to have options.

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Speaker 5: Daniel Cameron would give us none.

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Speaker 1: It's powerful.

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Speaker 2: That is the message that Republican candidates are up against,

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Speaker 2: The alternative with a hardbeat bill not because that was tested.

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Speaker 2: It's not because that they did all this research and

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Speaker 2: found out that the majority of people in Ohio wanted

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Speaker 2: a heartbeat bill. And again, I'm not saying this because

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Speaker 2: that's what I want. I'm saying this because unless you

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Speaker 2: doing this. If you want conservatives in office that can

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Speaker 2: come around this in other ways and help families to

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Speaker 2: make different decisions when it comes to babies, then you

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Speaker 2: have to be able to get there. These messages. The

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Speaker 2: heartbeat bill wasn't tested in Ohio obviously, and so people

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Speaker 2: over a heartbeat bill would choose no limits. The lack

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Speaker 2: of judgment of testing. These messages just gave Ohio no

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Speaker 2: limits and maybe a chance to get back to Roe v.

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Speaker 2: Wade at some point. I know you guys don't want

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Speaker 2: to see a abortion available up to fifteen weeks. The

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Speaker 2: sad thing is, and you all know this best. That's

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Speaker 2: where the people are, and we the people, govern this land.

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Speaker 2: It is time to embrace the small wins. It's time

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Speaker 2: to take the time to learn how to make those

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Speaker 2: bigger wins. Use your resources to help reduce abortion. And

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Speaker 2: I suggest starting by pushing for that nine to thirteen

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Speaker 2: week win over Roe v. Wade Again, you go from

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Speaker 2: twenty four to twenty eight weeks to fifteen weeks.

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Speaker 1: That's a win. It's a huge win from where you

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Speaker 1: were a year and a half ago. And it's a

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Speaker 1: huge win from where you are in Ohio and Michigan

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Speaker 1: and what five other states. Celebrate those small wins and

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Speaker 1: get bigger wins. Culturally, that's where I believe God is

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Speaker 1: calling us. I said it before He allowed this to happen.

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Speaker 1: He allowed these radical ballot initiatives pass.

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Speaker 2: So ask yourself, why what is he asking of you

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Speaker 2: and what did you not do? It must not be

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Speaker 2: just a law. He wants you to live in the world.

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Speaker 2: Like we talked about the other day. You may not

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Speaker 2: be of the world, but you are in the world

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Speaker 2: and he's asking you to impact it. So to think

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Speaker 2: about that, Just take some time and say what do

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Speaker 2: I need to do. If it's not a legal issue,

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Speaker 2: if it's not someone pulling out a law book and

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Speaker 2: saying this is where it has to be, how can

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Speaker 2: I impact life? And as my grandmother would say, there

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Speaker 2: are more ways than one to skin a cat. So

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Speaker 2: maybe we just have to expand our thinking on this

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Speaker 2: saving lives thing. Otherwise Dems are going to be saying

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Speaker 2: they're saving lives with all the abortions.

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Speaker 1: Listen to this, it's crazy, but this is what they say.

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Speaker 10: Andy Basheer, who is in a ruby red state, promised

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Speaker 10: to keep abortion legal, which demonstrates that wherever Democrats run

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Speaker 10: on abortion, they win.

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Speaker 1: This is about life.

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Speaker 10: This is if you cannot control your body, nothing else

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Speaker 10: now letters. This rests at the core of humanity. So

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Speaker 10: this demonstrates that we've aductive rights will continue to be

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Speaker 10: a winning issue everywhere, and this is the very issue

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Speaker 10: that Biden and Democrats need to propel young people who.

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Speaker 1: Are otherwise unsure to the polls. This is no joke.

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Speaker 10: You know. We should vote like our life depends on it,

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Speaker 10: because in this case it literally does.

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Speaker 2: We should vote like our life depends on it because

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Speaker 2: it does. That's what they say, stupid, but it works.

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Speaker 2: It's bananas. It's bizarre, But for some reason, Americans like

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Speaker 2: this better than what Republicans are offering.

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Speaker 1: So look, folks, there's no way around it.

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Speaker 2: It's time to think differently about how to save those babies' lives.

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Speaker 2: That's my message to you. It's not easy. We don't

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Speaker 2: have a message. We have to stop not having a message.

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Speaker 2: You have to have an alternative on the ballot. Protect

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Speaker 2: your candidates, get them in there. Make sure they're doing

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Speaker 2: things for families, for young women, for this country, for

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Speaker 2: national security. Make sure that we're not all trying to

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Speaker 2: figure out how to get our cars charged and have

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Speaker 2: our refrigerators run at the same time. Get those people

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Speaker 2: into office. But figure this out. You can do it

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Speaker 2: more ways than one. I love your feedback. I know

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Speaker 2: I started this by saying we get a lot of feedback.

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Speaker 1: Some of it's not nice. I don't care. I want it.

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Speaker 2: So reach out to us. Tell us what you think.

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Speaker 2: I want to hear what you think about abortion. How

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Speaker 2: we can do this going forward. We're in this together.

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Speaker 2: We are not alone. No one person did this, No

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Speaker 2: one person is going to get out of it. Reach

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Speaker 2: out to us and let us know what you think

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