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Speaker 1: Christmas Rider around the Corner live in Chicago. It's The

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Speaker 1: Herd wherever you may be, however you may be listening

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Speaker 1: the playoff picture. We've got clarity, Denvers for real, the

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Speaker 1: Bears are for real, Packers probably trending the other way.

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Speaker 1: New England's still fine, but we all knew with New

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Speaker 1: England kind of still in a rebuild. Second half yesterday

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Speaker 1: banged up whole line sort of proved it. But we

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Speaker 1: do it every Monday at this time. We take swings.

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Speaker 1: I'm wrong often, and here we go where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: I said all off season and I've said for the

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Speaker 1: last month. I think the Chiefs are in a rebuild,

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Speaker 1: not just a red tool next year. They're forty four

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Speaker 1: million over the cap. They got shut out in the

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Speaker 1: second half. Isaiah Pacheco was their leading rusher, at twenty

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Speaker 1: one yards. I don't think they're talented enough. I think

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Speaker 1: they need to address the O line, the D line,

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Speaker 1: the running back room, the tight end room. I had

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Speaker 1: them as a wild card team, and yeah they've had

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Speaker 1: some close losses, but there was no question watching yesterday,

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Speaker 1: this is not a team that's just you know, a

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've always said Dan Campbell builds a great culture.

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Speaker 1: I don't consider him a scheme guy. But since he's

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Speaker 1: taken over the play calling, he's been great. Detroit's number

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Speaker 1: two in total offense, number one in yards per play.

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Speaker 1: He is unlocked Jamison Williams. He's done a great job.

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Speaker 1: Dan Campbell is a much better coach calling plays than

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Speaker 1: I would have imagined. That offense is not the problem

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Speaker 1: Brian Branch. Losing him in the back end at really

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Speaker 1: hurts because you got to win some shootouts in the

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Speaker 1: NFC the way the quarterbacks are developing. But I've been

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Speaker 1: a little hard on Dan Campbell. I think he's done

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Speaker 1: a great job taking over play come.

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: All my concerns with Brian Schottenheimer have surfaced. With extra

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Speaker 1: time to prepare that offensive performance two for twelve on

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Speaker 1: third down just not good enough. Six seven and one.

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Speaker 1: They're now a bad red zone team, eighteenth in the league.

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Speaker 1: And again, that's with Dak, that's with a run game,

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Speaker 1: that's with elite wide receivers. They're just not a consistent team.

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Speaker 1: I do think the future is brighter than many believe.

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Speaker 1: But all the things we worried about getting out coached

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Speaker 1: in big spot situationally being mid they've all surfaced.

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1: I was okay with Pete Carroll being hired with the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: I thought he would steady the ship. It's been a disaster.

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Speaker 1: He's lost his fastball seventy five total yards against Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: Come on, that's that's brutal. So his last couple of

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the Raiders do well.

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Speaker 2: They are.

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Speaker 1: They are the worst team in the NFL, and there's

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Speaker 1: guy bo Nicks out played Jordan Love for tuddies four

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Speaker 1: I said it when he was at Oregon. I watched

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Speaker 1: them live twice. Super athletic. Got a Steve Young quality,

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1: Well, the Jags are a franchise I never trust, but

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Speaker 1: I mean, Trevor Lawrence has always had talent. The Jags

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: I said Friday, is it possible Philip Rivers will be fine?

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Speaker 1: He was never athletic anyway. I mean I watched Kirk

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: CJ. Stroud, I keep hearing, wow sophomore slump. Listen, dude

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Speaker 1: you give him a little time, he's money. I will

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Speaker 1: defend CJ. Stroud. He wants to throw from the pocket.

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Speaker 1: He's good enough moving Nko Collison. He's got his number

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Speaker 1: I'll defend him. That's a franchise quarterback. He'll run if

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Speaker 1: and with that. Albert Breer covering the NFL since two

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Speaker 1: thousand and five, you know, it's funny. Sean Payton text

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Speaker 1: me the last two years. He said, you guys can

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Speaker 1: pay attention to the other quarterbacks. They're fine, He goes,

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Speaker 1: I've got a really, really good quarterback. I thought last

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Speaker 1: he's a special player. He's a special player, and you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he wasn't perfect.

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Speaker 3: There were a couple of I think, opportunities for the

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Speaker 2: But I think part of that is the Bronco is.

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Speaker 3: Becoming more comfortable in taking the leash off of Bonnicks

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Speaker 3: And there was one in particular Colin that I think

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Speaker 3: Fourth and two, nine minutes left and the Broncos are

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Speaker 3: the complexion of the entire game changes. And you would

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Speaker 3: think with a second year quarterback in that spot, maybe

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Speaker 3: run or throw instead. Sean Payton drops bone Nicks back

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Speaker 2: Down field to Courtland.

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Speaker 3: Sudden boon Nick hits that the Broncos wind up scoring

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Speaker 3: me and that spot on fourth and two. Sean Payton's

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Speaker 3: confidence to put the ball in bo Nix's hands, but

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Speaker 2: Tells you a lot about where they are right now.

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Speaker 3: Just as far as the progression of Bonnix's growth and

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Speaker 3: I mean again, two more wins and the AFC road

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Speaker 3: goes through Denver. That's a very difficult place to play, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, the Broncos have a lot of things going

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Speaker 3: right now, and the quarterback is very clearly a big

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Speaker 1: Yeah, even Belichick and Brady didn't want to go to Denver.

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Speaker 1: It's just a tough place to play with the altitude.

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Speaker 1: So I'm watching, you know, I said, it's hard to

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Speaker 1: develop a quarterback and win games simultaneously. That's what Ben

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Speaker 1: Johnson's done. There was a time in week three or

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Speaker 1: four I sat on the air you could watch Ben

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Speaker 1: Johnson's body language. I think he's the best first time

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Speaker 1: hire since Sean McVay. Let's go back to like week

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Speaker 1: three and four in you're sourcing where it was a

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Speaker 1: little choppy early Ben was getting frustrated at press conferences.

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Speaker 1: We forget that, right they I'm gonna put this delicately.

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Speaker 3: They didnt teach him how to play quarterback, Like that's

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Speaker 3: really what it was, you know, And like they felt

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Speaker 3: like we had to figure out, like how much we

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Speaker 3: can throw onto this kid, how much this kid can handle,

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Speaker 3: because they felt like he was smart and he had

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Speaker 3: the aptitude to do it. But they got a player

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Speaker 3: I really respect about the way Ben handled this colin

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Speaker 3: was going back to the summer, and I think you

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Speaker 3: and I talked about it a bunch, right like where

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Speaker 3: didn't really care if it didn't look good in the summer.

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Speaker 2: It was we're going to overload.

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Speaker 3: Him with information now and then we'll scale it back

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Speaker 3: as we build the offense, and we'll lean into what

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Speaker 3: from there. And there are a lot of coaches, I think,

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Speaker 3: would be afraid to do something like that, right, especially

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Speaker 3: in a market like Chicago where a player's performance and

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Speaker 3: practice is going to be digested in a different way

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Speaker 2: Ben didn't care. Ben though, Caleb could handle it.

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Speaker 3: And I think what you're seeing now, and then I

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Speaker 3: There was a play in the first quarter he made

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Speaker 2: Burden come open over the middle, and just delivered a dart.

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Speaker 3: It was just one of those plays where you see

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Speaker 3: how calm and cool he was in the pocket where

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Speaker 3: he wouldn't have made that throw two months ago. And again,

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Speaker 3: it's like a little thing that you don't notice if

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Speaker 3: you're not looking for it, but it's happening over and

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Speaker 3: over and over again. And so I think through playing

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Speaker 3: good defensive football, through building a really really difficult to

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Speaker 3: deal with run game. They've bought Caleb Williams time to develop,

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Speaker 3: and now you're seeing the approach that they took with

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Speaker 3: Caleb Williams over the summer starting to pay off, and

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Speaker 3: that Caleb has seen a lot now both in practicing

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Speaker 3: he looks back there.

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Speaker 1: So I will stand by this and die on this hill.

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Speaker 1: I love Brett Veach, but I said it earlier. It's

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Speaker 1: Kansas City is like Marvel Comics. They're trying to develop

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Speaker 1: new characters and they're struggling. They're like Jones and Mahomes

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Speaker 1: and Travis Kelsey and it's like tru.

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Speaker 2: I'm going back to Iron Man, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like they're trying to develop new guys and

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Speaker 1: they can't trust. For SHEI Rice and we're these more

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Speaker 1: I think it's a bit more of a rebuild and

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Speaker 1: a retool. I'm looking at the Rams' eighth ninth best player.

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Speaker 1: It could be Nate Lanman. I look at their fourth

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Speaker 1: best and it's Travis Kelsey. You may retire. I watched yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Herbert was better than Mahomes. I think the Chargers have

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Speaker 1: more elite players. What are you on their future in

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Speaker 3: And so I think that's sort of the juncture the

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Speaker 3: And so where does George Carloftis fit into that?

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Speaker 1: So listen, Josh Allen is four and oh this year

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Speaker 2: And that's what's interesting about this At Oliver could come

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Speaker 3: Does Brandon Cooks get a little bit more comfortable Dalton

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Speaker 1: By the way, nine field goals, it's the most entertaining

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Speaker 3: And so he kept him he kept throwing, you know,

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Speaker 3: It's a really remarkable story and I hope everybody can

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Speaker 1: Finally, Dolphins tonight, so they got from their GM And

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Speaker 3: about him having control a locker room, well, one of

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Speaker 3: the things that kept Steve Ross from pulling the plug

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Speaker 3: on McDaniel back then was he kept hearing from people

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Speaker 3: this guy's going to be a great head coach in

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Speaker 3: his second when he gets his second chance. And I

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Speaker 3: think Ross sort of thought to himself, well, why would

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Speaker 3: we fire him then? Why don't we give him a

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Speaker 3: second chance now and see how he does? And so

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Speaker 3: I think giving him that opportunity has given him some

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Speaker 3: new life.

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Speaker 2: And my guess would be, this is just a guess.

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Speaker 3: My guess would be they hire a new general manager,

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Speaker 3: they pair him with their cap guy, who now is

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Speaker 3: in a.

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Speaker 2: Little bit of an elevated role in Brandon Shore.

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Speaker 3: And then Mike McDaniel goes into twenty twenty six under

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Speaker 3: evaluation and.

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Speaker 2: Let's see what you got, TUA.

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Speaker 3: That's the twenty six is the last year of guaranteed

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Speaker 3: money in his contract, so they aren't married to TUA

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Speaker 3: beyond twenty twenty six, and it kind of gives them

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Speaker 3: a new general manager, a chance to come in work

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Speaker 3: with brendon Shore again, a guy who's very close to

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Speaker 3: ownership there, work under the president, Tom Garfinkel, and with

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Speaker 3: Ross and his son in law, and you get to

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Speaker 3: see now what that new setup looks.

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Speaker 2: Like and how Mike McDaniel fits into it. You go

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Speaker 2: forward from there, and I.

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Speaker 3: Think you got to give Ross some credit here, having

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Speaker 3: patients with McDaniel when he got rid of the general

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Speaker 3: manager certainly.

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Speaker 2: Seems so paid off.

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Speaker 1: Albert Breer on a Monday Monday morning quarterback, Thanks Albert Azolas.

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks Colin.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of these coaches, Brandon Staley got a

470
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Speaker 1: little stubborn. You certain coaches like this is who I am,

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Speaker 1: this is what I am. I'm going to be right.

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Speaker 1: You got to give the Miami guy credit. He takes

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Speaker 1: a step back and says, you know what, we gotta

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Speaker 1: be a little bit more physical. We can't rely on TUA.

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Speaker 1: The weather's now lousy, and they look like a different team.

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Speaker 1: They have been running the football. I actually think it's

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Speaker 1: going to be a really competitive game. They got into

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh I think it was like Saturday and they had

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Speaker 1: a late night practice. They're all playing in the snow,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, exactly, that's what you gotta do.

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Speaker 1: Away welcome back. I'll say you New York football is

497
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Speaker 1: an absolute hazmats bill. It's awful. The coordinators for the

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Speaker 1: LA teams, I mean, Jesse Mintter and Chris Shula are

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Speaker 1: better than the head coaches in New York. They're just

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Speaker 1: I mean, New York can't get football right. I mean

501
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn, he fied Steve Wilkes. Well, Steve Wilkes was

502
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Speaker 1: a bounce around the NFL guy, Like this is the

503
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Speaker 1: New York Jets. Like Steve Wilkes was the best candidate.

504
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: He'd been bounced out of San Francisco. Like they just

505
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Speaker 1: don't know what they're doing. It's bad. Ownership's not very good.

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00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: Good front offices aren't great. The coaches are over there.

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00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 1: Skis New York football. Chicago's got it going now. I

508
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: mean there's just a lot of the big cities in

509
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: the NFL, like finally got it all going. New York

510
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 1: has two gigantic tire fires. They can't keep Jackson Dart

511
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Speaker 1: out of the blue tent. Aaron Glenn, I mean the defense.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was a defensive coach. They just awful.

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Speaker 1: Jmack with the News, No, no.

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Speaker 2: This is the.

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Speaker 6: I'm such an egomaniac that would anytime you take shots

516
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Speaker 6: at the Jets, I feel personally aggrieved, like you're just

517
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 6: dogging me out. It's it is bad. We are down bad.

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Speaker 6: You know who's not right now is the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 5: They are on.

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Speaker 6: Top of the world, leading the division. And I had

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Speaker 6: to triple check this stat.

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Speaker 5: Are you ready for this?

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Speaker 6: Mike Tomlin hosts the Dolphins tonight Monday Night Football. He

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Speaker 6: is twenty two and zero at home on Monday Night football.

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Speaker 5: That is unbelievable.

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Speaker 6: Uh, there's a lot of noise about Tomlin's future in Pittsburgh,

527
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Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers. All he's doing is raising Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 7: Every team is looking for that special sauce of a

529
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Speaker 7: coach who can lead and be consistent and and you know,

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Speaker 7: be involved, understand how to delegate, lead when it needs

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Speaker 7: to be done, and uh, you know, I have a

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Speaker 7: unique perspective, and guys who played elsewhere have a nique

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Speaker 7: perspective coming in here. But the guys that are here

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Speaker 7: should understand how special, uh it is to have a

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Speaker 7: guy like that lead the team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I kind of feel like all Steeter seasons look

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Speaker 1: the same. I I love what's happening with Miami right now.

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Speaker 1: I'd probably take I think it's a great story. Usually

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Speaker 1: what I don't like as interim coaches, I like when

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Speaker 1: you're like, no, we're gonna just stay with this coach

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Speaker 1: and and very rarely do they turn it around Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm getting because week to week,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Aaron will be fine, but week to week

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Speaker 1: kind of you get a differ different teams.

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Speaker 6: So I'm surprised to hear hear you saying nice things

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Speaker 6: about Mike McDaniel.

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Speaker 2: Boy.

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Speaker 6: When they were down bad at like one in five,

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00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 6: they look you were hammering that guy.

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Speaker 5: You like him now? Huh?

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00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: Well, I like that. Somebody said, looked in the mirror,

552
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: own their stuff, and course corrected. I'm not into rigid people.

553
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: He obviously said, let's stop this charade. Leaning on to them.

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Speaker 1: We're going to be physical and run the football they have.

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Speaker 1: They look different.

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Speaker 6: A Chan looks like he's a go and the young kid,

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Speaker 6: Jalen Wright has some pop. This was three and a

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Speaker 6: half last week. You and I got three and a half.

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00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 6: It's a three now. I don't love it as much.

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Speaker 2: TJ.

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Speaker 6: Watt officially out and it will be under twenty degrees tonight.

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Speaker 5: But I'm sure you saw over the weekend.

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Speaker 6: Miami went early to Pittsburgh and I think Friday night

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Speaker 6: or Saturday night they were in the stadium with the

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Speaker 6: snow on the ground practicing. Yep, Mike McDaniel, he's all

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Speaker 6: grown up, right. We like that all right, let's move

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Speaker 6: on to let's stay in the AFC North and go

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Speaker 6: to Joe. Listen, I think this is going to be

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Speaker 6: the topic DuJour of the offseason. Forget fixing the Chiefs.

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Speaker 6: What do we do with Joe Burrow? And I know

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Speaker 6: Bengals fans say there's no way we're losing him. Colin,

572
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 6: you texted me yesterday. They look like they quit and

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Speaker 6: I'm one thousand percent behind you. It's interesting that the team,

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Speaker 6: I mean, Jamar Chase had a bad early drop. The

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Speaker 6: team would quit a few days after Burrow made some

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Speaker 6: I'm not having fun react comments.

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Speaker 5: This is this is.

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Speaker 6: Like you think the Chiefs are a big rebuild. One

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Speaker 6: of the lanes have nothing.

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Speaker 1: One of the linebackers for the Ravens was quoted after

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Speaker 1: the game saying they weren't ready to play first series.

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Speaker 1: I mean classic Bengals. It snowed in Cincinnati and the

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Speaker 1: NFL owner wouldn't clear the seats, which goes against NFL policy.

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Speaker 1: They're just I mean, it's I feel I was thinking

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Speaker 1: about this yesterday. I mean, I always say, Chase great management,

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00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: not money. You can make money if you're talented in

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Speaker 1: any field. Joe Burrow was essentially trapped. Trap with a coach,

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00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: trap with a bad old line, trap with this ownership.

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00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: He's trapped. There's nothing he can do. I mean, what

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00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: are you gonna do? Demand a trade?

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Speaker 5: Well, we'll speculate a second.

592
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 6: But here is Burrow officially after the Bengals were eliminated.

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Speaker 5: From playoff contention. Here he is talking to the media.

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Speaker 6: They haven't been a.

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00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 2: Good football team. You know, bad football. Bad football teams.

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Speaker 8: Do losing things. And you know, if you're if you're

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Speaker 8: wanting to compete for championships and game in the playoffs,

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Speaker 8: then number one, your quarterback has to play better than

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Speaker 8: than I did today.

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Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, so over the weekend, and I don't usually

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Speaker 6: take a lot of social media stuff at all.

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Speaker 2: Somebody said to me.

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Speaker 5: J Mac asked Colin this, what if the Bears?

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Speaker 6: And Ben Johnson said, Hey, can we get Joe Burrow

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Speaker 6: for Caleb Williams and a couple of draft balls? No,

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Speaker 6: I know that sounds crazy, but hold on, hold on.

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00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 5: The Bengals are cheap.

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00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 6: Caleb Williams is on his rookie deal and he ain't

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Speaker 6: getting no Patrick Mahomes jock challenge.

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Speaker 1: I'd in the world the Bears are on fire. Burrow

611
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Speaker 1: can't stay healthy.

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Speaker 6: Well, he fits that offense, read and react, release quickly,

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Speaker 6: none of his backyard football stuff.

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Speaker 1: No, you're you're you're not gonna do that. I mean,

615
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: people are into Caleb Williams. Turn on the talk ready

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Speaker 1: on this town. People. You want a guy that's had

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Speaker 1: three surgeries and is super expensive or a guy in

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Speaker 1: the cheap for the next four years. Look, it's here.

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Speaker 1: You're not getting out of that game.

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Speaker 5: Okay. I thought you would take that in the heart.

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Speaker 1: No, God, no, Caleb Williams right now is more dynamic,

622
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Speaker 1: not as accurate, but he's That throw to DJ Moore

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Speaker 1: yesterday was one of the throws of the year.

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Speaker 5: That was a luckbox. Come on.

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Speaker 6: That should have been picked off by two different guys. God, wait, anute,

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Speaker 6: Really you don't think Ben Johnson would be like, yes,

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Speaker 6: I'll take that instantly.

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Speaker 5: No, wow, okay, okay, I'm shocked. All right, let's move

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Speaker 5: to the final story. Colin and it's Shiner Sanders.

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Speaker 6: You got an up close look at him in Chicago yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Not good.

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Speaker 5: Duh, that's a perfect summation.

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Speaker 6: Here Here is the past to Jerry, Judy boy, Jerry

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Speaker 6: Judy can't catch a cold. Oh my gosh, Jalen Johnson

635
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 6: with a great pick there. The other two picks were

636
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 6: not as good for Shador. He threw three in the game.

637
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 6: Here he is talking about afterward the interception to Judy.

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Speaker 9: It is what it is. I'm and I wonder, you know,

639
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 9: ever kick somebody down when you're down, you know, like

640
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 9: he understands that's a big play, and I'm sure he's

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00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 9: hard on hisself, so it's no need for me to

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00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 9: be extra and do that.

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00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, that was a bad spot. They're out manned.

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00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: Green Bay and Chicago are vying for the division lead

645
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: in Detroit, so you had a very motivated Chicago Bears

646
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: team with a lot more quality players. But it is

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Speaker 1: interesting when you see Schadur and Caleb on the field

648
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: at the same time. There's the A plus pro prospect

649
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: and to be possbacks and I love the.

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Speaker 6: Same you know, our colleague Chris Brussard, obviously we love him.

651
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, he thought.

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00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 6: Shadur would be better than Caleb, Like come on, like,

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Speaker 6: Schadur marginal starter at this stage, and this idea that

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Speaker 6: he could open campus their number one quarterback stop it folks,

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Speaker 6: that's definitely not happening under any circumstances. And for people saying,

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Speaker 6: can you believe they're still bagging on Kevin Stefanski Colin

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Speaker 6: Browns fans, I think they're what my kids say, de Lulu,

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Speaker 6: they're just they're losing their mind here. They think Shadour's

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Speaker 6: the answer, and we just got to get rid of

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Speaker 6: Stefanski and everything will be fine.

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Speaker 5: You watch that game like I don't see it. Man,

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Speaker 5: Now go.

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Speaker 1: Ahead, fire Stefanski. He'll get hired in Cincinnati and beat

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Speaker 1: you for the next ten Yearsbody wants that job.

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Speaker 5: By the way, is that even attractive job?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, if you're a coordinator and you get

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Speaker 1: seven times the salary, it's and you get Joe Burrow and.

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Speaker 6: You'll be back on the street in eighteen months with

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Speaker 6: a lot more money in your pocket.

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Speaker 1: No, because the Bengals do not fire coaches.

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Speaker 5: No, this is the Browns. Though the Browns are t's you.

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Speaker 5: They're moving off guys instant.

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Speaker 1: That's true. J mckle.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the

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Speaker 2: Heard Line News.

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Speaker 1: Did you for the record. Okc's big winning Street got

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Speaker 1: snapped last night by Wendy who came off the bench.

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Speaker 1: Wendy was unbelievable. The Spurs won that game. So Okac

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Speaker 1: is uh I said this last week the NBA paralyzed

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Speaker 1: by dynasties and tanking. Well, they've got one in ok

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Speaker 1: Se potentially by the end of this year, at least

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Speaker 1: Baseball's version. The Dodgers are interesting. I mean, I've never

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Speaker 1: seen a team in the NBA in my life as

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Speaker 1: great and dominant as Okac. And unless you're a die hard,

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Speaker 1: none of the casuals care, none care, So you can be.

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Speaker 1: You can be like anti dynasty. They happen in skiing, soccer, tennis, golf,

687
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Speaker 1: college football, pro football, women's basketball. Get over this fear

688
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Speaker 1: of dynasties. The NBA probably has another. What would you

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Speaker 1: rather have a Shach and Kobe dynasty, a big trade

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Speaker 1: with Orlando, or a kd dynasty, a big you know,

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Speaker 1: a big move by the worst. For this one, dynasties

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Speaker 1: are gonna happen. You just hope they're more interesting than

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Speaker 1: the Tim Duncan dynasty, which which felt kind of sleepy,

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Speaker 1: but are going to happen in sports because people are

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Speaker 1: not even By the.

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Speaker 6: Way, did you watch the end of that game that

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Speaker 6: was a hell of a basketball game.

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Speaker 1: Are winning, They're good by seventeen a game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I think the Spurs match up great with them and

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Speaker 6: San Antonio wembin Yama late in that game. Who hey,

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Speaker 6: speaking of dynasties, doesn't Wembin Yama have the potential to

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Speaker 6: have one. They're not trading Castle, They're not trading Harper.

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Speaker 6: They look really good man. I nick Spurs tomorrow night,

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Speaker 6: NBA Cup Final lock in Cowherd.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and Noone Easter Not a em Pacific on Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 6: App Big East, Big Ten Battle on Fox. College Troops

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Speaker 6: Friday as Villanova takes on Wisconsin. It all tips off

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Speaker 6: Friday night, eight.

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Speaker 5: Eastern on Fox.

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Speaker 1: So you know, yesterday, I really do think between Brabile

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Speaker 1: and Josh McDaniels, you have a really elite staff, you

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Speaker 1: know it just they out scheme the Bills staff so badly.

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Speaker 1: They jumped out to a twenty one nothing lead, and

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Speaker 1: they beat him earlier this year in Buffalo, and then

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, I mean his December numbers. He steps into

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Speaker 1: a phone booth outcome Superman in December twenty sixty eight

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Speaker 1: percent completion percentage, sixty eight total touchdowns, nine interceptions. This

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Speaker 1: is in December, since twenty twenty. This is what he does.

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Speaker 1: And I mean it's it's we joke about Superman. But

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Speaker 1: if this keeps going, DC Comics will sue for infringement.

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Speaker 1: This guy is just absolutely the best football player on

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Speaker 1: the planet. And they're four and oh. When they've scored

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Speaker 1: thirty plus points, they have to regularly they get out schemed.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I just I watched this and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I want to see it in the playoffs. I know

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Speaker 1: what they are now. Now here's Josh after another come

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Speaker 1: from behind shootout win.

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Speaker 10: It's the love that each man in that locker room

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Speaker 10: has for each other, the willingness to put their body

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Speaker 10: on the line in order to not let their teammates down.

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Speaker 10: And I think that's that's the driving force. We're not

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Speaker 10: out of it. You know, We're going to continue to fight,

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Speaker 10: one play at a time, no matter what the score is.

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Speaker 10: If it's in the third quarter, it's in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 10: whatever it is. You know, if we've got a chance

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Speaker 10: and we got the ball, you know, we feel like

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Speaker 10: we like our chances.

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Speaker 1: They've only had two receivers yesterday catch a pass, very

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Speaker 1: Allen and tight end dependent. The AFC is not as

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Speaker 1: good at the top, but you have no Ma homes

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. No Burrow. Herbert's got a horrible offensive line.

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Speaker 1: The Texans are not full of a lot of offensive firepower.

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Speaker 1: So I think all of us are looking at it thinking,

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Speaker 1: can one player and a couple of nice pieces around

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Speaker 1: him get to a super Bowl? This is the year

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Speaker 1: to do it. This is the year to get to

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Speaker 1: a super Bowl. Whoever comes out of the NFC I

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Speaker 1: think is the better team, but Denvery yesterday proving they belong.

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Speaker 1: So Buffalo is going to have to go somewhere. See

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville can run the ball. That's not good for Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: New England Traveon Henderson had a couple of huge runs yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Why I think a lot of it is Buffalo doesn't

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Speaker 1: defend the run particularly well. Now. Albert Breer took the

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Speaker 1: optimistic angle on this Bills team going forward.

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Speaker 3: They aren't panicking when they're down twenty one to nothing

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Speaker 3: because they have the best player in the planet, and

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Speaker 3: it gives the coaches and the players the leeway to

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Speaker 3: fix things on the fly, which I think has really

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Speaker 3: empowered them and almost become the identity of the team.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure they're good enough right now to to

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Speaker 3: run the table in the playoffs and win it all,

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Speaker 3: but I think this is a team that's getting better,

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Speaker 3: and I think Allen's allowed them and bought them time

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Speaker 3: to get better. And so this may look like a

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Speaker 3: different team five or six weeks from now than it

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Speaker 3: does now, because I think it looks like a different

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Speaker 3: team now than it did a month ago.

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Speaker 1: And they do get ed Oliver Back, who on that

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Speaker 1: defensive front can be kind of a splash player, but

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Speaker 1: he's their best player. But just watching this thing yesterday

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Speaker 1: and I'm thinking to myself when they lead twenty one

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Speaker 1: to nothing in twenty four to seven, I'm like, New

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Speaker 1: England's still in a rebuild and they're missing two starters

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Speaker 1: in the left side of their offensive line. This can't

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Speaker 1: be happening, you know. It's funny. I was thinking about

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Speaker 1: this when this game went on. Who would you really

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Speaker 1: be disappointed in if they got knocked out first game

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. And even though I think the Bears

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Speaker 1: have more good players than Denver certainly does. I think

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Speaker 1: it tells you where we are with Josh Allen. This

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Speaker 1: would be the team. I think with a limited roster

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Speaker 1: we would all go, Okay, you got replace the coach.

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Speaker 1: We wouldn't do that in Chicago. We wouldn't do that.

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Speaker 1: In Denver. We wouldn't do that. In Jacksonville. We wouldn't

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Speaker 1: do that. In New England. We wouldn't do that with Hardball.

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Speaker 1: We wouldn't do it with Demiko Ryans. But Buffalo despite

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Speaker 1: because that's they wasted earlier opportunities when they had a

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Speaker 1: better roster and they weren't paying Josh. So if you

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Speaker 1: look at those AFC teams, what is the one team

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Speaker 1: that if they lost their first game, you would say

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Speaker 1: time for a coaching change. And that's why, A you

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Speaker 1: got to strike when the iron's hot, and B you

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Speaker 1: have to take advantage of those tiny windows in the

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Speaker 1: NFL when you have a great quarterback and a really

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Speaker 1: good roster. I don't think Buffalo does so. I mean

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Speaker 1: Trevion Henderson a couple of huge runs they escaped yesterday.

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Speaker 1: If you go back to twenty twenty and look at

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen's numbers in December I mean, he's got so

802
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Speaker 1: much horsepower. I mean, look at those numbers. Sorry to

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Speaker 1: the radio audience, but this isn't the worst weather. This

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Speaker 1: is in Buffalo. You don't playing at Dome. That's a

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Speaker 1: lot of games at twenty one degrees and windy. He

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Speaker 1: can't wait for that new stadium that cuts down on that.

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Speaker 1: I'll say my feeling is Denver and the Houston Texans today.

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Speaker 1: I would take in the AFC Championship.

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Speaker 6: Did you see that matchup hypothetically right now? Be Texans

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Speaker 6: at Patriots in the first round. Who you got in

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Speaker 6: that one?

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Speaker 1: Let me sleep on it.

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Speaker 6: Well, I remember first year quarterbacks in the playoffs or

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Speaker 6: first time quarterbacks in the playoffs often struggle. Drake May

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Speaker 6: Caleb Williams careful, yeah, Pour three