1 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: What's that at the bed. Hey, I'm really sure it's dead. 2 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: It's coming this way. 3 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I said byrons. 4 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: Hey boo, it's me Ros dress for less. I hope 5 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: you are having a wonderful day to day as good 6 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: as possible. I mean, I don't know if you sold 7 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: this headline, but there are some people that are stuck 8 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: in a haunted castle. 9 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 3: This is well. 10 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: This article was on all different kinds of media outlets, 11 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: but here's one from Variety dot com. It says Bolivian 12 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 1: orchestra stranded in a haunted German castle surrounded by wait 13 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: for it, wolves during the pandemic. I feel terrible for 14 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 1: these people. So this Bolivian pan flute orchestra with filled 15 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: with young people, I believe I read in one of 16 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: these articles that think they're about twenty of them, and 17 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: they were supposed to do a concert in Germany, but 18 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: then Germany shut down, they were put on lockdown, and 19 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: then Bolivia, where they're from, they weren't able to go back. 20 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: So they've been I mean, this was posted on the 21 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: twenty fourth and it says for the past seventy three 22 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: days they have been in this giant castle. But it 23 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: is believed that it might be haunted by Frederick the Great, 24 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: who is somebody that I actually I looked up and honey, 25 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: Frederick is serving some tight curls on the side. Frederick's 26 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: got some iconic hair. But there's a quote from this article. Well, 27 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: it says the ancient estate was home to German royalty 28 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: dating back to the fifteen hundreds, including Frederick the Great, 29 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: who the group jokes is haunting the castle halls. We 30 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: all joke that Frederick's ghost is following us and trying 31 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: to trip us up. I don't usually believe in such things, 32 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: but it does feel as if there are ghosts on 33 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: the grounds, says Kahmed mar Tayla, a twenty year old 34 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: member of the orchestra. So you know, if they don't 35 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 1: want to deal with the ghosts inside, there are twenty 36 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: three packs of wolves surrounding the place. So I'm going 37 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 1: to keep them in my heart and sending them lots 38 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: of love, and I hope that it's not too spooky 39 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: for them. That sounds it's like a movie, first of all, 40 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 1: and it also sounds like do you remember that show 41 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: the Real World? It's like, this is the true story 42 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: of twenty pan flute musicians picked to live, well, not 43 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: really picked, stranded to live in a haunted castle to 44 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: find out what happens when people stop being polite and 45 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: start getting ghosted. So I would watch that show, but 46 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: you know what else, you should watch some fantastic horror 47 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: movies by one of our guests today. We actually have 48 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: two guests today and these are the last two interviews 49 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: that actually did in studio back in beautiful Los Angeles, California, 50 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: in person, and we've gotten a little bit closer to 51 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: some new projects that would be coming out from our 52 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: first guest, who is a great horror director. His name 53 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: is Adam Roubatel, and you know his work like The 54 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: Taking of Deborah Logan. He has a film called Escape 55 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: Room and he's working on the sequel. He did Insidious, 56 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: the Last Keys, just some great films that I love, 57 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: so I'm excited to talk to him. He's got really 58 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: interesting insight on the paranormal. So let's listen to that 59 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: first interview. Here is Adam Rubatel on with the show. 60 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,239 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Adam, thank you so much for making 61 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: time you because you've been busy in post production. You're 62 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: working on the second Escape Room, right, Well. 63 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're knee deep in post on escape room too. 64 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 2: It seems like the world is collapsing into a world 65 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: war ze zombie pandemic with the coronavirus sweeping the world. 66 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's scary times. 67 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: It's honestly locked it. I'm sorry what I was. 68 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 2: Just some glad I'm locked in a post production cave 69 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: right now. 70 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: So but you yourself, you've never experienced a paranormal. 71 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah. 72 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 2: I mean I was raised on a lot of ghost stories. 73 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 2: My grandmother was a very smart, progressive person. I mean, 74 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: she was raised Catholic, but she wasn't superstitious at all. 75 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 2: And she's the smartest person I've ever met, really, And 76 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 2: she lived in the middle of the lake in New Hampshire, 77 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 2: and she saw ghosts quite a bit. And you know, 78 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: I would say, oh, okay, that's my grandmother being weird. 79 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 2: But like one of the famous stories is my cousin John. 80 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 2: She lived in She lives in a lake and it's 81 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 2: very seasonal, so she was the only one who lived 82 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: there year round. And my cousin John, who was like 83 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 2: a vice president of melancorre very buttoned down business guy. 84 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: You know, he was up there raking leaves one day 85 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 2: and he saw a guy sitting in her neighbor's window 86 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: in the front porch, and he went into the house 87 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: and he was all freaked out. He said, dded, you know, 88 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 2: there's there's a guy sitting in you know, her house 89 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 2: is boarded up, it's it's the winter, Like, who is he? 90 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 2: She said, calm down, down, and she went over to 91 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 2: a drawer and gave him this little card and there 92 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 2: was a picture of the guy on the card. 93 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 3: She said, is that him? 94 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's the guy sitting in the window. She said, 95 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 2: turn the card over and there was a memorial card 96 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: for his funeral. She said, Oh, that's still he just 97 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: sits in that window. It's his favorite seat. And so 98 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 2: she had a lot of those kinds of events and 99 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 2: that were corroborated by other family people, you know, people 100 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 2: that don't necessarily believe in the stories that we all 101 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: know and love, and so stuff like that that happened. 102 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 2: And you know, she she had a she had a 103 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: Zaria board, which is sort of like a Ouiji board 104 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: on steroids that she and my father and you know, 105 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 2: their friends would play in the heart of winter, you know, 106 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: and and they would go up to this house in 107 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 2: the middle of the woods, and this board would be 108 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: sort of they would obsess about playing it sort of 109 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 2: like a drug and would call to them, and it 110 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: started the entity and the board started to materialize itself physically. 111 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: One day, in a room full of people, they said, 112 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 2: where's Sheiba. Shiba was a call dog that my grandmother 113 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 2: had just passed, and it said the plan chet spelled out, 114 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 2: look to the fire and all the logs and the 115 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: and the fireplace fell into the perfect shape of a colliague. 116 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 117 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it knew things about like my my grandfather, 118 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: who on my mother's side was very cynical and you know, 119 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: had been through World War two and it didn't believe 120 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: any of it, thought it was just all bullshit. And 121 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: he said, you know, asked that thing what my war 122 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: Boddy's name was, you know, and it's because only he 123 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: knew the answer, and it spelled out p h I 124 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: s H fish. He went white and then never stepped 125 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 2: foot in my grandmother's house again because it had this 126 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 2: preternatural knowledge. So, you know, in the end, it was 127 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: like seven years of just this crazy build up of 128 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: this level and energy, and by the end my grandmother 129 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: actually called Ed Warren. He was on a he was 130 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 2: on a TV program, I Forget in the seventies talk show, 131 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: and she called in and they warned her about it. 132 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: And then the church, the local Catholic church, came and 133 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 2: sent a woman to bless the house and tongues and 134 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: burn the board and took hours for this little piece 135 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 2: of wood to burn. So so yeah, those are the 136 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: kind of stories I was raised on, and my grandmother 137 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: would scare the shit out of me and my friends, 138 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: and you know, so I saw the power of u 139 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 2: of that as a as a as a storytelling medium, 140 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 2: and I was always excited, excited to I mean, I 141 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 2: have studied parasychology, I've you know, I've done all the 142 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: kind of stuff you do as a kid trying to 143 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: scare yourself. But I haven't had a personal experience with 144 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: a ghost, like she's passed away now, and I've I 145 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 2: wish she would visit me, you know, I'm waiting for 146 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 2: that that weird lucid dream where she's in the room 147 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 2: or something, but she just hasn't. Maybe she's too. 148 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: Busy, you know, would you go ghost hunting? 149 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: I I did the Coronado thing where we went to 150 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: that famous haunted hotel room in the Hotel Coronado the 151 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: night and we're looking for you know, cold spots and 152 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 2: vortex and stuff. 153 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, there's a woman that you what, there's a 154 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: woman that haunts it. 155 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've done that. We've done the cornetto, We've done 156 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: the Queen Mary, you know, the obligatory Queen Mary trip. 157 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: Do you think that Queen Mary is still haunted? Because 158 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: I've been there and I don't. I didn't see any ghosts. 159 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 2: Well, look, I mean, you know, I Disney owns it now, right, 160 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: so it's like it's become like a theme park. But look, 161 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 2: I believe I definitely believe that. I was talking to 162 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 2: actually funny enough of an exact film exactly yesterday because 163 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: he thinks his house is haunted, and I haven't. I 164 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 2: believe that the brain, like I believe that a horrific 165 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: accident or murder, maybe it leaves an imprint in the 166 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: environment like a stray radio wave, and then maybe you 167 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 2: or I, who might be receptive to this this signal, 168 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 2: are going to see that and experience it. What I 169 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 2: have a hard time believing this is just personally, I 170 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 2: don't you know, is that our soul maintain some cohesion 171 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 2: after death, like I would love to see my grandmother 172 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: and some you know, housey and field of wheat. But 173 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. I have a hard time believing that. 174 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 2: But I do believe that the brain maybe perceives sayings, 175 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: whether it's acts of violence or you know. I mean 176 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: I studied jb Ryan, who is like sort of like 177 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 2: what Alfred Kinsey was to sex study, he is to parapsychology. 178 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: And there's this thing called a crisis apparition, which is 179 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 2: like a young wife wakes up and she sees her 180 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: husband standing over the end of her bed, shivering, and 181 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 2: then she calls the army brig and sure enough he 182 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 2: has pneumonia. So we you know, telepathy, and there's things 183 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: that we don't understand about what the brain can do. 184 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: So that I buy into, you know, I have another 185 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 2: famous case, remember hearing a couple like in the south 186 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 2: of London. They moved into a flat and they saw 187 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: they kept seeing this lady at night like vacuuming in 188 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 2: their house and they were like really freaked out and 189 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 2: they wanted to move. 190 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 3: And research it's something good. What's that? 191 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, at least she was vacuuming, right, and not eating 192 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 2: their food. But like they did some research and she 193 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 2: the woman was in a coma forty miles away and 194 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 2: she she was projecting her consciousness into this house, like 195 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 2: astro projection out of like insidious on some level. So 196 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 2: there's a lot we don't know, you know, And. 197 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: Uh, what do you think about possession? 198 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 2: What do I think about what? 199 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: I'm sorry possession because I love your film taking of 200 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: Deborah Logan. 201 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the older Look, you know, when I 202 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: was bad as a kid, my mother would write on 203 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 2: soap on the mirror and say, like you're getting closer 204 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: to me every day, and like we pretend she was 205 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 2: the devil. And I have a heart, you know. I mean, look, 206 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 2: I think humanity. The older I get, the more I'm 207 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 2: just I despise humanity, frankly. And I think that the 208 00:11:54,600 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 2: idea of some ancient, you know, demonic, non corporeal entity possessing, 209 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 2: I think is a bit silly personally. Do I love 210 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 2: possession stories? And do I hear do I read about 211 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: a father who's killed his kids and mother and wife 212 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 2: and want to believe that some ancient deity made him 213 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: do those things? Yeah, but I have a hard time 214 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: believing that some bronze aged fiction that we've created. I'm 215 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 2: sort of like a recovering Catholic at this point in 216 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 2: my life, and not atheist, but an agnostic, and so demonology. 217 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 2: I love the mythology. I'm writing a movie right now 218 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 2: that sort of deals with it, but I don't know 219 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 2: that I believe it myself personally. 220 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: That's what I've been struggling with. I've talked about this 221 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: almost every episode lately. I've been thinking so much about 222 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: how I grew up Catholic and so much fear of demons, 223 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 1: and now I'm not really sure how I feel about that. 224 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, the devil didn't really exist if you 225 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: look through the Bible. It was like a really recent 226 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 2: sort of development, and it really the idea of Lucifer 227 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: the Light Bearer. He was, you know, he's a fallen angel. 228 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 2: And then you know, really it didn't until the until 229 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 2: the like the Middle Ages, where they started to create 230 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 2: this sort of pagan idea of the devil. And but 231 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: if you look historically, I mean, you know, it's it's 232 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 2: and again it's like you go further back, I mean 233 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 2: Zerasterism and all these older religions, the Canaanites, Like, you know, 234 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 2: the Canaanites used to, uh do these child sacrifices molk 235 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 2: and they had this massive oven where they would throw 236 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 2: their you know, newborns into the fire, you know. And 237 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 2: so so the Bible is just only one of many 238 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: sources of demonology, you know, throughout history. But but again 239 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 2: it's like, I'm more afraid of you know, John Wayne Gacy, 240 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 2: uh than I am of Kazuzu. 241 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: Like you know, what about like curses because in so 242 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: many well not so many, but there's a handful of 243 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: paranormal movies that have alleged curses around them. What do 244 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: you think about that? Like the oh Man the Extra, 245 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: says Poulter, Guys. 246 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 2: You know, I think bad things happen to good people, 247 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 2: and it certainly seems more I don't I don't mean to, 248 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 2: you know, to say there's no magic in the world. 249 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: But you know, I think we're so hardwired as as 250 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: a species to look for patterns, right, so you know, 251 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 2: thunder eagles, lightning, a gral eagles, lion, and so I 252 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 2: think we look for patterns where they might not exist necessarily. 253 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 2: I like, so, I don't know, I do think that 254 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: there is a thing called karma, and you know, something's 255 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: come back to haunt you do. I think the little 256 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 2: girl from the Poltergeist movie was cursed. I mean, you know, 257 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,359 Speaker 2: I think that's more us. 258 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 3: Loving horror and loving the genre. 259 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 2: And then looking for it to try to make sense 260 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 2: out of something that seems kind of unsensible. And you know, 261 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 2: but but I don't know, I mean I don't know. 262 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, because it was it was Poulter guy and 263 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 2: what was the other or the other curse movies? 264 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: There's the omen the omen Yeah, the omens scary what 265 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: I was reading about it? Apparently there were uh two 266 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: or three plane crashes, two of them were struck by 267 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: lightning while uh while people involved in the film were 268 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: going to the set to work on it. Wow, Well, 269 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: we do this fun thing on the show. 270 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 3: Called EVP. 271 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: Or ev Please do you want to hear some ghost voices? 272 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 3: Sure, Okay, here's. 273 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: What we do. I go to the Internet and I 274 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: find EVPs. You know about. 275 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 3: EVPs, right, sure, yeah. 276 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: Electronic voice phenomenon. So I'll find an EVP from YouTube, 277 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: and then I want you to guess what the ghost 278 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: hunter believes these voices are saying. This first one comes 279 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: from someone on YouTube named Todd Sheldon, and it's at 280 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: the Tenny Gatehouse, which is in matthew In Massachusetts. Matthew 281 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: matthew In. Yeahs Methuen, Matheuen, I like matthew in. Okay, 282 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: tell me what you think they think this ghost is saying, 283 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: or what you think it's saying. Could you hear it? 284 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so garbily. 285 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: I know they usually are. Let's be honest. It's sort 286 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: of like a It sounds like a female talking very lightly. 287 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: I'll play it again. 288 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't really make out much. It sounds like 289 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 2: Charlie Brown's teacher, sort. 290 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 3: Of wah is it? 291 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: Well? You know which? Maybe she's the ghost of that schoolhouse. 292 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: Now I want to see there's your next movie? Okay, 293 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: here is it a Oh my god, that kind of 294 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: tickles b I'm a long faced ghost. See, I don't 295 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: want to play go away or d I saw the omen. 296 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 2: I'll go for the tickle. 297 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: Now it's I'm a long faced ghost. Wait, but now 298 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: that you hear the now that you know that, listen again, 299 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: do you hear it? 300 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 2: I'm a long faced ghost. I'm basically the basically the screen. 301 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: Mask exact ghost face. Yeah, okay, let's try another one. 302 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: This one comes from a listener. This is from Annie 303 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: and she wrote this is from I believe last week. 304 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: She said, This past weekend, we attended a ghost hunting 305 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: event hosted by the group from the ghost Hunter's TV 306 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: show at the Glenn Tavern Inn in Santa Paula. While 307 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,239 Speaker 1: in one of the most haunted rooms, I picked up 308 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: this EVP. We were using various pieces of equipment. One 309 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: of the people at the event kept referring to them 310 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: as toys, saying, you can play with this toy, wrap 311 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: your hands around it, and at the ten second mark 312 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: you could hear a voice whisper this. It's real quiet. 313 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: It's like a real creepy whisper. 314 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 4: An go. 315 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 3: Just once. 316 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 2: I want one of these ghosts to really articulate what 317 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 2: they're trying to communicate. 318 00:18:51,480 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: Seriously, I'll give you some options. Is it a boys 319 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: will be chiming in? B Always bring the toys in, cee, 320 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: toys make me silly or d let the bodies at 321 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: the floor. 322 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 2: Always bring the toys in. 323 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, always bring the toys in. 324 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 2: I mean, that's just creepy. 325 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: It is creepy. What scares you, you know? 326 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,239 Speaker 2: I really. We're working on a TV project right now 327 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 2: that I'm really excited about. Like the Taking of Deborah 328 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 2: Logan used Alzheimer's disease as a metaphor for possession, and 329 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 2: so I'm kind of in a the older I get 330 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 2: and kind of like in my middle aged like hypochondriac 331 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 2: phase is the more like health stuff and what the 332 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 2: body can do, it can freak me out. And we're 333 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,719 Speaker 2: working on a show now that deals with addiction as 334 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 2: sort of a metaphor for possession. 335 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 336 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: I've had I've had friends, you know, and and loved 337 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 2: ones who are struggling with like the possession of addiction, and. 338 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: Well people demons when they're talking about your addictions. 339 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and and so that so I I 340 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: like to really take real world stuff that's freaky and 341 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 2: then turn it on its head, you know. And when 342 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,479 Speaker 2: I'm in a you know, it's hard when you live 343 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 2: in a townhouse in Santa Monica to be thinking about ghosts. 344 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 2: But when you're in an older environment and you can 345 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 2: feel the history, That's why, like I love going to 346 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 2: Europe and you know, or from in the woods somewhere, 347 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 2: it's just you more in touch with that kind of stuff. Uh. 348 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 2: And you know, I've done so much research over the 349 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 2: years for my various projects. I mean, there's a I 350 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 2: was telling a friend yesterday, like, you know, the national 351 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 2: parks like Yellowstone and stuff, there's a worldwide phenomenon where 352 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 2: people just vanish to just go missing, you know. And 353 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 2: there's hundreds of hundreds of these cases across the national 354 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 2: parks where people are out on a hike and they 355 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 2: turn around and their wife or daughter is just gone 356 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 2: and there's no accounting for them. So that's kind of freaky. Yeah, 357 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 2: So it takes a lot to scare me. You know. 358 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:17,479 Speaker 2: I can't think of the last movie that genuinely freaked 359 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 2: me out where I was like on the edge of 360 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 2: my seat. But I also know how the sausage is 361 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: made as a filmmaker, so I'm often thinking like, oh, 362 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 2: that was a crane shot or you know. So it's 363 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 2: hard to really genuinely get scared now. It's more like 364 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 2: a bit of a shock kind of thing. 365 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 3: Uh. 366 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 2: I'm sorry that's a long winded answer. 367 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: No, No, totally, I'm so curious about that. Well, let 368 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: me before I let you go, can I read you 369 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: a ghost story real quick? 370 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:46,719 Speaker 2: Sure? 371 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: Okay, let's see if this will scare you. This comes 372 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: from a listener of our show. This comes from j 373 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: L and he says, Hi, roz chiw listen. My partner 374 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: and I have been living in our newly built home 375 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: for almost year. Nothing has been going on until recently. 376 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: This past holiday season, I bought my friend a home 377 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: security camera that I took advantage of buying during Black 378 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: Friday season. Ever since he installed those cameras, girls, some 379 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: shit has been going down in his home. I feel 380 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: as if something may have attached to me when I 381 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: visited his home, or either the land I'm staying on 382 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: is haunted. Anyways, one morning, I was laying in bed. 383 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: My boyfriend usually leaves for work at three point thirty. 384 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: I briefly remember him leaving as yeah, oh my god, 385 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: three thirty, that's so early. Also haunted time. I briefly 386 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: exactly what is his boyfriend? A witch? I briefly remembered 387 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: him leaving as he always kisses goodbye. Sometimes I see 388 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: him out to his car. But this usual morning, I 389 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 1: was too tired and decided to stay in bed. The 390 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: bedroom door is always cracked so the kitchen light can 391 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: illuminate the bedroom as soon as I open my eyes, 392 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: a white figure with an arm extended stepped halfway into 393 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: the doorway to push open the door, turned around before 394 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: walking back into the kitchen. Bitch, listen. I laid there 395 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: thinking what the fuck just happened. I checked my phone 396 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: and realized it was ten minutes before four AM. My 397 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 1: boyfriend usually texts me a little after four that he 398 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: has arrived at work. I immediately texted him and asked 399 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: him if he opened the door to let our fur 400 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: babies into the bedroom. I knew this figure couldn't be 401 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: him because it was all white and he wears a 402 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: company uniform. He responded, denying it was him. I was 403 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 1: left gagging. Now, mind you, before this experience happened, I 404 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: usually stay up later than my boyfriend due to my 405 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,479 Speaker 1: work schedule. As I was laying on the couch watching 406 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: my show one night, my pooch started growling at the 407 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: hallway leading to the guest rooms and the guest bath. 408 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: Nothing was there. She growled for a good minute. I 409 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: already knew what time it was because I've seen too 410 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: many horror movies just recently. A few weeks ago, I 411 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 1: was at work and my boyfriend was home. He texted 412 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: me a bit before midnight saying he believes the shadow 413 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: revealed itself. I came home and asked him about it, 414 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: and he said he was awoken by my dog growling 415 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: at the foot of the bed. Why do a lot 416 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: of this spooky shit happen at the foot of the bed. Anyway, 417 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: he saw a figure for a good minute. It wasn't 418 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: a full figure. He saw what appears to be letters 419 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: he could barely make out in the torso area, and 420 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: the rest of the figure was like TV static. Once 421 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: this figure disappeared, my dog stopped growling. Girl, I've been 422 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: burning sage like hell and still no luck. Those had 423 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: been my first experiences in my new home. I always 424 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: said I would move out if I ever lived in 425 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: a haunt house, But bitch, I am tied up in 426 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: a mortgage and it is easier said than done. Okay, well, 427 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: now I'm terrified for Jayl. I hope everything's so fakey. 428 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I would be so fast out of there. 429 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that's crazy. 430 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 1: See, but someone like you, would you use that, Like, 431 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: if you were actually in that dilemma, would you be like, Okay, 432 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: this is an opportunity to maybe get some material. 433 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 2: You know my mom, My mom's had two strokes, and we, 434 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 2: like my dad was watching her being our caregiver. So 435 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 2: we just set off cameras and make sure she's hasn't 436 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 2: fallen or something. And sometimes the camera's trip by themselves, 437 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 2: like you know, and so like you're like, what's in 438 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 2: the bedroom right now? Why did the camera just trip? 439 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 2: Why did the detect motion? And but I guess what 440 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 2: I'm getting at is I wouldn't have been freaked out 441 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 2: if I didn't have the camera tripping, you know what 442 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 2: I mean. So I can't speak to this year. I 443 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 2: can't speak to your listeners like full on apparition that 444 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 2: they saw. I know that sleep paralysis can cause really 445 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 2: crazy shit to happen, you know, and you can be 446 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 2: you can be in a state of like lucid dreaming 447 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 2: where you wake up and your body's still paralyzed and 448 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 2: you can see some shit and that that's a very 449 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 2: real medical condition. But you know, look, I mean, if 450 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 2: I saw an apparition genuinely and sounds like this, this 451 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 2: this listener really really believes what they saw, I would 452 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 2: do research, you know what I mean. I would get 453 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 2: right in there and see if anybody died in the house. 454 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 2: I would, you know, howls the house. I mean, and 455 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: if there's if there's no there there, then there has 456 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 2: to be some kind of rational explanation. Look, I I 457 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 2: talked to Ed Warren on the phone, and I remember 458 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 2: distinctly he was talking about shadow ghosts and he was like, 459 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 2: ghosts can kill you, they can maim you. And I 460 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 2: was like, I don't. I don't know if I believe 461 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 2: what he believes, but I know he believes what he believes. 462 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 2: And that was freaky because he was so convinced what 463 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 2: he was talking about, you know. 464 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 465 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: I mean though the Warrens were very faith based, Yeah, so, 466 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: I mean they were very in I mean, he was 467 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: a demonologist. 468 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, And look, I mean, you know, 469 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 2: and it all comes down to this cognitive dissonance. We're 470 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 2: all gonna die one day, and you know, if there's dark, 471 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 2: there's light, right and so and that's kind of the 472 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 2: hope of it all. And I think horror gives us 473 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 2: the catharsist to kind of look at some of this 474 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 2: stuff that we all the taboo and the stuff that 475 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 2: we don't want to talk about, and put it into story. 476 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 2: In story form, and you know, the oldest story is 477 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 2: really a ghost story if you look at Christ and 478 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 2: you know the cave paintings in the lasso or horror image. 479 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 2: So so yeah, it's part of our DNA, I think. 480 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 2: And like I said at the beginning of the interview, 481 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 2: like a podcast, I want to believe. I'd love to 482 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 2: see my grandmother. I'd love to get a little signed 483 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 2: from her. So I'm open to it. I just you know, 484 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 2: it hasn't happened yet, you know, So I will continue 485 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 2: to make horror movies that exploit people's fears. 486 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 3: In the interim while I'm waiting, have you been to 487 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 3: a psychic. 488 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: Way back? You know? 489 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 3: Once? 490 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, this this gal Nancy Bradley up in the gold 491 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 2: Rush area of California. And that was a weird trip 492 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 2: because we had sold in my early twenties, we'd sold 493 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 2: like an online. We're kind of ahead of ourselves. We're 494 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 2: going to be like the Sightings for you know, the millennials. 495 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 2: Although I wasn't a millennial. I'm much older now, so 496 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 2: I don't know what we were baby boomers or whatever. 497 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 2: But but we were going to conceive was We're going 498 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 2: to go to haunted locations and yeah, this is this 499 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 2: lady and Nancy Bradley, and she was pretty good, you know, 500 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 2: she's pretty intuitive and stuff. But I've learned so much 501 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 2: about the way that they do their thing. But it's funny. 502 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 2: I just had a general meeting with an executive yesterday 503 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 2: and he was he had talked about going to a 504 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 2: psychic who blew him away and had very specific information 505 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 2: that only he knew, and so he was a sworn 506 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 2: believer after that. 507 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: You know, Well, I've had both experiences. I mean, I 508 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: definitely think that it's like the oldest trick in the book, 509 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: Like there's so many it's such an easy scam for 510 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: many people. But I think that there are the view 511 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: out there. I mean, I believe in a few that 512 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: I've encountered that really have that gift. 513 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 2: Yeah and yeah, and I mean I've certainly heard those 514 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 2: famous cases where psychic can help law enforcement, you know, 515 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 2: solve solve crimes. Yeah. So so again that goes back 516 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: to just us not understanding. 517 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 3: You know. 518 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 2: Modern neuroscience can show you the part of the brain 519 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 2: that a thought originates from, but they can't show you 520 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 2: who had that thought, you know, And so that's the 521 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 2: mystery and maybe eventually there will be an intersection where 522 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 2: we understand bulls, but for now, they're just things that 523 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 2: are unknowable, you know. And my little cousin, you know, 524 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 2: got up in the middle of his birthday party and 525 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 2: walked to the door and let his uncle. 526 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:57,959 Speaker 3: And he'd never met him. 527 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 2: His uncle had died three days before, but he described 528 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 2: it to a tee, the old man with the salty 529 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 2: great beard and blue jacket. And my aunt was, you know, 530 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,239 Speaker 2: she's convinced that, you know her, her uncle showed up 531 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 2: at the party. You know, wow, So. 532 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: What didn't you call your grandmother's board that she used? 533 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: Was that the kind of thing you could just like 534 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,719 Speaker 1: buy at a toy store or was this something that 535 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: she had? 536 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 2: Funny, it's it's funny you ask. I mean, you know, 537 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 2: they had a Wiji board for a while, and then 538 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 2: one they were doing an addition on my grandmother's house 539 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 2: and so it just went missing. And then, oh, what 540 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 2: are we going to do? You know, it's over the weekend. 541 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 2: It's knowing, you know. So she sent my dad out 542 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 2: in a blizzard to find another Wija board, and then 543 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 2: he came back. There was one talking board game on 544 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 2: the shelf and it was this Zariyah board and there 545 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 2: was one box left. So it's like very very specifically 546 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 2: was like sort of calling him in a weird way. 547 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: So she was really that kind of person that like 548 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: needed it, like she used it all the time. 549 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 2: I think it was more it's fun at first, but 550 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 2: she described like over time it had a type of 551 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 2: psychological hold on them. It called itself Cosmos was the 552 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 2: k O S m O S was the was the 553 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 2: name of the entity in the board, and it it 554 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 2: it had these fucked up biblical things it wanted them 555 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 2: to do. It's towards it got really nasty towards the 556 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 2: end where it would say it had seven commands like 557 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 2: smashed skulls, kill babies. 558 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 3: It had like really. 559 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 2: Scary things it wanted to do. And it's like when 560 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 2: you think of all like your your grandmother playing a 561 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 2: talking board game and then this this kind of stuff 562 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 2: coming through was it was really scary, you know. 563 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: Was it even when they weren't playing it were the 564 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: things going down in the house. 565 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a sense of an oppressive you know, 566 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 2: if you if you listen to the Warrens and certain demonologists, 567 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 2: they say there's four stages of possession, oppression. I forget 568 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 2: the different stages oppression something something, And yeah, there was 569 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 2: definitely a palpable sense of dread in the house. It 570 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,719 Speaker 2: drove a wedge between my father and my mother. It Uh, 571 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 2: it would be angry when it when they would first 572 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 2: play with it at the beginning of the weekend. You know, 573 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 2: how dare you be away from me for so long? 574 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 2: So it had a real consciousness to it. And that 575 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 2: was the part that freaked me out the most, is 576 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 2: it really had sort of like it's through the stories, 577 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 2: had an intellect and uh, you know she said one time, 578 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 2: you know, if you're so powerful, show yourself to us. 579 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 2: And then in the middle of a blizzard, with like 580 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,239 Speaker 2: twenty people in the room, a black cat came up 581 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 2: and scratched on the on the on the glass doors 582 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 2: of her front deck and then ran off into the night. 583 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 2: So stuff like that where you have multiple people telling 584 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 2: you the same story. I have cousins who won't talk 585 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,959 Speaker 2: about quote that time, you know. So so I know 586 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 2: it's not just my grandmother kind of making it up, 587 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 2: you know, And there's enough corroborating witnesses. 588 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: So but so she never actually met ed Warren, right, 589 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: she she called him for like advice. 590 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just it was just a phone call. 591 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 592 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: I guess that's about Uh, that's about it. 593 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 2: Cool. 594 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being on up on Holy 595 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: Holy Water and Durrell and exactly all of. 596 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 2: Your listeners Survive the Corona. 597 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: What what do you got going on? So We've got 598 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: the sequel to Escape Group coming out. 599 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I've got a TV show that I'm 600 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 2: working on with Darren Aronofski that I'm really excited about 601 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 2: that uses uh uses the addiction as a metaphor for 602 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 2: a monster, and it's at Netflix and hopefully they go 603 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 2: for it. That we're writing the second episode right now. 604 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: Amazing. I really look forward to that. Well, thank you 605 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: so much for taking the time. I really appreciate it. 606 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: Thank you, Adam. Now I'm excited to have my next 607 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: guest on the show, who is a fabulous comedian that 608 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: I have had the pleasure of working with in Los Angeles. 609 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: She has a great show called Picture This at the Virgil, 610 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: which The Virgil is another one of my favorite places 611 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: to perform in Los Angeles. If you're ever in LA. 612 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: It's not it's a performance space, but a lot of 613 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: people might know it because it's the club that Lady 614 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: Gaga performed at in a Star is Born when she 615 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 1: was kind of having her drag queen moment. I mean 616 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: that was you know, they dressed it up. That's not 617 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: really what it's not really a drag club, but that 618 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: is that same venue. So that's always kind of cool 619 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 1: when I'm like performing there to think about that taking 620 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: place there. I love that place. And she has this 621 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: really cool show that they actually have like professional animators 622 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:55,439 Speaker 1: that are drawing your jokes projected on a screen, and 623 00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: you should check it out. So hopefully Picture This will 624 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: be back very soon. I cannot wait to see it, 625 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: and hopefully we will all be performing live on stage 626 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: soon enough. But until then, here is Brandy and I 627 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:20,280 Speaker 1: talking in person. Take it away, Brandy. Posey, ladies and gentlemen. 628 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: Brandy's in the house. Hey girl, Hey hey Brandy, how 629 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: are you. 630 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 4: I'm doing pretty good. It's great to be here. 631 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: Thanks for doing this. 632 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for having me. 633 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: I I love to sit here in complete full drag 634 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: and talk about ghosts with with comedians and all kinds 635 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: of people and. 636 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 4: Well, absolutely I love and I wore full makeup as well. 637 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,439 Speaker 4: This is a high. The highest compliment I can say 638 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 4: is that I wore make up to a podcast tament. 639 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 1: I am honored. Yeah, like, I think you should be. 640 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: That's amazing. Thank you so much because I know how 641 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 1: much work. Listen to it. 642 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 4: Well, and it's it's fun, I like, because I'm in 643 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 4: full makeup. We're sitting in front of a fire inside 644 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:01,919 Speaker 4: of a haunted house. 645 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: Yes, and it's I just heard, I just heard my 646 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: microphone just fell and things already happening exactly. 647 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 4: It feels like we're in an Evan in Essence music 648 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 4: video or something. Wake me up. 649 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, what do you think about ghosts? 650 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 4: I think they're for any of those that are listening. 651 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 4: I think they're great. Ghost are podcast fans, right, they 652 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 4: have a lot of time, you. 653 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,879 Speaker 1: Know, I think about that a lot, like because I 654 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: I sometimes I mean, I've said not the most flattering 655 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: things about various ghosts and allegend demons and spirits. Yeah, 656 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: and I hope that I hope they don't listen. Yeah, yeah, 657 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,959 Speaker 1: if they do, like, I hope they have a great 658 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: sense of humor and that they give us five stars 659 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: at Apple Park. 660 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 4: That is like the one thing that's always kind of 661 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 4: weird about like being like, oh and somebody dies, they're 662 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 4: with you always. I'm like, did you not be with 663 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 4: me always? 664 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:53,240 Speaker 2: Though? 665 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: That's a psychic told me one time that they see everything. 666 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: I know. It's kind of a cock block, right discuss. 667 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:05,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to think about my grandparents watching me. Yeah, 668 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,280 Speaker 1: sometimes like it's freaky deeky over here exactly. 669 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 4: Well, you hope that they can just be like, you 670 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 4: know what, I'm going to remove myself and go over here. 671 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: We don't they have like a lot of family members, Like. 672 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, just they bop it around every time. Just fall 673 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,919 Speaker 4: go to the grocery store with me and then push 674 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 4: me away from the cookies. That's what I would like. 675 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 4: There you go a ghost to do for me. 676 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: But you know, a couple months ago this is true 677 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: and serious. I was driving to do a gig in 678 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: Palm Springs and I had this moment where all of 679 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 1: a sudden, the car in front of me, we're all 680 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: going seventy eighty ninety completely stalled or something, and I 681 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: was slamming on the brakes and I was like, I'm 682 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 1: gonna there's no way I'm going to break in time. 683 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: So I looked over my right no, I didn't have 684 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: enough time to look over to the lane next to me. 685 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: I just went for it. And I noticed as soon 686 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: as I got over that the car that was going 687 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: ninety or whatever in that lane just kind of went 688 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 1: boop and went on the shoulder. And I'm like, I 689 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: think I feel like a guardian angel or something. 690 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 3: Oh. 691 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 1: It was like, I'm just gonna push you over just 692 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: a little bit. 693 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,879 Speaker 4: I have felt very I feel very protected by by 694 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 4: people in my life. I I my my grandmother was 695 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,280 Speaker 4: my best friend growing up, and she died when I 696 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 4: right when I graduated college when I was twenty one, 697 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 4: and I have like definitely felt her with me since 698 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,720 Speaker 4: then as like a like a presence that I'm just like, Okay, 699 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 4: I feel I feel safe because you're here. You got 700 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 4: my back. Same, you know it definitely and you mixed. 701 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,280 Speaker 4: You sit up a little bit straighter. 702 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 2: Yah. 703 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 4: Nice? Yeah? 704 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 3: Do you so? 705 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,760 Speaker 1: Have you encountered a ghost? 706 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 4: I haven't yet, but in my family, basically all the 707 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 4: women in my family right before they pass so far 708 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,439 Speaker 4: like they they are visited by past family members. Yeah. 709 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: Does that make you nervous? 710 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 4: I mean yes and yes and no. So like my 711 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 4: my grandmother who's my best friend. She had a brother 712 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 4: that had died before her, and my and my grandfather 713 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:03,439 Speaker 4: had passed too, and she she had like a heart 714 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 4: failure basically, and she had one or two episodes before 715 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 4: she like finally went into the hospital and like the 716 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 4: first two she like went in, but then she got 717 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 4: back out and then the night before her like last 718 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:16,959 Speaker 4: the big heart attack that put her in a comma 719 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 4: that she died a few months. A few weeks later, 720 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 4: my uh my, my great uncle and my grandfather came 721 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 4: to visit her, and that I remember they her uh 722 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 4: being taken out to the ambulance. That that next day 723 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 4: she was like, that's it, that's it. I'm leaving. I'm 724 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 4: never coming back to this house. She just knew it 725 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 4: because when she saw them, she was like and they 726 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,439 Speaker 4: they they made her feel comfortable and they were just like, look, 727 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 4: I think they like to show up to be like, hey, 728 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 4: we're here. There is something like you're gonna you're gonna 729 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 4: see us soon. And whether that's like a trick of 730 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 4: the mind or like there is something real there or 731 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 4: like it ghosts to just like a concentrated energy that 732 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 4: like you can visualize or whatever. I don't know, but 733 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,040 Speaker 4: the crazy one is my mom. So my mom, my 734 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 4: mom passed away about six years ago, and she was like, uh, 735 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 4: she had a disease called multiple system atrophy, which like 736 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 4: it looks like Louke Griggs's kind of in the neurological family. 737 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 4: So she was like bedridden for the last three years 738 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 4: of her life, and she my mom was like catholic, 739 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 4: did not believe in ghosts, like very like by the book, 740 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 4: a very religious lady. And then for the last especially 741 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 4: last like sixty six months of her life, she was 742 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 4: like on a lot of like pain medication and stuff 743 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 4: and just really was not very lucid. But my aunt 744 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,799 Speaker 4: was living in the house the time, helping out. And 745 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,879 Speaker 4: one day, a few weeks from my mom passed away, 746 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 4: my aunt went upstairs to go like get my mom's 747 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,800 Speaker 4: lunch or whatever, take it downstairs, and my aunt my 748 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 4: mom woke up and just goes, your sister was here, 749 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 4: you need to name her. And my aunt was like, 750 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 4: what are you talking about. I'm okay, that's weird. So 751 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 4: she goes downstairs talk to my dad. My dad was like, 752 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 4: my dad is my brother. My aunt's brother was like, 753 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 4: oh there, mom, my grandmother had had a stillborn child 754 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 4: ten years before they had my dad, and my aunt 755 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 4: that was still born, never given a name, but buried 756 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 4: and they were like, is she talking about that? It's 757 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 4: not like a family secret, but it's like, why would 758 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 4: We've never really talked about that as a family. So 759 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 4: it's so funny because my aunt is just like the 760 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 4: most pragmatic person ever. She told me this and I 761 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 4: was like, what did you And she was like, he 762 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 4: was named her Mary, So I guess I have a sister, 763 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 4: a great aunt named Mary running around somewhere. It's kind 764 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 4: of funny. 765 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: Wow. 766 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 4: And then so it was a few weeks when my 767 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,879 Speaker 4: mom passed and then my mom saw her parents kind 768 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 4: of right before she passed to so just they came 769 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,439 Speaker 4: back to her just to say, hey, we're here. 770 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,879 Speaker 1: My I think I've told this story before, but when 771 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 1: my grandmother was dying, my mom visited her at the 772 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: hospital and she's my grandmother said that the relatives are 773 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 1: outside the door waiting, and she died like I think 774 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 1: that night, and my mom said that the nurse was like, yeah, 775 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 1: that happens a lot that people say that they see family. Yeah. 776 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 4: I think there's something really comforting about it. It's like, 777 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's like like I said, it's 778 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 4: I don't like particularly care one way or another if 779 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 4: it's real, or if it's a trick of your mind. 780 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 4: If the trick, if it's a trick of your mind, Like, 781 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 4: what a beautiful trick to pull on yourself. Yeah, to 782 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 4: give you that comfort at the end, you know, totally, 783 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:20,879 Speaker 4: I think it's a really beautiful thing. 784 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, to be like we're here, like, yeah, I have 785 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 1: a good time, You're gonna be fine, you. 786 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 4: Know, welcome to the Olive Garden of the afterlife. 787 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 3: Family. 788 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's never ending possible. Yeah, I mean that that does. 789 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: That does scare me. I just think about like what 790 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: if I alluden just saw all of my family, like 791 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,439 Speaker 1: all my past relatives one day. 792 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 4: Tell you what, I'd stop paying my credit card bills. 793 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's right, I'll start eat whatever I want. 794 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:58,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is. It is. But it's also like, Okay, 795 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 4: it's interesting because I'm losing both, like both of them 796 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 4: as early as I did. It really also kind of 797 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 4: has made me very like living in the moment, like 798 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,800 Speaker 4: I don't really have a lot of regrets in life, 799 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 4: so and being like okay, cool. Well, I guess if 800 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,879 Speaker 4: wellmember my mom shows back up, I gotta make sure 801 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 4: I crossed all my t's and dotted all my eyes 802 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 4: and feeling good about it. 803 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just always feel like everything's meant to be. Yeah, 804 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 1: you know, I can only just do the best that 805 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 1: I can in this lifetime and all that kind of stuff. 806 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 4: But I remember being I was on a ghost tour 807 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 4: when I was in seventh grade where Williamsburg, Virginia very 808 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 4: haunted place. Yeah, I'm from Maryland originally, and I was 809 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 4: in band, like I did all the all county bands 810 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 4: and orchestras and stuff like what did you play French horn? 811 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: Okay? 812 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I wanted to play the drums. My dad wouldn't 813 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 4: let me because it was like I don't want those 814 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 4: in my house. So then I like remember looking at 815 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 4: like the Peter and the Wolf record and I was like, well, 816 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 4: which animals the Wolf? There was a French horn and 817 00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 4: I was like, all right, I'm gonna play that. I 818 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,439 Speaker 4: didn't even know what it looked to play it. I can, yeah, 819 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 4: I have it on the come with You girl started 820 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 4: an orchestra. I'll bust out every once in a while 821 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 4: to see if I can still run scales just to 822 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 4: see if I can do it or not. It's nice 823 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 4: to be like, Okay, cool, it's still in there. Okay, good, Yeah, 824 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 4: it's fun. 825 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 1: So what happened on the ghost tour? 826 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 4: So I remember, like walking around, I get really spooked 827 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,360 Speaker 4: by that stuff. He's they can't really watch horror movies. 828 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 4: They stressed me out way too much. So I was 829 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 4: like kind of just walking around and I remember seeing like, 830 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 4: remember I saw I saw a weird light like up 831 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 4: in the sky and a weird corner in my eye, 832 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,359 Speaker 4: and I remember like being like that's a star and 833 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 4: looking at it and then it shot to a different 834 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 4: point in this star in the sky, and then it 835 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 4: shot somewhere else away after that, like it like exactly 836 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,399 Speaker 4: when I looked at it, like I was like, what 837 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 4: the fuck is that thing? And I was like, did 838 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 4: I just see an alien on a ghost or it's 839 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 4: like a real woolu turn duck and it's nice. 840 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean there's a lot of places in 841 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 1: this world, on this earth that are known for lots 842 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 1: of paranormal activity in all senses of the world. Yeah, word, 843 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,359 Speaker 1: And I don't I don't know much about the paranormal 844 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,879 Speaker 1: in that specific area. But I don't have a hard 845 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 1: time believing that there could be ghosts and UFOs and creatures, 846 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 1: and you know, there's just some places that are just hotbeds. 847 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 4: For that definitely. Well there's like energy that's attracting something there, 848 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 4: you know. And I just remember being like talking to 849 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 4: some of my friends afterwards and being like, Okay, you're 850 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,720 Speaker 4: in CURL in seventh grade. You can't talk about aliens 851 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 4: too much right now, take it easy. 852 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,799 Speaker 1: I don't. It's interesting because people ask me all the 853 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,879 Speaker 1: time why I don't talk about UFOs on the show, 854 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 1: because we usually just talk about ghosts. But I mean, 855 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 1: obviously I believe in UFO. Do you believe in UFOs? 856 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 2: Oh? 857 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely aliens exist for sure, of course. 858 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I feel like I always have a 859 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,240 Speaker 1: hard time with people that are like I don't believe 860 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 1: at all and something and it's. 861 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 4: Like how narcissistic. We're the only planet exactly. 862 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 1: That's how I always so big. Yes, Yeah, So I 863 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 1: just usually don't talk about it because it gets I 864 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 1: feel like the more I'll talk about it, the more 865 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: like it usually turns into like conspiracy theories. Yeah, yeah, 866 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 1: you know, political like all this. You know, the government's 867 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 1: hiding it from us well, which I do believe, well I. 868 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,359 Speaker 4: Do too, but but also they've been slow rolling it out. 869 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 4: It seems like this, yeah the guy from I hear, Yeah, yeah, 870 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,319 Speaker 4: Tom Plung's getting real into it. Yes he's the part of. 871 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 1: It, but he's been like a huge force in it 872 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 1: because he has a huge following, and. 873 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 4: It's like it's putting real money behind it. Well there was, 874 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 4: there was just the Navy I think just released footage. 875 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 4: They're they're using a different acronym now instead of the UFO. 876 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 4: It's like something else to I think the funk up 877 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 4: the search is basically, but like they just released footage. 878 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 4: They were like, we do don't actually know what this was. 879 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,280 Speaker 4: So there is footage and they identify, Yeah it's I identified, 880 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 4: And it's like I think I kind of feel like 881 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 4: they're like the world's pretty chaotic right now if we 882 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,279 Speaker 4: just slowly drop some UFO stuff and it barely made 883 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 4: the news, so I think people are like, yeah, Okay, sure, 884 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 4: I guess there's aliens, but like there's also all those 885 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 4: other shit we're dealing with right now. 886 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 1: Honestly, like it's probably a great time to just like 887 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,959 Speaker 1: be dropping that shit, because it's just every day it's 888 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 1: like everyone's doing some shit. It's exactly why don't we 889 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 1: just like drop a little bit of UFOs and aliens. 890 00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, disclosure is happening. It's not happening in a way 891 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 4: I ever thought it was going to because of everything 892 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 4: else that's happening right now. But I think we're all 893 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 4: just like sure, I guess there's also aliens. Maybe they 894 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,240 Speaker 4: can help us, but. 895 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 1: Like we see, people are people are always talking about UFOs. 896 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,879 Speaker 1: Like the the reason that we don't the government doesn't 897 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,719 Speaker 1: tell us about it is because of the hysteria, Like 898 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,439 Speaker 1: the whole world is going to start freaking out. Yeah, 899 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 1: and I can understand that. 900 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,759 Speaker 4: Well, they want you to be scared. They also want 901 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 4: you to I mean, the world like wants you to 902 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 4: pitch you again everybody else as much as possible, so 903 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 4: you weren't looking up, you know, to see who is 904 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 4: actually holding power of any kind. So I also think 905 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 4: that like, you know, if we as a people were like, 906 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 4: oh shit, other alien races exist, then Earth people on 907 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 4: Earth have more in common than anybody in power actually 908 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,400 Speaker 4: wants us to think about. You know, it would unite 909 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 4: us in a way, because that it would be like 910 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 4: the you know, the end of the Dependence Day where 911 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,239 Speaker 4: it's like all the different countries are like they're all 912 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 4: getting the code and they're all fighting the aliens. Not 913 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,880 Speaker 4: that aliens are necessarily bad, but it would be like, oh, 914 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:37,920 Speaker 4: all these differences don't actually matter, you know, which it's true. 915 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 1: And if that's the case, we are all on the 916 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:45,880 Speaker 1: same team exactly, So everyone would shut up about your politics. 917 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 4: Exactly, and nobody, nobody at a certain level of power, 918 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,760 Speaker 4: wants us to realize how much we actually have in common. 919 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 1: Right. 920 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's my conspiracy theory about aliens, and. 921 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 1: That concludes the portion of the show exactly. 922 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 4: Maybe there are ghosts two knows. I loved I met 923 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,359 Speaker 4: an alien ghost. Oh yeah, it would be fine. 924 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 1: I mean they must exist. 925 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 4: Maybe that's what aliens are. They're the ghosts of aliens 926 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 4: from other planets that like, there wasn't an afterlife. We 927 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 4: just go travel the Solar system. 928 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 1: That is fun. 929 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,000 Speaker 4: That would be pretty cool. 930 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 1: Be an alien. Do you so when you saw that thing? 931 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,239 Speaker 1: Did anybody else see it or was it just you? 932 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,360 Speaker 4: It's just me? Yeah, but it was like I remember 933 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:29,480 Speaker 4: I looked at it and it like I remember having 934 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,759 Speaker 4: this feeling like it knew that I saw it, and 935 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,400 Speaker 4: then it moved. It was just this weird moment that 936 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,480 Speaker 4: I was like, huh, and then it moved once and 937 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:37,719 Speaker 4: then it shot away completely. 938 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 1: There's so much smarter than us. Yeah, they probably know. 939 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,239 Speaker 1: They could probably see you from up there. 940 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 4: Mm hmm. Yeah. That was the weird thing where I 941 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 4: was just like because if it had just like shot away, 942 00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 4: I would have been like, oh, maybe it's like something 943 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 4: a shooting star or something. But it stopped in one 944 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,719 Speaker 4: place and then it shot away after that, and it 945 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,959 Speaker 4: was a split second though. It was so fast because 946 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 4: I couldn't have been like anybody else, And I remember 947 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 4: being like, wait, an emilse nothing and everyone's like, what 948 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 4: are you talking about? Well, listen to we're a cemetery, Brandy. 949 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 4: Why are you looking at the stars right? 950 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 1: Oh my god. They're probably like, oh, we're gonna make 951 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,279 Speaker 1: her look like she's crazy. Yeah, they're like wave to you. 952 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 1: In the second that you notice they walk away, they 953 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 1: fly away exactly. Do you want to hear a ghost story? 954 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 4: I would love to hear your story. 955 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 1: Okay, let me find it real quick. This is in 956 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:28,719 Speaker 1: our Facebook group called Ghosted by Roz Dresfles, and this 957 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,880 Speaker 1: particular story was posted by Yarrow. 958 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:38,040 Speaker 4: Yarrow, So, yarro, right, Okay, what you got? 959 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 1: The downstairs at my house is in all caps haunted. 960 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:46,360 Speaker 4: Do you think that means downstairs or a basement? Like true? 961 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,320 Speaker 1: They in Maryland? Right, Oh yeah, yeah, I'm from Michigan. 962 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,360 Speaker 1: We have basements too, which anytime you're like in California 963 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,439 Speaker 1: and you're like going to a house, it's like, yeah, 964 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:56,440 Speaker 1: oh you don't have a basement. 965 00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 4: Basements so much. 966 00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,920 Speaker 1: Basements can be both the most terrifying or especially when 967 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,560 Speaker 1: you're a teenager, that's where you can that's where you 968 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 1: have your own world down there. 969 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. See a lot of Genitalia, to a lot 970 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:14,480 Speaker 4: of Shawshank Redemptions DVDs, and. 971 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of DVD menus playing over and 972 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:24,239 Speaker 1: over as various things happening. Okay, So they said, my 973 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:29,759 Speaker 1: son and partner are both asleep in slash hogging our bed. 974 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,840 Speaker 1: So I decided to go sleep in our guest room downstairs. 975 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,839 Speaker 1: My cousin was living with us for a minute in 976 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 1: that room and used to talk about how haunted it 977 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,759 Speaker 1: was downstairs. But I never really took her seriously. Anyways. 978 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 1: I was just chilling in the guest room trying to 979 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 1: sleep and thinking about the possibility of ghost in our 980 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,760 Speaker 1: house when I got a text from an old pale 981 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 1: and forgot about it. The ghost was mad again. In 982 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 1: all caps, I heard a huge crash in the bathroom 983 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 1: next to me, and when I checked it out, all 984 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:07,920 Speaker 1: my makeup and my son's bathtub toys were strewn across 985 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 1: the floor. Who it wasn't like these all fell off 986 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 1: of a single janky shelf either. His toys were in 987 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:20,320 Speaker 1: the tub and now outside the tub. This is seriously 988 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,960 Speaker 1: the scariest supernatural thing that's ever happened to me, So 989 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,840 Speaker 1: I had to come here to get it out. FYI, 990 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 1: I'm in the non haunted upstairs bedroom with son and partner. Now, okay, 991 00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,920 Speaker 1: that's a little scary, yaro. Keep us updated on what 992 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 1: was going on in this section of the house. 993 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm wondering if there's because I always wonder with ghosts. 994 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:48,279 Speaker 4: It's like, do you where where did that ghost come from? 995 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,719 Speaker 4: You know, like, did somebody die in the house? Is 996 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 4: it like a wayward ghost the found your place? 997 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:54,000 Speaker 1: Like can happen? 998 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:55,600 Speaker 4: Is this poulter geistwn Ederay. Well. 999 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,759 Speaker 1: See, that's the thing that drives me crazy is that 1000 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 1: the more I've done the show and the more ghosts 1001 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 1: stories I hear, it's like you think you know the rules, 1002 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 1: but then you hear someone tell you a story about like, yeah, 1003 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,160 Speaker 1: I lived in this house for ten years, nothing ever happened, 1004 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,840 Speaker 1: then one day this ghost showed up. It's not always 1005 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 1: like some something spooky happened and then you move into 1006 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:16,520 Speaker 1: a spooky house. Yeah. 1007 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 4: Well, because I guess movies and TV had me under 1008 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 4: the impression that it was like a spirit trapped in 1009 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,640 Speaker 4: a place. But I guess that isn't necessarily the thing. 1010 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,960 Speaker 1: Well, they can get awoken too. Our mutual Chris Fairbanks 1011 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,799 Speaker 1: moved into a place and he did some slight alterations 1012 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:34,439 Speaker 1: to the apartment, and it ghost showed up. 1013 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,000 Speaker 4: Oh man did not let the new wallpaper. 1014 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,959 Speaker 1: So but what I'm mad about, or what would drive 1015 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 1: me insane, is that she said her makeup. Yeah, I mean, 1016 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,919 Speaker 1: and the bathtub toys. But the makeup is prizy. Shit 1017 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,400 Speaker 1: thrown around across the floor. 1018 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:51,400 Speaker 4: Uh uh. 1019 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,960 Speaker 1: You ever have like a compact get thrown God, it breaks, 1020 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:55,720 Speaker 1: It's terrible. 1021 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,239 Speaker 4: Here's the thing I'm not gonna throw it away. I'm 1022 00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,759 Speaker 4: just gonna use it like a popper is just oh no. 1023 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,640 Speaker 1: What you have to do is you take a little 1024 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,520 Speaker 1: bit of rubbing alcohol and you put it in and 1025 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,040 Speaker 1: you mix it around and then you let it dry. 1026 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:10,759 Speaker 4: Oh really, that'll reset it. 1027 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,400 Speaker 1: That's what I've learned from the internet. 1028 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 4: WHOA, that is very useful knowledge to have. 1029 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,360 Speaker 1: Leave it up to a drag coin to give you 1030 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,680 Speaker 1: a cheap alternative, something new. 1031 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:22,520 Speaker 4: That makes sense. 1032 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 1: Okay, you would you like to hear some ghost of voices? 1033 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:28,560 Speaker 4: I love a ghost voice. 1034 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 3: Yes, it is time for ev. 1035 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:38,360 Speaker 1: Or ev Plase. Do you know what EVP is? 1036 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 4: Uh? What does that stand for? 1037 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:44,400 Speaker 1: Again? Electronic voice phenomenon, That's what it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1038 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,879 Speaker 1: So what I do is I go to the internets 1039 00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:52,319 Speaker 1: and I find ghost hunters voices that they've captured, and 1040 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,279 Speaker 1: then I want you to guess what. 1041 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,959 Speaker 4: The ghost is saying, okay. 1042 00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 1: Or what the ghost hunter thinks it says, just whatever 1043 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:03,759 Speaker 1: whatever pops into your head. Okay, okay, this first one, well, 1044 00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,440 Speaker 1: these are I'm gonna play two of them for you. 1045 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:12,080 Speaker 1: The first one comes from Baltimore Paranormal Investigators. 1046 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,680 Speaker 4: It's gonna be like, hey, han, I thought it would be. 1047 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 1: Fun to go to your your homeland. Are you from 1048 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:23,800 Speaker 1: actual Baltimore, like just south of it, just around it? Yeah, 1049 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 1: it does not tell me where exactly they did this, 1050 00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:33,200 Speaker 1: but all right, here we go. It's like there's some 1051 00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 1: there's always a little bit of like just recorded ambiance noise, 1052 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,759 Speaker 1: but it's a it's a loud whisper. Let's try it again. 1053 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:46,480 Speaker 3: What do you they? 1054 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:47,399 Speaker 4: Oh? 1055 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 1: Man, you hear it again? 1056 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:56,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, more time. It feels against like, help the Ravens 1057 00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:57,319 Speaker 4: win next year. 1058 00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,319 Speaker 1: Help the Ravens. Yeah wait, I'm pretty sure that's a 1059 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:01,520 Speaker 1: Baltimore team. Right. 1060 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,680 Speaker 4: It's a football team, but named after the only football 1061 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,520 Speaker 4: and I don't give a fuck about football, but the 1062 00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 4: only team in the NFL named after literary anything because 1063 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:15,239 Speaker 4: Ed is the raven because Edgroll and Poe from Baltimore. Yeah, 1064 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,120 Speaker 4: he's buried there. He's actually buried in Baltimore. And on 1065 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 4: his birthday every year, there is a man that dresses 1066 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,520 Speaker 4: Ed girl and Poe and he goes and he puts 1067 00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:30,759 Speaker 4: a shot of cognac on his gravestone. Has for I think, well, 1068 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,840 Speaker 4: it's it's been happen. Here's the thing. It's been happening 1069 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,080 Speaker 4: for over like sixty or seventy years now, so it's 1070 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:36,640 Speaker 4: been passed down to multiple people. 1071 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:38,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's actually him. 1072 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,480 Speaker 4: I hope it is. I hope he's out there ghosting around. 1073 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,080 Speaker 4: If anybody would, it would be him. 1074 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 1: All right, So what you thought it was helped the 1075 00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:46,759 Speaker 1: Ravens win. 1076 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean people from Baltimore, they're real even. 1077 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, once they pass, they're still rooting for the team. 1078 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,120 Speaker 4: They I mean, they love that purple camouflage. 1079 00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,680 Speaker 1: Let me get you some options. Okay, here, let's play 1080 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:02,880 Speaker 1: it again. Now, these are some options for what Baltimore 1081 00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:07,000 Speaker 1: paranormal investigators believe that it says. Is it a Oh, 1082 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,480 Speaker 1: I hope I can get a nap in b I 1083 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 1: wonder what's gonna happen? See go for help? Or d 1084 00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,560 Speaker 1: oh I really wanted a happy meal? 1085 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 4: I think it's b It sounds the most. Oh man, 1086 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:30,560 Speaker 4: now I'm hearing happy meal. 1087 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 1: So you think gets to wonder what's gonna happen? 1088 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:35,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's I think it's I wonder what's 1089 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,800 Speaker 4: gonna happen. 1090 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:41,600 Speaker 1: That's what it sounds like to me. They think it's 1091 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,240 Speaker 1: go for help, which I don't know about that one. 1092 00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:45,880 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1093 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,440 Speaker 1: No, it's someone that's wondering what's gonna happen or if 1094 00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,240 Speaker 1: they can have a happy meal. Yeah, yeah, all right, 1095 00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 1: let's try another one from the same video from Baltimore 1096 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:11,080 Speaker 1: Paranormal Investigators. What mm hmm, it's another whisper with lots 1097 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:11,920 Speaker 1: of loud noise. 1098 00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,320 Speaker 4: Look listen to Baltimore Paranormal Society. If you're listening, what 1099 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,480 Speaker 4: I gotta say, stop wearing tap shoes to all these 1100 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:22,120 Speaker 4: ghost hots. You gotta stop doing your soft shoes. 1101 00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:27,400 Speaker 1: Come on, man, take it down a notch. Seriously. Maybe 1102 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,920 Speaker 1: it's like old vaudeville ghosts that are tapping around in 1103 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,880 Speaker 1: the afterlife. Wait, let's listen again. 1104 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,080 Speaker 4: Put the old bay on the crabs. So it sounds 1105 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:42,200 Speaker 4: like I. 1106 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,920 Speaker 1: Mean, yeah, you are definitely not you definitely know that 1107 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,200 Speaker 1: in Baltimore that I feel like. That's what When I 1108 00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,080 Speaker 1: think of Baltimore, I think of John Waters, I think 1109 00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:50,760 Speaker 1: of crabs. 1110 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,760 Speaker 4: Well, I think, yeah, crabs, grabs, yea, crabs of all crab, 1111 00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,760 Speaker 4: crabs of all kinds of all. Maybe it's divine just 1112 00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,600 Speaker 4: being like shoes or awful those shoes suck. 1113 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:07,040 Speaker 1: Okay, here's some options. Is it a you're not supposed 1114 00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:11,560 Speaker 1: to be here? B I love the music of c 1115 00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:18,400 Speaker 1: Yah see I'm coming to get you or d How convenient? 1116 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,960 Speaker 1: All sarcastic, How convenient? Here, let's hear it again. 1117 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:28,120 Speaker 4: Okay, what was the first one again? 1118 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:29,919 Speaker 1: You're not supposed to be here. 1119 00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:34,520 Speaker 4: I'm hearing that a little bit. 1120 00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:36,200 Speaker 1: That's how they thought it was too. 1121 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I supposed to be supposed to be here. 1122 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:41,280 Speaker 1: Hey, that's about it. 1123 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,240 Speaker 4: Oh, thanks, honey, this was thanks to do this. Thanks 1124 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,120 Speaker 4: for having me tell people. 1125 00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,040 Speaker 1: Where they find you and what you got going on. 1126 00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:52,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. So my Instagram and my Twitter are brand Dazzle 1127 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 4: b r A n d A z z l E. 1128 00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:59,200 Speaker 4: I have a podcast. Made a horrible noise into the microphone. 1129 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:04,480 Speaker 4: Do you hear that? I have a podcast of my own. 1130 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,720 Speaker 1: It's called an scream o band. 1131 01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 4: Yeah exactly. It's called Lady to Lady. 1132 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:11,880 Speaker 1: What's Lady too, Lady? 1133 01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,920 Speaker 4: It's my podcast. It's me Barbara Gray and Test Barker, 1134 01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:16,800 Speaker 4: and then we have a fourth guest on every week 1135 01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,520 Speaker 4: who's generally a female comedian. We've had like a bunch 1136 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,440 Speaker 4: of very fun other guests and stuff too, and then 1137 01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,280 Speaker 4: we like just kind of riff and have a good 1138 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,680 Speaker 4: time and it feels like a sleepover brunch party. Oh 1139 01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,440 Speaker 4: my god, I'll we're going to have you on. You're 1140 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:29,200 Speaker 4: on my list now girl. 1141 01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:36,480 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for listening to my conversations with Adam 1142 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 1: Robatel and Brandy Posey. I am excited because here in 1143 01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:52,560 Speaker 1: my fabulous boyfriend's shower studios, I am recording some more 1144 01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 1: interviews this week with some fabulous guests. So make sure 1145 01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,920 Speaker 1: you are subscribed. 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You guys often send me different celebrities 1153 01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:27,959 Speaker 1: or you know people that you hear that have these 1154 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:32,920 Speaker 1: incredible ghost stories, and you know, let me know, you know, 1155 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,640 Speaker 1: if you know somebody that has a good story. I'm 1156 01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:37,720 Speaker 1: I'm often looking for a new guests, so I always 1157 01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:41,600 Speaker 1: appreciate that. And you know, I usually know somebody or 1158 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:45,760 Speaker 1: know somebody that knows somebody, and sometimes it works out. 1159 01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:49,840 Speaker 1: So I always appreciate that. Make sure you're in that 1160 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,640 Speaker 1: Facebook group ghosted by Rose Dressful us. 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