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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, arm Strong and

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Speaker 1: Gatty and He Armstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 2: Investigators say they discovered a notebook and nine millimeter handgun

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Speaker 2: in Mangioni's backpack, key evidence his defense team is asking

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Speaker 2: the court to suppress. They argue police did not have

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Speaker 2: a search warrant and failed to read Mangioni his Miranda rights.

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Speaker 3: This could make or break the prosecutions case.

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Speaker 1: It completes the picture of what was.

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Speaker 2: Going on in Mangioni's mind.

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Speaker 4: I thought that was pretty interesting when I learned that

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Speaker 4: yesterday the cases started with the good looking, eyebrowed scumbag

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Speaker 4: murderer being charged with killing that United Healthcare worker just

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Speaker 4: murdered him in cold bud shot him in the back.

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Speaker 1: Awful, awful story.

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Speaker 4: But I thought it was interesting that maybe they didn't

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Speaker 4: cross their t's and dot their eyes in terms of

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Speaker 4: following legal protocol getting some of the evidence.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, we'll have to see.

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Speaker 5: The defense always claims that they try to get everything

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Speaker 5: tossed out.

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Speaker 4: Sure, the fact that the media went along with the

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Speaker 4: here he is smiling in court, showing the good looking

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Speaker 4: kid all dressed up nice and neat, looking like a model,

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Speaker 4: smiling in the courtroom. I saw that on every freaking

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Speaker 4: newscast I watched, way to build him into a folk hero.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's disgusting.

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Speaker 5: I'm trying to puzzle out what's behind people's and the

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Speaker 5: people who are fans and you know, contributing to his

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Speaker 5: legal defense and idolizing the guy. And because he murdered

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Speaker 5: a young dad, now you might be really unhappy with

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Speaker 5: the state of American healthcare and health insurance. I am,

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Speaker 5: But to then make the leap that therefore murdering somebody's

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Speaker 5: fine to get attention to the to the issue because

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Speaker 5: that's more or less the argument that's being made, or

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Speaker 5: this guy was complicit in it, therefore dot. I just

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Speaker 5: think it's that so many people live so much of

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Speaker 5: their lives online they've forgotten what real human beings are.

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Speaker 5: In a way, they see everybody as just an icon

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Speaker 5: or a video or a series of posts online. They've

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Speaker 5: lost their sense of their fellow humans, humanity.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I became aware of this a long time ago, as

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Speaker 4: we are minor celebrities that when people say incredibly awful

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Speaker 4: things on the text line or Twitter or whatever. I

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Speaker 4: realize that they don't see me as an actual human being.

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Speaker 4: I'm like a TV show or something, and you know,

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Speaker 4: just take it that way, because I know I do

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Speaker 4: that with celebrities and I'm not proud of it, but I,

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Speaker 4: you know, make comments about their lives, fashion choices, or

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Speaker 4: you know, surgeries they've gotten on their faces or whatever

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Speaker 4: is if they aren't actual human beings with feelings.

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Speaker 1: And needs and desires and everything like that. And so

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Speaker 1: I think you're right.

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Speaker 4: I think this has just grown to include like practically

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Speaker 5: So you're you're like indicating directionally what you think. You

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Speaker 5: if you want to make clear that you think American

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Speaker 5: health insurance and our system is screwed up, you say

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Speaker 5: hooray for the murder of this young man, because that

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Speaker 5: indicates I am against the current state of things. Forgetting

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Speaker 5: that to encourage murder is just horrific. Where does it end? Genius?

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Speaker 4: I hadn't seen the video in a while, and when

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Speaker 4: they showed you know, portions of it yesterday and the

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Speaker 4: newscast because the trial started it.

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Speaker 1: Oh as really reminded.

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Speaker 4: How horrible it is that dude just walking down the

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Speaker 4: and he goes to his knees dies there in the sidewalk.

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Speaker 1: It's just horrible, horrible.

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Speaker 5: And then you factor in the fact that a lot

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Speaker 5: of the appeal of Luigi.

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Speaker 1: Is the fact that he's handsome. What the freak is

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Speaker 1: wrong with you?

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Speaker 5: Well, and he didn't have any any interactions with United Healthcare,

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Speaker 5: so it was just like a generalized insurance is a problem,

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Speaker 5: So I'm going to find somebody in the industry and

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Speaker 5: murder them. He didn't have a problems with anything. He

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Speaker 5: went to a super expensive grade school, middle school, high school,

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Speaker 5: went to what ivy league college.

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Speaker 1: He's been rich his entire life. He's one of those

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he had a lot of He had some

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Speaker 5: pretty serious back issues and back pain, a lot of

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Speaker 1: But again, that doesn't even enter into it. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: so I think I said this during the commercials. I

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Speaker 4: Anybody who's out there in support of the dude because

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Speaker 4: he's so handsome, needs to be put in jail because

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Speaker 4: they're that stupid. They're a danger to society. A stupid jail,

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Speaker 4: a stupid person jail.

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Speaker 5: It could be pretty nice. It could be like the

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Speaker 5: place they got Gallayne Maxwell. It doesn't have to be hardcore.

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Speaker 5: But you gotta be away from the public. If you're

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Speaker 5: supporting this guy because of his eyebrows. Yeah, you should

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Speaker 5: not be in the public, a stupid denterie. If you will.

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Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I don't know. I just deny them the vote.

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Speaker 5: That's enough for me. I'm a kind and merciful man.

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Speaker 5: Just don't let them vote ever again. All right, weird.

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Speaker 4: Editorial decision though by all the news people to here

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Speaker 4: he is smiling in the courtroom.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what is that? What are you trying to think?

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Speaker 1: They get everybody that way.

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Speaker 5: They get the fans and the people who understand that

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Speaker 5: murder is a bad thing, which apparently we need to

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Speaker 4: So open the show asking the question, how do these

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Speaker 1: Horrible. Yet we had a huge Black Friday weekend.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to figure that out and everybody else is too,

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Speaker 4: up three percent total, but prices are up seven percent,

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 4: Sales were up, but things are way more expensive. So

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Speaker 4: if you bought the same amount of stuff as last year,

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Speaker 4: they would be up, right, that's true?

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Speaker 5: Or if it's down less than the rate of inflation,

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Speaker 5: like it would be up. Yeah, huh, that should be answer.

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Speaker 5: Why is he by the way, people, inflation is not

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Speaker 5: what we all say it is. We have it backwards,

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Speaker 5: Inflation is not what we think it is. We have

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Speaker 5: it backwards.

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Speaker 1: Correct.

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Speaker 5: We've all been wrong, dead wrong, filthy wrong, shamefully wrong.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and Joel explained, yes, I will all right.

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Speaker 5: A lot on the way, stay here Strong.

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Speaker 1: What part of your body was the MRI looking at.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea.

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Speaker 6: That's not physically possible. To have no idea, it's not possible. Lord,

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Speaker 6: would you say to the doctor, no, no, no, don't

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Speaker 6: tell me. I want to find out at my MRI

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Speaker 6: reveal party.

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Speaker 3: That's the flu.

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Speaker 6: For god's sakes, man, were you not curious at all

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Speaker 1: Minutes You didn't want to know what they might be doing?

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Speaker 6: Or did you just think yourself what a loud tanning bed?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well that struck me the same way too. When

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Speaker 4: Trump said I have no idea what they did an

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Speaker 5: Yeah, just I mean because you find medical science interesting. Well,

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Speaker 5: I have personal interest in my own health. So you

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Speaker 5: think I might have something wrong with me? You're gonna

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Speaker 5: do an MRI on what?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Had one emailer say that, No, since the budget is unlimited,

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Speaker 5: they just did a whole body.

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Speaker 5: I never will. So I found this really really interesting.

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Speaker 5: It might seem seem like a quibble to you, but

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Speaker 5: it's not. I think it's fundamentally really important. How many

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Speaker 5: times have we talked about how the Left perverts language,

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Speaker 5: how they change the meanings of words or equivocate between

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Speaker 5: two terms like sex and gender. First they tell you, no,

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Speaker 5: gender is different from sex, it's just the way you

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Speaker 5: express yourself. And then Mike, your child needs to change

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Speaker 5: his gender. Do you mean to get a sex change? No,

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Speaker 5: we've already reckoned with that. As a society. We don't

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Speaker 5: give sex changes to children. But now they've invented new

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Speaker 5: terms to try to confuse issues. They do that all

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Speaker 5: the time, and it pisses me off when even conservatives

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Speaker 5: use terms like gender affirming care, for instance, which is

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Speaker 5: obviously a term created to cloud issues. Found this super interesting.

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Speaker 5: This guy from the Misse Institute, Ludwig mis say, Ludwig

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Speaker 5: von missus, miss a missus whatever, I'm not friend, it's

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Speaker 5: me right, messus uh. The Mesas Institute says every major

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Speaker 5: economic illusion begins with the corruption of a word. Inflation

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Speaker 5: once meant popularly people's perception of the word inflation, they

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Speaker 5: understood what it still means in truth, the artificial expansion

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Speaker 1: This is true. You know, I hadn't thought about it.

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Speaker 5: But they mentioned the Austrian school of economics and the

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Speaker 5: We have re complete inability to say no to ourselves

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Speaker 4: That's the percentage you believe the likelihood of complete doom

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Speaker 5: I certainly hope the p doom is generally one to

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Speaker 4: Am much more pessimistic having taken in a bunch of

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Speaker 4: It's kind of liberating, really giving a certain way in

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Speaker 7: Minute, the struggle appears to be over. The zeus is

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and lions, it's not like the it's a Texas

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they sprayed it with a fire extinguisher

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Speaker 4: So if you listen to this show, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: Here's one of the reasons which I thought I found

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Speaker 4: So I've been taking I read a lot, I watch

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Speaker 5: Sure, that's what universities used to do, the exchange of

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Speaker 5: Or groc or you know, whoever's different thing to get

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Speaker 4: They're way smarter than me when it comes to computers

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Speaker 5: but so much stupider than me and most everybody else.

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Speaker 5: And not having the ability to recognize that China's one

445
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Speaker 5: goal as a country is to pass us up and

446
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Speaker 5: dominate the.

447
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Speaker 1: World, your child, in the name of totalitarianism.

448
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and they have no interest whatsoever in working with

449
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Speaker 5: us to create an AI that benefits all man. And

450
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Speaker 5: they never ever will, you child, So as long as

451
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Speaker 5: do we need to work with them and get will

452
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Speaker 5: and they'll be nice to us, and we'll be nice

453
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Speaker 5: to put on a little Lord Funnel Roy outfit and

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Speaker 5: suck on a lollipop.

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Speaker 1: Ew dope, you child, you child.

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Speaker 4: It was both not surprising and disappointing to realize that

457
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Speaker 4: the same moronic politics and human nature and blind spots

458
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Speaker 4: are going to be involved in the debate around AI

459
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Speaker 4: as there is with freaking everything else.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it reminds me of civilian control with the military

462
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Speaker 5: that exists for a very specific set of reasons. Civilian

463
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Speaker 5: control of AI will let you worry about the particulars

464
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Speaker 5: and develop it and come up with new weapons and

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Speaker 5: the rest of it. But there've got to be non

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Speaker 5: in the lab forces that talk about how to be used, how.

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Speaker 1: It be used.

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Speaker 5: On the other hand, it's funny all these we got

469
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Speaker 5: a bunch of great emails on this topic. I've read articles,

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Speaker 5: I've listened to you talk, and I just sit here,

471
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Speaker 5: you know, munching on a cellery stick, playing cribbage on

472
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Speaker 5: my phone. And when everybody's done talking, I say, what

473
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Speaker 5: about China? And I go back to playing cribbage on

474
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Speaker 5: my phone Because you could talk for weeks about well

475
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Speaker 5: we could. We probably don't want to regulate the development

476
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Speaker 5: of it in the research, but we can regulate the

477
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Speaker 5: implementation of it in ways that make sure that what

478
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Speaker 5: about China? And I sit down again.

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Speaker 1: So getting to this whole p doom concept. So this

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Speaker 1: I don't remember.

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Speaker 4: It was coined a couple of years ago, and it's

482
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Speaker 4: a regular thing you ask people to start the conversation

483
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Speaker 4: of what's your pedom, what's your percentage of this is

484
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Speaker 4: going to destroy mankind? And for instance, Elon Musk is

485
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Speaker 4: at like ten to twenty percent, which seems incredibly high.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if that is, if that is realistic, you

487
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Speaker 5: wouldn't think you'd go down a road where there's a

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Speaker 5: one in five chance it destroys all of mankind. But

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Speaker 5: we are AnyWho this one particular expert, the one that

490
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Speaker 5: was a moron about China and their desires, his pedom

491
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Speaker 5: is around one percent. And they said, and he said,

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Speaker 5: it's just insane the idea that anybody thinks it's incredibly

493
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Speaker 5: likely that we destroy mankind. Now, he said, now a

494
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Speaker 5: catastrophic event unlike anything mankind has ever seen. A much

495
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Speaker 5: much higher on that, but destroying mankind completely. I was like, what, Oh, okay,

496
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Speaker 5: so you're better a case scenario ain't great? Yeah, soon

497
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Speaker 5: you're narrowing it to absolutely destroys mankind completely, human beings

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Speaker 5: no longer exist on earth.

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Speaker 1: Anything short of that is fine. What the hell kind

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Speaker 1: of a mindset is that? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Again, this guy's probably great in the lab, but I

502
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Speaker 5: don't want them in charge of anything. So a lot

503
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Speaker 5: of so what he's describing would reduce the population by what,

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Speaker 5: I don't know, ten to ninety eight percent.

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Speaker 4: Well, right, and he actually said something like, you know,

506
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Speaker 4: there would still be millions of people left that could

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Speaker 4: procreate and rebuild society. Well, I don't think most of

508
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Speaker 4: us want to live through whatever that would be.

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Speaker 1: You freaking weirdo.

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Speaker 5: Just alerting you to the fact that some of the

511
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Speaker 5: people that are in charge of these systems that are

512
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Speaker 5: going to take over the world have these crazy, crazy

513
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Speaker 5: outlooks on thing.

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Speaker 4: But just getting to pe do them to pay this off.

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Speaker 4: One to five percent means you're very optimistic. A lot

516
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Speaker 4: of researchers are optimistic that it won't destroy mankind. Five

517
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Speaker 4: to fifteen percent is considered moderate concern. It's common among

518
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Speaker 4: people who think their risks are real but manageable. Fifteen

519
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Speaker 4: percent likelihood of completely destroying mankind seems incredibly high, and

520
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Speaker 4: like being really blase to.

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Speaker 1: Let that go.

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Speaker 5: Twenty to fifty percent, and this is what I wanted

523
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Speaker 5: to mention, twenty to fifty percent fairly worried. A lot

524
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Speaker 5: of current and former open AI and thropic and deep

525
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Speaker 5: mind safety people land in this category. Twenty eight to

526
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Speaker 5: fifty percent. You think it's fifty percent likely this is going.

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Speaker 1: To destroy mankind on planet Earth.

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Speaker 5: All of you people that work for all of these

529
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Speaker 5: big a AI corporations.

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Speaker 1: So let it gets started, let's get to work. Percent likely,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: And then you've got I've talked about Eli Yudkowski, who

533
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Speaker 4: wrote the book that just came out a couple months ago.

534
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Speaker 4: If anyone builds it, everyone dies. He's at ninety nine

535
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Speaker 4: percent and has to been for quite some time, and

536
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Speaker 4: there are other people like him.

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Speaker 5: But the fact that there are lots of people that

538
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Speaker 5: are at fifty percent, how isn't this not a bigger conversation?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 5: JT and Livermore suggests that let's let's retitle that if

541
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Speaker 5: China builds it, we all die. If China gets there first,

542
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Speaker 5: do you really think they won't ask it to help

543
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Speaker 5: wipe America off the face of the planet. So I'd

544
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Speaker 5: argue it's one hundred percent likely that if China builds

545
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Speaker 5: it first, the world is screamed. But if America builds

546
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Speaker 5: it first, we might actually secure safety and freedom for

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Speaker 5: the whole planet. So if even if Musk is right

548
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Speaker 5: about the twenty percent likelihood that AI kills us. I'll

549
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Speaker 5: gladly take the eighty percent likelihood that it helps spread

550
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Speaker 5: American values over the absolute certainty that China win.

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Speaker 4: We're all screamed, Yeah, I think you're missing the point

552
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Speaker 4: that if it becomes super intelligence, ain't nobody controlling it, US,

553
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Speaker 4: China or anybody else. It's going to do whatever it

554
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Speaker 4: wants to do. It's not being created, it's growing. It's

555
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Speaker 4: currently growing, and it's growing in ways they didn't predict

556
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Speaker 4: and have no idea how fast it's going to grow.

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Speaker 1: It's on its own now, it's out there doing its thing.

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Speaker 5: Even if you fully accept that and comprehend that America's

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Speaker 5: got to be first to get it, and then when

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Speaker 5: darn it.

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Speaker 4: building something where a lot of people in charge. I

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Speaker 4: think there's a fifty percent chance that it wipes us out.

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Speaker 1: It's almost hard to wrap your head around. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: choose not to.

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Speaker 5: I uh, I can't do anything about it, so I'm

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Speaker 1: It's like the ultimate.

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Speaker 4: Human nature thing, I guess, and kind of like I

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Speaker 4: things that are, you know, not in our best interest.

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Speaker 5: It's just, yeah, I think. And I'm not a theologian.

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Speaker 5: I'm not you know, a terribly devout person, but there

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Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely as we can't resist an impulse even though

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Speaker 4: we know it's going to destroy us. There is some

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Speaker 4: Adam and even the garden thing going on. There, no

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Speaker 4: doubt about it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we've acquired the knowledge that we cannot handle and

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Speaker 5: it will kill us.

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Speaker 1: And if you.

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Speaker 5: Believe in God, we know it going and we're still

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Speaker 5: doing it well. And if you believe in God is

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Speaker 5: held as described by Judeo Christian traditions, the idea that

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Speaker 5: we had a couple of million years, a few million

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Speaker 5: years was a good run, and now it's time to

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Speaker 5: end and onto the next thing, or maybe stripping it

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Speaker 5: down to the five percent of the population excuse me,

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Speaker 5: and going from there. That's not crazy Noah's ark, et cetera.

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Speaker 5: It's it's not like it's not been thought of before.

622
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Speaker 5: It's been thought of and described many times, several times. Anyway,

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Speaker 5: stuff that's good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Any thoughts, Texas or emails more on the way. Armstrong

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Speaker 1: and Getty the most depressing radio show ever. That's a liberal.

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Speaker 4: Probably the top Republican publication in my mind in American

627
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Speaker 4: National Review has got an editorial board piece out. If

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Speaker 4: Trump wants to use military forced to Toppe Maduro, he

629
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Speaker 4: needs to call to Congress and ask for authorization.

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Speaker 5: That's their take. Mm hmm, yeah, I don't know if

631
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Speaker 5: you get it. Would he get it?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 5: No, I would guess not, because there's nobody in America

634
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Speaker 5: who's running around pitching the idea of attacking Venezuela. I

635
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Speaker 5: mean it has no constituency. I mean, we might not

636
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Speaker 5: like drug cartels and that sort of thing, but.

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Speaker 1: What happens next.

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Speaker 5: And even we have like their top three generals have said,

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Speaker 5: oh yeah, I'm totally down with the plan.

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Speaker 1: I would love to be allied with the United States.

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Speaker 1: Let's get this done.

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Speaker 4: It would be a quadmire given our recent experiments with

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Speaker 4: regime change. I don't think a majority of Americans probably

644
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Speaker 4: want to give.

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Speaker 5: That a world be my guess. I think you're absolutely right. Oh,

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Speaker 5: speaking of Maduro, this is amusing. Establishments like CNN, the

647
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Speaker 5: Associated Press, and The New York Times have all, in

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Speaker 5: various articles, embraced the new narrative about Venezuela's Cartel de

649
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Speaker 5: la Solis. It doesn't actually exist. It's not real. It's

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Speaker 5: it's it's been made up, in spite of the fact

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Speaker 5: that all of them covered the Biden administration prosecuting successfully

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Speaker 5: a higher up known as El Poyo the Chicken back

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Speaker 5: in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: This guy got extradited, uh and prosecutor.

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Speaker 5: I want a better nickname. If I'm gonna be a

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Speaker 5: high up drug kingpin, I don't want to be the chicken. Yeah,

657
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Speaker 5: that's kind of weak, dudes. Look, I'm not gonna shoot

658
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Speaker 5: anybody over this, but the chicken really not the cock.

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Speaker 1: You don't even get to be that now it just

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Speaker 1: says el poyo anyway.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, back when that was happening in the Biden administration,

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Speaker 5: US labels Madua tied Cartel del Solis is a terror organization.

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Speaker 5: It's not a cartel per se, is the current headline

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Speaker 5: in the AP But back in the day when the

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Speaker 5: Biden administration was prosecuting them, it was that dangerous freebody

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Speaker 5: always overplays their hand. You can go ahead and be

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Speaker 5: against regime change in Venezuela. You don't have to pretend

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Speaker 5: that they're not a narco state to do it, right, right, Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I got this story I wanted to touch on. There

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Speaker 5: is a homeless encampment near the Space Needle in Seattle.

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Speaker 5: It's gained international media attention. Well, Seattle, after a very

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Speaker 5: brief jog toward the right, and not just toward the right,

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Speaker 5: from like openly communists to reasonable liberal, is now going

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Speaker 5: to veer back leftward as mayor elect Katie Wilson, who

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Speaker 5: is just a treat takes office in January of twenty six,

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Speaker 5: the Space Needle homeless camp is growing like a weed,

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Speaker 5: and she has vowed to end junkie camp cleanups. They

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Speaker 5: call them homeless camps to hide the fact that it's

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Speaker 5: almost entirely junkies, but the growing camp highlights Seattle's worsening

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Speaker 5: homeless crisis, as Microsoft just announced it's moving its Build

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty six conference to Las Vegas and away from Seattle.

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Speaker 5: It is widely believed this is due to safety concerns.

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Speaker 4: Around the Seattle convigs, Microsoft itself having their conference in

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Speaker 4: a different town.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I know, it's amazing. Let's see moving a

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Speaker 5: long wasn't going to jump on. It's gonna take a

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Speaker 5: little while to explain. You're about to see a bunch

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Speaker 5: of new lawsuits against the oil industry. There is a

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Speaker 5: new venture fund backed law firm backed by lefty hedge

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Speaker 5: fund guys that are going to be filing suit all

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Speaker 5: over the place. So look forward to hearing about that.

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Speaker 5: That's where it's coming from. And you know, we have

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Speaker 5: been somewhat to remiss in not reporting on Governor Tim

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Speaker 5: of more than a billion dollars in taxpayer funds, and

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Speaker 5: then Waltz is trying to blame Trump for failing to

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Speaker 5: stop the scheme. Man, these lefty schemes to hand out money,

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