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Speaker 1: to the program. So excited to have you tuning in tonight.

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Speaker 1: Mark Vanderman or John Harris with you, joined by the

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Speaker 1: General John McClean Brandon on the board producing, and we've

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Speaker 1: got a good one for you tonight, as we've got

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Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers at NRG Stadium. Johnny, good evening.

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Speaker 1: How are you, my friend? I'm doing okay? Mark, how

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Speaker 1: you doing? I'm so good, just so good. Talking football?

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Speaker 1: It is great, and look I would like a better record,

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Speaker 1: but hey, sure you gotta start somewhere. Maybe it starts Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you're going a little winning streak, how about that?

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Speaker 1: Who knows. Let's one of those up and let's welcome

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Speaker 1: into General. John McClean from the Houston Chronicle, General, how

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Speaker 1: are you well? I gotta warn you, guys, I just

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Speaker 1: to talk about the column I wrote for day about

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Speaker 1: how great Deshaun Watson and the passing game is working,

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Speaker 1: because it is these last four games. Watson right now,

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Speaker 1: he's going for three hundred yards for a fourth game

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Speaker 1: in a row, first time in his career. Five games

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Speaker 1: per attempt. He leads the league in average per team

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Speaker 1: taxon second twenty plus past plays to Dallas is twenty eighth.

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Speaker 1: They have twenty seven. So this off this passing game,

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Speaker 1: not the offense, because there's still terrible running. This passing

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Speaker 1: game is working. And they showed Sunday if you can

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Speaker 1: go to Tennessee and you're good enough to beat the Titans,

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Speaker 1: which they didn't do because of the defense, But if

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Speaker 1: you're good enough to beat the Titans up there, you're

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Speaker 1: good enough. If us is playing the way he's capable

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Speaker 1: and has been, you're capable capable of beating anybody. And

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Speaker 1: these last three losses beginning in Pittsburgh, were one score

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Speaker 1: defeats in which if defense had just played a little better,

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Speaker 1: this team might have three or four victories. Yeah, John,

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Speaker 1: you had the lead going into the fourth quarter in

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Speaker 1: three of the games so far and the Texans only

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Speaker 1: able to win one of them. But discussing this offense,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. You are capable of winning games

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Speaker 1: with an offense like this. Do you think they just

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Speaker 1: sort of give it, not give in, but assigned themselves

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Speaker 1: And I think established the run is just such a cliche.

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Speaker 1: They want to run the ball, but how do you

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Speaker 1: when they were ninth and rushing eighth year before that.

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Speaker 1: They like to run. But Bill Ryan called fewer running

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Speaker 1: the onus on Watson, and rightfully so. And a big

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Speaker 1: part of that running success the last two years was Watson.

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Speaker 1: He's running a whole lot less than he has been

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Speaker 1: But lad David Johnson, run when they don't expect it,

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Speaker 1: not when they do expect it, because they have struggled

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Speaker 1: But you said you wrote an article about the defense,

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Speaker 1: There is only one good thing about this defense. They

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Speaker 1: so exasperating for Anthony Weaver and my lead on my

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Speaker 1: He took all the blame today, which is noble, but

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Speaker 1: Over the second half the season, they played Detroit and

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Speaker 1: Cleveland and Cincinnati and Indie twice. And I still think

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Speaker 1: consecutive game, which is unprecedented in NFL history. So I

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Speaker 1: when they're one in five tied with Minnesota, is the

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Speaker 1: most disappointing teams in the NFL. Yeah, in Minnesota beat

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Speaker 1: don't want to debate who's more of disappointing. That's not

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Speaker 1: All right, General John McClean is with us. John. The

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Speaker 1: talk this week outside the building has been on, oh,

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Speaker 1: the trade deadlines coming November third. Something else is happening

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Speaker 1: that day too. I can't remember what it is, but

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Speaker 1: November three is the NFL trade deadline. And what are

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on all the chatter outside of the organization

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Speaker 1: about well, you need to dump players and get picks

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Speaker 1: and whatever. I mean, do they really have this kind

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Speaker 1: of mindset in your opinion? No, And first of all,

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Speaker 1: I don't care what's chattering outside. I want to know

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Speaker 1: what the chattering inside now everybody's talking about what trade

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Speaker 1: JJ Watt? Well, JJ's got one more year left on

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Speaker 1: his contract. He'll be thirty two years old. He can

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Speaker 1: still play. Showed us in the game Sunday. You know

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Speaker 1: PJ Hall turned out to be a great fine. Aaron

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Speaker 1: Wilson is writing about him tomorrow in the Chronicle that'll

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Speaker 1: there are I would call if I was Jack Easterby,

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Speaker 1: I'd call every team in the league and I'd say, hey,

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Speaker 1: we got a tight end. It was a third round

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Speaker 1: be interested in trading for him? And so what he

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Speaker 1: we got three other tight ends here, and find somebody

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Speaker 1: to give him a pick. Kenny Stills last year of

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Speaker 1: his contract. If they trade trade Kenny as soon as

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Speaker 1: And they got four But if they like rookie Isaiah Coulter.

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Speaker 1: If they think Kiki qt might actually get on the field,

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Speaker 1: because I don't expect Kenny back here next year. But

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Speaker 1: as far as unloading players, I mean, number one, you

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Speaker 1: Whitney Mercills. Whitney didn't start at that game because they

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Speaker 1: Martin full time brand Scarlett, somebody need a big, strong,

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Speaker 1: strong side linebacker, guys like that. But you know, Zach

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Speaker 1: not sure they would get back in a fire sale

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Speaker 1: what they really would want, which would be a first

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Speaker 1: and to our second round pick. Anyways, John I've watched this,

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Speaker 1: the ball exceptionally well. But John, I'm gonna make a

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Speaker 1: most balanced offense in the league. He's been there with

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Speaker 1: four coaches, and Vrabel promoted him to offensive coordinator last year.

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Speaker 1: He's been terrific. Brian day Ball of Buffalo, I don't

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Speaker 1: think anybody should hold it against him that the Bills

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Speaker 1: have loss two in a row, but people say he's

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Speaker 1: on his way somebody. I would not rule out as

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Speaker 1: Todd Bowles just because he had a losing record with

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Speaker 1: the Jets. One year he won ten games. He's one

436
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Speaker 1: of the best defensive coordinators ever. He's reunited with Bruce

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Speaker 1: arians that he is doing a great job for the Buccaneers.

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Speaker 1: Matt Eberfloss we mentioned earlier. Wink Martindale from the Ravens

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Speaker 1: is another guy. Everybody's talking about a head coaching candidates,

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Speaker 1: so there's not going to be as shortage. The key

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Speaker 1: is other teams like Atlanta is also looking for a GM.

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Speaker 1: Atlanta and Houston, to me right now, are the two

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Speaker 1: best jobs because they have ownership that provides a lot

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Speaker 1: of money. They hire the best people. They've both been

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Speaker 1: incredibly patient. They give them the money. They want to

446
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Speaker 1: know what's going going on, but they don't tell them

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Speaker 1: what to do. You know, Kel McNair doesn't step in

448
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: and said, hey, do not trade DeAndre Hopkins. He said, okay,

449
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Speaker 1: maybe he didn't agree with it, but I'm paying you

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Speaker 1: guys to make this decision. And that's the kind of

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Speaker 1: job and ownership that a general manager and a coach

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Speaker 1: who want to work for. So they're going to be

453
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Speaker 1: in competition with the Falcons for gems and head coaches.

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Speaker 1: And I'd be interviewing them right now if they're available

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Speaker 1: to interview and picking everybody's brains about my team. General,

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Speaker 1: What do you have going out on the Houston Chronicle.

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Speaker 1: How I'm writing this column about defense tomorrow and Wilson's

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Speaker 1: writing about p J. Hall and talked to his high

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Speaker 1: school and his college coach as that kid is playing

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Speaker 1: very well. We've got our podcasts up there, and be

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Speaker 1: sure our TV show on Channel two after Sports Sunday,

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Speaker 1: the Texas Sports Nation is there every week. Thank you

463
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Speaker 1: guys very much, and I'll see you Sunday. See you Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a newspaper, The Houston Chronicle. TV

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Speaker 1: podcasts dining, No, they don't have dining. I don't think

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Speaker 1: they have a dining section, all right. John Harris sticks

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Speaker 1: around let's talk about this game some of the other

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Speaker 1: stuff going on around the National Football League. Did we

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Speaker 1: get a Sunday flex in the middle of a week

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Speaker 1: prior to that Sunday like boom, We're just gonna move

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Speaker 1: a game to Sunday. Yes, we did, and it is

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Speaker 1: coming up that information for you next here on Texans Radio.

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Speaker 1: What are the experts predicting about this week's big game?

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Speaker 1: Extra points Saturday nights at ten thirty or after the

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Speaker 1: late local news on ABC thirteen. Okay, boy, you never

476
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Speaker 1: know what. They're gonna make a promo about Anthony Weaver

477
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Speaker 1: saying the run defense as atrocious. I guess he used

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Speaker 1: the word Johnny, So yeah, he did. I remember when

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Speaker 1: I asked that question. I answered that. I remember asking

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Speaker 1: that question, and I remember hear him say run game

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Speaker 1: is a Trocha was like, I didn't want him to

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Speaker 1: go there. I didn't want I didn't want him to

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Speaker 1: say that. But you know, he's he's been right. But

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Speaker 1: here here's the thing Mark can can invent for just

485
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Speaker 1: a quick set. Okay, and then you know football. One

486
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Speaker 1: of the things I love about football is when to

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Speaker 1: win football games and to be successful in particular plays

488
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Speaker 1: and to do that over and over and over again.

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Speaker 1: To win games, you need all eleven guys to do

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Speaker 1: the right thing at the right time, and Mark, there

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Speaker 1: are times when all eleven guys do the right thing

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Speaker 1: that they're supposed to do, that they're coached to do.

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Speaker 1: This defense stuffs Derrick Henry. It makes plays at the

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Speaker 1: line scrimmage, it one or two yard games in the

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Speaker 1: run game. But then somebody hops out of a gap.

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Speaker 1: Somebody for whatever, I don't know why, somebody hops out

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Speaker 1: of a gap. You know, a linebacker um steps into

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Speaker 1: somebody else's gap that's already occupied by three different players,

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Speaker 1: and then he hangs there and he can't get back

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Speaker 1: over to the gap he's supposed to be in, Like,

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Speaker 1: how do you like? That's the thing that bugs me

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Speaker 1: is that, yes, the run defense is atrocious, and so

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Speaker 1: the first thought is what's the first thought? Oh, well,

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Speaker 1: the guys must be getting blown off the ball, if anything,

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Speaker 1: Mark the defensive tackles in his defense. Yeah, they get

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Speaker 1: pushed around a little bit because they're not the biggest

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Speaker 1: guys in the world. But those guys are doing everything

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Speaker 1: humanly possible to hold the ground that they can and

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Speaker 1: to be responsible for the gaps are responsible for and

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Speaker 1: there I mean PJ. Hall has played his guts out

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Speaker 1: Ross Blacklock when he win the game the other day.

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Speaker 1: You know, we told us he was in for twenty

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Speaker 1: four plays. He did a whale of a job. I

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Speaker 1: thought in the plays US and Ross Blacklock play Brandon

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Speaker 1: Dunne fight his guts out. Brandon dunn is the kind

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Speaker 1: of guy you can rely on to have his job

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Speaker 1: done every single play. Now, Brandon's given up in certain

518
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Speaker 1: cases ten, twelve, fifteen pounds to interior guys, but he'll

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Speaker 1: hold up a number of times. The interior is not

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Speaker 1: what's hurting this team. The interior is not what's hurt

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Speaker 1: this team. Want to say that a couple of times

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Speaker 1: because I know that's what people think, like, oh, the

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Speaker 1: interior is killing, and say, no, it's not. The interior

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Speaker 1: is actually playing pretty darn well that if you had

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Speaker 1: your second level guys playing at the same pace and

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Speaker 1: rate that the interior guys are playing, you'd have a

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Speaker 1: top ten run defense. But they're not asking this, all right,

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Speaker 1: what about let's say Grenard. Right, I'm not saying that

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Speaker 1: he's the answer, but clearly, you know, and people ask

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Speaker 1: me about this third round pick. I just think that

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Speaker 1: it's got to be something where you know, they see

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Speaker 1: him every day, right, you know, if Grenard was Lawrence

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Speaker 1: Taylor in practice, I don't think they're holding him out,

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Speaker 1: you know, like, oh, we got to play him so

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Speaker 1: and I don't know, you know, you and I talked

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Speaker 1: about this off of the year, I believe, and I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it was a rhetorical question, but you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously he missed time in camp and he was banged

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Speaker 1: up a little bit early. Yeah, so how do you

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Speaker 1: prove yourself in these practices which are getting less and

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Speaker 1: less physical as the weeks go on. And you can

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Speaker 1: prove that you know your assignment, but you got to

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Speaker 1: prove that you have juice and that when you get

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Speaker 1: in the game you're gonna make plays. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how a young guy does it, but it's been done before.

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Speaker 1: So I don't really know the answer to that question. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, and I think I think you're right.

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Speaker 1: I think it is partly rhetorical, but I think here's

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Speaker 1: the thing, and you could see it with Ross in

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Speaker 1: the first couple of games, and I remember we've talking

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Speaker 1: about this too, and that was playing especially in the

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Speaker 1: Big twelve. Playing defense tackle in the Big twelve and

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Speaker 1: playing defense tackle in the NFL are different worlds. They're

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Speaker 1: almost like they're two different games of football. So Ross

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Speaker 1: has to learn how to play the NFL way, and

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Speaker 1: I think he's learning that. What I saw against the

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Speaker 1: Titans shows that that young man is learning that aspect

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Speaker 1: of things. They ran this awesome tackle tackle stunt with

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Speaker 1: Ross Blacklock and PJ Hall, and I'm like, I love that.

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Speaker 1: I mean Ross jumped inside, he took the guard in

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Speaker 1: the center with him. PJ popped on the other side

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Speaker 1: and was wide opening and making a tackle or helping

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Speaker 1: an attackle for no game. I'm like, I like that.

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Speaker 1: So you have athletes that you can do that with.

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Speaker 1: But I think with what Ross is learning now by

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Speaker 1: getting those reps on the field is this is how

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Speaker 1: you play the NFL way. This is how you're supposed

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Speaker 1: this is how you're supposed to do it. And I

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Speaker 1: think he's learning that, and I think that's good. I

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Speaker 1: think John Grennard getting behind the eight ball by being

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Speaker 1: hurt and then not getting those reps where you can

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Speaker 1: prove yourself, and I think this is this is one

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Speaker 1: of the things that I think young players missed the most.

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Speaker 1: They look at and go, okay, well I'm not playing,

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Speaker 1: and they don't look at scout team as an opportunity,

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Speaker 1: whereas if they went over to Scout team and said,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go get one of these starting jobs because

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna bust boy, you know what, on the scout

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Speaker 1: team and I'm gonna tear it up. I'm gonna tear

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Speaker 1: it up. I like to be Rudy. You're playing too hard,

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Speaker 1: You're making us look bad. You don't want coming at

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Speaker 1: you saying hey, stop showboating out there. You're making us

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Speaker 1: look bad? Or Putty? Was that Putty? And Rudy is like, hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: he confronts Rudy in the parking lot. You know who

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Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, he's the guy from the program and

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Speaker 1: I can't remember his name. Um, but it's not putty

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Speaker 1: either way. I think with Grennard, when you watch him,

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Speaker 1: you see the size, you see the twitch. I think

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Speaker 1: what John has to learn is playing the game out

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Speaker 1: on an NFL edge. Again, going back to it's different

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Speaker 1: than college. What you're asked to do is different in

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Speaker 1: college because they're gonna zone read you, they're gonna option

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Speaker 1: off of you. There are certain things you're doing in

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Speaker 1: college that you have to do, and you rep and

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Speaker 1: rep and rep and rep that you're not gonna have

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Speaker 1: to rep in the NFL. And you know this week

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers isn't gonna zone read. You know, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: gonna option pitch off you more than likely, you know,

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Speaker 1: but you have to learn how to set the edge

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Speaker 1: and use your hands. And I remember, uh in year three,

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Speaker 1: I remember Whitney. I remember Vrabel just hammering that over

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Speaker 1: and old, over and over and over with he and Clowney,

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Speaker 1: so he set to edge. I mean, I would just

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Speaker 1: see Whitney like, man, I'm not doing anything right. And

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Speaker 1: then by about halfway through the year, you saw the

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Speaker 1: light go on for Whitney, like he's setting the edge,

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Speaker 1: he's playing it well, he's using his hands. Well. It

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Speaker 1: takes a little while for that to happen. And I

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Speaker 1: think once we do see John, he's probably gonna make

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Speaker 1: some of those mistakes where he's gonna think he's got

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Speaker 1: the edge set, he's gonna peek inside, He'll get pinned inside.

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Speaker 1: You know, those things are gonna happen. I would think early.

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Speaker 1: But if he can work himself through it. You've got

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Speaker 1: a twitchy athlete that can go get the quarterback and

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Speaker 1: do those things. But right now, the second level is

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Speaker 1: really hurting this team, really really hurting this team. Johnny.

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Speaker 1: There are ten teams with one or fewer victories in

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Speaker 1: the NFL right now. It's odd and you're gonna give

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Speaker 1: me which team has the best shot of these teams?

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Speaker 1: This is where we are right now at one and five,

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Speaker 1: which team is the best shot of making a run? Okay,

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Speaker 1: making the run? Now, I'm going to eliminate the NFC

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Speaker 1: East winner because that's just not fair at everybody else

624
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Speaker 1: because the leader of that division has two victories. Right So,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna say, oh, it's the Eagles, well they're

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Speaker 1: one game off the first place to win the division

627
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Speaker 1: right now at one four and one. How about the

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Speaker 1: Giants are one in five and so are the Washington

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Speaker 1: football team members at one in five and they're only

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Speaker 1: a game back. This is like the AFC South in

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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, right, so this would be beautiful. But let's

632
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Speaker 1: go here in the AFC, oh in six Jets, one

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Speaker 1: in four Chargers, maybe one in four Bengals, no, one

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Speaker 1: in five Texans, one in five Jags. There's the AFC bunch. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think the Chargers could do it. Um, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I like him. By the way, we haven't

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Speaker 1: talked Herbert much. Yeah, justin Herbert. Yeah, Mark, when I

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Speaker 1: went to i' you know, Herbert was the kind of

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Speaker 1: guy that going into you know, he decided to go

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Speaker 1: back to Oregon, and everybody in the NFL scouting world

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Speaker 1: was like, you know, you know he's scared. Oh he's

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Speaker 1: not a leader. You know he likes Mariota. Yeah, yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: and oh he chose to go back to or look

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Speaker 1: the guys from me. He grew up in Eugene, Oregon,

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Speaker 1: like it was. It was his dream to go play

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Speaker 1: for the Organ Ducks, and so he did and they

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Speaker 1: did some great things. They played in the stinking Rose Bowl. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, that was what he wanted to do. And

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Speaker 1: then it's like, okay, let's go to the NFL. And Mark,

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Speaker 1: I saw him at the Senior Bowl and I saw

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Speaker 1: he and Josh Allen up close at the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 1: And I remember coming back to the Senior Bowl thinking

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Speaker 1: that guy's arm is as good as just as Josh Allens.

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Speaker 1: And I think Josh Allen has the strongest arm in

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Speaker 1: the league, and I know, oh, Patrick Mahomes, No, Patrick

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Speaker 1: Mahomes has the most accurate strongest arm in the league.

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen still sprays it. But I watched Justin Herbert

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Speaker 1: throw twenty five yard out routes from the opposite sideline

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Speaker 1: from the opposite to hash other sideline on a rope

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Speaker 1: and it's I did the math on I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 1: pythagree theorem. That's like a forty two yard throw and

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Speaker 1: he drilled it. But they just they they're not winning

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Speaker 1: close games. And I don't think that's Herbert's issue. Um,

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Speaker 1: they just I don't know if they have any closers.

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Speaker 1: And defensively they've been playing without Melbourn Ingram and I

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Speaker 1: think that's that's a big, big loss for them. I

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Speaker 1: think he just knows where he wants to go with

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Speaker 1: the football immediately, and not a lot of young quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: to do. But he's got to get protection. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: NFC forget about the East, Yeah, because it's just a

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Speaker 1: disaster and anybody else. Oh Vikings and one in five

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Speaker 1: are friends from Minnesota and the Falcons had one in five.

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Speaker 1: All Right, I just gave you all the one win

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Speaker 1: or fewer teams I mean of that, of those, I

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Speaker 1: think the Chargers in the Texans would be the two

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Speaker 1: because the Texans schedule lightens up a little bit in

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Speaker 1: the second half. Yeah, yeah, lighting up. I mean, but

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Speaker 1: when you think about what the Texans have faced, Chiefs

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Speaker 1: five and one, Ravens five and one, the Steelers still undefeated,

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Speaker 1: five and oh, the Titans five and oh, I mean

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Speaker 1: those are four the those are four the six teams

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Speaker 1: they've faced. So on the flip side of that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: she'll face the Titans. But in weeks seventeen, if the Titans,

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Speaker 1: you know, if the Titans owner position to have clinched

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Speaker 1: this thing, then you know, maybe that maybe facing maybe

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Speaker 1: the tide turns and now we're facing their JV team

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Speaker 1: with a shot to get a wild card or whether

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Speaker 1: the case might be, who knows, but you have to

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Speaker 1: go Here's here's the key to the second half of

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Speaker 1: the season, and that is you better go winning in

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Speaker 1: places like Chicago and Destroit. Teams that, yeah, Chicago's got

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Speaker 1: a good record, but how good is Chicago really are

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Speaker 1: they kind of on borrowed time? Who knows? But the

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Speaker 1: point being the charges of The Texans are really the

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Speaker 1: only two teams I think you play with the upper

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Speaker 1: echelon and be in games with them. The Vikings and

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Speaker 1: the Falcons. I think they could depending on what side

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Speaker 1: of the Ben Matt Ryan and Kirk Cousins wake up

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Speaker 1: on um. It's it's got to send a message to

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Speaker 1: the rest of the squad when you tradeing got way.

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Speaker 1: You know Hunters out, which you know that was not unexpected,

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Speaker 1: but it's it's an interesting dynamic going on up there.

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Speaker 1: Johnny got a break. Thanks so much for being with

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Speaker 1: us tonight. Absolutely, Mark, take care and I didn't pay

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Speaker 1: off the tease. I will let you know what games

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Speaker 1: being moved to Sunday. No, it's not the Texans. I

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Speaker 1: got a text already. It's like, are the Texans moving

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Speaker 1: to Sunday Night with the Packers? No? No, let me

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Speaker 1: introduce you to network television with the national primetime windows. No,

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Speaker 1: they're not going to do that right now. Although the

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Speaker 1: game might turn out to be certainly worthy of that

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Speaker 1: in terms of entertainment value, I would not be surprised

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Speaker 1: at all. But on the marquee, the one in five

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Speaker 1: doesn't look quite as good as it could. Let's just

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Speaker 1: get there and in oh eight, what happened? And what's

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Speaker 1: happening this year? Can it happened again? It's Texans Radio.

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Speaker 1: What are the experts predicting about this week's big game?

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Speaker 1: Extra Points Saturday nights at ten thirty or after the

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Speaker 1: late local news on ABC thirteen with special guests this

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Speaker 1: week Cecil Shorts, the third former Jaguar current Texans legend.

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Speaker 1: And I really enjoyed having Cecil part of the football

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Speaker 1: team when he played here because you know, I always

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Speaker 1: liked him in Jacksonville. I always kind of, you know, follow,

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Speaker 1: How can you not follow guys in the division? And

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Speaker 1: I'm glad he's a Houstonian and he's part of our community. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what did I mentioned? Oh yeah, the Sunday night game

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00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 1: is going to be all right? So the Bucks Raiders

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00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: was going to be on Sunday Night, but the Raiders

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00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: literally practiced without without an offensive line two days in

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Speaker 1: a row. Now Texans fans who have been around from

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Speaker 1: the get go will get the inside joke here. And

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Speaker 1: I'm sure Derek Carr has either talked about it or

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Speaker 1: thought about it, because remember, going into Draft number two,

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Speaker 1: the H three draft, what does your team need they

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Speaker 1: would show Car with no offensive line. They kind of

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Speaker 1: blotted them out. They photo shop the offensive line out

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Speaker 1: because the Texans offensive line the first year they gave

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Speaker 1: up a record number of sacks seventy six against Car

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Speaker 1: and the joke was that they needed lineman going into

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Speaker 1: the draft. But here are the Raiders practicing without an

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Speaker 1: offensive line. So I'm sure he must have thought of

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Speaker 1: that commercial because Derek was very aware back in the

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Speaker 1: day when I was a little kid, so I'm sure

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Speaker 1: that came back to his noggin. Now, the Seahawks Cardinals

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Speaker 1: game that was going to be Sunday afternoon is now

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Speaker 1: Sunday nighter, and that looks like a really good one.

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Speaker 1: So NBC wins with this little deal. The Bucks Raiders

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Speaker 1: will be Sunday afternoon late. But if it has to

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Speaker 1: get called off or postponed or whatever, no harm, no foulus,

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Speaker 1: still get a Sunday night game. That's why they're doing it.

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00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: The O eight thing here, it is quickly. In O eight,

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00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: the Texans were owing four and three and seven. I

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00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: wrote about this yesterday in the Daily Brew. So think

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00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 1: about this. They were owing four and three and seven,

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Speaker 1: yet came back and had an amazing chance to go

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Speaker 1: nine and seven, which I think this year would actually

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00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: get you in the postseason. They went eight and eight

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Speaker 1: that year because they lost to JaMarcus Russell and the

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Speaker 1: Raiders in the second to last week of the season. Somehow,

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Speaker 1: the Raiders at all that speed and wide receiver. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to call it a look ahead game, but

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Speaker 1: it sure looked like that to me. I think that's

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Speaker 1: outsiders calling those things or describing those kinds of games

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Speaker 1: that way. I don't know if the players look at

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Speaker 1: it that way, but man, oh man, that was a

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Speaker 1: bizarre afternoon. Anyway, give me a chance at that. Please

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Speaker 1: give me seven and seven after fourteen? Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: All day long? I'm not saying it's going to happen,

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Speaker 1: but hey, as long as you're playing, why not enjoy

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Speaker 1: the games and hope for it to happen. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's get to this now, Houston Methodist minutes and every

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Speaker 1: week we talk about what injuries are we going to discuss,

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Speaker 1: and as you know, lately we've branched out a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to go back to COVID because I wanted

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Speaker 1: doctor Wesley Long to set the record straight. How do

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Speaker 1: you catch this thing. I know it's the droplets in

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Speaker 1: the air. We all know about the distancing, but what

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Speaker 1: about the surfaces. Is it really contagious that way? What

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Speaker 1: is the actual deal here? So I asked him if

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Speaker 1: he could possibly possibly set the record straight on this.

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Speaker 1: I think I can, all right, I can tell you

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Speaker 1: sort of the best that we know right now. You know,

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Speaker 1: COVID nineteen is a respiratory disease, and it's spread primarily

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Speaker 1: by respiratory droplet. So those are droplets when we call,

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00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 1: when we talk, that leave our mouth, leave our nose

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Speaker 1: and travel a short distance, you know, five or six feet,

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Speaker 1: And so that's what leads to all the recommendations for masks,

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Speaker 1: for social distancing and those sorts of things. We also

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Speaker 1: know from some other research that the virus can survive

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Speaker 1: on surfaces, some surfaces better than others, you know, hard

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Speaker 1: nonporous surfaces, and to be better things like that. And

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00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: you know, we also know that it's possible for other

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Speaker 1: respiratory viruses if they're on a surface, If you touch

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00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: that surface, the virus very easy to transfer onto your skin.

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Speaker 1: If you then touch your nose, touch your mouth, touch

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Speaker 1: your eye, you can transmit other viruses that way, it

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Speaker 1: seems like you should probably be able to do the

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Speaker 1: same with the COVID nineteen coronavirus. That having been said,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like that's a major mode of transmission

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Speaker 1: for the virus, perhaps because we're also aware of it

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Speaker 1: right now we're all washing our hands hopefully and doing

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Speaker 1: all the good practices we should be doing. That doesn't

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Speaker 1: seem to be the major driver. The major driver still

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00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: seems to be those respiratory droplets. And you know, situations

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Speaker 1: where people aren't wearing masks, are in a crowded setting,

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Speaker 1: can't socially distanced, can't keep that six feet apart, Those

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Speaker 1: seem to really be the times when the virus is

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Speaker 1: being transmitted person to person. Very well, all right, there's

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Speaker 1: doctor Wesley Long from Houston Methodist, official healthcare provider of

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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. Log Onto Houston Methodist dot org for

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Speaker 1: more information Houston Methodist Leading Medicine. Now. I talked to

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Speaker 1: him for a long time. So what we're gonna do

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Speaker 1: is during the buy we're gonna play that entire interview

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Speaker 1: because it's really interesting and you know, it's great to

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Speaker 1: talk to an expert, you know, I felt like Kramer

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Speaker 1: bringing his dog in when this dog had a similar cough.

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Speaker 1: It's like, wait a minute, if I have symptoms, what

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Speaker 1: am I really looking for here? You know, I think

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Speaker 1: we've all had those moments where you know, you have

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Speaker 1: like an allergy sneeze or whatever, or a dust sneeze,

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Speaker 1: and you're thinking, Hutch you COVID? Do I have it?

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Speaker 1: Everybody's paranoid, and that's just the way it's going these days. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Texans and Packers Sunday at noon, Extra Points Saturday night,

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Speaker 1: ten thirty five after the late local news on ABC thirteen,

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Speaker 1: followed by Texans three to sixty. We'll be back on

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Speaker 1: the air tomorrow at six. Have a great day, everybody,

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Speaker 1: and thank you Brandon for producing. Thank you Johnny and

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Speaker 1: John McClain for being on Go Texans. This is Texans

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