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Speaker 1: Okay, hi everybody, I'm Susie.
Speaker 3: S Man and I'm Jeff Garland and this.
Speaker 1: Is the History of curbyr Enthusiasm And this is season four,
Speaker 1: episode eight, Wandering Bear, one of our favorites.
Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, this might be my favorite
Speaker 3: episode of all time.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what's so great about this episode? And
Speaker 1: I was watching it this morning.
Speaker 2: It's so simple.
Speaker 3: Well, that's the point. It's simple, and it's.
Speaker 2: Self contained, totally self contained.
Speaker 3: There are no season stories in here. Mel's not in
Speaker 3: a Shwimmers producers nothing.
Speaker 1: But it's a very simple the way that it's it's
Speaker 1: set up. But yeah, I should go back and look
Speaker 1: at the outline because it's just it's beautifully laid out
Speaker 1: this episode.
Speaker 2: It's eloquent.
Speaker 3: But by the way, if I may, the outline in
Speaker 3: the episode are closer than usual.
Speaker 2: Oh is that true? Did you look at it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's more it's a solid blueprint of how you're
Speaker 3: going to make the building. It's not a here's the story.
Speaker 3: It's like really all there. Yeah, the only thing that
Speaker 3: a few people did was make up some dialogue. And
Speaker 3: there's a racist moment in the episode which I did
Speaker 3: not like twice. We'll get to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, and I have an interesting point about that
Speaker 1: racist moment, so we'll get to it. So we start
Speaker 1: out with Larry watching Girls Gone Wild on TV and
Speaker 1: he's having trouble with his glasses. He keeps changing his glasses.
Speaker 1: Is an issue with his glasses and the phone rings
Speaker 1: and it's.
Speaker 2: Chef Channel fifty seven watch Gut You Too. It's just
Speaker 2: fucking ridiculous in this.
Speaker 3: So this one where about as ridiculous as we've ever.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, College Girl's Gone Wild and you talk about
Speaker 1: buying it and but you know you can't send it
Speaker 1: to the house CAUSUSI would kill you and Cheryl would
Speaker 1: kill him. Send it to the office, buy the videotape.
Speaker 1: And it's a videotape. It's not a CD DHS No, there.
Speaker 3: Are no DVDs at this point to.
Speaker 1: My now, and actually just coming up is another thing.
Speaker 1: That happens, it dates the episode, and then Cheryl enters
Speaker 1: and Larry immediately changes it to some hippos, you know,
Speaker 1: hippos Savannah, and Cheryl says, have you seen my palm pilot?
Speaker 2: Another totally dating thing when we're watching.
Speaker 3: Girls Gone Wild and I am talking to him about
Speaker 3: it and I say, they're college girls and they've gone wild,
Speaker 3: which I think is a really funny line.
Speaker 1: And at the time, I do remember they were advertising
Speaker 1: those videos constantly.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, late night.
Speaker 3: Late night, every channel. It during Letterman didn't matter. And
Speaker 3: that was, by the way, that dates it too, because
Speaker 3: that was a big thing now with the advent of
Speaker 3: porn on the internet. Advent, but porn on the Internet
Speaker 3: or even titillating things are a dime a dozen. So
Speaker 3: a Girl's Gone Wild it's not really what it.
Speaker 2: Was then, Nor is the pomp pilot. I remember, No, I.
Speaker 3: Know the but I also want to say, that's my
Speaker 3: theory on shows like Sex in the City, Whereas I
Speaker 3: think there's great interest for a lot of women, especially
Speaker 3: at that time, who didn't watch porn, and that show
Speaker 3: was very risk gay, especially towards a female watching, and.
Speaker 2: So it was it was less than softcre.
Speaker 3: No, no, no way less. But I'm saying it was
Speaker 3: a justification of it was part of the.
Speaker 1: Appeal, the appeal, you know, to me, I was talking
Speaker 1: about that stuff on stage, so it meant nothing to me, right,
Speaker 1: And I always felt like those girls got laid so
Speaker 1: much more.
Speaker 2: I was a single girl in the city.
Speaker 1: Those girls got laid so much more than any single
Speaker 1: woman ever did in the city.
Speaker 2: That was like gay men.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, you know, by the way gay men
Speaker 3: have it, they just do it. When you think about
Speaker 3: it sexually, it has no bearing on their relationship. They yeah, they.
Speaker 1: Could be in a long term relationship and fuck whoever
Speaker 1: they want and it's all okay.
Speaker 3: And also, boy, their world is just filled with positivity.
Speaker 3: I think the only negativity is men who are pained
Speaker 3: to come out, because once you come.
Speaker 2: Out, that's a huge problem.
Speaker 1: But the other negativity is is people who want a discriminate.
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, we're Jews, you know what I mean. Sure,
Speaker 3: but I'm just saying that outside of closeted gaze, that lifestyle.
Speaker 3: You know, if I wasn't a heaterosexual being out of
Speaker 3: a sexual I want gay lifestyle.
Speaker 2: You know what honey, you are what you are. You
Speaker 2: can't help it.
Speaker 3: No, but I but what a fun time they have. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's really and their relations all of it. God, it's
Speaker 3: not just the having sex whatever you want, every aspect
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 2: But it's a musical theater.
Speaker 3: Yes, and look what they enjoy. Oh, fucked the gay men. Fantastic.
Speaker 2: So button. So Cheryl says to.
Speaker 1: Larry, what are you doing about the poison oak? This
Speaker 1: poison oak in their backyard? And Larry says, Jeff has
Speaker 1: an Indian guy named Wandering Bear who's apparently he's immune
Speaker 1: to it, and he handles the poison oak Wandering Bear,
Speaker 1: and he says, I'll speak to him, And then Cheryl
Speaker 1: says to him, really kind of out of nowhere. She
Speaker 1: says to him, have you noticed that we have not
Speaker 1: had sex in a very long time?
Speaker 3: Watching this thing about hippos.
Speaker 4: This is the longest we've gone since we've been married.
Speaker 3: Well, I have the dog bite.
Speaker 2: I know that was a while ago. It's better, isn't it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know you went off the pill was
Speaker 5: so we use condoms or something.
Speaker 1: Do you realize that we haven't had sex in a
Speaker 1: really long time? And She's like, what are you doing.
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm watching this thing about hippos and I
Speaker 1: still can't have sex because of the dog bite.
Speaker 2: And you went off the pill.
Speaker 1: And she says, well, why don't you use a condom
Speaker 1: because she went off the pill Apparently they don't know
Speaker 1: why exactly, and he's embarrassed. He's embarrassed to go buy
Speaker 1: a condom. And then she suggests to him, why don't
Speaker 1: you get a vas sectomy, which I think is a
Speaker 1: beautiful solution.
Speaker 3: Yep, it is. But here's the thing, just him saying
Speaker 3: to her when she asks what you're watching, and he says,
Speaker 3: watching this thing about hippos. Hippos just talk about Wow,
Speaker 3: that's awesome, all right, go ahead.
Speaker 1: So he's embarrassed to get a condom. He won't have
Speaker 1: a vas sect to me. And she leaves the room
Speaker 1: and he goes back to Girls Gone Wild and he
Speaker 1: makes a phone call because they always put up an
Speaker 1: eight hundred number for you to order the video, and
Speaker 1: he is using very very very false voice, like disguising
Speaker 1: like anybody knows his voice anyway.
Speaker 4: Yes, I was thinking about ordering the tape, the videotape
Speaker 4: about the college girls and the wild the wildness. They're
Speaker 4: going wild or something somebody told me about going wild.
Speaker 2: The college girls.
Speaker 3: What else says? I've heard that there are girls in there, girls,
Speaker 3: and there's some and there's some wildness.
Speaker 1: Then we get to Larry's office and Antoinette, his assistant,
Speaker 1: is crying because Marvin broke up with her and she
Speaker 1: can't say why. It's too personal, but things were going
Speaker 1: so well and Larry is so clearly not interested. He
Speaker 1: picks up a mento from her desk and it starts
Speaker 1: talking about the mento and that it has the essence
Speaker 1: of orange, and then he tells her all the things
Speaker 1: he needs her to do.
Speaker 3: This is half of real Larry. In other words, if
Speaker 3: he's uncomfortable, he doesn't want to hear more than a
Speaker 3: sentence at the most. But if you or I talk
Speaker 3: to him about something personal that we look to him
Speaker 3: to help us or give us a perspective, he wants
Speaker 3: to listen to every fuck.
Speaker 2: Depending on the timing if we're in the middle of shooting.
Speaker 3: Not always well, of course, if it's inconvenient. But I've
Speaker 3: found with me, he asked me a million questions because
Speaker 3: he's curious and details and just like.
Speaker 2: You, well, he also likes to fix things.
Speaker 3: Well, by the way, who can I turn to in
Speaker 3: moments like this? You? Fine way. It's so true, though,
Speaker 3: I have some other friends that are very very close
Speaker 3: to me who are very helpful. Okay, but no one
Speaker 3: as much as you and Larry. You're my shamans. You're
Speaker 3: the wise man on the hill or wise woman.
Speaker 1: Shaman is an appropriate word to use for this episode. No, yes,
Speaker 1: so that Larry's is being very insensitive to Antoinette.
Speaker 2: She's clearly upset.
Speaker 3: I just to understand, Larry.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't understand why it happened.
Speaker 1: And everything was going so well, you know, I mean
Speaker 1: I thought we were going to maybe get married.
Speaker 2: I just I didn't see this coming at all.
Speaker 1: I mean, how can things be going so well one
Speaker 1: day and you're planning a trip and then the next
Speaker 1: day it's over.
Speaker 5: Well, those ments, well, that's really good.
Speaker 3: That was the hell of a candle. You know. How
Speaker 3: did they get the essence of orange like that? It's amazing.
Speaker 1: He's being insensive. Then he's like, there's things I need
Speaker 1: you to do. I need you to get cash, I
Speaker 1: need you to do get the stuff from my corn.
Speaker 1: I need you to get good breath freshness things and
Speaker 1: cancel the lunch with Jason Small and say my mother
Speaker 1: is and she says, what what's the excuse I'm going
Speaker 1: to give? He says, say it's my mother's unveiling, which
Speaker 1: acclille is so answer, I says, so you want me
Speaker 1: to lie and get treats for the car.
Speaker 3: In an angry way. But if I may, there is
Speaker 3: a proper way to deal with that. It's called the
Speaker 3: cost of doing business. You have an assistant, she's going
Speaker 3: through something bad, you gotta listen.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 3: Then all you have to show is a beat of empathy.
Speaker 3: And I'm talking about if you really don't hair, but
Speaker 3: you feel for the person, show them some empathy and
Speaker 3: then say I know it's an awkward time, but I
Speaker 3: need these things done.
Speaker 2: Which real Larry would do that. But but show Larry.
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no, show Larry would not. Real
Speaker 3: Larry would be very thoughtful. But then again, not listening.
Speaker 1: Here, who's going crazy because he's he's jealous that I'm
Speaker 1: not paying attention to him.
Speaker 2: So say hello to Jeff. He only has one eye. Okay.
Speaker 3: See, so, by the way, Sage is with Holly, my assistant.
Speaker 3: So there.
Speaker 2: When dogs.
Speaker 3: When my assistant's not here, that door stays open so
Speaker 3: Sage doesn't get confused as to where I am. Right.
Speaker 1: They're very sensitive, Yeah, as opposed to Larry. So then
Speaker 1: antwine it hands him the tape.
Speaker 3: Your mail's here, girl's gone wild, Larry, Hey, what are
Speaker 3: you doing opening my mail?
Speaker 2: I thought it was my mail. I ordered a plate's video.
Speaker 5: Well, look says Larry David on it doesn't.
Speaker 2: Well, I was a little distracted.
Speaker 1: The college girls gone wild, and she opened it because
Speaker 1: she was expecting a tape, and Jeff Larry's like, it's
Speaker 1: for Jeff.
Speaker 2: It's for Jeff. Uh, it wasn't for me, and whatever.
Speaker 1: And then Jeff comes into the office and hands Larry condoms.
Speaker 1: He asked you, apparently to go buy him condoms, and
Speaker 1: you got him ever Last condoms. He's never gonna stop,
Speaker 1: and Larry's then he gets into all things.
Speaker 3: Never gonna stop, never gonna stop.
Speaker 5: Well, I want to come called, get it over with,
Speaker 5: not ever Last.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the only thing I want to do that for.
Speaker 3: I don't know quite long I would have yuess it's boring.
Speaker 3: Come on, fucking's boring. It doesn't get boring after a while. No,
Speaker 3: it doesn't boring. It's enough in and out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like.
Speaker 1: It to last all night. I like to get it
Speaker 1: over with. It gets boring, you know. And he said,
Speaker 1: Larry's like, worried, what if I can't get it on?
Speaker 1: And then you're like, it lasts all night? It lasts
Speaker 1: all night. And then he asks you about wandering Bear
Speaker 1: and you say you're having problems with me wandering Bear
Speaker 1: because Susie doesn't want you to pay him because he
Speaker 1: went two hundred dollars over the estimate. This is where
Speaker 1: that comes in, right, And then he tells you he
Speaker 1: wants to fire Internet.
Speaker 2: But he can't.
Speaker 3: She's closed to the door.
Speaker 2: It's because she knows too much.
Speaker 1: She knows his dietary habits, she knows his webs of
Speaker 1: lies and deceit.
Speaker 2: She'll destroy me. He says, we'll be right back. Stay tuned. Okay,
Speaker 2: we're back.
Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you, as someone who if you
Speaker 3: remember on Kurb, I would fire assistance constantly because I
Speaker 3: don't suffer fools. But I want to say, if early
Speaker 3: on you get a sight of this person maybe a
Speaker 3: little bit off, or this person is already screwing up stuff,
Speaker 3: you gotta go for the instant fire.
Speaker 2: Do you ask assistance to sign an MDA D.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my lawyer has made me the past couple of times.
Speaker 2: But that being said, but that's a newer thing at
Speaker 2: this time. I don't think they're.
Speaker 3: Still gonna say something to somebody.
Speaker 2: Larry has had well. Laura is now our coe p.
Speaker 1: She started out as his assistant twenty four years ago.
Speaker 2: But she knows where all the bodies are.
Speaker 3: But she's also not weird, not not now, and so
Speaker 3: thoughtful and reliable. She might she might be. She has
Speaker 3: one of my favorite people on.
Speaker 1: Her and she loves Larry and she would not do
Speaker 1: anything to harm him.
Speaker 2: But she's got a lot, I mean in assistance.
Speaker 1: The whole thing about it is not only do they
Speaker 1: know your personal shit, they know your pin number for
Speaker 1: your ATM, They know, I mean, like everything.
Speaker 3: My assistant knows everything. But I would stake my life
Speaker 3: that she would never do anything to harm me Antoinette.
Speaker 1: Larry thinks it is going to harm him because she
Speaker 1: knows all about Tony is.
Speaker 3: Right, because she has shown that she's a whack adoodle,
Speaker 3: which you know.
Speaker 1: So he's you say to him, you're trapped, and then
Speaker 1: we cut to our house and you and Larry are
Speaker 1: sitting down to watch your delightful tape of college Girls
Speaker 1: Gone Wild, but l Larry says, pause it because he's
Speaker 1: having trouble with his glasses. He wants to go out
Speaker 1: to the car and get a different pair of glasses.
Speaker 1: And you pause it, and Larry goes out to get
Speaker 1: the glasses, and he leaves the door open.
Speaker 2: When he comes back in.
Speaker 1: You're watching for a couple of minutes, and then you say,
Speaker 1: where's Oscar, who was our German shepherd? And there's no Oscar.
Speaker 1: He left the door open and Oscar got out, And
Speaker 1: then you're driving around the neighborhold on.
Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on, just from him switching his glasses
Speaker 3: at the top.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 3: It's such a subtle setup you think nothing of it,
Speaker 3: and lo and behold it.
Speaker 1: Comes in exactly. That's the brilliance of it. I agree.
Speaker 1: So you guys are driving around looking for Oscar. A
Speaker 1: Prius driver drives by and doesn't do a high sign
Speaker 1: to Larry. And at this time this is the first
Speaker 1: it's the first stinky one.
Speaker 3: It's the first hybrid car, first Prius.
Speaker 1: And he's upset about that because he feels like Prius
Speaker 1: drivers are special breeds of people and they should acknowledge
Speaker 1: each other.
Speaker 2: And Larry says, you know what, I want to see
Speaker 2: what's up with that guy?
Speaker 3: See what's up with that guy? What are you doing?
Speaker 3: What are you gonna do after you catch him?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oscar is in the street and he
Speaker 1: hits Oscar. But Oscar seems okay, he gets up, he
Speaker 1: seems What a beautiful dog that dog was.
Speaker 3: I know, but also in this situation, like it was
Speaker 3: my dog, there's no doubt that they would be at
Speaker 3: the vet just to make sure. Yeah, of course it's
Speaker 3: always a big ball. Not sorry, with a child, a dog, anyone.
Speaker 2: But not you two.
Speaker 1: You two decide you're too hot to go watch College
Speaker 1: Girls Gone Wild. We're gonna go back to the house.
Speaker 1: We're gonna watch the video and monitor Oscar. Well, monitor Oscar.
Speaker 1: You make that very clear. He seems fine, and he
Speaker 1: seems fine.
Speaker 3: And if there's any problem, you make a page.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you make a pack.
Speaker 3: Problems, you know. But these guys, what they have in
Speaker 3: common is they're both selfish. The only person that I'm
Speaker 3: not selfish with is Larry.
Speaker 2: But I think selfish is what's funny.
Speaker 5: I mean that's what No, no, no, no, no no, I'm
Speaker 5: not saying it's not funny, but I actually think it's
Speaker 5: hilarious how selfish they are.
Speaker 3: However, I would do anything for Larry and he would
Speaker 3: do anything for me. We're the two. Not that he
Speaker 3: wouldn't do.
Speaker 2: Anything for sh in the show.
Speaker 3: In the show, yeah, there's nothing he wouldn't do for me,
Speaker 3: and which we've proved episode in episode up, that we
Speaker 3: wouldn't do for each other. So I say, Cheryl, and
Speaker 3: he'd do a lot, he'd do mostly everything for but
Speaker 3: he can really confide in me like you can't confide
Speaker 3: in her. And then of course I only do things
Speaker 3: for you because I'm scared.
Speaker 2: Because you're scared, Yes you should be.
Speaker 1: So if we notice anything wrong what we're watching the table,
Speaker 1: take them immediately to the vet, which I don't buy
Speaker 1: for a second.
Speaker 2: And then Larry's in bed.
Speaker 3: By the way, I thought when he had trouble putting
Speaker 3: on his seat belt that that would lead to something else.
Speaker 2: It doesn't. I thought so too, but.
Speaker 3: Maybe it did initially and could something, But.
Speaker 1: It also could have just been one of those moments
Speaker 1: where he hated the fucking seat belt and he just
Speaker 1: wanted to, you know, show how annoying the seat belt
Speaker 1: is and the freest who knows.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: Then we see Larry's in bed with an afterglow. Apparently
Speaker 1: he and Cheryl had just had sex, and he says
Speaker 1: it pays to lay off sex for a while, like
Speaker 1: when Mantell was injured in sixty three first at Bet
Speaker 1: he hit a home run. No woman wants to hear that.
Speaker 2: No one, no, no.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, you say no woman, would you
Speaker 3: want to hear that?
Speaker 2: Not right after sex? I don't want to hear about.
Speaker 3: A huge Yankee fan. Yes, but tell the listeners what
Speaker 3: I've given you.
Speaker 2: You gave me a Mickey Mantle.
Speaker 3: Uh old Mickey? Yes, yeah, great.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: Down in my office. I'm not in my office recording
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're in actually Ben Vereen's house.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: And then Cheryl walks in the room looking very perturbed,
Speaker 1: and something really strange is happening. She's completely numbed down
Speaker 1: there nothing, it has never happened before. And then Larry
Speaker 1: realizes that he had the everlast condom on inside out
Speaker 1: and it has lighta kane, which is a numbing substance
Speaker 1: as we all know. And Cheryl's just like, how do
Speaker 1: you not know how to put on a condom? Fifteen
Speaker 1: year old boys do it every day. And then the
Speaker 1: phone rings and it's jeff and he tells you about
Speaker 1: Cheryl's numb vagina and you ever heard of a numb vagina?
Speaker 1: And you tell him Oscar's not good and screaming off
Speaker 1: the set is me saying, Jeffrey, what did you do
Speaker 1: to this dog? And then you say to Larry, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry about Cheryl's vagina. Next we cut to Larry's on
Speaker 1: the patio.
Speaker 3: I wrote the word nightmare with an exclamation point. Does
Speaker 3: anyone mention nightmare in the scene?
Speaker 2: Probably Cheryl or Larry. It's a nightmare for Cheryl.
Speaker 3: She can't know that I made a point of it
Speaker 3: being something interesting and funny, and I've forgotten. Let's keep going.
Speaker 1: Larry's on the patio and Cheryl is just, you know,
Speaker 1: she feels like her vagina is shot with novakane.
Speaker 3: And then still it's the next day and it's it's.
Speaker 1: Still, yes, it's still it's still numb. And then we
Speaker 1: meet Wandering Bear, who was Russell means, who Russell Means
Speaker 1: was an Indian activist. And by the way, Russell means
Speaker 1: does not like the word Native American. He prefers Indians
Speaker 1: because he feels as though we are all Native Americans, right,
Speaker 1: And he prefers Indians Indian.
Speaker 3: And by the way, Russell means a guy you listen to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, also an actor who was in a lot of
Speaker 1: movies and an activist, was for many, many years a
Speaker 1: Native American Indian activist. And Larry says to him. He
Speaker 1: comes up and he's carrying, you know, branches and things,
Speaker 1: and Larry tells him that he should go to Jeff
Speaker 1: and Susie's and demand payment. And Wandering Bear says, what
Speaker 1: goes around comes.
Speaker 3: From Oh no, no, no, he says, hold on, hold on,
Speaker 3: hold on, He says.
Speaker 2: As an old Indian saying, what goes around comes around.
Speaker 3: You sure that's Indian? I thought that was English. I
Speaker 3: couldn't play to anyone. Hey, Wandering Bear, let me let
Speaker 3: me ask you a question.
Speaker 5: You're a shaman of sorts, you know all about plants
Speaker 5: and herbs, and kind of a medicine man in a way.
Speaker 5: Last night I put a condom on inside out and
Speaker 5: my wife's vagina is completely numb. Do you know of
Speaker 5: any herbal remedy that that might work for her.
Speaker 3: M yeah, pencil and paper. I have a pen.
Speaker 1: Same thing, he says, you're a shaman, you know about
Speaker 1: plants and herbs. Do you have an herbal remedy for
Speaker 1: a numb vagina? And Wandering Bear asked for a pencil
Speaker 1: and paper? Only has a pen.
Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on, hold on, it's not just a
Speaker 3: general thing. He tells him about Cheryl's vagina, right, and
Speaker 3: then he says, do you have anything after that? Do
Speaker 3: you have a He's exposed Cheryl's vagina.
Speaker 2: To Wandering Bear.
Speaker 3: To Wandering Bear, which is and.
Speaker 1: Wandering Bear asked for a pencil and paper. He's going
Speaker 1: to write something down that obviously that he wants Larry
Speaker 1: to get for the numb vagina and a whole.
Speaker 3: Right. I know that's what I was holding on for it.
Speaker 3: He's like, pencil, I have a pen. He goes, it's
Speaker 3: the same thing, you know.
Speaker 1: And then Larry takes out his little notebook that we're
Speaker 1: quite familiar with, that little brown notebook, and Wandering Bear
Speaker 1: writes something and Larry and shows the book to Cheryl
Speaker 1: and tell.
Speaker 3: Us, take a step back. This is the first what
Speaker 3: I consider the racist moment moment, which is why, while
Speaker 3: Russell Means is writing it down, we hear the drums
Speaker 3: of an Indian tribe playing in the background. It's like
Speaker 3: completely unnecessary and I think rather uh racist and contrived.
Speaker 2: Do you think that we would do that in an
Speaker 2: episode today?
Speaker 3: No fucking way. Yeah, no fucking way. And by the way,
Speaker 3: that's what's good about our times if you want to
Speaker 3: pick out good parts, is we're more sensitive to other
Speaker 3: people's whatever they are, whatever their should be.
Speaker 1: No, of course, Uh yeah, let me ask you about this.
Speaker 1: Is there a separate music editor?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 3: Generally the editors put the temp music in or music
Speaker 3: we could use because they ially use the themes from
Speaker 3: our show, and then we.
Speaker 2: Have a library of those.
Speaker 3: We have a library. But also we do have someone
Speaker 3: who does music and they would fit in something there.
Speaker 3: So there were so many processes that could have happened
Speaker 3: where this got lost in it. And also back then,
Speaker 3: who was going to think something of quiet? It's quiet
Speaker 3: Indian drums, it's not overbearing.
Speaker 2: But still talking about two thousand and four ish an.
Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, we'll.
Speaker 1: Be right back, stay tuned, Okay, we're back, So Larry
Speaker 1: then goes to the office and Antonette forgot to cancel
Speaker 1: his lunch with Jason Small. Antonett is fucking up left
Speaker 1: and right. So he says, to go to mel Brooks's house,
Speaker 1: pick me up some music, and then go to my
Speaker 1: business manager and get me a package. And then she
Speaker 1: says to him, asking his advice. I keep on adding
Speaker 1: a lot of hang ups. Do you think it's Morvin?
Speaker 1: And the phone is ringing as she has his advice
Speaker 1: and Larry has no interest in engaging her.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, here's where he does the appropriate.
Speaker 2: Thing, very very literately.
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. It means the world to a person.
Speaker 3: It means they're being heard. And he goes, no, don't
Speaker 3: you call back. It's him, but don't call him back.
Speaker 3: You should not be the one, and he says it
Speaker 3: with enthusiasm.
Speaker 2: Now, yes, he could.
Speaker 3: Give a flying fuck, and we know that as viewers.
Speaker 3: But that's what you need to do in situations. It's
Speaker 3: called the cost of doing business. And Sari hates that
Speaker 3: I say that so much, but that's what it is.
Speaker 3: You tip the valet.
Speaker 2: He's got a face, he's got him.
Speaker 3: That's she works for him. He has to see her
Speaker 3: every day. He has to bullshit it.
Speaker 2: She's like a wife.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think that you bullshit your wife or
Speaker 3: your girlfriend. So we're back for me being a proper gentleman.
Speaker 1: And Larry tells you that wandering bear cured Cheryl's vagina
Speaker 1: and you tell him Oscar is not good and he's like,
Speaker 1: did you say anything? He gets all paranoid. Then he
Speaker 1: gives the condoms back to you.
Speaker 3: And by the way, this is my Meisner technique when
Speaker 3: I act. He tells me that a curator vagina and
Speaker 3: I say, how about that wandering bear cures vaginas? And
Speaker 3: it's just repeating what people ask me all the time.
Speaker 3: Why do I repeat with Larry? And it's not a
Speaker 3: matter of me choosing to repeat, it's showing a level
Speaker 3: of support for what he's saying so he can do
Speaker 3: something else in the scene or we just move on
Speaker 3: to whatever's next. But it's at worst really helps what's
Speaker 3: going on. It really does in one way or another.
Speaker 3: But people go whenever people do an impression of me
Speaker 3: on the show that the repeating part, Oh yeah, yeah, always.
Speaker 3: You know Larry says something, how about that?
Speaker 1: You know you tell him that your five wood is
Speaker 1: coming at four point thirty and you're gonna go pick
Speaker 1: it up.
Speaker 2: And then you see me.
Speaker 1: At the window with Oscar with my spaghetti western music
Speaker 1: coming on.
Speaker 2: I'm very fabis in this episode.
Speaker 3: And during this episode we use other music which might
Speaker 3: be connected to the song. It's basically a knockoff of
Speaker 3: the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.
Speaker 2: Sergia Leon music. Yeah, yeah, not his music. It's Eno Morricone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Marticone does not. Yes. By the way, they're two
Speaker 3: of the best ever.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, Oscar's voice pock is damage is So somebody
Speaker 1: was trying to strangle him, to choke him.
Speaker 2: Who might that be? Larry?
Speaker 1: I think Larry, like, you know, the dog bit your
Speaker 1: penis and you're trying to kill him, you know. And
Speaker 1: then you guys are just like, maybe he got hit
Speaker 1: by a car. I'm like, how would he get hit
Speaker 1: by a car? How would he get out of the house.
Speaker 1: We go through this whole thing. I love these scenes.
Speaker 1: I'm going to get to the bottom of this, and
Speaker 1: you two are just shivering in your timbers. Cut to
Speaker 1: back at Larry and Cheryl's house and Cheryl's outside and
Speaker 1: Wandering Bear is out there, and Wandering Bear says to Cheryl,
Speaker 1: how's your vagina?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: Cheryl has told me that people have come up to
Speaker 1: her in the street and asked.
Speaker 2: Her that question.
Speaker 1: So she asked her how vagina is, and she says
Speaker 1: getting better, but she's pissed about it. And then Larry
Speaker 1: pulls up and Cheryl tells him. Wandering Bear asks me
Speaker 1: how my vagina is? And Larry says, did you thank him?
Speaker 1: And Cheryl's not happy about this, and then he approaches
Speaker 1: Wandering Bear and says, it might not be a good
Speaker 1: idea to ask my wife how her vagina is, you know,
Speaker 1: And Wandering Bear says, if she went to a white
Speaker 1: man doctor, he not only would ask, he would look.
Speaker 2: He's got a point, Wandering Bear.
Speaker 1: And then Antonette pulls up gives him his papers. She
Speaker 1: forgot the music from mel She forgot and just like
Speaker 1: she forgot to call Jason Small and she and Larry
Speaker 1: get into an altercation and she quits.
Speaker 2: Fine, I'm sorry, I'm terrible. I'm a bad assistant. You
Speaker 2: know I don't need this. Do your own errands, run
Speaker 2: your own life. I'm done quick.
Speaker 3: I don't need quit. No, you can't quit. You can
Speaker 3: tell Jason Small, or maybe I will about your mom's
Speaker 3: fake and veiling.
Speaker 5: Come on, that's not that's.
Speaker 3: Your Cheryl would love to hear about college girls gone wild.
Speaker 2: Like college girl's gone long, Cheryl, it's hot.
Speaker 3: You know what, everybody's gonna know every.
Speaker 1: Lie, every deceat, every half truth you have ever told.
Speaker 2: Mister eight years of servants.
Speaker 5: Come on, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I apologize, but you can't quit. Come on, I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Hold on, though, all he does is point
Speaker 3: out to her two mistakes that.
Speaker 2: She made, not very nicely.
Speaker 3: Though Jeff see, I think opposite. I think he's frustrated,
Speaker 3: and I think.
Speaker 2: It is he is frustrated.
Speaker 1: He is frustrated, but it's pretty aggressive how he points
Speaker 1: it out the her. He's pissed at her, reasonably so,
Speaker 1: and she quits and she screams to him about the
Speaker 1: college girl's gone wild and that she knows.
Speaker 2: Every lie and every deceit.
Speaker 1: She's had eight years of service, and Larry realizes, oh,
Speaker 1: he's got to apologize. You know, she's to she quits,
Speaker 1: she's going to expose him to.
Speaker 2: The whole world. And you know, he tells, Cheryl, I've said.
Speaker 1: Horrible things about you and Jeff and Susie and Lewis
Speaker 1: and she's gonna expose me and we're gonna have to move,
Speaker 1: and you know, he's like, I got to go talk
Speaker 1: to her boyfriend.
Speaker 2: He figures he's got to go talk to her boyfriend.
Speaker 3: But before he does it, Cheryl stops Larry as he's
Speaker 3: listing all the names, and her name was in the
Speaker 3: middle of all the names, and she goes, what are
Speaker 3: you telling her about me? And then he has to
Speaker 3: jump in not.
Speaker 2: You, not you, everyone else. It's a very funny scene.
Speaker 1: And then he decides he's got to go talk to
Speaker 1: her boyfriend, to Antoinette's boyfriend. And he's at the hospital
Speaker 1: cafeteria and there is Marvin, who is Joey Slotnick.
Speaker 3: Joey Slotnick who is uh my X's. He's a friend
Speaker 3: of mine and I love him madly, but he is
Speaker 3: Marla's only straight friend.
Speaker 2: Really, he had a face. He has a great face.
Speaker 3: He looks like one of the Marx brothers. He really does.
Speaker 3: I think he played one once in some show.
Speaker 1: I saw, Yes, Marvin, what happened? And Marvin said, it's personal,
Speaker 1: it's sexual. And then he fesses up that he's a
Speaker 1: premature ejaculator, and Larry gives him the everlast condom.
Speaker 3: Your problems are.
Speaker 5: Over ever last condom used condoms before, Larry.
Speaker 3: They don't help.
Speaker 5: They haven't used this one all night, my friend all night.
Speaker 5: Just got one little word of advice for you. Don't
Speaker 5: wear an inside out.
Speaker 3: He sells it like I was selling it to Larry.
Speaker 3: Correct tons of enthusiasm. Yes, And the thing is he's
Speaker 3: doing a selfish deed. He needs to correct his assistant.
Speaker 3: He could give a shit about Max's Wiener. You know
Speaker 3: Marvin's Wiener.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Marvin's Wiener. That's the name of a something I.
Speaker 3: Played Marvin on some Oh Mad About You. I was Marvin.
Speaker 2: I like the name Marvin.
Speaker 1: And then we're back at our house and Larry's there
Speaker 1: to pick you up to go get the putter, and
Speaker 1: he asked how Oscar is and I come storming in.
Speaker 1: He's not good. I know you did something. Wandering Bear
Speaker 1: comes to the door and he came to collect his money,
Speaker 1: and I say to him, you know what, wandering Elk,
Speaker 1: whatever the fucking name is, you were paid already.
Speaker 3: Okay, you don't need to talk like that. You're a
Speaker 3: better person than that. No, she's not we paid you.
Speaker 2: That was it. I'd like you out of my house.
Speaker 1: Listen, Wandering Elka, whatever the fuck your name is, you
Speaker 1: were paid. And Wandering Bear says to me, you don't
Speaker 1: need to talk like that. You're a better person than that,
Speaker 1: and Larry says, no, she's not, which I always Jane, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, is.
Speaker 3: The second funniest line in the episode. It made me
Speaker 3: burst out laughing.
Speaker 1: It's a very funny line. And I remember that. And
Speaker 1: then I tell him, you don't get out of my house.
Speaker 1: I'm going to get my dog because Oscar is a watchdog.
Speaker 1: And I call Oscar and Oscar comes limping in and
Speaker 1: he lies down and he's completely useless, and I say
Speaker 1: this used to be a watchdog and look at him
Speaker 1: and whatever, and Wandering Bear the shaman touches his neck
Speaker 1: and starts chanting, and he brushes him with sage hold on.
Speaker 3: He says, may I see the dog?
Speaker 2: Yes, you know, and then he jumps the dog.
Speaker 3: And then he goes down and the fucking drums are
Speaker 3: playing again. As he's doing all this stuff to him.
Speaker 1: He brushes him with a sage thing and he touches
Speaker 1: his neck and he chants and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: oscar barks and he grits his teeth. He looks at Larry.
Speaker 3: He's got lots of energy.
Speaker 1: And then because he knows that Larry hid him with
Speaker 1: the car, and he shows his teeth and he growls
Speaker 1: at Larry and he runs after Larry, and Larry goes
Speaker 1: running down the block, which if I recall, he pulled
Speaker 1: his hands string on that take, I believe that was
Speaker 1: when he pulled his hamstring.
Speaker 3: Pull a hamstring and he waves.
Speaker 2: It a prius. A prius is driving.
Speaker 3: Because he's running being chased by a rabbit. Dog Is
Speaker 3: that you'd say, raven a rabbit? Okay, rabbit And he
Speaker 3: takes the time to wave and wave so natural and
Speaker 3: so funny, And that was a delightful button.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: And the whole episode, as we said in the beginning,
Speaker 1: it was a very simple, not a complex storyline. But
Speaker 1: again Domino's weaving everything has a reason from you know,
Speaker 1: it was a couple of things that didn't have reasons,
Speaker 1: but they were okay, but everything seems to come back
Speaker 1: and it was just like a perfect little gem.
Speaker 3: I at that time, I remember saying to Gavin Polone,
Speaker 3: who was still our producer at that time, but he
Speaker 3: was the guy who helped put together the show producer
Speaker 3: and you anyhow, point being is I said to Gavin
Speaker 3: ran In him or somebody, go that might be my
Speaker 3: favorite episode and he goes me too, oh yeah too. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So it was like, okay, well I'm seeing something here
Speaker 3: and it was my favorite. I think it still is,
Speaker 3: but it was for a number of years afterwards. And
Speaker 3: you know when people would say to me, what's your
Speaker 3: favorite episode and they expected twenty other answers, and I
Speaker 3: go Wandering Bear. And you know what they would say,
Speaker 3: which episode is that? I go, really the one with
Speaker 3: Sheryl's vagina. Oh yeah, yeah, the Indian dude. But people
Speaker 3: were never expecting me to say wandering Bear.
Speaker 1: Russell Means, by the way, died in twenty twelve, and
Speaker 1: I think he was terrific in this episode.
Speaker 2: He just played it perfectly. No, he's perfectly.
Speaker 3: He was he was perfect and by the way, I
Speaker 3: don't remember, but there was a lot of struggle getting
Speaker 3: him to either do the show or him being available.
Speaker 3: I don't remember what it was, but I remember it
Speaker 3: wasn't set in stone at the beginning because we'd have
Speaker 3: him we wouldn't have him. I don't remember if he
Speaker 3: had objections or he was going to be in Paris,
Speaker 3: but nonetheless.
Speaker 2: Well, luckily Popeye's barking, he wants supper.
Speaker 1: I am going to go feed the dog and I
Speaker 1: will see you next week where we will do episode nine.
Speaker 2: We're almost done with this season. Popeye, good boy?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: Well, love you, Jeff, I love you too, Susie, talk
Speaker 2: to you soon.
Speaker 3: I want to thank everyone for listening. That means the
Speaker 3: world to me.
Speaker 2: See you next week.
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