1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: That's a looking to throw and he does. He's gotten 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 1: touched down, looking like way way clock and what hand down? 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: Touchdown Drake. Here's Drake in for the touchdown. A second 4 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: of the night turn all the lives. Here comes goot Man. 5 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: That was Joe buck singing sort of and Troy Aikman 6 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: laughing and uh. A bunch of Ravens scoring in a 7 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: twenty seven to thirteen victory for the Baltimore Ravens on 8 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: Monday Night football in the super Dome. A convincing performance 9 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: that should send a chill down the spine of the 10 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: rest of the a f C. The Ravens look that good, 11 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: of course, um, Greg Rosenthal. Every Monday Night we bring 12 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: in a special guest to talk about the game, and 13 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: this week it's Jordan rod Reeg of the Athlete it Could. 14 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: You may know as a rams uh beat reporter, but 15 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: she's got a great football mind about any game. So 16 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: let's give you some more fun teams. Jordan's who needs 17 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: the Rams. I know you've been up for twenty hours. 18 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: Did this game keep you awake? You know? Were you 19 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: into it? I actually think you did me like a 20 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: huge solid here, Greg, I mean I got to watch 21 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: a really good run game for the first time quite 22 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: a while, So this is good. This was very very 23 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: good for me personally. It was it was medicinal in 24 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: a way, you know, like just the catharsis of getting 25 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: to see, you know, the ball moving down the field 26 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: on the ground was great. Yeah, tough. Yeah, well, maybe 27 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: talk a little Rams late in the show. We're gonna 28 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: do six bummers from the two season kind of on 29 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: her that Rams running game in their offense in general. 30 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: But it wasn't a bummer watching this Ravens running game. 31 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: How fun are they to watch? For Lamar to just 32 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: show up in the Superdome, a place you know he's 33 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: never played before, may not play again for eight years 34 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: or something, and just kind of put on one of 35 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 1: the individual performance showcases that remind you, oh, yeah, we 36 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: should appreciate Lamar Jackson because any game that you watch 37 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: can turn into a game like this. You might look 38 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: at the box score and see twelve or two, one 39 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: thirty three through the air and a touchdown and eighty 40 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: two yards on the ground and think, okay, that's that's 41 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: a typical solid Lamar Jackson game. But the way he 42 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: did it just like had me jumping out of my 43 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: seat just making the Saints defensive players look unathletic. And 44 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: it's so rare for an NFL player to make other 45 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: professionals look athletic. But it was one of those Lamar 46 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: Jackson nights where you had to watch it to really understand. 47 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: Almost their entire offense felt like it was, you know, 48 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: coming out of him escaping Saints tackles. Yeah, and they 49 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: kept changing the contact points. They have all these positionless players. 50 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: I love watching this group and I don't get to 51 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: watch a lot of Ravens games. I don't get to 52 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: watch a lot of non Rams games unless I were 53 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: super dedicated and slept way less than I already do. 54 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: Um just being a beat writer, that's kind of the life. 55 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: You're on a plane, you're at the facility, you're covering 56 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: the team that you cover. I get such a joy 57 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: out of watching what this group does in the game, 58 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: because again, they're using essentially positionless players, from the quarterback 59 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: to what they're asking the running backs to do, to 60 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: this piccard guy who I'm serious. I'm like, oh, where 61 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: did that guy go to school? And Ricard Ricord Patrick Ricard, Yes, yeah, 62 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: And I'm like, where did that guys go, I'm like, 63 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: of course he went to Maine, right, he went to 64 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: U Maine, and of course you know you're gonna get 65 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,119 Speaker 1: a pounds. You know. It's just cool, like just watching 66 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: some of the layers and the contours that they create 67 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: and the conflict that they put these defensive players in 68 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: the Saints defense is no slouch really, and for the 69 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: Ravens to be able to accomplish this and do it 70 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: in such a way that you almost felt like they 71 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: were constricting very very slowly some of the ways of 72 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: ball control, especially with the way they opened that third quarter, 73 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: and it was like the slow constriction and all of 74 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: a sudden that that third and long run that Lamar 75 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: had up the left side where he like parted Moses 76 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: right like people, he like parted his own tackle out 77 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: of the way, and it just that was when you 78 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: really felt like, Okay, this is it's very slow and 79 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: all at once kind of probably is like the hypothermia 80 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: feels like I would say, wow, that is really well said. 81 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: I um, I hope like you are cool with this 82 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,239 Speaker 1: extra work you're saying. You know, I know you normally 83 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: don't have to cover a Monday night game or you 84 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: flew back. It didn't occur to me that I should 85 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: have picked the game where you you want to you 86 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: weren't flying back from the East Coast that day. I 87 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: hope you're cool with the extra work. And they do 88 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: make it interesting, and that's one of the reasons I 89 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,559 Speaker 1: love the Ravens. And to your point, like the game 90 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: felt out of reach after that first drive in the 91 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: second half, they go into halftime up fourteen three. They 92 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: only have four drives, I believe on offense, and the 93 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: first half it was a typical Ravens game where they're 94 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: kind of sucking the life out of the game and 95 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: it's just a field goal drive to start the second half, 96 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: but it's six and a half minutes long to make 97 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: it seventeen three. At that point, with the yards that 98 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: they seemed to be able to get in the running 99 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: game whenever they really wanted it, it felt like the 100 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: game was over and yet they have It's a tough 101 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: matchup against the Saints on paper, and they just put 102 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: defenders in so much conflict. A guy like Pete Werner, 103 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: who's had to me a Pro Bowl type of season, 104 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: was a little lost tonight. Marcus May and Tyrone Matthew. 105 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: The two safeties on the Saints, who have struggled for 106 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: most of the year, didn't know what to do. And 107 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: the Saints have been known for their run defense, and 108 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: they just couldn't stop them. The Ravens end up with 109 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: a hundred and eighty eight yards on the ground and 110 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: whenever they needed a play or early, let's say, Rickard, 111 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: you know, converts a short yardage and then they have 112 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: Jackson well Lamar doing a read option for about five 113 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: yards on another third down. It just feels like those 114 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: plays are there whenever they wanted. And oh, by the way, 115 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: he can create when he does drop back to pass, 116 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: and it looks like the pass rushes all over them. 117 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: When you're saying position less players though on the offense, 118 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: what do you mean there? The way that they basically 119 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: make the receivers and the tight ends and the fullback 120 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: certainly too, all do are all such an active part 121 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: of the running game? You mean, yeah, and you don't 122 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: know what's going to happen, pre stet because like you said, 123 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 1: he can pass so well, and what I loved, and 124 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: you were like, oh, I don't I hope you don't mind. 125 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: The Actually, the second I see this guy run a 126 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: quarterback sweep, I mean, come on, like and then throws 127 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: the ball because he's got the he's got the dB 128 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: and conflict. Like you can, I freeze framed on it. 129 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: This is how much of a kick I got out 130 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: of just seeing what they were doing. Like, I went 131 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: and found the clip on on Twitter and I just 132 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: started freeze framing it to see at what point does 133 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: the dB realize he's made a grave? You know, he's yeah, 134 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: and sort of like flashback record scratch, freeze frame moment 135 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: where he flips around and and honestly, I don't blame 136 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: the Saints defend. This is a good defense. But the 137 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 1: thing is is there's not much you can do when 138 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: there's you know, three to seven options that can happen 139 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: um post snap with out of the same look pre snap, 140 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: you know, when they're aligning the full back and then 141 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: they've got the running back and then they've got Lamar 142 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: and all of these guys. You know, Drake can catch 143 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: a pass or the full you know, the fullback is 144 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: probably gonna lead block, but he can get some of 145 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: these motions going. And you know, even the tackles, I mean, 146 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: you see the tackles pulling away the heck over. I mean, 147 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: it's it's crazy some of the things that they can 148 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,559 Speaker 1: do and the complexity in this run game, and it's really, 149 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,679 Speaker 1: um it's really remarkable to see it kind of clicking together. 150 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: And a great example of that is that is that 151 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: quarterback sweet because then from from then on out, because 152 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: of course you're crashing the edge down and you're trying 153 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: to get him, you know, out of bounds ahead of 154 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: that that even at minimum that first down conversion marker, right, 155 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: and so the second that the defender pulls down toward 156 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: Lamar to try to okay, maybe I can up this guy, 157 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: then he's just letting the ball go float into the 158 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: end zone like so effortless. And then every single time 159 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: he moves even or even like twitches his shoulders one 160 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: side to the other when he's taking the hand off, 161 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: you're thinking about it. And if you hesitate, when you 162 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: can do that many things post snap out of the 163 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: same pre snap looks, then you die in this league. 164 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: And it's just it's really interesting to watch. They sort 165 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: of have taken these guys and they've they've made them, 166 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: like I said, into positionless players, but they're maximizing what 167 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: they can do out of these looks and and really 168 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: when they look like I loved what they did on 169 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: the on the ESPN broadcast when they were sort of 170 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: doing that aerial view and showing some of the lanes 171 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: that they were creating and and some of the highlighting 172 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: some of the things that they were able to the 173 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: contours they were able to even manufacture on short runs. 174 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: You really kind of understand the complexity of what this 175 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: thing is. And can you tell I've been missing watching 176 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: a run game? GG, Yes, I can, and I love it, 177 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: And I'm so happy I have you on because you 178 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: have such a great mind for the xs and ohs, 179 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 1: and I think the way that you just gribed it 180 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: helps illuminate how difficult they are to prepare for for 181 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 1: an NFC opponent. I do think about this that in 182 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: the division, you know, they see the Ravens twice a year, 183 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: and Greg Roman, their offensive coordinator, takes some grief because 184 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: their passing game necessarily isn't as developed because they spend 185 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: so many times, so much time adding all these running plays. 186 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: And as Troy Aikman was explaining their like option running 187 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: plays and now that they drafted Tyler Linderbaum, who was 188 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: more of a zone player in college. They've added some 189 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: of those elements which they didn't even had in the past. 190 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: So they're always adding to the running game and everything 191 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: builds off of that. And that's awesome, And I think 192 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: you can only do so much on offense. But in 193 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: a week like this where you don't have Mark Andrews 194 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: and you're all pro tight end, you're not getting Rashad 195 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: Bateman back for the rest of the year. Troy Aikman 196 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: was calling Devin DuVernay their number one receiver right now. 197 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: That should be a major problem against a good d fence. 198 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: In the year two, Isaiah Likely who you who was 199 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: the rookie tight end who caught that beautiful touchdown pass 200 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: on the quarterback sweep led the team in receiving with 201 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: twenty four yards. That should be a problem. And yet 202 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: they find different ways to win. And I like that 203 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: there are enough ways in the NFL that you can 204 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: be different, Like you could you cover a Sean McVeigh offense, 205 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: And yes, there's been all these off shoots and you've 206 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: done a good job covering all the different off shoots, 207 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: But isn't nice to not have just another Sean McVeigh 208 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: off shoot like that there's one team out there led 209 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: by a one of one player who who to me 210 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: is the you know, the greatest running quarterback of all time. 211 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 1: I don't think that's any question. An he passed Steve 212 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: Young now for fifth all time, and it's gonna be 213 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: number one soon enough. That there's a team that can 214 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: do things a little differently, and they can do it 215 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: because they've built their personnel around Lamar Jackson. Yeah, it's 216 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: I think it's cool. It's like one of the most 217 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: traditionalist statements in football is that you create A plus 218 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: plays for your A plus play airs. And the thing 219 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: is is those are just happening on the ground in 220 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: a way that is sort of mind bending for defenses especially. 221 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you think about it, Greg, We talked about this, 222 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: and you guys talk about on the show all the 223 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: time about the philosophical shift in the league. So many 224 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: things are dictated towards the passing game right now. Isn't 225 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: just so perfect that this dominant like multiple run heavy 226 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: team that's doing all kinds of crazy stuff and even 227 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: as added, like you said, some of that outside zone stuff, 228 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: some of that like layer developing down field kind of 229 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: blocking scheme and and that's something that is just starting 230 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: to find its fullest form, and it happens to be 231 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: at the perfect time that everything else is shifting toward, 232 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: and even the personnel that's coming into this league is 233 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: shifting towards. How can you defend the past? And I 234 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: think it's it's really interesting. It's sort of catalytic in 235 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: a sense. It's it's happening in its own small world obviously, 236 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: but the ripple effects from what they can create, like 237 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: I said, just getting the ball in A plus situations 238 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: to their A plus players, no matter how it happens. 239 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: And I think there's something kind of cool and like, um, 240 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is the right word, but 241 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: like anarchistic about it a little bit, where they're kind 242 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: of like, we don't really care, we're there while everyone 243 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: else is zagging. And I think that the Patriots have 244 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: done a good job with that over the years of 245 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: trying to either be ahead or not worry about the 246 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: league trends, because you're ultimately at an advantage if you're 247 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: playing counter to that. I think that's why they were 248 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: effective relatively running so much power last year with the 249 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback against all these light boxes. But The Ravens 250 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: were very intentional this offseason after a year where they 251 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: really tried to spread it out and work on their 252 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: passing game, they intended to be this sort of team 253 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: this year. They made their offseason moves, uh with being 254 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: a twenty eighteen m Lawmar Jackson m v P year 255 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: or was that nineteen Lamar Jackson m VP year type 256 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: of team, and it's working. And the thing I like 257 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: about the NFL season is it's so long that the 258 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: Ravens are completely different than where they were in September. 259 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: They were a mess in their running game traditional running 260 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: game or whatever this is in September. It took them 261 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: three or four weeks to get going. They were also 262 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: a mess on defense, giving up big plays in September. 263 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: With a new defensive coordinator, you know, we're gonna get 264 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: to the Saints and we're not gonna do fifty minutes 265 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: on this game. I know, I know we could were 266 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: pretty deep into it, but I do just want to 267 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: quickly give the Ravens defense some flowers before we move on. 268 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: They've just improved so much over the last four or 269 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: five weeks. Like I said, they started the season so poorly, 270 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: but they've added players as they've gone. Justin Houston, who 271 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 1: missed three games this season, is now up to I 272 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: think eight or nine sacks on the year, had an 273 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: interception tonight, the third active sack uh leader in the 274 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: NFL right now. To see him have a night like 275 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: this was incredible. And then Roquan Smith added to the 276 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: mix like was great in terms of stopping the run. 277 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: And to me, they're pretty good at every level and 278 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: they are a totally different defense. If you've watched them 279 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: week to week, um, which I know you don't have 280 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: a chance to do. If you just tune in right now, 281 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: you'd say this is a perfect Ravens team running in 282 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: defense because I think at every level of the defense 283 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: they have playmakers and they don't have any huge weaknesses, 284 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: and they're a veteran team. Well, I think this was 285 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: exactly what you need to try to do to stop 286 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: a Saints team that actually I happen to agree with 287 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: some of your takes over the last several weeks and 288 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: into the season, like the Saints are frisky, like you, 289 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: you got to keep an eye out for them, and 290 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: and I think, but I mean, honestly, I do give 291 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: the credit. I mean, this this all like we said, 292 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: all of the conflict that you're being put in as 293 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: defenders in this regard, like it's almost like what are 294 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: you gonna do? You gotta just pick the way you're 295 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: gonna lose essentially against a run game like this. But 296 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: the in terms of what the Ravens are able to 297 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: do stopping the run, I mean I did when I 298 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: was doing some of the background work before this, it 299 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: was like in run defense dv O A, and they 300 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: were allowing a lot of like um initial yards after 301 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: contact and they were just not looking like they were, 302 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: you know, doing the job. But if you want to 303 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: go ball control on the other side the way that 304 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: they did, especially opening that third quarter, you have to 305 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: stop up the run and you have to try to 306 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: rattle the quarterback on the other side, and you have 307 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: to try to get them to just take big pieces 308 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: out of the air um and they did that. By 309 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: the time I had this, you know, I haven't written down. 310 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: By the time the Ravens are up twenty seven to 311 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: six UM, they were out rushing the Saints a hundred 312 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: and sixty two yards to forty seven yards. And this 313 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: you know, this Saints team like they can run the 314 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: ball right so it was really I think when you 315 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: kind of going back to what I said before, you 316 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: get into your your A plus plan and then you 317 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: can have more flexibility, more freedom to go ball control 318 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: on the other side, which they very much did right. 319 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: Houston's playing out of his mind. It's such a Ravens thing. 320 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: I mean, Justin Houston, who was signed to a deal 321 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: and was good for them last year and then no 322 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: one wanted him again, and I think he sat around 323 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: in free agency. I'll find out while while we're talking here, 324 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: but it felt like it was like August or so. 325 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: The Rams could have had him for nothing. They needed 326 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: an addresser, everyone needs an d dresher, and yet Dustin 327 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: Houston was sitting out there. And the Ravens just have 328 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: a way of coaching up and knowing how to use 329 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: these type of guys. Clais Campbell had a really nice 330 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: game returning from an injury. Mattabuk has been great, and 331 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: uh their cornerback too, of Humphrey and Peters. It's just 332 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: all coming together and they have a cake schedule the 333 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: rest of the way. When they put up that graphic 334 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: of their next four games on the telecast, and I 335 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: see that they have a buy here coming off of 336 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: a kind of their mini buy after a TNF game, 337 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: and then coming back they have Carolina, Jacksonville, Denver, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Atlanta, Pittsburgh, 338 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: and then finishing with Cincinnati. I know that was a 339 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: lot of teams I just threwout you, but you know what, 340 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: it wasn't a lot of good teams other than Cleveland 341 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: and Cincinnati, and Cleveland is a stretch. They'll have Deshaun 342 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: Watson back there. Those are bad teams. And the Ravens 343 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: are set up at six and three as a team 344 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: who have led by at least ten points in all 345 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: nine other games this year. Jordan's they're only the fifth 346 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: team in the Super Bowl era of which they that's true, 347 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: which is preposterous. So you're thinking like, that's some of 348 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: the great teams of the last, uh, you know, thirty 349 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: fifty years in terms of how they started the season. Obviously, 350 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: the Ravens haven't been good at closing games. We'll have 351 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: to see how that goes when they play good teams. 352 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: But they're not gonna have many good teams, and so 353 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: that's that's why they're so set up. They just feel 354 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: like a very solid number three in the a f C. 355 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: If not right there with with the Bills and the Chiefs, 356 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: when you're just kind of projecting forward, because to me, 357 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: it'd be hard for them not to win the division. 358 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: Sorry Bengals fans. Well, its later in the years you 359 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: go and you're getting in some cold weather and all 360 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: kinds of stuff, and you know, we can pretend it's 361 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: not a factor. But trying to defend a run game 362 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: like this, and trying to defend a team that can, 363 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: like I said, just eat away at you and go 364 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: into like hypothermic mode and the ball control and what 365 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: they do, that's that's really tough. And that's the hypothermia 366 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: thing again. It's like, you know, I would imagine I've 367 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: never thankfully uh suffered from this. Try it, yeah, just 368 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 1: so you know, just just an experiment. Yeah. But it's 369 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: like the way that they were picking away with some 370 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,959 Speaker 1: of those four five eight yard runs. It was like 371 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: happening very slowly in that drive and you could sense 372 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: they were building to something. You were sort of seeing 373 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: the other side going a little bit numb, starting to 374 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: turn a little bit blue, and then all of a sudden, 375 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 1: Lamar breaks off that long third third down run. Um 376 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 1: sort of a dagger and then everything is darkness after that. 377 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: So I think that that was kind of That's kind 378 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: of how I would describe I love it. You're getting 379 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: dark and you're getting deep, and they are the perfect 380 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: team for this season. I keep thinking about this, and 381 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: you mentioned it how it's a different NFL year right now. 382 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: It's a little more defense, it's a little more running. 383 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: I'll get to that when I get to the Bummers 384 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: later in the episode. And they're built for that, you know, 385 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: I I the Jets are like a lesser version of them, 386 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: but the Jets are sort of built for this season 387 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: that differences. You know, one is Lamar Jackson at quarterback 388 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: and and one has an improving defense and the coaching 389 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: staffs that that's been there, and they were getting a 390 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: little tight in the fourth quarter, even though there was 391 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: no reason to like. Lamar Jackson got as upset as 392 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: I've ever seen him with uh the center not you know, Spike, 393 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: You're giving him the ball on time and the plays 394 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: weren't coming in and he wasn't happy with the time 395 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: out and he spiked the ball at one point in 396 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: him and Ronnie Stanley or a giant And if that's 397 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and you're like, oh, is this something, but 398 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: it's not because it's Lamar Jackson and he's just fired 399 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 1: up and you know how his teammates feel about him. 400 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: And then later in the fourth quarter, Marcus Peters, who 401 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: struggle who failed to help push out Jawan Johnson on 402 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: the sideline on a late, kind of meaningless touchdown for 403 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: the Saints, gets into a giant match with John Harbaugh 404 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: on the sideline. So the Ravens, even even when they're 405 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: winning big, there's just like tension in the fourth quarter. 406 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: Maybe that's because of all these these blowing leads there. 407 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: They make it fun though, they like made it watchable. 408 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: If I was gonna make you watch a Monday night blowout, 409 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: this was the one. Yeah, I was. I was happy 410 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: to watch it. I loved that moment too. There was 411 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: like this very very ample pause as the broadcasters they 412 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: were watching Marcus Peters and John Harbaugh have their discussion, 413 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, one of them goes, 414 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: you know, John Harbaugh is a young sixty And I 415 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: was like, that's what you say right now? Like this, 416 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: It was amazing, It was incredible that. So it was 417 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: it was that and Morgen Moses laying a block in 418 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: the first quarter or a second quarter. I think it 419 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: was laying a block on the edge and wagging his 420 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: finger at the guy he just like threw into the ground. Um, 421 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: there's some there's some spice to this raven team. And 422 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: I think that's why you see some of these moments 423 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: like that is they're they're figuring out where to funnel 424 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: all of it, right, They're channeling all of it, and 425 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to because, you know, sustain This is 426 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: a I think this is a sustainable way to play football. 427 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: What I loved. Um, I was thinking about this today. 428 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: I wrote in my notes, look at these old guys 429 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: go right, because just in Houston and it's Calais Campbell. 430 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: You know, Cali asked Campbell was my first ever professional 431 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: football interview as an intern running quotes for the Cardinals. 432 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: And he was there and what a nice human, terrifying 433 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: probably to play against. And and you saw that a 434 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: couple of times. But it's just watching, like I said, 435 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: these guys when you're talking about closing games, these defensive players, 436 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: like especially on that defensive line, they're sort of figuring 437 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: it out. They're starting to figure out um, how to 438 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: show up in these big moments. Those those third down 439 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: sacks were so crucial in stopping any of the Saints 440 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: momentum um. And you know, let alone what they did 441 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: against the run tonight. Yeah, I loved Mike McDonald blitzing 442 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: a little more in this game than they have been 443 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 1: this season, and they were really well timed. And you 444 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 1: mentioned it with with the veterans, like, yeah, Clais Campbell 445 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: is one of the largest humans I've ever seen. He 446 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: might he must have made you feel small. He certainly 447 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: makes everyone feel small. And I almost when I've heard 448 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: him speak, and I think I did ask him some questions. 449 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: I remember when he was part of the Carnals Super 450 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: Bowl team and I was covering that team that week 451 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: when they played, uh, the Steelers in the Super Bowl. 452 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: Was that he has such a low register. And I 453 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: find this watching shock on inside the NBA, that the 454 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: base is so deep that I I kind of can't 455 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: understand what he's saying sometimes, like my ears don't go 456 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: that low, you know what I mean, It's like it's 457 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: too low. He would be ranked very high. If I 458 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: had a Cadence rankings of defensive lineman, he would be great. 459 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: And if he was a quarterback with a nice you 460 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: know bass cadence, Oh, I'd love to hear at Klais 461 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: Campbell cadence. I mean I would run the other direction 462 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: probably because again, like probably terrifying to play against him. 463 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: But just like I said, it's just he just got 464 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: a like a warm presence. And when I see him 465 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: running around out there, because like you know, guys they 466 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: start to get up there in years and sometimes you forget, 467 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: you know, hey, they're they're still moving people around, and 468 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: you know, you just see him and he just does 469 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: not look like he's aged and it's fantastic. You know, 470 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: you probably feel like he's got that big connectivity within 471 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: the locker room, like he's like ANFL Man of the Year. Yeah, 472 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: he's an NFL Man of the Year type of guy. 473 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: And I love this team. I don't need an excuse 474 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: to love a Lamar Jackson team, but man, the way 475 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: they're coming together in the schedule, I think they're gonna 476 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: be in it quickly. On the Saints and they bummed 477 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: me out. I can't believe I picked the Saints to 478 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: win this game. I had it. I had the Ravens 479 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: actually initially and then when I saw when Andrews and 480 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: Edwards were out, I just I lost my mind and 481 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: I picked um with with my heart not my head. 482 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: They're just a poorly coached team, I think overall, if 483 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: you've watched them week to week, and there was an 484 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: exception last week, but turnovers, penalties, pre snap mistakes, just sloppiness. 485 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: It's really been a part of their DNA throughout the 486 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: course of the season. I think they got beat by 487 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:57,239 Speaker 1: a better team tonight, but there wasn't a lot of 488 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: fight out of that defense, especially, and I know they 489 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: got worn down, but I think you saw the limitations 490 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: of of Andy Dalton playing well. He had been playing 491 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: well until tonight. And they're in the NFC South, so 492 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: they're only one game out of first and their fans 493 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: don't want to hear it, but they're they're just gonna 494 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: be dragged along in this season and continue to matter. 495 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: The fans have, you know, this fatalist thing of just 496 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: wanting to give up on it all, but they won't. 497 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen in the NFC South because I 498 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: don't think the Bucks or anyone is running away with it. 499 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: So it's just gonna be trying to fix these issues, 500 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: and in Dennis aullend to me, hasn't shown the ability 501 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: to fix their mistakes. They had one great week where 502 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: they shut out the Raiders, and other than that, they 503 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,239 Speaker 1: they're pretty similar week to week. Yeah, I mean, I 504 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: think you see sparks from time to time. I mean, 505 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: especially what I really liked about this game is there 506 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: was an emphasis on two positions in particular that like 507 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: don't get a lot of love and modern team building, 508 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: and that's running back and inside linebacker. And I thought 509 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: it was really from both times from both teams. I 510 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: thought it was really really fun watching the inside linebackers 511 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: go and and really again, I think part of this 512 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: is to be in conflict that much, especially when the 513 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: contact point of how they're running the ball is changing 514 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: on you from snap to snap. So sometimes it's hitting 515 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: the d lineman. Sometimes they're changing the contact point directly 516 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: to the linebackers. Sometimes they're changing it to the second 517 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: level almost immediately with some of their blocking concepts in 518 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: the quarterback. And I think that it's just a bad matchup, 519 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: Like I have no doubt I'm going to watch a 520 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: close game in a couple of weeks in New Orleans 521 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: against you know ram Saints, um, if you know, it's 522 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: like kind of dreading it frankly, because like that that'll 523 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: be that'll be messy and that'll be sloppy. Yeah, the 524 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: Saints have the capability to blow a team out like 525 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: the Raiders too, like they did. They they have good players, um, 526 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: but I've just watched enough of them this year to 527 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: know that it's not consistent there. They've had so many 528 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: injuries so of the Ravens. Um. But you could you 529 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: could feel it tonight when they lost Eric McCoy their 530 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 1: their Pro Bowl center that it was already over and 531 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: then it got really over. And that could be a 532 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: major problem for them because you're moving Caesar Ruiz to center, 533 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: where he did not play well as a rookie, and 534 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: then you're messing with the protections and Andy Dalton then 535 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: has more to do. And Ruise had been playing better 536 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: until this game, but both him and Ramchek had a 537 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: rough night. And they've got Chris Lava, who would be 538 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: my pick as the offensive rookie there. I know Kenneth 539 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: Walker is the favorite in Vegas right now, and and 540 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: Damian Pierce I think is the second favorite. But I 541 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: watch a Lava and I think this guy is a 542 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: number one right now, and he's a rookie and he 543 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: can run routes with anyone. And if he was on 544 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 1: if he was on the Dolphins, let's say right now, 545 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: he'd be putting up Jalen Wattle type type numbers. Oh, 546 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: I absolutely agree. And he just it's just smooth, right, 547 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: like the way that he just goes in and out 548 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: of his brakes and his cuts and the way he 549 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: changes direction and all of a sudden he's downfield and 550 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, this guy just like opened a 551 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: space time portal and all of a sudden, there he is, 552 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 1: and you totally lost track of him. And against veteran 553 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: guys like Peters and Humphrey, he's he does it every week. 554 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: I mentioned him on the show last week and he 555 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: went five for sixty and I was like, if you 556 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: just in the box scores five for sixty, but if 557 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: you watched it, you can just he reminds me of 558 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison a little bit. I mean, he is a 559 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 1: really high level receiver that I don't know, like what 560 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: the ceiling is, but he's already there where he's I 561 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 1: have no question he's going to have a really incredible career. 562 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: I I couldn't help but notice on my Twitter timeline 563 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: that because I was doing the Channel five coverage in 564 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: the UK for Monday Night Football, that Sean Payton was 565 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: on the Manning cast during this, and I just thought, man, 566 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: this is very Saints right now. You know, Peyton Manning 567 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 1: and Sean Payton are talking about it, and Sean Payton 568 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: makes some joke that like, hey, me and Lamar are 569 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: both free agents next year, which is like, would be 570 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: tampering if he is a coach of a team. Oh 571 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: but wait, he is kind of a coach of a team. 572 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: He quit on the Saints with multiple years left on 573 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,719 Speaker 1: a huge guaranteed contract that he that he had a 574 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: renegotiated over and over with the Saints. And I don't know, man, 575 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: it rubs me the wrong way a little bit because 576 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: he's not a free agent and the Saints are gonna 577 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: get compensation in theory for him, except that his best 578 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: friend is the GM of the Saints, Mickey Loomis. I 579 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,959 Speaker 1: don't know, but you know he loves it. You just 580 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: know he loves it. He loves it. Right, He's gonna 581 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: get paid and it's all gonna work out fine. But 582 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: at least someone, because everyone else in the media is 583 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: best friends with John Payton, should point out that like 584 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: he essentially quit on the team with a ton of 585 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: and he deserves to retire, but he's not retiring. He's 586 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: using it as a leverage play to come back next year. 587 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: And he's going on while his team is getting absolutely 588 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: hammered in the Superdome. He was there at practice, by 589 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: the way, two weeks ago, which blew my mind. He 590 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: was in the facility just hanging out, and then that's 591 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: the week they win by shutout. It's just like, it's 592 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: it's all too much, it's messy. I just had to 593 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: point out that that was, like how you really feel, Greg, 594 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: I don't even know. I don't know how I feel, 595 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: but I am just like noting this and I'm just saying, like, 596 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: the Saints don't have to let you coach anywhere man 597 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: or or they could ask for a first you know, 598 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: a couple of first round picks. Let's see if anyone 599 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: would give that up. All Right, that was a bummer 600 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: way to uh end the game. Talk Saints don't Saints 601 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: fans don't want to hear any more about that. We're 602 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: gonna go over quickly. Uh, six bummers from the season. 603 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw out six, but I wanted you to 604 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: start with your bummer, Jordan's before we get out of here. Oh, 605 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: pressures on. Now, I have to make sure that it's 606 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: it's a good a good one. I don't want to 607 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: take gears. Yeah, I don't want to take gears. I'm 608 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: gonna run through mind quickly, but I want to hear 609 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: what yours is. So I'm working on this theory and 610 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: it's a little bit like a bunch of yard on 611 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: a on a chalkboard right now that's pinned up in 612 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: various directions, um, and I'm just gesturing to it wildly. 613 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: But I think that the RAMS are currently navigating through um, 614 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: a hell of their own creation. And in part you know, 615 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: we saw what happened at the trade deadline, and it's 616 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: kind of like the Rams did not create uh A, 617 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: more efficient picks for players market, but they certainly, Um, 618 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: I don't even know if inspired motivated more active picks 619 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: for players. That and a lot of other factors as 620 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: you've talked about a lot, including on the trade Tsunami episode, 621 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: and I think, um, so there's that right, So now 622 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: there they've done they've done this thing first, or they've 623 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: done it in such high frequency first, and now they're 624 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: working with less capital and a more efficient market. So 625 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: you're navigating that part of things, and then you're looking 626 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: to at some of the things that they've done schematically 627 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: that have sort of helped motivate the space that this 628 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,959 Speaker 1: league is in right now, especially on defense and in 629 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,959 Speaker 1: the particular way that it caps passing plays. And then 630 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: you look at their own roster and they are completely 631 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: in equipped to actually combat the direction that defenses are 632 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: now playing high frequency passing attack teams UM, and it's 633 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: kind of if you're them, it's kind of a bummer 634 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: because you know it's happening in your own building, and 635 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: you would think that you would see that coming. UM. 636 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: This sort of underworld that they've helped to manufacture now 637 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: is UM is something that they're navigating through schematically and philosophically. 638 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: That was that was kind of mind blowing. You're right. 639 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: It reminds me a little bit of how hard it 640 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,479 Speaker 1: was for the Patriots. And they did it because they 641 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: had Tom Brady, but their defense was terrible for many 642 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: of those years. That's why they didn't, you know, in 643 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: the early tents of like not only their coaches getting 644 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: stolen from everyone and their personnel guys who had similar 645 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: ideas and wanting similar players. But then they're running similar 646 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: schemes and other teams are using similar wayte to get 647 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,959 Speaker 1: uh players, and it's like all these little advantages that 648 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: you had that added up to a lot are no 649 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: longer nearly as big because everyone's doing your stuff. And 650 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: especially for the Rams, it hurts because they just don't 651 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: have answers offensively. I mean, they are an extreme bummer 652 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: to watch play football on offense. The running game, as 653 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: you mentioned, is kind of the start of it, but 654 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: the passing games in inequal bummer. And uh, it's a 655 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: bummer in my house, Jordan's I'm not there on Sundays, 656 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: but my daughter Ellis makes a Rams shrine every week 657 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: on this couch with all these paraphernalia and stuff. And 658 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: it's tough. Uh, you know, it's tough. It's it's tough 659 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: right watching this Rams offense. I mean, no one's gonna 660 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: cry for Rams fans after they won for the Super Bowl. 661 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: But it's just like it's about as uninspiring as it 662 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: gets right now, and it doesn't feel like there's a 663 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: lot of hope to get out of it either. Part 664 00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: of the thing, too, is like they were a team 665 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: that they didn't just like go catalyst by catalyst over 666 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: a sequence of years, like as you see sometimes in 667 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: this league, Like they did everything all at once, and 668 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: they did it just as the cap sprang back out, 669 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: just as the new cb A was negotiated, just as 670 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: teams started this sort of next generation wave not only 671 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: of young quarterbacks but also of young personnel decision makers 672 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: and um, you know, maybe a little bit more of 673 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: a modernized philosophy. And so now when you are you know, 674 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: sort of in the middle and operating out of those 675 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,479 Speaker 1: all those catalysts at once internally as a team, then 676 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, things start to happen a lot 677 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: quicker than maybe you realize. And I think that's kind 678 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: of where they're caught right now, is they they're pretty 679 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: good generally at navigating like the shifts of the league, um, 680 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: philosophically and schematically. But it all happened really really, really 681 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: really fast, like over the course of a couple of months, um, 682 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: and not over years as we've sort of seen these 683 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: things and to do. And now teams are already countering, 684 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: especially the defensive stuff. Teams are are already countering, Um, 685 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 1: you know the best ways to pick away at that 686 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: at that shell defense and some of those you know, 687 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: cover six concepts that that they like to run. You 688 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: know that the Fangio Staley right there. I think it's 689 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: been lost because everyone looks at the offensive coaches that 690 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: are all around the league, and most of them are struggling. 691 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 1: But the Rams, the Fangio and the Brandon Staley defense 692 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: that just is everywhere and kind of uh given a 693 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: little hypothermia in a bad way to a lot of 694 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: offenses around the league. Yeah, comes comes from the Rams 695 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: in large part, and it's not making this season more 696 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: fun to watch. So that that's one of my bummers. 697 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: Is just like the passing game being down so hard, 698 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: and it's because of these defenses in part making it 699 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,280 Speaker 1: harder to move down the field and making them really 700 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 1: earn it. But now now that I say it is 701 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: creating the opportunity for different types of teams like the 702 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: Ravens and Jets and everything to pop up and be successful. 703 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: So maybe I shouldn't be so basic, but I am 704 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: a basic bitch. Ultimately, I don't know, can I even 705 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,439 Speaker 1: say that. I don't know in that context. I think 706 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,439 Speaker 1: I think I can. It's like, I like, points, did 707 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: you hear something? Oh yeah, I didn't. I'm a little 708 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: confused about what I heard. It just seemed like you 709 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: can say that in that context that is too straight 710 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: Monday Night recaps. The guest has jumped in. This is 711 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: the best recurring bit um that will almost undoubtedly not 712 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: continue that next week. I can't believe you did it, Jordan. 713 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: You just made my entire like you guys don't even 714 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: know JD. You're you're knocking out of the park. You're 715 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 1: like quick analysis. And the way that you can understand 716 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: not only the gameplay tonight, but the league trends is 717 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: why everyone should read. Uh, Jordan's at the Athletic and 718 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: the pile after RAMS games And maybe those are becoming 719 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 1: a bummer for you. I hope not, because you're really 720 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 1: good at analyzing it in the moment. That's something I 721 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: could never do the night of a game. I you know, 722 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 1: that's just a really hard skill is to write right 723 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: after the game. But it's even harder to write about 724 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: complex sort of schematic ideas of what happened in that 725 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,240 Speaker 1: game right after the game. I don't know anyone who's 726 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 1: doing it better than you. You're doing an amazing job. 727 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 1: So that's that is not a bummer. It's why I'm 728 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: really happy I had you on. Um, the passing game 729 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: is a bummer quickly, the rest of my bummers is 730 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: um that Still. I'm still not over the p J. 731 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: Walker the whole thing, justin that, you know, one of 732 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: the great plays in NFL history that he was not rewarded, 733 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: and then the next week he goes three for ten 734 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: with two interceptions, possibly ending his career as a starter 735 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: in the NFL. I'm not over that. I picked him 736 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: up in fantasy just because of that bomb that he threw, 737 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 1: and then he had negative three points this week, so 738 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: that was fun. Yeah, I I uh, I'm sorry. I 739 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: mean yeah, my son picked up done to Form and 740 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 1: and DG Moore and I told him not to play either. 741 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: He played them both and he lost because of it. 742 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: But that was that. That was the play of the 743 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: year and it was totally ruined. So that was a bummer. Uh. 744 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: The Jags not being really a part of this season, uh, 745 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: and I don't think they're going to be if you 746 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 1: look at their schedule in the next handful of weeks. 747 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: They play the Chiefs this week, the Ravens after that. Uh. 748 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 1: They also have the Titans and the Cowboys coming up, 749 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 1: So that's four their next five games. I just thought 750 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 1: the Jaguars would be part of this season, and it's 751 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: a bummer to me, I know, not to you, justin 752 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 1: that they're not. Mac Jones is a total bummer. One 753 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 1: of the worst quarterbacks in the league. I'm shocked by it, 754 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: but at this point you gotta face facts that that's 755 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,359 Speaker 1: where it's been. And then Kyler Murray's passing. It's just 756 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: a bummer to me. Just the station to station. I 757 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,800 Speaker 1: I threw a lot out there. We gotta go soon, Jordan. 758 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 1: But if any of those just struck your fancy, I know, 759 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,320 Speaker 1: you know you're gonna be getting ready for a Kyler 760 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: game soon. Right. That's their opponent the Rams this week, 761 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: am I right? They host They host the Cardinals this week, 762 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 1: and I'm kind of interested in seeing, like which version 763 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: of this team that they do get and which version 764 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: of the Rams you're going to see. You know, they 765 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: kind of they put it together earlier this season in 766 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 1: Spurts against the Cardinals. Can Makers was running the ball 767 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: pretty well that game. They were getting some of the 768 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 1: play action going. That's the other thing that's interesting to me. 769 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 1: And I won't go on a rant here because I 770 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: know it's it's late for everybody, and you've been like working, 771 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: actually working all day. So they're running like they're running 772 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: like some of their twenty nineteen offense. You know, they 773 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 1: went all like they went all the drop in to 774 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,760 Speaker 1: drop back and like, hey, we don't need play action. 775 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna still get the league explosives a ep A 776 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: just by dropping back and throwing at the heck down field. 777 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: So but now they're like, you know, no, like holy 778 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: dependent on the run again, and it's the way teams 779 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: are playing them, of course, and and some of that 780 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: zone stuck going back to basics. It's crazy how things 781 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: cycle back around anyway. So that's what the Cardinals begged for. 782 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: He I think he literally went to he does the 783 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 1: announcing for the game. I think he literally went to 784 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: the coaches and told them to do that. I'm sure 785 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 1: they and I don't know if they listened to Marius, 786 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: but maybe they do. They should. He's brilliant, so and 787 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 1: he's great at what he does and so is our 788 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: pal JB. So. But yeah, I think I'm interested to 789 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: see what they're gonna like, which version of themselves either 790 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: team is going to be, and I feel like this 791 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: is one that could get very, very sloppy in a 792 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 1: real hurry. Um. The Rams defense is playing well. Um, 793 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 1: some like fifty two passes by Brady without allowing a 794 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,720 Speaker 1: touchdown and then a complete catastrophe in the final seconds 795 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 1: there on Sunday. Um, But it's the overall they're playing well. 796 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: They play the Cardinals well, um, So there's no mystery. 797 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: I don't think the Cardinals are really up and down, 798 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: and I don't think they're like a different team week 799 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 1: to week. They're one of the most consistent teams that 800 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: that yards for attempt average from Kyler is going to 801 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: be between five and six. There's gonna be very few 802 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 1: explosive plays. It's gonna be the same thing as it 803 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: always is. And sometimes Kyler will make magic with his legs. 804 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,760 Speaker 1: He's doing that more and maybe you'll hit a player 805 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,240 Speaker 1: too deeper to Hopkins. They didn't last week. But it's 806 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: it's a station to station bummer of an offense. It 807 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 1: is not a bummer to have you on Jordan's uh, 808 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,879 Speaker 1: you killed it. I Um, I feel bad. I'll try 809 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: to have you on next time when you're not on, uh, 810 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: you know, after a flight, but I would love to 811 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,919 Speaker 1: have you. Uh. This was fun. No, this was great. 812 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: I mean I've been since you guys launched this, I've 813 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: been like, oh, I hope he asked me to be on. 814 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 1: Like I was like, oh, I hope he asked me 815 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: to be on. I Like I said before, I look 816 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,280 Speaker 1: to you guys. I listened to all your all your shows. 817 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm in traffic a lot, driving back and forth to 818 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 1: and from various football facilities in the southern California region, 819 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: and you guys keep you company. I laugh a lot. Uh. 820 00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 1: I love all the drops, especially the one of the 821 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: guy going like or whatever that one is. Every single 822 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: time it gets me so. UM. I appreciate what you 823 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,760 Speaker 1: guys do. It really was great to be on, um, 824 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 1: and I was stoked to be on with You're sorry. 825 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,399 Speaker 1: That one's for you. That's Arsen Wells, by the way, 826 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 1: and if if you want to look it up, you 827 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,280 Speaker 1: can find it on Twitter. One of our enterprising listeners 828 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,919 Speaker 1: saw where that original clip came from. All right, Jordan 829 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 1: also been posted on Reddit like six times in the 830 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 1: last really, okay, I try not to dive into the reddit. 831 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,919 Speaker 1: That's one step every every single time, Like I'll be 832 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 1: in the car, I'll like, I cannot be taking a 833 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: sip of coffee because it's serious. I mean you heard, 834 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: I like choked out a laugh now because it gets 835 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,399 Speaker 1: me as cool as I try to keep it here 836 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: professional as I try to keep it on your show here, 837 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 1: Greg I, it does get me every single time. You're 838 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 1: you're too nice and um I I hope for you 839 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,399 Speaker 1: that the Rams give you some um entertaining football down 840 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 1: the stretch, something to write about. Stay in the mix, 841 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: stay interesting, that's all we look for. Uh, stay interested 842 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 1: through these eighteen weeks. All right, Jordan, you you are 843 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 1: too kind. I can't wait to have you again. This 844 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 1: was a ton of fun on Tuesday, and I talk 845 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,319 Speaker 1: some colts. Well, there's a lot of stuff about their 846 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,359 Speaker 1: special guest for Jackon is going to be there until then. 847 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:16,359 Speaker 1: Keep the call.