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Speaker 1: what do you play this time? Hell's half Acre? Something

421
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Speaker 1: figured out? I kind of just don't come in here

422
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Speaker 1: with agenda, just kind of free form it. Remember when

423
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,360
Speaker 1: he had write that Diddy about Yanni? Yeah, I saw

424
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 1: some comments on that side and that boy can't write

425
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 1: no ditties challenge good blues musician bad did he write? Okay,

426
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. You're you're like, your focus is

427
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:38,360
Speaker 1: Diddi's big, big time in the ditty's um And then

428
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Speaker 1: Shasters here, Hey, everybody, Chester's here because he's he's here

429
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 1: because he likes to be in on anything that has

430
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 1: to do with tobacco. This is like a collection. I'm here. Yeah,

431
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: I just like I was like, you know, who else

432
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Speaker 1: likes to dip I would like to think it was

433
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Speaker 1: like I like music, you know, I was like, you

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Speaker 1: know who else likes bring Chester down? Oh, we gotta

435
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: talk about a couple of quick things. So a lot

436
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: of times when we cover off at the top of

437
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Speaker 1: the show, we cover off on email, we call it mail,

438
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: but it's email. But this is a special edition because

439
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: this is stuff that actually came in the mail. So Crane,

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00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 1: you'll appreciate this. So you know how we've talked a

441
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Speaker 1: lot about the writer Duncan Gil Chris, the late Duncan

442
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Speaker 1: Gil Chris. I always talking with a friend of mine

443
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: was with Duncan when he died filming Big Horn Sheep.

444
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 1: He said he just looked over and he was dead

445
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Speaker 1: so much it was so surprising that my friend turned

446
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: to him and said, Duncan, where did you go? Just

447
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 1: the heart attack or yeah. So Duncan wrote these great

448
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Speaker 1: books Hunt High and All about Bears, and I was

449
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: we were talking on here about how there's they were

450
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: self published and he didn't make many of them, so

451
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: now they're super expensive. Like people sell his books like

452
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: a thousand bucks, but with no no or nothing. This

453
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Speaker 1: shows up in the mail a fresh copy of All

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Speaker 1: About Bears from Australia. No note. I couldn't tell if

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Speaker 1: I was supposed to sign it. It's just nothing. I

456
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 1: think it was a I think it was like he's like, hey,

457
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Speaker 1: I gotta copy that, and I know they're rare. Yeah,

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00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 1: brand spiky knew all about bears from Australia. We gotta

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Speaker 1: find out who. Yeah, yeah, well I gotta Isn't that interesting? Um?

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Speaker 1: Thank you? Oh. Another guy wrote in like literally wrote

461
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Speaker 1: he bought a print. This will go in the studio.

462
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Speaker 1: It's a print of like the World's jackalopes. Yea from

463
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Speaker 1: the world over passes around all the species of jackalope

464
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Speaker 1: like creatures. Very nice gift you get in the bigger

465
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Speaker 1: studio to hang all this stuff on this busy week.

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Speaker 1: I just discovered I didn't know about like fifteen minutes ago,

467
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Speaker 1: twenty minutes ago. I didn't know about any of this stuff.

468
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 1: I didn't about this though, So yeah, you think of

469
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: that Chester. I think if I get another tattoo, it

470
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: might be one of these guys. Yeah, for sure. There's

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Speaker 1: a scientific journal called Fisheries. I think it's called Fisheries right,

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Speaker 1: Oh god, wow, is it called fisheries. I know it

473
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: because it's always sitting on my brother. Uh has published

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Speaker 1: in Fisheries and whatnot. Anyways, this article see this article

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00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: right here. That that's a It's an article appearing in

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Speaker 1: an issue of Fisheries, which is the scientific journal of

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Speaker 1: the fisheries World. The article is called Goodbye to rough

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Speaker 1: Fish Paradigm shift in the Conservation of Native Fishes fish.

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Speaker 1: This is from a peer review journal. What's rough fish? Uh,

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00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: it's a step up from what they used to be called,

481
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Speaker 1: which is trash fish. So trash fish would be buffalo

482
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: bourb it to some people. Some people call whitefish trash fish.

483
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: Every kind of every kind of sucker, every kind of

484
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Speaker 1: the dozens of sucker species gar like long nose, short

485
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: nose alligator might at one time have all been what

486
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: they called trash fish. But fishing game agencies even will

487
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: still use like fish and game agencies never said trash fish.

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00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: They would say rough fish. And this article is talking

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Speaker 1: about a shift in public perception around trash fish. There's interesting.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting the main point in minute here. Oh he's

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Speaker 1: got who wants to take a look at that? Here,

492
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: here's a litany, here's a rogues gallery of trash fish

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Speaker 1: in this Oh wait, side note, we should uh for

494
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Speaker 1: a new meat eater game. We should do a deck

495
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 1: of cards for go fish. But right, remember when they

496
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 1: invaded Iraq and they made that deck cards everybody were

497
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: looking for. Yeah, yeah, we could make a deck cards

498
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: of all the rough fish based off of that Iraq

499
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Speaker 1: deck cards. Because the ace of spades was saddam thing.

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Speaker 1: Oh you know, I was reading the ore day uh

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Speaker 1: in Um and you know Inherent Vice, the Thomas Pinching novel.

502
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: They made a movie with Joaquin Phoenix and stuff Inherent Vice. Anyways,

503
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Speaker 1: in Inherent Vice, he was saying that what wild Bill Hickock.

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Speaker 1: Everybody knows the dead Man's hand aces and eights, the

505
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Speaker 1: fifth card. This book says that his fifth card was

506
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Speaker 1: the seven hearts. No one knows that. But then I

507
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: got to thinking and looked it up. And it's a

508
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: widely debated issue. What was wild Bill's fifth card? Have

509
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: you seen ballad of Buster Scrugs? You haven't seen that.

510
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: When you watch it, you'll see Buster Scrugs is invited

511
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: to join a card game and he wants his own

512
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: hand dealt and they're like, you can play that hand

513
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: and he looks and it's aces and eights and then

514
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: set some down, says I don't want to play, but

515
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: then still dies later that day, like just being just

516
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: peering at aces and eights killed him. So who's got

517
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: the road gallery? These are all rough fish. I'm getting

518
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,719
Speaker 1: to the point. Here was pike on there, pike mettle, oh,

519
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: northern pike mental. The northern pike mental is a fish

520
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: previously known as a squaw fish. But there in some areas.

521
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: So this there's a graph and here about scientific research

522
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: of fish. Where is this thing? Man? Oh, look at this.

523
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: So I'm holding up a graph that shows how much

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Speaker 1: fisher researched. Okay, And here up top, of course, the

525
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: rainbow trout. There's a book about the rainbow trout called

526
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: like the World's first synthetic fish. That's rainbow trout. Okay,

527
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: and then it goes down of like, so these are

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00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: game fishes the top, and it's just like a relative

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00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: graph showing scientific research of fishes. Of the game fish

530
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: is the most researched three, I'll do the most researched

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00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: five fish, rainbow trout by like a long shot, and

532
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: then kind of clump lumped together, chinook salmon, large mouth bass,

533
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: atlantic salmon, and brook trout are all kind of like

534
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: in second place for alec scientific resources to study. And

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00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: then relative to that, it gets into rough fish non

536
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: native and rough fish native um of rough fish escape ease.

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00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: The ones that got into new waters. Lake whitefish gets

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00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: the most research, and it gets about as much research

539
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: as a soger. The least is the alligator gar. And

540
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: then look at the piss ant amount of research that

541
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: happens on all these species of fish here, So like

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00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: basically of of zero interest to the scientific community to

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00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: date would be such as short nosed gar, spotted soccer,

544
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: golden red horse, gold eye, quillback carp sucker, sacramento pike,

545
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: mental mooney, silver red horse, blue soccer, river, red horse,

546
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: high finn, carp sucker, blacktail, red horse. How many of

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00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: you in the in the room know some of those

548
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: fish or all of them? Yeah? I mean, I mean

549
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: good good eat like why not fish? No, But that's

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00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: the whole you know, we Okay, everyone can go watch

551
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: everyone can go watch episode one of Pardon My Plate

552
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: with Steven Spencer about carp and I mean these are

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00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: like culturated. That's why I'm bringing this up. Talk about

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00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: our work in this article. Oh, they talk about the

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00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: work of our company in this article. They mentioned it

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Speaker 1: or that being like of being part of like part

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00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: of a broader movement of of teaching people to have

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00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: an appreciation for these native fishes that have been in

559
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: your waterways since the beginning of At the end of

560
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: the day, can't anyone make you know, can't these fish

561
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: go well? And uh fish cake? Sure? Yeah, your fishcake recipe.

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00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: I mean that video that Dirt got famous in Mountain Whitefish,

563
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: that's trash fish. Yeah, you can do two things at once.

564
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: You can find out about mountin Whitefish and find out

565
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: how Dirt got famous about watching the same video, but

566
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: just the whole trash fish thing or rough fish thing.

567
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: So like, whose palette was it? Really just based on

568
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: taste the thing? I mean, who because they feed on

569
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: the bottom. Maybe some of them suckers. I think it's that,

570
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: I get it. It's the it's the there's an excessive

571
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: amount of bone almost universally is a lot of bone.

572
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: But you can pickle it and dissolve the bone. Okay,

573
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,479
Speaker 1: let me put it this way. It would be that

574
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: it takes the greatest amount of work the greatest amount

575
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: of effort to yield and uh to yield a taste

576
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: and dining experience acceptable to the average American palette. Yeah,

577
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: but okay, we like peanut butter and jelly, and they

578
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: would give that. That would not be a rough sumwich.

579
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: That would not be a rough sandwich. Now, if you

580
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: had a peanut butter, jelly and bone sandwich, that might

581
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: be a rough sandwich. But it's just getting so that

582
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: that's the paradigm shift is stop, Like what El was kidding?

583
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: My dad knew all the game birds. Okay, he knew

584
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: a couple of birds he hated, and every other bird

585
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: on the planet was a tweetie bird. Hundreds of tweetie

586
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: bird species. Two birds that he hated, and then like

587
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: he like like robins and chicken eas he hated curls

588
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: and blue jays. Then there's all the game birds and

589
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: then there's tweety birds. That's basically how it went. Do

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00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: you think it's a visual thing too? With the fish

591
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: they like, rainbow trout just looks prettier than a carp No,

592
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 1: I don't think it's visual. It's the processing, I don't think.

593
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: So that's it for the mail bag that was that

594
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: was that was all physical mail. Look at that physical

595
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: mail and records in right. Okay, last thing, this is

596
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: back to email, but it's kind of weirds. It's an

597
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: internal email. One of the Corey Caulkins. If you email us,

598
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: that's who reads the email. Among other things, he was out,

599
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: I mean just he must have been out scouting or

600
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: hunting this weekend, hunting. There's a bad drought here right now,

601
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: he said. The picture of a water tank he found

602
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: the greenest this the water and he looks like gatorade

603
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: that level of green and in one tank because he's banking.

604
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 1: He's thanking the drought on this. How thirsty it's making

605
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: everything in one tank. He sent a photo of this

606
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: are floating twenty four pine squirrels, two golfers, and two

607
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: chicken eas floating in the tank, just trying to get water.

608
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: Particularly that. I'll put that on Instagram. So if you

609
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: go to at Steve Ronell on Instagram, you'll find just

610
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: look for a bunch of dead stuff floating in some

611
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: green water. You'll know you're looking at the right picture.

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00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: That's something you have. The ranch I grew up on,

613
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: for the first time ever, they had sheep die this

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00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: year because of the heat and drought. Ever, it's five

615
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: generations of families. It's been a dry or oh christ,

616
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: I think they died from the water, just from drowned

617
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: and drowning thirst, craze pine squirrels. Oh, last thing before

618
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: we get to the before we get to the meat

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Speaker 1: of it here, Uh, Doss Boat Season three is out Northeast.

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00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: Episode one features our very own cal and Joel Sir

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Speaker 1: Mellie fishing New Jersey stripers. So you can check that out. Now,

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00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: how do they go for? I would just if you

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00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: type in like if you if you go into Google

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00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: and type in like doss Boat, it'll it'll pull you

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00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: right up and you can watch it on our Meat

626
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,959
Speaker 1: Eaters YouTube channel or on our website. Ignore everything about

627
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: Doss Boot. If it's a bunch of Germans in the submarine,

628
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: that's not the right thing. If it's Germans in the

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00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 1: sub it's the wrong video. If it's Americans in a boat,

630
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: that's the right video. That's the best way to tell.

631
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: And then Uh. Season ten drops on Netflix September, coming

632
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: right up. A lot of dirts handywork on there. Oh,

633
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: speaking of that, I was gonna tell you, I'll hit

634
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: fifty episodes this season. I think you've done eisodes of

635
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 1: Meat Eater, not counting like stars and sky stuff. Yeah,

636
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: well I'm at forty six. New Mexico will be It's

637
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: like fift wedding anniversary. I got a quick note for kid,

638
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: quick note for kids in my home state, uh, Michigan.

639
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 1: Right now, the DNR is paying seventy five bucks a

640
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: bushel for red pine cones. So if you're a kid, well,

641
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: I mean they'll pay adults too, but I don't think

642
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: adults should be out hog enough. Do you know what

643
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: I mean? It's like you know they're out there. I

644
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: don't think they should be out there. I think you

645
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: should be for kids to do seventy bucks per bushel.

646
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: Red pine is on an off year this year, so

647
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: producing less seed so there won't be enough seedlings in

648
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: a few years to replant and transplant. In order to

649
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: get paid for your bushels, you need to register with

650
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 1: the d n R first, So if you're a kid,

651
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: have your mom and dad help you register and collect

652
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: red pine cones seventy five bucks a bushell. You remember

653
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: they started paying that bounty on on Northern Pike Mentals

654
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: and some guys are pulling six figures, six figures? How

655
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: much has the guy put himself out of business because

656
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: the next year he only made seventy k? Like he outfished,

657
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: he bound bounty hunting for fish. How much is a bushel? Roughly?

658
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: Volume wise, it's like four packs? Right? What's four packs

659
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: or three packs or so? I can't remember, or maybe

660
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: three bustels is a pack? Someone? This is easily solvable.

661
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: Easily solvable. You're gonna get that. Nurses us pints and

662
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't pick them off the ground. You

663
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: gotta pluck them from the tree. You have to bring

664
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: your mynd dad in the ladder. It's getting more complicated

665
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: for the kids in Michigan. Okay, Now back to Taylor.

666
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: You got a new album coming out? To everybody about it?

667
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: Um it is uh. It's when I moved to Nashville,

668
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: I had feel like I had necessarily three years to

669
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: kind of up from when I started there. I had

670
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: seven songs and transpired into now having you know, about

671
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: a hundred fifty or so, and then now it's uh,

672
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: it got whittled down to how many twelve on this record?

673
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: Plus grandpa plus my grandfather, So just your Grandpa makes

674
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: a cameo on it. Yeah, so it's kind of a

675
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: salute to him. So I was at a funeral and

676
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: this came That song came on. I think my great

677
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: grandmother like maybe four years ago or so, and uh,

678
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: the lady, kind of family historian lady. I was like,

679
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: it's like I gotta have this. Died my great grandmother.

680
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: She was just old, real old, you know what I mean,

681
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: old age and uh and uh, anyway, that came on

682
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: and I was like, man, this is a cool Johnny

683
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 1: Cash song. And I was like, wait, that's my grandfather

684
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 1: and my mother singing harmonies. Uh, she's thirteen or fourteen

685
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: and that and uh. I had that file of eight

686
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: tracks that she sent me and the only one of

687
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: my rand father was number four. And it took me

688
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: like two years before I could even muster up to

689
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: really listen to it. And so like halfway through the record,

690
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: I was like, um, we got into drinking some tequila

691
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: and wine and I showed the guy it's just h yeah,

692
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: And I showed the producer Sean and uh, he started crying.

693
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was from the tequila wan,

694
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: but he was like, this has got to be on

695
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: here and I don't know. It's it's a I like

696
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: to think in a lot of different unconventional ways. And

697
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: to me it's like an outcast thing, like an old

698
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: hip hop thing to put of a weird intro or that,

699
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: you know. And a lot of people that have listened

700
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,959
Speaker 1: to this privately have gotten caught into the record because

701
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: it's it reminds them of something maybe from like they

702
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: something familiar, you know, with old country music. And I

703
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 1: look at as a as a piece like the beginning

704
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: in the end the old ship was on. It's kind

705
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: of this, you know, you get dropped off by the

706
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: boat and you get picked up at the end and

707
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: in the middle is this like hellish sonic landscape that

708
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: uh me and Sean made ourselves everything and uh Ben

709
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: Alamant who played keys on like two songs. But other

710
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: than that, we hunkered down for two weeks and made

711
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: this and I couldn't have Uh. It's one of those

712
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: things like I'm sure when you write a book, um,

713
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: it's one of those things you can kind of have

714
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: this master plan of how it's gonna maybe be your masterpiece,

715
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: but when it kind of towards the end of the process,

716
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: when you get out to the other side. Sometimes it

717
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: can be more that you can never have realized. And

718
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: to me, this is uh, it's really one of those

719
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: that kind of happened like that, and I don't have

720
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: just once you get that energy, the feeling you get

721
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: from making this stuff, it's hard to put it down,

722
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: you know. Uh you mentioned writing a book. I think

723
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: a strategy for writing a book, Um, and I've done

724
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: this is right at ending that you think is real good,

725
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: and then try to write a book that would be

726
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: good enough to have the ending. That's right, You're like, man,

727
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: if I could deliver on that ending and the beginning

728
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: good ending, ending and the beginning, but start with ending first,

729
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: maybe yea, yeah, what And then what I'll do is

730
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: I'll read all the easy parts and then I just

731
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: kind of like, of course, first I don't do anything

732
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: for a long time. Then I started writing the hard part. Yeah. Well,

733
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: I feel like you learned so much, Like I didn't

734
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: know half the things I knew before I started being

735
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: a songwriter. It's one of those things you can use.

736
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was playing a wedding some some

737
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: fans of mine. They were getting married and one of

738
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: their Sisters is like kind of flew me up there

739
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: in secret and I played for him, and uh, it's

740
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: just one of those things. They were like they're taking

741
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: me to the airport and you're like you're reading the

742
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: Tipetan Book of the Dead. You know that's weird. But

743
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 1: as a writer, the more you know not normal things

744
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: you read, the better ideas and the broader perspective you have,

745
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you have more to pull

746
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: from or a bunch of useless stuff that uh, I

747
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: don't know. When you have a few drinks, you can

748
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: tell a couple of people. So when you start playing

749
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: around the tour for the album, how will that go?

750
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: We're starting uh end of October going to Texas with

751
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: the producer Sean, So it would be my first time

752
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: in Texas, step footing there and it's gonna be a

753
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: great run of shows and um running and who so

754
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: I've been this was the first project of electric guitar stuff.

755
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 1: So I've been working the kinks uh with a gear

756
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: part for like four or five dates before this run,

757
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: and we're playing American of Fist September, so it'll be

758
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: a good, good run. I like to do it in

759
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: short spurts some kind of home body, and uh, I

760
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,479
Speaker 1: feel like I give everything I got when I make music.

761
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: You know, it's uh, it's not a half ass thing.

762
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: It really comes from here. So I have to kind

763
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: of hit it hard and then rest, you know, my

764
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: mind and body. I see what it means, see what

765
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: it means to like want to live in a k

766
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: forever sometimes, you know. So, do you still regard yourself

767
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: as a fisherman or is that behind you know? No,

768
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 1: it's not behind me. I just don't get to My

769
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: headspace is kind of flipped right now with the aspect

770
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: of getting this to a place to where I can,

771
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: you know, really get to where I want to fish.

772
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't really fish much in Tennessee because

773
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: I got spoiled out here, and uh, I'd rather put

774
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: in the time and get to a place where I

775
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,720
Speaker 1: can go down to Patagonia or something rather than just stayed.

776
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: Because you like fishing for trout, Yeah, if you listen,

777
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: Tennessee's got care about trash fish. Tennessee's got way better

778
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: fishing than this. They've got armadilla fish too, they float.

779
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: That's that's a great fishing state. They've got some great fishing,

780
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,439
Speaker 1: but like right in Nashville, like um sport fishing. Yeah.

781
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: The problem is those all those songwriters down there sure

782
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: talk about it all damn time. Yeah, I mean it's

783
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: but they I don't know, they haven't you know, been

784
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: between the lakes, you know, up there in the Madison.

785
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: It's like that's to me, you know, it's like using

786
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: a shitty guitar to record a record with. It's like,

787
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: I'd rather not record the record, you know what I mean. Keeping.

788
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: The problem with Taylor's fishing right now is that he

789
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 1: lives ten steps away from a recording studio. So that's

790
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 1: Stevie ray Vant he cut his last record on And

791
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: I've just been learning how to use the board and

792
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: operate a system that is out of my league, and

793
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: it's it's a beautiful thing to like, I don't know

794
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: a lot of this musical journey has been like very

795
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: spiritual in the sense of like too good to be true,

796
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: ships always happening, And for a twenty four year old

797
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: to have complete access of a studio that Stevie ray

798
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: Vans sat there and touched the knobs and that was

799
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: his last record. He would die a year later, and

800
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: it was the most commercially successful record. It's like, um,

801
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's to me. When I had that

802
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: studio this week, I was like, oh, man, I gotta

803
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 1: go to Montana. It's like then when I'm here, it's like,

804
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: I don't want to go back to Tennessee. So it's weird.

805
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: It's a weird headspace, you know. So if if this

806
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: launches your career and you get all famous, you still

807
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: come on the show. I don't know, man, We're gonna

808
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: be in Patagonia fishing a little bit, so we have

809
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: to make it mover. I've already got some connections down

810
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: there and been working on my Spanish. That's good. That's good.

811
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: We already carried up this this weird deal that um

812
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 1: you grew up watching, Yeah, Jared Outlaws, Dip Video Pack,

813
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: Dip Spit. Yeah, okay. Jared explained how, like, yeah, I

814
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: remember seeing the like a list of like early famous

815
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: YouTube people and you were on it. Yeah, how I

816
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,720
Speaker 1: started back in two thousand and seven, Like YouTube basically

817
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: really started in like two thousand and it's like the

818
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 1: end of two thousand five, but it was still kind

819
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: of like a weird video chat dating site kind of

820
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: so yeah, a little bit, and you could do like

821
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: video responses and things like that. So a little bit

822
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: before I'm like, and I would I give me a

823
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: little YouTube history. What was it? So it was like

824
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 1: a like a video response dating site. It's kind of

825
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: how like, well, I think what they did, I mean,

826
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, Well, they went to a million different

827
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: things because they had this like broadcast yourself type of

828
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: platform where it was like what what works? Because you know,

829
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: Facebook was was starting to to to become bigger. My

830
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: Space was already big at that time, so they're trying

831
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 1: to Facebook was weird. It was like a way to vote,

832
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: like who was good looking at me? Yeah, it was

833
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: all just like vote up. Well, I mean you like

834
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: scroll through all the girls at college and give them

835
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: like a gay nay. Yeah. That shows you to kind

836
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: of like as much as they act now like um,

837
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: you know like oh we're helping the world. Yeah, it's

838
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: like you're really see in the mentality of people, like

839
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: and it makes people shallow, like you look at tender

840
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: or something, but now they all act like they're like

841
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: they're like diplomat. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, So I mean

842
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: it started as that and then you know you got

843
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: um at the very very beginning. It was kind of

844
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: just like people would upload like you know, they're like

845
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: funniest home videos, you know, like a FV back in

846
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: the day, So you'd see a lot of cat videos.

847
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: You remember, like the Charlie bit my finger. Yeah, that

848
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 1: was like that was like the YouTube's first like viral video.

849
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: And like keyboard cat back in the day. It was

850
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: like a cat playing a keyboard. Do you remember that

851
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: Charlie bit my finger. They found that Osama bin Laden's

852
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: hard drive on his computer was Charlie video that video.

853
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: That's a that's a random fact for you right there. Man.

854
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: I love that he was into that video. Wow huh.

855
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: But anyways, did you have me Jared's videos? I wish

856
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: that's funny. Well, yeah, so I started more How old

857
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: were you then? I was? I was I was like

858
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: fifteen No, I was sixteen, um when I first started.

859
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: And like I said, like, were you trying to use

860
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: it for dating? No? No, no, that was before that

861
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: was like when they first started like two o five

862
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 1: and um. And I was big. So when I was younger,

863
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: I was big into acting and anything I could do,

864
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: like to like just entertain people, Like no, matter if

865
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,280
Speaker 1: it was like like if my mom was like watching

866
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: the news, I'd be like I could do that. I

867
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: could do that. I'm gonna do it. So I would

868
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: get be a newscast yeah whatever. It was like, I

869
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 1: just wanted to entertain over to you, Dave, yeah, and

870
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: so I would just uh, I would just kind of

871
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: make these skits and sketches and things like that. But

872
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: I remember I did one mostly comedy, Yeah, mostly comedy stuff.

873
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: Because back in the day, like now you have what

874
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: you call a vlog, which is like you just you know,

875
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: you just feel in their use that term anymore. Yeah, yeah,

876
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: they still use it. Um. I mean, I guess you

877
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: just say video now, but like everybody's a vlog er

878
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: now seems like they do it on their Instagram and

879
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,479
Speaker 1: all that. But back in the day, that's it wasn't

880
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: even around yet. So the biggest things on YouTube were

881
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: like or that they're started to become channels that would

882
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,479
Speaker 1: get bigger and get more subscribers, and like they would

883
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: just start making sketches or skits. They were like two

884
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: to three minutes long and kind of like uh, like

885
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: an old sketch sketch comedy show that you would see

886
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: on Comedy Central or something like that. It was like

887
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 1: on YouTube, but you would get more of it because

888
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: it was like normal people like us sitting in this

889
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: room doing it, you know. And so when I first started,

890
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: the most popular I think it was like Smash or

891
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: this girl Lisa Nova, they had like twenty thousand subscribers

892
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: and that was the most number. That was the biggest

893
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: YouTuber in the world. And I couldn't even believe it.

894
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: I was like, they could fill up an arena their audience.

895
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: This is insane. And then you couldn't even make money

896
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: on YouTube. They but these aren't like people who are

897
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: in like total rednecks ship right, No, no, no, I

898
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: was the only dude. Probably you're like, okay, we can

899
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: keep telling the story. We'll get there. I mean there

900
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: was there was not. There was probably like around a

901
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: thousand people that like even made like actual content. I

902
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: just did it because I like doing it, and I

903
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: would just do whatever I wanted to do, even if

904
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: you know, a hundred people would watch. And so then um,

905
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 1: and then they like two thousand and uh. I don't know.

906
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: Before that, I made like a hunting video and I

907
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: had to dip in because I was dipping at the time,

908
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: and like everybody, what were you, like, what was the

909
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: hunting video? I can't even remember. It was something like

910
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: and you were living where I was living in Colorado.

911
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: I was. I went to high school in Colorado, right

912
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: outside of Denver, and uh, and we were like hunting

913
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: these fake dear in my front yard that we had

914
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: like these little like statue dear. This is like a comedy, yeah,

915
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: like a sketch video. Yeah, and uh and back at this,

916
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: I mean this is before you could even really do editing.

917
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: Like Windows Movie Maker had just come out and I

918
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: had it on my uh at our computer, and so

919
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: I would like try to like, you know, you would

920
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: quit cut. That's about all you could do. There was

921
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: no transitions or anything like that. So I try to

922
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: try to do all the editing in camera before we

923
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: would you know, post it and me and it took me.

924
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: I made videos for years, like ever since I was

925
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: a kid, but I just didn't know how to post it. Um.

926
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta like hook your camera. If I

927
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 1: had one of those giant vhs like you put the

928
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: whole VHS tape in the in the side, I had

929
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: one of those, and uh, but but Yeah, I had

930
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: to dip in and everybody was like, what are you dipping? Man?

931
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: And I'm were you dipping at that time? Um? Probably

932
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: Copenhagen when you were young. Yeah, I was sixteen. It's

933
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: about the time I found it. I started watching his videos,

934
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: also different Copenhagen. Yeah, I like the Copenhagen Winter Green

935
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 1: and the straight That was my thing until you know,

936
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: we started sound checking. You guys remember the Copenhagen black

937
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: heartburn like every time? Yeah, yeah, they do that. They

938
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: used to do it seasonally and now they kind of

939
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: cut back on it. But the back in the day

940
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: it was. It was around for a while. It was good.

941
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: I think they came out with that two down six

942
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 1: or something. I think one of my favorite videos from

943
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: yours off the top of my head from back then,

944
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: it's not like you were one, was the one where

945
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: you caught that snapping turtle with the floating milk Joe. Yeah. Yeah,

946
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: because I would I would do like I never attended

947
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: to just do like videos on DIT No, you were

948
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: doing activities. Yeah, I was just doing I was just

949
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 1: filming whatever. But did you have early on, like in

950
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: the old days, did you have a preference to do

951
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: hunting and fishing stuff or did you like I did whatever?

952
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: Like I did whatever, like I felt like and I'm

953
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm all over the place. So one day I'm like

954
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: super into hunting and the next day I'm like super

955
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: into my wife or something. So you guys are having

956
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: a baby, Yeah we are. Yeah, yeah, we're having a

957
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: baby coming soon. I saw on Instagram. What were you

958
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: guys doing that? You were shooting something to find out

959
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: what it was? Yeah, I took I had a deer target,

960
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 1: and so I ripped one of the antlers off, like

961
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: and we just put a buck or dough over it

962
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: and we put a big old balloon, taped it to

963
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 1: the year's target and both shot it. Well who rigged

964
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: it up? Uh me? I think I think I just

965
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: knew the answer. No, no, no, no, the balloon thing

966
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: now with somebody else, somebody Yeah yeah, yeah, somebody got it.

967
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: Uh my wife like drop it off like party America

968
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 1: or something, and yeah, and they did. Yeah yeah, but

969
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: we we had to take Yeah we did that with

970
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: a cake one time and shooting nothing. Just yeah. They

971
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: do whole They do everything, man, not just balloons. They

972
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: need cakes and and you know all types of stuff

973
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: that guy that had they had a gender See. When

974
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,919
Speaker 1: I first heard about a gender reveal party, I didn't

975
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: know what it meant. My mind went to, um, like

976
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: someone transitioning, That's what I thought it meant. It was

977
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: like a party if you transition. I thought it was

978
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: like when you Yeah, I like, it's like when you

979
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: are like official, you officially and then you have a party,

980
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,720
Speaker 1: which would be great party. The guy I could imagine

981
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: partying about that. But yeah, then I realized it's just

982
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: about babies. But the guy that, uh, they had a

983
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: gender reveal party, and they had like a tanner right target.

984
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: They have blue smoke or pink smoke. Yeah, started a

985
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: big gass forest fire. They just got a massive fine

986
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: man restitution for the whole damn fire. You know, I couldn't.

987
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: It's like where I live, it's just like out here

988
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: man breaks of smoke everywhere. Can't like a match. What's

989
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: the snapping turtle? Oh? Yeah? So I used to live

990
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: in Kentucky and um, are you born? I was born

991
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: in Florida. I lived in everywhere so um, from Florida

992
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: to Alaska. Um, I've lived all over the place, but

993
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: I lived in I would live in Kentucky for four

994
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 1: or five years out of her sales, which is kind

995
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: of where all the bourbon and stuff. Oh yeah, I

996
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: love her sales. So I lived on like a three

997
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: fifty acre farm out there, and we had to farm

998
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: ponds and we had a whole bunch of snapping turtles

999
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 1: in it. And this is before like nobody was making

1000
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: hunting stuff on YouTube. So I was doing just what

1001
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: I was doing every day, and I was like, well,

1002
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: I might as well just film it. And so I

1003
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 1: did a video called I can't even believe still on there, honestly,

1004
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 1: but it's called how to Clean a Snapping Petal. In

1005
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 1: the first ten sexes be shooting the head with the

1006
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: twenty two, and everybody's like, I thought this was how

1007
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: to clean a turtle? Ting like what is going on?

1008
00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 1: And uh, people may yeah. So I was. I was

1009
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: probably twenty two maybe at that time, or twenty three,

1010
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 1: and and so I would just like, you know, back

1011
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: in the day, I didn't know what to do. There

1012
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: was no like, there was no avenue, so you just

1013
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: did whatever. So cleaning a snapping turtle or and it

1014
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: made some of your best probably stuff, you know what

1015
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,720
Speaker 1: I mean. That's the way I look at my early stuff,

1016
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: it's like before you knew what you were, you know,

1017
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: It's like that's the unfiltered, you know, good stuff when

1018
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: you're throwing ship at the wall. You know. Hey, uh,

1019
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: when you were doing you weren't making any money early

1020
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: on from YouTube. Now you couldn't even make money on YouTube.

1021
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,439
Speaker 1: I think I did YouTube for like five years before

1022
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 1: you could even make money before they turned that on.

1023
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: I think it was like two thousand ten or something

1024
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: when they when it came out, was saying that they

1025
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: were going to do it. Uh. I think I was

1026
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 1: in Alaska actually, and they announced that they were going

1027
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: to do this partner program where Google was going to

1028
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: run ads in your videos and you can make money.

1029
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 1: And it was like they kind of like remember the

1030
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: email I got about it, like you're entered because I

1031
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: already had like an audience, and so I was like what,

1032
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, And then it got my mind like

1033
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 1: I never thought that I could, you know, do something

1034
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: like that as a job. I was like more of

1035
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 1: hoping that maybe somebody from Hollywood would see my video

1036
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: and shooting my head off a snapping turtle and would

1037
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: it be an Avengers five? Um? So yeah, I h

1038
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: they they just you know, two thousand tennishes. Whenever that

1039
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: you could start making money on it. And then then

1040
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: it like then everybody wanted to be a you know,

1041
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: a YouTuber, so and it got more it got more

1042
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: like business like then. That's whenever you started seeing it

1043
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: wasn't that it like the fun one away, but it

1044
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: was like it was really about community back in the day,

1045
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: like on YouTube, like you would you would have like

1046
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: twenty thirty different other channels that would watch you, and

1047
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: they would always like every time your video uploaded, they

1048
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: would they would comment like good vid, awesome vid man,

1049
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: you know, like all the video producers. Yeah, like other

1050
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: other people that you would know, because it was a

1051
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: really small community. And then once you know, you can

1052
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: started making money on it, everybody kind of turned it

1053
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: into like it was like a business almost, and you

1054
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: know it was like and I mean I did too.

1055
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: I I went with the times, but it was it's

1056
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: it was a complete change from what it used to be.

1057
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: And it's crazy that I've almost have been doing it

1058
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: fifteen years now. Do you still regard yourself that way,

1059
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: like as a YouTuber kind of because it's just like

1060
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not embarrassed by it. Some people are like, oh, yeah,

1061
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: I'm a YouTuber, I do like how to videos or whatever,

1062
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: but I mean it's what I do. Like what's your

1063
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: output as far as like how many? How many set

1064
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: in your head like, yeah, I used to I used

1065
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: to upload every day when you were watching. I used

1066
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: to upload every single day. I think I did it

1067
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: for two years straight, so like six eight videos or

1068
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: something in a row every single day. So if people

1069
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: are binging, they're always like they're looking for that next

1070
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: and that's that's hard. I mean it's hard. I mean,

1071
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: you live your life a whole completely different way. I

1072
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: was secluded out there in the nowhere, so it was

1073
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: like every day it was like something new, trying to

1074
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: create some type of new content for people. And that's

1075
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: whenever I kind of like, probably when you've found me,

1076
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: it's kind of when I started, uh, getting a little

1077
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: bit bigger and um just because you get you know,

1078
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: putting the work into it, because I mean, the biggest

1079
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: thing about doing YouTube is consistency and in the same

1080
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: type of thing. So now it's a little bit different

1081
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: where it's all about algorithms and stuff like that. Back

1082
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: in the day. It was kind of just like, well,

1083
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: if I find this guy, I'm just gonna keep watching it. So,

1084
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: you know, YouTube kind of puts things in front of

1085
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: your face, now if you're consistent. So and it was like,

1086
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: when you're doing all that early on, what percentage of

1087
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: your stuff was related to the outdoors? Uh's I don't know,

1088
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: probably se I mean everybody who pretty much. Um Like,

1089
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: even if it was like a video about dip, it

1090
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: wasn't just like me reviewing the dip. It was like

1091
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: it was like a variety show. Like it was like

1092
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: there was an intro, there was the Okay, I'm gonna

1093
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: crack the can, I'm gonna put it in, and then

1094
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: it's like then we're gonna go check in in the

1095
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: deer stand and I'm like hunting that day, and so

1096
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: like I lived a white tail hunt out of that farm,

1097
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: and so I'd give him like an update from the stand.

1098
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: All right, guys, what's up wearing the stand? I haven't

1099
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 1: seen chip? All right, let's go back. You know, just

1100
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 1: stupid crap like that that you watch nowadays and it's like, oh,

1101
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: that's been done twenty times, but you know, uh, that

1102
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: was it was kind of always outdoor type of base

1103
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: because it was kind of like my audience and that's

1104
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: how I grew up. So because I grew I was

1105
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: born in Florida and then I grew up in Branson, Missouri,

1106
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 1: so that's kind of where my dad was. My dad's

1107
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: just a builder and um, so we moved a lot

1108
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: when when I was a kid, and then I just

1109
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: after when I graduated high school, I just became a

1110
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: rambler and I was all over the place. So I

1111
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 1: moved like eight times and eight years or something like that.

1112
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 1: So that was all over the place. So the aspect

1113
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: of it being like um, like the tobacco and dipping,

1114
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: all that just came out because that's what people caught onto. Yeah,

1115
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 1: it was well, I was like I was a different myself,

1116
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: but I was always you know, especially like where I

1117
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 1: lived in Kentucky, tobacco farms were very prevalent. You know,

1118
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,919
Speaker 1: you're driving through Kentucky, especially like eastern Kentucky, you see

1119
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 1: old male pouch barns and that Americana, Like it just

1120
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: gets me. I love lady loses spitting, you know what

1121
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 1: I mean. You got cleanex of stuff in there, and

1122
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: it's like she looks like an old little kitty cat.

1123
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: She's dipping, you know what I mean. It's probably in

1124
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 1: a bad movie too. Yeah. Yeah, but we love Eastern Kentucky.

1125
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: Um I uh so I just became like in love

1126
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: with like the Americana of it, the history of it

1127
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: and and uh and how it was made and all

1128
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff, and then ended up, you know,

1129
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 1: coming out with my own give me uh hit me

1130
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 1: with like a crash course on tobacco history. Okay, real

1131
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: crash course. Um. Basically, uh, what was it when Christopher

1132
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: Columbus came to America at the West Indies? Yeah, and

1133
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 1: so you know what did he think? He was in

1134
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: China or something like that. Where where do you think

1135
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 1: he landed? India? Okay, Um, so he comes somewhere new Yeah,

1136
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 1: but he gets Yeah, so he gets into the it

1137
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: was the Caribbean, and um he meets the indigenous people.

1138
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 1: This is the first time. Um, they do a little trade. Basically,

1139
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: it's like here's some indigenous people give give Christopher Columbus

1140
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 1: and his crew fruits, vegetables and these brown leaves, and

1141
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 1: they understand what the fruits and vegetables are. They have

1142
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 1: that over in Europe, but there they look at these

1143
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 1: brown leaves and they're like, what the hell is this

1144
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 1: smells like crap, just throw it away. Second time they

1145
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:51,439
Speaker 1: come back, they see the indigenous people smoking those brown

1146
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 1: leaves and then some of Christopher Columbus guy starts to

1147
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: try the stuff and they're like, what is this crazy? Right? Yeah,

1148
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 1: So so anyways, it was Christopher. It was basically Christopher

1149
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 1: clumb Is coming over here and uh and within a

1150
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 1: hundred years, I think it was by by six d.

1151
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 1: It was in every single country in the world within

1152
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 1: a hundred years. Yeah, and so um all over the place,

1153
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 1: and obviously here in America we had it's very prevalent.

1154
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 1: And so you know over in Virginia, Virginia was our

1155
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: main port for tobacco export. So when we would when

1156
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: back in the day before uh, like in in the

1157
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: seventeen hundreds, we had a m uh they would use Glasgow,

1158
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: Scotland because that was the shortest the shortest boat ride

1159
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 1: basically was from Virginia to Glasgow, Scotland, and so that's

1160
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 1: where that was kind of like their traveling corridor was

1161
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 1: between there and UM and Europe. Like was was everybody

1162
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 1: everybody was was into this tobacco thing. And and the

1163
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 1: indigenous people. The crazy thing was is they were already

1164
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 1: smoking it, they were already chewing it, they were already

1165
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 1: sniffing it. They were doing everything. And so when you

1166
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 1: know what the hell it looked like, Like, what did

1167
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 1: it look like before people started to cultivate it? What

1168
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 1: do you mean? And it's wild form? Where do you

1169
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 1: run into wild tobacco? Yeah, I don't know. I don't

1170
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 1: know about that. Um, I know that there are many

1171
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 1: different there are a number of different types or species

1172
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 1: of tobacco, tobacco plant, tobacco leaf. There's a bush here

1173
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 1: called tobacco brush. Huh, it's not tobacco. It's not tobacco. Okay,

1174
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 1: but I'm sure like places in Virginia and and Tobacco

1175
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: Road in North Carolina, that's a heavy spot. Yeah yeah,

1176
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 1: North Carolina, South Carolina, Kentucky. I like to see it

1177
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: in its wild state. Yeah. Yeah. We had a guy

1178
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 1: and to show up, like a guy that works on

1179
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 1: insects and plant evolution and whatnot. And he was talking

1180
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 1: about tracking down like what corn came from, you know,

1181
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 1: like a grass, it's like a American grass. Yeah. Yeah,

1182
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 1: it's really interesting. Actually you say that because I want

1183
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 1: to figure that out now. Um, and kind of like

1184
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: see it like girl, I could imagine like seeing it

1185
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 1: in the woods of Virginia, like like growing tobacco under

1186
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 1: oak tree or something. Yeah, it might not even be

1187
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 1: around anymore. Yeah, I don't know because the cold bars

1188
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 1: right like uh, the wild turkey that have you looked

1189
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 1: it up Chester? Well, it says it's native to southwestern

1190
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 1: United States, Mexico and parts of South America. I mean

1191
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 1: it goes back. Yeah, Messo America beyond six thousand years

1192
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 1: probably found it the same way they found cocoa leaves,

1193
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 1: walked through the woods shoot stuff man. Yeah. So um,

1194
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: but it was like it blew up all over the place.

1195
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 1: And I mean there was all different types of of

1196
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 1: use of it. Obviously, the smoking aspect of it was

1197
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 1: was very popular. Um. And then like I don't remember

1198
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 1: her name she was. I don't know if she was

1199
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: a queen or something. It wasn't like the Queen of

1200
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: England or something like that, but I think she was

1201
01:05:55,840 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 1: from Sweden. And tobacco crushing tobacco leaves up and then

1202
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 1: sniffing it was done by mostly women in the well no,

1203
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,959
Speaker 1: because it was polite, Like why that because they didn't

1204
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 1: want to do I don't know, I don't know, but

1205
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:16,919
Speaker 1: so I guess what they said is is it would

1206
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 1: cure headaches and so yeah, so uh so mostly women,

1207
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 1: especially in Sweden. The reason I say Sweden is because

1208
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 1: Sweden basically perfected the tobacco leaf when it came to

1209
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 1: moist snuff, not as far as smoking, but when it

1210
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 1: comes to like chewing it, dipping it. Nasal snuff, Sweden

1211
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 1: like killed it is native snuff, powdered like dried leaf,

1212
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:47,919
Speaker 1: powdered snuffy. Yeah, general, what's that is that nasal snuff? Okay?

1213
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 1: So this is so and I brought some. So this

1214
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 1: is open that top one, Steve, what do you mean

1215
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 1: the top one just over the Yeah, that's that's that's

1216
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 1: what you called a catch liad. Oh yeah, catch your

1217
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 1: spent choosing there and it wasn't here. There's one Let

1218
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 1: into that box real quick. What do you say? I

1219
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 1: need to get it? So I want to talk at okay,

1220
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:20,439
Speaker 1: I want to go with Krin's thing. So people snorted, Yeah,

1221
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 1: is it is it basically like dried? Yeah, it's dried. Yeah,

1222
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 1: you're doing cocaine. But it's a ground right you put

1223
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 1: it right here in your snuff box. That's what you

1224
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 1: call your snuff box. If you check this out, I

1225
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 1: got a message for the listeners. Yeah, take your arm,

1226
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:41,919
Speaker 1: how do you describe this? Make your arms straight? Yeah,

1227
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: make your arms straight so your arm and your hand

1228
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 1: are straight and rigid. And then lift your thumb up

1229
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 1: so it's pointing at the ceiling, and then cock your

1230
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 1: right hand ever so counter clockwise, and you'll notice that

1231
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: the base of your thumb shows up a little dimple,

1232
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 1: a crater, like almost at the wrist. Yeah. So that's

1233
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 1: how you measure it out I call your snuff box. Yeah, okay,

1234
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 1: you put pulverized tobacco and riff it up your nose

1235
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 1: and so you don't snort it. You don't snort it,

1236
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,600
Speaker 1: you sniff it. So it's just like just like that.

1237
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 1: So just brought some of that in that. That would

1238
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 1: have been great. But that's not popular that much anymore. No,

1239
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 1: it's not as popular now, but they still sell it.

1240
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:32,640
Speaker 1: So um. That was yeah. And I mean you have

1241
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 1: the Swedes like you smell you smell his general there.

1242
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 1: This is a Swedish snooze that's made in sweet and

1243
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 1: now careful smelling this but just who where do you

1244
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 1: get that? Jered, because I got something from I can't

1245
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 1: tell if it smells a pneumonia or mint. Yeah, it's

1246
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 1: does it taste like it smells? Dude? It So this

1247
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 1: is a like a porta John Amazon jar. If you

1248
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 1: put a cockroach and Amazon jar and toss that, they're guaranteed. Yeah.

1249
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:08,839
Speaker 1: So that so there's a lot of different types of tobacco.

1250
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:11,680
Speaker 1: When I talk about Sweden, how they kind of perfected it,

1251
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 1: and then over back in America, it's like we you

1252
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 1: know it was discovered here, I said, sniff not yeah,

1253
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 1: cres Like if you give her like what happen when

1254
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 1: you give someone with sobby but tell him something different

1255
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:34,879
Speaker 1: or something this christ so it's a little bit stronger.

1256
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 1: So this is do you taste the like, what's the

1257
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 1: purpose of that moment? That's got to be. So this

1258
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 1: is so that I'm telling you everybody over in Sweden

1259
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 1: because snooze is actually illegal right now and you're or

1260
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 1: in uh in the EU. So it's basically only like

1261
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 1: like Norway and and in Finland and Sweden it's legal. Uh,

1262
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 1: They're they're working on getting it back now because you

1263
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 1: know COVID and everything, people like you guys got to

1264
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 1: stop smoking then they and they're like, oh, well this is,

1265
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:03,600
Speaker 1: you know, safer, so we'll look into it. Basically is

1266
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 1: what they're saying now. But Sweden perfected it as as this.

1267
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:10,599
Speaker 1: This is snooze, So snooze. You don't have to spit

1268
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: like you can put this is a pouch. They call

1269
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 1: them portions over in Sweden. And so when you put

1270
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 1: this in and they usually put them upper deck they

1271
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 1: usually upper deck it, and upper deckers make a pecker better.

1272
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 1: So everybody, uh so you can do it at home

1273
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 1: and be bigger, bigger. Sorry, yeah, I Stu'm gonna stop

1274
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 1: doing that. And so you know, you throw one of

1275
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 1: these and your in your top lip. Now this has

1276
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 1: so Swedish snooze. There's a lot more nicktine than they

1277
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 1: have an American it's snuff over here. So this is

1278
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 1: like there's like twenty two milligrams and well are like

1279
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 1: three millie what's like a ship? What's in a cigarette?

1280
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 1: Just for the sake of comparing, I don't know exactly,

1281
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 1: but probably around that to three to six. So um

1282
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 1: so these are like that is like a that's like

1283
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 1: remember rememberhen you're a kid. Remember jolt cola. Oh yeah,

1284
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 1: it's like the goal and this is this is mid

1285
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 1: tier ammonia. Want again, but what was the booze? There's

1286
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:23,600
Speaker 1: no way on the planet would I mean, is that

1287
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 1: or something ammonium like treating the leaf? Is it? What's

1288
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 1: its purpose? So the thing about this is your This

1289
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 1: is more about the nicktine. This just for addicts. This yeah,

1290
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 1: and now this is still tobacco. So there's all different

1291
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:40,679
Speaker 1: types of stuff out there. You have like just Nicktine

1292
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 1: pouches now, which are huge. People do the zin and

1293
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 1: the and uh and v low and arms and things

1294
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, he's got one of them. It's got

1295
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 1: sweedish words on the back. Yeah. On the front it

1296
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 1: says thunder slip white dry thunder, and it's actually the

1297
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 1: right thunder. This one's actually this one's actually Odin's um,

1298
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 1: which is in here, which is and they have they

1299
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 1: have other ones called They have one called Siberia, probably

1300
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,679
Speaker 1: because you know, it's a cold snooze and they because

1301
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 1: it feels cold in your lip, which is like fifty milligrams,

1302
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 1: Is that like something mentally, it's very mentally. They have

1303
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 1: different flavors. But but the I'm telling you the Swedes,

1304
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 1: like people over in Europe, they the nicotine level that

1305
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 1: they all do over there is way bigger than we have.

1306
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 1: I had no idea because now, like I feel like

1307
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:36,919
Speaker 1: if you go to you know, in cities in South America,

1308
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 1: you kind of get a picture of what it used

1309
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:42,640
Speaker 1: to be was smoking. You can imagine what it used

1310
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 1: to be like here in the fifties. Yeah, we're just

1311
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 1: like everybody is always smoking, right ye, And it catches

1312
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 1: you off guard because of how how much use is

1313
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 1: just dropped off right here in the US. Yeah, I mean,

1314
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 1: with there's so many different types of alternatives now vaping,

1315
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 1: there's like the kind of like was like supposed to

1316
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 1: be to sell everybody's it's like the devil now, man,

1317
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 1: I think big tobacco had something to do with that,

1318
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 1: you do a little bit, There's there's no way they

1319
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 1: didn't in my opinion, there's just no way. Like the

1320
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 1: research campaign, the people don't realize that basically, like tobacco

1321
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 1: ran the world for a long time and it still

1322
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 1: kind of does. Like I mean, when you're talking about

1323
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 1: the biggest business in America and the world in general,

1324
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 1: it's it's still tobacco, like they got people on and uh,

1325
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 1: they coming off like creative people like tobacco. Well, tobacco

1326
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:46,560
Speaker 1: is I mean it's it's a stimulant, just like caffeineas

1327
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 1: and it's obviously you know tobacco as as natural nicotine

1328
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 1: in it. But it's um, it's a plant that everybody

1329
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 1: you know, loves to enjoy. Not everybody, but a lot

1330
01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 1: of people love to enjoy. So you know what watching

1331
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 1: them outlaw Josie Whales and he's got like the rope. Yeah,

1332
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:09,679
Speaker 1: that's twist tobacco and they take a chaw off tell

1333
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 1: is that that's say it's like a plug or a

1334
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 1: twist tobacco. But you know, chewing tobacco like Levi Garrett Redman,

1335
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 1: you know that Like it's in back. So it's basically

1336
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 1: that but dried together and they twist it together with

1337
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 1: molasses and they can the molasses kind of keeps it

1338
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 1: together well, and so it's like the actual plant the

1339
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:27,639
Speaker 1: leaves no no, no, so they stripped the leaves. Um

1340
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 1: So like with with with American tobacco, like when you're

1341
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,560
Speaker 1: talking about like cope and egg in and uh and

1342
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 1: and things in your dip um or or Levi, Garrett

1343
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 1: red Man, things like that. You know, you're gonna strip

1344
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:43,720
Speaker 1: the leaves off the plant. Um, you're gonna put them

1345
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 1: in your You're basically going to clean them up. You're

1346
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: gonna hang him in a in a barn. You're gonna

1347
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 1: put sawdust under it. You're gonna light to sawdust, and

1348
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna fire cure the tobacco makes it really dark leaf. Yeah,

1349
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:55,600
Speaker 1: it's like a fire cure. Not all of them. Some

1350
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 1: of them are air dried, some of them. There's there's

1351
01:14:57,360 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 1: all different types of cures for for tobacco. Yeah, Like

1352
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 1: cigars are done a different way. Smokeless tobacco has done

1353
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 1: a different way sometimes like a dark dark, fire cured

1354
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:12,799
Speaker 1: dip like smokes tobacco. Um, you get that darker taste

1355
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 1: in it. So it's like with fire. Yeah, it's smoke basically. Yeah.

1356
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,680
Speaker 1: And so that you know, the biggest thing about like

1357
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 1: cigarettes comparing it to dip is when you light up

1358
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,560
Speaker 1: a cigarette, you're burning the leaf. You're never burning a

1359
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 1: smokeless tobacco leaf. That's what it's called smokes tobacco. So

1360
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:35,640
Speaker 1: when you're burning cigarette, you're I think it's something like

1361
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 1: six thousand chemicals you're releasing with one cigarette with dip.

1362
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 1: It's so minimum that they don't ever they don't ever

1363
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:47,600
Speaker 1: even talk about it. It's so like there's there's no

1364
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 1: you know, um, the t s n A levels are

1365
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 1: completely different. T s n A is is like cancer

1366
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 1: causing chemicals that are in tobacco that tobacco just naturally

1367
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:58,600
Speaker 1: has in it t sn A. T s n A

1368
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 1: levels and smokes tobacco were so low that they never

1369
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:03,600
Speaker 1: talked about it. So like the American Cancer Society just

1370
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 1: came out with a paper a couple of years ago,

1371
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:07,639
Speaker 1: and they used to have it all the time because

1372
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 1: big tobacco. There was like a war on tobacco for

1373
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 1: a long time because people are going to cancer from

1374
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 1: the cigarettes. You know, everybody smoked back in the sixties

1375
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 1: and seventies like crazy, but it wasn't like really put

1376
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 1: out there that it was bad for you. And then

1377
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 1: and then you know, in the nineties, when everything started

1378
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:24,639
Speaker 1: getting a little bit more goody two shoes, everybody was like, Okay, yeah,

1379
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 1: this this this ain't good for you. I'm starting to

1380
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 1: cough up along now I've been smoking for twenty years.

1381
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 1: So it started to get a little bit, you know,

1382
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 1: people were taking it a little bit more serious. That's

1383
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 1: when smoke was tobacco got a little bit bigger. But

1384
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:37,679
Speaker 1: then because it was made by some of the same

1385
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 1: big tobacco brands like Camel has their own and and

1386
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 1: Marbo they had very similar companies, they kind of pieced

1387
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:47,640
Speaker 1: it together. But the American Cancer Society, they just came

1388
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 1: out with the thing a couple a couple of years ago.

1389
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 1: I think it was twenty nineteen. UM of the seventeen

1390
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 1: like leading causes of cancer and smokes. Tobacco wasn't even

1391
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 1: on a Cigarettes was on the top. There was like

1392
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 1: it was like a city and hepatitis and all this stuff.

1393
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:05,639
Speaker 1: It wasn't even on there. Now I've talked, I've I've

1394
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 1: interviewed um a few doctors on this because I've been interested.

1395
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 1: You know, I've never had an issue. I take care

1396
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 1: of my teeth, but I've never had an issue. UM,

1397
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 1: I've seen gumer session and people. Never seen anybody or

1398
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 1: hurt anybody, like getting actual cancer from dip. You know,

1399
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 1: always if we always hear about people getting lip can

1400
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:25,600
Speaker 1: I've always telling dirty's gonna get lip cancer. That's not true. No,

1401
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 1: that's just in TV. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean,

1402
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know it might have happened. I don't know.

1403
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 1: I haven't heard it yet. But I've talked to this doctor.

1404
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 1: He's a I think he still is a professor at

1405
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 1: the University of Louisville. His names Dr Radu. He's wrote

1406
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 1: a book Is he in the Is he in the

1407
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 1: back pocket? A big tobacco might be? He might be,

1408
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 1: but he's but he's completely against cigarette companies, which is

1409
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 1: the which is crazy because most of the cigarette companies

1410
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 1: own these smokes tobacco companies. So I don't think so.

1411
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 1: But he wrote a book called How Smokeless Tobacco Can

1412
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 1: Save Your Life, and he basically just goes on about

1413
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 1: how like he's been researching this for like thirty years

1414
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:58,760
Speaker 1: and he's never found that T S and A levels

1415
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 1: and smokeless tobacco if you're not lighting it. He's like,

1416
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 1: there's He's like, there's you have more of a like

1417
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 1: you have the same amount of hurting your body is

1418
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 1: putting sunflowers in your sunflower seeds. And the doctor told

1419
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 1: my dad, you know, you gotta quit here, try these

1420
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 1: pouches or whatever. So I was always doing the long

1421
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 1: cut and I was like, why you did those pouches?

1422
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 1: He was like, I never got it until it's like convenient,

1423
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I was in here, I've

1424
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 1: already had a couple of dips. But if I'm here,

1425
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 1: I got stuff all over my face, you know what

1426
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 1: I mean. It's like it's it's clean, and I get it.

1427
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 1: But though they put big old cancer warnings on the

1428
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:33,640
Speaker 1: back of the dip, that's a crazy So here's so like,

1429
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 1: here's let me say, I want to say, I want

1430
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 1: to add one thing in. Yeah, smoke and killed all

1431
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 1: four of my grandparents. My grandpa, my maternal grandfather, smoked

1432
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 1: himself to death and took his wife down with him.

1433
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 1: And she needs smoke because she sat in the living

1434
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 1: room with him for fifty years watched the smoke. Cigarettes

1435
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 1: killed the both of them with lung cancer. And my

1436
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 1: old man had and he quit. He had quit, and

1437
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 1: he worked as assoff to quit, went to a hypnotist,

1438
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 1: tried everything. Eventually he made he gave ten to one

1439
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 1: odds to anyone that would do it that he could

1440
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 1: quit and and just made cash bets tend to one. Yeah,

1441
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 1: And that's how he quit because he was no way

1442
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 1: going to pay out all that money. But you can't

1443
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:27,600
Speaker 1: second hand it. You can if you drink it. But

1444
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 1: I didn't do it. I didn't do like enough to

1445
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:32,600
Speaker 1: get uh. I didn't do it enough, you know, I

1446
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 1: think like these guys were saying too with the My

1447
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:37,760
Speaker 1: dentist said, no, this doesn't say anthing about cancer. Go ahead, dirt,

1448
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 1: that's this is not tobacco. Okay, okay, this is. But

1449
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 1: my dentist said, uh, I mean, I haven't been for

1450
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 1: a couple of years, but last time I went, and

1451
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 1: he said, if you move it around, He's like, what

1452
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 1: can cause lip cancer is the brasiveness, like you're saying

1453
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 1: with sunflower seeds, but if you're dipping and you're switching

1454
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:59,680
Speaker 1: switching people get lip cancer, have a what you call

1455
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 1: the thumb pocket. Yea, they have a snuff box in

1456
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 1: their mouth. The brasiveness is where the cancer starts. But

1457
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 1: if you're moving it around. The dentist told me, I'm

1458
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:20,639
Speaker 1: gonna go yeah. But when I'm super curious about, uh,

1459
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 1: are all the different ways that people cure create et cetera.

1460
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 1: Smokeless tobacco and then like regionally, like who choose what,

1461
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 1: who dips what? Like that whole kind of So in uh,

1462
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 1: in Sweden, like I was talking about, they have snooze,

1463
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:41,599
Speaker 1: which they got that name from snuff over here um,

1464
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:45,719
Speaker 1: and that's snort and tobacco. No, well so that's nasal snuff,

1465
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 1: but like this is still considered snuff. Like this stuff

1466
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 1: in your can. They call it everything, snuff, dip, chow,

1467
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 1: chaw ub, whatever. There's so many names for it, but

1468
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 1: but it's still all the same thing. You're just talking

1469
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 1: about smokeless tobacco. So over in Sweden they have what

1470
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 1: you call snooze um, which snooze in a long cut

1471
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:05,720
Speaker 1: form and didn't bring any but it's it's like a

1472
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 1: very muddy texture, but it looks very similar to uh,

1473
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 1: to a long cut dip like this. And so what

1474
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 1: um what they do different than what American companies will

1475
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,639
Speaker 1: do with theirs because American companies will will ferment theirs.

1476
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 1: Which boys are they're packing? You guys can't you guys

1477
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 1: can't be in this conversation. Which an alternative? We're gonna

1478
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 1: sample soon they're doing an alternative? So which one is

1479
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:35,639
Speaker 1: that winter? That's good? Yeah, there's a lot of things

1480
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 1: I want to try. That bourbon one or that peach one.

1481
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 1: But so you guys do it. You guys do it

1482
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 1: tobacco alternatives right now. Yeah, so this is yeah, at

1483
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 1: the time, this is my company outlaw, but the um

1484
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 1: we're still talking about tobacco. So yeah, we haven't gotten

1485
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 1: into the alternative. So so, uh, what the Swedes do

1486
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 1: instead of fermenting the dip which in America they you know,

1487
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 1: you've ever seen like a picture of an old tobacco

1488
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 1: barn with the you know, tobacco leaves hand, Yeah, and

1489
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 1: there's smoke coming out from the sawdust and I don't

1490
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 1: know about that part. This is all new to me,

1491
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 1: the whole smoke in it thing. Yeah. Yeah, so it

1492
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 1: just kind of makes me take a smoke fish. Yeah.

1493
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 1: They they like cure the tobacco with smoke, So that's

1494
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 1: called fermenting. In Sweden. What they would do is they

1495
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:19,599
Speaker 1: they it's called a past it's pasteurization method, so it's

1496
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 1: more of a steam cure, which they say, which that's

1497
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 1: just their method of doing it, which is a whole

1498
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 1: different way of of consuming it. But they sit like,

1499
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 1: with doing that method, you don't have to spit, it

1500
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:36,519
Speaker 1: doesn't really juice up, just put in that sweetish, you

1501
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 1: just put the ammonia in there. Well, these boys done

1502
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 1: here doing alternatives and you're doing the ammonia. I just

1503
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 1: how many milligrams and nicotine will kill a man, and

1504
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:52,720
Speaker 1: it said like sixty here, so let me get three.

1505
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 1: There's no way I've done. The most I've ever done

1506
01:22:57,200 --> 01:23:07,600
Speaker 1: I think was nearly nine. So I gotta I got

1507
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 1: a buddy. We call him fat Boy, and maybe you should.

1508
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 1: We got a vengeables five vegebles like man like dip man.

1509
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:21,599
Speaker 1: It's like a special power. No man, a nicktine could

1510
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 1: kill freaking I would woof fans his ass. But the

1511
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 1: bad guy's hiding in the dip shd. You're going there.

1512
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, some Swedish hat fields and yeah, that Siberia

1513
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 1: I was talking about earlier, which is like almost fifty

1514
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 1: MILLI my buddy, fat Boy, he goes. He's like, you

1515
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 1: won't do a full candidate, and so I was like,

1516
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 1: I'll do a full cannon. He's in your at one time. Yeah,

1517
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 1: And I looked up that stat you know, they're like,

1518
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 1: what's the nicktine overdose and it says like sixty And

1519
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 1: I was like, I've done way more than sixty. Be

1520
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 1: four so I just put the whole thing in my

1521
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 1: mouth and I kept it in for like four minutes.

1522
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 1: I did it on a video And did you have

1523
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:11,639
Speaker 1: to use the restroom right away? After that? I never

1524
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 1: threw up? What did your body do? Like? Increased heart rate?

1525
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 1: Increased heart started sweating? Like really bad? Just what your candor?

1526
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 1: That's a little Yeah, what's wrong with the jug? Just

1527
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 1: you too good for the jug? You don't want to

1528
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 1: take someone else's jug. That's like, but how did you

1529
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:33,560
Speaker 1: manipulate your can there for that? I just popped a

1530
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 1: hole in it? Yeah? Is that like an old dip triper?

1531
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 1: You were a wrestler in high school? Right? Did you

1532
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:42,720
Speaker 1: guys dip to cut weight? I mean I didn't. Does

1533
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 1: that work? But yeah, people do. When I was a kid, man,

1534
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:49,920
Speaker 1: they you in high school, the guys on the rassling

1535
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:54,800
Speaker 1: team would put a garbage bag on the punch two

1536
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:56,680
Speaker 1: holes will hold for their head and a hold for

1537
01:24:56,760 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 1: their arms. Put a garbage bag on. I could dip

1538
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:04,200
Speaker 1: and run around like that. That's how I started differing.

1539
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 1: Spitting spitting and then wearing that garbage bag to sweat.

1540
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 1: I thought you and then you going to the fight.

1541
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 1: Then the fight you going to the fight, but never

1542
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:19,599
Speaker 1: felt better, never felt better. Appetite suppressing, isn't it? You said,

1543
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 1: what appetite isn't an appetite suppressing? Yeah, yeah, it could be. Yeah,

1544
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 1: I can see that, but I think that's not the tobacco.

1545
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 1: I think that's a nick team. You're talking about taking

1546
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 1: that full? Can you guys remember the horse shoe there? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

1547
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 1: I've seen him do many of those. Yeah you do,

1548
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:38,600
Speaker 1: He's done the whole what's the most you've done? Like

1549
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 1: two cans? Probably, and you didn't you just have small mouth.

1550
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 1: I can't do that. But there's some people, man that

1551
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 1: they'll they'll just I mean back in the day on YouTube,

1552
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 1: I remember I would never do like the challenge type stuff,

1553
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 1: but like there was you know, remember the cinnamon challenge.

1554
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 1: This was way before that, and so everybody loved to

1555
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 1: do this cinnamon challenge. Cinnamon challenge when you just put

1556
01:25:58,200 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 1: a spoonful of cinnamon in your mouth and you try

1557
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 1: to hold it anyway down and then there's like some bottom,

1558
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:04,600
Speaker 1: some ice water on yourself or something like that. The

1559
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 1: ice water challenge that was for that was for Yeah,

1560
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 1: there's a shoot, there's Oh speaking of confusing my sports stuff.

1561
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:20,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so my birthday is in February, but dirt

1562
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:23,439
Speaker 1: has brought me a birthday present and it's a dude.

1563
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 1: Uh slam dunk slam dunking. There's all there's an athlete

1564
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:37,840
Speaker 1: slam dunking in a basketball who says touchdown. I saw that.

1565
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 1: This is like a custom a custom shirt for me

1566
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 1: who's had a lot of problems with sports analogies. Doesn't

1567
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 1: stuff you want to do them, that's gonna mess. So

1568
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 1: when I got to make a reference to a sports player,

1569
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:54,800
Speaker 1: I'll be like, uh, Ridge Perry, that's the only guy

1570
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:58,640
Speaker 1: I can think of. You know are people now? I

1571
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:01,560
Speaker 1: got Pete Alonzo, Yeah, I know him, so I like

1572
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 1: watching him play. Aren't all the tobacco companies for the

1573
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 1: most part, like Copenhagen, Grizzly Skull, Aren't they all owned

1574
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:11,680
Speaker 1: by the same company. Uh so copenag his Skull, Um

1575
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 1: Red Seal, They're all own by the same company. It's

1576
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 1: all us Smokeless and they are owned by out Tria,

1577
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 1: which out Tria owns a bunch of day Bone. Everybody. Well,

1578
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 1: it's like the big like smoking company. Philip Morris, Yeah,

1579
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 1: they don't. They're not. They didn't throw down on dip

1580
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 1: Philip Morris. Yah that Philip Morris has dip. Yeah. Pretty

1581
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 1: much all the big like cigarette companies that you can

1582
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 1: think of, they didn't think to get into it. Yeah,

1583
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:40,719
Speaker 1: and they're pretty much all owned like by somebody bigger

1584
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 1: that has a branch out of smokeless tobacco and cigarette tobacco.

1585
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 1: A lot of these companies will roll their cigarettes and

1586
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 1: make dip in the same manufacturing units. So do you

1587
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 1: rub elbows with them? Boys with outlaut dip? Uh? Like

1588
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:56,920
Speaker 1: Philip I used to back in the day, I used

1589
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 1: to um. I used to be ambassador for a lot

1590
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 1: of people stokers. Was in a massador for copenag and

1591
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 1: I did a lot of stuff for Really, you were

1592
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:12,599
Speaker 1: a chebacco Wars missing up Star Wars and chewing tobacco.

1593
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 1: We've already got our movie. Chebacco a good movie man

1594
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 1: like Star Wars tobacco. Yeah, chewbacco. It was like wullie

1595
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 1: guy that needs to get some do So. I had

1596
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 1: a buddy in high school that on the can of

1597
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 1: Copenhagen Winter Green And you can correct me if I'm

1598
01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 1: wrong here, but I believe he was telling the truth.

1599
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 1: He said that was in our family's line, Waymond Copenhagen,

1600
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:41,439
Speaker 1: and his last name was Wymon. That is that w

1601
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 1: e y Yeah, okay, interesting, yes, uh so Waymon George

1602
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:48,800
Speaker 1: Wyman is his name. He's the one shout out to

1603
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:52,160
Speaker 1: Nick Wyman, Nick, Whyman, I'm interested, that's cool, that's cool

1604
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:54,960
Speaker 1: to South Carolina. He showed me on the can the

1605
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:57,720
Speaker 1: w C. That's kind of like reading a dollar bill.

1606
01:28:57,920 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 1: You don't realize like, oh, that's on a dollar bill,

1607
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 1: and he's like, that's my grandfather somebody's initials. Yeah. Yeah.

1608
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 1: So when people look at like a copen egg and

1609
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:06,880
Speaker 1: can it said, you know, most people would be like,

1610
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:09,680
Speaker 1: there's like a WC on there. C W they see

1611
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 1: so that stands for Wayman's copening and which George Wyman

1612
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 1: was kind of like the first guy who's started doing it.

1613
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 1: My buddy Ronnie, who's who's bound on the show. Uh

1614
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 1: quite a few times over the years. He had He's

1615
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:28,759
Speaker 1: got a lot of quotes. He's the one that introduced

1616
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:31,040
Speaker 1: me to the idea that you should never wear a

1617
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:35,879
Speaker 1: hat that has more personality than you do. Sound advice.

1618
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 1: So I should take your first light hat off. No,

1619
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:43,760
Speaker 1: that's not a person there. His hat doesn't have more

1620
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 1: It's a awfully filthy hat. It matches the wear. Yeah,

1621
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 1: we don't wear a hat that has more personality than

1622
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 1: you do. I think it's kind of advice against like

1623
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:55,720
Speaker 1: the wrong person getting the cowboy hat. Yeah, like I

1624
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:58,640
Speaker 1: have no business. Yeah yeah, if you ever see me

1625
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:01,680
Speaker 1: in a cowboy I would like you to ask me

1626
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 1: to remove it. Okay, but you rocked a beaver hat

1627
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:07,760
Speaker 1: for sure. Oh I wear yeah, dude, I wear I

1628
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 1: wear a fur I wear a beaver fur hat because

1629
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 1: I grew up as a trapper. I got to your

1630
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:16,640
Speaker 1: right to have a beaver hat. It's a northern you know,

1631
01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 1: like northern symbol. Yeah, that's not more personality. No, No,

1632
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:23,160
Speaker 1: I was like, I had no business in the stats,

1633
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 1: and uh Ronnie also said I can't. He said, both

1634
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:32,080
Speaker 1: of these are one of these. He said, if your

1635
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 1: dad's your best friend, you ain't got any friends. Or

1636
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:39,679
Speaker 1: he said, if your wife's your best friend, you ain't

1637
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 1: got any friends. I can't remember he either said both.

1638
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 1: I know he said one, but when me and my

1639
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:47,880
Speaker 1: buddies talked about like, no, that's not what he said.

1640
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 1: He said. He might have said both. It might just

1641
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:56,360
Speaker 1: be a thing. So he told me the difference betweens.

1642
01:30:56,680 --> 01:31:00,880
Speaker 1: Like he's like, he doesn't like smoker. He started, it's

1643
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:04,600
Speaker 1: kind of weird he started smoking, but he didn't historically

1644
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 1: didn't like smokers because they don't they can't do anything right,

1645
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:13,720
Speaker 1: he said the tour. A guy that dips probably has

1646
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:17,679
Speaker 1: the work with his hands. Yeah, and like he always

1647
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:19,799
Speaker 1: used to feel, there's nothing more useless than a smoker

1648
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 1: because he's got to do everything one hand all time.

1649
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:26,720
Speaker 1: But a guy that dips probably works. And that's where

1650
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:29,480
Speaker 1: you see most of it, especially in America at least construction.

1651
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, that's about like who you know, rural

1652
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 1: urban divide, like what who's doing what? Who's doing what?

1653
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:41,880
Speaker 1: Kind like is it regional? Is it? You know? Yeah?

1654
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:46,160
Speaker 1: I think well definitely, like uh, smokeless tobacco like this,

1655
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 1: you know, this dip stuff here that's pretty much big

1656
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:52,960
Speaker 1: all over here, like in America, that's about it. Over

1657
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:56,519
Speaker 1: in Sweden and things like that, they'd have the portions

1658
01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 1: like I gave you there, that's a that's just great. Yeah,

1659
01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:01,479
Speaker 1: and then you got they have loose snooze, which is

1660
01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:05,720
Speaker 1: very similar similar to this, but it's it's different like

1661
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:08,120
Speaker 1: it's it's more of a tobacco taste than than we

1662
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:09,880
Speaker 1: you know, like this one's this is one of our

1663
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:12,639
Speaker 1: sweet tea flavors. So it's like we we can basically

1664
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:16,439
Speaker 1: flavor whatever we want, and over there it's a lot different.

1665
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:18,959
Speaker 1: But like this type of stuff here is is basically

1666
01:32:19,160 --> 01:32:22,479
Speaker 1: just in and it's not even in rural America anymore.

1667
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:24,800
Speaker 1: A lot of people that used to be smokers and

1668
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:27,720
Speaker 1: stuff here they're getting onto the nicotine patches like those

1669
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:31,800
Speaker 1: zins and and things like that. But um, as far

1670
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:35,880
Speaker 1: as there's smoking version of alternatives, yeah, what was that

1671
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:40,560
Speaker 1: wild back American spirits which were but it doesn't have

1672
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 1: any like additives or yeah. And then they had the

1673
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:53,160
Speaker 1: electronic cigarettes, which yeah, you're right, yeah, that's yeah, you're right. Yeah,

1674
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 1: I was thinking about that. Yeah, and then vape I

1675
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 1: guess considered that too, But it's just it's just a

1676
01:32:57,200 --> 01:32:59,640
Speaker 1: little bit different because there's no I mean, yeah, I

1677
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:02,400
Speaker 1: guess it is the same. You know. That's a that's

1678
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:07,640
Speaker 1: a that's a good correlation, like alternative tobacco or alternative

1679
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:11,240
Speaker 1: tobacco tins dip being like when people had like e

1680
01:33:11,439 --> 01:33:15,679
Speaker 1: cigarettes and I to save the lungs, frock the guns

1681
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:29,679
Speaker 1: that Steve did you ever did when you were working

1682
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 1: for ron No, dude. But here's the thing. Any of

1683
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:35,959
Speaker 1: this I mean, oh yeah, I had no no, never seriously,

1684
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:39,799
Speaker 1: so I've never took you took one of my schools

1685
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:42,800
Speaker 1: in Arkansas at the campfire? How long did I have it? For?

1686
01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:49,360
Speaker 1: About five minutes maybe four? So Ronnie when I worked

1687
01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:52,200
Speaker 1: for him, they he That's when I found out about

1688
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:54,439
Speaker 1: the snorts stuff and took a rip of that about

1689
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:58,680
Speaker 1: blew my head off. That was also when the first

1690
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:01,240
Speaker 1: time I tried horse meat. Ronnie had a can of

1691
01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:05,360
Speaker 1: ground up horse meat. I still had the bone chunks

1692
01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 1: in it. Isn't Ronnie Chain smoking cigars now, So this

1693
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:14,360
Speaker 1: is partly so we're like when I worked for Ronnie,

1694
01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:16,799
Speaker 1: that was like a whole education and like tobacco products

1695
01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:18,720
Speaker 1: again because he's a millwright. So all the guys that

1696
01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:21,640
Speaker 1: worked for him are all like a Lottam addicted to

1697
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:26,120
Speaker 1: booze lotm addicted to dip. Ronnie he wasn't then he

1698
01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:29,200
Speaker 1: became because he got in like he started smoking cigars

1699
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:34,160
Speaker 1: like a gentleman. He started getting like he like I

1700
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:37,040
Speaker 1: can see that guys going the other direction, like a gentleman,

1701
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:40,120
Speaker 1: he'd like smoke a cigar with the boys. The next

1702
01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:45,040
Speaker 1: thing you know, he's chained smoking him. Yeah. I think

1703
01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:48,479
Speaker 1: that is something through to your question. Current for me tobacco,

1704
01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:51,960
Speaker 1: when I got started into it was the camaraderie like

1705
01:34:52,479 --> 01:34:55,639
Speaker 1: co workers at the rancher, my uncles and dad. It's

1706
01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:57,840
Speaker 1: like you at the end of the day or at lunch,

1707
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:00,760
Speaker 1: you'd like, I'll have a dip together. Yeah. Dirt was

1708
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:02,800
Speaker 1: born on a cattle ranch, and he was saying that

1709
01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 1: when when you got you could shoot parade, what the

1710
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:09,000
Speaker 1: hell was it? I said that at headquarters they had

1711
01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:11,640
Speaker 1: the essentials at their store, so that we were like

1712
01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:14,840
Speaker 1: an hour from like a small last town, you know.

1713
01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:18,679
Speaker 1: But at at the ranch headquarters, you could you could

1714
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:22,320
Speaker 1: just grab a box twenty two shows or Copenhagen snuffcannon.

1715
01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:25,840
Speaker 1: It would just be taking off your pay for that bullets. Yeah,

1716
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:28,479
Speaker 1: that was the two things they had in the store. Yeah,

1717
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:33,240
Speaker 1: that's my kind of store. Wait, so when you tried

1718
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:38,200
Speaker 1: it around the campfire, did you go through the ritual vomit? No,

1719
01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:42,680
Speaker 1: because here's let me give my full tobacco history. Uh,

1720
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 1: my man smoked for a long time. So when my

1721
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:50,760
Speaker 1: old man was in the war and oneth off the war,

1722
01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:56,040
Speaker 1: like in World War Two, they gave you cigarettes. Your

1723
01:35:56,120 --> 01:35:58,439
Speaker 1: sea ration would come with three cigarettes inside of it.

1724
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:04,080
Speaker 1: They also he was staying, so he got queued up

1725
01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:08,719
Speaker 1: in North Africa, and then they went down to invade

1726
01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:12,000
Speaker 1: Italy at Anzio beach hat but they all just got

1727
01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:14,439
Speaker 1: rat holed away in North Africa while they're getting ready

1728
01:36:14,479 --> 01:36:17,639
Speaker 1: to do the to start doing all the beach invasions,

1729
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:21,519
Speaker 1: and he got into a kind of a nasty business

1730
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:28,160
Speaker 1: where they would take cartons. The North Africans wanted American cigarettes,

1731
01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:33,560
Speaker 1: so they would take cartons of cigarettes, take all the

1732
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:39,360
Speaker 1: packs out, pack it full of sawdust to get the

1733
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 1: right haft, put two packs on the end, and sell

1734
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:47,519
Speaker 1: them out of the trains because people are jones and

1735
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:51,360
Speaker 1: so bad for American cigarettes. And you'd kind of hold

1736
01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:53,960
Speaker 1: it out, take the money and then hand them the thing.

1737
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:55,439
Speaker 1: And you want to get into two packs and there's

1738
01:36:55,479 --> 01:36:57,960
Speaker 1: a carton. So he got into that racket, he used

1739
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:01,479
Speaker 1: to explain to me, but worked very very hard to

1740
01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:07,360
Speaker 1: quit smoking, so he would have beaten my ass back. Okay,

1741
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:10,760
Speaker 1: let me give you example how bad this dude. I

1742
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:13,040
Speaker 1: should find this guy to write him a letter of apology.

1743
01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:18,760
Speaker 1: Our neighbors had some cousin or something got out of

1744
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:22,360
Speaker 1: the Marine Corps come to live with him. His name

1745
01:37:22,439 --> 01:37:24,160
Speaker 1: was John. I'm not gonna give his last name, j

1746
01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:27,880
Speaker 1: O n no h. He was. He was a bad

1747
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:32,000
Speaker 1: smoker and uh real bad smoker. Remember, ran around of

1748
01:37:32,040 --> 01:37:34,559
Speaker 1: cowboy boots. But anyways, around the time he started living

1749
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:36,320
Speaker 1: there and smoking and everything, just coming out of the

1750
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:40,960
Speaker 1: Marine Corps, we got onto smoking corn silks rolled up

1751
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:45,439
Speaker 1: in newsprint, and we got caught smoking corn silks rolled

1752
01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:48,040
Speaker 1: up a new sprint out in the woods. And my

1753
01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:50,280
Speaker 1: old man promptly went over there and blamed the dude

1754
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:54,040
Speaker 1: out of the Marine Corps for it and gave him

1755
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:58,680
Speaker 1: an asked you and blame with this had nothing to

1756
01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:01,240
Speaker 1: do with it, right. So a lot of like like

1757
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:07,640
Speaker 1: various like tobacco interactions. In fifth grade, we're making agricultural

1758
01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:11,000
Speaker 1: maps where you had to glue the agricultural product onto

1759
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 1: a map. Okay, so the Midwest glue some corn someone

1760
01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:19,719
Speaker 1: down there had for some reason, someone brought in tobacco

1761
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:26,880
Speaker 1: and fifth grade me and Stanley Johnson ate a bunch

1762
01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 1: of it. They had to call our moms I was.

1763
01:38:31,160 --> 01:38:36,080
Speaker 1: I was. I'm not kidding. I was, honest to God

1764
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 1: having hallucinations. I was unbelievably sick. How much did you

1765
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:48,519
Speaker 1: guys eat? I don't remember how in fifth grade I

1766
01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:51,560
Speaker 1: took it out in the playground, trying to pretend that

1767
01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:53,840
Speaker 1: we knew that it was like a thing to do,

1768
01:38:54,439 --> 01:38:59,479
Speaker 1: that you're supposed to eat it, and we ate it out.

1769
01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:01,720
Speaker 1: Josie Way, I was spitting on his dog, and oh, yeah,

1770
01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:04,360
Speaker 1: we knew all that. Yeah, Buzzard's got the same as worms,

1771
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:09,439
Speaker 1: like all that rolling around our heads and so sick.

1772
01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:15,200
Speaker 1: I was, honest to God hallucinating. So I think that

1773
01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:19,280
Speaker 1: those sets of experiences nothing to do with my dad

1774
01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:24,639
Speaker 1: conning Arabs out of that. But like all the other stuff,

1775
01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:30,679
Speaker 1: UM was never into it. Now. The one positive experience

1776
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:32,720
Speaker 1: I've had with tobacco but I didn't do because I

1777
01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:34,160
Speaker 1: don't want to become I don't want to become an

1778
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:39,280
Speaker 1: addict is uh Um. Down in New Mexico. One of

1779
01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:42,880
Speaker 1: my friends had like some kind and he pours bourbon

1780
01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 1: and romans something I don't want to name him. Mike Rule,

1781
01:39:51,320 --> 01:39:54,679
Speaker 1: I think, opens the bag up and pour some booze

1782
01:39:54,720 --> 01:40:01,439
Speaker 1: in there. Bag opens his chewbag up dumps booze in it. Ye. Wait, Jared,

1783
01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:06,120
Speaker 1: do you have a bourbon or something flavored? Yeah, we

1784
01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:10,240
Speaker 1: got this yellow bland which is pineapple room smell that one.

1785
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:14,240
Speaker 1: You crack it open, Steve. When I says pack, dip,

1786
01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:16,360
Speaker 1: spit and joy, Steve, will you try something with me?

1787
01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:19,800
Speaker 1: This is this isn't this is yeah, this is the

1788
01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:22,240
Speaker 1: pac of free. They're still nicetine in it, but there's

1789
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:26,160
Speaker 1: no tobacco, huh, Steve. When I was guiding back in

1790
01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:29,800
Speaker 1: the day, some guy gave me a cigar speaking of like,

1791
01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:33,680
Speaker 1: I can't work with smoking this cuban cigar. And I

1792
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:37,200
Speaker 1: was like eighteen, and I felt real bad if I

1793
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:40,120
Speaker 1: didn't finish this thing. So I was rolling down the

1794
01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:44,680
Speaker 1: river with this cuban in my mouth, telling him the

1795
01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:47,920
Speaker 1: cast left, tell him the cast right, with this giant cuban,

1796
01:40:49,240 --> 01:40:51,760
Speaker 1: and he was. It was like a celebratory cigar for

1797
01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:55,880
Speaker 1: catching a big fish. About ten minutes in of rowing

1798
01:40:55,960 --> 01:40:58,360
Speaker 1: with the cigar in my mouth, ended up puking all

1799
01:40:58,479 --> 01:41:02,080
Speaker 1: over the christ You did yeah, And that that day

1800
01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:04,439
Speaker 1: I did yeah. And I had to switch to uh

1801
01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:08,479
Speaker 1: switch chewing, you know, after that, just because there's too

1802
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 1: much smoke so work working man, Yeah, for sure, too much.

1803
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:16,439
Speaker 1: I got a really bad tobacco experience. We went to

1804
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:21,080
Speaker 1: see Stepping Wolf, Commander Cody and Head East all in

1805
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:24,920
Speaker 1: concert and had some King eddies. I remember everybody getting

1806
01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:27,320
Speaker 1: sick of puking off those king eddies, Like, what's what's

1807
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:30,559
Speaker 1: a king eddie? Oh? Those like ones you get at

1808
01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:33,120
Speaker 1: the gas station. Ye, yeah, that's sick from that. Yeah.

1809
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:36,439
Speaker 1: I celebrated my high school graduation with some cheap ass

1810
01:41:36,439 --> 01:41:38,760
Speaker 1: cigar and then I turned green, got real sick through

1811
01:41:38,840 --> 01:41:42,880
Speaker 1: up everywhere, and that was still smoked some cigars since

1812
01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:48,519
Speaker 1: But this what did you throw one in already? No?

1813
01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:50,439
Speaker 1: I didn't because I'm not sure if I want this

1814
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:55,479
Speaker 1: Georgia piece. Yeah, I'll go yet, all right, I think

1815
01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:58,920
Speaker 1: are you afraid of puken? I mean, I'll probably leave

1816
01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:01,160
Speaker 1: it in for a short amount of time before I

1817
01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:06,600
Speaker 1: start to get dizzy. I'm really sensitive to nicotine. So

1818
01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:08,639
Speaker 1: keep keep walking me through how you got into this? Then,

1819
01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:12,200
Speaker 1: so you eventually wanted to quit? No, no, no, no,

1820
01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:16,360
Speaker 1: I never wanted to quit. Chesters trying to quit, well,

1821
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:19,439
Speaker 1: chesters trying to quit, dirt quit quitting. Yeah, I got

1822
01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:21,720
Speaker 1: a big box. I hit here for you. We were

1823
01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:24,160
Speaker 1: in South America, and here here's how Dirt was gonna quit.

1824
01:42:24,760 --> 01:42:28,800
Speaker 1: We're in the jungle. Okay, I can see. I'm so

1825
01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:34,080
Speaker 1: abs pure to I don't I need a lesson of

1826
01:42:34,160 --> 01:42:37,519
Speaker 1: how to do this. Dirt brought to South America with him.

1827
01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:40,760
Speaker 1: He brought a kind of true he does not like,

1828
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:45,120
Speaker 1: and it was gonna be how it was. This is

1829
01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:47,960
Speaker 1: his quit plan. What kind did you bring? I think? Yeah,

1830
01:42:47,960 --> 01:42:49,920
Speaker 1: I think it was like I was in no grizzly.

1831
01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:52,360
Speaker 1: Well it was grizzly, but like wintering green or something. Okay,

1832
01:42:52,760 --> 01:43:01,519
Speaker 1: broad a kind you didn't like. That's a that's a

1833
01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:05,360
Speaker 1: big one. Okay, wait I should pinch off a much

1834
01:43:05,400 --> 01:43:08,240
Speaker 1: smaller amount. I was gonna say. I told Steve this

1835
01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:11,120
Speaker 1: in Arkansas. If you don't, you're small of a dip.

1836
01:43:12,280 --> 01:43:15,160
Speaker 1: Do you end up swallowing it and get it? Do

1837
01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:18,360
Speaker 1: you ever know anybody that gets addicted to the alternative

1838
01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:20,200
Speaker 1: or is it always go the other direction? Well this

1839
01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:22,479
Speaker 1: has nicotine in it. What I'm saying, no one ever

1840
01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:25,960
Speaker 1: like didn't dip but then got alternatives and got hooked

1841
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:28,240
Speaker 1: on alternative for sure. I think the Zans are a

1842
01:43:28,280 --> 01:43:31,120
Speaker 1: great example. Yeah, so like Zan's are a great example.

1843
01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:34,639
Speaker 1: Like you said, they're just it's just nicotine, salt and powder,

1844
01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:38,320
Speaker 1: just water and that's about it. In a in a pouch,

1845
01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:40,840
Speaker 1: starts on it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I know

1846
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:44,719
Speaker 1: a handful of in my mind thinking about now, handful

1847
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:49,120
Speaker 1: of women, women who never I'm messing this up. I

1848
01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:52,080
Speaker 1: can't even practice. I'm taking mind out. I'm scared. So

1849
01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:53,840
Speaker 1: you're doing it like the Swedish way. Now you got

1850
01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:56,320
Speaker 1: it in your palm. That's called bacon a prilla. Okay,

1851
01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 1: so I'm doing that. Whatever you just said. It's a

1852
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:03,679
Speaker 1: wrap song right there in a prilla. Already got my nose,

1853
01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:09,000
Speaker 1: got too scared. That's perfect, that's perfect. I'm not gonna okay.

1854
01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:11,280
Speaker 1: And then the upper lip or the lower lip, it

1855
01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:17,200
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. Lower like like to one side. Put

1856
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:21,960
Speaker 1: it just put it right, Steve like mouth that was,

1857
01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:26,760
Speaker 1: I'll start to hallucinate. Me and Stanley Johnson. We're back

1858
01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:28,880
Speaker 1: in fifth grade on the playground. Man, I was gonna

1859
01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:30,920
Speaker 1: have a while. I was hallucination. Just put it right

1860
01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:35,960
Speaker 1: to scar the side, right on your canine. My grandpa

1861
01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:38,400
Speaker 1: always called it wormed or like growing up as a shirtman,

1862
01:44:39,080 --> 01:44:44,720
Speaker 1: some coming. It's super fine. That was impossible that I

1863
01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:48,000
Speaker 1: got buzz that quick. Yeah, yeah, I swear I got

1864
01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:50,120
Speaker 1: a buzz. So we we got the same amount of nicktaine.

1865
01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:51,840
Speaker 1: It's in like coping. I he grizzly and this stuff

1866
01:44:52,600 --> 01:44:54,400
Speaker 1: you had killer vanniller. Do you like the flavor? Though?

1867
01:44:54,720 --> 01:44:57,000
Speaker 1: I love nice cream. I chewed up and eat it.

1868
01:44:57,360 --> 01:45:00,920
Speaker 1: Look good, looks No, this is a little kind of

1869
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:07,240
Speaker 1: blue the whole day. And I should I should spit

1870
01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:09,479
Speaker 1: off in so I don't. Yeah, I mean like when

1871
01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:11,439
Speaker 1: you when you start to feel it, juice up. That's

1872
01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:14,040
Speaker 1: just spit it right and in the job. So it's

1873
01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:18,400
Speaker 1: not tobacco. No, it's not tobacco. What is this? This

1874
01:45:18,600 --> 01:45:21,040
Speaker 1: is our is our own blends. So a lot of

1875
01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:26,760
Speaker 1: other companies that are do uh alternatives. They use mint leaf,

1876
01:45:27,160 --> 01:45:30,080
Speaker 1: which is very similar, but mint leaf, if you flavor

1877
01:45:30,240 --> 01:45:32,240
Speaker 1: ment leaf, it just still tastes like mint. So they'll

1878
01:45:32,280 --> 01:45:34,960
Speaker 1: come out with like a bourbon mint leaf, but it's

1879
01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:36,719
Speaker 1: still just tastes like mint, and you don't want bourbon

1880
01:45:36,760 --> 01:45:39,920
Speaker 1: and mint mixed together. Some companies will use corn silk,

1881
01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:42,600
Speaker 1: which no flavor really gets into that. Yeah, it's just

1882
01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:45,920
Speaker 1: it's it's not they kind of just sit on the

1883
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:48,680
Speaker 1: shelves in the gas station. Nobody really likes them, you know.

1884
01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:53,360
Speaker 1: And so we we used uh we basically sourced the

1885
01:45:53,439 --> 01:45:57,479
Speaker 1: world for years on trying to find the best leaf

1886
01:45:57,560 --> 01:46:00,800
Speaker 1: and we found a tea leaf that we love and

1887
01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:05,400
Speaker 1: um and that we are process of making. This is

1888
01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:10,640
Speaker 1: more we basically do more than tobacco companies will do

1889
01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:13,280
Speaker 1: with their dip with this. And like if you'll notice

1890
01:46:13,320 --> 01:46:15,000
Speaker 1: our dip, like when you have it in, it's it's

1891
01:46:15,040 --> 01:46:17,760
Speaker 1: got more robust flavor than a lot of tobaccos because

1892
01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:20,559
Speaker 1: you don't the tobacco is almost a little bitter when

1893
01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:23,400
Speaker 1: it comes to a dip, and so ours, like for instance,

1894
01:46:23,439 --> 01:46:25,720
Speaker 1: this root beer, we got one called Rambling root beer.

1895
01:46:25,760 --> 01:46:28,600
Speaker 1: I mean that thing just tastes like straight up like

1896
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:33,960
Speaker 1: barks root beer, mug root beer. Um, so yeah, it's

1897
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:37,200
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's doing really well. But the biggest thing

1898
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:38,560
Speaker 1: is we just wanted to put something out there that

1899
01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:43,400
Speaker 1: didn't suck, because every tobacco alternative I ever tried was horrible.

1900
01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:46,200
Speaker 1: It was just like it made you. I mean, it

1901
01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:48,560
Speaker 1: probably helped you quit because you just didn't want to

1902
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:50,240
Speaker 1: do it anymore, or you would just go right back

1903
01:46:50,280 --> 01:46:53,240
Speaker 1: to dipping grizzly or copening. So I ought until Dirt's

1904
01:46:53,320 --> 01:46:58,960
Speaker 1: quit and plan. Oh yeah, I went to South America

1905
01:46:59,040 --> 01:47:01,439
Speaker 1: with a bad kind he it like, and chewed the

1906
01:47:01,479 --> 01:47:03,400
Speaker 1: ship out of it. Well. His plan was since he

1907
01:47:03,439 --> 01:47:06,920
Speaker 1: didn't like it, he wouldn't burn through it, and once

1908
01:47:07,080 --> 01:47:09,880
Speaker 1: it was gone, he was gonna come back to America

1909
01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:14,200
Speaker 1: and never dip again. But he said he got back

1910
01:47:14,240 --> 01:47:16,800
Speaker 1: to America and went into a gas station first thing,

1911
01:47:17,439 --> 01:47:23,439
Speaker 1: and he said the tins were actually speaking to him. Yeah,

1912
01:47:23,680 --> 01:47:27,120
Speaker 1: I said, he said, they're they're calling to him. Yeah,

1913
01:47:27,240 --> 01:47:30,519
Speaker 1: so you're bad. Tobacco was grizzly Wittner Green? Yeah, I

1914
01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:33,400
Speaker 1: think it was. I can't remember, but yeah, that and

1915
01:47:33,479 --> 01:47:35,479
Speaker 1: it didn't. I didn't chew that much on that trip

1916
01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:38,080
Speaker 1: because I didn't have much. That's when I got back

1917
01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:40,320
Speaker 1: to the States, I was looking for it and Taylor,

1918
01:47:40,360 --> 01:47:44,840
Speaker 1: what do you like the grizzly winter green couches? Dirt,

1919
01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:47,960
Speaker 1: what's your old man like? Oh he's grizzly, So I said,

1920
01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:51,559
Speaker 1: Dirt's old man likes grizzly. And I said to Dirt, um,

1921
01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:55,639
Speaker 1: you don't choose grizzly. No, here, here, here's Dirt's quote.

1922
01:47:56,040 --> 01:47:58,880
Speaker 1: Dirt said, no, I got a good job. They called

1923
01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:02,720
Speaker 1: it a welfare bearyer, the welfare bearers what they used

1924
01:48:02,720 --> 01:48:04,400
Speaker 1: to go all of it. Now it's a lot better

1925
01:48:04,439 --> 01:48:05,840
Speaker 1: because back in the day, Grizzly used to be the

1926
01:48:05,920 --> 01:48:08,679
Speaker 1: cheap one, and now Grizzlies just as good as copening.

1927
01:48:09,439 --> 01:48:12,000
Speaker 1: Grizzly was trying to get onto Kodiak's group, right because

1928
01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:14,439
Speaker 1: Kodiak like Kodiak Bear and they're like, oh, we'll does

1929
01:48:14,520 --> 01:48:17,800
Speaker 1: go with the Kodiak had the stronger nicotine, didn't the

1930
01:48:17,880 --> 01:48:21,160
Speaker 1: long cut or what was the Kayak not Kyla. That's

1931
01:48:21,160 --> 01:48:24,599
Speaker 1: where I started. They had certain winter grain like a Kodiak.

1932
01:48:24,640 --> 01:48:26,720
Speaker 1: I remember working at a plastic plant and it was

1933
01:48:26,760 --> 01:48:29,040
Speaker 1: like a little bit stronger than a normal like Gusli

1934
01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:32,880
Speaker 1: or the Kodiak is they use a better tobacco. It's

1935
01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:36,360
Speaker 1: more premium tobacco than than what other companies used. The

1936
01:48:36,439 --> 01:48:38,080
Speaker 1: only reason I switched to the Grizzly, I like the

1937
01:48:38,160 --> 01:48:40,679
Speaker 1: Copenhagen was because they made to meet a better pouch

1938
01:48:40,840 --> 01:48:44,240
Speaker 1: than um. Grizzly made a better pouch than the Copenhagen

1939
01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:46,640
Speaker 1: was like a little white little cloth. But I mean

1940
01:48:47,240 --> 01:48:51,519
Speaker 1: personal preference there's something to Jerry you're saying about like

1941
01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:55,000
Speaker 1: the sweet the snooze is do you leave a like

1942
01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:59,680
Speaker 1: the generals? I have leave a weird aftertaste bitterness. Yeah, Um,

1943
01:49:00,040 --> 01:49:02,599
Speaker 1: I got one of my good buddies from way back logger.

1944
01:49:03,800 --> 01:49:05,840
Speaker 1: We all cheered Copenhagen in college and stuff, and then

1945
01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:09,760
Speaker 1: um he quit a big deal and I hadn't seen

1946
01:49:09,840 --> 01:49:17,519
Speaker 1: him for like five years, and who was krim got

1947
01:49:17,560 --> 01:49:22,439
Speaker 1: that front. I'm trying to like feel what's going on

1948
01:49:22,720 --> 01:49:25,799
Speaker 1: right now. If you're feeling the buzz, i'd recommend spitting

1949
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:28,600
Speaker 1: it out already. I don't know if I felt a

1950
01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:31,080
Speaker 1: buzz or if I have if I was like having

1951
01:49:31,200 --> 01:49:37,439
Speaker 1: an adrenaline rush out of my fear he gave you

1952
01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:40,599
Speaker 1: the placebo dip. I'd like to know if that was true,

1953
01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:43,320
Speaker 1: because I could have had just a rush of like

1954
01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:48,560
Speaker 1: whatever childhood memories. I was a real deal. But so

1955
01:49:48,680 --> 01:49:52,000
Speaker 1: this is gonna puke this buddy for us. I'm still okay,

1956
01:49:52,400 --> 01:49:55,519
Speaker 1: but it's coming out. So I see I see him this,

1957
01:49:55,680 --> 01:49:57,840
Speaker 1: I see him a couple of months ago. Well I'm back.

1958
01:49:58,120 --> 01:50:00,479
Speaker 1: I got I got mixed up. So he quit, Like

1959
01:50:00,560 --> 01:50:03,400
Speaker 1: how you got kind of a camouflage Hawaiian shirt. This

1960
01:50:03,760 --> 01:50:06,600
Speaker 1: this is you know they got smoker's jackets. This is

1961
01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:10,360
Speaker 1: my dipping shirt. Yeah today I work. It's like a

1962
01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:13,920
Speaker 1: camel Hawaiian shirt. That's a great shirt. Breeze real well too.

1963
01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:17,960
Speaker 1: But um so Forest haven't seen him forever. We go

1964
01:50:18,120 --> 01:50:21,120
Speaker 1: have a beer somewhere and pulls out one of that

1965
01:50:21,439 --> 01:50:26,080
Speaker 1: one of your tins wanted. Oh really yeah, interested in

1966
01:50:26,120 --> 01:50:27,720
Speaker 1: the outlaw can. I hadn't seen it before. And this

1967
01:50:27,840 --> 01:50:29,920
Speaker 1: was before I knew we were going to be doing this.

1968
01:50:30,600 --> 01:50:32,679
Speaker 1: And he's like, yeah, I quit and I tried getting

1969
01:50:32,720 --> 01:50:36,680
Speaker 1: on generals but they tasted like like cap piss after

1970
01:50:36,720 --> 01:50:40,719
Speaker 1: a while. And now he's junior, he's hooked on your outlaw.

1971
01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:43,040
Speaker 1: So I mean it's and he's the type of dude

1972
01:50:43,040 --> 01:50:46,400
Speaker 1: who needs to chew like he's got six kids, gowns

1973
01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:50,080
Speaker 1: the log and company, like you gotta give yourself a

1974
01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:52,640
Speaker 1: break every once. So you feel that if someone has

1975
01:50:52,720 --> 01:50:57,679
Speaker 1: six children and owns a log, like they're just gonna

1976
01:50:57,760 --> 01:51:01,240
Speaker 1: have to chew. Well, I'm saying like nicotine is one

1977
01:51:01,280 --> 01:51:03,439
Speaker 1: of those one of those things in life, like it's

1978
01:51:03,439 --> 01:51:07,000
Speaker 1: a little reward. I think that says it's having a

1979
01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:08,880
Speaker 1: piece of cake in your pocket and when you run out,

1980
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:11,280
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of like that person he's like,

1981
01:51:11,320 --> 01:51:13,720
Speaker 1: hey man, you got any cake? You know, Yeah, that's

1982
01:51:13,720 --> 01:51:18,080
Speaker 1: a personal thing. I could relate to the um. I

1983
01:51:18,160 --> 01:51:21,040
Speaker 1: can relate because I used to have where I used

1984
01:51:21,040 --> 01:51:22,559
Speaker 1: to drink way too much. Like I used to get

1985
01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:25,360
Speaker 1: a lot of alcohol, but a lot of alcohol. If

1986
01:51:25,400 --> 01:51:28,559
Speaker 1: I wasn't out in the woods, I couldn't no way,

1987
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:34,519
Speaker 1: Like I couldn't be home um and not drink. But

1988
01:51:34,560 --> 01:51:36,639
Speaker 1: if I was in the mountains, no desire to drink.

1989
01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:39,880
Speaker 1: But if I was home, I would get just a

1990
01:51:40,200 --> 01:51:43,600
Speaker 1: terrible thirst. And it wasn't until I had kids that

1991
01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:46,640
Speaker 1: I was able to stop drinking. Not stop, but like

1992
01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:50,120
Speaker 1: mostly stopped basically now like I only drinking out. It

1993
01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:53,559
Speaker 1: was like whatever, I'll just have a drink. Headaches right well.

1994
01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:56,759
Speaker 1: And I got where I started to feel guilty about

1995
01:51:56,800 --> 01:52:00,599
Speaker 1: being hungover, and I felt like my kids didn't ask

1996
01:52:00,680 --> 01:52:03,880
Speaker 1: to be born. But they wake up in the morning

1997
01:52:04,520 --> 01:52:07,200
Speaker 1: ready to go, and you have a hangover. It's like

1998
01:52:07,280 --> 01:52:09,360
Speaker 1: it's not their problem that they're there in awake in

1999
01:52:09,400 --> 01:52:11,680
Speaker 1: your house like you had them, so as then want

2000
01:52:11,680 --> 01:52:14,880
Speaker 1: to be like annoyed by them and have a hangover,

2001
01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:19,160
Speaker 1: but you you had that reward system before your kids,

2002
01:52:19,640 --> 01:52:22,840
Speaker 1: equivalent to like yeah, man, at night, like if I

2003
01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:26,760
Speaker 1: was writing or doing work and I got done, um,

2004
01:52:27,200 --> 01:52:32,400
Speaker 1: that was like the immediately finish up by am bor stiffy.

2005
01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:34,519
Speaker 1: Did you have anything in your process of writing that

2006
01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:39,800
Speaker 1: you did like a fix? Was you just clean headed? No? No, no, no, totally.

2007
01:52:40,120 --> 01:52:42,960
Speaker 1: All that stuff is alive. Man. But when we were studying,

2008
01:52:43,240 --> 01:52:45,560
Speaker 1: when I was like learning to be a writer and

2009
01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:48,560
Speaker 1: went to graduate school and everything with a lot of

2010
01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:51,479
Speaker 1: kids that want to be writers, we all looked up to.

2011
01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:53,639
Speaker 1: We all thought that the cool writers were the ones

2012
01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:57,479
Speaker 1: that supposy like we're like that, you know, like everybody

2013
01:52:57,520 --> 01:53:01,080
Speaker 1: has image of like the drunk you know Arles Bokowski. Yeah,

2014
01:53:01,200 --> 01:53:04,559
Speaker 1: like you're all wasted three in the morning. No man,

2015
01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:09,080
Speaker 1: ten am Monday morning, that's when you write. Like, uh No,

2016
01:53:09,280 --> 01:53:11,880
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I came to think that that was

2017
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:15,920
Speaker 1: a total lie. I think that's that's maybe one out

2018
01:53:15,960 --> 01:53:17,840
Speaker 1: of a hundred. That's the way him in a way

2019
01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:20,439
Speaker 1: he didn't. I mean in the afternoons he would drink. Yeah,

2020
01:53:20,479 --> 01:53:22,280
Speaker 1: one out of a hundred writers, like I don't when

2021
01:53:22,400 --> 01:53:24,320
Speaker 1: people talk about like writing drunk, I just don't, like,

2022
01:53:24,360 --> 01:53:25,800
Speaker 1: I don't think that that's I don't I don't. I

2023
01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:27,880
Speaker 1: don't think that that's really a thing. Alcohol does not

2024
01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:30,920
Speaker 1: help my writing or my stage because you think stupid

2025
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:34,479
Speaker 1: ship's funny exactly. But then Taylor, you quote you quoted

2026
01:53:34,520 --> 01:53:37,439
Speaker 1: Einstein to yeah, chew and chew, and yeah, what I

2027
01:53:38,000 --> 01:53:40,840
Speaker 1: so Einstein he thought of his greatest ideas well in

2028
01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:43,880
Speaker 1: the process of the motion of chewing. So he might

2029
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:46,000
Speaker 1: not have been chewing tobacco, but he's probably chewing gum

2030
01:53:46,400 --> 01:53:48,240
Speaker 1: or something like that. And there's some kind of like

2031
01:53:48,880 --> 01:53:51,439
Speaker 1: firing mechanism of the process of chewing. So when I'm

2032
01:53:51,479 --> 01:53:53,400
Speaker 1: writing a song or something, it's like I have a

2033
01:53:53,479 --> 01:53:55,479
Speaker 1: dip in or this or that. But I mean some

2034
01:53:55,640 --> 01:53:59,360
Speaker 1: of his greatest ideas he was chewing something, which is interesting,

2035
01:53:59,520 --> 01:54:02,640
Speaker 1: you know funny My kids leverage that because when I

2036
01:54:02,720 --> 01:54:05,280
Speaker 1: was a little boy, uh back when we're eating that

2037
01:54:05,360 --> 01:54:09,120
Speaker 1: tobacco and whatnot, you couldn't have gum in school and

2038
01:54:09,120 --> 01:54:12,400
Speaker 1: you could wear a hat and uh now you can

2039
01:54:12,479 --> 01:54:17,040
Speaker 1: choot gum. Wow. Yeah, my kid, My wife just bought

2040
01:54:17,080 --> 01:54:19,519
Speaker 1: my kid a big old sack of some kind of

2041
01:54:19,560 --> 01:54:22,080
Speaker 1: like little lifesaver type things. He's going to bring down.

2042
01:54:22,160 --> 01:54:24,160
Speaker 1: He says he needs it for doing his math test.

2043
01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:32,960
Speaker 1: He man the son get good grades, making proud. Second,

2044
01:54:35,920 --> 01:54:39,680
Speaker 1: I had a my anthropology teacher in college, and Missoula

2045
01:54:40,280 --> 01:54:43,240
Speaker 1: would tell us if you're a smoker before a test.

2046
01:54:44,120 --> 01:54:47,040
Speaker 1: He encouraged people to go smoke a cigarette before they

2047
01:54:47,080 --> 01:54:50,760
Speaker 1: took the test. For some reason, he had some anthropological

2048
01:54:51,360 --> 01:54:54,480
Speaker 1: stimul Yeah, he had something dictaine. I mean, they've done

2049
01:54:54,480 --> 01:54:56,640
Speaker 1: studies on a word. It's you know, it's just like

2050
01:54:56,760 --> 01:55:00,720
Speaker 1: caffeine and stimulates brands. It stimulates you kind of. Even

2051
01:55:00,760 --> 01:55:02,760
Speaker 1: in Silicon Valley and stuff. People that are there, like

2052
01:55:02,840 --> 01:55:05,440
Speaker 1: New Tropics, they'll use nicotine, you know, like the little

2053
01:55:05,560 --> 01:55:08,920
Speaker 1: zins or like a nicotine tablet as a stimulant, you

2054
01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:11,600
Speaker 1: know what. But to me, it doesn't stimulate. I mean

2055
01:55:11,680 --> 01:55:14,240
Speaker 1: maybe after doing it too much, it doesn't. Your tolerance

2056
01:55:14,320 --> 01:55:16,400
Speaker 1: is probably real high. You still have that ammonium thing

2057
01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:19,920
Speaker 1: and just now took it out. But yeah, that's good.

2058
01:55:21,520 --> 01:55:24,080
Speaker 1: You got a buzz, I mean, pretty better than the grizzly.

2059
01:55:24,160 --> 01:55:27,320
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, uh okay, so we're still gonna get what

2060
01:55:27,480 --> 01:55:30,400
Speaker 1: you when you canna do for us whatever you like. No,

2061
01:55:30,560 --> 01:55:33,320
Speaker 1: you had one in mine. He's hell's that now? But

2062
01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:35,600
Speaker 1: I don't know a's where as your guitar right there behind?

2063
01:55:36,200 --> 01:55:39,120
Speaker 1: Oh ship? Can I pick it up? What was the same?

2064
01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:42,440
Speaker 1: Put the put the mic to the forget it? Well, no,

2065
01:55:42,440 --> 01:55:44,000
Speaker 1: I don't know how to play anything. No, no, but

2066
01:55:44,040 --> 01:55:52,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna try. When I play a guitargo a you

2067
01:55:52,280 --> 01:55:55,080
Speaker 1: gotta start somewhere. But you're a writer, so why don't

2068
01:55:55,080 --> 01:55:57,680
Speaker 1: you play that in a company? Something that comes to mind,

2069
01:55:57,840 --> 01:56:00,240
Speaker 1: this is you're doing? Because all my saw long as

2070
01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:04,720
Speaker 1: I think over like, um, well, my kids, so anytime

2071
01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:06,400
Speaker 1: I wear a button up shirt with collars on it,

2072
01:56:07,200 --> 01:56:09,440
Speaker 1: my kids like, why do you look so fancy? Just

2073
01:56:09,560 --> 01:56:12,880
Speaker 1: so fancy? So I wrote a song about myself called

2074
01:56:12,920 --> 01:56:18,320
Speaker 1: big Dog? How did you get so fancy? Come on?

2075
01:56:19,600 --> 01:56:22,200
Speaker 1: Come on playing? You get so fancy? You know it's

2076
01:56:22,200 --> 01:56:25,320
Speaker 1: a big dog. How did you get so fancy? A

2077
01:56:25,440 --> 01:56:30,240
Speaker 1: little coming around the mountain? Which comes but Jared walked

2078
01:56:30,280 --> 01:56:33,560
Speaker 1: me through. How so how did you go from like

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01:56:33,680 --> 01:56:40,960
Speaker 1: um you YouTuber YouTuber to um tobacco magnate hopefully cover

2080
01:56:41,080 --> 01:56:44,640
Speaker 1: a dip aficionado saying that's funny. I did not know that.

2081
01:56:45,080 --> 01:56:47,520
Speaker 1: Um well, I just I mean I did so much

2082
01:56:47,560 --> 01:56:50,520
Speaker 1: stuff on dip, and I feel like I've basically learned

2083
01:56:50,640 --> 01:56:53,600
Speaker 1: more than anyone out there on on the process of

2084
01:56:53,680 --> 01:56:56,280
Speaker 1: this and actually making something good. So then we ended

2085
01:56:56,360 --> 01:57:00,720
Speaker 1: up starting out long became pretty much the big uh

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01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:05,800
Speaker 1: tobacco free dip out there. So so he's a tobacco

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01:57:05,960 --> 01:57:09,880
Speaker 1: free magnet. Yeah to bad. Yeah, tobacco free magnet. Yeah. Now,

2088
01:57:10,040 --> 01:57:11,560
Speaker 1: but I mean, I don't get me wrong, I still

2089
01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:14,960
Speaker 1: love tobacco. What's your favorite personal favorite out of anything?

2090
01:57:15,040 --> 01:57:17,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure you like out of your blends

2091
01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:19,760
Speaker 1: even maybe like a winter Green or like my favorite

2092
01:57:19,800 --> 01:57:22,080
Speaker 1: out of this one is I love the Sweet Tea

2093
01:57:22,400 --> 01:57:26,680
Speaker 1: because I like the is one real and got tobacco. Yeah,

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01:57:27,600 --> 01:57:29,840
Speaker 1: I got their question for you. Yeah, explain your new

2095
01:57:29,920 --> 01:57:33,840
Speaker 1: album Fishing Songs. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm a I'm

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01:57:33,880 --> 01:57:37,560
Speaker 1: a musician as well. The only thing I know how

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01:57:37,600 --> 01:57:40,800
Speaker 1: to play the G string. I reckon. That's all you did. Yeah,

2098
01:57:41,280 --> 01:57:46,040
Speaker 1: so I got enough to get you in trouble. But yeah,

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01:57:46,160 --> 01:57:48,200
Speaker 1: so I got an album. Well by the time this

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01:57:48,360 --> 01:57:50,240
Speaker 1: is out at the drop, but like you've seeing it

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01:57:50,320 --> 01:57:53,000
Speaker 1: on Instagram, you're Fishing Songs. Yeah. Yeah, so we we

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01:57:53,400 --> 01:57:55,520
Speaker 1: did it like a little EP called Fishing Songs. That.

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01:57:55,720 --> 01:57:59,240
Speaker 1: Um it's just I got hunting songs coming out in November,

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01:58:00,840 --> 01:58:04,080
Speaker 1: and uh so, yeah, I've been I've always been doing

2105
01:58:04,160 --> 01:58:07,480
Speaker 1: like comedy music, just writing stuff. I just enjoyed a

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01:58:07,560 --> 01:58:11,320
Speaker 1: lot just writing stuff. And um so I had this

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01:58:11,480 --> 01:58:13,560
Speaker 1: idea of like, man, I just like all these people

2108
01:58:13,600 --> 01:58:15,480
Speaker 1: that follow me, they love fishing and hunting, so might

2109
01:58:15,520 --> 01:58:17,000
Speaker 1: as well write songs about it. I just feel like

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01:58:17,000 --> 01:58:20,520
Speaker 1: there's not enough good fishing songs out there. So there

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01:58:20,600 --> 01:58:23,640
Speaker 1: really is not a lot of fishing songs. No, and

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01:58:23,720 --> 01:58:26,240
Speaker 1: if they are, they're very like manufactured by Nashville. And

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01:58:27,000 --> 01:58:28,320
Speaker 1: you know, I shouldn't say there's not a lot of

2114
01:58:28,360 --> 01:58:30,200
Speaker 1: fishing songs. There's not a lot of fishing songs that

2115
01:58:30,200 --> 01:58:35,320
Speaker 1: have made their way into the sort of in the

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01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:40,640
Speaker 1: dark nyably fishing whistle jump ran, Yeah, but that's not

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01:58:40,720 --> 01:58:43,440
Speaker 1: a fishing yea. There's this guy in the Wisconsin named

2118
01:58:43,480 --> 01:58:47,800
Speaker 1: spid Peeper. I don't know if he's playing. He's got

2119
01:58:47,960 --> 01:58:52,160
Speaker 1: some great fishing songs like I'm Gonna strap the canoe

2120
01:58:52,360 --> 01:58:56,200
Speaker 1: to Mini Van, I got my Cooman stole and a

2121
01:58:56,360 --> 01:59:01,280
Speaker 1: portable can the whole fishing song. That was a beautiful

2122
01:59:01,360 --> 01:59:06,800
Speaker 1: voice right there, Country boy can servive it's got a

2123
01:59:06,840 --> 01:59:09,240
Speaker 1: fishing line. And what's funny, you couldn't It was illegal

2124
01:59:09,280 --> 01:59:10,960
Speaker 1: in Michigan. You couldn't use a set line or a

2125
01:59:11,000 --> 01:59:13,440
Speaker 1: trot line in Michigan, so people didn't know what it was.

2126
01:59:14,120 --> 01:59:17,960
Speaker 1: But we had a trout and uh, I want to

2127
01:59:18,000 --> 01:59:21,200
Speaker 1: be hell billies. When I was a kid, they thought

2128
01:59:21,240 --> 01:59:24,400
Speaker 1: he said, um, we can skin a buck, we can

2129
01:59:24,520 --> 01:59:27,080
Speaker 1: run a trout line, because they didn't know what a

2130
01:59:27,120 --> 01:59:29,800
Speaker 1: trot line was, or they thought he was saying we

2131
01:59:29,880 --> 01:59:32,240
Speaker 1: can skin a buck, we can run a trap line,

2132
01:59:33,640 --> 01:59:36,840
Speaker 1: not knowing that he's actually saying we can skin a buck,

2133
01:59:37,360 --> 01:59:40,800
Speaker 1: we can run a trot line. Country boy Cancer Vive.

2134
01:59:41,000 --> 01:59:43,080
Speaker 1: I'll just play a little bit of this now, which

2135
01:59:44,240 --> 01:59:50,680
Speaker 1: let's see you got catfish fever, tree pounder. We've always

2136
01:59:51,000 --> 01:59:55,000
Speaker 1: ridge pounds, kiss my bass? K which one? Which one

2137
01:59:55,040 --> 01:59:57,920
Speaker 1: should I play? Play? You play tree pounder if you

2138
01:59:58,960 --> 02:00:13,960
Speaker 1: that's like limb lining it basically, Yuh, call my buddies

2139
02:00:14,000 --> 02:00:16,200
Speaker 1: and tell them to meet at first light. We're going

2140
02:00:16,360 --> 02:00:18,880
Speaker 1: fishing in the morning. It just feels right, man, that

2141
02:00:19,000 --> 02:00:21,360
Speaker 1: boat looking real nice. Can't wait to have a fight

2142
02:00:21,480 --> 02:00:24,280
Speaker 1: on the deck where I'm keeping that line tight. All

2143
02:00:24,360 --> 02:00:27,280
Speaker 1: my buddies, No I want to go pro. They always

2144
02:00:27,320 --> 02:00:29,720
Speaker 1: laugh and say, yeah, good luck, bro. It's kicking me

2145
02:00:29,840 --> 02:00:31,720
Speaker 1: y off, and I'm so sick at their scarfs. I'm

2146
02:00:31,760 --> 02:00:34,160
Speaker 1: catching fat girls gave me, but they keep breaking off.

2147
02:00:34,720 --> 02:00:37,000
Speaker 1: Once a cart officient was the size of a stark,

2148
02:00:37,480 --> 02:00:40,240
Speaker 1: had a brown color like a no rusty truck. No

2149
02:00:40,400 --> 02:00:43,280
Speaker 1: one believes me. It looks are deceived and you probably

2150
02:00:43,320 --> 02:00:52,760
Speaker 1: caught a tree. Why aren't you perceiving treat like a

2151
02:00:55,400 --> 02:00:58,000
Speaker 1: suree pounder? Baby walk out one of those. Dude, that's

2152
02:00:58,040 --> 02:01:01,560
Speaker 1: great man. Yeah, so we have to like two musicians here.

2153
02:01:02,400 --> 02:01:04,080
Speaker 1: Do you just feel like a competitive streak right now

2154
02:01:04,120 --> 02:01:09,520
Speaker 1: between two of you very similar material? It's the different

2155
02:01:10,040 --> 02:01:14,520
Speaker 1: different guys like like like like the fish and here

2156
02:01:14,560 --> 02:01:17,840
Speaker 1: you are there. It's a songwriter too. Oh yeah, well

2157
02:01:18,000 --> 02:01:21,200
Speaker 1: so's uh little Chester is like a fake songwriter. So

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02:01:21,400 --> 02:01:23,600
Speaker 1: let me tell the funny story about Chester. He didn't

2159
02:01:23,600 --> 02:01:31,880
Speaker 1: do any wrong. Chester got married and he serenaded his

2160
02:01:31,960 --> 02:01:34,080
Speaker 1: wife at his wedding with a song, and somehow it

2161
02:01:34,120 --> 02:01:38,160
Speaker 1: generated some confusion among the attendees and people came away

2162
02:01:38,240 --> 02:01:41,440
Speaker 1: thinking that Chester had written the song. Am I correct?

2163
02:01:42,520 --> 02:01:46,760
Speaker 1: That's correct? Who had actually written the song? Tyler? So

2164
02:01:46,840 --> 02:01:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm hearing all about Chester's new song. I'm like, I

2165
02:01:49,000 --> 02:01:51,760
Speaker 1: don't think so. But he didn't do anything to propagate

2166
02:01:51,800 --> 02:01:56,560
Speaker 1: the lie. He learned to listen to this kid learned

2167
02:01:56,640 --> 02:02:00,840
Speaker 1: to play here hand its guitar to Chester. Chester learned

2168
02:02:00,880 --> 02:02:05,560
Speaker 1: to play just in order to serenade his wife. Now

2169
02:02:05,680 --> 02:02:09,080
Speaker 1: that's a much more. That's a cute love story. Did

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Speaker 1: you like a pick? Chester? Is this standard? Pull the

2171
02:02:13,240 --> 02:02:18,680
Speaker 1: micro over by Chester? Chester sings like a bird? Uh? Oh, boy,

2172
02:02:19,560 --> 02:02:22,920
Speaker 1: just do a quick advertisement right there, do a quickly Chester.

2173
02:02:24,680 --> 02:02:26,520
Speaker 1: He learned to do this in order to sing a

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Speaker 1: song to his wife at his wedding. And that cute

2175
02:02:28,200 --> 02:02:38,240
Speaker 1: that's a romantic makes me want to date Chester. I

2176
02:02:38,280 --> 02:02:40,560
Speaker 1: always can't play when I'm in front of people, but

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02:02:40,720 --> 02:02:41,960
Speaker 1: you know, well, how did you play in front of

2178
02:02:41,960 --> 02:02:53,000
Speaker 1: your wife at the wedding? It's a cowboy and new

2179
02:02:53,200 --> 02:02:56,760
Speaker 1: h in South Texas. Oh this good one. His face

2180
02:02:57,000 --> 02:03:02,960
Speaker 1: was burned deep by the sun. Part history, part sage,

2181
02:03:03,560 --> 02:03:11,400
Speaker 1: part mesquite. It's there when poncho Via was young. Tell

2182
02:03:11,480 --> 02:03:16,440
Speaker 1: you a tale of the old days when the country

2183
02:03:16,920 --> 02:03:22,880
Speaker 1: was wild all around. See it under the stars of

2184
02:03:23,000 --> 02:03:30,120
Speaker 1: the Milky Way. Listen to the Kind Hotel and theo

2185
02:03:30,360 --> 02:03:39,880
Speaker 1: boo boo boo boo yao boo hoo you pooh boo

2186
02:03:40,400 --> 02:03:46,920
Speaker 1: you boo you poo bullo yao boo hoo you poo.

2187
02:03:49,160 --> 02:03:57,560
Speaker 1: Ladies and estor listen. So I wrote a song about

2188
02:03:57,760 --> 02:04:00,880
Speaker 1: Chester singing that song and goes it goes who yep

2189
02:04:00,960 --> 02:04:08,760
Speaker 1: poo yep Chester that He's like Chester sings who you poo?

2190
02:04:10,360 --> 02:04:14,160
Speaker 1: It goes Chester, something like that. I've heard some other versions,

2191
02:04:14,240 --> 02:04:21,040
Speaker 1: probably Jester goes who uh god man plays packed and

2192
02:04:21,080 --> 02:04:26,480
Speaker 1: in Dirt's got songs? Yep, yep, tell one of the

2193
02:04:26,560 --> 02:04:33,520
Speaker 1: names your songs, dirt, Oh, hobo song, Hobo song. That's

2194
02:04:33,520 --> 02:04:37,160
Speaker 1: a funny story. But another time you're telling an our

2195
02:04:37,280 --> 02:04:40,480
Speaker 1: time you bring your own instrument in yepkay, you can

2196
02:04:40,520 --> 02:04:43,880
Speaker 1: pass it over man, room full of talent now, oh

2197
02:04:44,040 --> 02:04:47,320
Speaker 1: real quick for you do your diddy joint. That's what

2198
02:04:47,400 --> 02:04:53,000
Speaker 1: they call it nowadays, jazz cigarette. No, not that, like

2199
02:04:53,480 --> 02:04:56,440
Speaker 1: don't like in rap you call song a joint. You

2200
02:04:56,480 --> 02:05:05,280
Speaker 1: didn't know this, yeah, like the joint? How do people

2201
02:05:05,320 --> 02:05:09,320
Speaker 1: go find you? Jared? I know where I find you? Where?

2202
02:05:09,480 --> 02:05:11,240
Speaker 1: Where can we can you find me? I find you?

2203
02:05:11,440 --> 02:05:14,879
Speaker 1: Jared Outlaw on Instagram? Oh yeah, yeah yeah on Instagram,

2204
02:05:15,000 --> 02:05:17,680
Speaker 1: Jared Outlaw on YouTube, tell where to find you on

2205
02:05:17,800 --> 02:05:21,080
Speaker 1: the YouTube, it's Outlaw, and then Outlaw out Doors. It's

2206
02:05:21,080 --> 02:05:22,920
Speaker 1: just YouTube dot com slash out Law, and then YouTube

2207
02:05:22,960 --> 02:05:25,360
Speaker 1: dot com slash out lot of doors. And then if

2208
02:05:25,400 --> 02:05:28,760
Speaker 1: you guys want some dip, outlawed deep dot com at

2209
02:05:28,960 --> 02:05:31,360
Speaker 1: it and you got a video where I like one

2210
02:05:31,400 --> 02:05:33,920
Speaker 1: where you walked everybody through your boot closet. Oh yeah,

2211
02:05:34,040 --> 02:05:36,680
Speaker 1: yeah yeah Outlaw merch dot com. If you want some

2212
02:05:36,760 --> 02:05:40,280
Speaker 1: outlaw boots, I got some roots you got down right now?

2213
02:05:40,320 --> 02:05:42,800
Speaker 1: Peel one of those off, Yeah, those are those are Outlaw.

2214
02:05:43,280 --> 02:05:46,760
Speaker 1: Get me some. Remember what I said about Remember I

2215
02:05:46,840 --> 02:05:48,600
Speaker 1: said about cowboy hats, dude, But I don't know if

2216
02:05:48,640 --> 02:05:52,920
Speaker 1: that extends the boot. Backwards Badass was my first song,

2217
02:05:53,240 --> 02:05:57,520
Speaker 1: Backwards Badass. Remember when that came out? That Yeah, did

2218
02:05:57,520 --> 02:05:59,120
Speaker 1: you got can you send me a set of these? Yeah?

2219
02:05:59,400 --> 02:06:01,480
Speaker 1: I got on, I got work boots, I got so

2220
02:06:01,600 --> 02:06:05,320
Speaker 1: you got comes crocks and those boots from Jasen. I

2221
02:06:05,360 --> 02:06:07,560
Speaker 1: want to square toe. Yeah, now dirt, if you saw

2222
02:06:07,640 --> 02:06:09,960
Speaker 1: me come strutting in the office these now you beat

2223
02:06:10,000 --> 02:06:14,640
Speaker 1: my ass? No, he rocked that in your tracks in

2224
02:06:14,720 --> 02:06:17,240
Speaker 1: your track pants? Yeah, long wear, I can wear my

2225
02:06:17,480 --> 02:06:19,880
Speaker 1: track pants. My neighbor calls me coach when he sees

2226
02:06:19,920 --> 02:06:22,320
Speaker 1: me in those pants. I'm gonna wear track pants and

2227
02:06:22,320 --> 02:06:24,880
Speaker 1: these boots, dude, No, no, you're tinkering ones that you

2228
02:06:24,960 --> 02:06:27,080
Speaker 1: and Jimmy have the song I wear that, yeah, my

2229
02:06:27,320 --> 02:06:30,160
Speaker 1: little thing. Yeah. The more the older I get, like

2230
02:06:30,200 --> 02:06:32,080
Speaker 1: if if I'm out about the more I tried it

2231
02:06:32,400 --> 02:06:34,280
Speaker 1: embarrassing my wife. But the more I try to look

2232
02:06:34,520 --> 02:06:39,960
Speaker 1: like a junkyard dog. My wife always trying to look nicer.

2233
02:06:40,000 --> 02:06:42,440
Speaker 1: I always trying to look worse. Have you have you

2234
02:06:42,560 --> 02:06:46,400
Speaker 1: rocked that? Uh the Hawaii look? You had the wet suit,

2235
02:06:47,200 --> 02:06:50,480
Speaker 1: in that wet suit, I do go out there in

2236
02:06:50,520 --> 02:06:55,320
Speaker 1: wet suit pants. No feel no compulsion to in any

2237
02:06:55,360 --> 02:06:58,200
Speaker 1: way look good. It's just like whatever that is is gone.

2238
02:06:58,880 --> 02:07:00,720
Speaker 1: It's like thirteen years of it does it to you.

2239
02:07:00,800 --> 02:07:03,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just like it's just gone. But

2240
02:07:03,040 --> 02:07:06,320
Speaker 1: I will wear these boots in my track pants. So yeah, yeah,

2241
02:07:06,600 --> 02:07:11,280
Speaker 1: now here's the deal though, um wid yeah, well these

2242
02:07:11,320 --> 02:07:13,600
Speaker 1: are d's. We have a wide and a work boot

2243
02:07:13,800 --> 02:07:15,920
Speaker 1: has a steel toe. No, I don't want that. I

2244
02:07:16,000 --> 02:07:18,600
Speaker 1: want square toll. Yeah it's still square toes, but I

2245
02:07:18,680 --> 02:07:20,880
Speaker 1: want to stay back. Was badass on it. I'll get

2246
02:07:20,920 --> 02:07:26,200
Speaker 1: you a wide what's what size are you, Levin? I

2247
02:07:26,320 --> 02:07:28,840
Speaker 1: got you. So that's how people find you. And but

2248
02:07:28,960 --> 02:07:31,560
Speaker 1: so you you run all. So the spatuns are on

2249
02:07:31,600 --> 02:07:33,840
Speaker 1: their own website. Yeah, that's mud Jug. That's that's not

2250
02:07:33,960 --> 02:07:36,760
Speaker 1: my company. That's it's not yours. It's a buddy's company.

2251
02:07:36,760 --> 02:07:40,840
Speaker 1: I used to Yeah, and so um so spatoons are. Yeah,

2252
02:07:40,920 --> 02:07:43,200
Speaker 1: you can get those at mud juke dot com. And

2253
02:07:43,280 --> 02:07:45,440
Speaker 1: we send a lot of mud jukes to the military too.

2254
02:07:45,480 --> 02:07:47,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, if you guys go over there, you can

2255
02:07:47,400 --> 02:07:49,560
Speaker 1: you have a you get a free mud jug basically

2256
02:07:49,640 --> 02:07:52,280
Speaker 1: with your purchase, so you can either get it or

2257
02:07:52,440 --> 02:07:54,560
Speaker 1: donated to the military so they don't get their army

2258
02:07:54,600 --> 02:07:57,480
Speaker 1: tanks and fighter jets all full of dip step exactly.

2259
02:07:58,360 --> 02:08:02,480
Speaker 1: Keeps keeps the military clean, keeps the terry clean, exactly. Okay, Taylor,

2260
02:08:02,600 --> 02:08:06,440
Speaker 1: you ready? Okay? Now, Taylor, would you ever do you

2261
02:08:06,440 --> 02:08:09,120
Speaker 1: think you're gonna have Chaster're open for you sometime we're

2262
02:08:09,120 --> 02:08:15,280
Speaker 1: playing Thursday? Not we gotta go out of time for work. Uh.

2263
02:08:16,240 --> 02:08:18,680
Speaker 1: I think that I really feel like, um, I'm not

2264
02:08:18,760 --> 02:08:20,440
Speaker 1: just saying this. Here's the way to put it where

2265
02:08:20,440 --> 02:08:22,520
Speaker 1: it won't just seem like because because because I like you,

2266
02:08:22,600 --> 02:08:30,240
Speaker 1: we're friends. It's a phenomenal album. Here's my proof. My wife,

2267
02:08:30,760 --> 02:08:35,400
Speaker 1: I can tell you something about her, feels zero obligation

2268
02:08:35,520 --> 02:08:39,800
Speaker 1: to you. What's that mean? Like we're friends, you've been

2269
02:08:39,800 --> 02:08:41,720
Speaker 1: on the show. She's not like, oh, that's cute, I'll

2270
02:08:41,720 --> 02:08:44,920
Speaker 1: go see him. She knows the album. We play in

2271
02:08:44,960 --> 02:08:49,240
Speaker 1: our camper all the time. And when she and she

2272
02:08:50,120 --> 02:08:53,440
Speaker 1: somehow independent of me, she didn't realize you're on the

2273
02:08:53,480 --> 02:08:56,760
Speaker 1: show right now. Well, this is a while ago. She

2274
02:08:56,920 --> 02:08:59,120
Speaker 1: knew that. She was like, can you call him to

2275
02:08:59,240 --> 02:09:01,480
Speaker 1: get me ticket? It's because he's I said, well, hey,

2276
02:09:01,480 --> 02:09:05,200
Speaker 1: he's in town, he's on the podcast. She wanted tickets

2277
02:09:05,440 --> 02:09:09,120
Speaker 1: to go see you. Wow, that's awesome. And hadn't even

2278
02:09:09,160 --> 02:09:10,840
Speaker 1: and this is before she even like put it all.

2279
02:09:10,960 --> 02:09:13,040
Speaker 1: She hadn't like assembled all the pieces in her head.

2280
02:09:14,120 --> 02:09:15,920
Speaker 1: She likes it. That's good, and she's not gonna go

2281
02:09:15,960 --> 02:09:19,560
Speaker 1: do something she doesn't want to do totally. Now. The

2282
02:09:19,600 --> 02:09:22,400
Speaker 1: cool thing about like music to me, it's like good

2283
02:09:22,480 --> 02:09:24,800
Speaker 1: songs like you show them to children or old people

2284
02:09:24,840 --> 02:09:27,720
Speaker 1: with old people and children like them. Usually that forces

2285
02:09:27,800 --> 02:09:29,960
Speaker 1: people in their middle ages to like stuff and it's

2286
02:09:30,000 --> 02:09:32,680
Speaker 1: like that's a good litmus test of like, I don't know,

2287
02:09:33,360 --> 02:09:36,160
Speaker 1: for some reason, children like my scary songs. You know,

2288
02:09:37,160 --> 02:09:41,840
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting. But get this guy. Yeah, I showed

2289
02:09:42,160 --> 02:09:44,080
Speaker 1: a few of my buddies some of your music. Man,

2290
02:09:44,600 --> 02:09:47,160
Speaker 1: everyone loves it. Oh, I think you should be. I

2291
02:09:47,200 --> 02:09:49,160
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't want like, I'm not wishing fame

2292
02:09:49,240 --> 02:09:51,480
Speaker 1: on you, like fame in and of itself as a value.

2293
02:09:52,200 --> 02:09:54,920
Speaker 1: But I do think that I hope people find out

2294
02:09:55,280 --> 02:09:57,760
Speaker 1: and and like, I hope more people find out for sure,

2295
02:09:57,920 --> 02:10:01,040
Speaker 1: for sure, they sure will. It's ain't quitting anytime soon.

2296
02:10:01,120 --> 02:10:03,240
Speaker 1: I got people that come up after shows like, please

2297
02:10:03,280 --> 02:10:05,000
Speaker 1: don't stop doing this. It's like, what else would I

2298
02:10:05,040 --> 02:10:07,520
Speaker 1: be doing? You know what I mean? A lot to quit?

2299
02:10:12,400 --> 02:10:16,440
Speaker 1: Mm hmm it's the song is called Hell's half Acre.

2300
02:10:25,320 --> 02:10:57,480
Speaker 1: H h Hell's half facre. It's a deep docle. You

2301
02:10:57,640 --> 02:11:08,240
Speaker 1: can't do nothing save my soul. Camp I forgiven when

2302
02:11:08,320 --> 02:11:15,880
Speaker 1: I fool what I've done, The thing left to so

2303
02:11:16,160 --> 02:11:21,880
Speaker 1: un wrong. So what's turned on the gas and strike

2304
02:11:22,040 --> 02:11:25,880
Speaker 1: up a match, Jump in the car and drive away

2305
02:11:26,080 --> 02:11:32,800
Speaker 1: fast leaven nothing but fire on the black top, food,

2306
02:11:33,200 --> 02:11:38,440
Speaker 1: blue white smoke, grassing in my review, got the hounds

2307
02:11:38,560 --> 02:11:42,040
Speaker 1: on my hues. You're blooding my track. And once you

2308
02:11:42,160 --> 02:12:00,840
Speaker 1: go to hell, boy can come back. Get the Easianna

2309
02:12:02,760 --> 02:12:10,360
Speaker 1: founding over bye, so stout the hammer roll and these

2310
02:12:10,440 --> 02:12:17,960
Speaker 1: all blue. I'm gonna shave my face. I'm gonna ditch

2311
02:12:18,120 --> 02:12:29,200
Speaker 1: my copper, down my sleeves, cover of desco close. My

2312
02:12:29,520 --> 02:12:33,320
Speaker 1: eyes are still in the scream on every night while

2313
02:12:34,160 --> 02:12:40,960
Speaker 1: store even, nothing but the fire on the black top,

2314
02:12:41,880 --> 02:12:47,240
Speaker 1: blue white smoke rising in myria. Got the hounds on

2315
02:12:47,440 --> 02:12:51,000
Speaker 1: my hues. You're putting my truth and what you or

2316
02:12:51,080 --> 02:13:09,680
Speaker 1: the game come back? She'll go st in my cousin

2317
02:13:11,400 --> 02:13:16,440
Speaker 1: the skillets of my whoa. The girl wants to hot

2318
02:13:19,440 --> 02:13:26,640
Speaker 1: lund in. But I can ride out with hopping of

2319
02:13:26,800 --> 02:13:34,120
Speaker 1: free train ye through the end of the line. Never

2320
02:13:34,320 --> 02:13:40,000
Speaker 1: be the thing close. My eyes are still here, the

2321
02:13:40,120 --> 02:13:46,720
Speaker 1: stream on every noight or out of still to leave

2322
02:13:47,000 --> 02:13:50,800
Speaker 1: nothing but the fire on the black top, the blue

2323
02:13:51,560 --> 02:13:56,800
Speaker 1: white smoke rising in myrio. Got the hounds on my eels,

2324
02:13:56,920 --> 02:14:01,200
Speaker 1: Your blood of my track. Whatt you go to bollgain

2325
02:14:35,320 --> 02:14:42,520
Speaker 1: right to supper hold than you have a set with

2326
02:14:42,560 --> 02:15:00,280
Speaker 1: this drink nice wet your whistle would my juice s