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Speaker 1: it's gossip. I'm shook, it's memoir, it's martinis. Clebrit Book

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Speaker 1: Club can read it while it's hot. Celebrity Book Club,

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Speaker 1: tell your secrets. We won't talk celebrity books. No boys

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Speaker 1: book Club. Buzzman. I brought the queer foe. Hey best friend,

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Speaker 1: Hey girl, you stupid bitch who has survived so much.

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy to see you. Okay, sorry, Hi Henney Lina,

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Speaker 1: you are my absolute inspiration, Yanna. Everything you do is

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Speaker 1: It's about Lonic Morquina and the two thousand Olympics in Sydney,

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Speaker 1: like you fucking ray and I'm obsessed to Tanya Stratova,

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Speaker 1: you look amazing what you're serving like Wolf of Walls Street,

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Speaker 1: like Glamorosia, like not just like was at the library,

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Speaker 1: but the library like hello, closed the doors turn it

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Speaker 1: into a fab hotel, like giving me hotelier Ian Schrager realness,

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Speaker 1: out of jail and ready to start a new Wait, Sis,

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Speaker 1: those glasses are giving me vision. Your ass can see? Um. Hey, hey,

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Speaker 1: best gay friend in the whole wide world hunting, you're

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Speaker 1: say fagotory? I'm sorry, I'm just like getting a fag

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Speaker 1: except we already are. Oops. Oops, Okay. Some people say

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Speaker 1: that I share too much. Sorry, honey, that's just me,

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Speaker 1: and I'm okay with that. And I'm owning my realness

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Speaker 1: because it's fucking story time, that's right. And don't clutch

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Speaker 1: your pearls, Linda, because we're gonna get real today. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So the reason that we're having an aneurysm right now

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Speaker 1: and talking to totally LGBTQ speak because an absolutely and

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Speaker 1: soon gay book some of us listen to it. Also,

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Speaker 1: how much realness was being served in your EarPods, bitch, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: audiologists slay away because my ears are full of fabtrociousness.

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Speaker 1: It was giving you a fabolucious audiobook, mom, And that's

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Speaker 1: so cute for you. It was we listened, read, prayed

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Speaker 1: at the altar of none other one of the most

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Speaker 1: important gay icons of our generation, of the world, of

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Speaker 1: the world of the new fab five groomer extraordin there

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Speaker 1: Miss Jonathan and his book, her book, her book, over

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Speaker 1: the top, my story. It's so funny. How many when

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Speaker 1: you go to our here's the look behind the curtain,

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Speaker 1: when you go to our little Google sheet of books. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how many of the books are just called my story?

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Speaker 1: Is my story, my pages, my book, my book, my story,

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Speaker 1: our story, a story of me. It's mostly my story,

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Speaker 1: mostly my story. Um book is also called my story. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so we're going to be doing too my stories. Like like, no,

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Speaker 1: we get what the concept of a memoirs. It's your story.

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Speaker 1: Think everybody gets that. But this book was also serving

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Speaker 1: as a guideline for every little LGBT youth, whether you're

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Speaker 1: just a little faggot in Missouri or if you're a

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Speaker 1: is the blueprint for how to survive in a world

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Speaker 1: that wants to tap a honey, you're gonna rise up,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get yours, you're gonna follow your dreams. You're

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Speaker 1: and some of it may not be good, and some

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Speaker 1: It's giving you book, okay the way, Like, let's just

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Speaker 1: to talk about the fact that he did write this

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Speaker 1: book so consistently in his insane, fagged voice. Well, listening

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Speaker 1: by Harper Audio, because at the end his acknowledgments, he's

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Speaker 1: girls at Harper Audio for serving audio realness, and like

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Speaker 1: they keep talking about the Glendale Embassy Sweet Honey, and

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00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 1: they were serving audition realness for the Queer Eye, Okay,

423
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 1: and then obviously he was like, oh, and girl, when

424
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 1: I saw Karamo that bigel hot cup of mocha, I

425
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: wanted to dive right and I'm sorry. My vagina melted

426
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: and fell on the floor. And then he told me

427
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: I had a boyfriend. So I picked my vagina back

428
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: up and stuffed it back in. Honey, I didn't. Thus, Yeah,

429
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,479
Speaker 1: I was laughing during this book. I was laughing. I'm

430
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: also laughing. I just feel like he is very Okay,

431
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: here's what okay, let me just say this. Let I

432
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: just say this. He is incredibly observant, Like he's extremely accurate,

433
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: I think with so much of his like esthetic cultural

434
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 1: descriptions of people, like when he talks about how Scottsdale

435
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 1: everyone is straight and fake rich and like, oh wait,

436
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: and then when he also said, um at Minneapolis or

437
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: was it scotts Still and he was like, I was

438
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 1: doing color, but he was like, didn't matter what I did,

439
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,479
Speaker 1: every woman came out looking like Killy Clarkson. And then

440
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: when he's in La, he's like, and they wanted they

441
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: thought that layers meant Lisarenna, and there was no way

442
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 1: to do layers that worked Lina, and then he gives

443
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,719
Speaker 1: and then he makes his L word Shane reference, Yes,

444
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: and he's like I wanted to give a shag that

445
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 1: was like more L word, but like they only wanted Lisarenna. Okay,

446
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: I want to get to that part, but let me

447
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: just like in a broader point about his ability to

448
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: describe something currently, scott Stale was a capital of fake blond's,

449
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 1: fake boobs and twenty thousand dollars millionaires who were driving

450
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: whatever the equivalent of a tesla was in two thousand

451
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: and six. We're actually completely upside down and their mortgage

452
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 1: and lesslie in debt, and I'm just like, wow, accurate

453
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: drag Scottsdale to Hell and back. That's so true. And Scottsdale, Yeah,

454
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 1: we're gonna be coming at you live sometime this year. Okay,

455
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: but that's like so like my aunt who was like

456
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: obsessed with like fish sculptures. No where, it's like more debt,

457
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 1: more debt, more debt, big car car payment, more cruises,

458
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 1: like taking in an eighth mortgage. And then when he

459
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: talks about himself, he was like, I couldn't believe that

460
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: serge like me even though I was a hippie vegan

461
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: top not yogi, because at that point he is just

462
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 1: being this like la messi yogi, and I'm like, so

463
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: you know that you are so vegan hippie top Yeah,

464
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: he knows he's trader Joe's top not, and like it's

465
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: cute because he like tells Serge He's like, just so

466
00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: you know, like I wear like such a like American earl,

467
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: like tights and shorts and may people'll get into this

468
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 1: and what does she wear? But I do feel like

469
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: it's this weird thing with his like personal style where

470
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: I'm just like he's so accurate at like taking down

471
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: everyone else and style, I knowing exactly what they look

472
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: like in things, and that's kind of like then I'm

473
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: like you and then like and then you know that

474
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 1: you're wearing like this leotard that's like giving you such

475
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 1: a spare tire, and you're being like and yes, honey,

476
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: and like I guess he like likes that and just

477
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: like this hippie girl away. Yeah, And that's I guess,

478
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 1: And that is his beautiful truth, is that he's like,

479
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm messy top not yogi, and I will like walking

480
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: were in yes, queen, not a stay to the bast

481
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: not a stay in classmal because I love yoga when

482
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: like he's dragged Sergey to Saint Louis. Okay, also not

483
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: Saint Louis having a bathhouse. I know we need to

484
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: do Yeah, we need to perform at like Bette Midler style,

485
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: like the Saint Louis. I think every city has a bathroom.

486
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: Work doesn't have a bathhouse. In the country doesn't have

487
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: a bath house. Chicago has a bath house, steam Works

488
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: has steamworks. I maybe Saint Louis has like a steamwork.

489
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 1: Students like such a change. Well, but maybe because New

490
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: York is so like just everything is so gay. Yeah,

491
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: there is so like Juliani and like cabaret laws, and

492
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: it's like I'm sure where they're just like, well, we

493
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: need to be like having so many dj and I

494
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: had so many bathouses and seventies and they all go

495
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 1: close down and now all they have Guiani, my friend Giuliani.

496
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 1: There's just men's hours at the Russian baths and that's

497
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: just tuesdays for our listeners. What is that Tuesday? Thursday

498
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: is twelve to five and Sunday seven am to two pm.

499
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: Not that I know, honey, Oh it's seven am to noon. Yeah,

500
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 1: so if you're at seven am like, honey, it's you're okay,

501
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: it's Colas. They're coming back from the club at seven am,

502
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,479
Speaker 1: wandering in and like half people are math and then

503
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: the other half people are hostads. I think twenty five

504
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: are acidic guys on math, but I was like, okay

505
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: not and then the Saint Louis move it's so tragic

506
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: and he's just like, and honey, things are about to

507
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: get mega got uber trads for me. And then he

508
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: shares which was so me, this like essay he wrote

509
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: about Bill Clinton and Monica. He says, before I go

510
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: to Saint Louis, because it's literally a full year of

511
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: me being like such an insane horring during so much think, ah,

512
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: let me show you my Bill Clinton Monica Winskey book report.

513
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: Literally you Yeah, He's like, let's just take a break.

514
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: Kenny's um. And then it's like the book report is

515
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: him like asking twenty kids in Quincy, Illinois, like if

516
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton should resign, and they're all like like what

517
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: he did was wrong and he should like think about

518
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: his actions. Yeah, it was very it was very prude. Yeah,

519
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: Young Republican Club. Actually doesn't it start out? And the

520
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: thing like I've always been a conservative Democrat or something.

521
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: The book in sixth grade the idea of being like

522
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: eleven and being like, I've always been a conservative Democrat.

523
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: But that was so kids at my small private elementary school,

524
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: Like I remember we had like election, no, we all

525
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: ran a country, and it was like what people were in,

526
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: like fighting for, like what people were into. And I

527
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: remember like I was on the side of like talking

528
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: about the human rights violations, and everyone was like, why

529
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: do we need human rights? And I was like, what's

530
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: wrong with you guys? Where do you live? Where do

531
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: you live? Like human rights are is so important? So

532
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: you're always like debate club kind of yeah, okay, and

533
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: you're like humanity is this and if we don't have

534
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: human rights, then what do we have? Nothing? Henny Um.

535
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: He goes to Saint Louis and after he's gone to

536
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: sex we have like so many times and then he

537
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: gets back together with Sergey and convinced Star getting move

538
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: to Saint Louis with him, so we're gonna be closer

539
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: to his stepdad who's dying of in Quins, Illinois. It

540
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,719
Speaker 1: would be like also is so random where He's like, well,

541
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: let me move to the city. So I'm not like

542
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: so close to my family, but it's kind of close.

543
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: Moved to the city. Yeah yeah, Okay, So he does

544
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: contract HIV during one of these Saint Louis and the

545
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: s period and I have to say, you know, I mean, okay,

546
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: this part of the book he was being obviously so

547
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: like Hillary Clinton and press release and like explaining like

548
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: what drugs are. I feel like he explained it very

549
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: well and very well. It was moving to hear. It's

550
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: also just like so many people are still so confused

551
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: about like what undetectable is and like what a viral

552
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: load is. Okay, and miss Vaness just kind of laid

553
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: it out in a few pages. Well, And you know,

554
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: it's funny because it relates back to this part earlier

555
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: in the book where he someone says him at HB

556
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: at a family dinner where he's like seven, and he

557
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: starts crying and runs out of the room a family dinner.

558
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: Oh that happens. But also once when he's at like

559
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: Twitchelana Statovia Salon this heads like Styla's yells at him,

560
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: I hope you get AIDS and die. Oh yeah, so

561
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: you know it's a fear. Yeah, but the thing He's like,

562
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: that is literally and I'm sure you've known this, but

563
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: it's like that is every gay man's fear. It still

564
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: is to this day, every game, that's biggest fear. And

565
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: you know, I've been on for many years and you know,

566
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: and I've actually never talked of him, HIV said is publicly,

567
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: but um please I'll say it, um. I I am negative.

568
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: But it's like for many years, even even being on PREP,

569
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: I'm still like every time I go to the doctor,

570
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: I'm always like nervous that I'm going to be like,

571
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: oh my god, it was the one day I got

572
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: to toxicloat or something. And it's just like there's still

573
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: so much stigma around it. But Jonathan Vanes he's breaking

574
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: it and he's like an all emit. Like like when

575
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,959
Speaker 1: I was like twenty, like a guy came over and

576
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: then he said he was paused, and I was like, no,

577
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: I'm not going to sleep with you, and it was like,

578
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: you know, I was like definitely a lot more worried

579
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: about seeing when guys who were pause back in my

580
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: early twenties as well, and you know, and I've I've

581
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: moved beyond that and now I do sleep with guys

582
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: who are a pause, which I'm so proud of you,

583
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: thank you. But it's just like that's a journey that

584
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: everyone has to go on, and like the undetectable thing is,

585
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: it's just like, you know, people are still not totally

586
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: knowing or understanding what it means. They make it confusing though. Yeah,

587
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: but of course now the weird thing is, it's just

588
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: like all being indectable really means they have to take

589
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: a pill for the rest of your life, but being

590
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: on prep means you have to take a boat for

591
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: the rest of your life. You're gonna take a boa

592
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: for the rest of your life, you know, where every

593
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: Medicaid society pills pills, pills, pills, pills. But I thought

594
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: that whole part was beautiful, and I also thought the

595
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: part was like I was glad. He also called out

596
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: the like when he first gets diagnosed, they do this

597
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: thing where they make you signs of paper acknowledging that.

598
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: It's like that was crazy your goal to sleep with

599
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: someone without without telling them, which I think is so

600
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: insane and archaic, and like there are multiple cases like

601
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: every year, and that's country in the legal system where

602
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: like people go to jail for giving people HIV and like, yes,

603
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure there are some evil people who like are

604
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: like doing that intentionally, like infecting people because like there

605
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: could be whatever, but it's like that can just happen.

606
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: It's called like having sex, and it's just like if

607
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: you're having sex with someone, like you should know the

608
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: resks and like protect yourself or whatever. And Jonathan Vaness

609
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: says that he was like a girl no matter how

610
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: awkward it was, like I did tell all my future

611
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: sexual partner. But it's just like I don't think that

612
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: you should be like, yes, I think you should tell people,

613
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: but it's like I don't think it should be an

614
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: insane law that you go to jail. No, that's insane.

615
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: That's insane. That's literally insane. That is homophobia. It's it's homophobia.

616
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: And I just feel like Jonathan five is helping to

617
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: taphobia Tan's book, which was like wildly misogynistic and just

618
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: like women are all fat and like they need to

619
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: be like locked in houses and slim dark jeans that

620
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: flatter their bodies and I'm to be locked in my

621
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: like seventeen room like empty Utah mansion with my husband.

622
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: But Jonathan, I feel like it's like, this is what

623
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: HIV is and just like it's fun. Well, Tan has

624
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: also like never had sex with anyone, So Jonathan is like,

625
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: because honestly, I'm sorry, but Jonathan is like the vast

626
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: majority of gay men who are in some hors and

627
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: are having sex like twenty four seven, right, He's just

628
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: so like so yeah, Like my cat was staring at

629
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: me being like, girl, are you really gonna take like

630
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: another balloon? Like are you really? Are you really douching

631
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: for the fifth dick of the day right now? Can

632
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: you feed me instead? Can you give me one cat

633
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: instead of So he has this amazing cat, Bug, Yeah,

634
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: who passes And then do you remember this this was

635
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: towards the end. This is not in the book. This

636
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: is just real life, Okay. He adopted after Bug died,

637
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: he adopted two more kittens and named the one that

638
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: looks like his last cat, Bug two. And while he

639
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: was sleeping, the kitten just jumped out of a window

640
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: and died like a week after he adopted it. What. Yeah,

641
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: And he made this post just being like I'm shottered

642
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: right now, Kenny, I'm giving you full depresso moments right now. Yeah,

643
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to meet in bed with I don't know

644
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: Trader Jones. For the next two weeks, this kitten who

645
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: was serving ghost like also died. She was serving suicide. Wait,

646
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: that is so sad and random. Let me aftern with

647
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: the hair. I actually have to praise this book. It

648
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: almost reminded me of the way that Andrea Gassi talks

649
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 1: about tennis. I was actually kind of learning about hair

650
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: and as I Alwish felt like I was on the

651
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: salon floor. Yes, so when he gets like basically his

652
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,479
Speaker 1: big gigs assistant at this La studio, and the main

653
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 1: haircut he has to give is like such an asymmetrical

654
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: like Lisa Na like Sidebob Michaal preferred shags like Lisa

655
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: in his hair that looked like you've been electrocuted, really big,

656
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: really piecy, really textured. That's not my esthetic, even if

657
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 1: it was the salons esthetic. So I was just trying

658
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: to create a shag shape that wouldn't make the client

659
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: want to yelp my ass into oblivion, not a voluminous

660
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: Lisa in a shag, A flatter, more l word shag.

661
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: Natasha checked the haircut and said it was perfect, but

662
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: when Michael checked it, he said even though it's technically perfect,

663
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: they couldn't check me off because it was too flat

664
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: on the top, so it was like they wanted it

665
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: sticking up on the top and having like such Kate

666
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: Goslin like all over volume, which is so insane. You know,

667
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: the haircuts that they were having him give sounded so crazy,

668
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: but I love this is also insane. This part, he

669
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: goes at that point, I only knew how to use

670
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 1: metal brushes as opposed to bristle brushes, which he was using.

671
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: When I finished the back of her hair, he looked

672
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: at it. I asked you to make this straight, he said,

673
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: Igor I'm sorry, I said, I don't know how to

674
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: do it with a bore bristle brush. No, faggot, I

675
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: want you to get it straight with the brush I

676
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: asked you to use, he said, Leaning into my ear,

677
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 1: he took the brush out of my hand and threw

678
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: it to the floor. I hope you die of aids,

679
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: he said, get away from me. That is insane, insane,

680
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: And she was like, you know, the guy was so

681
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: metrosexual and like the craziest jeans that were like so distressed,

682
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: like vertical striped shirt like unbuttoned to hear like so

683
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: many chains this other haircut. One week we were learning

684
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: a rock and roll shag technique inspired by Ashley Simpson

685
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: chin length face framing but then collarbone in the back

686
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: like a long fashioning mullet with lots of face framing

687
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: to make it really whispy. I mean, and also likely

688
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: he says fashioning mullet because you know exactly what he

689
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: means when he that. Yeah. So that's what makes me

690
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: think that this book isn't just for midwestern Lindez because

691
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: it is for gays and he is talking about hair. No,

692
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: absolutely gays are reading this. I just meant more, it's

693
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: I think like young gays are maybe getting the most

694
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: out of this. Oh, like gays who are learning yea

695
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: in high school. Yeah, and you're like reading about hair

696
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: and like reading about grinder. I mean when he is

697
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: fucking that guy in the backseat of the car and

698
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: the driveway of his house when he's sixteen, and the

699
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: stepdad is just like boys, time to go inside. Fuck,

700
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: Like that's what I think. It's time for Jonathan to

701
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: come inside, and he's like, girl, he was entirely inside

702
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 1: of me. I'm like a having sex in the backseat

703
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: of like your parents cart just in the driveway, like

704
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: that's not even pulled over. But see, then they also

705
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: made me feel a little bit bitter and jealous and

706
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: like I was like, actually, I don't have sympathy for

707
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: you because it's so many hookups in high school, right,

708
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: and it's like, what the fuck you're supposed to live

709
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: in the small town and be so bull You're literally

710
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: having sex in high school. And again like that other boyfriend,

711
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: like you guys were still sleeping the same bed. I'm like, no,

712
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: I was never jacking off in bed with anyone. No,

713
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: or like taking someone fully in the volvo. Yeah, I've

714
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: never been taken in, to be quite honest, still to

715
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: this day, you haven't been taken in a volvo. Check

716
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: your privilege. Jonathan Bess with her newspaper Fortune. Um. I

717
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: do ultimately feel that he this book reeks of Elizabeth

718
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: Warren Hanney. Okay, yes, but less than I thought Elizabeth

719
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: Warren in this way where it'll be like he'll be

720
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: like and I think everyone can live their true life

721
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: because marijuana has disproportionally put black man in prisons, and

722
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: you're like absolutely random, like political statements come in I think,

723
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 1: but I thought it was gonna be like so much

724
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: more of that and the last Dick appointment, Yes, I

725
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: thought it would be more. I agree, And that's what

726
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: was so refreshion about. Wasn't so much of that. But

727
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: he is just he's just such a warrengay. Yeah, in

728
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: the way that he's just like so because he's so

729
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: like Bernie, we need to clean up your sides and

730
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: get some carotene on that scaley, And while we're at it, Okay,

731
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: no one's gonna go for your little leftist bro ideas

732
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: we need a fierce lady in the way he's so

733
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: just like, I'm sorry, she can run the country and

734
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: wear a kidney heal. Also because he is like, sorry,

735
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: it's so warrengay to be like x math is it

736
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: because she's so like from Oklahoma. It's honey, we need

737
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: to recognize the meth problem. We're going to be like condos,

738
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 1: small TV, far away from your like extremely white couch.

739
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: His methodiction also, I was so like it was a

740
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: little hard to track where he's being like, this is

741
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: what started my methoddiction. I watched a guy pull out

742
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 1: a math pipe. Well, but this so it always happens

743
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: because it's like you have a hook up where someone

744
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 1: is doing meth and then that guy like blue meth

745
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: in his face and then he went back to certainly.

746
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I'm so sorry. I've

747
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: been cheating on you, like and then he goes sex

748
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: addiction or whatever, and then it's like the next time

749
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: he encounters meth with a hook up, it's like, then

750
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: he just does but that was funny. And then when

751
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: he does do meth and he like comes back with

752
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: this like other yoga teachers that they're hooking about it

753
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: and he was like, girl, I had one shoe on. Yeah.

754
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: He was like, and you think that's normal? And I

755
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: was still wanting more. When we're just driving through with

756
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 1: Hollywood and sees like some old hookup and the hookup

757
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: just gets in the car and then he's like, three

758
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: days later, I have one shoe and no shirt. Hey Girlnez.

759
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: This week in the vip Lounge, we're talking about you

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Speaker 1: guts it Fashion Week, all the events, all the restaurants,

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Speaker 1: We're bringing it down for you, and we're leaving no

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00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: extra episode every single week. Wait, did you know that

767
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: the Dinper Hotel, which I did not go to their party,

768
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Speaker 1: that they n nine Orchard. They have a market price

769
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Speaker 1: Martini insane. That's the carry of all carries. And the

770
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: market price is because they're choosing whatever vodka. It's like,

771
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,479
Speaker 1: what market the price of vodka is not fluctuating well

772
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: with Ukraine? Honey, it's tried to slay the house down

773
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: segment Boots, How does she girl? What does she okay? Wait,

774
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 1: slay to the diet of the Boots Trader Joeena Trader

775
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: just a four top okay, but also like talk about

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Speaker 1: what's that other La Mexican place? Taco del Taco, So

777
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: del taco. He's so um. Yeah. When I get at

778
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: the plane, I immediately go to Baha blast because this

779
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: ass is gonna blast. I don't know. Everyone pretends to

780
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: love in La Yeah. I feel like he's so I

781
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: don't out with my girl yeah style because honey, shoot

782
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: is over when he's just like and yeah, and I

783
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: did go read skinny bitch, and I went vegant as

784
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: part of a eight disorder for two years and honey,

785
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: I'm off that train. And then I read the stortule

786
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: about him gaining seventy pounds after his stepdad died. He's

787
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: like yeah. And then I made my sister like stop

788
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: for a sheetcake and then girl like my brother made gualks.

789
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: So he's just yeah, it is very like I mean

790
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: in this is the part where it is a little

791
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: bit like did Red Vocal Book. In this way where

792
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: if you live in the middle of nowhere in Illinois,

793
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: it's you're just gonna be a digit de fast food constantly. Wow,

794
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: I mean that's the landscape or good homemade meals. He

795
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: never loved. No. Mom was working all night, so he

796
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 1: was so saaly pop was necessarily popped. Rights like, he

797
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: never references like a cooked meal. Wait no, So this

798
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: is what I wanted to bring up, like or like

799
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: going to restaurants every He's just fast food and like

800
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: and like snack food people. He talks about inquiry, doesn't

801
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: talk about tan. He talked about how's vagina mental karma?

802
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: And he goes and Anthony, honey, like everything he made

803
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: my mouth drop to the floor, and like he is

804
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 1: like really like promoing how like good of a cook

805
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: Anthony is, and it's just like no one has ever known.

806
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: But I do ultimately like he actually is the prime

807
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: audience for Anthony because Anthony is like giving him the

808
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: capesto pasta and he gets like, what girl, Henny out

809
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 1: Maribitali hoops, no, take me to Italy. Now, Anthony's cooking

810
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: is for people who have only ever had Trader Joe

811
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: salmon pockets. And then they're just like, wait a minute, sist,

812
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: this salad is giving me vegetable garden realness. I'm literally

813
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: in Tuscananda Crunch, crunch, eat love. It's just like this

814
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 1: is the first time you've had something that's like has

815
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: all a whale right. It's just like three lines about

816
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 1: how Anthony is like the best cook in the entire world,

817
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: and then he doesn't. He says to him and Bobby

818
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 1: are sisters. Well, yeah, that would say he mentions Bobby

819
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: literally nothing about Tan. Yeah obviously, well Tannis. I mean

820
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: he does mention that Tan is like really uptight. I

821
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: feel like there's that doesn't actually say that, but he's

822
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: like Tan is more conservative or something, and he does

823
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: also like admit that obviously, it's like Bobby does the

824
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: most work because he was like well and then like

825
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: when the show started filming, and like Bobby was already

826
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: there because he had like more stuff to do as

827
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: we are as we all though, so so yeah, he's

828
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: eating fast food and Trader Jason. But I think now

829
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 1: probably Anthony, I feel like he's probably getting when before shooting,

830
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: don't you think he's getting like weird meals sent to

831
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: him that are so but he's still just getting like

832
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: a sweet green salad he's getting. Yeah, I'm taking. I

833
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: think he's like now being like, oh girl, I need

834
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 1: to choose the kale realness. But he's but he just

835
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: wants things that are prepackaged Graham, I'm just saying it's

836
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 1: healthier prepackaged stuff now, yes, although he also still thinks

837
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: that like Trader Joe's like oatmeal treats like are so

838
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: healthy because they have like so much like Stevia in them. Okay,

839
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: what does she wear? Okay, what does she wear? I

840
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: mean just like calftan half tans, long jersey tops like Calcers.

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Speaker 1: His thing now is just being like as you mentioned earlier,

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Speaker 1: he's just like dry us well a dress, but also

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Speaker 1: be like I am I'm comfortable being vegan hippie green

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Speaker 1: vegan hippie girl, like wearing this sweatsuit and like, no,

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Speaker 1: it's not flattering, and like he would tell someone else that,

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Speaker 1: like what he's wearing is not flat, but wouldn't he

847
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Speaker 1: also be doing their hair being like oh, girl says

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Speaker 1: like be comfortable. Comfiness is realness. Yeah, something give me

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Speaker 1: that comfy moment, like did me that fuzzy wuzzy slipper

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Speaker 1: and Netflix and chilly Yanna moment comfort me system. I

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00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: feel like now she's being much more like weird one

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Speaker 1: piece dress in her day them era and being a

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Speaker 1: little more like Grecian Okay's sidebar. I feel like he

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Speaker 1: literally in a very dimulivada way like officially went them

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Speaker 1: and then officially pulled it back. Maybe, And I feel

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Speaker 1: like maybe there's partmers like and the binary and crazy girl,

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00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: like honey, the binary has me fucked up, because like

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Speaker 1: sometimes I'm like serving total like Tom Hanks realness. It's

859
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: just like it's like, girl, you've been serving bottom and

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00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: you continue to serve bottom and y'all will never not stop.

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00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 1: I'm like yes, I love my beard. I'm like, I'm

862
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Speaker 1: not shaving, which I feel like is her theyvemness of

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00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: just like well yeah being just like I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: very Susan Alexandra outfit, which we'll talk about when I

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Speaker 1: perform stand up at the Comedy Cellar for a fashion week.

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Speaker 1: Where does she live? Okay? Since the kids die? I

867
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Speaker 1: think she lives in like a massive high rise in

868
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Speaker 1: the West Village. OKAYI bad? You think she lives in

869
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Speaker 1: New York. I think she like has an apartment in

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Speaker 1: New York. Honey, I think he lives in Los Angela.

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Speaker 1: They all live in Los Angeles, what except for Tan

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00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: who lives in Utah? Right and Karamo He's literally the

873
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: most fast food driving in his car, like blasting eight

874
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: podcasts and like I think they're okay Twain and share

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Speaker 1: out of like six different speakers will like so many

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Speaker 1: assistance and cutting hair like in his car was what

877
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: was so me though? Just to jump this when like

878
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: his stepdad dies or something like that, he just makes

879
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: a collage of like Tanya Harding like his mom Yeah

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Speaker 1: wait well hello, which is also so usum how he

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Speaker 1: describes having that quilt of celebrities yeah. Literally, Yeah, he's

882
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: just like um, Tanya Harding, like Nicole Kinman, my mom, Perker,

883
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: Nancy Kurgan. Yeah, so I think that I just think

884
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Speaker 1: there was a there was a New York moment, maybe

885
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: when she was doing her radio City and that's when

886
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: Bug died. And this is why I'm picturing this high rise.

887
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: I think that he was staying at just like the

888
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Speaker 1: lot or like something or like and like renting for

889
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: six months just like yeah, or maybe he was staying

890
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Speaker 1: at like a weirder we just staying at like the

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Speaker 1: stay Bridge Crown Plaza that. No, I feel like it

892
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: was like a twenty third and six the high rise

893
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: and it was those suicide proof windows, but a cat

894
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: could fit out, yeah, because it was small. We'll say

895
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Speaker 1: we were saying this because the article mentioned that I

896
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Speaker 1: was in New York. No, it's just because the cat

897
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: jumped out of the window and died. And I'm thinking

898
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: they have like high rises in like downtown La guess

899
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: so you don't think it's hello, remember the apartment that

900
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Speaker 1: like Jason has in selling Senset When oh yeah, is like,

901
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: don't you think it's like in that building round tower?

902
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: When I Tara Reid also lives in an apartment building

903
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: in Hollywood, Like I kind of had a right, you

904
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: sold me in Hollywood in a weird apartment building and

905
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: it's high and the cat jump. It's high and it's

906
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: has it yeah, and it's a big condo and it's

907
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: like a three bedroom. In one of the bedrooms, maybe

908
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: two of the bedrooms full of boxes and there's so

909
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: many like Stuart Whitesman gift bags and just like oh honey,

910
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: I need to go through that. Come over and then

911
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: like herbrom, I do think it's like he has closets,

912
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: but like still its high bed for storage. No, the

913
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: bet and this is what I mean by Warren Gay.

914
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: The bed is high, the TV's small, and just I

915
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: think things are unpacked and its going to small. The

916
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: TV is far from yeah, and they're always yea and

917
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: they're always like going to Austin to shoot the show

918
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: for like six months and then he has like just

919
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: some recesses, cans of recess in his first product everywhere

920
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: and it's like I'm surprised it hasn't been at home

921
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: at it episode with him yet where they're coming over,

922
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: he's just he's sobbing and He's like, girls, you've saved

923
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: my Life's like, okay, honey, this is intake, Like I

924
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: need this area for intake, And like maybe Bobby is

925
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 1: telling him to like buy a certain ottoman. I think

926
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: there's a group text and Tan is sending an automan

927
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: and no one's responding until a day later. Yeah, and

928
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: then like what do you think of past from my home?

929
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: And then there are just like sis work and just

930
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: like Karamo's taking a selfie of his new like bomber jacket. Okay,

931
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: who are you in the book? He Nahum, I guess

932
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: we're both. We're both Jonathan and we're like, I'm literally

933
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: aged ten, same age he wrote his Monica. That's when

934
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: I went as Bill for Halloween. I'm collage of women.

935
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: I'm literally pretending to be a figure skater on my

936
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: kitchen floor and we're eating so many snakes, like sneaky snacks,

937
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: and I'm putting like nacho cheese on cheesets and like

938
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: making it like surface honey to the boots, to the bots. Um.

939
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: So yeah, we're both Jonathan Vans and you would love

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00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: to open for you on your next radio. Um, okay,

941
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: I give this book. I give this book. Honestly a

942
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: three point nine. It went by fast. I laughed, there's

943
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: good information in it. Yeah, I was pleasantly surprised. It

944
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: was a ramp, I give it. I give it, yeah,

945
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: three point seven layers of a shag, I give it, yeah,

946
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: three point on sorry, um American apparel, dead stock leggings. Oh.

947
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: When he tells Sergey that, he's like, you need to

948
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: know that I do yoga and leggings and Sergey's like, yeah,

949
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: you're a huge was I did I think you were

950
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: not going to do yoga and like and he's like

951
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: and then Sergey said, I do it in basketball shorts,

952
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 1: and I was like, go off, honey. That part is

953
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: so relatable because I also like, I have that same

954
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: relationship with my masculinity where I'm always just like, wait,

955
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: will a guy like know that I'm in sane faggot

956
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: like when I when he's dating me, and it's like

957
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: they're always like, yes, yes, actually that was already understood. Yeah,

958
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: It's like that wasn't That's on a secret to be

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00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: revealed later. That's really unpacked in the new Netflix show Uncoupled,

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Speaker 1: which all I just finished and I'll beginning to win

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00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: taking us on your journey of beauty and truth, honey, um,

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