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Speaker 2: Links available in the episode description. So here we are.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm Jeff Garland.
Speaker 1: I'm Susie Esman, and this is the History of Curby Enthusiasm,
Speaker 1: and we are about to start season four.
Speaker 3: Right in Susie's in studio.
Speaker 2: I'm in studio in New York.
Speaker 3: I'm in my office at home. I usually close the door,
Speaker 3: but my dog will be weirded out, so maybe she'll
Speaker 3: show up. Yeah, from my kitchen.
Speaker 2: We have to have dog access. That's very important.
Speaker 1: So season four, I believe it was two thousand and
Speaker 1: four around there that we shot this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is the producer's season.
Speaker 3: And by the way, if I'm Susie. When I started
Speaker 3: watching this episode, it wasn't until I saw Mel Brooks
Speaker 3: that I realized it was the producers season. That's well,
Speaker 3: that's how long since I've seen this stuff.
Speaker 1: I know it's been a long time. Yeah, And this
Speaker 1: episode is called Mel's Offer yep. And we start off
Speaker 1: with Cheryl and Larry. They're in an Italian restaurant and
Speaker 1: the waiter is giving them unintelligible specials, which I thought
Speaker 1: was hilarious.
Speaker 3: I feel like, use.
Speaker 4: What's the sauce with the fish?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 3: What fish? Well, by the way, if you slowed that
Speaker 3: guy down, he was just doing either either he knew
Speaker 3: Italian or it was gibberish. Because Larry's making a joke
Speaker 3: on something. Every once in a while we do a
Speaker 3: subtle broad joke because what it usually is is the
Speaker 3: guy just talks fast with a French accent or Italian accent,
Speaker 3: and you have no idea what they're saying. Would you
Speaker 3: slow them down? It would make sense.
Speaker 2: This guy no nothing, We understood nothing.
Speaker 1: Then finally Larry's like, I'll have the first thing in
Speaker 1: Cheryl's I'll have the second thing. And then we find
Speaker 1: out from Cheryl that their ten year anniversary is coming
Speaker 1: up and Cheryl would like to renew the vows and
Speaker 1: have a real ceremony. I have to say, my fifteen
Speaker 1: year anniversary is coming up. I have zero interest in
Speaker 1: renewing my vows and having a real ceremony.
Speaker 2: Zero interest.
Speaker 3: Would you want to even have a party. No, exactly.
Speaker 3: You know, I used to gig on New Year's I
Speaker 3: don't even do that anymore.
Speaker 1: Well, in the old days, we didn't have to worry
Speaker 1: about having dates because we were always busy on Saturday night,
Speaker 1: always busy on New Year's Eve.
Speaker 2: Oh you know, it wasn't that kind of thing.
Speaker 3: We didn't have children, right, and so yeah, you could
Speaker 3: do anything. So I worked every New Year's for probably.
Speaker 2: Two for years.
Speaker 3: Is great pay day, always any day, even for a
Speaker 3: young comic, it was a better payday.
Speaker 1: And at the clubs that you would work, let's say
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve was a Friday, the Thursday night before
Speaker 1: you'd get you know, twenty dollars a set. New Year's
Speaker 1: Eve you get maybe three hundred. So it was like
Speaker 1: a big the same exactly deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a big deal.
Speaker 3: The only thing that sucked being on stage always was
Speaker 3: the countdown.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I always tried to avoid that, but that
Speaker 1: was like, you know, thinking about that. That was like
Speaker 1: in the old days, you didn't have to think about
Speaker 1: your social life ever. You'd walk into a club, you
Speaker 1: knew everybody, from the waiters and waitresses to the doorman,
Speaker 1: to the comics.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 3: Then from the age of twenty up until I met
Speaker 3: my wife Marline, no exaggeration, I was dating my stand
Speaker 3: up career. Yes, yes, dating my stand up career. That's
Speaker 3: all that mattered. And it was great, girls, it was great,
Speaker 3: it was great. You had There was nothing I want
Speaker 3: to recapture that moment.
Speaker 1: And it was our cheers, like you'd walk into a
Speaker 1: club and you knew everyone ever.
Speaker 6: You was just.
Speaker 3: But also of that time, there was a different vibe
Speaker 3: amongst comedians. We were almost a organism and this is
Speaker 3: the world.
Speaker 1: It's so, but there was not that many of us. Also, Jeff,
Speaker 1: there's a lot more now, I think, oh.
Speaker 3: My god, a zillion more. But you still I don't
Speaker 3: ever get the oh, we're going to the diner down
Speaker 3: the block.
Speaker 2: H you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Fine, That's how I helped gain a lot of weight.
Speaker 1: We'd run around doing five, six, seven sets a night,
Speaker 1: and then we'd go to the diner and you go
Speaker 1: over your stuff. You'd say, I did this, this work,
Speaker 1: This didn't work. Somebody would say try that.
Speaker 3: I know found that the max helpful is five, six
Speaker 3: is not helpful. Seven is a complete loss. You don't
Speaker 3: know what's seven, Yes, because you don't remember what you said,
Speaker 3: you didn't say, and.
Speaker 2: I have done this where I repeat myself.
Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, that's why I'm saying I did
Speaker 3: the same thing, you know.
Speaker 1: So Cheryl wants to renew the vows and Larry gives in.
Speaker 1: He says, oh, okay, okay, I'll give in, and Larry says,
Speaker 1: my gift for our ten year anniversary he has already
Speaker 1: been agreed upon, and Cheryl doesn't know what he's talking about.
Speaker 1: And then we have the flashback, which you know I
Speaker 1: love these, Okay, I love the flash back.
Speaker 3: All the flashbacks. This one hold on though. This one
Speaker 3: felt real, do you know what I mean? This one
Speaker 3: because some of the others, especially the ice cream one
Speaker 3: and bald Larry as a kid, Joe per se. But
Speaker 3: this one they look like they looked I don't know
Speaker 3: if Cheryl had that kind of.
Speaker 1: Hair, but it looked glassy hair, yeah, but it looked real.
Speaker 3: And then Larry Larry was just brown, yeah, but he
Speaker 3: was it was And the glasses that he wore, he
Speaker 3: looked like you wanted a time machine and I knew him.
Speaker 1: Then, Yes, what look like That's what I'm saying, except
Speaker 1: he had more in those days, in the eighties, he
Speaker 1: had brown hair, but it was bigger, it was more bozo.
Speaker 3: And then when it was on Fridays it was really big.
Speaker 2: It was very boso.
Speaker 1: So they're about to get married and Cheryl she just
Speaker 1: goes to this whole thing.
Speaker 2: She wants to be Cheryl David. It's very odd she
Speaker 2: wants to be Cheryl David. Larr's like, why, well, the great.
Speaker 3: Line that Larry says is, I don't even want to
Speaker 3: be a David, right, why would you want to be
Speaker 3: a David?
Speaker 1: But she does because it's exotic to her, And she
Speaker 1: says to him, are you worried about Are you reluctant
Speaker 1: because you're worried about not being able to have sex
Speaker 1: with someone else?
Speaker 2: Now, you know that is a major thing.
Speaker 1: When you're making a commitment to get married, you're basically
Speaker 1: saying I am never going to have sex with anyone
Speaker 1: else for the rest of my life. That's bizarre to
Speaker 1: make that commitment. I mean, I've made it, but it's bizarre.
Speaker 3: That's why a lot of couples, partners what have you,
Speaker 3: don't get married, right, I do believe like gay marriage
Speaker 3: and all that stuff. Hey, I love that the civil
Speaker 3: right is there. But I always wonder I someone did
Speaker 3: this joke.
Speaker 2: Why do you want to be us?
Speaker 3: Why do you want to be married? We don't want
Speaker 3: to be married. Why would you? But I do get
Speaker 3: the civil rights of it all.
Speaker 1: But of course the civil they should have the right
Speaker 1: to do whatever they want. But why choose it?
Speaker 3: I had dunched the other day with a beautiful French woman,
Speaker 3: seventy nine years old, gorgeous, she's never had any work done,
Speaker 3: her hair as brown and beautiful. I mean, this woman
Speaker 3: is as gorgeous. She was married. Her name's Francois. She
Speaker 3: was married to Douglas Kirkland, who was a great photographer.
Speaker 3: He has a new book coming out of his pictures
Speaker 3: of Bridget Bardoux. He did a lot of them in
Speaker 3: road too.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 3: Anyhow, she starts telling me about their relationship, and she said,
Speaker 3: we split up a couple times, and she knew he
Speaker 3: was with other women, and she wasn't mad about that.
Speaker 3: She was mad about that he was sharing what was
Speaker 3: on his mind his work, because emotion, that's beyond emotional,
Speaker 3: it's very that's specific emotional intimacy. And so but she
Speaker 3: also said to me because I'm I'm big on Uh
Speaker 3: what's the word called when you don't fool around monogamy? Well, yeah,
Speaker 3: I enjoyed, by the way, in this day and age,
Speaker 3: I love monogamy anyhow.
Speaker 2: Who will gratefulness, well, watfulness.
Speaker 3: All that stuff. I'm about that, but it seems to
Speaker 3: me and I'm always I don't say I don't ghost them.
Speaker 3: I hate ghosting. But it's a funny how all these
Speaker 3: women from my past whenever I have a fight with Sari,
Speaker 3: whenever Sari lives town. I don't know if they have
Speaker 3: a red light that goes in their house, but they
Speaker 3: all contact me. Oh and by the way, that's not
Speaker 3: an exaggeration. When Sari's around, I never hear from any
Speaker 3: of them. I don't know how they I.
Speaker 1: Got married for the first time at how old was
Speaker 1: I forty eight? So I had no problem committing to monogamy.
Speaker 1: I had sewn wild oats, you know.
Speaker 3: By that way, point thanks to you, I've sewn wild oats,
Speaker 3: which you recommend to me when I split with my wife.
Speaker 3: So your oats you have never seen you?
Speaker 1: Why, Jeff, Because you you got married young, you didn't
Speaker 1: have a lot of experience before you met Marla, and
Speaker 1: I thought it was important before you met the next
Speaker 1: person for you to go out there and you know,
Speaker 1: have some.
Speaker 3: Fun experience, like, yes, I had a bit before I
Speaker 3: started comedy, Like I said, though, comedy was my girlfriend.
Speaker 5: Yeah you.
Speaker 7: Will.
Speaker 2: So your oats okay, So your oats okay?
Speaker 8: All right.
Speaker 1: So apparently in the flashback, Cheryl tells Larry. Not apparently,
Speaker 1: she tells yet Larry.
Speaker 4: Okay, how about if we get married now, right now,
Speaker 4: for a ten year anniversary, you can have sex with
Speaker 4: someone else. If that's your your hold up here, let's
Speaker 4: just do that.
Speaker 5: Come on, when you get you're not gonna let me
Speaker 5: do that? What are you saying, though, I will.
Speaker 4: Just sex one time. It's not a big deal.
Speaker 1: On our ten year anniversary. You could have sex with
Speaker 1: someone else one time. Then we're back to the present
Speaker 1: and Cheryl says, I can't believe you remember that, and
Speaker 1: Larry's say, ah, I'm joking around it.
Speaker 2: Sarah's like no, no, no.
Speaker 1: Cheryl insists that he calls her on that because I
Speaker 1: think Cheryl does not believe he could find somebody.
Speaker 3: Hold on a second here, hold on a second there.
Speaker 3: He would have loved to say, and what he wanted
Speaker 3: on the inside was Oh, you can do that, Okay,
Speaker 3: that's great. Instead he has to fake it. No, I
Speaker 3: wouldn't want to. But the minute she tells him he can't,
Speaker 3: that good luck to him is that he can.
Speaker 2: Minute she tells him he can, yeah.
Speaker 3: No, No. The minute she tells me he can't, though,
Speaker 3: is good luck. You won't find anybody like he's going out.
Speaker 3: That's when he's made his mind up. This is gonna happen.
Speaker 3: It's a challenge.
Speaker 4: She says, if you think you can have sex with
Speaker 4: somebody else and you should do that, what does that mean? Hey, lady,
Speaker 4: I'm Larry David and my wife said I could have
Speaker 4: sex with somebody tonight.
Speaker 1: If you think you could have sex with someone else,
Speaker 1: then you should do it. Clearly she doesn't think he could,
Speaker 1: and Larry's insulted. I understand that, And Cheryl doesn't think
Speaker 1: she's capable, And Larry says, it's okay with you, no
Speaker 1: crying afterwards, and she's like, you have until our anniversary.
Speaker 2: Good luck.
Speaker 1: Then they're on the way to the karaoke Larry's like,
Speaker 1: I hope Jeff is going to be at the karaoke party.
Speaker 2: Because he can't wait to tell you, he can't.
Speaker 1: Wait to tell you that he has permission right to
Speaker 1: fuck somebody else.
Speaker 3: And then what does it open up right away that
Speaker 3: I love the economy of that.
Speaker 2: The cut Tamel singing justin Time.
Speaker 3: Cut to Mel just in Time, and then a cut
Speaker 3: to Larry and I having that conversation. And of course
Speaker 3: I say, you have to.
Speaker 2: Marry man's dream.
Speaker 1: You say it's a married man's dream, and you think
Speaker 1: it's great, and then you say.
Speaker 2: Who, Well that becomes the issue, doesn't it.
Speaker 3: Okay, So before we get to what happens next, I
Speaker 3: want to say two things. Number One, watching Mel in this,
Speaker 3: just watching Mel in general, Mel is magic. Yes, Mel
Speaker 3: warms my heart when I see him.
Speaker 2: We'll be right back. Stay tuned and we're back.
Speaker 3: You know, one time I went to the doctor's to
Speaker 3: get my flu shot and I hear this voice from
Speaker 3: inside the doctor Jeff, Jeff. It was Mel calling me
Speaker 3: to be so in the room. We got our flu shots. So,
Speaker 3: as a kid watching Young Frankenstein or A History of
Speaker 3: the World, whatever have you, silent movie, in my wildest
Speaker 3: imagination being a flu shot with.
Speaker 1: Him, well, you know, I mean one of the one
Speaker 1: of the nice things that in one's career is when
Speaker 1: you get to meet your idol, sometimes you're disappointed. Mel
Speaker 1: was absolutely my comedic idol. In nineteen sixty, I was
Speaker 1: five years old and my parents got the two thousand
Speaker 1: year Old Man album and I would.
Speaker 2: Listen to it over and over.
Speaker 1: And what's interesting to me is that there were things
Speaker 1: I couldn't have possibly understood that were well.
Speaker 3: There was a lot, there was a lot of subtleties.
Speaker 1: But I got the rhythm of it, the rhythm. I
Speaker 1: knew it was funny because of the rhythm of it.
Speaker 3: Rhythms exactly.
Speaker 1: So at five years old, I had that rhythm in
Speaker 1: my head and I would stand up on the kitchen table.
Speaker 1: I would do the whole album for the family, both
Speaker 1: Mel and Carl.
Speaker 2: I do both parts. I memorize the whole thing.
Speaker 1: And then some years later, sometimes I'd be on stage
Speaker 1: doing stand up and I would hear that rhythm in
Speaker 1: my head like somehow I would say something. I'd be like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that was a Mel rhythm. It was
Speaker 1: so ingrained in me.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So he was my first comedic influence, right, and to
Speaker 1: meet him and to work with him was just absolutely
Speaker 1: one of the great thrills of my life.
Speaker 2: And he did not disappoint.
Speaker 3: He was fun. He was great.
Speaker 2: Meant she wonders, underform.
Speaker 3: Willing to talk about anything you know from his past. No,
Speaker 3: a delight. That's why I so I'm saying when I'm
Speaker 3: watching him sing, I'm like, mel is magic. Okay, he is,
Speaker 3: all right?
Speaker 1: So there, so we introduced Mel and then you and
Speaker 1: Larry are talking about the married man's stream.
Speaker 3: The mind that I wrote down that I said to
Speaker 3: him was damn it man, do it, damn it man too.
Speaker 3: And then he goes over to talk to that he.
Speaker 1: But Larry does say, this is the thing I'm worst
Speaker 1: at in the world. Asking a woman, you know, and
Speaker 1: we know that he is. And Jeff points to a
Speaker 1: very attractive.
Speaker 3: Does what he would say? You know? He doesn't. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then Jeff, you point to a very attractive woman,
Speaker 1: you say, just go do it, make a move. And
Speaker 1: Larry goes and talks to this attractive woman the most
Speaker 1: ridiculous conversation.
Speaker 9: What can you do a night bowling movies? It's like
Speaker 9: a third thing to do after bowling in the movies.
Speaker 9: I don't know if you bowl or not. I don't
Speaker 9: go that often, but it's fun. It's fun.
Speaker 5: You can't find the ball, that's the problem.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 9: I don't Maybe you want a bowling ball. I don't
Speaker 9: own a bowling ball my whole life. Every time at
Speaker 9: a bowling allergy sticking my fingers and all his holes
Speaker 9: picking up the balls. You gotta get your own ball.
Speaker 9: I don't bowl enough, I think, to get my own ball.
Speaker 9: It takes up a lot of space in the house.
Speaker 9: You keep looking at it in the closet, going what
Speaker 9: am I doing with a bowling ball?
Speaker 1: I don't even I mean if that, if I was
Speaker 1: that woman, I would have just like I would have
Speaker 1: said the.
Speaker 3: Way she played it note perfect for not she said
Speaker 3: a million words by not saying any words, right. And
Speaker 3: you know what's funny this episode he talks more than usual.
Speaker 3: He does talk a lot, as you know, and outside
Speaker 3: of the show, I'm a big talker. So as I'm
Speaker 3: watching him talk through this episode, it started reminding me
Speaker 3: of Sari and I so I told her that. I said, Sari,
Speaker 3: I was watching Curb a scene on Curb, and I
Speaker 3: thought of you, and she was prepared.
Speaker 2: I thought about Sary. So everybody knows is your girlfriend.
Speaker 3: Yes, and I told her, I said, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: watching Larry Talk. And all I thought to myself was
Speaker 3: poor Sari, poor poor Sari, that she used to deal
Speaker 3: with this. Well, you the listener, who've been listening to this, Yes,
Speaker 3: I interrupt, because it's a thought about it.
Speaker 1: The show goes, he goes off on a whole rant
Speaker 1: about bowling balls, and it's just a ridiculous rant and
Speaker 1: it's a complete disaster.
Speaker 3: By the way, I had an end to the French thing.
Speaker 3: I realized it wasn't what she missed, and I don't
Speaker 3: remember the topic. But at the end, when she left,
Speaker 3: she grabbed my face. She said life is too short
Speaker 3: to worry about that, in other words.
Speaker 2: Being she's jealous. No no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: No, that I should be with all those women women
Speaker 3: because she's French and you.
Speaker 2: Should you know, French. Okay, she's obviously she's not Jewish, Jeff, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know if she is. I don't think she is.
Speaker 1: No, it's not a Jewish women. Jewish women don't let
Speaker 1: their husband's cheat, they.
Speaker 3: Don't let their husbands even think about you.
Speaker 6: That's right, by the way, that show and this show
Speaker 6: will do that episode, man so many people love the
Speaker 6: scene when I take you to the airport and I'm
Speaker 6: singing and I'm bouncing.
Speaker 3: I'm happy. I'm not telling you I'm doing anything. Thank
Speaker 3: God you're gone, and you look at me and you say.
Speaker 2: Back, I'm too happy.
Speaker 3: What the hell's going on? And that is a Jewish woman?
Speaker 3: That is wow.
Speaker 2: That's that was season nine or ten.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, so but nonetheless people love We'll get to it, yes, okay,
Speaker 7: And then the MC calls Larry up, and Larry goes
Speaker 7: up and he does his al Jolson swany yeah to
Speaker 7: the carry out.
Speaker 3: And by the way, he is good at that. He's
Speaker 3: really good at singing, he really is.
Speaker 1: But he's also such a good mimic as as you
Speaker 1: and I know, he's a terrific mimic, whether it's James
Speaker 1: or you know what's his.
Speaker 3: Name doing the young Lincoln.
Speaker 7: I'll think that young Raymond, you know Mary the House Divided?
Speaker 3: Well, how many times do I ask him to do it?
Speaker 3: And then he finally did it in the show and
Speaker 3: I laugh at that one.
Speaker 2: Say that Jeff, well, give him something away.
Speaker 3: Hold on, I don't think is Raymond Massey is part
Speaker 3: of the storyline whenever he did it?
Speaker 2: Oh no, his Raymond Massy is not okay.
Speaker 3: So there you go. What am I?
Speaker 6: All right?
Speaker 2: So, and then we cut to Larry.
Speaker 3: Wait, hold on, hold on, are you talking about Larry?
Speaker 3: So the last line that he says before he walks
Speaker 3: away from the woman is the funniest line in the scene,
Speaker 3: which is, I'm around town.
Speaker 2: Yes, like she can find him.
Speaker 3: In case you think, oh I made a mistake, I'm
Speaker 3: around town. I love I'm around town. That's too funny.
Speaker 1: And let's say she did want to find him. I'm
Speaker 1: around town.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, but that's why it was so funny.
Speaker 3: I'm around town. Oh boy.
Speaker 1: So we cut to you and Larry are in a
Speaker 1: meeting with Melbrook.
Speaker 2: No, are you going into the meeting with Melos?
Speaker 3: No, we are in the car.
Speaker 1: You're in the car going and at Mel's building right
Speaker 1: in the wheelchair, and the guy in the wheelchair is
Speaker 1: on the cell phone and Larry almost runs him down
Speaker 1: and they get into an argument.
Speaker 2: And Steve Rash.
Speaker 1: Very quickly, who was our editor, it was in the
Speaker 1: background as an extra, been the editor.
Speaker 2: A brilliant editor, because so.
Speaker 1: Much of this show is done in the hour, all
Speaker 1: the way since the very beginning.
Speaker 3: Because I always say with Larry, you know, you and
Speaker 3: Cheryl most of it, but I always say Larry myself,
Speaker 3: and who is the other person? One other person had
Speaker 3: been there since the actual beginning, and I can't remember Caryl, yes,
Speaker 3: but she had seasons that she wasn't on.
Speaker 2: Was Bob Whitey uh No, because the.
Speaker 3: Past you've seen Laura Laura, Laura Fairchild or Laura Striker Striker. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so it's Laura. Who's Larry.
Speaker 2: She's a producer Rash as well, Steve Rash as well.
Speaker 3: So there's four of us who've been on everage.
Speaker 1: And because the show is improvised, so much is done
Speaker 1: in editing, so much, I mean so much of the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is, he really is.
Speaker 3: I remember this is just coming to me when we
Speaker 3: were in these weird offices where HBO had this theater
Speaker 3: where they would screen their stuff and there were offices
Speaker 3: on that level no windows. So I remember the only
Speaker 3: thing that had been like this prior to us doing
Speaker 3: this was Christopher Guest movies. And I know, yeah, he
Speaker 3: had a strong script, but he also had great improvisers
Speaker 3: in all the roles, and.
Speaker 2: So question did he have dialogue written in his scripts
Speaker 2: or no, oh.
Speaker 3: Sure, sure, sure, yeah, and I we don't I know,
Speaker 3: but I think his was more than an outline, Like
Speaker 3: we get an outline and the scenes ritt, but we
Speaker 3: don't have so he had more. But that being said,
Speaker 3: I called him and I said, hey, we're about to
Speaker 3: do this show. He doesn't know who I am at
Speaker 3: this point. We're about to do this show. Do you
Speaker 3: have any advice for our editor and editing? He said no,
Speaker 3: he was Mary succinct. You went no, no, and then
Speaker 3: I go, well, thank you, and it was over. It
Speaker 3: was over. But that's what I got. No. Since then,
Speaker 3: I've gotten to know him, and he is eccentric, but
Speaker 3: none do you know. One time I thought, okay, and
Speaker 3: I know we're interrupting ourselves because you're doing it a lot.
Speaker 3: The comedy Festival, HBO's Comedy Arts Festival. And then so
Speaker 3: I think Marla's coming down the hallway. I'm sure because
Speaker 3: I'm expecting her at that second. So I'm in the hallway,
Speaker 3: you know, halfway through the door, dancing in my underwear.
Speaker 3: That's it, just my underwear. Christopher Guests walks by. He
Speaker 3: looks at me and he goes, hi, Jeff and keeps walking.
Speaker 2: Didn't didn't non plus.
Speaker 3: Well, just like you know, he's very succinct, that man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, you know you mentioned the Comedy Arts Festival.
Speaker 1: The first trip it was like twenty years ago when
Speaker 1: I first met my husband Jimmy. The first trip I
Speaker 1: took with him was I brought him to Aspen to
Speaker 1: the festival.
Speaker 2: We were doing some kind of panel, some curb panel.
Speaker 3: With David Steinberg. Yeah, and I remember Diane Keaton was
Speaker 3: right after us, huh. And it was a fun and
Speaker 3: Monty Python were being feted the right word.
Speaker 1: So we're at the you know, you're at the bar
Speaker 1: at these festivals, and you know everybody at the bar,
Speaker 1: it's just everybody, every comic. And Chris Rock was standing
Speaker 1: there and I introduced Jimmy to Chris Rock and I said, Chris,
Speaker 1: this is my you know, I've known Christmas so many
Speaker 1: They say Chris, this is my boyfriend, Jimmy, And Jimmy says,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, what was your name?
Speaker 2: Mark? And I thought, I love this guy.
Speaker 3: I got you the way. He is the least pretentious
Speaker 3: man I've ever met.
Speaker 2: Exactly, didn't know who anybody was.
Speaker 3: It doesn't care a lot of people in that situation
Speaker 3: would try to cover it up and just not use
Speaker 3: his name or try and make something maneuver it.
Speaker 2: And he's guileless. He just says, I'm sorry, what was
Speaker 2: your name? Mark?
Speaker 1: Okay, So the guy in the wheelchair on the cell
Speaker 1: phone Larry. He and Larry have a fight because Larry
Speaker 1: almost runs him over and the guy's not paying attention,
Speaker 1: but blah. And then you walk into the building and
Speaker 1: Larry finds a wallet sitting in the hallway in the lobby.
Speaker 1: You go up to Mel's office and there is his
Speaker 1: assistant played by Rachel Harris.
Speaker 3: Rachel Harris a grown person, one.
Speaker 1: Of Cheryl's friends, Cheryl's best friend, and Rachel Harris. I
Speaker 1: forgot the name of her character, but she says, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's Amina. She says that the wallet belongs to Dennis,
Speaker 1: who does our computers. I don't know if she says
Speaker 1: at that moment that he's in a wheelchair. But then
Speaker 1: she says that she Larry noticed that.
Speaker 3: Larry said a guy in the he had a problem
Speaker 3: with the guy in the wheelchair. He had to stop.
Speaker 3: Shouldn't there be rules? And then he said, I found
Speaker 3: this wallet, and she said that's Dennis our blood.
Speaker 2: He's in the wheelchair. Okay.
Speaker 1: So then Rachel is looking at baby names and she
Speaker 1: establishes that she and her partner are adopting a baby.
Speaker 1: And why do I have hear my partner is my rival?
Speaker 1: I think Larry said that.
Speaker 3: No, he says, you know, look at partners partners. I'm married,
Speaker 3: When you're married, your wife is like, he's talking about
Speaker 3: I have a rival. I don't have a partner, which,
Speaker 3: by the one, so true.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. I don't feel that way. But
Speaker 2: we'll be right back. Stay tuned, and we're back.
Speaker 1: It's established that they're adopting a Chinese boy, which I
Speaker 1: thought was weird because there aren't Chinese boys at that
Speaker 1: time to be adopted. They were all Chinese girls that
Speaker 1: were being adopted. And so Larry starts going through Chinese.
Speaker 5: Name Wang isn't a bad first name. Wang.
Speaker 9: Then you got the whole Aang family, Fang Bang Tang.
Speaker 9: Tang is not actually a bad name because it's like China,
Speaker 9: but it's it's not China.
Speaker 5: It's a juice, that's what it is.
Speaker 2: Tang. Is that so bad?
Speaker 9: Naming a kid after a juice? Maybe that's not so bad,
Speaker 9: but it's but it has Chinese overtones tang, but yet
Speaker 9: there's a you got a little jolt with it.
Speaker 2: I don't think that would go over too well with
Speaker 2: the school kids.
Speaker 5: It's going to kind of be the least of his
Speaker 5: problems though.
Speaker 2: And I'll be right with you.
Speaker 3: Did they still make tang?
Speaker 2: I don't know. The astronaut tang was.
Speaker 3: Supposed the astronauts used it. It was a powdered orange drink
Speaker 3: that you put in the water, and it was actually
Speaker 3: it wasn't great.
Speaker 2: It was orange, okay.
Speaker 1: And then Larry goes off on a hole named me
Speaker 1: the kid after a juice and Rachel says, I don't
Speaker 1: think that'll go over with the school kids, and Larry says,
Speaker 1: least of his problems.
Speaker 2: No, it's so incendiary. It's so incendiary.
Speaker 1: And then Larry goes to the bathroom and as he's
Speaker 1: going walking into the bathroom, Mel opens the bathroom door
Speaker 1: and hits Larry in the head and it's a big
Speaker 1: gash and he's bleeding. Next Jeff and Larry go to
Speaker 1: the doctor.
Speaker 3: Hold on one second, I have written down ben Veren,
Speaker 3: did I?
Speaker 1: Or you said something about ben Veren and the name
Speaker 1: you didn't.
Speaker 3: You, Ben Veren, Okay, yeah, yeah, it's something that I've
Speaker 3: repeated many times in times. Long before he was hit
Speaker 3: by a van. You know it was he was on
Speaker 3: ten Speed in brown Shoes, a show with Jeff Goldblum.
Speaker 3: That was the co star Ben Vereen Jeff Goblum Network show. Okay,
Speaker 3: keep going.
Speaker 1: So you're at the doctor. Larry doesn't want to sign in.
Speaker 1: He doesn't like having his name on lists.
Speaker 2: Just sign in. He makes a McGill about it.
Speaker 3: Then hold on, though, I hate that too. A lot
Speaker 3: of times I'll read it.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's a reasonable thing.
Speaker 3: I write a fake name almost every time. They don't care,
Speaker 3: they don't notice.
Speaker 2: And also, why does everybody have to see your name?
Speaker 3: Well, by the way, I always read the names, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: I always do as a friend because I think a
Speaker 3: friend of mine might be there, and that's happened.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't read it because I think somebody I
Speaker 1: know might be there. I read it more like I'm
Speaker 1: just interested. It's like, who's here today?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You know, what are the names?
Speaker 1: What is this?
Speaker 2: What is this world that I'm walking into?
Speaker 1: Then Larry's waiting in the exam room and he calls
Speaker 1: you on the phone, not the cell phone, but the
Speaker 1: phone that's sitting on the counter in the examination room.
Speaker 3: Dude, what are you doing? What? What do you call
Speaker 3: me on the doctor's phone for?
Speaker 5: I'm doing board to Dathan here.
Speaker 3: Don't use the doctor's phone. That's not right.
Speaker 5: What's the big deal?
Speaker 3: They don't like it?
Speaker 5: Well, I just thought i'd give you a call. See
Speaker 5: what's up? How you doing? What are you.
Speaker 3: Reading Men's Fitness, Men's Fitness? Yeah, about America's fastest cities.
Speaker 5: Oh, you know what, there's a doctor.
Speaker 3: All right, I'll talk to you later.
Speaker 5: I will talk to you later.
Speaker 3: I was Jeff, I'm supposed to use that phone.
Speaker 5: Sorry, it was a local call.
Speaker 3: You're not supposed to use the phone. It doesn't matter
Speaker 3: whether it was a local or a long distance phone.
Speaker 3: We just didn't want people using that phone.
Speaker 5: Okay, fine, what's what? What's the big deal? Though maybe
Speaker 5: I may ask what's the problem.
Speaker 3: There is no problem. We just don't want people using that.
Speaker 1: And you say you don't use the doctor's phone. Hold on,
Speaker 1: I guess it came up.
Speaker 3: It comes up in conversation. But you see me when
Speaker 3: my phone rings, reading Men's Fitness and I am. I
Speaker 3: am very heavy, not the heaviest I ever was. But
Speaker 3: I'm a good.
Speaker 2: I'm a good face is so cherubic. Baby, Yeah, you're
Speaker 2: just like a little baby.
Speaker 3: Easily eighty five at that point, and reading Men's Fitness,
Speaker 3: which in itself, okay, keep going.
Speaker 1: And then in walks the doctor who is the great,
Speaker 1: great Philip who was such a brilliant, brilliant character actors
Speaker 1: no longer with us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was on Seinfeld in almost every Paul Thomas
Speaker 3: Anderson movie.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, he was.
Speaker 3: He was a favorite.
Speaker 7: He's a brilliant Well, by the way, he's worked so much.
Speaker 3: You know, the other night, I remember what I was
Speaker 3: watching last week. I was watching a reasonably old movie something.
Speaker 3: It was eighties, I believe you know today that's that's
Speaker 3: a classic old thing. Anyhow, it was a young Philip
Speaker 3: Baker Hall in a small part, and I was like,
Speaker 3: holy crap, that's Philly. So he's been working a long
Speaker 3: time and he was and by the way, I want.
Speaker 2: To say, Larry loves him.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, you know they get in an argument. What's
Speaker 3: the big deal, don't use the phone.
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to use that phone. But Larry's like this
Speaker 1: stresses that it was a local call. Yeah, so what
Speaker 1: difference does it mean?
Speaker 3: Don't stop? But here's what I want to say. Philip
Speaker 3: Baker Hall at no point even smirked.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: Every time he said anything, Larry exploded with laughter. I'm
Speaker 3: talking every time he said don't use the phone. You
Speaker 3: shouldn't use the phone, Larry.
Speaker 1: Exploded, and he said things that were so funny, like
Speaker 1: the history of why you can't use this phone is
Speaker 1: so complex, Yes, things like that.
Speaker 3: By the way, again Larry. And when I say laughed,
Speaker 3: I mean he laughed hard and he could barely. That
Speaker 3: scene should have taken forty minutes to shoot, and I
Speaker 3: know it took an hour easy.
Speaker 2: With his laugh, Well, welcome to my world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Larry, the reason seems capricious, and yeah,
Speaker 1: he doesn't break. He's totally serious that the history is
Speaker 1: so complexible. And then he mentions that he has tickets
Speaker 1: for the producers and he's going to be because Larry says,
Speaker 1: mel Brooks bang the door into his head and he
Speaker 1: talks about having the doctor has tickets for the producers,
Speaker 1: and he's going to clean it up in a few
Speaker 1: minutes and put some stitches on et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2: And they then they still carry on more after that
Speaker 2: about the rule not making sense.
Speaker 3: And then he says it'll be a little prick, little
Speaker 3: prick when he does the stitches, and Larry says, oh,
Speaker 3: I know that there's a price.
Speaker 2: Definitely a prick, and he says, yeah, a prick.
Speaker 3: And I thought to myself, why he's doing that? And
Speaker 3: this is Larry's character. If you are going to move
Speaker 3: forward with the doctor to do a minimal procedure a
Speaker 3: big procedure, wouldn't you kind of want him to like.
Speaker 1: You, especially if he's stitching up your head. Yes, so
Speaker 1: well not Larry.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: And then as the doctor is stitching him up, the doctor.
Speaker 2: Drools on Larry, which is really gross. It is really really.
Speaker 3: It is it is, it is. I'm surprised he did that.
Speaker 3: That's not really drooling poop all that stuff. That's he
Speaker 3: really doesn't like gross stuff, and I'm surprised. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So then he's with you when you're saying you have
Speaker 1: any ideas for the anniversary present, and Larry's like, I've
Speaker 1: got three months, my fat friend, and it goes off
Speaker 1: in a whole rick with that's a.
Speaker 3: Couple of things you have to know. First off, he said,
Speaker 3: what I mind? Because he is calling me my fat friend,
Speaker 3: And like I used to say to you all the time,
Speaker 3: go nuts, rip me, call me as a fat fuck,
Speaker 3: call me whatever you want. And I did, I know,
Speaker 3: but you had called me in previous thenes fat fuck,
Speaker 3: and you still felt bad doing it, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: come on, do it. So I said to him, do it.
Speaker 3: And do you know who he was doing? Do you
Speaker 3: know who that was? Who he was imitating?
Speaker 2: It was Carson, wasn't it.
Speaker 3: No, this is where Carson got from. Jackie Gleeson.
Speaker 2: Oh, Jackie Gleeson, Yeah, yes, and the things.
Speaker 3: He was saying, yeah, Jackie Gleeson, that voice comes.
Speaker 2: From yeah, And again did a great impression.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it was really fun.
Speaker 1: And then the wheelchair guy you run into him, and
Speaker 1: Larry says, did you get your wallet? And he says, yeah,
Speaker 1: Joe Anne, who is the Rachel Harris? That was her name, Joeanne.
Speaker 1: Joanne found it. I gave her one hundred dollars. The
Speaker 1: two of you go back to Mel's office and he
Speaker 1: says to Joe Anne, Rachel Harris, I ran into Dennis.
Speaker 2: He gave you one hundred dollars.
Speaker 3: I walk in and just go to the seat. I'm
Speaker 3: not going to be involved with you.
Speaker 1: Well, that's you him, he has to confront her. I
Speaker 1: hear that he gave you one hundred dollars. And then
Speaker 1: Joanne's partner comes in.
Speaker 3: And what's going on. This is the guy that I
Speaker 3: told you, Oh, you got a problem with our lifestyle
Speaker 3: that we want to adopt a baby. No, you need
Speaker 3: a good fucking thinking.
Speaker 2: That's what you need if you want to name our
Speaker 2: baby tang. You think it's good to name a kid
Speaker 2: after a breakfast drink. We don't think that's a good name.
Speaker 2: Do you understand that?
Speaker 3: I understand.
Speaker 1: And she roughs ld up. She just beats the crap
Speaker 1: out of him in a way. You know, she just
Speaker 1: threatens him. And I hear you were complaining about you know,
Speaker 1: it's about us having a baby and blah blah.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. And you could see he's really scared
Speaker 2: of her.
Speaker 3: But she really was great, because she really here's the point.
Speaker 2: You didn't know back hold on.
Speaker 3: You believed he was scared of her.
Speaker 2: It was I was scared of her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was really great.
Speaker 1: So now we enter Mel's office, and sitting there is
Speaker 1: Mel Brooks and Paul Mazerski and Rudy de Luca. Yes,
Speaker 1: now let's tell people who these guys are, because they
Speaker 1: might not know.
Speaker 2: I mean most people should.
Speaker 6: So.
Speaker 1: Rudy de Luca was a great writer. Yes, comedy right,
Speaker 1: he wrote all of Mel's movies with him.
Speaker 3: I wrote, Yeah, wrote, and it was in all of
Speaker 3: them too.
Speaker 2: And he was in a lot of them. And he wrote.
Speaker 1: He wrote a lot of stuff through the years. And
Speaker 1: also an actor, a character actor. And Paul Mazerski was
Speaker 1: an amazing director.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Next up Greenwich Village. Bob and Carroll and Ted and
Speaker 1: Alice Block.
Speaker 3: In Beverly Hill.
Speaker 2: Just a wonderful and by the way, may.
Speaker 3: Also say my mentor he was. He was my mentor
Speaker 3: I had.
Speaker 2: And a lovely man, the.
Speaker 3: Best I had breakfast with him all the time amongst
Speaker 3: other people at the Farmer's Market, a third and Fairfax,
Speaker 3: and every day talk about even when I spent time
Speaker 3: alone with him, he told me a story. The first
Speaker 3: shot of Bob, Carroll, tedan Alice is from a crane
Speaker 3: down on all these people who were at a couples
Speaker 3: not retreat, but and sex went around and I don't
Speaker 3: know what you'd call it back then, and he's he's
Speaker 3: really nervous about shooting his first scene. So his DP says, Paul,
Speaker 3: I need you to see something. They get in the crane.
Speaker 3: They go up and that's where the camera is going
Speaker 3: to be and Paul goes, so what are we looking at?
Speaker 3: He goes nothing, because what what do you mean? He goes,
Speaker 3: you were nervous. Just want to show you. I think
Speaker 3: you'll relax by looking over all of it from up here.
Speaker 3: And he was so warm, well, not intentionally my first movie.
Speaker 3: I want someone to eat cheese with first shot because
Speaker 3: he's a great actor, Mel and I mean Paul and
Speaker 3: he's in a lot of episodes on our show Norm. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and first scene was with him that my first movie
Speaker 3: I ever shot.
Speaker 2: Did that relax you?
Speaker 3: I told him? I go I can't. I said, I'm
Speaker 3: so nervous. I can't. He calmed me down. But how
Speaker 3: about that passing it on?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 2: I love that he died a few years ago. Is
Speaker 2: is still alive. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Look that up I was mel Is Mail is still
Speaker 2: alive and kick.
Speaker 3: Is mel ninety eight or so ninety nine.
Speaker 1: Something way out there. Yeah, so okay. So now Mel
Speaker 1: asked Larry to play Max Bioli stock in The Producers.
Speaker 1: In the New York version, when Nathan Lane leaves, he
Speaker 1: wants Larry to go in and play Max Bioli shop
Speaker 1: or you got it or you ain't.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: He tells a story about Andreas, the guy who played
Speaker 1: Carmen Ghia in the in the Producer's movie.
Speaker 3: And we made the movie of the Producers.
Speaker 8: The guy that played Carmen Gia was this incredible talented
Speaker 8: Greek actor. His name is Andreas, Andreas Fatinas. And Andreas
Speaker 8: used to say to me, or you got it or
Speaker 8: you ain't. I said, Andreas, you can't start a.
Speaker 3: Sentence with war. He said, never mind. Oh you got it?
Speaker 3: Oi you ate? You got it? Larry, you got it? Larry,
Speaker 3: you got it. Mister mister Brooks is right, my friend,
Speaker 3: you got it.
Speaker 1: Or you got it or you And he tells him
Speaker 1: that Ben Stiller will be playing Leo Leo Bloom.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 1: And he says, come to the show tonight. And Larry's like,
Speaker 1: is this candid camera? I keep thinking Alan Funt is
Speaker 1: gonna walk in or something. He can't believe that he's
Speaker 1: being offered this part, and you guys leave and Paul
Speaker 1: Mazarski Norman says.
Speaker 3: And by the way, I say to Mel, he's gonna
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 2: He's gonna do it.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, sure, well you are because as a
Speaker 1: manager you are his biggest fan.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and you you are. You know, is a
Speaker 2: home run.
Speaker 3: He's going to do it, which leads to Paul mask
Speaker 3: who we've seen getting angrier and angrier. And then what
Speaker 3: does Paul say?
Speaker 2: Giant mistake. Yeah, this is a giant mistake.
Speaker 1: He says, you had zero, Nathan, you had zero Mustelle,
Speaker 1: Nathan Lane, Jason, Alexander, and Larry David, which is.
Speaker 3: A worthy question, by the way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll be right back. Stay tied. Okay, we're back.
Speaker 1: And then we are at the theater. It seats seat
Speaker 1: M four and M five. I thought that was hilarious
Speaker 1: that Mel threw that in what seats?
Speaker 3: They were, Oh, you're right, right, right, right right.
Speaker 1: And Larry wants to take a painkiller because his head
Speaker 1: is hurting him, you know, from the gash he got,
Speaker 1: and Cheryl's like, won't you get tired?
Speaker 2: Bah bah, And then.
Speaker 1: Across the lobby they see Ben Stiller and his wife
Speaker 1: Christine Taylor.
Speaker 3: First off, in the background, I see and I'm not sure,
Speaker 3: but I'm pretty sure Marissa Winnaker, which.
Speaker 2: Tells you I didn't notice that.
Speaker 3: No, I'll tell you why. She was probably there. She
Speaker 3: was probably at the theater because we didn't shoot inside
Speaker 3: that theater. We shot inside a different theater. Hairspray had
Speaker 3: to have been playing there with her.
Speaker 2: Marissa Whittaker was in the show.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, she was the elevator. Speaking of shining, speaking
Speaker 3: of signing it, wrested Larry wrestling Marissa was pretty awesome.
Speaker 3: H And so I start in the background. Now the
Speaker 3: other thing is and this is La. So Larry is
Speaker 3: miffed at who he wants to play opposite him and
Speaker 3: the producers. He's like this, that.
Speaker 2: And the and the show in the.
Speaker 3: Show he wants to know and he names famous people's names.
Speaker 3: The night before, I'm at the Egyptian Theater in Hollywood
Speaker 3: seeing some old movie and Ben's there with Christine, and
Speaker 3: I say to Ben, Ben goes, the show's great. Then
Speaker 3: I go, would you ever want to do it? Because
Speaker 3: I know he's a great improviser. Would you ever want
Speaker 3: to be in the show? He goes, I'd love to
Speaker 3: be on the show. So the next day I go
Speaker 3: into work and I go, Larry ben Stiller, do you
Speaker 3: think you'd do it? Oh? I know, do it and
Speaker 3: the rest and he.
Speaker 2: Was a great I was great casting, right.
Speaker 1: So Larry tells him that he was offered Max and
Speaker 1: Ben is non plus.
Speaker 5: A little.
Speaker 3: Actually offered, yeah, really offered.
Speaker 1: In the I know are you guys just going because
Speaker 1: it's it took him a long time to make this decision.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, we.
Speaker 3: Won you act?
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, And he's saying, I don't do anything really really,
Speaker 9: they'll have to teach me, right.
Speaker 3: He saw me in a karaoke bar.
Speaker 5: Wow, you're working with me, right, No, it's true, but
Speaker 5: I'm still thinking about it. I haven't made up my mind.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well you should think about it.
Speaker 1: And he's like, well you can act, you could sing, uh,
Speaker 1: he said, And then it took Ben a long time
Speaker 1: to make up his mind and Larry just decided immediately
Speaker 1: ready to getting off to the wrong foot. And then
Speaker 1: and Ben sneezes into his hand. Then they part because
Speaker 1: the show is going to start, and Larry pats him
Speaker 1: on the back. He won't shake his hand, which I
Speaker 1: think is completely reasonable.
Speaker 3: Well, by the way, I had the reverse app and
Speaker 3: so I know it's reasonable. Meaning what one of James's
Speaker 3: friends when he was very little, mother I loved, father
Speaker 3: not so crazy. We went over to their house shook
Speaker 3: my hand. And the reason Larry didn't shake is what
Speaker 3: happened to me handful snot and I know a lot,
Speaker 3: and I was like, how could he do that to me?
Speaker 3: How can he do this?
Speaker 2: Disgusting?
Speaker 3: So anyhow, when you say reasonable, I know reasonable more
Speaker 3: than I'm sorry to even tell that story.
Speaker 2: But Cheryl says, what's wrong with you? You didn't shake his hand?
Speaker 1: And then we see they're watching the Producers and it's
Speaker 1: Lewis J. Stadlin is playing Max. Now, let me tell
Speaker 1: you about Louis and me. Lewis and I go way back.
Speaker 1: Lewis's father, who was a voiceover like aficionado.
Speaker 2: He did when we were kids. He did all the cartoons.
Speaker 1: He was Odi Kelodi, he was did Underdog Simon bal Sinister.
Speaker 1: He was a major voiceover gard I did a million commercials.
Speaker 1: His father, Iras Stadlin, was my mother's boyfriend in high school.
Speaker 2: Lewis J.
Speaker 1: Stadlin's father, and they stayed friends so he was like
Speaker 1: an uncle to me, and he always took me under
Speaker 1: his wing and was amazing to me. So I've known
Speaker 1: Lewis my whole life. And there was Lewis playing Max
Speaker 1: Reali Stock in the la version of The Producers, and
Speaker 1: Don Stevenson was playing Leo. And then Larry's getting really tired.
Speaker 1: He took the painkiller and he's getting really tired, and
Speaker 1: he yawns and Cheryl whispers to him, which this whole part.
Speaker 1: They're having a whole conversation in the middle of the show,
Speaker 1: which was weird.
Speaker 3: But by the way, I think, hold on though, that
Speaker 3: happens in every show, no matter how well written, no
Speaker 3: matter how poorly written, no matter how serious not serious.
Speaker 3: People talk in the theater in television.
Speaker 2: I don't well, and I had with my husband.
Speaker 3: He starts sit in the last row generally in movies
Speaker 3: because I don't want to hear anyone behind me.
Speaker 1: I agree, And I also don't like to feel anyone
Speaker 1: behind me, not just here. I don't like anybody behind me.
Speaker 1: I always sit in the last row. By you and
Speaker 1: I are oddly compatible, Jeffrey.
Speaker 3: Well, people, we said this before, whereas close as can be,
Speaker 3: and we love each other, which is so the opposite
Speaker 3: of what people think. But I wanted to say something.
Speaker 3: I went look at my notes.
Speaker 1: They're talking in the movie in the movie theater okay, yes,
Speaker 1: not movie there, but the theater theater Broadway, you know,
Speaker 1: live theater, and Cheryl says, how about our tenth anniversary present.
Speaker 1: Larry's like, it's fine if you want to get out
Speaker 1: of it, and she's like, I don't want to get
Speaker 1: out of it, but there are ground rules. It's one
Speaker 1: time only, and the deadline is our anniversary at midnight,
Speaker 1: and Larry tells her that if he decides to do
Speaker 1: the Producers, opening night is their anniversary, right, and he says,
Speaker 1: maybe I'll do the show.
Speaker 3: Well, by the way he says that after he sees Katie.
Speaker 1: Katie Huffman as what's the Katie Huffman who plays but
Speaker 1: she plays the Swedish secretary.
Speaker 3: She got her name, Yeah, she's a tall drink of watery.
Speaker 1: Tall drink of water, tall drink of sexy water. And
Speaker 1: he sees Katie Huffman, He's like, maybe I'll do the show.
Speaker 1: She'll be my anniversary present. And then he falls asleep
Speaker 1: and he drools on Philip baker Hole's head.
Speaker 3: And he looks up and we shot it to where
Speaker 3: Larry is over the edge, so Philip baker Hall can.
Speaker 1: See like Larry's on the mezzanine right and that, and
Speaker 1: Philip baker Hole is in the in the orchestra.
Speaker 3: I have a memory of shooting that. We shot it.
Speaker 3: We're moving to the next location. We're a bit of
Speaker 3: ways from this theater, which was a downtown theater, and
Speaker 3: Larry realized he didn't have the bandageohn the whole scene,
Speaker 3: the whole thing. We had to go back and reshoot everything.
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know from the jet go.
Speaker 3: So was another okay, two hours that cost us.
Speaker 1: By the way, there are two people whose responsibility that is.
Speaker 1: One is the makeup person who's putting that on on him,
Speaker 1: and the other is the script person, who's the script supervisor.
Speaker 3: By the way, we had I believe she was a
Speaker 3: substitute because we've had a couple genius ones like I
Speaker 3: don't know how they pull it off.
Speaker 1: Like I go, wow, well, especially for our show, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's just tell the audience what they do because some
Speaker 1: people don't know. Script supervisor generally takes care of continuity,
Speaker 1: like exactly what you just said was my leg on
Speaker 1: the rise of So we're shooting a scene and I
Speaker 1: might be like this, and then the next scene I
Speaker 1: don't remember that I was like this, and I'm like this,
Speaker 1: and it's not going to match when we start cutting.
Speaker 1: So that that's their job is to make sure that,
Speaker 1: among other things, they have a difficult, very difficult job,
Speaker 1: and they have to be incredibly focused and concentrated on
Speaker 1: every takes. It's a hard job, and we have had
Speaker 1: some wonderful people. That day you said we had a substitute,
Speaker 1: I believed and we know that they actually.
Speaker 3: I believe got fired in the next week or two,
Speaker 3: because that's that's about a bad mistake because that costs
Speaker 3: a lot of money and.
Speaker 2: We already know we know all about makeup at that.
Speaker 3: But I also want to say this, and this is
Speaker 3: something that I believe Francis Ford Coppola said this Coppola
Speaker 3: Coppola continuity is for pussies, and I completely agree, because
Speaker 3: if your note like people notice a microphone, but I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, a boom, but it goes out of the way.
Speaker 3: You don't want that because that takes.
Speaker 1: You out, or or not having the bandage. That's egregious,
Speaker 1: very egregious.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's an a great so all based on But I'm
Speaker 3: talking about physical things that can.
Speaker 2: Hold on Sondra out.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I told this story to I
Speaker 3: said Larry, we're about to shoot, Larry needs his makeup done,
Speaker 3: and we're in the middle of the scene. And she
Speaker 3: walks out in the middle of the scene and starts
Speaker 3: poking on Larry, and the look on Larry's face and
Speaker 3: everyone and everyone know it, knew it had to be me.
Speaker 3: But by the way, continuities for pussies because in the scene,
Speaker 3: finger this side, finger that side, doesn't matter if they're
Speaker 3: engrossed in the thing.
Speaker 1: So unless it's unless it's something that's egregious, because that
Speaker 1: could be distracting and take you out of the scene.
Speaker 1: And that has happened to me in in movies where
Speaker 1: I noticed something. I'm just like, it takes me out
Speaker 1: of the scene. It's too startling and jarring. But a
Speaker 1: leg cross the wrong way, I could care that.
Speaker 3: The way you hold your elbow is also The.
Speaker 1: Other thing is also eye line, which is which is
Speaker 1: a major and very important. By the way, eye line
Speaker 1: is very important because if like a lot of times.
Speaker 1: We'll a scene. I'm just explaining this for the audience,
Speaker 1: not for you. We'll do a scene where I'm looking
Speaker 1: at you, but instead of looking at you when we're
Speaker 1: shooting the scene, I have to look to the left
Speaker 1: of you or to the right of you or whatever
Speaker 1: so that the eye line for the camera is correct.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: And that's important to me because when I see eye
Speaker 1: lines off, it throws me.
Speaker 3: And by the way, every day of shooting we have
Speaker 3: that where you're talking to me, but the camera is
Speaker 3: right next to me and you have to look at
Speaker 3: the camera. So that way makes sense on the thing.
Speaker 3: But that's the dp's job, that's the script supervisor's job,
Speaker 3: and the directors, the three of.
Speaker 1: Them, and that's the magic, the magic of films.
Speaker 3: Did they cross the line?
Speaker 2: So we will see you next time?
Speaker 1: Yes for season four, episode two, which is a very
Speaker 1: funny episode, and we'll be back.
Speaker 7: Yes, Yes, Bye bye.
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