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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Saber Protection of iHeartRadio. I'm Annie Reese.

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Speaker 2: And I'm Lauren Vogelbaum, and today we have an episode

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Speaker 2: for you about Ramine.

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Speaker 1: Right, which was an idea that you had based on

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Speaker 1: a love that super producer Andrew has and a suggestion

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Speaker 1: he sent once because it's his birthday belated but.

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Speaker 2: Birthday month. Yeah, happy birthday birthday.

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Speaker 1: We went to his party. We did the thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I gave him a glow stick, very ceremoniously, as I

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Speaker 1: love to do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, glow sticks are heck and ceremonious.

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Speaker 1: It was very ceremonious, out of nowhere, one might say.

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Speaker 1: But yes, happy birthday. Huge part of the show.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, happy to have you. Literally couldn't do it

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Speaker 2: without you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Yes, this is something I didn't

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Speaker 1: know anything about until he requested it several months or

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Speaker 1: maybe even a year ago, who knows. But I have

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Speaker 1: seen it since I've seen it. I went to H

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Speaker 1: March and I saw it there, and then I saw

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Speaker 1: it on a menu recently when I was ordering sushi.

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Speaker 1: I saw that they.

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Speaker 2: Had they okay, all right, but I've never had it. Wow, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean it's soda isn't really a large part of

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Speaker 2: either of our lives. But this one, this one is nice.

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Speaker 2: It holds a certain amount of nostalgia for me. And

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Speaker 2: it's just so blue, you know, not real, you don't know. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's not all that blue. Actually, it's it's clear to

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Speaker 2: mildly blue. So that yeah.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well you can see our soda episode.

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Speaker 2: Or our lemonade episode, both of those intersect here.

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Speaker 1: This is true. But okay, that brings us to our question. Ramenee,

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Speaker 1: what is it? Well?

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Speaker 2: Ramine is a style of soda pop that comes in

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Speaker 2: a bunch of different flavors and packaging formats, but the

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Speaker 2: classic is this like lemon, lime plus something flavor that

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Speaker 2: comes in glass bottles that are sealed with a marble

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Speaker 2: in gasket configuration instead of the now more common bottle cap.

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Speaker 2: It's a sweet like a little tart, fairly mild in flavor,

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Speaker 2: nicely fizzy. The kitch of the bottle is really part

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Speaker 2: of the fun. That that glass marble is held in

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Speaker 2: position with the gasket by the pressure of the carbonation

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Speaker 2: inside the bottle. So each bottle is packaged with a

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Speaker 2: device that you use to force the ceiling marble down

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Speaker 2: into the bottle where it's caught by a sort of

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Speaker 2: a dimple or pocket like in the bottleneck. The drink

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Speaker 2: is meant to be like fun and summary and like

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Speaker 2: maybe mostly for kids and or a nostalgic older audience.

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Speaker 2: It's a treat at like festivals and picnics and on vacation,

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Speaker 2: especially in the summer. It's like if if sprite or

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Speaker 2: seven up was was a generic term and it was

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Speaker 2: advertised more like Coca cola. Okay, it's like if a

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Speaker 2: snow cone or a soda it's sweet and simple, like

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Speaker 2: a like Sepia tone in drink format. But but don't

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Speaker 2: don't drink sepi atone.

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Speaker 1: No. No, you can metaphorically drink it.

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Speaker 2: In but otherwise yeah, yeah, not physically, don't don't recommend. No.

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Speaker 2: A side note, y'all. If there's weird construction noise in

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Speaker 2: the background of this one, I uh, that's kind of happening,

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Speaker 2: and it sounds like maybe there is a herd from

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Speaker 2: Jurassic Park in my backyard, but it's not. It's just

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Speaker 2: a construction crew.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: I haven't checked yet in this minute, but.

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Speaker 1: That word territory.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, you're correct, Okay, all right, anyway, back to ramene. Okay, So,

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Speaker 2: so it is this interesting phenomenon because the term ramene

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Speaker 2: refers to this specific like smooth, sparkling lemonade sort of flavor,

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Speaker 2: and it's also grown to refer to the specific bottle type.

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Speaker 2: But that means that ramene can be packaged in other

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Speaker 2: types of vessels, and you've got flavors of ramene other

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Speaker 2: than that classic lemonade ish thing. Yeah. That plus something

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Speaker 2: or ish flavor that I keep referring to is a

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Speaker 2: little bit hard to explain or pin down. It's sort

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Speaker 2: of something like fruity or bubble gummy or maybe like

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Speaker 2: the classic flavor is often tinted light blue, or will

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Speaker 2: in shades of light blue. Other flavors are often differentiated

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Speaker 2: through other colors. Several drink companies produce romine style sodas,

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Speaker 2: including Sangaria, Kimoda Drink and Hatta Kosen, and there are

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Speaker 2: also local varieties sold as torust items. And there are

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Speaker 2: properties like Naututo or Hello Kitty if you couldn't tell

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Speaker 2: this product is from Japan. Other than the classic, flavors

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Speaker 2: do vary pretty wildly. They're mostly a pleasant fruity things,

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Speaker 2: light chi, coconut, banana, pineapple, that sort of thing. But

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Speaker 2: there's also been like macha salted watermelon, chocolate, chili, curry, kimchi, taki, yuki,

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Speaker 2: yucky soba, French fries, fringe fries.

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Speaker 1: Right, okay, I don't even know.

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Speaker 2: Let us know if you've tried it. Oh, absolutely, Oh

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Speaker 2: my goodness, yes, okay. The bottles themselves are also known

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Speaker 2: as cod bottles, after their creator. More on that in

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Speaker 2: the history. But let's talk about the science here. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So right, these bottles are sealed not with a bottle cap,

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Speaker 2: but with a glass marble that fits securely into part

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Speaker 2: of a plastic cap or a rubber gasket that's fitted

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Speaker 2: inside the bottle's lip. And this only works with carbonated drinks. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So you put the marble in the bottle, then you

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Speaker 2: fill it with soda, then attach the cap or gasket

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Speaker 2: then you quickly flip the bottle upside down and the

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Speaker 2: pressure from the carbonation will force the marble into the

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Speaker 2: gasket and like stick it there.

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Speaker 1: Cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And in order to get it out, each bottle

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Speaker 2: comes package with a little like plastic plunger piece like

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Speaker 2: an open cylinder that has a flat cap across one side.

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Speaker 2: So you place the open end down on the marble

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Speaker 2: and it'll just fit around it, and then press down

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Speaker 2: with your palm on the flat end and with enough

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Speaker 2: pressure you can pop the marble down into the bottle's neck.

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Speaker 2: The neck is pinched or like bubbled out to keep

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Speaker 2: and there are little indentations in one side of that

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Speaker 2: tip it up to drink. Yeah, it's a little bit.

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Speaker 2: It's a little bit of a game though, Yeah, little

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And furthermore, because manufacturers know that you probably want to

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Speaker 2: get that marble out, some Ramenee bottles are made with

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Speaker 2: the gasket formed into like a screw on plastic cap,

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Speaker 2: so you can just unscrew it when you're done and

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Speaker 1: Oh, I bet people have collections.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh they do, Oh they do. And there's also

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Speaker 2: like intact antique cod bottles are something of a rarity

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Speaker 2: people theorize because kids just smashed them to get it.

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Speaker 2: The marbles so often.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yep, that makes sense to me.

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Speaker 2: The classic flavor, though, is also sometimes available in plastic

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Speaker 2: bottles or like aluminum bottles or cans, and if you're

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Speaker 2: of the bottle, preferably chilled first, or serve it like

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Speaker 2: over ice, or mix it into cocktails. Ramene is also

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Speaker 2: a popular flavor for like candies of various kinds, personal

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Speaker 2: care products like toothpaste, and winds up in other itners,

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Speaker 2: for example like limited edition McDonald's milkshakes, which it did

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Speaker 2: in Japan in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Mmmm okay, okay, Well what about the nutrition, Oh.

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Speaker 2: Soda is a treat.

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Speaker 1: Soda?

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Speaker 2: Soda is solidly a treat. Treats are nice, Yep, treats

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Speaker 2: are nice. Well, we have a couple of numbers for you,

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Speaker 2: some two thousand, three hundred romine production facilities throughout Japan.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: I think as of twenty twenty one there were only

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Speaker 2: thirty three left of those five exported to other countries

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Speaker 2: Akosen out of Osaka, can bottle sixty five thousand units

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they've got a fan base, a super

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Speaker 1: producer Andrew. Yes. But there is quite a history into

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Speaker 1: how they got this fan base.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, and we are going to get into that

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Speaker 2: history as soon as we get back from a quick

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Speaker 2: break forward from our sponsors.

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Speaker 1: And we're back.

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Speaker 2: Thank you sponsors, Yes, thank you. Okay. As we've talked

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Speaker 2: about before on the show, people have been pretty excited

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Speaker 2: about sparkling water forever, but Europeans specifically, and perhaps the

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Speaker 2: French extra specifically, were really excited about sparkling lemonade in

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Speaker 2: the sixteen hundreds. At that time and in that region,

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Speaker 2: lemons were like just becoming vaguely affordable, and chemists were

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Speaker 2: just figuring out how to produce and bottle carbonated water.

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Speaker 2: The first marketed soft drink was a sparkling lemonade in

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Speaker 2: It sounds a powphl to me. But legend has it

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Speaker 2: and things were very tense for just a second until

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Speaker 2: they realized that it was a delicious drink and they

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Speaker 1: Could have gone a lot worse, that is at BacT true.

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Speaker 1: But yes, yes, when it comes to ramine specifically, most

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Speaker 1: sources suggest that it was invented in Kobe, Japan in

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Speaker 1: the nineteenth century by Scottish pharmacist Alexander Cameron sim His

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Speaker 1: original idea was based on lemonade, so it goes the name.

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Speaker 1: According to some sources, he missed lemonade and he wanted

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Speaker 1: and back a bit into his life, the story goes

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Speaker 1: that he joined the British Royal Navy in eighteen sixty six.

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Speaker 1: He was first posted in Hong Kong, but then was

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Speaker 1: relocated to Japan and Nagasaki, which was a very important

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and carbonated lemonade had been imported through Nagasaki for

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Speaker 1: Right. And as trade opened after a period of strict

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Speaker 1: He saw an opportunity, especially after he began working for

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, a businessman in Tokyo may have begun selling a

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Speaker 1: And when ramine was released, it was called Mabu soda

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Speaker 1: They were back. Thank you sponsor, Yes, thank you, and

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Speaker 1: So a lot of you have written in about hallooi

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Speaker 2: Of those things sound really beautiful. Oh my gosh, Hallumi

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Speaker 1: I do think you're so right. Sometimes you're so caught

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Speaker 2: Yeah? How can I times?

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Speaker 1: Oh, Lauren, you've got it on that. You gotta get

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Speaker 2: shall continue. Because Paul wrote, Hi, Laurena and Annie, imagine

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Speaker 2: All of those things sound delicious. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: It does. Oh my gosh. Well, thanks for the cravings. Yeah.

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