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All right, let's get 20 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: into this bonus episode, Hey Disco, need a little more 21 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: Disgraceland in your life, just to touch, to get you through. 22 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: Yeah me too. This is the podcast that comes after 23 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland. The after Party. Welcome to 24 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: the Disgraceland bonus episode, a little thing we like to 25 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: call the after party. This is the show after the show, 26 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: the party after the party of the bridge to get 27 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, 28 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: the backyard to dig into the dirt. On this episode, 29 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: we are talking about our classic April Fool's episode on 30 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: John Denver. The sources we used for this episode which 31 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: helped us uncover a crazy story about how the guy 32 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: who sang take Me Home, Country Roads may have taken 33 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: a dark secret to his grave. Not really, but sir, 34 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: and of course your voicemails, text, dms and more, and 35 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: as always, a whole lot of rosie. All right, disc goes, 36 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: Let's get into it. November twenty second, nineteen sixty three, 37 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: September twenty seventh, nineteen sixty four, December twentieth, nineteen ninety one. 38 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: What are all three of those dates have in common? 39 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: If you answered the loss of American trust in its institutions, 40 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: then ding ding Ding, you are going to win a prize. 41 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: November twenty second, nineteen sixty three, was, of course, the 42 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: date that President John F. Kennedy was assassinated. September twenty seventh, 43 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty four was the date that the Warrant Commission's 44 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: report was made available to the public, where on a 45 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: panel of seven public officials declared that the gunman, Lee 46 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: Harvey Oswald acted entirely alone when he shot President Kennedy. 47 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: And December twentieth, nineteen ninety one, was, of course the 48 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: date that Oliver Stone released his masterpiece JFK, a film 49 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: that presents New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison's theory on 50 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: the assassination that directly refutes the Warren Commission's findings. The 51 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: murder of the thirty fifth President of the United States 52 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: was captured on film famously, and once the horrifying image 53 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: of his death and of his glamorous wife scrambling over 54 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: the back of their open air Lincoln continentals to gather 55 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: bits of his exploding brains. Once that incredible imagery faded, 56 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: we were left able to further analyze the assassination in 57 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: comparison with what our government was presenting as fact. That 58 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: one gunman was responsible for this awful event, and that 59 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: he was perched above the president when he shot his 60 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: antiquated single bolt action rifle, and that even though he 61 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: was positioned behind the president, his bullet entered the President's 62 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: body from the front, forcing it, as Jerry Seinfeld said 63 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: to America repeatedly on February twelve, nineteen ninety two, back 64 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: into the Left, a phrase also that the band Texas 65 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: Is the Reason would later nail in song on their 66 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: album do You Know Who You Are? In nineteen ninety six, 67 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: and by the time most of us were rather born 68 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: or old enough to be consuming and understanding pop culture, 69 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: it was a well known fact that not only was 70 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: Lee Harvey Oswald not the lone gunman, but that our 71 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: government lied to us about it with the Warren Report, 72 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: and that they continue to lie to us about the 73 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: murder of what could have been our most transformative leader. 74 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: And to take it even further, it's a likely fact 75 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: that not only did our government lie to us about 76 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: this event, they were likely responsible for it. Two of 77 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: these three things the government lying about JFK's killer, the 78 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: government continuing to lie to us about JFK's killer. These 79 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: are facts. The third thing the government being responsible for 80 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: the murder that as of yet has not been irrefutably proven. 81 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,239 Speaker 1: But let's be real. Even though we don't have video 82 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: proof of it like we do to dispute the lone 83 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: gunman theory, the facts get us to about ninety percent 84 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: certainty that the CIA worked with the MATH and likely 85 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: other interested parties to successfully pull off an American kupdeta. 86 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: But at this point in my life this is less 87 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,679 Speaker 1: interesting to me than the fact that the American government 88 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: asked us to disbelieve our own eyes. Pay no attention 89 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: to what you see in that footage of the president 90 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: being killed, No believe what we tell you. Instead. Many 91 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: of us didn't, of course, see Oliver Stone and pretty 92 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: much anyone born after the World War two generation. But 93 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: almost all of us are compliant. What are we going 94 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: to do? Not trust the government is what we're going 95 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: to do. They lied to us, then they lied to 96 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: us about Vietnam and Cambodia afterward, and Iran Contra and 97 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: weapons of mass destruction, And they lied to us over 98 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: and over again throughout the last three administrations. And it 99 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: doesn't matter who our leaders are in the future, our 100 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: government will continue to lie to us, and we will 101 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: continue to not have faith in our biggest, most powerful institution. 102 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: That is old news. That's interesting, but it's not super 103 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: interesting to me, I get it. What is very interesting 104 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: to me, and given my age and my generation, is 105 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: that there ever was even a time at all when 106 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: people did trust the government. That is kind of shocking 107 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: to think of. I think how cynical that is. By 108 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: the way, that most people won't believe you if you 109 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: tell them that between the years after World War Two 110 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: and before the Kennedy assassination, that America existed in relative 111 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: consensus and that the majority of Americans trusted the government 112 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: as much, if not more, than any other institution. How 113 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: cynical is it that I can't even really imagine that time. 114 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: I can't even really fathom it. It's hard for me 115 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,679 Speaker 1: to believe. And we have the jfk assassination to thank 116 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: for this lack of trust, and personally, this lack of 117 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: trust is what makes it possible for some dickhead like 118 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: me to tell you a story that is wildly unbelievable, 119 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: a story that musician John Denver was the most decorated 120 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: sniper in American military history, and that he was one 121 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: of the other gunmen besides it's Oswald on that day 122 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: in Dallas in sixty three, and that you guys believed 123 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: that craziness even though at the beginning of the episode, 124 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: I state right there that the episode you're about to 125 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: hear is satire, yet still you believed it. Still I 126 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: got you, almost all of you, of course, And that 127 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: this story, even when stripped of ninety percent of its 128 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: context and boiled down into a seventy five second reel 129 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: on Instagram, that it's still got people. Don't feel bad. 130 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: I believe this unbelievable story too when I first heard it. 131 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: It's almost as if we've all been trained to not 132 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: believe our own eyes, just like the government asked us 133 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: to do with the Warren Commission. 134 00:07:40,760 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 2: I'll be back in a flash. 135 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: All right. You might be asking yourself, you know, why 136 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: did I believe this story? Or you might be sitting 137 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: there going, oh, we thought you made up this story 138 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: about John Denver being a decorated sniper in an assassin 139 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: in the JFK assassination. I'm gonna give you a little 140 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: background here on how this story came to be. What's true, 141 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: what's not true, The reason this story is actually believable 142 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: in such a great April fool's joke is that parts 143 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: of it are legitimately true. Now I heard the fact 144 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: about the part about him being the most decorated sniper 145 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: in the history of the American military. That part of 146 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: the story I did not make up. That was an 147 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: old wives tale. I don't know where I heard it. 148 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: I probably heard it at a party in high school 149 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: or in college and sort of the pre ubiquity of 150 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: the internet era, and it was just one of those 151 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: things that you couldn't disprove in the moment before you know, 152 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: cell phones and all that, but you know it is 153 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: out there. If you google John Denver Sniper, you will 154 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: get returns that are, of course not correct information. It's 155 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: just this wild conspiracy theory. It's meant to be a gag. 156 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: It's not meant to be any sort of harmful thing, 157 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 1: and it's a fascinating, fascinating conspiracy story. It's one that is, just, 158 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: like I said, so unbelievable that it makes you want 159 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: to kind of believe it. However, the reason that it's 160 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: so unbelievable is that there are truth to John Denver's 161 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: background that support this story. His father was in the 162 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: Air Force. John Denver did grow up an Air Force, 163 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: an Air Force brat. I believe his father was one 164 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: of the first, like the first class of Air Force 165 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: when the Air Force was established post World War Two. 166 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: His father was one of the first airmen. I believe. 167 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: I believe that to be true. I could be wrong, 168 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: but like I said, that part of the story is true. 169 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: So I thought, Okay, how do I research John Denver 170 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: and how do I go into his past and how 171 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: do I figure out find other elements, true elements of 172 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: his story that can help support this incredible narrative that 173 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: he was an assassin, and not just an assassin in Vietnam, 174 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: but perhaps an assassin in the JFK assassination, because again 175 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: to the truth of it, you know, there were multiple 176 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: gunmen who shot at JFK, and there are you know, 177 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: e Howard Hunt, who I mentioned in the story, is 178 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: rumored to have been one of them, although I don't 179 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: necessarily believe that. I believe he was there that day, 180 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 1: and there may in fact be images of him being 181 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: arrested on that day, but I don't think he was 182 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 1: actually one of the gunmen. Was he was little that 183 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: was a little bit below his pay grades. So the 184 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: question of who the gunmen were besides Oswald remains, and 185 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: there's of different theories. There were there were Corsicans who 186 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: were flown in by the mafia, but there's also the 187 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: theory that they were they were military men. C I A, Well, 188 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,599 Speaker 1: that's the theory that I believe. I believe it was 189 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: a mix. So you know, why not John Denver anyways, 190 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: and there's there's so that's you know that part of 191 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: it is true too from the JFK perspective, right, that 192 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: there were these multiple snipers. I think you can't look 193 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: at the the evidence of JFK's assassination, like I said 194 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: earlier in the B Block and walk away thinking that 195 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: there was only one gunman. So if it's true that 196 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: there were multiple, it stands the reason I guess, in 197 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: some fantastical alternate reality, that John Denver was one of them. 198 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: Now there's other pieces, obviously. I tell the story of 199 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: John Denver as a musician, UH in his coming up 200 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: and his coming up on the West Coast sort of 201 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: folks scene. The difference between the folks scene in the 202 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: West Coast from the folks scene in the East Coast. 203 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: UH him coming up with David Crosby and the Birds, 204 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: and that beef between John Denver and David Crosby that 205 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: actually happened. That was true, That was real. 206 00:11:59,640 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: Uh. 207 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: The bit about John Denver chainsawing his bed in half 208 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: for his wife, that is true as well. That is 209 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: something that I uncovered in my research of John Denver, 210 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: and that flies right in the face of who John 211 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 1: Denver was, and if we were doing it just a 212 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: straight John Denver story, that unbelievable, holy shit moment would 213 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: definitely be part of it. John Denver did actually die 214 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: in a plane crash his own plane. He did not 215 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: allow himself to crash, to overcome his guilt and his 216 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: shame and to put an end to and all that. 217 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,599 Speaker 1: Of course I made up and was part of the 218 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: April Fools joke. So you know some of the sources 219 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: here that I used going to get into these It's 220 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: been a long time this episode came out. It was 221 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: the second or third year of the show of the podcast. 222 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: I can't remember. It came out a couple of years ago. 223 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: I think it came out in twoenty twenty if memory serves, 224 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: And I don't really have a lot of strong insight 225 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 1: into these research sources here. I simply have the list. 226 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: Let me see if anything jogs my memory is I 227 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: read them John Denver, Okay, yeah, John Denver, The Untold 228 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: Story of a Vietnam Sniper by Loretta's Spilt. This must 229 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: be the article that I that I found on the 230 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: Internet that that kind of makes the case that he 231 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: was a Vietnam sniper. That is just you know, false 232 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: Rocky Mountain, high priced home. That's where I get the 233 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: details on John Denver's massive seven thousand square foot Aspen mansion. 234 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: Had to do a lot of research into how snipers 235 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: actually work, because I don't understand any of that now. 236 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: At the time that this episode came out, there was 237 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: this time in modern American history where there are all 238 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: these JFK documents that were set to be released and 239 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: Trump looked at when he was president. He looked at 240 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: some of them and he was like, Nope, I'm not 241 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: not releasing these. And I was like, ah, I can 242 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: use that. I can use that as part of the story, 243 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: again using the truth to help tell the fantasy. I 244 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: did a lot of research on cias their kill squads. 245 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: There was an article I read called the CIA's Worldwide 246 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: kill Squads by Roy Norton. You want to learn more 247 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 1: about that Trump and the JFK assassination files, There was 248 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: an article called Trump holds some JFK assassination files back 249 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: set's new three year deadline. I'm sure we've passed that 250 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: three year deadline since then, and they still haven't been released. 251 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: I did read a John Denver biography, and I don't 252 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: have it listed here in my list of sources, and 253 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: I'm not sure I'm not sure which that was. Excuse me, 254 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what that was. Which book that was? 255 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: So just you know, the thing that makes this John 256 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: Denver think so believable is who John Denver was as 257 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: a character. He was this very docile, peaceful, just kind 258 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: of chill guy. He wasn't quite a hippie, but he 259 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: was like a He was of the hippie generation, someone that, 260 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: you know, the hippie's parents could get be behind. You know, 261 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: John Denver two. It's worth mentioning here. You know, we 262 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: probably because he died and he didn't get to really 263 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: maintain his own legacy and cultivate it, we I think 264 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: we've forgotten just how famous and popular he was. He 265 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: was literally one of like a handful, like top five 266 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: most famous entertainers on the planet in the nineteen seventies, 267 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: like it was him, Sinatra and Elvis, maybe Barbara streisand 268 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: and I don't know, perhaps Robert Redford in the seventies. 269 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of who would fill that fifth slot. 270 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: But he was that big and just totally mainstream TV specials, 271 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: huge albums year after year after year, massive singles, and 272 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: I gotta say, I don't really like any of it. 273 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: I am not a John Denver fan. I know because 274 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: of his fame and his cultural impact that a lot 275 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: of you are, and that's cool, but just never spoke 276 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: to me on any level at all. Really, I just 277 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: thought he was Even as a kid watching him on 278 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: the Muppets, I didn't think he was particularly interesting, But 279 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: you know him as a sniper in Vietnam I'm in Anyways, 280 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: he was huge. That's the point I'm trying to make massive, 281 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: wildly famous, and that that was a point I wanted 282 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: to make, and I'm not sure I really did. I 283 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: wanted to get that across. It's hard for people who 284 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: were younger to truly understand just how popular he was, 285 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: but his vibe his image was this real kind of 286 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: like peaceful, pastful environment pacifist excuse me, environmentalists, and you know, 287 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: and that's what makes it makes the story so compelling 288 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: that he was a sniper. Another interesting sidebar here is 289 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: that the same rumor exists about mister Rogers, he too 290 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: rumored who had been a sniper. The reason that he 291 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: always wore those long sleeved cardigans supposedly was to hide 292 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: all his tattoos for the war. But you know that 293 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: never happened, all right, clearly, perhaps again, this is an 294 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: April Fools thing. We re released it this year. It's 295 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: been a couple of years since it first came out. 296 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: I got a bunch of you new listeners. I'm thankful 297 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: that you're here. Please forgive me. It's probably also worth 298 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: mentioning that we've we've done another April Fools episode. It's 299 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: in the archive. I'm not going to mention about what 300 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: it is, but it's there and you might stumble upon 301 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: it in the archive, and if you do, go easy 302 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: on me. I'm just playing. Not everything has to be 303 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: super serious and super dark, and I think you know 304 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,239 Speaker 1: that about me. Six one seven nine oh six six 305 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: six three eight to let me know, either on voicemail 306 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: or text, what you thought of the John Denver episode, 307 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: or really just to catch up on anything. Six one 308 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: seven nine oh six six six three eight I'm here 309 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: for We asked a lot. I thought the van Halen 310 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: episode last week prompted a lot of compelling questions in 311 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 1: the after Party bonus episode that we did on covers, 312 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: best covers, covers that are better than the originals, best 313 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: guitar players. All that, let's check in with some of 314 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: your answers from last week's question. This one comes from 315 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: the seven three to two. Hey, Jake, Mark from New Jersey, 316 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: just listening to the van Halen episode. 317 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 2: Amazing as usual. 318 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: Only cover that I think might be better than H's 319 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: over Roy is Springting's Jersey Girl over Tom Waits. 320 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 3: Might you forget who sang the original? 321 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: That makes it a better cover? 322 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 3: And that first man? 323 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: You know as much as I love Tom Waits, Mark, 324 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: and I really do, I really love Tom Waits. I 325 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: think if I could be any musician of all time, 326 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 1: it would be Tom Waits. That's a good question. We'll 327 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: get back to that, But I agree with you. I 328 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: think Springsteen's version is better, and uh, I think Tom 329 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: Waits might even tell you that as well. It was 330 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: certainly better for his bank account, that's for sure. All right, 331 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: Let's check out another voicemail here, this one from the 332 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: six one five on the same subject. 333 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 3: Hey, Jake, this is Robbie from the six one five. 334 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 3: I am calling with probably the most obvious best cover song, 335 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 3: right the one that took over the original. It's got 336 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 3: to be Hurt, Johnny Cash's cover of Hurt from Transversion. 337 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 3: There's there's nothing nothing that compares right so much towards 338 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 3: you know, trans like that's not my farm anymore. That's 339 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 3: Johnny's song. Take care man Sea. 340 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, six one five. I agree with you. That's a 341 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: great example Hurt by Johnny Cash. And and and you know, 342 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: we obviously have to credit Johnny Cash for the performance, 343 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: but we got to credit Rick Rubin for the for 344 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: uh producing that song. And I don't know how much 345 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: he actually produced it other than suggesting it. But the 346 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: vulnerability in Johnny Cash's voice at that point in his career, 347 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: at that point of his life, excuse me, when he 348 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: sings that song is just it's overwhelming, and it does 349 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: something different to the composition that just wasn't there when 350 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: Trent Reznor performed it It's It's really fantastic six one 351 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: seven nine six six six three eight to hit me 352 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: up guys voicemail and text. You know, there was a 353 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: there was an interesting question that just just got prompted 354 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: there when we were talking about Tom Waits. And I 355 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: used to be a musician. I don't really count myself 356 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: as one anymore. I mean, I'll always make music on 357 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: some level, but I'm not. I don't want to confuse 358 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: what I do with what other people do, and do 359 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 1: very very very well. So I used to think of, like, God, 360 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: if I could be any musician in the world, who 361 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: would it be? And and Tom Waits was always at 362 00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: the top of my list. I thought he was just 363 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: I thought he was like this God, He's just so holy, 364 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: unique and original and talk about covers right, and talk 365 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: about making things your own. Not that Tom Waits was 366 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: this massive cover artist in any way. He wasn't. But 367 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: he took uh, he took Americana, he took country and 368 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: blues and jazz and early pop music, and he took 369 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: all of that and blended it into something completely his own. 370 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: And I just I just was I am. I remain 371 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: completely blown away by it that level of originality, and 372 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: yet it's still completely compelling and listenable. It's not just, 373 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: you know, unique to be unique, original to be original, 374 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: it's something that speaks on a universal level. And I 375 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: always thought, God, if I could be anyone, it would 376 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: be Tom Waits, if I could be any musician. That 377 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: is not that I want to be anyone else. I'm 378 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: pretty hap being me. But the question remains, if you 379 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: could be any musician, who would it be? Six one 380 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: seven nine was six six sixty three eight. We'll get 381 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: back to that in a minute. I want to do 382 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: a couple of texts here as well. Again on this 383 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: Covers issue two four eight Rights in Thin, Lizzie's cover 384 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: of Whiskey and the Jar is more than a great 385 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: cover in the vein of Hendrix's All Along the Watchtower, 386 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: but a complete evolution of the very old folk song 387 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: made famous by the double NRS Rick from the two 388 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: four eight I would have to agree, great song, great, great, 389 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: great song, one of those songs. When I hear it 390 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: is just in my head for about two weeks, can't 391 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: get it out. Six four six, Rights in Hey, Hope 392 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: all is well with you and your family? Just listening 393 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: to your podcast on John Denver, you mentioned Santo Trafficante 394 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: in New Orleans. Traffic Conte was from Tampa. Carlos Marcelo 395 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: was in New Orleans. Many historians link Ah. Many historians 396 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: link Marcello to the assassination of RFK and Doctor King 397 00:22:55,560 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: Go Nix, good call six four six my mistake. You're 398 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: absolutely right. I mixed up those two gangsters. And I 399 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: knew this. You know it's the Southern gangsters and and 400 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: I messed up the Southern places of origin. I apologize 401 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: eight one eight rights in Jake, your podcasts are, in 402 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: a word cool. Just finished the Van Halen episode and 403 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: I dug it. I wanted to touch on the Steve 404 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: McQueen episode. 405 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: I was. 406 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: I was listening to the bonus episode of the van 407 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: Halen one. Someone mentioned Elaine Delone, who would be a 408 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: great episode. And you said to send you a couple 409 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: of titles to get you familiar with them. So here 410 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: you go, like Samurai nineteen sixty seven and Farewell Friend 411 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty eight, also starring Charles Bronson. He was considered 412 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: the French James Dean Cooler than cool, and it's still 413 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: around today, and I'm out Mickey later, Mickey, Mickey, thanks 414 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: for the thanks for the recommendations, ask and I shall receive. 415 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: I appreciate that, all right. Jacqueline from the six ZHO 416 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: two rights in Hey, the Atari's cover of Don Henley's 417 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: Boys of Summer is far superior to his original. Jacqueline, 418 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 1: I don't know that I agree with that. I really 419 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: love Boys of Summer and I know that cover. It's good, 420 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: but superior, I don't know. I think you just like 421 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: the ataris better? Is that? Who that even is the ataris? 422 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: Why does that sound strange to me? Six months seven 423 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: nine o six six six three eight. Guys, all right, 424 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: text voicemail let me know which musician in the history 425 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: of music you can be? Any musician at all, just one. 426 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: Who is it going to be? Six months seven nine 427 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: O six six six three eight to let me know. 428 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: I got to take a break. I'll be right back. 429 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: All right, We're back, and listen up. 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Number one, there's more 484 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: after party to listen to right now, along with an 485 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 1: exclusive trailer for next week's brand new episode. All you 486 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: got to do is go to disgrace lampod dot com 487 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: slash membership and sign up to become an All Access member. 488 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 1: Whatever that ain't your bag, then number two right now 489 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 1: in your feed, a classic episode on John Denver. Number 490 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: three coming tomorrow, A rewind episode on Selena number four. 491 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 1: Over in the bad Lands feed, we have episodes from 492 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: the archive on Patty Hurst and Pete Rose. Number five, 493 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: next week in the Disgrace lam Feed, a brand new 494 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 1: episode on Kobe Bryant number six. My number is six 495 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: one seven nine oh six six six three eight. Call 496 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 1: me on the telephone or text me at number seven. Remember, 497 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: no one cares about the music that you love more 498 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 1: than you do. And well that's a disgrace. And now 499 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: for my moment of list in honor of this week's 500 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: episode on John Denver, me reading you the Denver, Colorado 501 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: phone Book from nineteen sixty eight, one year before John 502 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: dropped his first solo album. Barberis Lewis three six one 503 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: five Mead four five five Dash four five nine, Oh, 504 00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: Barber's Poultry four six six Dash seven three three eight, 505 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: Barbera's Union four seven seven Dash three eight three three 506 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: Barbie Louise three four three Dash three nine three eight, 507 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: Barbage Clifford four two eight nine one seven Oh Barbie 508 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: John Ernest seven two three three six eight seven nine 509 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: eight Barbie seven Alberta seven eight one Dash six nine 510 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: nine six three four three Barbier Gerald three yeas three 511 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: sixty six Flash one one one five five dash, Barbaras 512 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: John Barbara two three trash, wit talking and start mixing