WEBVTT - Heavy are the Breasts 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:05.800 Here's the mail It never fails. It makes me want 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:09.560 to wag my tail. Everybody once, so well, mail are 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:18.880 we going to do that? I just did? Forgive me, mother, 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:22.160 for I have sinned. It's been thirty three years since 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:24.759 my last confession, which I guess is implying that I 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:28.720 confessed in the womb. Yeah, of course we all do spiritually. 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:33.400 And I've been a bad bad girl. That a very 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:38.519 bad girl. Tell me, my daughter, what do you have 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:41.839 on your heart? An a cup? Like a small b 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:48.000 This is so hard to say. I didn't prepare a 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:53.320 topic for this podcast episode, and I need how heavy 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:57.920 eart the breasts that whole of this, this burden my daughter. 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:01.600 I'm I'm so sorry that you are carrying this weight, 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:05.000 and um, I'm here to help you. It's okay. I'm 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:10.839 wearing a skims bra. Wow, how how interesting my daughter, 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:14.640 I too, am wearing a floor length skims down. Um. 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:19.399 The only solution really is for you to do I 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:24.000 don't know five to ten suggestions from our mail bag 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:30.080 from a come down are we're not calling it okay, 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:32.960 I'm breaking on breaking character. We are calling it that 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:35.920 come down. This is like a virgin of the show 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:39.800 where we take loads. No, it's not. You know, we 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:42.039 felt like it would be nice to change up the 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:45.919 format of today's episode. We have gotten tons of suggestions 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:50.240 by way of our voicemail on what episode topics we 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:53.240 could potentially take on a k A. We saw some 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:56.280 of the topics in the air table that are amazing. 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:59.160 Producer Phoebe put together and said, that's a dumb idea, 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:04.280 but we can tell talk about it for like thirty seconds. No. Um, well, 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:06.960 but we love you listeners. That's it. There we go. 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:10.160 We always like to end on a high note. There, yes, um, 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:13.520 so let's start listening to some of these calls and 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:19.400 giving you our live, horny reactions by love. Okay, but 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:21.960 before we get there, we we we have to you know, 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:24.720 go through today's like internet garbage and news. Right, but 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:35.480 I'm so horny, So you know, rose, Um, we are 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:39.680 recording the day after the Oscars, and you know, there 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:42.960 there's something that happened that I feel like it's at 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:47.440 the forefront of everyone's brains right now. Um, something really controversial, 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:50.000 which is that you know, like the Chrispians are, we're 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:52.800 in mourning right now. It's it's it's a huge loss 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:55.240 for the community. Ye as it turns out there's not 0:02:55.480 --> 0:03:00.840 a possibility. I feel like, okay, was she spected to 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:02.840 win or was it kind of a toss up between 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:08.280 her and Jessica. I think last fall into the Holidays, 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:12.040 people were like, Kristen's winning the oscar, and then as 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:16.280 we entered two, people started realizing, like, that's probably not 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:18.840 gonna happen. Yeah, I did not think it was going 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:21.840 to be Jessica, and I saw eyes of Tammy Faye. 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.640 Really liked her performance, and even though like I don't 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:27.960 have much of a frame of reference for Tammy Faye Baker, 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:30.399 the movie was fine. I think it could have been 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:34.640 sharper and funnier, maybe a little meaner, but you know, 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:38.840 people love that kind of transformational role. So similarly, I 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:43.200 adored Jessica in the movie. I thought her encapsulation of 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:47.200 the character was like NonStop fun to watch. I agree 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:50.280 that like the movie, Like, I don't know why we 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:53.160 needed such a sympathetic kind of portrayal of her, Like 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:55.160 I would have loved to see her couplicity in this 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:58.080 situation because clearly, like there's no way there was all 0:03:58.160 --> 0:03:59.880 this like kind of like money laundering and like for 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:01.920 going on like she gets off Scott Free, you know 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:04.520 what I mean? Yeah, there were some rose colored glasses 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:09.160 like you know what, Jessica. I guess she's like one 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:11.320 of the girls who had to win at some point. 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:13.960 So this is probably the movie that it makes the 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:16.440 most sense for her to win for, especially since he 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:18.839 was she was so invested in it. She's been investing 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:21.440 in Tammy Face story for like, isn't almost like ten 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:23.720 years or something like She's she bought the rights in 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:28.440 I think, But listen, my main issue with Jessica is 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:31.719 that I don't know why the dress she wore for 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:34.479 the Vandy Fair party was not the dress that she 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:36.640 wore for the Red Carpet, And this was kind of 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:40.159 an issue all around. The Red carpet looks for the 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:44.359 Oscars were bad, They're boring out, and the and the 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:49.240 Vanity Fair party looks were incredible. My best dress of 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:52.400 the night Dako to Johnson, Really to Johnson and Gucci. 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:58.520 Oh my god, I didn't even see it is immaculate. 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:01.320 My note about the Red car it is Jessica Chastain 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:05.520 and Nicole Kidman both should have sported the draggy blocked 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:08.200 brows of the characters that they played for the ass 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:11.920 they should have done earlier. James Charlis No, yeah, full divine, 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:16.599 just like drawn on blocked Elmer's blued down brows. Also, 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:20.760 Hunter Shaffer's Rick Owens dress was really great and she 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:24.719 was styled very well as well. Hunter Shaver was definitely 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:27.720 maybe my best dressed for the night as well. I 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:31.960 loved Maggie gillen Hall. I did like her Scarelli Yeah, 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:36.080 this hangar. I love all like Scaparelli, like gold, like 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:40.039 you know, embellishments whatever. I thought Timmy was worth the hype. 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:41.760 I thought like people were freaking out about it, and 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:44.159 I thought he looked great. I kind of agreed. Also 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:48.240 loved Codie Smith McPhee and that like baby blue Botega suit. 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:52.719 So I guess we do have to address the slap 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:55.720 herd round the world. Well. Actually, Jada also was best 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:57.200 dressed for the night for me. I thought she looked. 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:00.320 I thought she looked. I loved her dress. I loved 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:02.440 the color of it, and I loved the sense of 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:06.440 drama that I did not love the specifics of the 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:09.800 drafts um. I was on a plane when the slap 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.960 heard around the world. Have you landed to it. I 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:15.520 landed and it had happened like two hours ago. I 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:18.159 can't believe you didn't pay for internet. I mean, I 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:20.200 love not having the internet on a plane. You pay 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:22.440 for in planes all the time. I do when I 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:24.280 need to work. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but this was one 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:28.039 of those nights where, you know, I'm kind of I 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:31.360 was very it was a very manic night on the internet, 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:34.680 and this is we're coming to Monday evening. Today on 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:37.520 the internet has also been horrible. You know what, I 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:40.719 think celebrities should go away for a while. Yeah, I 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:44.919 think my My thing is just like sometimes especially with 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:47.839 things like this, it's like sometimes this is an intracommunal 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:50.640 conversation and like I don't know if I new just 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:53.839 see these like white entertainment bloggers, like you know, making 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:56.719 memes out of like what's happening right now? Sure, but 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:59.360 it was such it's like a such a like this 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:02.719 will never happen on live television. I just can't. I 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:06.279 can't believe we are living through this. Yeah. Um, and 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:09.280 it was a little hot anyway. Anyway, moving on from 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:11.480 the oscars, because I'm sure by the time that's coming out, 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:13.640 everyone is sick of talking about it. You know, It's 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:15.320 one thing I'm not sick of talking about is the 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:18.640 Guilded Age, Which is funny because I pretty much never 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:20.760 talked about it during the whole run of the show 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:24.720 because we record on Monday's, usually Monday mornings, and the 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:29.200 Gilded Age famously happens on Monday night. Famously. Um, it's 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:32.000 a Monday night slot that's dark. Yeah, So I kind 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:35.600 of never remembered to talk about it because you know, 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:38.280 the new episode wasn't coming until that night. The previous 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:42.000 episode had happened a full week before. But this past 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:46.520 week the season finale of The Gilded Age aired, and 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:50.560 I have to tell you, almost nothing happened all Stephen Stas. 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:54.000 The stakes are so low. But I have not enjoyed 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:56.040 a TV show that much in such a long time. 0:07:56.200 --> 0:08:00.280 I was in Guerrilla Grip of the Girls, the Girl's 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:04.280 Gaze and maybe They's of the Guilt. It was a 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:09.720 stunning season of television that also was bad. Um the 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:12.920 lead of the show. Who is Meryl Streep's daughter, worst 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:17.080 actress on television? Um? But you know, beautiful gown Meryl 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:21.800 Streep's daughter, Meryl streeps daughter, she is so wooden and 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:25.520 there is no light behind her eyes. Um so, but 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:29.040 you enjoyed the serious question. The show was so good, 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:31.800 but it's but what do you mean by good? Because 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:35.400 everything you said before that doesn't sound a beautiful period 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:40.680 costume drama of people having indecipherable tension with each other. 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:43.680 Um it gets a lot of things wrong, Like you know, 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:49.040 it's by Julian Fellows who created Downton Abbey, and you 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:51.360 know it was really effective on Downton Abbey was that 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:54.160 it was this period drama that was about the above 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:59.760 and below of a big aristocratic house and the guilded ages, 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:02.400 not that like they kind of flirted with giving the 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:06.240 servants some storylines, but they were always like, that's forward. 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:08.120 I want to get back to the rich people, you 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:10.079 know what, like tried to talk about like new money 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:12.839 and class and race and like to to to varying 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:16.760 levels of success. But I really loved the whole thing. 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:18.840 I'm so excited there's going to be a season two. 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:22.800 There is, yes, in season two. I need more sex. 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:26.480 I need like a thousand percent more sex. There's a 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:28.679 gay character on it. I need him to be horn here. 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:32.280 I need more gays. I need Christine Baranski to maybe 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:34.800 where Eyeliner. I've heard that the gay character is like 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:37.960 aggressively boring. Honestly, I haven't seen it, but like Christine 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.920 Baranski is probably gayer than this character, you know, yeah, 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:43.680 in a way, in a way, Um, but I thirt 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:46.520 I definitely recommend it to anyone who wants to watch. 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:51.200 I definitely won't watch, but I support you. Um. Speaking 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:54.640 of shows where nothing happened, we have yet another episode 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:57.880 of drag Race where no one was eliminated. I'm I'm 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:00.920 currently opening the window so I can ump out of it. 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:05.800 When it happened, I laughed at because I was thinking 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:10.200 of you just tearing furniture up, and I was ripping 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:12.520 the wall paper on. I was in my mother's house 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:14.559 in Florida, just I was like, I don't live here. 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:19.680 I'm destroying everything. I you know. I will say this 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:23.080 was the one elimination where I was kind of okay 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:25.280 with their being the chocolate bar. I thought it was 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:27.880 the perfect person to get the golden ticket. But at 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:32.240 the same time, we are fifty episodes into this season 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:36.200 and two girls have been eliminated, and you know, I 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:40.880 felt this episode was like actually kind of juicy and complex, 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:43.480 Like I didn't really understand a lot of what the 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:46.360 judges were doing. Like I really felt willow Hill, like 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:49.440 one the episode, you know, with the Green Fairy, I 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:51.880 thought Camden was amazing, but I was like, willow Hill 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:54.280 won that. But I think they tried to say like 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:57.920 that Willows like runway performance wasn't up to part. But like, 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:00.360 here's the thing, and I feel like you will agree 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:03.320 or have some sort of take on this. I need 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:06.200 the judges to just say the runway matters or it 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:09.000 doesn't matter. And it really differs from week to week, 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:11.920 and I think it also kind of matters depending on 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:16.280 like the producing of the storyline. It is infuriating they 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:19.720 do it when it's convenient for them, and I hate 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:21.839 that and I just wish that there was like a 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:25.200 separate evaluation. I want to see the scorecards. I want 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:27.600 I because I don't believe that there are and I 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:30.959 want to see the fucking scorecards. And here's the other thing. 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:33.120 Is like if I was a producer on the show, 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:35.680 I'd be like, you know what, we just need. Every 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:39.920 week there is like a Runway winner and it's like, congratulations, 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:44.640 lady Camden, you won the Runway, and that means absolutely 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:47.320 nothing like that would actually be really funny, you know, 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:49.600 but we know you won the runway, but it doesn't matter, 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:52.400 you know. I agree that Willow should have won based 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:56.120 on the challenge because Lady Camden's win felt much more 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:59.880 like the end result of the drama between the Queen 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:03.679 rather than the actual performance that was happening on stage. 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:07.480 Like it was very narratively satisfying with everything that happened 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:10.839 to her in Bosco, but what Willow did in the 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:15.120 rucicle was so much better. What's most important to take 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:19.800 away from this episode is that our girl George's has 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:26.280 come out in solidarity against theater faggots hates musical theater gays. 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:28.880 Did you not love? I thought that was so fun. 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:31.439 It was funny, but I was also just too distracted 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:35.120 by wanting to throw Deja out the window as well 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:39.360 because of that fucking look. She's a seamstress and she 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:42.800 has not looked good once on the right line. Not well. Actually, 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:45.480 I thought the shoulder pads look was like, fine, which 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:49.120 shoulder pads look? The one because for the shoulder because 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:51.680 every episode has been a shoulder pads look for the 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:54.319 shoulder pads challenge, which I actually felt like she should 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:56.360 have won, but it wasn't It still wasn't that good. 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:58.480 You know, all of her looks made me want to 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:06.160 called better, help help me exactly. Um, just kind of 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:09.600 putting putting the shitty little cherry on top of this 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:13.000 like garbage dump of a newsweek. Um. We didn't talk 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:18.439 about or text about the fact that Putin defended J. K. 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:24.560 Rowling very publicly. I've been trying to not engage with it. 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:31.400 But it is funny how it kind of forced her hand, 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:36.640 but like she did not really like let herself be forced. 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:40.960 There is actually like no other public figure that I 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:45.160 can think of that is more like Voldemort than Vladimir Putin, 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:49.360 And it makes her look so bad to be defended 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:51.480 by this man. Like what do you think is like, 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:54.360 it's it's kind of like, girl, look how fucking orange 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:57.600 your love. Literally it's like, I mean, obviously there's no 0:13:57.720 --> 0:13:59.400 nuance to add to this conversation. It's just like the 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:03.000 fucking it's just like we live in the most cursed 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:07.080 time that is so curse, Like it's it's it's it 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:09.400 is so cursed. Yes, But you know what, in the 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:11.240 midst of all of this, I was able to find 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:14.600 some joy through the escape of the movies. Because when 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:15.920 I was in Florida, my mom and I went to 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:20.120 see The Lost City the new Sandra Bolam com and 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:23.160 it was so fun and like, you know, some great 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:26.800 little performances by some of our good Judy's Patty Harrison 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:30.640 and Bowen Yange love to see the girls booked and busy. 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:33.160 And also it was a tight hour in thirty minutes. 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.240 Way you know, if I had a drag race scorecard, 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.920 length would be number one. I am so ready. I 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:42.360 know it's not a summer blockbuster, but it felt like one. 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:45.160 I'm ready. It felt when I went to see it 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:50.400 at um four pm on a Thursday in Boca Raton, Florida, 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:53.680 that theater was packed in March. And you're like, I 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:56.600 love summer like March, And that's how I know it's 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:58.480 going to be a hit. Yeah, I'm excited for that. 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:02.240 Probably get to sequel. Oh yeah, I would watch like 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:04.560 I mean, it has the makeup of everything I want 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:07.960 in a in a movie like that. Um, I watched 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:10.600 King Richard funny enough, I watched it on the plane 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:13.720 and then landed to the moment that is the most 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:18.320 plane movie and existence well that and the Greatest Showman. 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:21.360 You know. That's so it was definitely a very good 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:25.400 plane movie. I thought it was gray. Obviously, Will Smith 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:28.320 like earned that oscar Um I thought he would. He 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:31.480 totally disappeared into the character. I mean, what's funny is 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:34.280 that the character of the dad I thought was going 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:36.840 to be like kind of like his pursuit of happiness. 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:39.240 Air was like, this is like the most glowing, beautiful 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:42.880 superhero of a dad in existence, but he's actually like 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:45.880 a complete tyrant and a little bit of an asshole, 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:48.960 and like what he kind of does to Serena and 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.880 Venus is like very weird and hard to watch, especially 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:55.560 since it's so based in truth but has a character 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:58.680 he's like ultimately likable, which I was like, how did 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:02.040 you do that? You know? I wish that the portrayal 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:04.720 of the dad was less sympathetic. Obviously. It's like the 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.120 same thing like Tammy fay Baker. It's like this person 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:09.600 is kind of bad, you know, Like I just wish 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:11.400 that Will Smith had a fall from grace and he 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:14.040 didn't have it in this movie. Well, I will literally 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:17.200 never watch it, but it's really I mean, the tennis 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:19.480 matches are they made me care about tennis. So did 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:22.440 they ever use the song tennis Court by Lord. No 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:25.720 they didn't. Well, then it's a flop in my book. Yeah, 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.520 I agree, Yeah, or they didn't use any songs from 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:33.400 the band Tennis Tennis. No, it's very excited to move 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:39.920 on from awards season and move into our mail bag. 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:44.840 Come down. We're not calling it the com the come down? Virgins, 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:47.520 can you please advocate for us to call it something 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:50.080 that isn't the come down. I absolutely think that if 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:52.200 we pulled them, most of them would want us to 0:16:52.200 --> 0:17:09.840 call it the compoune. Okay, first up, let's play our 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:15.840 first call. Hi, guys, love in the podcast than I 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:19.440 really think you guys that need to cover the classic 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.840 film show Girls from the nineties. You've probably already seen it. 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:26.080 It's not I highly recommend you checkout show Girls. But 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:29.240 also they're just released a few years ago this amazing 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:33.359 documentary kind of talking about show Girls and its legacy 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:36.320 and how it's a lot. But it's called you Don't 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:39.359 Know Me. The main character, her name is Nomi Malone. 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:43.600 I would love, love, love to hear your guys's perspective 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:47.240 on it. I make every single one of my friends 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:52.479 watch it. I have Showgirls themed parties. I am truly obsessed. Okay, 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:55.760 I have to say I watched this in Quarantine, so 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:59.679 I'm at recently cracked ebb in virgin the film show Girls, 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:03.080 not or the documentary. The film not the documentary. Um. 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:06.719 I was like, I had obviously heard a lot about it. 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:10.040 It's kind of like a very Mimi movie. It's like 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:13.000 a kind of gay right of passage. I distinctly remember 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:16.840 being at a cast party for I think our production 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:20.679 of Flower Drums Song, um, and it was like on 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:24.119 TV in the background. So I did see in my 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:28.600 youth the pool, the swimming pool, the infinite sex scene. 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:32.840 I thought, it's a stunning movie and like would be 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:36.639 in a god tier kind of like echelon of movies 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:41.440 for me if it wasn't for a completely and nonsensical 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:44.760 and gratuitous like gang rape scene that happens at the 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:46.879 end that like really should just be taken out of 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:49.840 the movie and like has no place in like the film. 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:52.480 But like I loved it outside of that, you know 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:55.159 what I mean. Yeah, I It's one of those movies 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:58.920 that I grew up like being aware of and then 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:02.000 always was like, Okay, I guess I'll have to watch 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:04.080 this one day because I'm gay. And then when I 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:06.879 finally watched it, it it was very anti climactic. And I 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:10.280 think it's a really bad movie, but not in a 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:13.720 way where I'm like into how bad it is or 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:17.120 like obsessed with its camping, as I just think it's bad. 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:21.200 But Kyle McLaughlin is so hot in it. Oh yeah, 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:25.160 I mean every everyone's hot in it, but Kyle McLaughlin especially, 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:30.920 and he's like kind of an astounding and like unconventionally 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:35.080 kind of hot and character where all the others are 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:38.920 like just supermodels that have never acted before kind of 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:43.600 Elizabeth Berkeley, um not a good actress, although she does 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:47.359 some stunning work in First Wives Club, which incidentally, we 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:50.520 should do an episode on you think, Um, you don't 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:54.439 known me? Yeah, I mean, so here's the thing. I 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:59.080 think there's a conversation to be had about badness in movies, 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:01.560 and because you and on this podcast talk a lot 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:04.680 about things that are so bad for me, Yeah, some 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:07.479 things are so bad they're good. Some things are just 0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:10.920 playing bad there. Some things are quote unquote camp which 0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:13.120 might not be bad or good, you know what I mean, 0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:16.080 which I think a lot of people miss um define 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:21.840 the term everyone met Gala about this, we actually should 0:20:21.840 --> 0:20:26.159 do I met Gala episode actually um, but I but 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:29.720 this is actually a very I think belongs to a 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:33.640 class of movies similar to Tommy Wizzos The Room where 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:38.439 which this movie is very famous for being bad, and 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:41.320 that I think that a big part of the premise 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:45.399 of the documentary is did this movie want to be 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:48.600 bad or did the director actually think this was a 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:51.200 good movie? Because some I think a lot of things, 0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:53.639 you're like, that could be a legitimately bad choice, but 0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:56.639 then some of them you're like, wait, like what plane 0:20:56.640 --> 0:20:59.480 of reality is this director? I think the director is 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:03.720 just bad directing. I I think it's maybe a combo. 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:06.960 I don't know. I know, I think when you're being 0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:11.800 as melodramatic as this movie is, being like they thought 0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:14.199 they were. I say they because I don't know the 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:16.480 gender of the person directed, but I'm assuming it's a 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:19.520 man um. I thought they were going to win an 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:21.480 Oscar for this, you know. I thought that it was 0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:26.360 like a serious film with you know, like heightened stylization 0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:30.800 and like it's not it's not trying. At least that's 0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:33.399 my opinion. It's not trying to be bad. It's trying 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:37.640 to be good and is bad. I don't know, swings 0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:40.920 back around to being enjoyable. I think, yeah, I think 0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:44.520 it might be that as well. I I feel like, um, 0:21:44.720 --> 0:21:49.720 something that's kind of the choreography is very shocking, like 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:52.720 it it has like a violence to it that I 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:55.760 like never would have expected. Also in terms of things 0:21:55.800 --> 0:21:59.960 I didn't expect, the movie is really long, Like it's 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:02.560 like one of those movies where like why is this 0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:06.680 Why is this movie so long? You know what I mean? 0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:08.760 Like I didn't I didn't sign up for the Batman. 0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:11.360 Have you ever seen like any sort of like burlesque 0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:13.520 or like have you been to the Box before? Yeah, 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:16.479 of course I remember, Like I think I'm once with 0:22:16.560 --> 0:22:19.560 like a Mandela Poor's table or something like that. I 0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:22.760 think she was like there every Wednesday or whatever. Um, 0:22:22.800 --> 0:22:29.320 And it's like predominantly like CD business guys. It's all 0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:33.320 like the worst straight people with a lot of money, yeah, 0:22:33.359 --> 0:22:35.680 and queer people who are being paid to be there. 0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:38.359 And I think that's kind of why. The thing about 0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:41.000 that's the thing about show Girls that's like kind of 0:22:41.040 --> 0:22:45.520 hard to digest, is like those people are kind of 0:22:45.560 --> 0:22:49.280 the movers of the plot, even though the women should 0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:51.679 be I don't know. I guess like no, me is 0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:54.520 like the engine, but like she's so beholden to like 0:22:54.560 --> 0:22:56.680 the decisions of men. Like pretty much the entire movie. 0:22:56.960 --> 0:23:00.960 Hate it, do you really? Not even the kiss, not 0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:05.479 even the lesbian kiss. You know, it's just so for 0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:11.320 not the audience who ultimately received it that it just 0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:14.000 it doesn't you know what. It's fine. I can understand 0:23:14.000 --> 0:23:16.439 why people love it. It just doesn't really do anything 0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:18.560 for me the movie as a whole. It is kind 0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:23.480