1 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: Ronanian, going from you know when every day afford a 2 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Chevy something more mainstream to an outy is really going 3 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: from that dollar cup of coffee to the five dollar 4 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: cup of coffee. It's a lifestyle change, the Car Doctor. 5 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: Was the oil changed recently at all? Yeah, it was 6 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: just changed a week ago. And maybe the people that 7 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: changed it if they did something or do something and well, 8 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: but you know, yeah, I mean it's easy to you know, 9 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: ever since they ever since syndrome. But let's start with 10 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: big six. How about let's just check oil level. Welcome 11 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: to the radio home of ron Andanian the Car Doctor, 12 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world overturn to 13 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 14 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 15 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: call in. The garage doors are open, but I am 16 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: here to take your calls at eight five five five 17 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:35,919 Speaker 1: six and now citing running. Hey, welcome, start your engines 18 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: along and welcome Ronny and the Car Doctor here at 19 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: a five zero nine zero zero Car Doctors Show dot Com. 20 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: A nod to the Queen of Soul, Aretha Franklin. You 21 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: know it's funny just to touch on this real quick 22 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: as we kick off this hour of the Car Doctor 23 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: and acknowledge her passing and her greatness. Um, really and truly, 24 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: I remember years and years ago hearing the director of 25 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: the Blues Brothers, remember the Blues Brothers movie and John Landis, 26 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,639 Speaker 1: wasn't it John Landis who directed The Lose Brothers? And 27 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: I remember him saying, somebody asked him the questions for 28 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: whatever reason. They said, so, what was really the significance 29 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: of the Blues Brothers? You know? Was it the comedy? 30 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: Was it the car chases? And he said absolutely not. 31 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: He said it was capturing these pieces of American music 32 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: forever on on on film. And I never understood that. 33 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: And now as I watched them all go right, Areatha 34 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: just went? John Lee Hooker is gone, Ray Charles is gone, 35 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: James Brown is gone. And you think about the greats. 36 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: Cab Calloway passed away two years ago. I think he 37 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: was Is it more than that? Um, you just look 38 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,399 Speaker 1: at it, you say, yeah, that's that's what that movie 39 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: is about. He's he really captured a time in American 40 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: music and the car chases and you know, the whole 41 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: thing there, but uh yeah, just just really classic stuff. 42 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: But to the late greater areathaetom you just mentioned Ray Charles. 43 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: I was in the I think it was Washington Dulles 44 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: Airport one day and I'm standing there at the luggage belt. 45 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: Ray Charles was in town and there's roadies and they're 46 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: off loading equipment and off loading boxes, and this thing 47 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: that looks like a coffin comes down the belt and 48 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: on the side Ray Charles, and they took the thing off. 49 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: And I looked at them and went for the amount 50 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: of money. That guy makes me think he'd fly first class. 51 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 1: I thought they were gonna bust a nut. Uh. He's 52 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: all ours, folks, Tom Ray, No, Feloni, no, no whatever. 53 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: So let's go over the phones. I understand Ellis is 54 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: in town. Look at this now, Now this is a 55 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: this is a story and a half. Bring Ellis up, 56 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: Turn up, Ellis Is, Mike Ellis. Welcome to the car doctor, buddy. 57 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: How are you today? Yeah, you know, listen, you know 58 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: we start to know each other. It's gotta be fifteen 59 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: years now, yeah, you know it's it's and I met 60 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: you on radio fifteen years ago and you used to 61 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: call up and tell us the stories about driving the 62 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: cars around the cornfield and hiding them out in the cornfield. 63 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: And you know, we started talking about you, Tony and 64 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: I started talking about you probably a month ago, and 65 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: I said, gee, we haven't heard from Ellis a while, 66 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: and I wonder if he's okay. And lo and behold 67 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: here you are, brother. How are you doing? Pretty good? 68 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: But what a half? When I've called before, but I 69 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: called the wrong number. I thought you said eight five 70 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: five nine six, so nine and nine hundred and you 71 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: were saying five sixs. So now listen at your last 72 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: week on Harrisonburg, which I listened to you on Sundays 73 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: at the pre show, and I said, now, he didn't 74 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: say nine six, so he said five six so and 75 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: I died yesterday and then I found out I had 76 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: died wrong. So I don't know who I've been leaving 77 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: messages with, but I've been down on the wrong number. Well, 78 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: fortunately for us, they never called you back, so we 79 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: we get to keep you as one of our show 80 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: road He's, uh, you know, listen and I understand that 81 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: you know, our our birthday month is the same. It 82 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: was just your birthday, brother, August six, So happy birthday 83 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: from the car right. How are you? How old are 84 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: you now seven seventy seven years young? God? So what 85 00:04:58,120 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: do you? What do you? What are you driving out 86 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: there in that cour Well that's what I got rid 87 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: of the old old cause but the only thing I 88 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: have mail is to play with chatting able on forty 89 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: acres of property as that. I got an old nineteen 90 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: seventy GMC with V six and it uh truck, so 91 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: deepot flint bear, don't be it. And I'm driving when 92 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: I'm not driving, but I have to get somebody to 93 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 1: take me with that's a matter of fact. When yesterday 94 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: I got a hundred dollars with a fuel that I 95 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: found some supposted to be no gas, and I'm wonder 96 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: is that necessary for me to do that? And that 97 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: older model truck? I uh, I understood that that l 98 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't too good for that old truck. Well, you know 99 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: it's ethanol as a rule isn't great in older vehicles 100 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: if the fuel is gonna sit. So if you can 101 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: find non ethanol fuel for it, yeah, by all means that, 102 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: you know, because I imagine in your case, you're just 103 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: out driving around the back forty Um, that truck tends 104 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: to sit a lot right, right, And it's still sits 105 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: a lot, and I don't I have to make myself 106 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: drop this. I don't mind going getting the fuel at 107 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: all to save the old truck. But it runs like 108 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: a two dollars in eighteen. This is uh, it runs 109 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: like a new truck. And uh, I used around on 110 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: if I got fam used tags on no peg, no 111 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: you know, no state tag. So I'm to take kid 112 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: those things. That's the only thing I got in my palace. 113 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: Als to play with it. Now you don't. You don't 114 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: get behind the wheel at all anymore else, No, not 115 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: on row that this around, I got a track to it. 116 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: I got your truck and just around on my uh 117 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: my place, and I got another place I used to 118 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: live as got about Nanny Acres, and I go up there. 119 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: But then then and play around, and I'm got gonna 120 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: put that for sale. Yeah, um, but I just the 121 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: image of you driving around the corn fields in that 122 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: in that Cadillac just always gave me a google man. Um. 123 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: That's that's the adominable American spirit, right, never, never give up, 124 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: never surrender. And yeah, man, so what do you do 125 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: with yourself these days? Well that's a buddy cut this 126 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: and uh cut uh, fire would a soul firewood on 127 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 1: the side, try to make middle buy Middle extra snack 128 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so definitely good talking 129 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: with it. I want to hold the show up. And 130 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: uh and I'm glad I got that number right so 131 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: I could hear your voice again. I wish I knew 132 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: I had to get you to I have on side, 133 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: but said I can't. I don't have a computer because 134 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: I said, my bad. And I don't spend that much time, 135 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: you know, inside And also yeah, well that's okay, we understand. 136 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: But we appreciated Ellis, and uh, you keep you you 137 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: keep it up out there. We we love to count 138 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: you among the listeners. Ship right, brother right, Brian cokay, 139 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: appreciate Conky and I listen to myself again tomorrow. Yeah 140 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: you will, you will absolutely tomorrow morning. And Harrison Burke 141 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: take good care of Ellis. So what do you see? Yeah, 142 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: we got Ellis back all right. Now that that counts 143 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: for a whole lot. Let's go over and talk to 144 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: Nick and Missouri O seven Ford at fur and fifty 145 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: and this is the earbag vehicle from last week. Nick, 146 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: what's going around with this truck? I don't know it 147 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: just it just stays on. It just all of a 148 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: sudden it came on, and you know, I don't I'm 149 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: I don't know nothing, and I think I told you 150 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: the mechanic I took it to. We looked, looked, and 151 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: he just stuck up a little snake camera back in 152 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: a place underneath the center. It's not really a commshole, 153 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: but it's a split daince seed and stuck it in. 154 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: Then there's another more wires and module and pranking underneath there, 155 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: and he thought maybe that's where it was. But they 156 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: only way he could do it is to take that 157 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: take that intersection. Did you happen to get the trouble 158 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: code for me? I did? Okay, what do you got? 159 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: It's it's be one eight eight four okay, and it 160 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: has He tried clearing it and does that return? Do 161 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: you know? Yeah, we cleared it and it just came 162 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: It just came back immediately back on and it comes up. 163 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: It comes up a passenger air bag disable and then 164 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: a warning, a warning lamp circuit failure. Okay, okay, so 165 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: let me let me explain it. Like this air bags 166 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: work off resistance values, all right. The way the computer 167 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: checks itself is it's looking at specific resistance values and 168 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: and voltage through a circuit to decide is the componentry 169 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: connected and is it capable of doing its job? All right, 170 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: The first thing you want to do for this particular fault, 171 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: just to verify it. Chances are it's okay. Is you 172 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: want to go to fuse number twenty seven. It's a 173 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: little five and fuse in the central junction box. The 174 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: central junction box is the one inside the vehicle. And 175 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: I'll make this easy. It's it's just fuse number twenty seven. 176 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: You want to make sure it's there. Simple stupid stuff. Right. Um, 177 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: it's good, it's there. It's got power on both sides. Yeah, okay, 178 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: Then go take the passenger airbag lamp out, the pad 179 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: lamp as they call it. All right, take it out, 180 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: you know, take it out of the dish. You can 181 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: get to the back of it with it connected in 182 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: the key on. Check the gray yellow wire. It should 183 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 1: have battery voltage from the fuse, because that's what the 184 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: how do you how do you get to that lamp? Well, 185 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: that lamp's got it. Yeah, part of the dash has 186 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: to listen. I didn't say this was gonna be easy. Um, 187 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tell you the diagnosis, brother, all right, Um, 188 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: none of this is easy. That's why, that's why not 189 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: everybody can do this, all right, Um, but you want 190 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: to you want to get to that You want to 191 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: get to that lamp. And there's gonna be a gray 192 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: yellow and a black yellow. You want to check and 193 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: make sure the gray yellow has battery voltage on it, 194 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: all right, Okay, I'm writing this, trying to write this 195 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: gray yellow has as battery okay. And then you want 196 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: to check the black yellow for for battery voltage also, 197 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: and you want to make sure he uses a vault 198 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: meter not a test light. Very important when you're working 199 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: with air bags. Okay, gray yellow for battery voltage and 200 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: black yellow for battery voltags. Right, and the black yellows 201 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: the feet out of that pad lamp assembly, all right, 202 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: if there's no no watch, all of a sudden is 203 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: gonna make sense to you if there's no voltage on 204 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: that black yellow, but obviously there's voltage coming in the 205 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 1: pad lamp is bad? Yeah, all right, even though it 206 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: even though it's showing up right, you know, even though 207 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: it's slit up in the dash now right, just just 208 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: just just covering the bases. Okay, because the next step, 209 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: the next step becomes if you have power coming out 210 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: of the pad lamp, then we've got to go and 211 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: find the restraint module and we've got to get into 212 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: a couple of connectors and look at voltage and powers 213 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: at the pins. And that's not the common stuff. The 214 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: indicator is the more common out. Well, I guess my deal. 215 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: I don't even know whether my airbags working or not. 216 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: I guess it won't be if the air if the 217 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: service airbag or an airbag warning lamp is lit, the 218 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: airbag will not work in that vehicle. M period. Well, 219 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be too dear if I had a passenger. No, 220 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: so unless somebody you don't like you, I can't say that. 221 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 1: That's not polite. Um you know, um, you know. Yeah, 222 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: but that's sounds like a lot of sounds like a 223 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: lot of work to me for something that's I could 224 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: just get a piece of black tape and put it 225 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: a little no. You can't do that, dude, Then, what 226 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: like you say, what if what if you're in the 227 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: cars and what if it's what if you're the passenger 228 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: and somebody's driving you around? They don't drive my drug. Well, 229 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: I can't listen. I can't. I can't argue this point, 230 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: but I get it. Um, I get it. But yeah, 231 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: that's the listen. Nothing nothing is easy in order to repair. 232 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: That's the catch. It's it's you know, if if it 233 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: was that easy, then everybody would be doing it today. 234 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: All right, But that's that's the new team. That's where 235 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: you gotta go with this. All right, I appreciate it. 236 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: All right, then good luck to you. Let me know 237 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: what you end up doing. A heady by by. You're welcome. 238 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: Zero nine nine zero zero five six zero nine zero zero. 239 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: Gotta be played for Ellis. I'm runing any of the 240 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. I'll be back right after this. Need advice 241 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: on how to maintain that classic g t O. Ron 242 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: is the guy eight five five five zero nine nine 243 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: zero zero. Here's Ron. Hey, let's get over and talk 244 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: to Kitty and Harrison Burg in Virginia Honda Cross Tour. Kitty, 245 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: welcome to the Car Doctor. How can I help? Well, 246 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: I have done a little bit of research on this 247 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: and got so many different conflicting responses that I know 248 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: where to go. So I came to you. All right, 249 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: let's see what we can do for well, I have 250 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: UH when I downshift when I'm breaking UH and the 251 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: occasional it's not all the time, but like a hard 252 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: break to to come down a stop that there's a sunk, 253 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: like a downshift from third to second or from second 254 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: to first. I thought it was second to first, but 255 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: other people when I googled its talked about it being 256 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: from third to second. And I spoke to my regular 257 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: mechanic and he suggested an oil change. And he's spent 258 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: my mechanics twenty years, so I trust him. But then, um, 259 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: I called a transmission specialist that I've known for forty years, 260 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: and I asked him about it because I thought it 261 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: would be a little I was just checking prices and 262 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: I thought it would be a little cheaper since he's 263 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: in the business for transmission oils. And he said he 264 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: had never done an oil trans transmissis and oil change 265 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: on a Honda. And so I'm going, whoa here? Now? What? So, 266 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: which question do we want to talk about? First? Is 267 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: an oil change? Is it a chance that will change 268 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: my bure remedy? Or is that a normal thing for 269 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: a Honda six zones or a four wheel drive to 270 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: have a transmission issue like that where it does normally 271 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: have a song? How many miles are on this car? Kidding? Okay, 272 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: you added service for hundred thousand You've never had the 273 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: trans service in a hundred thousand miles? Say it again. 274 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: Have you ever had the trans fluid changed in the 275 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: past hundred thousand months? Thro I had? I bought it 276 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: at eighty thousand and I as far as I know, 277 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: it's never been serviced. And I don't even think the 278 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: manual calls for it. Right, well, none of the Honda 279 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: manuals call for the transit to be service because they 280 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: last forever until they don't. The question which is you 281 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: know that's that's the deal. Um, The question becomes what 282 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: trans is? This? Is this? If this is a c VT, 283 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: most of the manufacturers are constant velocity transmission, most of 284 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: the most of the vehicle manufacturers say it never needs 285 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: to be changed. Of course, my argument is if it 286 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: never needs to be changed, and why do they still 287 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: make fluid for it? But that's just my way of things. 288 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: Can call me silly. Um, we typically serviced most CVT transmissions. 289 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: I'm most manufacturers in the sight thousand mile mark. If 290 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: you follow the school of thought that nothing lasts forever. Um, 291 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: could that be your clunk? Could be? Um, I'd like 292 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: to talk about that a little bit more. My My 293 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: first comment or question would be, how does the trans 294 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: up shift? Does it up shift? Okay? Do you feel 295 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: it to be smooth during an up shift? And we normal? Okay? 296 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: And when you talk about this this down shift funk, 297 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: is this something you feel under your foot or do 298 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: you feel that it's the transmission itself down shifting hard? 299 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: It's the transmission itself, It's not un in the foot okay. 300 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: So if it's the transmission itself, UM, I would consider 301 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: a fluid change. Um. Well, I would say it like this. 302 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: First I find out what trans this is. If this 303 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: is a c VT at the hundred thousand mile mark, 304 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: it's it's overdue. And if it's a regular Honda trans 305 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: regular Honda trans fluid, it's way overdue. Um. Because we 306 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: typically serviced regular Honda Transit to take the type h fluid. 307 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: Oh ever to thirty were a little fanatical. We've seen 308 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: them go as much as fifty and sixty. But the 309 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: problem becomes when the fluid gets real dirty and beat up. 310 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: Now you can aggravate the situation and and and and 311 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: create issues. But you know you want this to last. 312 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: So when do you want to deal with this? When 313 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: the trans finally breaks, you do you want to try 314 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: and resurrect what you got? Um? I would ask your 315 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: current mechanic to check a check the fluid is it 316 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: and ask him this question, is it traditional Honda trans fluid? 317 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: He'll he'll know what we mean by that, all right, UM, 318 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: is it traditional Honda trans fluid? And what color is it? 319 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 1: Does it appear to have um a redness to it, 320 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: a paintness to it? If it does, let's change it. 321 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: The other thing I would have somebody do is check 322 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: for I don't know how any bulletins off the top 323 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: of my head, but it would definitely be looking for 324 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: a possible software update for Trance to modify its downship characteristics. 325 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: I would do those two things first, then call me 326 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: back and we can talk about it further, because software 327 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: may fix this car as well. I'm run a Nating 328 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: in the Car Doctor. We're back right after this. Hey, 329 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: welcome back Nating the Car Doctor eight five five zero 330 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 1: zero UM Car Doctor Show dot Com podcasting. By the way, 331 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: thanks the podcast numbers keep climbing. We appreciate that. Getting 332 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: over the spreaker. Just do it right through Car Doctors 333 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: Show dot com. I'll talk a little bit about Tesla. Um. 334 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: Wait what I missed? This is right? Great article in 335 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: New Jersey Automotive magazine. UM. You can find it online 336 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: just Google search New Jersey Automotive. It's the August issue. 337 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 1: This is UM. Actually they don't say who the author was. UM. 338 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: I just oh, I'm sorry, Joel Guston. I know Joel. 339 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: A matter of fact, we've had Joel on the show before. UM. 340 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: We've worked with New Jersey Automotive, as everybody must know, 341 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 1: for years and years and years. And he wrote a 342 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: really great article regarding UM. It's titled Grand Visions, Harsh Realities, 343 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: test Less stumbles into Collision Repair. And I've got to 344 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: admit I never really thought about the collision side of this. 345 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: You know, obviously my brain is always geared towards mechanical 346 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: because that's where I I live, that's where I spend 347 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: my day. And it was really sort of an interesting article. 348 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: He starts off asking do you have seventy thousand dollars 349 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: to spend on a headache? Um, okay, that's what one 350 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: New Jersey based shop underestimates he invested in training and 351 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: equipment necessary to become a test Less certified shop last year. 352 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: Can you imagine dedicating your body shop to where you're 353 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: just gonna fix one type of car? Um. You know, 354 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: not that you're not that that's all you're doing, but 355 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: you know, seventy grand to become test Less certified with 356 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: o EM certifications all the rage. That's true. Ford. Does 357 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: you know, like I remember when the Ford aluminum truck 358 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: body came out for you had get aluminum body certified 359 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: in order to repair them. Um and Tesla's repute. Let's 360 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: see if I can get this right, Tesla's reputation for 361 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: technological innovation. The veteran repair believe that aligning his business 362 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: with the manufacturer would give him a competitive edge. Unfortunately, 363 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: Joel Ghoston goes on to right in New Jersey Automotive, 364 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: It first appeared to be a worthwhile endeavor has resulted 365 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: and added stress to his already hefty workload. I'm not 366 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: pleased with Tesla, the shop owners stated, it cost me 367 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: thousands to get certified. But here's the reality. This is 368 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: what got my attention. I can't get parts at his facility. 369 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: It's not uncommon for a medium sized Tesla hit to 370 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 1: sit around for months waiting for the correct parts to arrive. Sadly, 371 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: this appears to be far from an isolated into occurrence 372 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: in an industry based on returning vehicles to the road 373 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: as simply as possible. New Jersey Automotives recent conversations with 374 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: various East Coast shops indicate that Tesla is failing to 375 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: meet the standards of efficiency and in communication that certified 376 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,239 Speaker 1: facilities expect. When you wall Tesla, you might as well 377 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: put that just put that phone down, because you're on 378 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: hold for hours, observes another testa certified shop owner who 379 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: recently waited five months for an airbag to arrive. We 380 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: eventually just give up and disconnect. How can that be? 381 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: How can you? You know, how can your car gets 382 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: You're in an accident and it's five months to get 383 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: parts or four months to get parts. That's insanity. And 384 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: then you've got to think about what's gonna be the 385 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: cost to ensure these cars. And you know who's really 386 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: gonna pay for this? You and I the non Tesla 387 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: driving public, because our insurance premiums are gonna be thrown 388 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: in the collective pool with the Tesla driving public, and 389 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: because they can't get their cars back and the cost 390 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: to repair them or higher, they're also gonna have to 391 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: be in loaners that are rentals, which drives up the 392 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: cost of a repair, which means that it's their premiums 393 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: are gonna go up. As a result, all of our 394 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: collective premiums are gonna go up. Is this the kind 395 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: of treatment that a certified shop for any o EM 396 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: should ever received? Joel Ghost and goes on the right 397 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: New Jersey or the Moti August eighteen issue. Certified shops 398 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: on Tesla's program came up with the money to send 399 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 1: their text to training, cover their flights, put them up 400 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: at hotels, and make the necessary equipment upgrades to handle 401 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: Testla's demands. The sting gets even worse when you look 402 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: at what's happening at test Less service departments. I don't 403 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: know what's happened, what's happening in Tesla service departments. I 404 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: wonder I know the service departments take priority over TESTA 405 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: certified shops observes another certified repair. We've waited five or 406 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: six weeks for mechanical parts at their shops have been 407 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: able to get in a week. So let's see. So 408 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: that means that they're saying Testlas show's favoritism, excruciating parts, delays, 409 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: poor communication, disappoint the certified shops. Any one of these 410 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: issues should be assigned for Testla to hit the pause button. 411 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: How about we can't build a car that well, that's 412 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: a whole another story. Um, hit the pause button, take 413 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,479 Speaker 1: a serious look at its relationship and work to make 414 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: things right. However, Testla's appearance solution to its shop related 415 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: woes is to dive into the repair business itself. In 416 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: early June, CEO Elon Musk told shareholders at a meeting 417 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: in Mountain Duke, California, that the company planned to create 418 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: its own body shops in the top ten areas in 419 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: the country by the end of that month. This will 420 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: be a dramatic improvement in the cost and time of 421 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: body repair, he announced. In fact, we think we may 422 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: have to able to do for a lot of them 423 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: same day body repair. If we go to a third 424 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 1: party invest cases a better week. In some cases it's 425 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: several weeks. I don't understand how how can he fix something? 426 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: First of all, you know what these guys that come 427 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 1: out and say Hey, we're gonna open up our own 428 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,239 Speaker 1: body shops and we'll fix it better than anybody. At 429 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: what price? Where's the where's the what's the profitability? Trust 430 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 1: me to be in the body shop business? I had 431 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: defy anybody to jump into the body shop business in 432 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 1: New Jersey with a price of real estate alone, property taxes, 433 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: insurance and everything else before you turn dollar one in 434 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 1: a repair facility, finding the location is a task gun 435 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: to itself. And you know you're gonna you're gonna turn 436 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: a profit just that quick, and you're gonna get parts 437 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: just that quick. When the certified shops that have spent 438 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: the seventy thou dollars can't get parts that quick? What's 439 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: wrong with this picture? Um? I think Tesla's ego is 440 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: writing checks his body can't cash. Joel Ghoston goes on 441 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: the right. Let me get the page too, Um, where 442 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: are we page two? While these words are certainly ambitious, 443 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: they appear, at least for the moment, to be more 444 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: talk than action. As of mid July, Musk's promised auto 445 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: body facilities were only up and running in Washington, Texas, Florida, Nevada, Georgia, Maryland, Illinois, 446 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: and California, while Tesla owned facilities were not in the 447 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: Garden State at press time. Shops report that they auto 448 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: maker is aggressively advertising for technicians. That's another problem. All 449 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're going to take you're gonna create technicians, 450 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: You're gonna create a shop. Doesn't fall out of the 451 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: sky like that. You know, this reminds me of a 452 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: few years back. Maybe it's ten years back. I kind 453 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: of forget time. But the vehicle manufacturers, I remember the 454 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: stories about Ford was gonna get into an all makes, 455 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: all models auto repair, and GM had talk of it. 456 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: Chrysler head talk of it. They wanted to tap into 457 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: servicing all makes, all models. That didn't work out too well, 458 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: did it? He Naturally, these job opportunities are not for 459 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: entry level repairs. These are high tech roles that must 460 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: be filled by people with the highest level of training possible. 461 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: Who are the people in New Jersey most qualified to 462 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 1: meet these requirements? Texas certified shops who paid to train 463 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: to text, the certified shops that can't get Tesla on 464 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: the phone. Joel's right, right, So you know, here we go. 465 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: Tesla is gonna just try and level the playing field 466 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: and steal text from the shops that supported him in 467 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: their program to get themselves nowhere but behind the eight ball, 468 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: waiting for parts from a guy that can't deliver, but 469 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: he's gonna deliver parts. I you know, once again, I 470 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: think the electric car business, maybe it's the future, and 471 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: maybe it's where we're going, and I can see where 472 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: it will be one day, but I think that, um, 473 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: the price of business along the way is going to 474 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: really create a lot of stress and turmoil in an 475 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: already technologically filled world that we live in. And I 476 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: just can't see it as being a viable choice and 477 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: a viable source. So, um, you can find us online. 478 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: I'll try and post the link. Maybe I'll try and 479 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: post a link up on Facebook on car doctor facebook page. 480 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: I'll find it and see if I can get your 481 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: right to it. It's on the starts on page forty 482 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: two of New Jersey Ort to Motive augusteen issue. I 483 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: thought it was a great article about Tesla and some 484 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: of the realities of of of of what it takes 485 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: to fix these cars, these these electronic cars, these electrical cars, 486 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: and um all that that entail. So head tip of 487 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: the hat to Joel from New Jersey Auto Motive. I 488 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: thought it was a great article. Eight five zero nine 489 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: zero zero. Let me pull over, take a pause. When 490 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: I come back, we'll go right to the busy phones. 491 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: Don't go away, Hey, running name the car Doctor. We 492 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: are back. Um. I just posted up on the car 493 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: Doctor Facebook page the article from New Jersey Otto Motive magazine. Um, 494 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: you will have to manually turn the page there there. 495 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: I couldn't get a direct link, but I brought you 496 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: to the August edition. It begins on page forty two. 497 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: Just hit the side arrows and scroll over. Good article, 498 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: worth reading and it it talks about the nightmare of 499 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 1: what fixing some of these cars, all these cars at 500 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: this present time is gonna be like so another reason 501 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: that we have to question the electric cars and the 502 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: way Tesla is doing it to market. Let's get over 503 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: and talk to John, a return caller from Florida eight 504 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: three Camaro And this is the strolling car from last week. 505 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: And I understand that's fixed. We got something else going on, John, 506 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: Welcome back, sir. How can we help you today? Yeah? Yeah, 507 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: we we figured out what the reason was for the 508 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: stalling the vacuum one of the vacuum lines weren't were 509 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: clouds I guess um clouded or off for it was plugged, 510 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: so we we we just had to unplug it and 511 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: uh and it was fine all right. Which which which 512 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: vacuum line was that, I'm not sure which one it was, 513 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: to be quite honest with you, but something something coming 514 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: into the carburetor, yeah I believe so. Yeah, and it 515 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: was just robbing the the motor of of vacuum, I guess. 516 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: And where's the idle speed? Now? Uh it's it's we 517 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: we brought it down to where you you uh you 518 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: like we're around runs perfect? Yeah, okay, so what you 519 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: got going on today? So the other the other issue, 520 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: you know, but that's really the only the only issue 521 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: I have left is uh so we rebuilt this motor 522 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: from top to bottom about about a year ago, and 523 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: uh we it's now the rear main seal has started leaking. 524 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: It's a very it's a very minor leak. And when 525 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: I when I talked to a mechanic, he's taught me 526 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: that the type of motor that we have in there, 527 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: it's a late seventies three fifty uh motor and they 528 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: typically leaked from the rear main seal uh, and he 529 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: says that it's not something I really need to worry about. 530 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: So I don't know if it's something I should really 531 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: do or not. So let me ask you this question. 532 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: Or did we have the conversation last week. It's on 533 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: the fringe of my memory about how this motor is vented? Um? 534 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: Does this have a PCD evalvement? It does? Okay? And 535 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: the PCV, I'm gonna ask the stupid questions. The PCV 536 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: is functioning. It's it's um. You know obviously it's working. 537 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: It's not just in there for display pieces purposes. Okay. 538 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: And you've got a breather in one of the valve covers. Okay, 539 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: So you know we've got enough crank case. You know, 540 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: we've got enough venting, so we were not building up 541 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: excess crank case pressure. Um, just for giggles, if you 542 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: want to, if you if you, if we want to 543 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: see if this has anything to do with crank case pressure, 544 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: what you could try doing is, you know, just wash 545 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: down the suspected oil leak area and pop the engine 546 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: oil dipstick out just to touch, just just just enough 547 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: to let it breathe. We're gonna make it. We're gonna 548 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: make another source or another point of pressure relief in 549 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: the crank case drive the car. Chances are it's still 550 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: gonna leave, but we'll feel better knowing that we tried that, 551 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: all right, Um, it just it just you know, I've 552 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: once in a while, I've I've I've alleviated the problem 553 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,479 Speaker 1: just by pointing out, hey, it's too much crankcase pressure. 554 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: Maybe we got to add a breather. Maybe we gotta 555 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: you know, modify the PCV orifice, which we mean, we'd 556 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: have to change some setups in the carb And you know, I, 557 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: I you know, it's it's a never ending process. Man, 558 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: You're always chasing yourself. And I just wanted to I 559 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: just want to be sure that before I take you 560 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: down the next path that we've covered the basis. So 561 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: just just try that. It's it's quick, chip, quick, cheap, 562 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: easy and simple. It's it's kind of like Tom ray. Um, 563 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: then you can once you establish that, are we sure 564 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: it's the rear main seal? And before you answer that, 565 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: all right, is it only from down under? Could it 566 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: be a leak at the rear of the you know, 567 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: top of the intake coming down the sides of the 568 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: motor and dripping off the bottom corner of the pan, 569 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: making it look like a rear main. Well, here's the 570 00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: weir main and he's been around the locked this mechanics. Okay, 571 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: I trust I trust him, the first mechanic that I 572 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: have trusted. Okay, good, good, good good. Then let's fix it. 573 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: I mean it's well, I understand what's involved in fixing it. 574 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: This should be a two piece rear main alright, Um, 575 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: this should be a two piece rear main seal. So 576 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: in order to fix this, the oil pan has to 577 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: come down and we're gonna work upside down, pulling down 578 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: the main cap, spinning the seal around. You know, do 579 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: you do? You want to do it now? No, it's 580 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: probably a good wintertime project, all right. Um, just to 581 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: see where that goes, and I'll tell you what. Just 582 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: just hang on one second, John, let me let me 583 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: not rush this. Let me pull over and take the pause. 584 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: When I come back, we'll finish up eight zero. The 585 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: car Doctor will return right after this. Don't go away. Hey, Hey, 586 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: we're back, ron On Needing of the Car Doctor, John Florida. 587 00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 1: You're still there, bababy three cameral Yeah, okay, So is 588 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: a two piece of rear main for you know, for 589 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: knowledge sake, the oil pan comes down and the last 590 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: main cap comes down off the crank, oil pump comes out, 591 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: and you know, the seal has to be spun around 592 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: in order to change it out of the upper half 593 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: of the cap. All right, Um, he's not lying. It 594 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: is a little tedious. All right. It really depends on 595 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: how big of a leak this is, you know. But 596 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: I'm kind of one of those guys. I like, I 597 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: like things to not leak. I'm just built that way. Uh, 598 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: I am too, And uh, I definitely am one of 599 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: those people that as soon as I see something wrong, 600 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: I have to fix it immediately. But when he hit 601 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: when I was talking with him, and he said that 602 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: it's one of the things that this type of motor 603 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: tends to do. Um after a little while, and he said, 604 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: you know, I could have plays it, but it's just 605 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: gonna end up leaking sooner or later again. And I don't. 606 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't necessarily buy that. I've got to 607 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: tell you, I I don't remember, and I was there. 608 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: I don't remember the seventies being a you know, an 609 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: age of oil leakers. Um, I'll tell you this, my 610 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: seventy two Monte Carlo that I picked up out of Texas, Uh, 611 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: two years ago. It's got forty one thousand miles on it. Um, 612 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: maybe I got the only one that it didn't happen to. 613 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: But there's a car forty one tho original miles, never 614 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: been touched and it doesn't leak a drop of oil. 615 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: And the cars, the cars, how old, nineteen seventy two. 616 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: It's do the math. It's it's it's not its first 617 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: day at the rodeo. Um, you know, is it a 618 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: tedious job? Yeah? Is it? Is it again? How big 619 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,479 Speaker 1: is the leak? Um? I get what he's saying. Uh, 620 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: you know, it is a performance application. Uh you know, 621 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: I hear there's some performance engine builders all the time, 622 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: which I don't understand. I you know, Um, And truth 623 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: be told, I'm still chasing an oil leak in the 624 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: hot rod that that that comes and goes, and I 625 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: believe that to be remains stealing with me. It's a 626 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: matter of time. Um. I've got to pull the trans 627 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: pull the clutch, pull the bell housing, uh you know, 628 00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: pull the scattered shield, et cetera. So it's a lot 629 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: of work, um for something that puts a couple of 630 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: drops on the ground every you know, every two or 631 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: three months. Uh you know. In the answer I got 632 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: from the engine builder was yeah, they all do that. 633 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: It's a hot rod, you know. Um yeah, I don't. 634 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: I don't get it, I you know. So um, one 635 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: of these days, I'm uh, you know, I'm thinking that 636 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: maybe I'll just I'll just I'll replace the rearmains sealed 637 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: by replacing the engine and that solves the whole problem. 638 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, that'll do it. So but just just mentioned 639 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: to him if he does do the rear main, and 640 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure he knows this trick, he's and all it 641 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: sounds like he's an old dog like me. You know, 642 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 1: it's a it's a split rear main, so there's an 643 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,720 Speaker 1: upper half and a lower half, offset the two halves. 644 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: Just just just tell him that. Tell him you read 645 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: it somewhere so you don't insult them, all right, Just 646 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 1: tell me you read somewhere that you off set the 647 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,919 Speaker 1: two halves so that instead of lining up the half 648 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: the seal with the parting line where the cap sits, 649 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 1: if it's offset just a little bit, then it gives 650 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: it a better chance it's ceiling and not leaking. Because 651 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: the area that's uncovered is now minutely caught between the 652 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,399 Speaker 1: two heads looking up online, you'll see what I'm saying. John. 653 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 1: Let me know what you end up doing until the 654 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: next time I'm on anat in the car doctor. God, 655 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. I'll see you