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Speaker 1: Chad and Scooch. I want to buy that guy at buffet. Hello,

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Speaker 1: welcome to a very very special Buffet podcast with Chat

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Speaker 1: stuff we got Scooch in New York. Yeah, I am

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Speaker 1: very very stock, I'll tell you that. Also, there's not

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Speaker 1: enough Like I happen to know a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: who own teams, and so they're not enough identifying because

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Speaker 1: I apply private so there's not enough identifying characteristics for

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Speaker 1: me to really to figure out who he is. All right,

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Speaker 1: give me who you think is going to win the

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Speaker 1: derby this weekend? Because I drink red wine, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go with Vino Rosa, which is red wine. What's Ena

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Speaker 1: Rosa going off that? Right now? I think twelve to

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Speaker 1: one one. Listen, I'm gonna go with Ena Rosa too.

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Speaker 1: What do I know? I hate going with the So

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Speaker 1: you know, I've gone with so many favorites over the years,

438
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Speaker 1: and like I said, I don't have a good track record,

439
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Speaker 1: and one of the only ones I won was one shot,

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Speaker 1: So why not I'm going with Viena Rosa. Uh, coming

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Speaker 1: up next in the podcast Jason Sobel and Paula Duco

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Speaker 1: with honestly the two best gambling stories about athletes and

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Speaker 1: being inside the culture of sports that I have ever heard. Also, Lauduca,

444
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 1: who is a horse racing expert, gives you his take

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Speaker 1: on the derby, but mostly he was just telling a

446
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Speaker 1: crazy freaking story. Uh. Go rate and review the podcast

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Speaker 1: on the iTunes page of the buffet. Find us at

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Speaker 1: Action Network HQ, go to Action Network dot com. He

449
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Speaker 1: is Bob Scucci. Thanks for being in New York for this, buddy, Hey,

450
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Speaker 1: thanks for having me. All right, listen up to Laduca

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Speaker 1: and Sobel. As promised, we have to ridiculously fun gambling

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Speaker 1: stories that have been posted on Action network dot com

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Speaker 1: in the past twenty four hours, UM, that have been

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Speaker 1: picked up far and wide and getting a lot of attention.

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Speaker 1: And so uh, I got both of the guys who

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Speaker 1: wrote those stories on the show. I got Paul Laduca.

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Speaker 1: UH fan favorites. Action Network extraordinaire contributor who if people

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Speaker 1: only know him as sort of MLB all star veteran catcher,

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Speaker 1: UM beloved New York met and Dodger and Marlin, they

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Speaker 1: don't know that he has spent the past ten years

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Speaker 1: being a horse racing analyst for both tv G and

462
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Speaker 1: Fox and New York Racing Association and The Guide. I

463
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 1: think knows more about horse racing than he does about baseball.

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Speaker 1: And he wrote a ridiculously fun story about when he

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Speaker 1: won eighty grand on the Kentucky Derby and it was

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Speaker 1: all happening while he was in the middle of the game.

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Speaker 1: Paul's on the call, and then also Jason Sobel, who

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Speaker 1: wrote a story this morning about a night five years

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Speaker 1: ago today at the beginning of the Wells Fargo Tournament

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Speaker 1: that begins this weekend um in which he was out

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Speaker 1: with philm. Michelson with a bunch of other people at

472
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Speaker 1: a party and everybody got taken by Phil Mickelson in

473
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Speaker 1: what had to be a massive win from Michelson and

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Speaker 1: was a series of small, uh lacking in dignity losses

475
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Speaker 1: for everybody else inclusive, including Jason Sobel, who's on the call. Fellows,

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Speaker 1: what's going on, Jason. Good to hear from you. Paul,

477
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Speaker 1: good to hear from you. Your stories are great. They're

478
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: blowing things up, PAULI there's a lot going on right

479
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: now between the Derby and that story. Yeah, it was

480
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 1: an interesting story to right And when I when I

481
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Speaker 1: was thinking about it, I knew I wanted to write

482
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Speaker 1: the story. I mean, I've told like some of my

483
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 1: closest friends it. Um. And when one of my closest friends, Dave,

484
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: when when you read the article, it's through his eyes,

485
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: because um, I knew when I called him. I called

486
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Speaker 1: him about a week ago and I was like, bro,

487
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: I know you can tell the story just as good

488
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Speaker 1: as me because we were in this together. I want

489
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Speaker 1: your side of the story of you holding my ticket, uh,

490
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: because I couldn't make it because the game was scheduled

491
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Speaker 1: at a certain time right at the derby time, the

492
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Speaker 1: Marlins decided to schedule five twenty five game uh, and

493
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Speaker 1: I wanted to them to the readers to feel, Okay,

494
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Speaker 1: this is where we're here, my buddy who I sent

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Speaker 1: the best with. And then the story of me behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes when I'm playing the game basically in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the game as the Kentucky Derby's going down

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Speaker 1: the back stretch. So yeah, a lot going on this

499
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: first Saturday and May has always been a big thing

500
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Speaker 1: in in our household. I'm growing up. We're gonna get

501
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Speaker 1: to all of it. And we you know you talked

502
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: about on the podcast last week when you had this

503
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: phenomenal story in the podcast last week about as a

504
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: twelve year old making a bet for your dad that

505
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 1: cash at fifteen to one. It was a thousand dollar bet.

506
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: You won fifteen grand. And then we're arrested as soon

507
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Speaker 1: as you made the bet because you weren't supposed to

508
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Speaker 1: be making it, and the ticket taker got fired, and

509
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: your dad tipped her five g's because he felt bad

510
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: she got fired for taking your bet. Jason, you're gonna

511
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: come in. Uh, Paul's gonna tell his story in a minute,

512
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: but come in and tell the Nicholson story. Since you're

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Speaker 1: on site right now at the tournament, tell me about

514
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: the story that you wrote today on Actual network dot com. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you want me to give you the whole story now.

516
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,959
Speaker 1: I can't wait here. Paul story. Actually haven't read his

517
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: story yet, so I want to hear him tell his

518
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Speaker 1: story too. I want you to. I want you to

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Speaker 1: tell your story. And a reminder to everybody that, uh,

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00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: they should go rate the podcast on the iTunes page

521
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 1: for the buffet uh and they should also send in

522
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 1: questions that they have we are gonna start moving all

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00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: of our questions and answers to iTunes reviews. So if

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00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: you have questions for Jason, for me, for Laduca, for

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00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: anybody else in the Action Network universe, then um, you

526
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: need to go to the Action Network to the buffet

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Speaker 1: page and iTunes and send in your uh send in

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00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: your reviews, so and your questions to the reviews. Sorry,

529
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: I'm getting distracted because in a little bit Bob Scucci

530
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: is gonna come in and we're gonna record our podcast

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00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: face to face, and he's texting me right now. So, UM,

532
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: it distracted me. Jason, tell your story about Phil Micholson

533
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: and how he took you for your money. Yeah. So

534
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: this is five years ago to the day. I'm at

535
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Speaker 1: the Quail Hollow Club for the Wells Farga Championship and

536
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: being the lazy media member I am. I wait until

537
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 1: still was out on the sixteen two, which is right

538
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Speaker 1: behind the media center, and myself with what colleagues walked

539
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: out there to say I to fail catch up with

540
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 1: them and see him in a few weeks and we

541
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: walk out there and if you ever want to talk

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00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: to a professional golfer and you're covering an event, go

543
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Speaker 1: to the back night of a Wednesday pro am because

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Speaker 1: they will be more than happy to see even a

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Speaker 1: member of the media. So in any case, we start

546
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: walking down the Fairway and at one point Phil says,

547
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: so you guys come on Saturday night. We say, what

548
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: are you talking about? He said, Oh, I rented out

549
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: this restaurant, uh food, drinks all on me, and then

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00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: we're going to uh watch the Mayweather fight that night.

551
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: Mayweather was fighting a guy named the Ghost Guerrera, who

552
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: I had never heard of until I actually went back

553
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Speaker 1: and did a little research on what exactly happened that night.

554
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Speaker 1: So in any case, we we get there Saturday until

555
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: it was tied for the leave. I've written a column

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Speaker 1: on Phil Micholson ironically, uh that evening, and as soon

557
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: as I finished my column, I go to a party

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Speaker 1: being held and hosted by Phil Micholson and we go

559
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: in there fifty six people, uh, you know, a private

560
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: function and just just a nice little gathering, everyone having

561
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: a up with cocktails, everyone having a little pizza from

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Speaker 1: the place. I mean, you know, nothing special other than

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00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: you would recognize about half people in the place PJ

564
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Speaker 1: twour players and caddies and uh, so before the undercar

565
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: is about to start for the Mayweather fight, Phil stands

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Speaker 1: up in front of the room and says, look, guys, uh,

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Speaker 1: the staff here is terrific. Anything you need, they'll take

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Speaker 1: care of you. And just relax, enjoy yourselves, have fun.

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Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, wandering is encouraged. And so

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Speaker 1: the first fight of the undercard comes up, and there

571
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: might have been a couple of little bits here and there,

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Speaker 1: just uh just for guy's gettle action, but for the

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Speaker 1: most part, no one's really paying too much attention. And

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Speaker 1: then the second that was about to come on, and

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Speaker 1: still stands up in front of the room again says, well, guys,

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Speaker 1: I know I said I wouldn't make another announcement, but

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00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: got the second fight. Uh got this guy l Explode

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00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: Civo is his nickname, Alexander Munio's. He has uh thirty

579
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: career and knockouts. This guy has been going at it forever.

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00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: This guy's held titles. UM very good fighter, and he's

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Speaker 1: going against this this young kid who's moving up to

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Speaker 1: weight class. He's fighting for the super bantam weight title.

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Speaker 1: He's never fought in this class before, and you know what,

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Speaker 1: he's an underdog, but I'm killing this kid, so I'll

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00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: take any bets you've got and even money. If anyone

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Speaker 1: wants to bet me, I'll take the kid. I'll take

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Speaker 1: the underdog. Now here's the point where all of us,

588
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: knowing Phil Nicholson, should have done a little too diligence.

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Speaker 1: What we would have found is that this kid was

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Speaker 1: five and oh the year before and one of the

591
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: more promising boxers in the entire world. Instead, we all

592
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Speaker 1: just raise our hands and start weaving money around, saying, sure, Phil,

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Speaker 1: I'll do that. Sounds great. I'll take the favorite and

594
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: even money. Why not? And so the bolt starts and

595
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: it was over the minute it started. Uh. Phil's guy

596
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: just started bumbling our guy. Uh through Uh A nice

597
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: little combination in the first round. Again, in the second round,

598
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Speaker 1: he's ahead on all the judges card. Finally, a minute

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Speaker 1: into the fifth round he wins by technical knockout. Phil

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Speaker 1: then walks around the room plucks the cash out of

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Speaker 1: everybody's hands, and, as I wrote the piece, h a

602
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: dumbfounded champion. He played the role very well where he

603
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: walked up and people said, man, I'm really sorry about

604
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: that boy. I just got lucky there, you know. I

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00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: guess I was just a lucky win for me, And

606
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: then I didn't think that wasn't happened and just playing

607
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: the part of perfection took my took my hundred from me,

608
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: and I was happy to give it to him because

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00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: I still can tell the story now. It wasn't ntil

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00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: I left and I was driving back to my hotel

611
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: later that night when I realized Phil played all of us.

612
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: Phil invited us to this restaurant, was the generous host,

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00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: paid for everything, probably made double what he had paid

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Speaker 1: to rent the place out for the night just on

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Speaker 1: those bets alone. And knowing Phil, he probably tipped out

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Speaker 1: all the profit to the white staff and wound up

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Speaker 1: even for the night and wins the good Guy Award

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00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: just for hosting everybody. So it is a classic Phil

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Speaker 1: Nicholson story. Um, I've been waiting to tell it for years,

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Speaker 1: and this being the five year anniversary of that week,

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Speaker 1: I figured as a perfect fun to all that story

622
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: you got snickerd by Phil Nicholson completely probably let me

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Speaker 1: ask them James, did he break down the fighter before?

624
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: He told you guys like he broke them down? He basically,

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00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: I mean he did without giving us all of the

626
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: information and that's why it was But it was such

627
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: a good move by Still. I mean, you know, it's

628
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: as if someone had said to you last night, Hey, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know the Warriors. You know they're kind of old,

630
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: and you know that they've got one of the biggest

631
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: stars injured, and uh, if you guys want the Pelicans,

632
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: you guys can take the Pelicans. You know, they've got

633
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: maybe the best player in the NBA. It's got a

634
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: dominant inside. No one can guard him. Um, if if

635
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: you guys want to take the Pelicans, I guess I'll

636
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: take Warriors. And it's very much as if he had

637
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: sort of given you the information without giving you all

638
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: of the information, and yeah, if he he kind of

639
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: played down this young kid who was moving up a

640
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: weight class, and you know, I guess I'll take him,

641
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: you know, just just for the hell of it, just

642
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: we can have some action going on. And what we

643
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: all didn't realized, of course, we didn't look up this guy.

644
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: Uh Leo's Santa Cruz, I believe it was his name,

645
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: and he was more and more promising. I'm not a

646
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: big boxing guy, but who's one of the more promising

647
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: boxers out there? And apparently uh the guy showed his

648
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: stuff that night, because I remember watching it, like a

649
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: minute into the fight, we're looking at each other like, okay,

650
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: we just lost. We knew it right away. Uh. I

651
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: just love that. I love everything about that story. But

652
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: there's one thing that I can't figure out. How common

653
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: is it on this Saturday night of a tournament for like,

654
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: for there to be a party. Probably not very common,

655
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: but not uncommon either, I think still still, for whatever reason,

656
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: does it in Charlotte just about every year. That's the

657
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: only one that I've been to personally. Um I've covered

658
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: this tournament kind of on and off over the last

659
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: twelve years or so. Um, so I'm not always here.

660
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: But he does it a lot. Look, especially as he

661
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: was in the last pair because he was tied for

662
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: the lead going into Sunday, you've got to do something

663
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: sorry night to keep you busy. If you go home

664
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: or back to the hotel and go to sleep at

665
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: nine o'clock at night, you're gonna wake up at six

666
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: in the morning with at two o'clock tea time and

667
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: have no idea what to do with yourself for a while.

668
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: So uh and and as I wrote the start, soil

669
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: was tipping on a red wine. I don't want to

670
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 1: make it down like this is some crazy party until

671
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: it's tied to the lead and uh he's hammering down

672
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: shots or anything like that. At the bar, he was

673
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: sipping on a glass of red wine. It was a

674
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: very sort of casual party. There was nothing out of

675
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: control other than our gambling losses. I just love the idea.

676
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: It's sort of the antithesis of I can tell you

677
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 1: right now, the Super Bowl has played at what six

678
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: in the afternoon, six in the evening, and nobody is

679
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 1: like there's no casual get together the night before the game,

680
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: or like all the players are hanging out so they'll

681
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: sleep a little later. Like Polly, you played professional baseball

682
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 1: at the highest level for a long time. You guys

683
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,439
Speaker 1: made the playoffs. You went to an NLCS, Like, tell

684
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: me on the day of that, like the night before

685
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: a game when the game was having a seven oh

686
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: five start, What were you doing the night before? Um,

687
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: you know you you could do what you wanted to.

688
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: It depended, you know. I played every day, so it

689
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: was different catching. Uh did I go out and have

690
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: my fun on the Long Island? Yeah? I mean that

691
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: was the one great thing about playing in New York

692
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: when I was with the Mets or in l A

693
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: is that they recognize you and they camped you in

694
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: those kind of places. I can remember No. Six when

695
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: we had a good Mets you know, I didn't pay

696
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: for one meal on Long Island. But we used to

697
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: try to keep it to once, you know, one time,

698
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: one time a night, or one time a week, or

699
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: if we had a Sunday night game on ESPN and

700
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: we maybe go out on Saturday night, or if we

701
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: had a Thursday off we got on Wednesday. We tried

702
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: to keep it, you know, somewhat too you know, not

703
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: too much party. And the thing is, when you play

704
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: every day, you just can't do it. Now, if you're

705
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,720
Speaker 1: a pitcher and you're playing pitching once every five days,

706
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 1: you could do that kind of stuff. But I mean

707
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: me catching nine in the game. The perception is all

708
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: guys go out and party. Guys do a lot of

709
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: different things to to do stuff that might have been

710
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: the case of some guys. And yeah, I'm not wasn't

711
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: an angel, But most of the time you're not going

712
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: out and getting slaughtered before you gotta play a game

713
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: the next day. I don't even think it's like it's

714
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: about getting slaughter. Like just the idea that the idea

715
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: that there's a late game the next day and you

716
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 1: don't want to be up at six o'clock in the morning.

717
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: It's so an anthema to how people usually think about

718
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 1: what you were doing the night before as an athlete.

719
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: I actually I have no judgment done this, Like I

720
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: actually think it's a good idea. Why not go out

721
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: the night before relaxed, like get your mind off everything.

722
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: I I'll never forget a story before Miguel Cabra came

723
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: out with his struggles with alcohol um and he publicly

724
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: said it. I played with him with the Marlins and

725
00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: he showed up one day. Uh, he had a one

726
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: o'clock game. He showed up to the ballpark at twelve

727
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: thirties and Jack McKean came up to me and said,

728
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: what should we do? I gotta sit him? And we

729
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: were in the middle of the playoff run. I'm like,

730
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: I can't have a guy show up. I'm like, there's

731
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: fifteen games left basically in the season. Jack, do you

732
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: suspend them? Now? What are you gonna do? Who cares?

733
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,479
Speaker 1: And you know, he obviously was pisched drunk that night.

734
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 1: I don't know, you could smell it a little bit.

735
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: He had three home runs. You you tell me like

736
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: I watched the guy pisched drunk kid three home runs.

737
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: I also watched a guy pissed drunk kid to walk

738
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: off home run one of the first articles that I played.

739
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: Some guys are better. They played better intoxicated. It takes

740
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: a k away the nerves or or it takes away

741
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: this and that. You know, he was playing on thinking.

742
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: I think mcgel thought he was having an off day,

743
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: so he went out. We had a day game the

744
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: next day and Jack Trader Jack was putting him in

745
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: the lineup, and I remember he was like okay, and

746
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: he came to the ballpark in four for four with

747
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: three home runs, Like this guy is that good? So

748
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: you know, I don't judge guys if they come to

749
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: the ballpark drunk and they don't hit. It's like the

750
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: Harvey thing. They say, oh, he pitched well, you know,

751
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,439
Speaker 1: it's only gonna be an issue until he pitches bad

752
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: where he plays bad and they come and they show

753
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 1: up to the ballpark drunk. You know, listen, I think

754
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: everyone will tell you that I'm a much better podcast.

755
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: I was drunk than sober. And as soon as I

756
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: start doing drunk, I think the numbers, the numbers for

757
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: this podcast are gonna rise. Let me give it. Let

758
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 1: me give you a quick story. Uh, Monday and Tuesday

759
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: are kind of the usual party nights, even like a

760
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: Sunday nights. Guys are flying. A lot of guys fly

761
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: private and Sunday night after a long week, I'll uh

762
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: throwback few drinks on the plane. But Monday Tuesday night,

763
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: you can get away with it. He was kind of

764
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: easing your way into the week. So true story. Last night,

765
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 1: I go out of a couple of buddies who worked

766
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: for the SEC network here in Charlotte. So we got together,

767
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: we went out and had dinner, and I'm coming back

768
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: to the hotel. I get in the yellow vater um

769
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: in about eleven fifteen eleven thirty last night, and there's

770
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: a guy holding a drink stumbling into the elevator and

771
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: I'm looking at him and he kind of smiles at me.

772
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: He goes rough night. He goes, all I can tell

773
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: you don't bet on Ricky and Rory this week. Look

774
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 1: at that? Oh yeah, why is that? He goes, Oh,

775
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: I was out with him tonight, and I tell you

776
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 1: they can't recover after this. And and of course Ricky

777
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: and Rarrior to the betting favorites this week. I like

778
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: both of them. They've each one year at Quell Hollow,

779
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 1: so I really like him. And I'm sitting there, of course,

780
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: trying to disseminate this inflation, like do I want to

781
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: listen to the guy who's stumbling into the elevator and

782
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 1: thirty at night on a Tuesday night, And they said

783
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: he kind of predictions and bets off of that. Probably not,

784
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: And yet it's going to be in the back of

785
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: my mind the entire week. If Rory and Ricky don't

786
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 1: play well, come Sunday, after you I'm gonna be thinking

787
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: about that guy in the elevator. I am because of

788
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: that story. That's like getting a bathroom tid Milzy. It's

789
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 1: like going to the bathroom and getting a tip on

790
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: a horse. If you're at the racetrack, fortunes are made

791
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:14,479
Speaker 1: in the bathroom. That's how you win. Uh it pray

792
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: that's a great story by jameson there. Because you do,

793
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: you hear so many different stories, Oh, don't play on

794
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: this horse, or don't bet I'm this guy. This guy

795
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: was doing this, this guy was doing that. Uh, there's

796
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: so many different theories and in some aspects, would you

797
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: agree don't you need to handicap somewhat the handicapper. Yeah,

798
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: that's a great point. And I mean, I you know,

799
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: look at the source, and I mean the guy, the

800
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: guy couldn't have done any better for me if I

801
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: had walked up to him and said, Hi, I'm Jason

802
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: Silbel of the Action Network. I'm trying to handicap this

803
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: week's field. What do you think of the favorites? I

804
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: mean it's almost like I set him up for the

805
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: question and he's like, Oh, I got something good for

806
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: you here, let me, let me, let me give it

807
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: to you. I mean, the guy looked at me, has

808
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 1: no idea why, and I'm not wearing any golf clothes

809
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: or any thing like that. Uh, it just works out. Yeah,

810
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:08,439
Speaker 1: don't don't bet on Rickey and Moory this week. I mean,

811
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: I think handicapping the handicapper is actually there should be

812
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: like a subset for that, because you're right, like, can

813
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: you trust this guy or not? Paul Tell tell the

814
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: tell the story that you wrote about when you won

815
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: eighty grand on the derby and and you were like,

816
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: how did you make the bet? How did you decide

817
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: how much money did you put down? Originally, give us

818
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: the details on that, like what was it like when

819
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: you're in the dugout and your buddies got this ticket

820
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 1: and you're trying to figure out if this is gonna

821
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: cash or not. Well, yeah, the story goes back to

822
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: it was oh five, and I became good friends. They're

823
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: great friends with Mike Smith, the Hall of Fame jockey,

824
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: because we lived above each other. Um. He actually went

825
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: to superintendent one day and complained because our schedules are

826
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: in the same so almost like golfers in and baseball players.

827
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: You know, golfer's gotta be up staying with jockeys at

828
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: five in the morning, and I would be up at like,

829
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: you know, midnight coming home from the game means. And

830
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: he was complaining I was making too much noise. We

831
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: became friends. So fast forward about a year later. Gives

832
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: me this horse called Jacobo in a maiden race. I

833
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: bet out on the horse that day. I think I

834
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: had five hundred across. I played some exact as I

835
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: had made about oh five to ten thousand somewhere in

836
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: that area. Now the horse was a deep closer. He

837
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: had run into San Nino Derby. There's no pace in

838
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 1: the Santa Nida Derby at all, so he needs pace

839
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: to run into these horses to run into. So Mike

840
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: had told me, I really feel he has a big shot. Now.

841
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: I had bet futures after his maiden win in Vegas.

842
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: The crazy part is the futures were less than what

843
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: he paid on track that day. I think I got

844
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: him at forty and forty five to one because I

845
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: knew he was bred to get the Derby distance. Now,

846
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: the day of the derby, the Marlins side the schedule

847
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 1: a five games, and the Derby's about set to go off.

848
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: It like it's so eight somewhere in that area. And

849
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: usually know you played seven o'clock games on a Saturday,

850
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: or you play at one o'clock game. This is the

851
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: weirdest start time. I don't know why they decided to

852
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: do it this. So now I'm I'm thinking, all right,

853
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss the derby. So it starts to rain, Okay, Now,

854
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: I uh, you could Old Joel Robbie Stadium where the

855
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: Marlins and the Dolphins used to play. You could throw

856
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 1: a stone to the old call the race course which

857
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: is now gold Stream Park West. My good friend Mike

858
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: Welch and Dave will Howard we used to go over there,

859
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: and and our third base coach, which was uh Coxy

860
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: Greg Cox. We used to um go over there bet

861
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: the races at around noon one. Back in those days

862
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 1: you had tebow. Uh you'd go play the game, you'd

863
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: go watch it. Well, it comes to Derby Day, I

864
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: give all my bets to Coxy. I'm telling him, listen,

865
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: this is what I want. I want, uh because I

866
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: gotta be there early for the game. You know when

867
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: I was catching those days and oh five, I was

868
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: had a bad hamstring, so I had to be there

869
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: I think at noon. I was usually there are five

870
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: hours before the game. So I'm giving them all these bets.

871
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: I put five hundred to win a place on the horse.

872
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: I had picked fours galore, which is you know, picked

873
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: the four races before that, three races before that into him. Um.

874
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: I had futures on them. I had I would say,

875
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: close to two and futures on them that we're gonna

876
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 1: pay me back close to nine to ten grand somewhere

877
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: in that area. Um I had probably bet close to

878
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: I would say completely on the race, maybe a little

879
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: bit less about five thousand to consider the props. So

880
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 1: now the rain, the way ends, and I'm the Derby's

881
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: like fifteen minutes post. I'm like, oh, hey, the rain.

882
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: I'm looking outside. I data call, hey, guys, go to

883
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: the bullpen. Start warming up. They're gonna start the game

884
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: at six oh five. I'm like, you've got to be

885
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 1: killing me. The Derby post is six o eight. It's

886
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 1: just insane, so unlike I gotta go down to the bullpen.

887
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: And I was always the catcher that I always finished

888
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 1: off the picture, like the books, I Catch you catcher

889
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 1: would start then I got Backett. I'm getting back Gett

890
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: finished in the game. You know, you stay away from

891
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: the starting pitcher. Meanwhile, all the other position players know

892
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: I got the Derby, and uh, you know I had

893
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: bet the Derby. And you always have a Derby pool.

894
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: You know you have twenty twenty guys. You all are

895
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 1: throwing fifty or a hunter bucks and he's throwing out

896
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: of a hat. I even paid, I forget who I paid.

897
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: I even paid somebody for the Jocko bill because when

898
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: they saw fifty to one. They said, no chance. I'm like,

899
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: I'll buy that from you for two because it was

900
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: the pool. Two thousand goes to the winner. It was

901
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: a hundred dollars in you pick a horse out of

902
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: the hat. So now we're out on the field and

903
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: we're playing, and I can look in the dugout and

904
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: Mike Lowe has the day off, Jeff Conine has the

905
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: day off, and a couple other guys, Doncho Willis. They're

906
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 1: all pointing to me like there's like going in the gate.

907
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: I'm on the field, so boom, next kitch, groundball, double play.

908
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: We get at the inning, so I literally I'm run

909
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: into the cloudouse. I'm running in the class guy. All

910
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: my gear on. The horses are on the back side,

911
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: so they're running up the backside. Tom Durkin's making the

912
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: call and all this chaos. It's a big, big, you know,

913
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: Calvary charge going to the gams and fleet Alex is

914
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: the favorite. He goes to the front or he's right there,

915
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: and then I can hear him say Jacobo. That's all

916
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 1: I heard, remember Tom Durkins saying the race caller, and

917
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: I just started going nuts, and it seemed like maybe

918
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: a minute was like five and segments. I'm high five

919
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: and every clubhouse guy because here's the deal. I'm telling

920
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: every single guy with the Marlins, I like this horse. Okay,

921
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: they're all telling me I'm crazy. Where the Cloudouse kids

922
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: are all staying, hey, I'm gonna put at these five

923
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: bucks across well, all the Claubouse kids are giving me

924
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: high fives. We're going not this and that. I look

925
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: up and I just lost track of time. The bad

926
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: boy comes running in and goes, hey, Duke, what are

927
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,959
Speaker 1: you doing. I'm like what? Because the umpires were waiting

928
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,720
Speaker 1: for you for a minute. You're on deck, you're writing.

929
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: So I'm like what. So I literally run. So I

930
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: wrent out to the to the dugout. Mckenns like, hey, hey,

931
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: he always used to call me DeLuca, DeLuca, where are

932
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: you been? He never knew my name, which was great

933
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 1: Jack for the bat like, and I'm like, uh, don't

934
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: worry about yeah. So I took off all my gear

935
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: and I could see Lowell and all those guys are

936
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: like smiling, laughing, don't want to say nothing, And I

937
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: was like, I forget it was pitching this as I

938
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: wish I was pitching bat. I tapped the catcher and

939
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: I'm like, I was like, listen, I just want eight

940
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: thousand dollars on the derby. Tell the pictures to throw

941
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 1: the ball right down the middle, and I am gonna

942
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: ground out. And I did. I grounded out the shortstops

943
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: so weakly, and I ran down the first I didn't

944
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 1: even feel my feet touched the ground. Now happy I've

945
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 1: ever had in my life. I ran into the dugout.

946
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: And then when I ran into the dugout, my gear

947
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: was still in the clubhouse because I took my gear

948
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: off in the clubhouse. Had to go back to the

949
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 1: cluboff because I wanted to make sure did he win?

950
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,720
Speaker 1: Who ran second? And all this all the other crazy stuff.

951
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: I I think, like I knew I had won, but

952
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 1: then I didn't know I had won. And that's why

953
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: I wrote the article. My buddy had the tickets over

954
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: at calder He called the clubhouse to to alert me

955
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: to horse one because he's thinking I'm playing, and he

956
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: can hear me in the background, and he carry off

957
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: the phone. He would never call the club out, but

958
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,959
Speaker 1: he hung up the phone because the cluboff guy goes, Dude,

959
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: who the heck are you like he didn't know who

960
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: he was when it was my buddy just calling up saying, hey, bro,

961
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: you just want to shoot the money. That is one

962
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: of the best sports stories I've ever heard. I was insane, insane.

963
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: I was something I'll never forget. And it's like one

964
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 1: of your friends, Mike Smith wins the race. It's one

965
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: of the longest shots and one of the chances. Very

966
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: rarely do you you're you're getting paid on track more

967
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: or like say, like then you you've gotten futured? What

968
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: four months earlier? I mean, I thought the horse would

969
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: be like twenty to one come Derby Day, but he

970
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: tanked and his other other starts to be fifty two

971
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: one on Derby Day. Oh my god, Um listen, uh.

972
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: I think one thing I do have to do is, um,

973
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: you are our horse racing expert at Action Network, So

974
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: I do need you to give me like your top

975
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: three favorites for the Derby before I let you guys go.

976
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: Um well, I do like Magna Moon, Um, he's trying

977
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: to break a curse. No horse has won the Derby

978
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: that hasn't started to race at age two since Apollo

979
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: did it in eight two. Now, Bodie meister almost did it.

980
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: He ran second last year. Uh horse rams third that

981
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,439
Speaker 1: was there, but he was a distance third. I can't

982
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: remember his name of body. Mister just lost. I'll have another.

983
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: It's the trend that I think is gonna get cracked

984
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 1: sooner or later. Magna Moon's first start was on January thirteen,

985
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: So you're telling me that curse is fourteen days if

986
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: he starts on December thirtieth. There's no such thing. I

987
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 1: just think he's the real deal. He's four for four,

988
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: he's won over three different race tracks. He won the

989
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 1: Arkansas Derby. I really thought he was very good at Arkansas.

990
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: He's my number one. Justified for Baffort is number two.

991
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: He's the same horse. He's trying to break the same curse.

992
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 1: The two horses that are probably gonna be favorite did

993
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: not start as two year old. But Bob Bafford would

994
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,720
Speaker 1: be the great Papovitch, the Bill Belichick of horse trainers.

995
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: He's the best of all time. So that's why you

996
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 1: got to include him. And then it would probably be Mendelsohn.

997
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: He's a wild card horse. He's a horse. This is

998
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: a crazy horse. It's europe best camp. They have never

999
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: ever won a Derby since Thing Bold Arrangement ran second.

1000
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,280
Speaker 1: But they have brought horses over from Europe from Kentucky

1001
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: and have tried and tried. Last year that brought over

1002
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: a horse called Thunders who started bucking out of the

1003
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: gate and and just lost his race, and he ended

1004
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 1: up winning the Dude Bai World Cup. So he's a

1005
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: real horse. It's just a hard thing to do. But

1006
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: this horse, Mendelston, they paid three million four and he's

1007
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: a brother to Instan Mission Instan Miissive is a sire

1008
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: to one of the horses in the race, Audible, who's

1009
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: gonna be one of the choices too. So a giant

1010
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: pedigree that they paid three million dollars for that is

1011
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: a definitely a wild card. So those will be my

1012
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 1: top three horses. But I do love Magna Moon. I'm

1013
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: going with Mendelssohn. I love Royalty. I'm a huge fan.

1014
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: I might even go to England. I said this to you, you, Jason,

1015
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: doesn't he seem like a teen crumpet kind of guy.

1016
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: Maybe we lost, so maybe I lost. I'm thinking I

1017
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: thought you guys are still going. I've got one other

1018
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: guy that told me Mendelsohn. I don't hey, de Luca, Luca,

1019
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: I don't even think. I don't even think sob heard

1020
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: you're the way you ripped me. I think he was

1021
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 1: like fading out hard dig and he did not come

1022
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: back for it. Yeah, I was asking you. You you

1023
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: you picture Millman as a tea and crumpet guy. He

1024
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: likes the bread. Oh I miss that. Yeah, no, yeah,

1025
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: I can see that. Yeah, by the way ian crumpet guy,

1026
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: you know, getting served on the silver platters, like, yeah,

1027
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Listen, funk, both of you. Also, what

1028
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: the funk are you doing that? You did? Like you

1029
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: you just faded out like you weren't even listening. Are

1030
00:52:55,560 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: you not engaging in the podcast? What happened? Scores? I'm

1031
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: trying to work here, I got you know, I'm trying

1032
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: to like multitask as I'm doing. I don't know you

1033
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: guys had covered for a while. I do, but I

1034
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: will kind of make up for it. Chat. I want

1035
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: to double down on my phil story and give you

1036
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: one more. Alright, I make up to my brief absence.

1037
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Okay, So here here's an inside the rope

1038
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 1: still story and uh, the the Tuesday money game, which

1039
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 1: was sort of celebrated for a few years. It's it's

1040
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: kind of dissipated a little bit. I think the Tours

1041
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: put the kai bosh on it. They just don't like

1042
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: the whole attention and bringing towards gambling, and it's not whatever.

1043
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: It was great. It probably lasted three or four years.

1044
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 1: Phil Nicholson was the commissioner of the Tuesday Game, and

1045
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: on any given week you'd have some combination of Phil,

1046
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: Dustin Johnson, Ricky Fowler, Brendan Steele, Kicking Bradley, Uh, Jimmy Walker,

1047
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: um a handful of guys who would sort of make

1048
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: up this fosome and the stakes that still always had

1049
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: were enough to keep you interested but not enough to

1050
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: make you uncomfortable. And what it was, we all found out,

1051
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: was basically a two thousand dollar bet with a one

1052
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: time thousand dollar press and so the most who can

1053
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: lose was three grand. And for these guys who are

1054
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: playing for a million dollars on any given week, um

1055
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: as still always put it, you should want to play

1056
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: for that kind of money on a Tuesday because it

1057
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: kind of gets you ready to play for a lot

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Speaker 1: more money later in the week. So um, you know,

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00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 1: I know that sounds like maybe a lot of money

1060
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Speaker 1: to some people listening out there. If you're just playing

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00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: for a round of golf. These guys are obviously uh

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00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: wheeling and dealing for a whole lot more later that

1063
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: week anyway. So uh so in any case that that

1064
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't play all the time, and you know the results

1065
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: had always been back and forth. So this was two

1066
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: years ago at the Players Championship. Uh Colt Nost and

1067
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: Jamie Lovemark, who were not part of this regular game,

1068
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: came up to Phil and said, hey, you know, we

1069
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys want some action on on Tuesday.

1070
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: And so philter is the Brennan Steel and says, hey,

1071
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: we got ourselves a couple of pigeons. Let's tell them

1072
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 1: the game is a little more than we usually played

1073
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: for us. So I think they played for uh four

1074
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,280
Speaker 1: and two instead of two and one, and they doubled

1075
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: up on these guys. And and so they go out

1076
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 1: and play, and through sixteen holes, Nos and love Mark

1077
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 1: are one up on Michaelson and Steele and as they're

1078
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 1: walking off the sixteenth grew I mean Phil for insta

1079
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: Colt nose caddy and says Hey man, I'm really sorry,

1080
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: and the caddy says, what do you mean, what are

1081
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: you talking about? He said, Oh, we're gonna win the

1082
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: next two holes, and your guy is gonna be moping

1083
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 1: around here the rest of the week like he just

1084
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,479
Speaker 1: lost his dog. And caddy looks like he goes, okay,

1085
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,760
Speaker 1: feel whatever, keep talking. Well they have seventeen. The famous

1086
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: Island Green still stiffed one too, about three ft on

1087
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: seventeen makes the butt squares the match, and now they're

1088
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: one up in the press and they pressed at that

1089
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: point too. They get to eighteen, and I still telling

1090
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: me the story. Uh hours after the match it ended.

1091
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 1: He said, on eighteen, Uh, nose to the left, Mark,

1092
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: get up there. They both hit it in the trees

1093
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: on the right. Steely hits his in the right. I,

1094
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: of course just hit mine right down the middle, because

1095
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: that's what you're supposed to do the fairways down the middle.

1096
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 1: So I figured I would just hit it in the fairway.

1097
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: And it's still talking, and uh, very much in his

1098
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 1: uh Phil sarcasm says, you know the fairways right there,

1099
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 1: I'll hit in the fairway. So uh. Then Phil says,

1100
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Speaker 1: you know, nose the short of the green and love

1101
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: Mark doesn't get there, and uh he goes I'm about

1102
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,280
Speaker 1: to hit and all of a sudden, like a butterfly

1103
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 1: coming out of the sky, I see this ball just

1104
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: dropping so ever so slightly right onto the green, bounces

1105
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: right towards the hole. It stops a foot from the hole.

1106
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: It's my partner, Brendan Steele, who walks out of the woods.

1107
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 1: I couldn't even see where he was. I think he

1108
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: walked right across the water towards the green and and

1109
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: just tapped in his butt. We win the match. I

1110
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: walk off the green and I turned the colt nose caddy,

1111
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: I said, I told you, and just walked right. That

1112
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: is stone cold balls right there, isn't it that? Uh real?

1113
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 1: I wish I had the skill to be able to

1114
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: like make that claim and pull that off at the

1115
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Speaker 1: same time. I don't think there's anything I could I

1116
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: could make that bet out other than like correcting someone's grammar.

1117
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: But you don't, you know, you know, Michelson and I

1118
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: have in common both for both sun devils must be

1119
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,919
Speaker 1: in the blood over there in Arizona. There's nothing else

1120
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Speaker 1: to do. It's so dry. All you can do is gamble,

1121
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: listen boys. Uh, those were amazing, amazing story. Even though

1122
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: Sobel totally faded out for for a few minutes there,

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00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: he came back strong. Um. Everybody should go into the

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Speaker 1: buffet page and iTunes. They should rate the podcast, they

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Speaker 1: should review the podcast. They should send in comments, but

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00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: more importantly they sus send in questions. Whether it's for

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00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: me or Sobel or Laduca a k A to Luca,

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Speaker 1: or for Scooch or for anybody else. We will answer

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Speaker 1: your questions on the air. Um. Action Network h Q

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Speaker 1: is the Twitter handle. Action Network dot com is the site.

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Speaker 1: The Buffet is the podcast. You can unsubscribe and then

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Speaker 1: resubscribe and then you can rate it and review it

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00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: and ask your questions on the iTunes page. Uh, Fellas,

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Speaker 1: that was fantastic, Really welcome.