Speaker 1: The volume This week on Prime Cuts, Chad Millman Sharper Square.
Speaker 1: We've both been pretty hot recently, John Middelkoff on Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 1: Jordan Love and Caleb Williams and my top takes of
Speaker 1: the week. You know, my first takeaway on Philadelphia's resounding
Speaker 1: win in the second half, you know they just leaned
Speaker 1: on them. Is so much of Miami. I've been calling
Speaker 1: him the speedboat of the NFL. You know, the fake
Speaker 1: Gucci shoes, loafers, the fake gold watch, the speedboat. You know,
Speaker 1: it's really fast and really flashy and really fun. But
Speaker 1: this team's not built for November, December, January football. And
Speaker 1: that's why the Kansas City Chiefs are the current dynasty.
Speaker 1: They can do both. They can play real defense and
Speaker 1: dominate the line of scrimmage and be flashy and fun.
Speaker 1: Miami has yet to prove they can just do the
Speaker 1: flashy fun stuff which flourishes in September and October November,
Speaker 1: and then it doesn't. So the two teams that have
Speaker 1: faced them, Buffalo and Philadelphia, that are physical teams, have
Speaker 1: pushed them all over the ring. But let me talk
Speaker 1: about Philadelphia first. That you know, I don't like the aesthetics,
Speaker 1: the optics of the brotherly shove, the tush push, whatever
Speaker 1: you want to call it. And I do think you
Speaker 1: have to worry about I mean, the NFL's a TV show.
Speaker 1: It is. Baseball has never understood this. Networks have helped
Speaker 1: them a little over the last few years, but the
Speaker 1: NFL's always understood. We make our money in TV. We're
Speaker 1: a TV show. It's not good TV. It's why the
Speaker 1: NFL's cut back on preseason games. Empty seats looks bad.
Speaker 1: It's why the NFL got rid of the no catch rule.
Speaker 1: It looked bad. It's really smart. You're a TV show.
Speaker 1: That's where all the money comes from. So I don't
Speaker 1: think it looks very good, and I don't think you
Speaker 1: want everybody in the league doing it. But I was
Speaker 1: thinking about this tonight. Why does the tush push the
Speaker 1: broaderly shove work for Philadelphia? Well, two reasons. They have
Speaker 1: the best center, Jason Kelson probably in over a decade
Speaker 1: in the NFL top five center ever. And Jalen Hurts,
Speaker 1: a small, powerful, six hundred pound bench press quarterback, was
Speaker 1: built for it. Well, that's just the coach identifying the
Speaker 1: talent of his players. Innovative ingenuity. Don't we want to
Speaker 1: reward that in all businesses. It's not like the Eagles
Speaker 1: have a passive owner. You know, Jeffrey Lourie owns it,
Speaker 1: and they have this guy that owns five percent, and
Speaker 1: he's a shoe designer and he created a cleat that
Speaker 1: he put a patent on that he won't let anybody
Speaker 1: else build. And the cleat has an ability to has
Speaker 1: some sort of physical advantage over other shoes in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and nobody else can buy it or use it or no.
Speaker 1: That feels like the Houston Astros. This is a coaching
Speaker 1: staff saying hurts his strength, Jason Kelsey. And they design
Speaker 1: a play that people are trying to duplicate and they can't.
Speaker 1: It's a business model nobody can duplicate. And for that reason,
Speaker 1: because I'm all for trying new stuff, I kind of
Speaker 1: respect the hell out of it. It's not good to
Speaker 1: look at. I wouldn't want to see. You know, when
Speaker 1: the Wildcat started, thank god, it didn't work very long.
Speaker 1: Do you really want the NFL hiking the ball to
Speaker 1: a tailback? It's not It doesn't look good. And this
Speaker 1: stuff matters. I mean, the commissioners that understand the television
Speaker 1: dynamic and baseball. You know, Bud Seely didn't. He was
Speaker 1: he was leaning into steam heads and traditionalists. They're not
Speaker 1: paying the bills TV is. So I don't love the
Speaker 1: look of it. I don't love the look of it.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, some teams are trying to duplicate
Speaker 1: it with six five quarterbacks and six six quarterbacks and
Speaker 1: skinny quarterbacks. It doesn't work, but it is innovative. There's
Speaker 1: a genius to it. It's a coaching staff identifying it,
Speaker 1: kind of like it, learning to like it. So it
Speaker 1: was an upset weekend in the NFL as the Vikings,
Speaker 1: who played several levels above themselves, beat the forty nine
Speaker 1: Ers twenty two to seventeen at home, surprising for a
Speaker 1: lot of reasons. The Vikings weren't very good this season,
Speaker 1: the Niners were excellent, and that Kirk Cousins historically shrinks
Speaker 1: in primetime games. He has a bad record on Monday
Speaker 1: Night Football and against playoff teams in his career, and
Speaker 1: was about after that first interception was about as good
Speaker 1: as I think I've ever seen Kirk Cousins play. We
Speaker 1: also saw the bill's big favorites get beat by the
Speaker 1: you know, BB gun offense of the New England Patriots.
Speaker 1: A couple of small upsets, but four to one win.
Speaker 1: Teams went on to win this weekend, and it happens
Speaker 1: in the NFL. The margins are much closer. It's why
Speaker 1: the NFL is so much more popular than college football
Speaker 1: is because you go into a college football weekend and
Speaker 1: you know, if you get two upsets, it feels really special.
Speaker 1: In the NFL, you get weekends like this when teams
Speaker 1: that are going nowhere beat teams with a really good
Speaker 1: shot to make the Super Bowl. You know, again, I
Speaker 1: said this today on FS one. I don't think less
Speaker 1: of the Detroit Lions getting clobbered by the Ravens. NFC
Speaker 1: teams are one in sixteen against Lamar Jackson, right Like,
Speaker 1: if you've never played against Lamar Jackson live, it's a
Speaker 1: shock to the system. You get avalanched. The way to
Speaker 1: beat a Lamar Jackson a team like that is you
Speaker 1: know you're playing repeatedly and can figure out la Rubik's
Speaker 1: cube a little on how to slow down Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: So you know, I don't think anything less of the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. I think the forty nine Ers. When
Speaker 1: they have Trent Williams back and Deebo Samuel and I
Speaker 1: have a complete unit. They won't be playing. There's a
Speaker 1: good chance they will be playing a playoff game or
Speaker 1: two at home. But needless to say, this just happens
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I do think there's one thing to
Speaker 1: worry about if you're the forty nine ers. They've been
Speaker 1: kind of injury plagued, not ravage, but injury plagued for
Speaker 1: several years. It's becoming an older team. Trent Williams and
Speaker 1: Kittle Bosa's got some you know, a lot of physicality
Speaker 1: and miles on those tires. There's a lot of you know,
Speaker 1: the linebackers. They've been in the league for a while,
Speaker 1: and so as you get older, you have more injuries.
Speaker 1: You just hope collectively everybody's ready to go by the playoffs.
Speaker 1: But last year the defensive coordinator was Demiko Ryans. So
Speaker 1: he is a former player, very good. He was a
Speaker 1: quick rising star as a coach. The Niners named him
Speaker 1: as like, you know, a defensive coach, linebacker, coach coordinator,
Speaker 1: head coach Texans. I mean it was four or five
Speaker 1: year period. He flew through the organization of the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers, and I can remember, like his third year,
Speaker 1: people saying, Oh, this guy's going to be a head coach,
Speaker 1: and you're like, he was just playing years ago. He
Speaker 1: didn't go to the college level, he didn't bounce around
Speaker 1: the league. He coached for one team, the Niners. Quality
Speaker 1: control on defense, linebacker, defensive coordinator gone. And he's been
Speaker 1: excellent so far with the Houston Texas. Steve Wilkes college
Speaker 1: head coach for a year, losing record, NFL head coach
Speaker 1: for a year disaster, was fired, then went to Carolina interim.
Speaker 1: But Steve Wilkes bounced around college and pro coaching forever,
Speaker 1: a lot of jobs, a lot of cities. Was not
Speaker 1: a rising star, and like we've all had, most of
Speaker 1: us have had like one boss that's just exceptional. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've been in this business thirty years. I've worked with
Speaker 1: some really good people. Haven't had, you know, only a
Speaker 1: couple of like wow, and they usually in and out
Speaker 1: of the building quickly. Right. It's rare for anybody in
Speaker 1: any business. You know. You see sometimes you have a
Speaker 1: coworker or a boss and you're like, Wow, they're a visionary.
Speaker 1: That person, she's great, he's great. They just and that
Speaker 1: was Demikol Ryans flew through the Niners organization, first team
Speaker 1: he coached with, and he was gone head coach, and
Speaker 1: so I think they're just not as good. I noted
Speaker 1: this several times on FS one. They're not as good
Speaker 1: in the red zone defensively as they have been in
Speaker 1: previous years. And it's I think that's a coaching thing.
Speaker 1: You know, we always talk about offensive coordinators, but we
Speaker 1: rarely talk about big leaps with defensive coordinators. Dan Quinn
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys has certainly been excellent, but I mean
Speaker 1: if you look at the Vikings tonight, I mean Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins in that offense, four hundred and fifty two yards
Speaker 1: with an average O line, no justin Jefferson. They moved
Speaker 1: off Dalvin Cook and they passed for almost three hundred
Speaker 1: and eighty yards, six point eight yards of play, twenty
Speaker 1: four first downs, eight for thirteen on third down. You know,
Speaker 1: you lose to me, Ko Ryans. They've lost their edge.
Speaker 1: They're not The Niners are not as good situationally coaching
Speaker 1: on defense, brock Purty was you know, now we've seen
Speaker 1: brock Purty last couple of weeks playing from behind, and
Speaker 1: you know it's not quite as special as I've said
Speaker 1: many times. I think brock Purty's good, and I thought
Speaker 1: tonight you saw Troy Aikmann pointed this out. Brock Purty
Speaker 1: six to seven times throws the ball down the field,
Speaker 1: higher risk throws, and throws it accurately a lot. Now,
Speaker 1: he had a couple of picks won, a bad pick
Speaker 1: could have been on the receiver. But you know, I've
Speaker 1: said this about Jordan Love, he just can't throw the
Speaker 1: ball down the field. He's completing thirty eight percent of
Speaker 1: his throws ten plus yards. Like Green Bay's got a
Speaker 1: problem at quarterback. Rock Purty moves well enough, throws the
Speaker 1: ball aggressively down the field and for the most part,
Speaker 1: very accurately. But there's a big difference in this league
Speaker 1: playing with a lead and a run game at home
Speaker 1: and trailing the entire game on the road. And Brian
Speaker 1: Flores is bringing heat with every snap, sometimes to his detriment,
Speaker 1: like that Christian McCaffrey touchdown. But that's a different ballgame.
Speaker 1: Playing from behind, you've got to throw. Everybody knows it.
Speaker 1: Brian Flores tends to be hyper aggressive. Just a different ballgame,
Speaker 1: and so there's very few quarterbacks in my life that
Speaker 1: you can't distinguish a difference between their playing with the
Speaker 1: lead or trailing. I think Brady was one of them,
Speaker 1: Elway was one of them. Patrick Mahomes is one of them,
Speaker 1: and I can't think of a fourth. Another topic I
Speaker 1: had today is I thought it was a gut scene.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite things about Dana White in the
Speaker 1: UFC is sort of this quality that he is willing
Speaker 1: to put himself out there and be completely vulnerable and
Speaker 1: be hated. During COVID, you know, a lot of people
Speaker 1: in the media was really pushing back when Dana White
Speaker 1: went and leased an island, and he just said, I
Speaker 1: don't give a rip. I don't think my fighters are
Speaker 1: in peril, in danger. I'm going to go to an island.
Speaker 1: And he was right. Thirty five year old athletes were
Speaker 1: not in danger. Kids were not in danger, despite what
Speaker 1: the media wanted to claim. And so Dana again took
Speaker 1: a big swing recently with bud Light. So blud Light
Speaker 1: Real Men of Genius, very popular beer, and then they
Speaker 1: had a marketing pivot to something that I thought was
Speaker 1: for a lot of people, it was just it was
Speaker 1: too much, too quickly, but I wasn't outraged by it,
Speaker 1: because I don't know if I've ever had a bud light.
Speaker 1: I'm not a full outrage guy. And one of the
Speaker 1: things I thought about is the UFC fans have pushed
Speaker 1: back on Dana and Dane's pushed back on them. Is
Speaker 1: that one of the things I've always appreciated about Dana,
Speaker 1: whether and Dana and I have gone back and forth
Speaker 1: on stuff, whether Dana and I agree on things, He's
Speaker 1: totally upfront with me. I try to be totally upfront
Speaker 1: with him. He's confrontational, I can be. We've resolved any
Speaker 1: brief issues we've had, and we don't really have many,
Speaker 1: because I think I really respect him and he's always
Speaker 1: been good to me. But one of the things that happened,
Speaker 1: so I went to three UFC cards this summer, and
Speaker 1: I knew Donald Trump was going to be at one
Speaker 1: or two of them. I knew that beforehand, but I
Speaker 1: wasn't going to let Trump, who I think is a
Speaker 1: buffoon and a narcissist, get in the way of my fun.
Speaker 1: And the reason being is there's an old adage be
Speaker 1: less selfish. I don't believe in it at the volume
Speaker 1: I believe our motto should be be more selfish, because
Speaker 1: more selfish means happy and less fake outrage. You don't.
Speaker 1: You don't really care what the marketing campaign for bud
Speaker 1: Light is. He just needed something to be outraged by.
Speaker 1: Remember years ago people outraged by the Dixie Chicks. Let's
Speaker 1: be honest. You didn't love their music. That's okay. Wasn't
Speaker 1: my cumpany either? Is that when you're selfish? And by
Speaker 1: the way, you loved Michael Jordan. He was selfish all
Speaker 1: you MJ fans. MJ didn't pass punch the teammate. People
Speaker 1: called him an ass, difficult. You don't like Lebron. Lebron
Speaker 1: passes and elevates others. You loved Kobe and MJ. Tom
Speaker 1: Brady didn't let his backup have snaps. He wanted to
Speaker 1: Garoppolo out of town. Selfish. I'm on team Tom. Garoppolo
Speaker 1: shouldn't get snaps, Brady should get all of them. Do
Speaker 1: you want to win Super Bowls? Garoppolo's not the guy
Speaker 1: Brady was. Do you want to want titles? Don't pass
Speaker 1: to Matthew dela Vedova take the shot. Lebron, Michael Jordan
Speaker 1: take more shots. Kobe take more shots. People look at
Speaker 1: selfish as mean. I look at selfish as often realistic
Speaker 1: and happy. I care about my wife and my children,
Speaker 1: my business, my employees, and a small group of friends.
Speaker 1: I go to UFC cards even if Trump is there.
Speaker 1: Why would I let Trump get in the way of
Speaker 1: my happiness. I'm going to be selfish and have fun.
Speaker 1: I took my cousin Matt, and then my friend Eric
Speaker 1: and his kids. I didn't care if Trump was there.
Speaker 1: I would never vote for Trump. I'm not gonna let
Speaker 1: Trump dissuade my plans get in the way of my happiness.
Speaker 1: The athletes that we truly love are selfish. Brady MJ.
Speaker 1: Kobe Shaq. I mean, how many commercials does Shaq have?
Speaker 1: Six hundred? He think he's worried about you. He's worried
Speaker 1: about his commercials and his bank. Good for Shack. Shaq
Speaker 1: takes care of Shack. Oh for the record, Travis Kelcey,
Speaker 1: who's dating Taylor Swift, who's worth like four billion dollars,
Speaker 1: hated a Pfiser commercial and above like commercial. He's not
Speaker 1: pretending he's outraged. He's taking care of Travis Kelcey in
Speaker 1: his business. I don't have to agree with it, but
Speaker 1: he's not faking outrage. He's being sort of selfish. And
Speaker 1: I love the Chiefs and I'm gonna keep watching them
Speaker 1: because they're usually the most entertaining team in the league.
Speaker 1: On Sunday, am I not gonna watch the Chiefs and
Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey. I can't watch that whole pfisor thing. You
Speaker 1: don't want to get a vaccine, don't get one? What
Speaker 1: do I care? But I want to watch Travis Kelcey.
Speaker 1: Is that when I see all this outrage and I
Speaker 1: can't believe this politician and this band and this beer company,
Speaker 1: I don't care. I just want to have fun and
Speaker 1: be happy. I have people occasionally say, you know, Colin,
Speaker 1: you have a great job. I'm like, yeah, I get up,
Speaker 1: I get to talk about sports. It's just I'm happy.
Speaker 1: When I first met my wife, she said, you just
Speaker 1: really you live your best life. I'm like, yeah, I'd
Speaker 1: love you to be part of it. But I don't
Speaker 1: have a lot of time to be unhappy. Jerry Jonzoa
Speaker 1: says this, I don't have a lot of time for
Speaker 1: a bad time. You view selfish as mean, I viewed
Speaker 1: as happy. Dana White said they want to pay us
Speaker 1: one hundred million. We had multiple beer sponsors interested. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go and get bud Lights money and do a
Speaker 1: business deal with bud Light. If you don't want to
Speaker 1: watch UFC, don't. I'll take your seats. I'll take your seats,
Speaker 1: but I don't let people get in the way of
Speaker 1: my fund. Politicians, beer companies, ad campaigns, musicians, Hollywood. What
Speaker 1: do I care what a Hollywood writer votes. If the
Speaker 1: show's funny, I watch. I figure everybody that works for Netflix,
Speaker 1: who writes and acts is probably left leaning. I probably
Speaker 1: disagree with them that ninety percent of the political views. No,
Speaker 1: I care if the show's funny. I'm watching Netflix and
Speaker 1: Jill John Middlecoff, former NFL scout three and out at
Speaker 1: the volume so. I had said on this podcast and
Speaker 1: on FS one multiple times that I had heard from
Speaker 1: a source I trust who had been around the Packers
Speaker 1: during the Jordan Love years. There was just no special
Speaker 1: It wasn't bad game manager. We saw how cautiously they
Speaker 1: coached him in the preseason. We know they give their
Speaker 1: quarterback protection. They've got excellent backs, young but emerging tied
Speaker 1: and wide receivers. Today, Jordan Love again if you didn't
Speaker 1: watch the game, you're like, well, one interception, a couple
Speaker 1: of touchdown passes. You know, he's like twenty for twenty eight. Well,
Speaker 1: one of the touchdown passes was a deflection. The other
Speaker 1: one could have easily been intercepted. It was a jump ball.
Speaker 1: And one of his biggest plays of the day was
Speaker 1: a dump off to a running back and the Broncos
Speaker 1: defense surrendered thirty yards. Is that it's it really becomes
Speaker 1: dump down stuff. I don't see him accurately consistently throw
Speaker 1: the ball down the field. I I mean, now, Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson's lost confidence. He missed on a four yard swing
Speaker 1: pass that he threw too low. He was like pushing
Speaker 1: the ball. That's a quarterback who's lost confidence. But I
Speaker 1: watched Jordan Love, and you're a former NFL scout, like
Speaker 1: you can't. I don't see it. I don't see it
Speaker 1: at all. It's game managing four years in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you Today? Was ugly?
Speaker 3: Obviously, Denver's terrible on defense. We've seen all season long,
Speaker 3: and like you said, the only plays they could really
Speaker 3: mustered up to get any flow in their offense, I
Speaker 3: mean early on, their offense was pretty embarrassing. Were screen
Speaker 3: passes were screened. We're schemed up kind of wide receiver screen.
Speaker 2: Yes to me.
Speaker 3: The two touchdowns, like you said, if you just go
Speaker 3: to the box score, you're like, ah, I threw two touchdowns.
Speaker 3: I think Sirtaan picks that off seventy percent of the time,
Speaker 3: the one the jump ball and the other pick. The
Speaker 3: majority of time that bass tipped. It always lands into
Speaker 3: defender's hands and he takes it one hundred yards the
Speaker 3: other way.
Speaker 2: So I'll get the Packers credit on this one though.
Speaker 3: And we've seen teams be in position where they pick
Speaker 3: up the fifth year option when they shouldn't, or they
Speaker 3: don't pick up a fifth year option. They's let it
Speaker 3: play out. Like the Giants, they extended this guy on
Speaker 3: basically a backup quarterback contract. Remember they gave him like
Speaker 3: eleven million dollars over two years. They are going to
Speaker 3: be in position they have some young pieces. Right, you
Speaker 3: can still get a quarterback. You could easily put him
Speaker 3: back to the backup spot. Financially, didn't screw yourself. You
Speaker 3: took a calculated risk, But clearly the contract told you what.
Speaker 2: They kind of believed in them.
Speaker 3: Right, They're like, we're not picking up the fifth year option.
Speaker 3: We're not giving you some extension here. Give you eleven
Speaker 3: million dollars going right for a backup quarterback, three four
Speaker 3: five million dollars a year.
Speaker 2: Nothing crazy.
Speaker 3: If he's a backup quarterback, has to play an individual game,
Speaker 3: not terrible, but I think with every snap that plays out,
Speaker 3: probably pretty clear that they.
Speaker 2: Don't have their next Aaron Rodgers on their hand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so right now they're probably gonna draft in
Speaker 1: the you know, in the somewhere between twelve and six.
Speaker 2: They're not very good colin. I mean they are. The
Speaker 2: more you watch them, you're like, this team five wins.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And so let's say they draft eleven. You could
Speaker 1: get I don't think bon Nicks rises to that. You
Speaker 1: could get Pennix potentially, you're not gonna get Caleber Drake May,
Speaker 1: but you could get the third or fourth best quarterback.
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, I will say this because
Speaker 1: I think they hit on receivers and tight ends and
Speaker 1: the last couple of drafts I like all of them.
Speaker 1: And they got the Reid kid from Michigan State. I
Speaker 1: think he's from. Yeah, they added Yeah, they added another
Speaker 1: piece with Watson and Romeo dops, so they have good
Speaker 1: young receivers. If you go get another quarterback, you can
Speaker 1: bring a veteran in, spend some money and bring up
Speaker 1: bring a veteran in now because you got a bunch
Speaker 1: of young kids at tight end, wide receiver. Probably got
Speaker 1: a draft your next David Baktiari. But they don't have
Speaker 1: a lot of huge holes, so they usually go defense.
Speaker 1: Green Bay does in the first round. Probably time to
Speaker 1: go get another quarterback. Remember, if you hit on one
Speaker 1: of two, that's better than the league average.
Speaker 2: And the other thing.
Speaker 3: If you're a Packer fan, which probably feels because you're
Speaker 3: not used to this, it's going to be a long season.
Speaker 3: Look at the NFC big picture right beside, like the
Speaker 3: Niners in the Eagles. Yeah, obviously the Lions are got
Speaker 3: exposed a little bit today, a lot today. It's not
Speaker 3: like you are playing in a conference with seven star
Speaker 3: young quarterbacks. So if you can within a year turn
Speaker 3: the thing over a little bit and just get to
Speaker 3: nine wins, you can compete to be a wildcard rams battle.
Speaker 3: You watch some of these teams, you know they are not.
Speaker 3: The drop off after the top two teams roster wise
Speaker 3: in the NFC is not like the AFC, because, hey face,
Speaker 3: we talked about the Chargers. They get the right coach
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, they're an eleven win team next year.
Speaker 1: Right, right, Hey brock perty right now and Geno Smith
Speaker 1: exact playoff quarterbacks. Right, So the NFC is very watered down.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the early game of the
Speaker 1: day and it was my kind of favorite pick. I
Speaker 1: really like the Ravens at home against Detroit. Now, Detroit's
Speaker 1: not the Detroit of the last three years, where golf
Speaker 1: last two years, where golf can only win at home,
Speaker 1: only on the Dome, only a certain way. It's a
Speaker 1: different team. It's great old they can run. I thought
Speaker 1: it was a bit of a snake pit. I did
Speaker 1: not like this matchup for Detroit. Baltimore's a tough place
Speaker 1: to play, and I said, I think I told you
Speaker 1: this last week. I thought Baltimore's first half in London
Speaker 1: against Tennessee was the best half of football I've seen
Speaker 1: any team play in the league. I think Lamar right
Speaker 1: now is playing easily the best football. And for all
Speaker 1: the things the Ravens do well, they haven't in the
Speaker 1: last six seven years been a great wide receiver organization.
Speaker 1: The opposite of the Steelers. But say Flowers Odell, I
Speaker 1: think Lamar is healthy, he's got a contract. He feels
Speaker 1: buoyed by that. I mean, I think he's playing with
Speaker 1: a ton of confidence. He's very happy now that's not
Speaker 1: hanging over him. A guy that runs a lot and
Speaker 1: gets hurt, is he going to get paid? He's paid,
Speaker 1: He's happy. I don't think less of Detroit today. I
Speaker 1: think San Francisco and the Ravens today, and then Kansas
Speaker 1: City after what I saw. But I'm tempering it because
Speaker 1: it was the Chargers defense. I think Baltimore's a rate
Speaker 1: football team right now. I don't think Harball is a
Speaker 1: special teams guy. The defense top five, the offense top five,
Speaker 1: and Lamar. You know, contracts do different things to different people.
Speaker 1: I think Lamar it's really helped him because there was that.
Speaker 1: Now he can play full speed. Now he plays. Listen, man,
Speaker 1: if you run around, you've been banged up, and you're
Speaker 1: staring at three hundred million dollars, and I'd be like,
Speaker 1: you know, if I was stared at three hundred million.
Speaker 3: Dollars at twenty six years old, right, you'd be like,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna run out of bounds on this one.
Speaker 1: He's playing with like, Hey, I got my money, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna go win games. I think Lamar right now,
Speaker 1: I'm not serious. There are a lot of sundays he's
Speaker 1: the second best player in the league to Mahomes. I
Speaker 1: think he is so good right now.
Speaker 2: Well, two things.
Speaker 3: Knowing some people there, I know last year when it
Speaker 3: got weird, they never thought it was that weird because
Speaker 3: they really trusted the guy that they've all the people
Speaker 3: that have been around him the whole time, his character,
Speaker 3: everything that he stood for. They understood that the contract
Speaker 3: situation was kind of its own little thing and it
Speaker 3: was throwing him off. But they always win football, like
Speaker 3: football came first for Lamar obviously. This year, think about
Speaker 3: that Division two contracts Deshaun Watson. That thing's been weird NonStop.
Speaker 3: Shoulder injury today, injury, it just feels. And their team
Speaker 3: talent wise is every bit as good as these top teams,
Speaker 3: but the Deshaun Watson situation is all just out of whack.
Speaker 3: When you look at the Ravens today, they showed up
Speaker 3: like Mike Tyson in his prime. That thing was over
Speaker 3: in the first quarter. It was a knockout blow to me,
Speaker 3: if I was doing a little herd hierarchy AFC, I
Speaker 3: would still have the Chiefs won. They've earned it, like
Speaker 3: they're just the resume of all those guys and their coach.
Speaker 2: I would have the Ravens two in the AFC, though, Yeah, the.
Speaker 3: Way they're playing, and like we talked about earlier, if somehow,
Speaker 3: if I'm the Ravens like getting those home games, I
Speaker 3: do not want to go to Kansas City. Obviously they
Speaker 3: have one less loss than you right now, but you know,
Speaker 3: Kansas City's probably a fourteen and three team. You got
Speaker 3: to keep stacking these wins because I do think the
Speaker 3: home field advantage for a team that's face that.
Speaker 2: The other elephant the room.
Speaker 3: Is Lamar hasn't had that much, really hasn't had any
Speaker 3: postseason success. So that's an element too. Going to Kansas City.
Speaker 3: I gotta do everything humanly possible to try to get
Speaker 3: that one. See, because I'm with you, Lamar is he
Speaker 3: the MVP right now? I mean basin the mid the
Speaker 3: end of October.
Speaker 1: I think he is. And I think again he's playing.
Speaker 1: He's playing with great confidence. Money can ruin players. It's
Speaker 1: made him a better player. Yeah, and by the way
Speaker 1: this team, this receiving group, they're only going to get better.
Speaker 1: They've only played six games together, right, Like, like Odell's knew,
Speaker 1: you know last year, Lamar's not healthy. Now they got
Speaker 1: the rookie wide receiver. It's like, oh, they're good now.
Speaker 1: We also said this, that's the fastest team in the
Speaker 1: league right now.
Speaker 3: He doesn't get enough credit. Mahomes didn't save Kansas City,
Speaker 3: he just elevated them.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: The Ravens were dead before Lamar. John Harbaugh's career was
Speaker 3: heading in the wrong direction in Baltimore. I'm not he
Speaker 3: would have got a job somewhere else. But the Flacco
Speaker 3: situation that the team was just kind of it just
Speaker 3: felt like it had run his course. They had lacked juice,
Speaker 3: and he came and he's not just resurrected that franchise,
Speaker 3: turned them into perennial power. And it does feel, like
Speaker 3: you said, adding as a Flowers, Mark Andrews playing really well.
Speaker 3: The scheme with Todd Munkin, Like I was nervous that
Speaker 3: they were gonna try to get away from what they
Speaker 3: do well, right, but they've kind of integrated a more
Speaker 3: explosive passing offense.
Speaker 2: Yet he's still very active as a mover.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't call him running like he did in twenty
Speaker 3: nineteen tenty twenty, but his his activity level as an
Speaker 3: athlete is still there, and it throws you. He had
Speaker 3: a touchdown today I think to go up twenty when
Speaker 3: nothing kind of scrambled around. It was just I don't
Speaker 3: know who else had that in the bag in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Well, it's almost like Jamie Foxx was so naturally funny
Speaker 1: you forgot how good of an actor he was. Right like,
Speaker 1: you're like, he can sing too, Yeah, but he was
Speaker 1: so naturally funny and good looking and funny that you forget,
Speaker 1: like of you you ever watched his movies. Lamar was
Speaker 1: so gifted running. I don't think we've ever given them credit.
Speaker 1: Shit in the pocket, But for the record, he's the
Speaker 1: other guy in the league. Side arms it running left,
Speaker 1: can throw it, can go the deep ball, can run right.
Speaker 1: Like a lot of guys when they move Mahomes and Lamar,
Speaker 1: when they move, their accuracy doesn't dip, which is hard,
Speaker 1: right you think about it, Think about you're moving, You're
Speaker 1: going up and down. Lamar moving his feet are good.
Speaker 1: I just when I watched that game today, it's one
Speaker 1: of those. Detroit's better than that. If they played in Detroit,
Speaker 1: it would be better. But Detroit looked a little plodding.
Speaker 1: Baltimore looked like a track team. US he close lost
Speaker 1: once again. The defense couldn't make a stop. So I
Speaker 1: think the defensive side, I think you can shore up
Speaker 1: a lot of what they do with a new defensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: With Alex Grinch losing, you know, moving on. I do
Speaker 1: think Bear Alexander will play in the pros. I think
Speaker 1: they have a linebacker who's a probe. I think they've
Speaker 1: got a safety that's a pro. They don't have Michigan talent.
Speaker 1: They don't have Bama Georgia talent. But if you went
Speaker 1: to like team six to team sixteen in the college
Speaker 1: football world, their talents somewhat comparable. I mean, Washington doesn't
Speaker 1: have great talent. They have a good edge rusher. Here's
Speaker 1: something let me throw at you. What's really regressed has
Speaker 1: been their offensive line, and you're like, they got a
Speaker 1: couple NFL guys there. They absolutely upgraded with transfers. They
Speaker 1: actually have some depth on the interior due to recruiting.
Speaker 1: What's happened as I watched them, I think Caleb is
Speaker 1: just ad libbing a lot more than he was last year.
Speaker 1: Between the confidence, the heisman, the power, the nil money,
Speaker 1: he's sort of doing his own thing. And it's a
Speaker 1: little Josh Allen that when you're we always say the
Speaker 1: Bill's O line is terrible, it's not. They've got a
Speaker 1: pro bowler, but Josh at times he's a little more
Speaker 1: This year. I think he's a little more defined or refined.
Speaker 1: But when Josh is out there running, it's hard. As
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman. You're kind of at the whim of
Speaker 1: what Josh Allen wanted to do. And when I watch
Speaker 1: USC because their O line looks terrible, but it's not terrible.
Speaker 1: Their personnel's not terrible. I wonder if Caleb now is
Speaker 1: sort of like, hey, I'm out of the natty picture,
Speaker 1: I got my nil money, I'm gonna do what I
Speaker 1: want to do. You think that could be possible.
Speaker 3: Do you remember when the division and really some of
Speaker 3: the animosity started in Seattle. You know, probably around seventeen eighteen,
Speaker 3: everyone starts shitting on their offensive line and saying Russell
Speaker 3: Wilson was running for his life, and a lot of
Speaker 3: former offensive linemen said, well, he's taken off early and
Speaker 3: he would make hero ball plays. Now he would make them,
Speaker 3: so it kind of bandiated. Well, look at what he did,
Speaker 3: but the result was you should have just stayed in
Speaker 3: the pocket. And clearly the coaching staff now everyone just
Speaker 3: kind of started button heads. I think Caleb's talent is extraordinary,
Speaker 3: his arm strength, his athletic his ability to throw moving
Speaker 3: left or right, especially across his body. My home style
Speaker 3: it's he had to throw last night across his body
Speaker 3: to the left side. That was only five guys on
Speaker 3: this planet can do that. But he definitely has this
Speaker 3: hero ball syndrome, which might not be all his fault
Speaker 3: that the program is in somewhat disarray, I do think,
Speaker 3: and I get this a lot because they're like, oh,
Speaker 3: your boy, he's hyping Caleb up again, And listen, I'm
Speaker 3: guilty of this too. We kind of annoyed players as
Speaker 3: generational talents or all. He has generational capabilities from an
Speaker 3: arm standpoint, but as a prospect, like if you go
Speaker 3: Luck or Lway or Manning, he's short relative to those guys,
Speaker 3: like the great prospects have all been six four to
Speaker 3: six y five, right, and he's I talked to a
Speaker 3: guy who's been around them, thinks he's a shade under
Speaker 3: six foot one, but he's built like a tank. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and he knows that he's very thick and powerful. I
Speaker 3: do think that all time great prospects up, he's a
Speaker 3: really good prospect who is gonna go ninety five percent
Speaker 3: number one overall and worst case snaro.
Speaker 2: Go number two overall. But I think we see some plause.
Speaker 3: I mean we see some of the numbers now against
Speaker 3: better teams, Notre Dame and especially Utah, high end defensive players,
Speaker 3: well coached guys. They're gonna be playing on Sunday, and
Speaker 3: he doesn't look like he did against Arizona in some
Speaker 3: of these games. Now, I listen the program, I think
Speaker 3: banning the reporter, not allowing NFL scouts in there for
Speaker 3: a month and a half, not having the players talk,
Speaker 3: like to me, some of their priorities.
Speaker 2: It's like, is Nick Saban obsessed with that bullshit? Of course?
Speaker 2: Not like what is Lincoln?
Speaker 3: I don't I think some of their priorities, And I
Speaker 3: think sometimes I remember when the forty nine ers drafted
Speaker 3: Hufunga and Drake Jackson and they said, obviously the sc
Speaker 3: was in shambles. Then with Clay Hilton and they said,
Speaker 3: you know, Drake Jackson got a bad rap, but so
Speaker 3: do most players. When coaches are getting fired and things
Speaker 3: are in disarray, who Fungo was the guy that even
Speaker 3: people that are getting fired, getting tarnished coaches, they all
Speaker 3: had good things to say about him. And that's a
Speaker 3: very very small percentage of humans that are able to
Speaker 3: kind of rise above it. And I don't know Caleb,
Speaker 3: I've never heard bad things, but it does feel like
Speaker 3: he's kind of in the middle right now of the weirdness.
Speaker 3: And I gotta start with the blame you, paigu one
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty million dollars. It does start with the
Speaker 3: head coach, and it feels like he's lost control a
Speaker 3: little bit of just some of the basic details of
Speaker 3: a high end program.
Speaker 1: All right, Time for another edition of Sharp or Square.
Speaker 1: Chad was super sharp, I was kind of sharp. I
Speaker 1: was three and two last week. All of our odds
Speaker 1: provided by Draft Kings Chad, of course, to CCEO the
Speaker 1: Action Network, I'll tell you I have taken more favorites
Speaker 1: than any other year because I think there's becoming a
Speaker 1: gap offensively between the halves the quarterbacks that are good
Speaker 1: and the have nots. And so Monday I made a
Speaker 1: huge mistake. I took Rock pretty over Kirk Cousins at home,
Speaker 1: and Cousins was great. So I'm gonna throw you a game.
Speaker 1: And it's very number dependent. I don't like it at
Speaker 1: three and a half, but at three it's interesting. I
Speaker 1: don't think we're paying attention to how good the Texans are.
Speaker 1: And just hear me out. They destroyed Pittsburgh, they destroyed Jacksonville. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is a team that is a play away. They
Speaker 1: should have beaten the Falcons, although the Falcons was the
Speaker 1: right side. This team has taken quality teams, playoff teams,
Speaker 1: high seeds potentially and destroyed them. Carolina. We lauded them
Speaker 1: for keeping it close in the first half against Miami.
Speaker 1: They are in complete utter rebuild. At minus three, I
Speaker 1: love Houston. At three and a half, I'm a square.
Speaker 1: But let's say the number drifts back to Texans minus three,
Speaker 1: which I take is that sharper square, totally sharp.
Speaker 4: The wise guys have been on CJ. Stroud from the beginning,
Speaker 4: and when I say from the beginning, I mean March.
Speaker 4: There's nobody in the professional petting community who spent a
Speaker 4: lot of time looking at a tape and spent a
Speaker 4: lot of money betting on the NFL draft. Who thought,
Speaker 4: oh yeah, I like Bryce Young over CJ.
Speaker 1: Stroud.
Speaker 4: It's pretty well known within sort of the inner circle
Speaker 4: of NFL executive dom that Bryce Young was an owner's
Speaker 4: pick and that the player most people wanted was CJ.
Speaker 2: Stroud.
Speaker 4: He lands at the Texans. He's been by far the
Speaker 4: best rookie quarterback, and not just sort of making good
Speaker 4: plays and then not making mistakes, but he's made Robert
Speaker 4: Woods look good. He's made Nico Collins look good.
Speaker 1: He's one of the targets back this week too, by
Speaker 1: the way, I think Tanks Pice. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4: You know, his worst game, he still ended up leading
Speaker 4: the team to a touchdown drive in the final two minutes,
Speaker 4: and then they ended up losing because the defense couldn't
Speaker 4: stop anybody. But look this guy off of by the
Speaker 4: wise guys like the Texans that might which is why
Speaker 4: it's gone up to three and a half.
Speaker 1: All right. The Steelers have been out gained in every game,
Speaker 1: and in fact, they've often been awful for large chunks
Speaker 1: of the game offensively, but they found ways to win.
Speaker 1: I think that ends this week. Jacksonville's a better team
Speaker 1: at two and a half. Jacksonville, I think has a
Speaker 1: real shot. I mean, what's interesting about Jacksonville three games
Speaker 1: on a very short period on the road for two
Speaker 1: games we were worried how they play against Indy. They
Speaker 1: keep kind of busting up these trends because they're probably
Speaker 1: pretty good outside of Kansas City last year where they
Speaker 1: felt a little overwhelmed. They kind of stack up with
Speaker 1: everybody when I watch them play minus two and a half,
Speaker 1: they are the side to me over the Steelers don't
Speaker 1: care about home in a way. Whether it's not a
Speaker 1: factory yet sharper square.
Speaker 4: Now it's the Steelers are the sharp side. It all
Speaker 4: may come undone one day for the Steelers, but Mike
Speaker 4: Tomlin is the most profitable coach in the NFL against
Speaker 4: the spread the past twenty years. Mike Tomlin against teams
Speaker 4: that are over sixty percent winning percentage, regularly wins at
Speaker 4: home as an underdog. Mike Tomlin as an underdog at
Speaker 4: home sixteen and nine straight up. Forget about against the spread.
Speaker 4: We saw it last week, We've seen it against the Ravens.
Speaker 4: This team is really weird because they played terribly in
Speaker 4: the first half, and then in the second half the
Speaker 4: defense starts to grind down the offense a little bit,
Speaker 4: and TJ. Watt when he's on the field, it's just
Speaker 4: a different team, right. He tilts the field in the
Speaker 4: direction of the Steelers. We saw last week the first
Speaker 4: play the second half interception, runs it back to the
Speaker 4: three yard line. It catapulted them to a win. I
Speaker 4: think the Steelers are better with Deontay Johnson back. It
Speaker 4: frees up George Pickens to be more of a threat downfield.
Speaker 4: That makes Kenny Picktt more comfortable. It's just a better
Speaker 4: offense that set the Jags an interesting team. So I'm
Speaker 4: a little bit nervous about it, Like there have been
Speaker 4: times this year. Steelers against the Ravens, Bet it didn't
Speaker 4: even think about it. Steelers against the Rams last week,
Speaker 4: Bet it didn't even think about it. I don't know
Speaker 4: why I'm a little more nervous about the Jags. But
Speaker 4: I'm still taking the Steelers, and that's the sharp side.
Speaker 1: All right. Another game which I'm undecided now but off
Speaker 1: of by offensive coach Joe Burrow against a San Francisco
Speaker 1: team now in a backup quarterback with no Trent Williams
Speaker 1: or debo. Sam Darnold is built for Kyle Shanahan, perhaps,
Speaker 1: but I'm not sure if he's built to be inserted
Speaker 1: missing a left tackle in one of their specialty players.
Speaker 1: If I get four, it feels like a slam dunk.
Speaker 1: Cincinnati at three and a half probably still is. I'm
Speaker 1: undecided on it, but I've gone back and forth. Jmack
Speaker 1: and I talked about this on the air and off
Speaker 1: on FS one. I would think Bingals anything over three
Speaker 1: would be the side sharper square.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think that's right, and it's your your nail
Speaker 4: at the number. Similarly to the Texans conversation. You get
Speaker 4: minus three, you're probably gonna take the Niners. If you
Speaker 4: can get the hook at three and a half, you
Speaker 4: can get it at four, then you're going to take
Speaker 4: the Bengals. I think before before this game, a lot
Speaker 4: of consensus was going to be on the Niners. They've
Speaker 4: had some bad luck. They missed a field goal that
Speaker 4: cost them against the Browns. They missed a field goal,
Speaker 4: had three strange uncharacteristic turnovers. Turns out two of them
Speaker 4: might have come after brock Party was concussed and through interceptions,
Speaker 4: and they gave up a weird touchdown at the end
Speaker 4: of that first half against the Vikings on an all out.
Speaker 1: Blitz that is just rare for Steve Wilkes to call.
Speaker 4: And so this team was coming back home as a
Speaker 4: five and a half point favorite in a game where
Speaker 4: I think a lot of wise guys thought, Okay, the
Speaker 4: Niners are going to get right now, parties out, But
Speaker 4: I think the consensus is going to be if they're
Speaker 4: a short favorite, they're still going to back. Then if
Speaker 4: wise guys can get the hook, they'll take the Bengals.
Speaker 4: People are not that convinced Joe Burrows back, and he
Speaker 4: did not look great in the second half of that
Speaker 4: game they had right before the bye. He's still having
Speaker 4: trouble getting the ball downfield. Not great percentage wise throwing
Speaker 4: the ball downfield. So there's a lot of sort of
Speaker 4: mixed feelings about this. This is entirely about the number.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think Patriots plus nine and a half at
Speaker 1: Miami feels right, not because they beat Buffalo injuries on
Speaker 1: the O line. I think it's very clear that Miami
Speaker 1: has not beaten a playoff team since Week three of
Speaker 1: last year or what we consider a top end team.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of fake Gucci loafers and leasing a speedboat.
Speaker 1: It's fun to look at, but when you dig deeper,
Speaker 1: don't have much of a chin. Offensive lines bad translation.
Speaker 1: New England will get pressure. They do usually even against
Speaker 1: decental lines. They're running the ball a little better. Mac
Speaker 1: Jones with confident Belichick buoye by that contract that's public.
Speaker 1: The team played with a certain swagger. It's not just
Speaker 1: the Buffalo number. It's a division game. Nine and a
Speaker 1: half's a ton. I do think weather cools You're not
Speaker 1: going down to Miami in the swamp in the second
Speaker 1: week of September. It's not going to be a factor.
Speaker 1: I think I would have to take New England in
Speaker 1: the points Sharper square. Yeah, that's the sharp side.
Speaker 4: And it's funny you say, sort of the fake guccies
Speaker 4: and speedboats, right like, Look, Miami is reflection of the
Speaker 4: city is playing in right now and they have not
Speaker 4: beaten good teams. And we've talked about this last week.
Speaker 4: My biggest bet at the season was the Eagles at
Speaker 4: two and a half over the Dolphins, right, and what
Speaker 4: we're going to see, what we started to see with
Speaker 4: the Patriots against the Bills, Bill O'Brien a lot more
Speaker 4: with Mac Jones under center, a lot more short passes.
Speaker 4: That defense, which had lost Matthew Judon, had lost Christian
Speaker 4: Gonzales started to figure out, Okay, how are we going
Speaker 4: to play? How are we going to who rush the passer?
Speaker 4: The Dolphins without key players on the offensive line. I
Speaker 4: do think Tyreek Hill practice today, so very good chance
Speaker 4: that he plays on Sunday. But the wise guys, they
Speaker 4: push this number from ten down to nine and a half,
Speaker 4: down to nine divisional games, the underdogs and divisional games.
Speaker 4: The last decade, sixty games above five hundred against the spread,
Speaker 4: and we got a few of those games this week.
Speaker 1: All right. We finish with two things. The first is
Speaker 1: talk me into a game. I often give it to you,
Speaker 1: and it's the Rams plus six to six and a
Speaker 1: half against Dallas. So against Philadelphia and against San Francisco
Speaker 1: they were clearly outclassed. But the fact that they hung
Speaker 1: around Pittsburgh. They are in a rebuild. One RAMS player,
Speaker 1: one high end RAMS player. They have one that's in
Speaker 1: his prime, Ernest Brown, Cooper, Stafford haven Stein Donald. They're
Speaker 1: out of their prime. Pittsburg's probably got nine guys in
Speaker 1: their prime. They're young. That game was go either way
Speaker 1: entering the fourth, and it was a Pittsburgh Steeler crowd.
Speaker 1: So I think McVeigh is doing a remarkable job with
Speaker 1: an old Aaron Donald and mostly rookies and six round,
Speaker 1: fourth round picks. I like the coaching here. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of points. I think the Rams will stay close.
Speaker 1: They're fairly healthy. I think i'd like the Rams plus
Speaker 1: the points. But the Vegas is so smart DraftKings it's seven.
Speaker 1: I think it's such a great bet for the Rams.
Speaker 1: It's six and a half. I don't know. You tell me,
Speaker 1: talk me into it.
Speaker 4: So it's interesting you bring this up. This was the
Speaker 4: biggest debate that me and my bff Simon Hunter had
Speaker 4: in our podcast, and I love the Cowboys. In this spot,
Speaker 4: Simon wants to love the Cowboys but can't quite find
Speaker 4: the exact number, like it's six, six and a half.
Speaker 4: It's basically lined right, Like you just said, the bookmakers
Speaker 4: know what they're doing. We cannot find sort of a
Speaker 4: consensus wise guy opinion on this because the number is
Speaker 4: so right. I'm all in on the Cowboys for a
Speaker 4: couple of reasons. I think they're much more talented. I
Speaker 4: think I think Mike McCarthy's a terrible coach, and I
Speaker 4: think he is he is putting his team at a
Speaker 4: disadvantage inside the red zone. And I think over the
Speaker 4: course of his career, it has been proven that if
Speaker 4: any other coach was working with Aaron Rodgers, he probably
Speaker 4: would have more Super Bowls. Like he's just not a
Speaker 4: very good play caller. But the Cowboys defense is so good.
Speaker 4: Their pressure from just four players on the front line
Speaker 4: is insane. And the reason the Steelers beat the Rams
Speaker 4: last week is because of the pressure they got on
Speaker 4: a terrible, terrible Rams o line. So the opportunity here
Speaker 4: is to put a lot of pressure on Matthew Stafford
Speaker 4: and look if he can beat the pressure and get
Speaker 4: the ball to Puka Nukua. If he can get the
Speaker 4: ball to Cooper Cup, that changes it. Because the Cowboys
Speaker 4: do have a lot of issues with their back line.
Speaker 4: But we saw against Justin Herbert the Cowboys had thirty
Speaker 4: three pressures and hit Justin Herbert twenty six times, even
Speaker 4: though they barely sacked him. Like the end of the game,
Speaker 4: Micah Parsons got him once, but that impacted him enough
Speaker 4: that he was making bad throws, rushing throws. So I
Speaker 4: also like the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Off of by coming home.
Speaker 4: Dak when he's at home, covers and he covers Big
Speaker 4: Dak on the road as an underdog in these games
Speaker 4: against teams where they are playing opponents who are usually
Speaker 4: better than them, in the high profile spots that we're
Speaker 4: used to seeing, that's when he struggles and that's where
Speaker 4: you see sort of the disadvantage that he has with
Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy as a coach. But at home, as a favorite,
Speaker 4: he's a front runner. That's a good spot to get healthy.
Speaker 4: I like the Cowboys in this spot.
Speaker 1: Finally, what did I miss? What's the stinker room that
Speaker 1: you want to talk me into? There's two of them.
Speaker 1: There's two of them.
Speaker 4: We didn't talk about two ugly division.
Speaker 1: Listen, I know Washington's one of them, right that. I
Speaker 1: looked at that and I thought, you know what's funny
Speaker 1: about them? Half to half game to game you have
Speaker 1: no idea what you're getting. But I got to tell
Speaker 1: you this. There are moments when I watched Sam Hall
Speaker 1: and I'm like, he's a mid level franchise quarterback. When
Speaker 1: you give them time to step and throw.
Speaker 4: It is pretty good, right, Yeah, that's exactly it. Washington
Speaker 4: plus six and a half. Look, Denver opened at eight
Speaker 4: and a half, got bet down to eight by the
Speaker 4: wise guys, got bet down to seven and a half
Speaker 4: by the wise guys. Some places, it's seven now. A
Speaker 4: wise guys love in Denver in the past couple of weeks.
Speaker 4: First when they played Kansas City, they thought, oh, was
Speaker 4: Mahomes just off in this game? Is that why the
Speaker 4: defense was so good? And then they played Green Bay
Speaker 4: and Matt Lafloor is really good at scheming his guys open,
Speaker 4: and Denver did a good job of stopping the Packers
Speaker 4: plus Javonte Williams six weeks into the season. Seven weeks
Speaker 4: into the season, much more explosive. You're starting to see
Speaker 4: Sean Payton give him the ball more. It's why you've
Speaker 4: seen again Brother Division games, big favorites. The Chiefs not
Speaker 4: great at covering three and a half.
Speaker 1: Not a big cover, big number team.
Speaker 4: It's hard to cover big numbers when you're always favored
Speaker 4: by a big number. Right, So there's a little bit
Speaker 4: of a self fulfilling prophecy here where you get Patrick
Speaker 4: mahomes as a short favorite and underdog. He's so good
Speaker 4: he's gonna win in those games. But if every game
Speaker 4: you're favored by three and a half to ten, it's
Speaker 4: hard to always cover in those games. So the wise
Speaker 4: guys like Denver, and the wise guys love Washington. They
Speaker 4: think it's a tough spot for the Eagles. They've got
Speaker 4: big games coming up. So it's a little bit of
Speaker 4: a look ahead, a little bit of a trap game
Speaker 4: on the road.
Speaker 1: Is hurts hurt?
Speaker 3: We don't know.
Speaker 4: Is Lane Johnson struggling? We don't know that often still
Speaker 4: isn't perfect. So there's some some money coming on the commanders.
Speaker 4: I like them both.
Speaker 1: I bet them both.
Speaker 2: Be my buddy.
Speaker 4: Be my buddy, Colin, be my bad game betting buddy.
Speaker 4: I went four and one last week. You went three
Speaker 4: and two. I went four and one because I went.
Speaker 4: I made the extra effort. Okay, I made the effort.
Speaker 1: You know. The downside to having taste is you you
Speaker 1: won't go down to the stinkorama game, the dumpster game. Oh,
Speaker 1: is that what you're calling it?
Speaker 3: Taste?
Speaker 4: Is that how you're framing this that that is a
Speaker 4: masterclass and narrative right there. I like it, well done.
Speaker 1: All dumpster dive and take Washington. Why not you will? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I kind of They're all over the map. But I
Speaker 1: mean Philadelphia comes off a big TV emotional game, late game,
Speaker 1: little less prep time to division rival, big games ahead.
Speaker 1: I do think it's the kind of game that you
Speaker 1: would say to yourself, let's wrest Lane Johnson. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. This is a deep team, and we
Speaker 1: know this that Washington has moments. We know this, so
Speaker 1: I and Philadelphia has. I thought that Miami game was
Speaker 1: the first game. I thought they really played well. And
Speaker 1: at one point it was seventeen seventeen, So in Miami's
Speaker 1: really a team Philadelphia's built to beat. Washington's a team
Speaker 1: that's built to play Philadelphia close, physical trenches, can run
Speaker 1: it a little. That's I don't think that's big dumpster diving.
Speaker 1: I looked at that game. You know again, these the
Speaker 1: wise guys are smart, like like you know, six and
Speaker 1: a half three and a half, like I like San Francisco.
Speaker 1: But you make if three and a half four was
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, then it's not as attractive. It's just not
Speaker 1: a good, bad all right, we gotta go.
Speaker 4: I like how this ended up being you know what,
Speaker 4: I like them. It's no longer dumpster diving. It's really
Speaker 4: this is the filet. I'm like a home underdog.
Speaker 1: I likes right here at the Stanza. I'm grabbing an
Speaker 1: e Claire out of the garbage.
Speaker 2: Just quickly.
Speaker 1: It was only there five seconds.
Speaker 4: That's that's why you are a multi media mogul.
Speaker 1: Yeah, those kind of references quick. All right, buddy, see you.
Speaker 3: I'd rather i'll see you later. The volume