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Speaker 1: We've both been pretty hot recently, John Middelkoff on Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love and Caleb Williams and my top takes of

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Speaker 1: the week. You know, my first takeaway on Philadelphia's resounding

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Speaker 1: win in the second half, you know they just leaned

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Speaker 1: on them. Is so much of Miami. I've been calling

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Speaker 1: him the speedboat of the NFL. You know, the fake

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Speaker 1: Gucci shoes, loafers, the fake gold watch, the speedboat. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's really fast and really flashy and really fun. But

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Speaker 1: this team's not built for November, December, January football. And

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Speaker 1: that's why the Kansas City Chiefs are the current dynasty.

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Speaker 1: They can do both. They can play real defense and

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Speaker 1: dominate the line of scrimmage and be flashy and fun.

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Speaker 1: Miami has yet to prove they can just do the

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Speaker 1: flashy fun stuff which flourishes in September and October November,

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Speaker 1: and then it doesn't. So the two teams that have

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Speaker 1: faced them, Buffalo and Philadelphia, that are physical teams, have

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Speaker 1: pushed them all over the ring. But let me talk

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Speaker 1: about Philadelphia first. That you know, I don't like the aesthetics,

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Speaker 1: the optics of the brotherly shove, the tush push, whatever

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Speaker 1: you want to call it. And I do think you

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Speaker 1: have to worry about I mean, the NFL's a TV show.

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Speaker 1: It is. Baseball has never understood this. Networks have helped

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Speaker 1: them a little over the last few years, but the

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Speaker 1: NFL's always understood. We make our money in TV. We're

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Speaker 1: a TV show. It's not good TV. It's why the

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Speaker 1: NFL's cut back on preseason games. Empty seats looks bad.

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Speaker 1: It's why the NFL got rid of the no catch rule.

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Speaker 1: It looked bad. It's really smart. You're a TV show.

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Speaker 1: That's where all the money comes from. So I don't

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Speaker 1: want everybody in the league doing it. But I was

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Speaker 1: thinking about this tonight. Why does the tush push the

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Speaker 1: broaderly shove work for Philadelphia? Well, two reasons. They have

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Speaker 1: the best center, Jason Kelson probably in over a decade

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Speaker 1: in the NFL top five center ever. And Jalen Hurts,

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Speaker 1: a small, powerful, six hundred pound bench press quarterback, was

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Speaker 1: built for it. Well, that's just the coach identifying the

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Speaker 1: talent of his players. Innovative ingenuity. Don't we want to

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Speaker 1: reward that in all businesses. It's not like the Eagles

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Speaker 1: have a passive owner. You know, Jeffrey Lourie owns it,

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Speaker 1: and they have this guy that owns five percent, and

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Speaker 1: he's a shoe designer and he created a cleat that

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Speaker 1: he put a patent on that he won't let anybody

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Speaker 1: else build. And the cleat has an ability to has

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Speaker 1: some sort of physical advantage over other shoes in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and nobody else can buy it or use it or no.

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Speaker 1: That feels like the Houston Astros. This is a coaching

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Speaker 1: staff saying hurts his strength, Jason Kelsey. And they design

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Speaker 1: a play that people are trying to duplicate and they can't.

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Speaker 1: It's a business model nobody can duplicate. And for that reason,

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Speaker 1: because I'm all for trying new stuff, I kind of

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Speaker 1: look at. I wouldn't want to see. You know, when

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Speaker 1: the Wildcat started, thank god, it didn't work very long.

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Speaker 1: Do you really want the NFL hiking the ball to

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Speaker 1: a tailback? It's not It doesn't look good. And this

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Speaker 1: stuff matters. I mean, the commissioners that understand the television

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, some teams are trying to duplicate

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Speaker 1: skinny quarterbacks. It doesn't work, but it is innovative. There's

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Speaker 1: the Niners were excellent, and that Kirk Cousins historically shrinks

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Speaker 1: in primetime games. He has a bad record on Monday

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Speaker 1: Night Football and against playoff teams in his career, and

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Speaker 1: A couple of small upsets, but four to one win.

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Speaker 1: teams are one in sixteen against Lamar Jackson, right Like,

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Speaker 1: if you've never played against Lamar Jackson live, it's a

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Speaker 1: shock to the system. You get avalanched. The way to

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Speaker 1: So you know, I don't think anything less of the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers. I think the forty nine Ers. When

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Speaker 1: Kittle Bosa's got some you know, a lot of physicality

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Speaker 1: But last year the defensive coordinator was Demiko Ryans. So

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Speaker 1: previous years. And it's I think that's a coaching thing.

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Speaker 1: You know, we always talk about offensive coordinators, but we

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Speaker 2: Well, two things.

425
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Speaker 3: Knowing some people there, I know last year when it

426
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Speaker 3: got weird, they never thought it was that weird because

427
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Speaker 3: they really trusted the guy that they've all the people

428
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Speaker 3: that have been around him the whole time, his character,

429
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Speaker 3: everything that he stood for. They understood that the contract

430
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Speaker 3: situation was kind of its own little thing and it

431
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 3: was throwing him off. But they always win football, like

432
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 3: football came first for Lamar obviously. This year, think about

433
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Speaker 3: that Division two contracts Deshaun Watson. That thing's been weird NonStop.

434
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Speaker 3: Shoulder injury today, injury, it just feels. And their team

435
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 3: talent wise is every bit as good as these top teams,

436
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 3: but the Deshaun Watson situation is all just out of whack.

437
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 3: When you look at the Ravens today, they showed up

438
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 3: like Mike Tyson in his prime. That thing was over

439
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 3: in the first quarter. It was a knockout blow to me,

440
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 3: if I was doing a little herd hierarchy AFC, I

441
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,959
Speaker 3: would still have the Chiefs won. They've earned it, like

442
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Speaker 3: they're just the resume of all those guys and their coach.

443
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Speaker 2: I would have the Ravens two in the AFC, though, Yeah, the.

444
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Speaker 3: Way they're playing, and like we talked about earlier, if somehow,

445
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 3: if I'm the Ravens like getting those home games, I

446
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,199
Speaker 3: do not want to go to Kansas City. Obviously they

447
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 3: have one less loss than you right now, but you know,

448
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 3: Kansas City's probably a fourteen and three team. You got

449
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Speaker 3: to keep stacking these wins because I do think the

450
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Speaker 3: home field advantage for a team that's face that.

451
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Speaker 2: The other elephant the room.

452
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Speaker 3: Is Lamar hasn't had that much, really hasn't had any

453
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Speaker 3: postseason success. So that's an element too. Going to Kansas City.

454
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Speaker 3: I gotta do everything humanly possible to try to get

455
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Speaker 3: that one. See, because I'm with you, Lamar is he

456
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Speaker 3: the MVP right now? I mean basin the mid the

457
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Speaker 3: end of October.

458
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Speaker 1: I think he is. And I think again he's playing.

459
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Speaker 1: He's playing with great confidence. Money can ruin players. It's

460
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Speaker 1: made him a better player. Yeah, and by the way

461
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 1: this team, this receiving group, they're only going to get better.

462
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: They've only played six games together, right, Like, like Odell's knew,

463
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Speaker 1: you know last year, Lamar's not healthy. Now they got

464
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Speaker 1: the rookie wide receiver. It's like, oh, they're good now.

465
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Speaker 1: We also said this, that's the fastest team in the

466
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Speaker 1: league right now.

467
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Speaker 3: He doesn't get enough credit. Mahomes didn't save Kansas City,

468
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 3: he just elevated them.

469
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Speaker 1: Right.

470
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Speaker 3: The Ravens were dead before Lamar. John Harbaugh's career was

471
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Speaker 3: heading in the wrong direction in Baltimore. I'm not he

472
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Speaker 3: would have got a job somewhere else. But the Flacco

473
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Speaker 3: situation that the team was just kind of it just

474
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 3: felt like it had run his course. They had lacked juice,

475
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 3: and he came and he's not just resurrected that franchise,

476
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 3: turned them into perennial power. And it does feel, like

477
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 3: you said, adding as a Flowers, Mark Andrews playing really well.

478
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Speaker 3: The scheme with Todd Munkin, Like I was nervous that

479
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 3: they were gonna try to get away from what they

480
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 3: do well, right, but they've kind of integrated a more

481
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Speaker 3: explosive passing offense.

482
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Speaker 2: Yet he's still very active as a mover.

483
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't call him running like he did in twenty

484
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Speaker 3: nineteen tenty twenty, but his his activity level as an

485
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 3: athlete is still there, and it throws you. He had

486
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Speaker 3: a touchdown today I think to go up twenty when

487
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 3: nothing kind of scrambled around. It was just I don't

488
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Speaker 3: know who else had that in the bag in the NFL.

489
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Speaker 1: Well, it's almost like Jamie Foxx was so naturally funny

490
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: you forgot how good of an actor he was. Right like,

491
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 1: you're like, he can sing too, Yeah, but he was

492
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: so naturally funny and good looking and funny that you forget,

493
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Speaker 1: like of you you ever watched his movies. Lamar was

494
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Speaker 1: so gifted running. I don't think we've ever given them credit.

495
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Speaker 1: Shit in the pocket, But for the record, he's the

496
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Speaker 1: other guy in the league. Side arms it running left,

497
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 1: can throw it, can go the deep ball, can run right.

498
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Speaker 1: Like a lot of guys when they move Mahomes and Lamar,

499
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Speaker 1: when they move, their accuracy doesn't dip, which is hard,

500
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Speaker 1: right you think about it, Think about you're moving, You're

501
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Speaker 1: going up and down. Lamar moving his feet are good.

502
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Speaker 1: I just when I watched that game today, it's one

503
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Speaker 1: of those. Detroit's better than that. If they played in Detroit,

504
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: it would be better. But Detroit looked a little plodding.

505
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: Baltimore looked like a track team. US he close lost

506
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: once again. The defense couldn't make a stop. So I

507
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 1: think the defensive side, I think you can shore up

508
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: a lot of what they do with a new defensive coordinator.

509
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Speaker 1: With Alex Grinch losing, you know, moving on. I do

510
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Speaker 1: think Bear Alexander will play in the pros. I think

511
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Speaker 1: they have a linebacker who's a probe. I think they've

512
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Speaker 1: got a safety that's a pro. They don't have Michigan talent.

513
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: They don't have Bama Georgia talent. But if you went

514
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,719
Speaker 1: to like team six to team sixteen in the college

515
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: football world, their talents somewhat comparable. I mean, Washington doesn't

516
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: have great talent. They have a good edge rusher. Here's

517
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 1: something let me throw at you. What's really regressed has

518
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: been their offensive line, and you're like, they got a

519
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: couple NFL guys there. They absolutely upgraded with transfers. They

520
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: actually have some depth on the interior due to recruiting.

521
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Speaker 1: What's happened as I watched them, I think Caleb is

522
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: just ad libbing a lot more than he was last year.

523
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Speaker 1: Between the confidence, the heisman, the power, the nil money,

524
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Speaker 1: he's sort of doing his own thing. And it's a

525
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Speaker 1: little Josh Allen that when you're we always say the

526
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Speaker 1: Bill's O line is terrible, it's not. They've got a

527
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Speaker 1: pro bowler, but Josh at times he's a little more

528
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Speaker 1: This year. I think he's a little more defined or refined.

529
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Speaker 1: But when Josh is out there running, it's hard. As

530
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Speaker 1: an offensive lineman. You're kind of at the whim of

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Speaker 1: what Josh Allen wanted to do. And when I watch

532
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: USC because their O line looks terrible, but it's not terrible.

533
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Speaker 1: Their personnel's not terrible. I wonder if Caleb now is

534
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: sort of like, hey, I'm out of the natty picture,

535
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 1: I got my nil money, I'm gonna do what I

536
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Speaker 1: want to do. You think that could be possible.

537
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Speaker 3: Do you remember when the division and really some of

538
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 3: the animosity started in Seattle. You know, probably around seventeen eighteen,

539
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 3: everyone starts shitting on their offensive line and saying Russell

540
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 3: Wilson was running for his life, and a lot of

541
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Speaker 3: former offensive linemen said, well, he's taken off early and

542
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 3: he would make hero ball plays. Now he would make them,

543
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 3: so it kind of bandiated. Well, look at what he did,

544
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 3: but the result was you should have just stayed in

545
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 3: the pocket. And clearly the coaching staff now everyone just

546
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 3: kind of started button heads. I think Caleb's talent is extraordinary,

547
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 3: his arm strength, his athletic his ability to throw moving

548
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 3: left or right, especially across his body. My home style

549
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 3: it's he had to throw last night across his body

550
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 3: to the left side. That was only five guys on

551
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 3: this planet can do that. But he definitely has this

552
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 3: hero ball syndrome, which might not be all his fault

553
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 3: that the program is in somewhat disarray, I do think,

554
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 3: and I get this a lot because they're like, oh,

555
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 3: your boy, he's hyping Caleb up again, And listen, I'm

556
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 3: guilty of this too. We kind of annoyed players as

557
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 3: generational talents or all. He has generational capabilities from an

558
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 3: arm standpoint, but as a prospect, like if you go

559
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 3: Luck or Lway or Manning, he's short relative to those guys,

560
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 3: like the great prospects have all been six four to

561
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 3: six y five, right, and he's I talked to a

562
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 3: guy who's been around them, thinks he's a shade under

563
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 3: six foot one, but he's built like a tank. Yeah,

564
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 3: and he knows that he's very thick and powerful. I

565
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 3: do think that all time great prospects up, he's a

566
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Speaker 3: really good prospect who is gonna go ninety five percent

567
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Speaker 3: number one overall and worst case snaro.

568
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Speaker 2: Go number two overall. But I think we see some plause.

569
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Speaker 3: I mean we see some of the numbers now against

570
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 3: better teams, Notre Dame and especially Utah, high end defensive players,

571
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 3: well coached guys. They're gonna be playing on Sunday, and

572
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 3: he doesn't look like he did against Arizona in some

573
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 3: of these games. Now, I listen the program, I think

574
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Speaker 3: banning the reporter, not allowing NFL scouts in there for

575
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Speaker 3: a month and a half, not having the players talk,

576
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Speaker 3: like to me, some of their priorities.

577
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Speaker 2: It's like, is Nick Saban obsessed with that bullshit? Of course?

578
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 2: Not like what is Lincoln?

579
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Speaker 3: I don't I think some of their priorities, And I

580
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 3: think sometimes I remember when the forty nine ers drafted

581
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 3: Hufunga and Drake Jackson and they said, obviously the sc

582
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 3: was in shambles. Then with Clay Hilton and they said,

583
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 3: you know, Drake Jackson got a bad rap, but so

584
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 3: do most players. When coaches are getting fired and things

585
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 3: are in disarray, who Fungo was the guy that even

586
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 3: people that are getting fired, getting tarnished coaches, they all

587
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 3: had good things to say about him. And that's a

588
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 3: very very small percentage of humans that are able to

589
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 3: kind of rise above it. And I don't know Caleb,

590
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 3: I've never heard bad things, but it does feel like

591
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 3: he's kind of in the middle right now of the weirdness.

592
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 3: And I gotta start with the blame you, paigu one

593
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty million dollars. It does start with the

594
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 3: head coach, and it feels like he's lost control a

595
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 3: little bit of just some of the basic details of

596
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Speaker 3: a high end program.

597
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Speaker 1: All right, Time for another edition of Sharp or Square.

598
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Speaker 1: Chad was super sharp, I was kind of sharp. I

599
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: was three and two last week. All of our odds

600
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Speaker 1: provided by Draft Kings Chad, of course, to CCEO the

601
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: Action Network, I'll tell you I have taken more favorites

602
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: than any other year because I think there's becoming a

603
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: gap offensively between the halves the quarterbacks that are good

604
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: and the have nots. And so Monday I made a

605
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Speaker 1: huge mistake. I took Rock pretty over Kirk Cousins at home,

606
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: and Cousins was great. So I'm gonna throw you a game.

607
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Speaker 1: And it's very number dependent. I don't like it at

608
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Speaker 1: three and a half, but at three it's interesting. I

609
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: don't think we're paying attention to how good the Texans are.

610
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Speaker 1: And just hear me out. They destroyed Pittsburgh, they destroyed Jacksonville. Okay,

611
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Speaker 1: this is a team that is a play away. They

612
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Speaker 1: should have beaten the Falcons, although the Falcons was the

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Speaker 1: right side. This team has taken quality teams, playoff teams,

614
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Speaker 1: high seeds potentially and destroyed them. Carolina. We lauded them

615
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: for keeping it close in the first half against Miami.

616
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Speaker 1: They are in complete utter rebuild. At minus three, I

617
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Speaker 1: love Houston. At three and a half, I'm a square.

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Speaker 1: But let's say the number drifts back to Texans minus three,

619
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Speaker 1: which I take is that sharper square, totally sharp.

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Speaker 4: The wise guys have been on CJ. Stroud from the beginning,

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Speaker 4: and when I say from the beginning, I mean March.

622
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Speaker 4: There's nobody in the professional petting community who spent a

623
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Speaker 4: lot of time looking at a tape and spent a

624
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 4: lot of money betting on the NFL draft. Who thought,

625
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Speaker 4: oh yeah, I like Bryce Young over CJ.

626
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Speaker 1: Stroud.

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Speaker 4: It's pretty well known within sort of the inner circle

628
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 4: of NFL executive dom that Bryce Young was an owner's

629
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Speaker 4: pick and that the player most people wanted was CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud.

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Speaker 4: He lands at the Texans. He's been by far the

632
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Speaker 4: best rookie quarterback, and not just sort of making good

633
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Speaker 4: plays and then not making mistakes, but he's made Robert

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Speaker 4: Woods look good. He's made Nico Collins look good.

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Speaker 1: He's one of the targets back this week too, by

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Speaker 1: the way, I think Tanks Pice. Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 4: You know, his worst game, he still ended up leading

638
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 4: the team to a touchdown drive in the final two minutes,

639
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 4: and then they ended up losing because the defense couldn't

640
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 4: stop anybody. But look this guy off of by the

641
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 4: wise guys like the Texans that might which is why

642
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 4: it's gone up to three and a half.

643
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Speaker 1: All right. The Steelers have been out gained in every game,

644
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: and in fact, they've often been awful for large chunks

645
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: of the game offensively, but they found ways to win.

646
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: I think that ends this week. Jacksonville's a better team

647
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: at two and a half. Jacksonville, I think has a

648
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: real shot. I mean, what's interesting about Jacksonville three games

649
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: on a very short period on the road for two

650
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: games we were worried how they play against Indy. They

651
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 1: keep kind of busting up these trends because they're probably

652
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: pretty good outside of Kansas City last year where they

653
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: felt a little overwhelmed. They kind of stack up with

654
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: everybody when I watch them play minus two and a half,

655
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: they are the side to me over the Steelers don't

656
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: care about home in a way. Whether it's not a

657
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: factory yet sharper square.

658
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 4: Now it's the Steelers are the sharp side. It all

659
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 4: may come undone one day for the Steelers, but Mike

660
00:34:54,760 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 4: Tomlin is the most profitable coach in the NFL against

661
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 4: the spread the past twenty years. Mike Tomlin against teams

662
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 4: that are over sixty percent winning percentage, regularly wins at

663
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 4: home as an underdog. Mike Tomlin as an underdog at

664
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 4: home sixteen and nine straight up. Forget about against the spread.

665
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 4: We saw it last week, We've seen it against the Ravens.

666
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 4: This team is really weird because they played terribly in

667
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 4: the first half, and then in the second half the

668
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 4: defense starts to grind down the offense a little bit,

669
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 4: and TJ. Watt when he's on the field, it's just

670
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 4: a different team, right. He tilts the field in the

671
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 4: direction of the Steelers. We saw last week the first

672
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 4: play the second half interception, runs it back to the

673
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 4: three yard line. It catapulted them to a win. I

674
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 4: think the Steelers are better with Deontay Johnson back. It

675
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 4: frees up George Pickens to be more of a threat downfield.

676
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 4: That makes Kenny Picktt more comfortable. It's just a better

677
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 4: offense that set the Jags an interesting team. So I'm

678
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 4: a little bit nervous about it, Like there have been

679
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 4: times this year. Steelers against the Ravens, Bet it didn't

680
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 4: even think about it. Steelers against the Rams last week,

681
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 4: Bet it didn't even think about it. I don't know

682
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 4: why I'm a little more nervous about the Jags. But

683
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 4: I'm still taking the Steelers, and that's the sharp side.

684
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 1: All right. Another game which I'm undecided now but off

685
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: of by offensive coach Joe Burrow against a San Francisco

686
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 1: team now in a backup quarterback with no Trent Williams

687
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: or debo. Sam Darnold is built for Kyle Shanahan, perhaps,

688
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: but I'm not sure if he's built to be inserted

689
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 1: missing a left tackle in one of their specialty players.

690
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: If I get four, it feels like a slam dunk.

691
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: Cincinnati at three and a half probably still is. I'm

692
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: undecided on it, but I've gone back and forth. Jmack

693
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 1: and I talked about this on the air and off

694
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 1: on FS one. I would think Bingals anything over three

695
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 1: would be the side sharper square.

696
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think that's right, and it's your your nail

697
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 4: at the number. Similarly to the Texans conversation. You get

698
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 4: minus three, you're probably gonna take the Niners. If you

699
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 4: can get the hook at three and a half, you

700
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 4: can get it at four, then you're going to take

701
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 4: the Bengals. I think before before this game, a lot

702
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 4: of consensus was going to be on the Niners. They've

703
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 4: had some bad luck. They missed a field goal that

704
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 4: cost them against the Browns. They missed a field goal,

705
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 4: had three strange uncharacteristic turnovers. Turns out two of them

706
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 4: might have come after brock Party was concussed and through interceptions,

707
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 4: and they gave up a weird touchdown at the end

708
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 4: of that first half against the Vikings on an all out.

709
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,919
Speaker 1: Blitz that is just rare for Steve Wilkes to call.

710
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 4: And so this team was coming back home as a

711
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 4: five and a half point favorite in a game where

712
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 4: I think a lot of wise guys thought, Okay, the

713
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 4: Niners are going to get right now, parties out, But

714
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 4: I think the consensus is going to be if they're

715
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 4: a short favorite, they're still going to back. Then if

716
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 4: wise guys can get the hook, they'll take the Bengals.

717
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 4: People are not that convinced Joe Burrows back, and he

718
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 4: did not look great in the second half of that

719
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,479
Speaker 4: game they had right before the bye. He's still having

720
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 4: trouble getting the ball downfield. Not great percentage wise throwing

721
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 4: the ball downfield. So there's a lot of sort of

722
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 4: mixed feelings about this. This is entirely about the number.

723
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: Okay, I think Patriots plus nine and a half at

724
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: Miami feels right, not because they beat Buffalo injuries on

725
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: the O line. I think it's very clear that Miami

726
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: has not beaten a playoff team since Week three of

727
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: last year or what we consider a top end team.

728
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: It's a lot of fake Gucci loafers and leasing a speedboat.

729
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: It's fun to look at, but when you dig deeper,

730
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: don't have much of a chin. Offensive lines bad translation.

731
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: New England will get pressure. They do usually even against

732
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: decental lines. They're running the ball a little better. Mac

733
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: Jones with confident Belichick buoye by that contract that's public.

734
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: The team played with a certain swagger. It's not just

735
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: the Buffalo number. It's a division game. Nine and a

736
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: half's a ton. I do think weather cools You're not

737
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 1: going down to Miami in the swamp in the second

738
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: week of September. It's not going to be a factor.

739
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: I think I would have to take New England in

740
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 1: the points Sharper square. Yeah, that's the sharp side.

741
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 4: And it's funny you say, sort of the fake guccies

742
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 4: and speedboats, right like, Look, Miami is reflection of the

743
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 4: city is playing in right now and they have not

744
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 4: beaten good teams. And we've talked about this last week.

745
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 4: My biggest bet at the season was the Eagles at

746
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 4: two and a half over the Dolphins, right, and what

747
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 4: we're going to see, what we started to see with

748
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 4: the Patriots against the Bills, Bill O'Brien a lot more

749
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 4: with Mac Jones under center, a lot more short passes.

750
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 4: That defense, which had lost Matthew Judon, had lost Christian

751
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 4: Gonzales started to figure out, Okay, how are we going

752
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 4: to play? How are we going to who rush the passer?

753
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 4: The Dolphins without key players on the offensive line. I

754
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 4: do think Tyreek Hill practice today, so very good chance

755
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 4: that he plays on Sunday. But the wise guys, they

756
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 4: push this number from ten down to nine and a half,

757
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 4: down to nine divisional games, the underdogs and divisional games.

758
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 4: The last decade, sixty games above five hundred against the spread,

759
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 4: and we got a few of those games this week.

760
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: All right. We finish with two things. The first is

761
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: talk me into a game. I often give it to you,

762
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: and it's the Rams plus six to six and a

763
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: half against Dallas. So against Philadelphia and against San Francisco

764
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: they were clearly outclassed. But the fact that they hung

765
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: around Pittsburgh. They are in a rebuild. One RAMS player,

766
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: one high end RAMS player. They have one that's in

767
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: his prime, Ernest Brown, Cooper, Stafford haven Stein Donald. They're

768
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: out of their prime. Pittsburg's probably got nine guys in

769
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: their prime. They're young. That game was go either way

770
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: entering the fourth, and it was a Pittsburgh Steeler crowd.

771
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: So I think McVeigh is doing a remarkable job with

772
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: an old Aaron Donald and mostly rookies and six round,

773
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: fourth round picks. I like the coaching here. It's a

774
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 1: lot of points. I think the Rams will stay close.

775
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: They're fairly healthy. I think i'd like the Rams plus

776
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: the points. But the Vegas is so smart DraftKings it's seven.

777
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: I think it's such a great bet for the Rams.

778
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: It's six and a half. I don't know. You tell me,

779
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: talk me into it.

780
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 4: So it's interesting you bring this up. This was the

781
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 4: biggest debate that me and my bff Simon Hunter had

782
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 4: in our podcast, and I love the Cowboys. In this spot,

783
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 4: Simon wants to love the Cowboys but can't quite find

784
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 4: the exact number, like it's six, six and a half.

785
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 4: It's basically lined right, Like you just said, the bookmakers

786
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 4: know what they're doing. We cannot find sort of a

787
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 4: consensus wise guy opinion on this because the number is

788
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 4: so right. I'm all in on the Cowboys for a

789
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 4: couple of reasons. I think they're much more talented. I

790
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 4: think I think Mike McCarthy's a terrible coach, and I

791
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 4: think he is he is putting his team at a

792
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 4: disadvantage inside the red zone. And I think over the

793
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,439
Speaker 4: course of his career, it has been proven that if

794
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 4: any other coach was working with Aaron Rodgers, he probably

795
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 4: would have more Super Bowls. Like he's just not a

796
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 4: very good play caller. But the Cowboys defense is so good.

797
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 4: Their pressure from just four players on the front line

798
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 4: is insane. And the reason the Steelers beat the Rams

799
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 4: last week is because of the pressure they got on

800
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 4: a terrible, terrible Rams o line. So the opportunity here

801
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 4: is to put a lot of pressure on Matthew Stafford

802
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 4: and look if he can beat the pressure and get

803
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 4: the ball to Puka Nukua. If he can get the

804
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 4: ball to Cooper Cup, that changes it. Because the Cowboys

805
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 4: do have a lot of issues with their back line.

806
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 4: But we saw against Justin Herbert the Cowboys had thirty

807
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 4: three pressures and hit Justin Herbert twenty six times, even

808
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 4: though they barely sacked him. Like the end of the game,

809
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 4: Micah Parsons got him once, but that impacted him enough

810
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 4: that he was making bad throws, rushing throws. So I

811
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 4: also like the Cowboys.

812
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: Off of by coming home.

813
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 4: Dak when he's at home, covers and he covers Big

814
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 4: Dak on the road as an underdog in these games

815
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 4: against teams where they are playing opponents who are usually

816
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 4: better than them, in the high profile spots that we're

817
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 4: used to seeing, that's when he struggles and that's where

818
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 4: you see sort of the disadvantage that he has with

819
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy as a coach. But at home, as a favorite,

820
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 4: he's a front runner. That's a good spot to get healthy.

821
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 4: I like the Cowboys in this spot.

822
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: Finally, what did I miss? What's the stinker room that

823
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: you want to talk me into? There's two of them.

824
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: There's two of them.

825
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 4: We didn't talk about two ugly division.

826
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: Listen, I know Washington's one of them, right that. I

827
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: looked at that and I thought, you know what's funny

828
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: about them? Half to half game to game you have

829
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: no idea what you're getting. But I got to tell

830
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: you this. There are moments when I watched Sam Hall

831
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: and I'm like, he's a mid level franchise quarterback. When

832
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 1: you give them time to step and throw.

833
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 4: It is pretty good, right, Yeah, that's exactly it. Washington

834
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 4: plus six and a half. Look, Denver opened at eight

835
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 4: and a half, got bet down to eight by the

836
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 4: wise guys, got bet down to seven and a half

837
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 4: by the wise guys. Some places, it's seven now. A

838
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 4: wise guys love in Denver in the past couple of weeks.

839
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 4: First when they played Kansas City, they thought, oh, was

840
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 4: Mahomes just off in this game? Is that why the

841
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,919
Speaker 4: defense was so good? And then they played Green Bay

842
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 4: and Matt Lafloor is really good at scheming his guys open,

843
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 4: and Denver did a good job of stopping the Packers

844
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 4: plus Javonte Williams six weeks into the season. Seven weeks

845
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 4: into the season, much more explosive. You're starting to see

846
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 4: Sean Payton give him the ball more. It's why you've

847
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 4: seen again Brother Division games, big favorites. The Chiefs not

848
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 4: great at covering three and a half.

849
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: Not a big cover, big number team.

850
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 4: It's hard to cover big numbers when you're always favored

851
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 4: by a big number. Right, So there's a little bit

852
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 4: of a self fulfilling prophecy here where you get Patrick

853
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 4: mahomes as a short favorite and underdog. He's so good

854
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,479
Speaker 4: he's gonna win in those games. But if every game

855
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 4: you're favored by three and a half to ten, it's

856
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 4: hard to always cover in those games. So the wise

857
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 4: guys like Denver, and the wise guys love Washington. They

858
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 4: think it's a tough spot for the Eagles. They've got

859
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 4: big games coming up. So it's a little bit of

860
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 4: a look ahead, a little bit of a trap game

861
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 4: on the road.

862
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: Is hurts hurt?

863
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 3: We don't know.

864
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 4: Is Lane Johnson struggling? We don't know that often still

865
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 4: isn't perfect. So there's some some money coming on the commanders.

866
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 4: I like them both.

867
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: I bet them both.

868
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: Be my buddy.

869
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 4: Be my buddy, Colin, be my bad game betting buddy.

870
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 4: I went four and one last week. You went three

871
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 4: and two. I went four and one because I went.

872
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 4: I made the extra effort. Okay, I made the effort.

873
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: You know. The downside to having taste is you you

874
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: won't go down to the stinkorama game, the dumpster game. Oh,

875
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: is that what you're calling it?

876
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 3: Taste?

877
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 4: Is that how you're framing this that that is a

878
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 4: masterclass and narrative right there. I like it, well done.

879
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 1: All dumpster dive and take Washington. Why not you will? Yeah,

880
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: I kind of They're all over the map. But I

881
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: mean Philadelphia comes off a big TV emotional game, late game,

882
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: little less prep time to division rival, big games ahead.

883
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: I do think it's the kind of game that you

884
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: would say to yourself, let's wrest Lane Johnson. You know

885
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: what I mean. This is a deep team, and we

886
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: know this that Washington has moments. We know this, so

887
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: I and Philadelphia has. I thought that Miami game was

888
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: the first game. I thought they really played well. And

889
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: at one point it was seventeen seventeen, So in Miami's

890
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: really a team Philadelphia's built to beat. Washington's a team

891
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: that's built to play Philadelphia close, physical trenches, can run

892
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: it a little. That's I don't think that's big dumpster diving.

893
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: I looked at that game. You know again, these the

894
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: wise guys are smart, like like you know, six and

895
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: a half three and a half, like I like San Francisco.

896
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: But you make if three and a half four was

897
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, then it's not as attractive. It's just not

898
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: a good, bad all right, we gotta go.

899
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 4: I like how this ended up being you know what,

900
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 4: I like them. It's no longer dumpster diving. It's really

901
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 4: this is the filet. I'm like a home underdog.

902
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: I likes right here at the Stanza. I'm grabbing an

903
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: e Claire out of the garbage.

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00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:21,720
Speaker 2: Just quickly.

905
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 1: It was only there five seconds.

906
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 4: That's that's why you are a multi media mogul.

907
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, those kind of references quick. All right, buddy, see you.

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00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 3: I'd rather i'll see you later. The volume