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Speaker 2: but without further ado, I have Dean Stott former SBS,

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Speaker 2: which is Special Boat Service, not to be confused with

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Speaker 2: Special Air Service.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's all right, that is correct, Yeah, very correct.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But also extreme athlete, father, husband, someone who misses

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Speaker 2: his family when he has to deploy and has to

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Speaker 2: write letters or thinks about them, you know, This is

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Speaker 2: somebody who's living a life among us, probably teaches soccer

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Speaker 2: to his kids and next to your kids. You know,

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Speaker 2: these are folks that just go above and beyond the

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Speaker 2: athletic spectrum, right, extreme athletes like Olympians and Dean you

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Speaker 2: fall into that, I know, you know that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, purely by accident. Yeah, but it was Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's true, Yeah, it is true. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean one of the things that I've investigated, you know,

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Speaker 2: through getting ready to talk with you, is that you

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Speaker 2: did a fourteen thousand mile trek all the way to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the bottom of argent then the southern tip of

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Speaker 3: Argentina to northern Alaska's it's the world's longest road runs

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Speaker 3: as you touched on fourteen thousand miles or twenty two

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Speaker 3: thousand kilometers depending where your listeners come from. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was a world record attempt, and I'd never cycled

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Speaker 3: and so just sort of decided, no, I wanted to

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Speaker 3: test myself. I always wanted to do a will record,

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Speaker 3: and you know, as a young boys to read the

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Speaker 3: Guinness Book of Records. But unfortunately had a parachute injury

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Speaker 4: I did sixteen years and had to leave.

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Speaker 3: And so the will Record had to be a challenge

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Speaker 3: the world's longest road. I'd only cycled twenty miles I

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Speaker 3: at the age of forty, I applied for the will

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Speaker 3: So that was I applied for the will Record in

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Speaker 2: So congratulations on getting that world record achievement. It's not

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Speaker 2: like you're just stacking pennies in a minute, okay, like

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Speaker 2: hamper my knee, right, everything else seems to be good

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Speaker 2: on you. You know. Funny you said you were jumping

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Speaker 2: out of an airplane when that happened. Yeah, my dad

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can imagine, Yeah, we did. I was very

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, yeah, And technologies have banned so much

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Speaker 3: one thing that's really stood out to me as we've

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Speaker 2: you know, we talked so cordially, but you are super

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because you were just like pushing through it just

434
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 2: to get through the ailment. Because yeah, I mean, geez,

435
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,879
Speaker 2: how many days total was it? Ninety nine days is

436
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,000
Speaker 2: what you were on that track?

437
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:53,399
Speaker 4: It was ninety nine days.

438
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. I took ten days off to South America will Record,

439
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,360
Speaker 3: and then I got I got into I got into

440
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 3: North America America Del Rio on day seventy and I

441
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 3: was fourteen days ahead of the will record and I'm

442
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 3: like perfect. You know, my wife's the campaign director.

443
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:09,879
Speaker 4: She was running.

444
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 3: She got me to sponsorship, she fundraised, She took all

445
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 3: those distractions away from me, so all I had to

446
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,399
Speaker 3: do was focus on the on the bike ride and

447
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 3: she rang me up. Literally had five miss calls when

448
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,719
Speaker 3: I got into Texas. And I don't know what it

449
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 3: was getting into Texas, but it was just like a huge,

450
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 3: a huge relief, a huge weight off the shoulders. It

451
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,879
Speaker 3: was almost like being on escaping evasion and getting to

452
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,200
Speaker 3: the war RV. I don't know if it was because

453
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,480
Speaker 3: you know, the language, everyone spoke the same language, the

454
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,359
Speaker 3: culinary options, you know, the food was probably you know,

455
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,120
Speaker 3: more familiar with it, or the fact that having spoken.

456
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,439
Speaker 2: Was their supplies pretty much, even though there is no

457
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 2: supplies in the world, we seem to have some still,

458
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 2: yeah you know.

459
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah yeah.

460
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 4: And I had a support team with me with bikes.

461
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 3: Anyway, I respect, but I think it was the fact

462
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 3: that having spoken, the previous record holders, all those issues

463
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 3: well behind you, behind us, You're behind me, so we're

464
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 3: on the We're on the home run. And so it

465
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 3: was like a huge relief, but that that soon that

466
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 3: soon changed. Within an hour, I had five misscalls off

467
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 3: my wife and I'm like, oh, there's obviously something wrong

468
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,199
Speaker 3: with the children. And she ran me to tell me

469
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 3: invited to Harry and Meghan's wedding. I said that's nice,

470
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,199
Speaker 3: and she goes, no, you don't understand. You need to

471
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 3: now be finished day one hundred and two, and so

472
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 3: going into the phone call, I was fourteen days ahead.

473
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 4: I'm now ten minutes later.

474
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,239
Speaker 3: I'm now a day behind, and so I yeah, so

475
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 3: all those efforts before me had to change.

476
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 4: So that was probably one of the.

477
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 2: Homies for me. You're a homie a holly right there. Yeah,

478
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,120
Speaker 2: You're like, all right, all right, you're like that, that's

479
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 2: a homie. There's that's friendship, right, is it? I love that.

480
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 2: I love that your friends with the Prince and or

481
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 2: Harry with yeah and the fairy. Yeah yeah, you know,

482
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 2: yeah awesome, how awesome? Yeah?

483
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 3: So so yeah, so yeah, I had to change the

484
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,719
Speaker 3: way that I cycled. I got to love it. In Texas,

485
00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 3: we had sixty mile an hour winds and tornadoes, so

486
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 3: I was. I was grounded now for another twenty four hours,

487
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 3: so I was now two days behind. So there's a

488
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 3: there's an app on your phone called Windy TV, and

489
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 3: it gives you the strength and directions of the winds

490
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 3: forecasted every hour for the next two weeks.

491
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 4: And so I just changed the plan. I just put

492
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 4: pen to paper.

493
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 3: I had to cycle three hundred and forty miles in

494
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 3: the next thirty six hours to miss the next weather window.

495
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 3: And the majority of my cycling was done at night

496
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 3: because that's when the winds had subsided.

497
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 4: So I just played chess with mother Nature found not

498
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:31,719
Speaker 4: like it winds.

499
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, and and also use it to my advantage. I

500
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 3: got to shy End oh wow.

501
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of open space there.

502
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 3: Picked up a beautiful yeah, I picked up a beautiful

503
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 3: tail wind wind I covered. I did two hundred seventy

504
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 3: miles and eleven hours with ten thousand feet of climbing.

505
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 3: You know, so was also using it. So I had

506
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 3: seventeen days planned for North America. Originally I cycled eleven

507
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 3: and a half days. So you know, the success of

508
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 3: this challenge was the fact that you know the start

509
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 3: point in your object active, which is always the same.

510
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 3: It was just being reactive to the situation changes on

511
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 3: the ground as they happen. Other people may have struggled

512
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 3: and been like, you know, been a bit overwhelming, but

513
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 3: for me, I'm used to that. In the Special Forces,

514
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 3: you get dropped into and security. You get dropped into

515
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 3: these situations and you don't know what the infrastructure is like,

516
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 3: you don't know what you're gonna expect, but you still

517
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 3: have an objective and you do everything in your power

518
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 3: to meet that objective.

519
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 2: Completed. Its wonderful. So okay, let's just pick up what

520
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 2: you meant. You brought it up. You brought up you know,

521
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,959
Speaker 2: the wedding, and so the day is now what and

522
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 2: you've made it to Alaska.

523
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 3: So made it to Alaska on day I did it

524
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 3: sort of going back again slightly because there was another

525
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 3: curve as well.

526
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 4: I was a week outside and.

527
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 3: I was in a town called white Horse, and I

528
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 3: was eating as I was eating about.

529
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 4: Big meals, you know, I mean, I was losing weight.

530
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 3: I was losing weight from the day that I started

531
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 3: to So I finished and my mate ranked the two

532
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 3: gentlemen I met in Dubai told me about this guy

533
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 3: who's he's a professional cyclist. He does.

534
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 4: This is a living.

535
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 3: He's got three Whill records, sponsored by all the big brands,

536
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 3: red Ball. He's about twenty six years old, you know,

537
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 3: he's in his prime. And he come out on social

538
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 3: media and said that he was going to cycle the

539
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 3: Pan American Highway and be the first man to do

540
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 3: it under hundred days. And so for me, I was that, well,

541
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 3: I can't. You know, I was well within my will record,

542
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 3: and I thought, well if I if I don't push

543
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 3: on even harder and try to get in on a

544
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 3: one hundred days, you know, would I be able to

545
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 3: live with myself.

546
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 4: So I had to cycle for twenty.

547
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 3: Two hours in the last thirty hours in minus eighteen

548
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 3: in the snow in Prudeo Bay to come in under

549
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 3: that one hundred day things. So again, even to the

550
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 3: very last day, the plan was changing or the objective

551
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 3: was changing. So it was a huge fee. Obviously achieved

552
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 3: it under one hundred days, but more impressively, Alana raised

553
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 3: one point three million dollars for charity as well, which

554
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 3: was huge. So as you touched on, we then had

555
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 3: to like my found my wife and kids. I think

556
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 3: they're the only kids ever to be at prude Obaker

557
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 3: as an oil rig as hotels up there, and so yeah,

558
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 3: the I don't think you call them right, yeah, reflect

559
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 3: on the Yeah, they were on the they were on

560
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 3: the flight from Anchorage to prude Obey and wondering why

561
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 3: there's like an eighteen month old baby and a you know,

562
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 3: a five year old five year old sorry, six year

563
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 3: old girl on it.

564
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 2: The program and new generation.

565
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 3: Yeah they haven't seen Yeah, they'd never seen kids before.

566
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 3: So yeah, we left there, went via Anchorage and flew

567
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 3: back to UK and I got back to the UK

568
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 3: probably two days before the wedding, but as soon as

569
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 3: I landed. The first day was fifteen TV and radio interviews.

570
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 3: The next day was fifteen TV radio interviews, just prior

571
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 3: to the wedding. And him and I saw each other

572
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 3: briefly as he came out the castle one day to

573
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 3: see the public. He ran over and saw that, you know,

574
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 3: I saw that I was there. Lost my weight, Yeah,

575
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 3: I lost about twenty five pounds in Weiters well from

576
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 3: the challenge. But what was really frustrating, not frustrating, it's

577
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 3: I didn't really get time to a get used to

578
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 3: being around my family again, you know, and started rebuilding

579
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 3: that bond with them and just spend time, and I

580
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 3: really appreciate what we'd achieved as a family as well,

581
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 3: me and Alana and his two a huge high, the

582
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 3: world's biggest event that was going on, you know, the

583
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 3: world's cameras, and so, I mean all the questions I

584
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 3: had were how are you feeling about the wedding?

585
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 4: And then post wedding was you know, what did you eat?

586
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 3: What did you drink? And I'm like, really, I've just

587
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 3: record to records the first man in history and raised

588
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 3: one point three million dollars, but no one was interested.

589
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 3: It was almost like the wedding had overshadowed what you'd done.

590
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 3: So for me personally, been.

591
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 2: So like what you eat?

592
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like yeah, yeah, I would have loved to

593
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 3: have had had that time to take on board what

594
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 3: I'd done before. We hadn't had a huge high, you know,

595
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 3: great for me in Alana, but again at the wedding,

596
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 3: I was still coming to terms in fact what I've

597
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 3: done and being around people again. And then all of

598
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 3: a sudden You're immersed with the Beckhams and Clooneys, the

599
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 3: you know of the world in the same little room.

600
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 2: And you go from this again regimented lifestyle, right is

601
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: when I so when I started working out in boxing.

602
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 2: I've just been going every day now, and then when

603
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 2: I miss a day, it's like I'm guilty of something. Yeah, right,

604
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: I'm like I should be there, they're there, I'm not there.

605
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 2: Why are they there? And I'm not there? But I

606
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: have to take my kid to like back to school,

607
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: so I had to step away take care of the family, right,

608
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: because that's what's important. That's what even put me off

609
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 2: today was going back to my son's first day of

610
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 2: high school here and walking them through his classes to

611
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 2: make sure he knows where he's going. And I'm just like,

612
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 2: I'm so glad I'm done school on that level. But

613
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 2: I'm always learning still, Dean. It's the same thing you say.

614
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 2: You can't just stop. You can't just say, oh, I'm

615
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 2: the teacher now, you have to always be the student.

616
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 2: Like that's that's always learning, right, Just always what's up,

617
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: what's down? And what would you do differently on the mission?

618
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 2: And you know when I do my war games with

619
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 2: my team here, we have those same things. We have

620
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 2: a hot wash at the very end of every night game.

621
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: We're like how'd everybody do? Give us one up and

622
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 2: one down? Well, my weapon wasn't cleaned and I could

623
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 2: have done better. Okay, what went up? Well, the team

624
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 2: performed well for me, you know, et cetera. So what's

625
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: the one up and one down? And I think if

626
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 2: we just you know, you can do that in your

627
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: daily life. You can one up and one down? What

628
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: went good for me today? And what could I do differently?

629
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: It's not just something that you know, guys with a

630
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: whiteboard in their office. A lot of Special Forces guys

631
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 2: have a long whiteboard and they sit there and they

632
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: write on this whiteboard all the way out for like

633
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: four or five years of their lives. I've seen it.

634
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: My dad did it. I know other SF guys that

635
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 2: still have it who are out of the military. But

636
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 2: it's like somewhere there's a whiteboard and they're proper planning.

637
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's all about that, I mean, and then

638
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 3: just yeah, proper planning and also not a bit on

639
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 3: my bike ride, you know, planning was key.

640
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 4: You know, when I do guest speaking, I contradict myself.

641
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 3: Guys. I talk about the importance of the planning and

642
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 3: the planning that went into the beginning, but then also

643
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 3: not being too upset when the plan has to change.

644
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 3: You know, that is a plan. It's good to have

645
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 3: a plan, but there needs to be flexibility in that

646
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 3: plan as well.

647
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 2: Well. That's just like making a decisive decision in a

648
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: situation where you're like what do I do and you're like, well,

649
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: I got to go right or left? You're gonna deal

650
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 2: with going left or you're going going right, whatever it is.

651
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 2: You just got to make that decision.

652
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 3: Stick with your decision.

653
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then's fix it. We should lean right instead

654
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 2: of left, lean.

655
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 4: Don't go right, and then just keep looking left, right.

656
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 2: Right, right, exactly, yeah, exactly. That's awesome, dude. And so

657
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: you know as SBS, that's Special Boat Service. You came

658
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 2: from the regiment though, right, is that the army regiment?

659
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 2: Is that right? No?

660
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 3: No, So I came. I came from the Army. I

661
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 3: was in the engineers. I was I did. I was

662
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 3: a commando reconnaissance so paratrooper and a commando. I was

663
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 3: also a diver in the military. So I'd served since

664
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 3: young around it was green berry, yeah, so save me

665
00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 3: the Royals, the coveted green Beret, and so I spent

666
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 3: my time working with Rayal Marines. I was an instructordo

667
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 3: course as well. And and but but as you touched

668
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 3: on you to go SS, you chorries to go SBS.

669
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 3: You had before I went was one hundredcent Raal Marines.

670
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 3: The se S would take Marines, Army Force, et cetera.

671
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 3: But actually the Marines were losing a lot of candidates

672
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 3: to the S E S because they didn't like the diving,

673
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 3: so they then decided to open up Try service. So

674
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 3: unlike here in the US where you have Delta Force

675
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 3: have their own selection process and dev grew six Yeah,

676
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 3: their own one as is the same s S and

677
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 3: SBS is exactly the same six month selection.

678
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 4: People don't know that we don't have a separate one.

679
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 3: So it's not as if like I'm going to SBS

680
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 3: because it's it's harder or easier than the SS.

681
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 2: It's the same. You know. I've actually got a funny

682
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: story about I've stood on the spot where the SBS

683
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 2: was created at Fort Cumberland, really inside the room. I

684
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 2: had a spot of t just last year as matter

685
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 2: of fact, and I got to go and check out

686
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: a seventeenth century journal. Yeah, and I didn't realize what

687
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,479
Speaker 2: I was looking at first, you know, and the guy's like, oh, yea,

688
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,239
Speaker 2: it's a seventeenth century urinal and I said, oh, let

689
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: me check this out. And I was like, yeah, that's

690
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 2: where you piss, mate. And I was like, oh, you're

691
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 2: all right, And so he turned his head lighter and

692
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 2: his head torch on, and I'm in there and it's

693
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 2: this seventeenth century stoned out piss at Fort Cumberland. Right,

694
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 2: what a great And then I also got a picture

695
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 2: in front with my buddy Big Phil, who took me

696
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 2: to Fort Cumberland to go check this stuff out, in

697
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 2: front of this Royal Marine statue that stands about thirty

698
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 2: feet tall. It's out front of Yeah. Yeah, yeah a photo.

699
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 4: Oh you're down down in Portsmouth. Yeah, that's down in ports.

700
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 2: Hampton area, right Southampton?

701
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's yeah, Yeah, that's right, that's it. Yeah

702
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 3: and pool SBS Where to Portsmouth Southampton and then Pool.

703
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all on the south.

704
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,959
Speaker 2: And then I learned that they used Fort Cumberland down

705
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: there to trick the Lufwaffa during World War Two to

706
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: set up the boats out on the harbor as city lights.

707
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 2: So when the LUFWAFFA would fly back through bombing raids

708
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: and they didn't want to indiscriminately just drop their ordinance.

709
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: They're dropping in the sea.

710
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 3: Yeah that's right.

711
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And across the way is Normandy and Utah

712
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: and yeah enough, yeah no. And I stood there on

713
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 2: those shores and I looked over like as if Napoleon

714
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 2: was coming at me.

715
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but yeah, so yeah, much disgusting my friends

716
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 3: in the in the says. I went to the SBS

717
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 3: and we started with two hundred, and then six months

718
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 3: later eight pass and I was one of those. And

719
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 3: now fifteen percent of the sps come from the army.

720
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, right right, so SBS, you're probably Ali, right,

721
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 2: Ali Architon, Ali's SBS.

722
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't, I didn't serve, and he was he

723
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 3: was out when I when I went in. But him

724
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 3: and I just did show together in Australia, Australia.

725
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, and all he did the rumble

726
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 2: where he boxed against the Navy seal.

727
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I did. I didn't want. I don't know

728
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 3: that much boxing coming from all.

729
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 2: The guys that stepped in that ring are just good

730
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 2: at my book.

731
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 3: A good Yeah, cool, I did. I did someone to

732
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 3: send me a picture? Yeah no, but yeah no OLLI

733
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 3: but purely from post military. Yeah yeah, that's not the.

734
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 2: Same show though. Now it's just a small world, small world.

735
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: I'll get him on here, Yeah, I'll get him on here.

736
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 3: Smoke community.

737
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. Hey. So you know you say there's a

738
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 2: lot of family in your life, right, you're talking about

739
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 2: the support system of your wife helping you transition from

740
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 2: military to civilian to back to regrouping with the family

741
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 2: and focusing on your you know, transition. So you know,

742
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 2: big shout out to your wife. And doesn't she have

743
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: a book that we can mention?

744
00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 5: Yeah?

745
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, so so my wife act she talked about road

746
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 3: and we've just been in Scotland.

747
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 4: My wife's just been honor the MBE from King Charles.

748
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 3: So we're in Scotland a month ago.

749
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 2: The bad the MBE. That's the bad Yeah yeah, the

750
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 2: number one badge.

751
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I think well there's other ones is over right,

752
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 3: yeah for Civillian Yeah, remember the most excellent Order the

753
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 3: British Empire. It sounds very archaic.

754
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

755
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 3: So she she obviously did the fundraising the fight ride,

756
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 3: but she works a lot in modern slavey and human trafficking.

757
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 3: So there was her services to that, which was good

758
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 3: because you know, everyone sort of sees me, but you know,

759
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 3: I always talk quite highly of her and what she

760
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 3: what she's done and achieved. So for me, that was

761
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 3: great and the fact that you know, she's been recognized

762
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 3: for that. But yeah, she has a book. She has

763
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 3: two books. Actually one's a business book, how to Ask

764
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 3: for Money. And so as a non cyclist, you can

765
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 3: imagine trying to get sponsorship for a challenge that is

766
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 3: she got me. She got me half a million pounds

767
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 3: sponsorship as a non cyclist and then raised one point

768
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 3: three million dollars. So so the book's great whether you're

769
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 3: in nonprofit or we're in business. She has her own

770
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 3: formula being able to how to ask.

771
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 2: For it's just really the book is exactly what you

772
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 2: want to do. How to ask for money sounds just

773
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: like Yeah.

774
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 3: She then started writing because we were chatting with someone

775
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 3: we worked with wealth management, and they said, I don't

776
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 3: like talking about money or asking for money. Well, this

777
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 3: is your job and said, no, you know it's in

778
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 3: most people's top ten years. Okay, she she's that I

779
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 3: love asking for money. So she she put that down

780
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 3: and did her own book, and then she has a.

781
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 5: She has a hug, she who dares, Yeah, she who

782
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 5: thees so tell us about her life story as well,

783
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 5: and then with my book, you know, there's my side

784
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 5: of the story.

785
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 3: I mean that she'll be telling it from from a

786
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 3: partner's perspective undred percent.

787
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: You know, like I was talking to you a free show.

788
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 2: You know, my mom and dad sit behind me on

789
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 2: all these shows because they were the team, right. Dad

790
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: was gone for six months. Mom was home doing a

791
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 2: lot of what dad wanted to be doing. But when

792
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 2: dad came home, Mom was still running the show. You see. Yeah, yeah,

793
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 2: and you got to still like let mom and dad

794
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: kind of like get back together.

795
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's hard. You know a lot of people

796
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 3: because being in the Special Voys is quite selfish. It's

797
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 3: quite selfish because you you leave the family behind, expect

798
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 3: them to carry on. You go do your stuff, and

799
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 3: then you walk back through the door and expect to

800
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 3: pick off where you left off. It doesn't work like that.

801
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 3: You know, there's a you know, it's a lot of

802
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 3: team where it's a lot of effitt and you know

803
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 3: a lot of guys un fortunately when they do finish

804
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 3: their end of the career realize actually them and their

805
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 3: partners not they don't love each other, just can't live

806
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 3: with each other. Yeah. Yeah, so there's yeah, no, it's hard,

807
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: but yeah, you know, the wives are the unsung heroes.

808
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I just want to give them a shout out.

809
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 2: And that's exactly why I coiled her into my conversation

810
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 2: with you, so you can smile just like that. Yeah,

811
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: So thanks to her for kicking your ass.

812
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and she she always challenges me, but she

813
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 3: always you know, you know, it's quite funny. She goes,

814
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 3: but if you can't do it, you can't do it.

815
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 3: And it's like the red rag to the bull. Okay,

816
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 3: so she pushed, Yeah, yeah.

817
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 2: You can't do that. What what do you mean? Yeah, exactly.

818
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 2: I've been learning from a lot of Arnold Schwarzenegger lately.

819
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 2: I've been watching his documentary. He's like, you know, I

820
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 2: just wanted to be Hercules, And so I said, what

821
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 2: do I have to do to be Hercules on this

822
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 2: movie cover? And boo? He really did push himself, yeah,

823
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 2: and manifest himself to be who he is and that

824
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 2: same thing. Yeah, I'm like, I'm just kind of stealing

825
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 2: some of that same mental toughness of like, you know,

826
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: I want to be I'm forty five years old, almost

827
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: forty six into boxing. Yeah, I'm boxing though, and I

828
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 2: like it and I'm liking my shoulders and i like

829
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 2: how I'm feeling and yeah, and I'm just you know,

830
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: just focused on I just want to be a healthy person.

831
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 3: Good. Yeah, no, no, brilliant. Yeah, yeah, I'm the same.

832
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 3: I'm fory six and it's just staying fit and you know,

833
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 3: being active a good inspiration for the advocate. Yeah, you

834
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 3: know for me with the bike ride. With the bike ride,

835
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 3: you know, when Harry and I chatted and we did

836
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 3: a promo video together and then he introduced me to

837
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 3: the Royal Foundation. They were like, you know, what is

838
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 3: it you're trying to promote with his bike ride. So

839
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 3: the money we raised went to eleven mental health charities,

840
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 3: but not just veteran it was postnatal depression, young children,

841
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 3: teenagers of the whole sector. And they said, you know

842
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 3: what is it you're trying to promote and I said, well,

843
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 3: I hadn't really thought about it, and I mean after

844
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 3: I said, well, physical activity helps your mental state, and

845
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 3: they originally they said you can't use that this is

846
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,399
Speaker 3: back in twenty sixteen, I said, well why not, I said,

847
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 3: it's not being scientifically proven. I said, well, I don't

848
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 3: need a scientist to tell me that I feel good.

849
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

850
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 3: So ignored the many and carried on using it, and

851
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 3: now it is recognized.

852
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 2: Now, now it's totally recognized. You know, here in the

853
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 2: US at the Veterans Administration, they're trying to use recreational therapy.

854
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 2: But the patient has to ask for it. The veteran

855
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 2: has to ask for it. It's not quite a brought

856
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: up and they have to be like rated. You know,

857
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: there's a certain up to one hundred percent rating for

858
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: US military personnel. Okay, so if you're like a forty

859
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 2: percent rated, you may not qualify. But I'm just saying

860
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 2: that if you're listening to this right now and you're

861
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 2: going to the VA and you're getting doctor's appointments for

862
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 2: psychological they're trying to offer you benzos and pills, just

863
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 2: ask them if there's recreational therapy available, which could be

864
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 2: snowboying or mountain biking. It can be getting out surfing,

865
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 2: you know, racketball if you ever played racquetball, like getting

866
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: the ball, tennis, all those things are recreational therapy. Going

867
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 2: for a hike, so you can try to get that

868
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 2: through the va here. I just want to put that

869
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 2: out there to my listener. Yeah, recreational therapy. Yeah yeah,

870
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 2: that's that doctorate degree for about thirty more seconds before

871
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 2: it expires. You know. If we're going to follow the internet,

872
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 2: just yeah, go outside, go for a walk, you know,

873
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 2: it feels good. We always always sit around watching folks

874
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,959
Speaker 2: like liked do the record breaker and be like, wow,

875
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 2: what if I could do that? Well, what if? Why

876
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 2: don't you go try? Yeah? You know, yeah, you don't

877
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 2: chase it.

878
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 3: I always say people, anticipation is worse some participation. People

879
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 3: will tell you why they can't do it, or think

880
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 3: about why they can't do but actually, when you do

881
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 3: take that leap or decide to do it, you then

882
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 3: look back and realize it actually wasn't that much.

883
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: No, no. And a lot of folks will sit there

884
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 2: and watch others like work out. They'll see these inspirational

885
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 2: things on their scrolls and they'll sit there and say

886
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 2: I need to, I need you, and then three years

887
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 2: have gone by them, I need to.

888
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, yeah true. And that's why I say

889
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 3: with people speak to me about doing challenges and said,

890
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 3: you know, have you got a date yet? Oh no,

891
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 3: I've got a date. Put the dating and then when

892
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 3: then it's real, tell people you're doing it, then it's real.

893
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 3: Just keep moving to the right.

894
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 2: No, it's serious, it is, It's totally serious. You just

895
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 2: got to keep moving, stay focused, show up to yourself.

896
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 3: Yeah sure, yeah, yeah, because that's the hardest part. Yeah.

897
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, you know, and if you don't want

898
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 2: to go somewhere and you feel people are going to

899
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: stare at you or laugh at you, then you can

900
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 2: just do it in the privacy of your own home.

901
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: Just yeah, no burpies.

902
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you can do it. And that's a great

903
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 3: thing one of the good things about COVID. There wasn't many,

904
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 3: but that was one of the givings about COVID. People

905
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 3: had to improvise. You know, you can go to gym,

906
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 3: do it, do it at home, you know what I mean.

907
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 2: I've got my COVID weights right here.

908
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 3: Yeah. I never laugh at anyone who's doing any sort

909
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 3: of training. I see people all shapes and sizes. Well,

910
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 3: at least they're doing it. I mean I'll never Yeah,

911
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 3: at least that.

912
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 2: You've been doing it since you're sixteen seventeen to be

913
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 2: in your physical shape.

914
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, well that's it. Yeah, and the ship the

915
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 3: way I'm built, I've never used weights before. It's all

916
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 3: body weight because when I was in the military, the

917
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 3: you know, they test you and pull ups, dips, press up,

918
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 3: how fast you can run you're climbing a rope. They

919
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 3: don't test you on how how much can you press

920
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 3: or curl and things like that, and so so for me,

921
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 3: I would always train for what you were going to

922
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 3: get tested on and did it that way and then

923
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 3: managed to get quite big through that, but also finding

924
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 3: the balance that you needed to be able to still

925
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 3: perform or fulfill your role. You know, so whether you're

926
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 3: climbing the side of a ship at night on a

927
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 3: caving ladder, or whether you're climbing the rope on a

928
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 3: helicopter to get out of the jungle.

929
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: You know.

930
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 3: I met some guys in Kosovo from one of the

931
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 3: other nations and they were like Hollywood, you know, they

932
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 3: looked like yeah, they looked the part actually with zero

933
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 3: contribution to the team because they were too big. And

934
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 3: so I was always conscious my training was geared around

935
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 3: that body weight stuff.

936
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 2: Being able to fulfill your role or do you mon

937
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 2: if I ask.

938
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm five to eleven.

939
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 2: That hole when you join the military.

940
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 3: No, actually no, my father actually told me the last

941
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 3: two minutes when I told him I was going to

942
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 3: join the military, he was I was five to seven

943
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 3: and I weighed about sixty seven kilo. You know, I'm

944
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 3: five eleven now in ninety one. So but yeah, I

945
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 3: still hadn't really fully formed. You know. I joined at

946
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 3: the age of seventeen and a half. Still four more inches, yeah, yeah, exactly.

947
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 3: But within about eighteen months, I shot those four inches

948
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 3: and I put on that on that weight. But I

949
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 3: just grew physically, but more important, I grew mentally as well.

950
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 3: The very first course I did, my base training, you

951
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 3: know for the engineers, is like ten weeks. And then

952
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 3: I got to the end of that and I was

953
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 3: like okay. And then the next was the combat engineering,

954
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 3: which is twelve weeks. And combat engineering there was a

955
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 3: lot of bridge building, you know, a lot of heavy

956
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 3: weights and stuff, so that that was naturally building me up.

957
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 3: But then I was like okay. And then I did

958
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 3: the Alarms Commander course and a minute so every time

959
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 3: I then did a course, I was passing, and I

960
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 3: was like, I wasn't just passing, I was either becoming

961
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 3: a top student or up in the top five ten percent,

962
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 3: And so that then started giving me confidence. Then see

963
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 3: what what's next. I never had any aspirations of being

964
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 3: Special Forces at all. It just went one step at

965
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 3: a time, and literally I did every arduous course you

966
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 3: did in the engineers and the only route, the only

967
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 3: course left was tier one, specially.

968
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 2: Because that's the next level to go to because you'd

969
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 2: alread accomplished.

970
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was already Special Forces, So it was like

971
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 3: tier one or don't. But you know, there's some guys

972
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 3: on my course who from a young age I'm talking

973
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 3: six seven, all they ever wanted to be was s

974
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 3: S or SBS and this was their moment and a

975
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 3: lot of them crumbled under pressure. And the ways I

976
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 3: went in with an attitude of I am good enough,

977
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 3: but if I get in, I get in. If I don't,

978
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 3: you know, it's not something that it's been a long

979
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 3: life ambition, and I think that that helps you. Special

980
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 3: Forces soldiers they tape things. They don't tate tape things

981
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 3: two tiers.

982
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 2: And a lot of folks don't realize that the green

983
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 2: beret that you where it goes to the Green Berets

984
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: over here. It wasn't that how it was given to

985
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 2: you know, the s F Green Beret over here. How

986
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: we have the Special Forces.

987
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that, I think, Yeah, I don't really

988
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 3: know the history of it, but I do hear I've

989
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 3: heard of a story of that.

990
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

991
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 3: So I mean it's the same with your Delta Force.

992
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 3: You know, your an old Chuck Norris.

993
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 6: Norris, he came over and spent two years with the

994
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 6: SAS and then in nineteen seventy seven came back and

995
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 6: set up Delt Force and did the selection process from US.

996
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. So there's a lot of origins that come.

997
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 2: From the youth exactly.

998
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 3: But the green Beret for us in the UK, it's

999
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 3: the only coveted beret in the hold of the UK

1000
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 3: Special Forces. So if you're attached to the s E

1001
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 3: S you can get Sandy Berry. If you're attached to

1002
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 3: the Parachute Regiment, you'll get attached to the Free Commander Brigade.

1003
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 3: You only get the green Beret if you've done the Commander.

1004
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 2: So the green Beret does have that significance.

1005
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 3: It has that significance you can only it's the only

1006
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 3: coveted green beret. We have the intelligence cores who have

1007
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 3: a green beret, but it's more of like a snotty

1008
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 3: green than Yeah, and so what is in the SBS

1009
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 3: and the SBS is that coveted greens. So I, although

1010
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 3: I wasn't a raw Mariene, i'd done. The commander.

1011
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 2: Love that, you know, I love that. You know, I'm

1012
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 2: going to be just totally you know greenbery.

1013
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why that's why we say, and that's why

1014
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 3: the Marines and the commandos are so proud of the

1015
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 3: buried back in the UK.

1016
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, me too, me too. I'm in your corner, Bro,

1017
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 2: I think you're fabulous and I'm brad we've had this

1018
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 2: opportunity to talk and just really, you know, the listener

1019
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 2: just wants to hear you talk like this, you know,

1020
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 2: and say, what's up?

1021
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 4: Bro?

1022
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 2: Now, what's your shirt? Say? It says Staccato.

1023
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 3: Staccato is American pistol brand. They do a lot of

1024
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 3: law enforcement based in Texas. Basically the Ferrari of.

1025
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 2: The I'm gonna get totally wrung out for saying their

1026
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 2: name wrong, probably being an American.

1027
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, your listeners will know staccato. So yeah, I'm a

1028
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 3: I'm a brand ambassador for staccato Leopold.

1029
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 2: And okay, well yeah, let's get them put it into

1030
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:56,439
Speaker 2: your you should say that.

1031
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1032
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 2: Are you going to be going to Vegas in January.

1033
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 3: The Shot Show? Yeah, I've been the last two years

1034
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 3: as a guest. I did my I did my book

1035
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 3: signing at the Shot Show last year.

1036
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 2: With you there on Range Day. I'll be there on

1037
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 2: range Day. We'll have to at least and get a

1038
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 2: proper photo.

1039
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 3: Definitely, I'll be I'll be there.

1040
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll be there with Soft Rapp. Yeah, exactly,

1041
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: here we go. No, that's wonderful.

1042
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 3: I'd love to and.

1043
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 2: Say and say I have a spot of tea if

1044
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 2: you still do that, right of course.

1045
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't mind the tea now.

1046
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 2: And yeah I got to. I got to.

1047
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 3: Yeah you guys, you guys threw all the tea in

1048
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 3: the bay.

1049
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. But when I go over there, for some reason,

1050
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: everything still when I go over to England, I feel

1051
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 2: like I'm at home.

1052
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, really really really.

1053
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 2: Because I mean I have that in my DNA. I

1054
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 2: have a lot of British in me that I didn't

1055
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 2: realize till I did this DNA stuff and then uh

1056
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 2: yeah scant and now Norwegian, so Norway, so I'm very wow.

1057
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah. Well we you know, we we live

1058
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 3: in California now and so we you know, we went

1059
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 3: back to UK. It was nice to go back. You know.

1060
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 3: We do love the American American dream. And we we

1061
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 3: actually moved over right in the middle of COVID October

1062
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 3: twenty me and my wife like that, right, yeah, well,

1063
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 3: the world was paused. We just came in.

1064
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 2: And because it's crazy right now with the housing markets

1065
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 2: and everything all, you know, you're over here.

1066
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's everything's unstable, but you know, you sort

1067
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 3: of he sees opportunity, you know, you know, yes, the

1068
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 3: world was a crisis going on, but we just saw

1069
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 3: that importunity and took a back.

1070
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 2: I just I stayed alive. My shops stayed open. We didn't,

1071
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 2: you know, I was waiting for someone to say you

1072
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 2: should close. I'm like, when do I get to go

1073
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 2: home for thirty days? When do I get off? No,

1074
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 2: They're like, no, your your store is stay open because

1075
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 2: they're gun store, air software, war game stores. So it's

1076
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 2: like essential. Wow, only in America.

1077
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, in America.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, listen, do you want to plug your book

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Speaker 2: for me? You have a book, right, yeah, I have.

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Speaker 3: I have a book called Relentless. We I had it.

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Speaker 3: It was launched in the UK originally, and when I

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Speaker 3: came over to America, I went on I went on

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Speaker 3: Jocko Willings podcast. People magazine were doing interviews with me,

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Speaker 3: and it's like, you know, the starts of arrived sort

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Speaker 3: of thing. And my publishers were like, I'd sort of

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Speaker 3: told him about these these marketing opportunities and they weren't

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Speaker 3: really interesting because it had been eighteen months since the

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Speaker 3: book had come out. So my wife be the entrepreneur

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Speaker 3: and the philanthropists. You know, the book hadn't been launched

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Speaker 3: in the US, so we bought the rights from our

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Speaker 3: publisher for USA and Canada, and then we redesigned the

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Speaker 3: book cover. You know, five to eleven did the book

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Speaker 3: cover for US. But then we got influences that the

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Speaker 3: American audience would recognize. So Jocko Admiral mccraven bear grills

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Speaker 3: because the ones that we had in UK people weren't

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Speaker 3: aware of. So we sort of gave it a liquor paint,

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Speaker 3: as we would say, a new cover because the cover

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Speaker 3: you have there with me holding the minime with all

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Speaker 3: the I mean surround my neck. You know, you won't

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Speaker 3: get away with that in the UK.

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Speaker 2: You have to have a little bit of approach.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a bit more different. And I mean also people

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Speaker 3: weren't buying the book. People weren't buying the book in

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Speaker 3: the UK from the side. Community look like a Special

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Speaker 3: Forces book. So we you know, so we had we

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Speaker 3: watermarked the bike on the on the front cover of

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Speaker 3: this one as well. Because there's a huge community there

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Speaker 3: of cycles, it makes.

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Speaker 2: Sense you can almost have like a reflecting cover where

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Speaker 2: it's like one of them is you as a cycle,

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Speaker 2: and when the sun hits it, it's like you with

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Speaker 2: your gear and you're just like you can like depose

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Speaker 2: it in the middle and get half of you on

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Speaker 2: a bike with you.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So the but Relentless is almost like three. There's three

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Speaker 3: main phases as my childhood in the military. I do

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Speaker 3: stop on selection, you know, I don't go into the

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Speaker 3: Special Forces stuff just purely because trying to protect my

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Speaker 3: brethren there. And then the private security stuff. You know,

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Speaker 3: actually it was more I did more sensitive jobs as

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Speaker 3: a private security guy than I did in the Special Forces.

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Speaker 3: You know, we touched on someone on here, you know,

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Speaker 3: single handedly evacuating embassies. But you know there's other stories

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Speaker 3: in there which are great. And then the final third

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Speaker 3: is the bike ride. Everything I'd learned from the first

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Speaker 3: to into the bight.

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Speaker 2: Rides, Well, Dean, I think that you're awesome and I

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Speaker 2: think you're you're fabulous and all of those wonderful words

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Speaker 2: that I could say. I'm happy that you guys wanted

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Speaker 2: to come on the show and and talk about life

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Speaker 2: and you know, in your book and just pushing forward

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Speaker 2: and persevering. Uh. You know, we all have lived through

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Speaker 2: COVID and we've all seen the world shut down, and

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Speaker 2: it's time to just restart our engines and get going. Dad.

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Speaker 3: No, yeah, exactly. And I look forward to seeing you

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Speaker 3: all right.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like a plan. And so I'm gonna let

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Speaker 2: you go back to your busy day today. And I

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Speaker 2: appreciate you for this last hour. And I just want

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Speaker 2: to give a shout out again to Brandon Webb for

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Speaker 2: having me as the ambassador for soft Rep and letting

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Speaker 2: me do these podcasts. I really appreciated the opportunity to

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Speaker 2: talk to guys like Dean and I really appreciate the

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Speaker 2: sps and the sas and all the UK brotherre and

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Speaker 2: over there that have that are our allies and all

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Speaker 2: allies around the world. We thank you so from me

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Speaker 2: and I'll be haalf of Dean. I'm saying peace and

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Speaker 2: SOFTWAREP radio.

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