1 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: As a guide and hunter. I've spent thousands of days 2 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: in the field. This show is about translating my hard 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: won experiences into tips and tactics they'll get you closer 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: to your ultimate goal, success in the field. I'm Remy Warren. 5 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: This is cutting the distance. Everything is right as you 6 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: planned it. You executed this stock to the t, you 7 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: snuck in on a bedded mule deer, and now you're 8 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: just waiting for your shot. Right now, this is that 9 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: point where your mind starts to go to visualizing success mode. 10 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: You've pretty much already taken a picture of this deer. 11 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: You're visualizing packing that out, maybe cooking some steaks over 12 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: the open fire that night. And as soon as you 13 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: think everything is good, the wind swirls or switches, the 14 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: buck catches your scent and just bolts off. I would 15 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: probably say that if I think back to blown stocks, 16 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 1: no matter what I'm hunting, or blown opportunities, I would 17 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: probably wager that of blown stocks or opportunities are due 18 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: to shifts in the wind. Now, wind can make or 19 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: break your hunt. It can be your best friend or 20 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: your worst enemy. And if it's not on your side, 21 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 1: you probably aren't going to be successful because it's very 22 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: hard to fool the nose of an elk or deer 23 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: or other big game animal. So this week I'm gonna 24 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: help you understand how to read and predict the wind, 25 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: especially in the mountains, and then get a good grasp 26 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,919 Speaker 1: on thermals. I also want to go over the idea 27 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: of scent control and how to execute proper stocks or 28 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: even tree stand locations and setups based on your knowledge 29 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: of thermals and wind currents. But first I'm gonna share 30 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: a high country mule your hunt with a bow where 31 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: the thermals caught me once but not twice. It's early 32 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: August and Central Nevada opening weekend of mule deer season. 33 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: And now the area we're hunting is high mountain, pretty 34 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: high altitude. Some of the spots were at or over 35 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: ten thousand feet in elevation, so it's it's pretty big 36 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,399 Speaker 1: mountain hunting. Now, the dear bachelord up this time of year. 37 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: They're in velvet and the days can really heat up. 38 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: But in the high desert, especially at that altitude, you 39 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: might be talking about near freezing temperatures at night or 40 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: high thirties mid forties at night, and then can be 41 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: a hundred degrees in the middle of the day, so 42 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: huge temperature swings. Now this time of year we also 43 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: get pretty erratic wind currents, some lightning storms, and just 44 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 1: some pretty crazy weather. On this particular hunt, a friend 45 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: of mine, Ben, came over from Australia and it was 46 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: his first mule deer hunt. So my plan was to 47 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: kind of be his eye is in ears and do 48 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: the scouting and the glassing until he got a buck, 49 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: and then I would hunt for myself. He made some 50 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: pretty good stocks on deer the first part of the 51 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: first day. We got out there early, did some scouting, 52 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: located quite a few bachelor groups a deer, and he 53 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 1: was just looking for a nice, mature, representative mule deer. 54 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 1: I think it was maybe the second or third day, 55 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: somewhere in there he ended up closing in on a 56 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: buck in the evening, making a great shot and taking 57 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: his first mule deer. So now it's pretty much my turn. 58 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm up to bat and I decided the first day 59 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: that I was hunting, I kind of was figuring, Okay, 60 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: I'll maybe go after the same group of deer that 61 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: he got his out of, because they were still kind 62 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: of hanging out in that same location where we were camped. 63 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: The deer were pretty much at the top of the mountain. 64 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: It was a pretty pretty solid climb up there, pretty 65 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: good elevation, so I started off midday. I had seen 66 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: where the bucks went that morning and just decided, Okay, 67 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get up there midday and try to get 68 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: into position. So I made my stock, but unfortunately, the 69 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: wind was really weird and just blowing the wrong direction 70 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: from the way that I started hiking up the mountain 71 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: in the valley. It was one thing, but when I 72 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: started getting up towards the top, the wind and kind 73 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: of shifted, so I dropped over the backside down the 74 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: kind of mountain, a lot of extra leg work to 75 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: try to circle around the deer and get the wind right. 76 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: As I climbed back over the top, the winds are 77 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: still kind of acting a little strange, but I've got 78 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: good wind in my favor. The deer are up above 79 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: me and the wind is kind of blowing pretty much 80 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: up the mountain, so I decided to come in from 81 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: one side and parallel into the deer, the best option 82 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: for the wind plus the cover that I had, so 83 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: I started crawling in, crawling in there, all bedded well. 84 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: The crawl is taking a while. There's very very little cover, 85 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: so I have to move slow. I have to position 86 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: myself so none of the deer can see me. There's 87 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: probably like eight or ten bucks in the group at 88 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: this time, including one or two really nice bucks that 89 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: I was targeting, and then a couple other smaller bucks that, 90 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: you know, if they were in range, I'm not sure 91 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: if I would have taken or not, but I figured, Okay, 92 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna try to get in there as close 93 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: as I can and then see what happens. Well, as 94 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: the day drug on, I kind of had to keep 95 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: changing my stock based on the wind. I finally got 96 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: to within position, and then the deer decided to start 97 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: getting up and feeding. The good thing was is I 98 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: was where I kind of expected them to feed too, 99 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: So I'm set up, crawled in, laying there, and the 100 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: deer start moving my way. At this point, I'm just like, okay, 101 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: I stalked in. I'd say I think I got to 102 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: about a hundred and fifty hundred and sixty yards. Now 103 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: I kind of ran out of cover, but the wind 104 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: was still good and they were feeding below me. The 105 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: only problem was I knew time was not with me 106 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: because this is in the afternoon now, and I knew 107 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: as soon as that sun started to go away, it 108 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: would switch the thermals and my wind would start going downhill. 109 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: So I just needed them to feed up above me 110 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: the whole time. Okay, stay please stay high, Please stay high. 111 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: A couple of the smaller bucks. There's still nice bucks. 112 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: But when you're in a group with some really good bucks, 113 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I can wait for these better bucks. 114 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: I think everything's gonna be fine. So actually, some of 115 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: the smaller bucks started feeding above me, which was perfect, 116 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: but then two of the larger bucks started feeding down. 117 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: At this point, I'm like, man, I'm gonna get busted 118 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: here because they're kind of starting to surround me. So 119 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: I decided to just hold off and wait because the 120 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: wind was still good. The deer above me were kind 121 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: of more in front of me, and the wind wasn't 122 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: going to them, So I was just waiting, waiting, And 123 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: now the sun had dipped, like to the point where 124 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: the thermals were about to switch. The bigger buck was 125 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: still ninety yards out feeding, but he was coming my direction. 126 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: He started moving and he got right into a position 127 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: where I'm like, okay, I arranged him. He was sixty yards, 128 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: but he had some tall stage there. I just needed 129 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: him to take a few more steps out he would 130 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: be pretty much in the open. The direction he's going, 131 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: he's gonna be about forty five yards, I thought, perfect, 132 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: that would be my shot. So he's moving toward it, 133 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: moving toward it. I'm like, oh yeah, this is great, 134 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: And then I felt it. The thermals switched went right 135 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: down to that buck. I mean, I was aaro knocked, 136 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: sitting in position, ready to draw back, just waiting for 137 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: him to take a couple more steps. As I felt 138 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: those thermals switch, I knew it was over. That one 139 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: buck caught my scent, ran off. All the other deer 140 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: watched him, and then they ran to him. That deer 141 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: was snorting, stomping, looking my direction. I think the other 142 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: deer never winded me. But as those thermals changed, I 143 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: got busted because that deer went below me. The thermals 144 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: dropped and ruined what was an all day stock and 145 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: and seconds away from a sure deal. Now it's fast 146 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: forward to the next morning. I decided to hunt a 147 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: little bit different area give those bucks a break, and 148 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: I'm glassing as the sun's coming up. I gotta think 149 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: about it. I was actually looking, I guess south, and 150 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: there was a patch of aspens in this thick sage 151 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: pocket on this ridge, and I saw a nice four 152 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: by four buck, along with maybe two or three other bucks. 153 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: So I'm watching them. I'm thinking, Okay, I'm gonna just 154 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: play this safe. The thermals busted me the night before, 155 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: so I'm just gonna wait until they get into a 156 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: position where I can get constant wind and have the 157 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: advantage for a longer amount of time. So at this point, 158 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: because they were on the shaded side of the hill, 159 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: if I were to come in from the top, the 160 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: wind would be blowing down to them because that was 161 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: pretty much the way that the prevailing wind was going. 162 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: And then if I was to sneak in from the bottom, 163 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: then as soon as the sun hit it that my 164 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: scent would go up to the deer and blow it. 165 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: So instead of rushing in, even though they were in 166 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: a good spot where I had good cover and could 167 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: probably get to them, they happened to be below this 168 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: big rock that I thought would be perfect, I decided 169 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: to wait and watch now. The deer bedded, and I thought, okay, 170 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: this is good it It just was not stable enough winds, 171 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: and I knew that thermal shifts were coming, so I 172 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: just waited. Sure enough, the deer ended up getting up 173 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: and walking up to the top of the ridge and 174 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 1: then down as soon as they crusted over the top. 175 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: I knew this was my play because the sun was 176 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: hitting that south face and the thermals would be going up. 177 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: Plus the prevailing wind was coming up from the other direction, 178 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: so even as I'm walking in, I would have good wind, 179 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: and then if they were below me, the thermals would 180 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 1: be perfect. I pretty much tried to run over there 181 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: to get over there as fast as I could so 182 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: I could catch them just over the edge or near 183 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: the top so they didn't get too far out of 184 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: where I was going. I also knew that there were 185 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: some trees on the other side, but I was hoping 186 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: that they would continue kind of feeding instead of just 187 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: going straight to those trees to bed. So I did 188 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: what I would consider just the running gun method of 189 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: get to where they were as fast as possible, which 190 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: I think is about a mile or so away, and 191 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: then once you get there, take off your pack, slow 192 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: everything down and hunt and look and and be smart 193 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: about it. I get to that spot as I peek over, 194 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: I just start slowly glassing. I get down to where 195 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: they had crossed, and I didn't see him, So I thought, okay, 196 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: you know, I did see their tracks, and they were 197 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: kind of angling around, and there was just this one 198 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: spot I knew I couldn't see, which is this little 199 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: band of rocks that I couldn't see over, So I thought, 200 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: this has to be where they're at. I slowly crept 201 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: up to that area to where the rocks were, just 202 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: peeking and doing what I call scrolling, whereas his new 203 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: terrain is given to me, just looking with my eyes 204 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: and binoculars, and sure enough spot the antler tips of 205 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: a buck down below. Perfect take off my shoes, actually 206 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: set up my camera to take like time lap stills 207 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: of the stock, and I just crept down to the edge. 208 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: Now the buck was feeding with his head down, so 209 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: I got right to the edge, raised up when his 210 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: head was out of sight thirty yards just good like 211 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: the sun was just starting to hit this hill and 212 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: it was just almost like a burst of in moving 213 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: up towards me. I got down knocked my arrow, drew 214 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: back as I was kneeling, slowly, stood up, bent down 215 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 1: at the waist, shot and the deer is I think 216 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: thirty five yards right off the ledge of the rock 217 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: rim I hit the buck perfect. He wheeled around, crashed 218 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: down the mountain, maybe thretty yards. I tried radioing my 219 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: buddy Ben to come help me pack out, and then 220 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: worked my way down to the buck to get him 221 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: cut up and get all the meat cooled down before 222 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: the sun got too hot, because it was gonna be 223 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: on the sunny side of the hill. And it was 224 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: just pretty awesome because the day before the thermals had 225 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: busted me. But by being patient and just knowing what 226 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: was going to happen if I stalked too early, I 227 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: was able to capitalize and let the thermals that day 228 00:11:48,080 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: work in my favor and lead to some success. In 229 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: order to be a successful hunter, you have to trick 230 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: three things on the animal that you're hunting. Their eyes, 231 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: their ears, and most importantly, their nose. Animals can smell 232 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: so much better than we can. I mean it's in 233 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: the thousands of times better. They can smell us from 234 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: longer distances, from lighter wind drifts, and what it is 235 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: is it's probably most animals main defense. Now, many animals 236 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: have some kind of weakness. Antelope, you know, they don't 237 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: hear as well, but they see really good. Elk, they 238 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: also don't really mind noise so much, but their eyesight 239 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: is better than their hearing. Mule deer, they hear and 240 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: see really well. But all the animals can smell really well, 241 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: and you can trick the eyes, you can trick the ears, 242 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: but you cannot trick their nose. In most instances. The 243 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: only way to trick their nose is to not be 244 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: in a position and where your scent can reach them. 245 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: So you can trick the nose, but you have to 246 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: use the wind to trick their noses. So this week 247 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna just call this Understanding Wind one oh one, 248 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about all the facets of 249 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: how wind moves and things to think about in your stocks, 250 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: and then that way you can apply that to the 251 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 1: situations that you have, because it is the thing that's 252 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: going to get you busted more often than not. So 253 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna start out really basic. I first want to 254 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: just describe some of the terminology that I'm going to 255 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: be using, So that way, if you have no clue 256 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: about understanding wind, you can at least build this picture 257 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: out based on kind of my definitions. They probably are 258 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: very similar to dictionary definitions, but these are just gonna 259 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: be like terms that I use and what I'm meaning 260 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: by that. So let's start with prevailing wind. So that's 261 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: gonna be the prevailing wind is just the wind direction 262 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: that's called for, the predominant direction that the wind has 263 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: come from. Now, when we talk about wind, you might 264 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: hear the term like northeastern or northern northerly. So what 265 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: we're talking about is it's the direction of wind. Is 266 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: always where the wind is coming from. So if you 267 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: were to face the wind blowing in your face, that's 268 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: the direction the wind is coming from. It's not the 269 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: direction that it's blowing too. So, uh, A north wind 270 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: is if you're turned your body is facing north and 271 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: northwest wind your body is facing northwest. A south wind 272 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: your body is facing south. Now, that's the easiest way 273 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: to think about it, and I know some people get confused. 274 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: They might hear a southern wind and thinking, oh, it's 275 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: blowing towards the south. Well it's it is, But a 276 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: southern wind is blowing from the south to the north, 277 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: if that makes sense. So then we've got wind speed 278 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: in there, so that's the average speed in which the 279 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: wind is blowing. So you might hear a five mile 280 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: per hour wind, so that's the average over a certain 281 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: amount of time that the winds blowing. Then you have gusts, 282 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: so that's when the wind a short first or a 283 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: max speed of the wind. So wind might be blowing 284 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: it four miles an hour and then gusting it eleven um. 285 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: Now it might be gusting and not really have gusts, 286 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: So it also kind of tells you how turbulent the 287 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: wind is as well. It might be blowing fifteen and 288 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: gusting up to sixties. So that's very erratic wind speeds 289 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: and very more more violent wind patterns. Those are often 290 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: attributed to storm fronts and things moving in. Then we 291 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: have thermals. Now, thermals are huge um as far as 292 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: understanding for mountain hunting and even tree stand hunting and 293 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: other types of hunting, because it's pretty easy to understand 294 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: the wind it's blowing, it's moving a certain direction, but 295 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: your scent can also be affected drastically, and the wind 296 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: can also be affected drastically by a thermal. So thermal 297 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: is just the rising current of warm air. So as 298 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: airs heated, it rises, as it's cooled, it drops, and 299 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: so we'll get a little bit more into that, but 300 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: that's just the understanding of a thermal. We're just talking 301 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: about the rising current of warm air or the switching 302 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: of air temperatures. And if I say swirling wind, this 303 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: is when it seems to whirl around in many directions 304 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: or changing wind. It's it's where there's a sharp change 305 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: in the prevailing wind or the direction that the wind's going, 306 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: or it could even be there might be a strong 307 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: prevailing wind, but in a certain area the wind swirls 308 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: where it it doubles back on itself. You might the 309 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: wind might be blowing from the north, but all of 310 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: a sudden, you get into an area and the wind swirls, 311 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: and you've got your your current, your scent coming back 312 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: all different directions. And then we have also jet streams, 313 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: which don't necessarily affect what we're talking about as much, 314 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: but that's just high upper atmosphere fast cold air currents. 315 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: So when you're you can kind of see that sometimes 316 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: when you're out hunting, where you look up high in 317 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: the sky and the clouds are moving one way, and 318 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: then down below where you're at, the clouds are moving 319 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: off opposite directions. So that's the jet streams going one way, 320 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: but then the lower air current is going a different direction. 321 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: To fully understand how wind moves, it's a thing of 322 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: fluid dynamics. So if we're talking about it, wind moves 323 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: essentially like water. It's it's a fluid. That's why we 324 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: talk about wind in currents the same with water. Water 325 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: moves and currents. Electricity also moves in currents, but wind 326 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: and water have effects like terrain affects. Wind and water 327 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 1: very very similarly. So you're prevailing wind would be like 328 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: a river flowing in a certain direction. Now, I think 329 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: the best way to understand and describe how wind moves 330 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: because you can't I mean wind, you can't see wind. 331 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: You can see the effects of wind, but you can't 332 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: actually see wind. However, you can see water and you 333 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: can see the effects in water. So for me, the 334 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: best way that I describe wind currents and the way 335 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: that it's affected by topography in the mountain is think 336 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: of it like a stream. The flow or current of 337 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 1: the river would be the prevailing wind or the current 338 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: of the air movement. Now, I'm really big into fly fishing. 339 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: I've fly fish to my entire life, and so I'm very, 340 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: very familiar with the way water moves in a river. Now, 341 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: if you aren't, it's familiar with it. If you just 342 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: go to a river and look at the way the 343 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: water moves, it will help you understand the way that 344 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: wind moves through the mountains. Let's just start by understanding 345 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: the way water and wind both move and talk about 346 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: some of the functions and things that might get you 347 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 1: if you're trying to plan based according to the wind. 348 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: Let's think about a river first. Now you've got your 349 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: your water flowing in one direction, but what else is there? 350 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: So there's maybe some rocks in this river. So we 351 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: aren't even gonna go with a fast river. We'll just 352 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: go with like a fairly slow moving trout stream, pretty level, 353 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: not a lot of drop. And then in this trout 354 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 1: stream there's a you large boulders and some banks, and 355 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: then there's some different hype boulders. So there's some bowlders 356 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: that are sticking up out of the water, and then 357 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: there's some bowlers underneath the water. So let's think about 358 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: how the water is reacting to these boulders. So what 359 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: are some things that we're gonna see, Well, we're gonna 360 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: see what are called eddies. Now, if you're fishermen, or 361 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: especially if your fish dry flies, you're really familiar with 362 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: eddies because what that is is the river's moving one way, 363 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: but in an eddy, the current circles and actually goes 364 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: back upstream the opposite direction. So if I'm throwing a 365 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: fly into a cut bank, i might be in the 366 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: current and my fly line is gonna float down, but 367 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: my fly sitting in the eddy will be going upstream 368 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: or the opposite direction. The water is circulating in these eddies. 369 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: Same if you're rafting, if you ever gone in an 370 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: inner tube or whatever, and you hit this spot where 371 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: you kind of aren't going downstream and you aren't going upstream, 372 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: you're just holding You're holding in an eddy. So what's 373 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: happening is as the water moves around the object, it 374 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 1: kind of creates this turbulence. Now, in that turbulence downstream 375 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: because of the currents moving, if you kind of really 376 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: think about it to look at it, it it almost creates 377 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: like a V shape where the water goes around the rock, 378 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: and then that turbulent current pushes down until it hits 379 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: again below it at some point, and then along that 380 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: turbulent area that causes the water to swirl back, and 381 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 1: as it swirls back, it pushes back up against itself 382 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: and then toward whatever was creating the eddies. So it's 383 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: actually causing the water currents to go back against the 384 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: grain of the main current, the main flow of the river. 385 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 1: Now you can also think about maybe there's something in 386 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: the river so like that happens. Say you can see 387 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: that behind a big rock. You can also call it, 388 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: like um, a pillow in a bed. If there's a 389 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: rock that's just where the water is just going over 390 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: the top, So it's just pouring over the top of 391 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: the rock, it's hitting down right below, and then there's 392 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 1: that smooth water behind the rock where the top might 393 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: be real turbulent. It's creating a pillow, but then after 394 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: that it's just smooth water, and on the edges is 395 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: turbulent as well. Now think also about something where there's 396 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: a deeper rock and the water is going over it 397 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: and it creates like a wave that pushes the water 398 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: up and then back down but it's not necessarily turbulent. 399 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: It's just changing the flow of that river instead of 400 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: just being flat and smooth, it's creating a wave in 401 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 1: the river itself. So now let's translate that to the 402 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: mountains and understanding the wind. When I think about planning 403 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: a stock or thinking about what the wind is going 404 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: to be doing, where I like to kind of step 405 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: back and look at the mountains and the topography and 406 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: then visualize, now, what would happen if there's a massive 407 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: flood like the direction that the wind's coming. What if 408 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: we just pushed billions and trillions of gallons of water 409 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: through this mountain like a flash flood, what would happen? 410 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: The topography of the earth would act very similar to 411 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: rocks in the stream. So you're gonna have your main 412 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: current one way, but over each area of topography, you're 413 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: gonna get variations in that current. Things are going to happen. 414 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: On the edges, you're gonna get more turbulent, possibly swirling winds, 415 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: And then below that bed or pillow in the slack 416 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: of that area, you're gonna get smoother water. Now in 417 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 1: um valleys and canyons, you're gonna get faster currents, but 418 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: on the top of as plateaus drop off, it might 419 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: create that wave effect where it goes up a little 420 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: bit over a rise and then back down. So you 421 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: have to kind of really just visualize it as the 422 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: topography is very similar to the rocks in the stream, 423 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: and that's how it's going to affect the wind. Now, 424 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: I say that to say when you're hunting, it's really 425 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: good to understand where wind might swirl based on the 426 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: type of setup that you're gonna have, but you also 427 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: really just need to key in on the types of 428 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: um topography that around, but really keeping the wind in 429 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: your face and planning your stock towards the prevailing wind. 430 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: On days where there's very little wind, the winds change 431 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: a lot, and you're gonna notice that there's a little 432 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: more swirl and a little more change in those areas 433 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: that cause turbulent winds. Or even if you have good wind, 434 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: there's places where you can sneak up and the wind 435 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: is gonna be swirling or a little less consistent, like 436 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: going over ridges around the where that wind would be 437 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: turbulent blowing around the mountain, kind of wrapping around the mountain, 438 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: so it's blowing one direction you think it's good, but 439 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: as you turn the corner, the winds kind of wrapping 440 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: around that formation of the mountain, causing swirls in the wind. 441 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: So your wind might be coming back the wrong direction 442 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: from the prevailing winds. And I hope that that makes sense. 443 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: But if you if you want to understand it more literally, 444 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: just go to creeks and rivers and just watch the 445 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: way that the water moves and then think about that 446 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 1: when you're out there as you see winds, you know, 447 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: kind of make mental notes of that stream analogy, and 448 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: then apply it to places where you find some more 449 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: swirling winds, and you'll start to pick up places that 450 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: are more turbulent for the wind depending on the wind direction. 451 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: Now we're gonna talk about thermals. So thermals are extremely important, 452 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: and I think that people know about thermals, but I 453 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: don't think that everybody fully understands the importance or impact 454 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 1: that thermals play. The times of animals move most are 455 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: mornings and evenings, so that's the time that you're probably 456 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: spotting them, the time that you might be making most 457 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: of your plays, or mornings and evenings, and that's the 458 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: time that the wind is most likely to change. However, 459 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: you can predict to the change if you have a 460 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: really good understanding of thermals. So here's how thermals work. 461 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: Let's start in the morning. It's dark, the temperatures have dropped. 462 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: It's always colder at night because there's no sun out. Now, 463 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: as the sun comes up, you've got your prevailing wind, 464 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: which will be going one direction, whatever direction. Let's say 465 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: it's coming from the north, Okay. So we've got our wind, 466 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: and it's just a light wind. It's not it's just 467 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: a light breeze coming from the north. So if I 468 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 1: was to hunt starting out in the morning, I would 469 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: want to be walking from south to north. That way, 470 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: my face is in the wind. So here's the other 471 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: thing that we have to think about. Is this thermal Now, 472 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: as the sun rises in the east, okay, it's gonna 473 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 1: start heating up the ground. As it heats up the ground, 474 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: we're creating this air change. So hot air rises just 475 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: like a hot air balloon. If you if you lit 476 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: a fire under a balloon, that balloon shoots up into 477 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 1: the sky. The same thing that eagles soar on or 478 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: or glider planes stay in the air, is there riding 479 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: thermals or rising temperatures of heat in the air. The 480 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: same thing happens every day when you're out hunting, and 481 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: it happens where it can actually change not only the 482 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: prevailing wind. It doesn't necessarily change the prevailing wind, but 483 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: it changes the direction of your immediate where you're at. 484 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: So as the sun heats up, now the thermal start 485 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: to rise. What that causes, it causes you're sent to 486 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: draw up the hills with the heat. Now, a thermal 487 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: can be good and it can be bad in certain instances. 488 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: Once it heats up to a certain point, if there's 489 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: very little prevailing wind, it might just draw your sense 490 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: straight up into the sky, in which case it really 491 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 1: helps you and gives you an added benefit. Now, the 492 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: opposite thing happens in the evening. As the temperature starts 493 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 1: to cool, then the thermal start to fall. The cool 494 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: air starts filling back in after the heat of the day, 495 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: and that draws your scent downhill. It draws it downhill 496 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: or down valley. Now, in valleys, they're actually more susceptible 497 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:59,479 Speaker 1: to temperature changes, so they're actually affected more drastically by thermal. 498 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: So the therm will may overpower the prevailing wind at 499 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: any given time. What this causes. It causes struggle in 500 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: the air currents, It causes turbulence in the air. It 501 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: causes swirling winds and unpredictability. Now, the time that the 502 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: thermals change and the time that where that your scent 503 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: will go kind of depends on the day, the temperature, 504 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: a lot of different things. It could be cloudy one 505 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: day and change the time. You might have more time 506 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: to beat the thermals than you do the next day 507 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 1: when it's sunny out, so as the hill heats up, 508 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: you also have to think about certain faces are going 509 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: to get sun before others, so on those ones your 510 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: scent might be going up. But now on the opposite 511 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: side of that, even in the morning, as it's still cool, 512 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: your scent or the thermal will be drawing down those 513 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: cool canyons, So it might be rising on one side 514 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: but pulling down another. This is something extremely important to 515 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: think about because there's so many times where I'll be 516 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: planning a stock or trying to get into position in 517 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: the morning, and if I go on one side of 518 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: the hill, it's no good. But if I drop around 519 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: the other side, I can kind of hedge my bets 520 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: and hope that the thermal will switch on that side later, 521 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: allowing me to maybe get into a position or to 522 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: get into a better spot for later on. And when 523 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about you know, if you're thinking about the 524 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: way animals operate, you might kind of see some patterns 525 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: of it. Seems like elk, especially dear in the morning, 526 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: they might be in one spot on the mountain and 527 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: then they you'll see that they move up in the morning, 528 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 1: and then they kind of move down in the evening. Well, 529 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: you think to yourself, oh, that's really simple. They go 530 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: with the thermals, So I should be fine. If I 531 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: just get above them in the morning, I'll be good 532 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: because I'll be moving up, and if I get blow 533 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: them in the evening, they'll be moving down. So theoretically 534 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: that sounds great, yes, But here's what is generally happening 535 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: that I found is that in the morning, before the 536 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: thermal switch, the way is often going down because it's 537 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: still that cold there. So what's happening is you would 538 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: get above them, your scent would be going to them, 539 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: and then the thermal switch. So what they're doing is 540 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: they're actually moving up generally before the thermal switch, so 541 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: you'd be below them trying to catch up, and then 542 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: your thermal switch and then move up to them. So 543 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: it really puts you in a bad position. Either way, 544 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: You're racing against the clock, which isn't very predictable. So 545 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: what I like to do is I like to try 546 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: to anticipate where the thermals are, play the prevailing wind, 547 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: and then know that you have a limited amount of 548 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: time on either side for it to rise and fall, 549 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: whether it's morning or evening. When you're planning a stock 550 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: or an ambush or an execution of getting in close 551 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: to an animal, you have to really factor in and 552 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: pay attention to. Okay, in your area, where's the sun 553 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: gonna hit, when's that thermal gonna change? Where can you 554 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: go to get away from that thermal? Is there a 555 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: way you can stock where you'll stay, keep the prevailing 556 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: wind in your face, and then when the thermal changes, 557 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: it's not gonna disrup up your stock. Now might mean 558 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: that you have to wait until the winds get more 559 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: stable later in the day. Midday they're actually the most stable. 560 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: The thermals get to a certain point, the ground might 561 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,239 Speaker 1: be heating it at regular rate. You know, it just 562 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: depends on where you're at and the type of whether 563 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: you're encountering, but it's probably most stable in the middle 564 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: of the day. You just have to have a scenario 565 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: where you can plan that stock in the middle of 566 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: the day, which isn't always the case because they might 567 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: go into cover, they might go into timber, you might 568 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: not have as many options, especially with elk, you know, 569 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: you might they might be calling and active in the 570 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: morning and then shut up. So you really have to 571 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: just factor in what are the thermals gonna do, when 572 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: are they going to switch, what's the prevailing wind gonna do, 573 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: and where areas that I should avoid if I can, 574 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: because I'm going to get disturbances and air based on 575 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: the current and the topography. It's a lot, but that's 576 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: if you just start thinking about it critically like that, 577 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: you're really gonna start understanding it and you'll understand it 578 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: more when you have that in your mind and you're 579 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: out in the field paying atten chinto that. So now 580 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: let's throw that into the hunting application. When I am 581 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: out in the field, one thing I am always doing 582 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: is I am constantly checking the wind. Do you know 583 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: I think checking the wind is like you know, you 584 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: can lick your fingers stick it up in the air. 585 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: The cool side is the direction that the winds coming from. Well, 586 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: that does tell you where the wind's coming from. I 587 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: like to try to understand both the thermals the wind 588 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: direction and then areas of turbulent wind visually. So here's 589 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: some things that I carry to check the wind. I 590 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: always have a lighter in my pocket, like just a 591 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: standard bick lighter or whatever. One of the reasons for 592 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: that is, I mean, if I'm ever off or separated 593 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: from my pack and other things, I can start a 594 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: fire and I have firestarter on me. But I use 595 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: it probably more often than not to check the wind, 596 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: especially in the mornings and evenings when I'm moving in 597 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: before daylight. I can use the lighter to really gauge 598 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: which way the wind's going and how erratic the wind is. 599 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: You know, in the night, when you can't really see 600 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: anything else. It's a great indicator for wind direction because 601 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: I try to I don't want to blow things out 602 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: before the game's even started, before I can even see. Now, 603 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: as I'm moving, people that hunt with me, you're like, wow, 604 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: you are I mean, I'm I'm checking the wind like constantly, 605 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: So you think, well, what tools do I use to 606 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: check the wind? For the most part me as I'm walking, 607 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: I know certain pieces of certain types of grass and 608 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: other things that are great indicators of the wind. So 609 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: I'm kind of like pulling things off, whether it be 610 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: the tops of some grasses, uh, some grass itself, like 611 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: constantly as I'm walking, moving and dropping and just seeing 612 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: how the winds are moving, almost constantly. Now. The other 613 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: thing that I like to carry is just like a 614 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: puffer bottle, which is a wind checking device that's got 615 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: like baby powder in it or something. They've got all 616 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: different ones. I've made my own with just like baby powder, 617 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: talcum powder kind of stuff. It's a little bit better 618 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: than the grass, but I use the grass more regularly, 619 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: or even just like picking up dirt and letting it 620 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: fall and watching it. It's just the powder is a 621 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: little bit lighter, but it's in limited supply, like you 622 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: can't just be using it all the time. So as 623 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: I'm moving, walking, whatever, if I see something, I'm checking 624 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: the wind. Before I even see something, I'm checking the wind. 625 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: I'm always checking the wind. I'm constantly cognizant of what 626 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: the wind is doing. How it's moving, and if you're 627 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: constantly getting those data inputs over the years, you're going 628 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: to develop like this is just this innate sense to 629 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: understand wind, wind movements, wind directions, and thermals. But it 630 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: takes years of doing that. So one habit you want 631 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: to get into is just checking the wind. And I 632 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: think when people hunt with me, they that's one thing 633 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: that they pick up right away is just how often 634 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: that I'm like checking what's going on with the wind, 635 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: because it is the thing that will bust you. And 636 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: it's the hardest thing to predict. Like you can really 637 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: understand wind currents and you can still get swirls in 638 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: the wind, erratic chin changes. It's something that you can't control. 639 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: But having a vast understanding of it and then really 640 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: constantly not doing something stupid when you can make a 641 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: better play is gonna tip the scale into your favor. Now. 642 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: The third thing that I like to do, um, so 643 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: I've got the puff bottle. And the good thing about 644 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: the puff bottle is that that powder is lighter than 645 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: grass or dirt that you're using. So what it does 646 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: is it kind of allows you to see the thermals 647 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: as well. If that smoke kind of rises, then you've 648 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,879 Speaker 1: got an up thermal. If it starts to drop, or 649 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: if that smoke starts to spin, you can kind of 650 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: see that, Okay, the winds are changing. Now. The third 651 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: thing that I like to do is I'll keep like 652 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: a feather in my pocket and I'll pluck like a 653 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: few pieces of the down of the feather off and 654 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: let it go in the wind. Because if there's a 655 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: really good up thermal, it floats, and you can watch 656 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: the way that the current in that wind moves over 657 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: a longer distance than the smoke or the grass or 658 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: anything else, especially in lighter winds. So what that does 659 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: is you'll see in the mornings when you do that, 660 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: as the thermal is going up, drop that feather and 661 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: it almost shoots up into the sky. It goes up 662 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: to a knob, and then instead of going over the hill, 663 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: it goes around the side of the hill. So you think, okay, 664 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 1: the sides are going to be more turbulent, because that's 665 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: the way that my sense going. But if I walk 666 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 1: this direction, okay, my sense tracking that path. So what 667 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: I like to do is understand those longer distance movements 668 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,959 Speaker 1: in the current, what they do as they go over 669 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: the top of something. If I've got a dear bed 670 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: and blow me, you know, how is that wind changing? 671 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: And am I going to get caught into a bad situation. 672 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: Once you have those wind checks, he kind of understand 673 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,720 Speaker 1: the wind direction. It basically comes down to not having 674 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: the animal down wind of you, you know, keeping the 675 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: wind in your face. But it's not always possible. I mean, 676 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: that's I like to think of it like this. There's 677 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: so many animals that I hunt that if I get 678 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: a consistent wind, it's no problem. You know you're going 679 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 1: to be successful that day. But very rarely do you 680 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 1: get these consistent winds or do they animals go into 681 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 1: a position where you can sneak in with the wind. 682 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: They're looking one direction. It's very hard to gauge, so 683 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: you might have to come in like perpendicular to the 684 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,280 Speaker 1: direction that the wind's going, and that's where these turbulence 685 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: and wind, these wind swirls come into play. You can 686 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 1: kind of pick and choose the direction that you're gonna 687 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,919 Speaker 1: go based on the area that's gonna have the most 688 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 1: consistent wind. If you can't have it perfect every time, 689 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: which is very rarely. Now you might understand the thermals, 690 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: and you just gotta make your moves based on predicting 691 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: what's going to happen next. If I'm going after these 692 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 1: elk and I'm I'm trailing them in the winds in 693 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: my face and I'm blow them, I gotta know that 694 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 1: at some point that thermal is gonna switch and cause 695 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: the opposite reaction. So just having a foresight into what's 696 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: going to happen later is really going to help you 697 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: plan your stock and try to be two steps ahead 698 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: instead of one step behind. As soon as you're one 699 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: step behind the jigs up, the game's over, you're done. 700 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: And now there's there's many times you know you might 701 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: not have everything just right, and you might not have 702 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: the time to wait for things to be just right, 703 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 1: or you know, where you're at, it's just not gonna 704 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: be right. So sometimes you just have to deal with 705 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 1: the hand that you're dealt. You gotta go into it knowing, okay, 706 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: there is a possibility of getting winded, but you just 707 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: kind of have to step up, be bold, and then 708 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: constantly adjust, like get in there, start making your moves, 709 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: keep checking the wind, and then keep adjusting your play 710 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 1: as you're going along and get what I would consider 711 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: the best opportunity out of a lot of bad options. 712 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: You're still probably gonna get winded in many scenarios that 713 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,399 Speaker 1: you aren't expecting it. But if you have a little 714 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 1: bit of foresight and really just keep taking the best 715 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: option available, you're going to be more successful over a 716 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,439 Speaker 1: long period of time. Now, there's a couple of things 717 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 1: that just kind of go against the grain some random 718 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: ways that they don't smell you. There's been times where 719 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: I think, oh, man, the wind is wrong, and now 720 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, there's this deer here or what ever, 721 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: and I'm like, how are they not smelling me? What's 722 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: happening in those instances probably either there's very light wind 723 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,240 Speaker 1: and it's not catching your scent, like it's not moving 724 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 1: your scent fast enough where your sense dropping to the 725 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,760 Speaker 1: ground before it's getting to that animal, or the thermals 726 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: working in your favor where it's pushing the scent up 727 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,439 Speaker 1: and over the animal. There's a few times where I've 728 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: seen say, dear bedded below a ledge, and I think 729 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 1: that that can be one of the easiest ways to 730 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: be successful. If I think back how many times I've 731 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 1: gotten shots just like right off of a ledge, they 732 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,320 Speaker 1: can't really hear you the sites obstructed. I've even stalked 733 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 1: with the wind straight at my back, but I'm high 734 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: enough above the deer that I know with a strong 735 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: wind it's gonna be turbulent enough that my scent probably 736 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: won't get to something right below me. So those are 737 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: those are the few instances that you can kind of think, Okay, 738 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,720 Speaker 1: the wind sucks, but it's in such a good position 739 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: right now it's worth risking or trying because there's no 740 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: other approach, and I'll probably get lucky with a good 741 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,839 Speaker 1: thermal coming up from the bottom and prevailing wind going 742 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: the other direction. It might just shoot it right over 743 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: the top of the deer. If they're further down, or 744 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,800 Speaker 1: it's a light wind and no thermal, or a down thermal, 745 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,720 Speaker 1: that's not gonna work. But there are certain instances where 746 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 1: you can kind of buck the wind and have it 747 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 1: in your favor. Now, I hope that that gives you 748 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: a little bit more understanding of just the way that 749 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: wind currents work and thermals work. If you have any 750 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: more questions on it, you know, feel free to reach 751 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: out via social media, especially or remy at the Meat 752 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: Eater dot com, and then we'll try to answer some 753 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: questions at the end of some episodes, and then also 754 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 1: in our Q and A s every you know, three 755 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 1: or four weeks or whatever. I know, these are kind 756 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,919 Speaker 1: of like crazy times right now, a lot of things 757 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,280 Speaker 1: up in the air. Everybody's getting little antsy and itchy 758 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: and what have you. You know, just just keep doing 759 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 1: your part. I really appreciate everybody that's listening to these podcasts. 760 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: You know, if you got if you can subscribe to it, 761 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 1: give us a comment or rating. Really appreciate that. You know, 762 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 1: while we're all in this little bit of limbo, we're 763 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: starting to get itchy and feel penned up. You know. 764 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 1: I'll be doing some cool stuff over on my Instagram, 765 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: So if you got if your board and want to 766 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 1: check that out, feel free to jump over there and 767 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: just like check some stuff out, interact with me. I 768 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 1: really appreciate that. Now, talking about interacting. Before I did this, 769 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: I I get so many questions that I just kind 770 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: of can categorize as I'll answer that question all at once, 771 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: and it has to do with wind especially. I get 772 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people they might be not Western hunters, 773 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: but mostly tree stand stationary hunters and they're talking about 774 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: scent control products like should I use send control, this, 775 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 1: that and the other thing. Here's the standard message that 776 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 1: I say with that, And I think when you talk 777 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: about wind and thermals, this is going to come up 778 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 1: if I'm talking about scent control. So what that might 779 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: be is might be like um carbon clothing, certain sprays, 780 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: scent eliminator sprays. If you're hunting in a stationary stand, 781 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 1: that makes a lot more sense because you cannot with 782 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: the wind. Now you've got to think like how mountain hunting, 783 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 1: spot and stock hunting works. It's generally quite physical, and 784 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: you're moving. As soon as you start moving, your body 785 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: creates heat that creates sweat. That sweat creates scent spraying 786 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,240 Speaker 1: your stuff down. Having scent proof clothing is gonna last 787 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: for a very very very short period of time, So 788 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: essentially it renders itself ineffective as soon as you start 789 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 1: moving around, which you need to be more mobile and 790 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: be able to move. So the best scent control you 791 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: can have is using the wind, right, I mean, think 792 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: about even if you're in a situation where you've got 793 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: a deer coming up and you could just magically pop 794 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,359 Speaker 1: into that spot fully sprayed down with all the scent 795 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 1: control stuff, that animal will probably still smell you. You You 796 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: just have to have the wind right where it might 797 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: give you the edges. If it's a slight swirl and 798 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 1: a not a direct wind, it might give you that edge, 799 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 1: but if you're moving around, it kind of renders that 800 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: edge ineffective. I have noticed that earlier in hunts when 801 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 1: you're when you're clean, you've just got freshly cleaned clothes, 802 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: you aren't as sweaty. It's harder for animals to wind you. 803 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: As the week's progress, as your backpacking, you know, your 804 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,720 Speaker 1: clothes start to stink and they can smell you easier 805 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 1: and rightfully, so you can smell yourself easier. Um, but 806 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 1: I don't think that scent control products are as effective 807 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 1: in Western hunting like that. It's just more waste of 808 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,320 Speaker 1: money at that point. Now, if your tree stand hunting, 809 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,800 Speaker 1: it can be effective, but you also want to play 810 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: the wind more than trusting in some scent control products. 811 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 1: If you have the option to buy another tree stand 812 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: or send control stuff, I'd probably just go with another 813 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 1: tree stand and get it in positions based on the winds, 814 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 1: and then if you can add a little scent control 815 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 1: stuff to that great. I know there's a lot of 816 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 1: products out there that do help and do work, and 817 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,400 Speaker 1: I've used them as well, but I think for most 818 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 1: Western hunting applications, you know, I used to I used 819 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 1: to carry scent spray and right before every stock spray 820 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 1: down UM and I'll do that every once in a while. 821 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 1: It's not a bad idea. It might give you a 822 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 1: little bit of advantage, but there's a certain point in 823 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,799 Speaker 1: it when I just don't know if I've seen the 824 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 1: actual difference because I'm keeping the wind right and using 825 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 1: the wind more than anything. So if I just use 826 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 1: the wind as the tool, I don't really have to 827 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: worry about carrying that other stuff or wonder if it's 828 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,760 Speaker 1: working or anything like that. I'm just using the wind 829 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 1: and that's my main tool. So I hope that that 830 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 1: helps everyone. Like I said, feel free to um find 831 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 1: me on Instagram if you guys want to see some stuff. 832 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 1: Maybe i'll throw out from the story today. I'll maybe 833 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 1: do like a rehash of that story that I told, 834 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: maybe throw up some pictures for that and my story 835 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 1: on there might be kind of cool. I know it's 836 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 1: fun to see like some visuals for the audio story 837 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 1: that goes down, so I appreciate it. Hey, everybody, stay 838 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 1: safe out there and keep the wind in your face. 839 00:43:51,239 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 1: Later no