WEBVTT - Are We Really Breathing Julius Caesar's Last Breath?

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what, mango? Do you remember that scene in Spaceballs

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<v Speaker 1>where mel Brooks opens up a can of Perry Air?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know that's actually kind of a thing in

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<v Speaker 1>China now? Is selling air there? Well? I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that company actually exists, but Canadians are doing this. So

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<v Speaker 1>The Washington posted his story on this guy named Moses

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<v Speaker 1>Lamb and it started as kind of a gag, but

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<v Speaker 1>he put a zip block full of fresh Canadian air

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<v Speaker 1>on eBay. It took two months to sell, and it

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<v Speaker 1>sold for a whopping, which sounds like a great business.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was bored with his day job, so he

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<v Speaker 1>decided to try it again. And guess how much? The

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<v Speaker 1>next bag sold for a hundred and sixty eight dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>So he started packaging it better and for thirty two

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a can, and they've been selling like hot And

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<v Speaker 1>he isn't the only one. I decided to do a

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<v Speaker 1>little research on this, and there's a whole industry around this. There.

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<v Speaker 1>Eucalyptus lay six packs from Australia, Rocky Mountain air straight

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<v Speaker 1>from the Colorado, even air from the Swiss Alps, and

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<v Speaker 1>people in Beijing are going crazy for it. Does anyone

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<v Speaker 1>in China do the reverse, like, do they like package

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<v Speaker 1>their smog for people living abroad? Well, I know you're joking,

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<v Speaker 1>but actually this does happen when I was doing the

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<v Speaker 1>looking into this. So novelty cans of Beijing air are

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<v Speaker 1>huge sellers, and the ingredients listed on them are pretty great.

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<v Speaker 1>It says nitrogen, oxygen and other stuff. But reading about

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<v Speaker 1>packaged there made me wonder what's actually in the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>around us and what crazy stories are hiding in every

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<v Speaker 1>breath we take. And that's what this episode is all about. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>their podcast listeners, welcome to Part Time Genius. I'm Will

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<v Speaker 1>Pearson and as always I'm joined by my good friend

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<v Speaker 1>man guest how Ticketer, And in today's episode, we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the stories literally hanging in the air. But before

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<v Speaker 1>we get to that, we've got some housekeeping to take

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<v Speaker 1>care of. You're talking about Pan Piguan. Yes, you may

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<v Speaker 1>remember from a few episodes ago it was called what's

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<v Speaker 1>the most American Place. We challenged our listeners to come

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<v Speaker 1>up with this mnemonic device to help us remember the

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<v Speaker 1>five territories that are part of the United States but

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<v Speaker 1>actually not one of the United States. Puerto Rico, Guam,

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<v Speaker 1>the US, Virgin Islands, American Samoa and Northern Mariana Islands.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think mine was pancakes grow under a nice

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<v Speaker 1>tree to help remember those? What was yours again? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>What was it? It It was like pickles. Pickles get ugly

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<v Speaker 1>after negotiations. Yeah, that's what it was. So we asked

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<v Speaker 1>listeners to send in their own, and they came flooding in.

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<v Speaker 1>It was pretty awesome to see. So I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>recognize some of those, and we've got some prizes to

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<v Speaker 1>give away. One that I thought was pretty terrific was

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<v Speaker 1>and very simple, but I thought easy to remember. From

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<v Speaker 1>Fred Kruk. We have pine nuts are unusually good, unusually good,

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<v Speaker 1>all right? The best trio of responses. Kelly Lawson in

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<v Speaker 1>Um Georgia sent this one, as she actually sent three,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've got pirates go ashore under nightfall, people get

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<v Speaker 1>uneasy around Ninja's and politics get ugly around November like

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<v Speaker 1>also are so good? All right? You got a T

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<v Speaker 1>shirt coming to you, Kelly. And let's see what other

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<v Speaker 1>we've got two more. We tried to come up with

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<v Speaker 1>the top three, but it was just too hard to

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<v Speaker 1>do this. I have to admit this might actually be

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite from Brett Wilkes in Massachusetts. Paul Giamat's undershirts

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<v Speaker 1>are nuanced, just so nuanced, all right. And then one

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<v Speaker 1>that was um actually used more letters to use both

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<v Speaker 1>letters and some of these pose Raven gave us vodka

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<v Speaker 1>and said never more, and I just thought that was awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, So you guys are winners. And then one

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<v Speaker 1>that was just crazy complicated, and I thought, because it

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<v Speaker 1>was even more difficult to remember than just remembering the names,

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<v Speaker 1>I think deserves a prize. Rob Brown, Um, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be getting a prize as well. So his explanation, Since

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<v Speaker 1>Demonic begins with a silent M, I suggest the following

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<v Speaker 1>Northern Mariana's American Samoa guam Us, Virgin Island, Puerto Rico

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<v Speaker 1>becomes Mascus viper. The end, of course, is silent pronounced

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<v Speaker 1>the Mascus with a silent like with us, which sounds

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<v Speaker 1>a little like Damascus, and then the rest sounds like viper.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so complicated, but but I love that, So Rob,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to be getting a prize too, So thank

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<v Speaker 1>you all for participating in this contest. That is pretty awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's dig into today's episode topic, you know, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that really inspired this episode was Sam

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<v Speaker 1>Kaine's new book called Caesar's Last Breath. Yeah, that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have Samon in just a bit. And you know

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<v Speaker 1>what his book kind of reminded me of. So here's

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<v Speaker 1>a book that came out a few years ago called

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<v Speaker 1>Twinkie Deconstructed, where the author looked at the back of

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<v Speaker 1>a Twinkie package and realized there were like thirty nine

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<v Speaker 1>ingredients that go into Twinkies. Then many he didn't recognize.

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<v Speaker 1>A whole bunch of them were unpronounceable. So we decided

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<v Speaker 1>to chase down the story for each one, and each

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<v Speaker 1>chapter is about a different ingredient. So he goes down

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<v Speaker 1>to mind Shaft and Idaho, He's chasing across this field

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<v Speaker 1>in China, and it's crazy, but that's kind of what

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<v Speaker 1>Sam does. Like he looks at a single breath of

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<v Speaker 1>air and goes down a rabbit hole on the elements

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<v Speaker 1>and compounds in air and it is fascinating. Yeah. But

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<v Speaker 1>the funny thing is, as soon as I started researching

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<v Speaker 1>air and this is so me, but I immediately wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to go to Tangent Town, like I know where someone

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<v Speaker 1>to be talking oxygen and nitrogen and argon and whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But I immediately wanted to talk about like an air

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<v Speaker 1>hockey game some students invented, and air guitar competitions, and honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>anything but chemistry spoken like the son of a chemical engineer,

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<v Speaker 1>and that would be you. Yeah, well, just to be warned,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got this pile of non essential facts for the

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<v Speaker 1>fact off that all have the word air in them,

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<v Speaker 1>like air fresheners. Can't wait for this. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know the inspiration for those little tree air

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<v Speaker 1>fresheners that hang in taxis? I mean, I've seen those

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<v Speaker 1>a million times, but now I don't know where those

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<v Speaker 1>came from. You probably realize it's a bad smell, but

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<v Speaker 1>more specifically, they got to start when this chemist overheard

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<v Speaker 1>a milkman crying over spilled milk, or rather that he

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<v Speaker 1>hated the smell of the spilled milk in his truck. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>the chemist wasn't immigrant from Europe, and he started thinking

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<v Speaker 1>that a little like alpine scent from his homeland could help.

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<v Speaker 1>So he designed the air freshener. But strangely, the first

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<v Speaker 1>ones weren't tree shaped. They were shaped like pin up girls.

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<v Speaker 1>But He didn't change the design because it was sexist.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just that it was easier to pull plastic

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<v Speaker 1>off a tree pattern, So that's why he changed it

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<v Speaker 1>from a woman's shop. It's weird to think about the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that there were just all these things that we noticed,

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<v Speaker 1>but we don't ever stop to question why they're that way.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I've been again and hundreds of calves and

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<v Speaker 1>you just are like, oh, well, they're just all shaped

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<v Speaker 1>like trees. I don't really know why, but they are

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<v Speaker 1>the other awesome things that like, his family's owned this

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<v Speaker 1>company for three generations and they claimed that they've sold

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<v Speaker 1>as many air fresheners as McDonald's has sold Hamburgers over

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<v Speaker 1>the airs. Oh my god, I would imagine that things

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<v Speaker 1>are crazy profitable to all. Right, to keep us on

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<v Speaker 1>track here, So just like sleep flavor, two topics we've

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<v Speaker 1>covered here on the show, the reason we chose air

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<v Speaker 1>is that it's something that's easy to overlook, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>partially because it's invisible. But the other reason we don't

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<v Speaker 1>think about it very often is that, honestly, we just

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to. Yeah, I mean, breathing happens automatically, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm consciously under normal circumstances. So unless something is actually wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not really concentrating on our breath. That just keeps

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<v Speaker 1>going on in the background. But until we researched it

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<v Speaker 1>for this episode, like, I had no idea what the

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<v Speaker 1>numbers look like. Like you could have told me, like,

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<v Speaker 1>we take five thousand breaths a day or a million

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<v Speaker 1>breaths in a day, and I probably would have believed you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I probably would too, But what's the real number? Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for crying that up. I actually have those numbers

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<v Speaker 1>right here. So the average adult takes a breath once

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<v Speaker 1>every four seconds, So most people are taking somewhere in

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<v Speaker 1>the neighborhood of like twenty thousand breaths to day, and

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<v Speaker 1>it can be closer to fifty if you're really active.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can imagine if every one of those breaths

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<v Speaker 1>was a conscious action, we'd never get anything done. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's no way for us to be as

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<v Speaker 1>picky about our breathing as we are out eating or drinking.

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<v Speaker 1>We'd lose our minds if it was something we actually

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<v Speaker 1>thought about. Yeah, And I'm so used to thinking of

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<v Speaker 1>airs like a single thing, but air is actually a

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<v Speaker 1>combination of tons and tons of different gas molecules. Like

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<v Speaker 1>in his book Sam keenes as a normal human breath

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<v Speaker 1>is about a half liter of air, which breaks down

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<v Speaker 1>to over twelve sex tillion molecules. That doesn't even sound

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<v Speaker 1>like a real number. I'm pretty sure you just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to say sex. But so, how many zeros are at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of a sex tillion? I know, I had

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<v Speaker 1>to actually look this up. There are twenty one. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, it's a staggering amount of zero. It's also

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<v Speaker 1>a crazy number of molecules for a single So that's

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<v Speaker 1>a single breath. Yeah, and imagine like we're taking twenty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand breaths a day. I don't even want to think

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<v Speaker 1>about that. That's crazy. Yeah. So what's even weirder is

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<v Speaker 1>that a large portion of the gas molecules and every

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<v Speaker 1>breath we take are recycled from someone else's. So no

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<v Speaker 1>matter where you are in the world, no matter how

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<v Speaker 1>fresh and clean the air scenes, even if you're getting

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<v Speaker 1>it from like a six pack of your Rocky mountain

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<v Speaker 1>air that you're talking about, it's a certainty that some

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<v Speaker 1>of what you're breathing is really second and breath, or

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<v Speaker 1>third hand or fourth hand or fifth hand, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a little unsettling, but I don't know, maybe kind of sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, breath seems like this intimate thing to share

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<v Speaker 1>with someone. So the fact that we're all swapping it

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<v Speaker 1>around every four seconds, that means we're all tapping into

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<v Speaker 1>this invisible shared history between us. Yeah, it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>brotherhood of breath, which is this wonderful, poetic notion. I

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<v Speaker 1>was kidding, it's actually kind of gross, really, like, think

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<v Speaker 1>about people breathing on you. But the really crazy thing

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<v Speaker 1>is how far back that shared history goes. Like the

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<v Speaker 1>air we breathe is never completely lost or destroyed, is

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<v Speaker 1>just redistributed. So the title of Sam's book hints at

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<v Speaker 1>this by bringing up Caesar. He breathes dying breath like

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<v Speaker 1>over two thousand years ago. But those sextillion gas molecules

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<v Speaker 1>they live on and wind spread them all over the

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<v Speaker 1>world in a matter of weeks, and Da've been breathing

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<v Speaker 1>and out in different combinations ever since. In fact, it

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<v Speaker 1>turns out that approximately one particle of Caesar's last breath

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<v Speaker 1>will be found in the very next one you take.

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<v Speaker 1>So multiply that by the number of breaths you take

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<v Speaker 1>per day, and you're literally inhaling thousands of microsoftic bits

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<v Speaker 1>of Caesar's secondhand air every single day of your life. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that is pretty nuts, And I'm still sticking with the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that that's a little bit gross, but especially when

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<v Speaker 1>you consider that has to be true of every person's breath,

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<v Speaker 1>not just Caesar's. Yeah, the other thing I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 1>was just how fluid there is. Like, in fact, any

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<v Speaker 1>expulsion of air anywhere in the world will reach you

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<v Speaker 1>within the span of two weeks, two months, or a

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<v Speaker 1>year or two depending on where you are in relation

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<v Speaker 1>to it. You can almost imagine it as the sea

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<v Speaker 1>of gas is flowing across the whole world. That is

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<v Speaker 1>really wild. Actually this isn't an air tangent. But what

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<v Speaker 1>about fluid dynamics. Do you know that scientists that you

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<v Speaker 1>see Santa Barbara have studied why we tend to spill

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<v Speaker 1>coffee from our mugs when we walk, Like apparently because

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<v Speaker 1>of our gate and the way the coffee moves, we

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<v Speaker 1>naturally create this oscillation that will spill the drink between

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<v Speaker 1>our seventh and tenth steps. I love that there's a

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<v Speaker 1>study around this. Yeah, so if you actually like slow

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<v Speaker 1>down every fifth or sixth step, you should be golden.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty awesome. I actually I thought when you said

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<v Speaker 1>you were going to do a tangent, I thought this

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be about how mosh pits actually follow

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<v Speaker 1>fluid dynamic models, and how people in mosh pits act

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<v Speaker 1>the same way molecules and gas to I mean, they're

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<v Speaker 1>actually scientific papers on this. You know, it's crazy, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking that up again and and I realized

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<v Speaker 1>that the scientists figured out that if you reshape how

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<v Speaker 1>a mosh pit works, people actually motion straight lines. They phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the I like the phrase motion straight list. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have to do a totally different episode on like

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<v Speaker 1>fluid dynamics and the studies of like swimming in molasses

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<v Speaker 1>and whatever. All right, but now that we have an

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<v Speaker 1>idea on how air flows, why don't we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>its power and specifically how it's aided human flight. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing you want to talk about the right Brothers, No,

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<v Speaker 1>not the rights. I'm thinking we should go back to

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<v Speaker 1>the late seventeen hundreds, even before the rights, when another

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<v Speaker 1>Frenchman named Joseph Michelle Montgolfier was daydreaming about his wife's lingerie.

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<v Speaker 1>I love how much like laundren pin ups. So then

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned the sextillion. It's just getting area to dirty fast.

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<v Speaker 1>But all right, so there's a great story here. Montgolfier

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<v Speaker 1>was watching his wife's laundry dry over a fire when

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<v Speaker 1>he noticed her underwear billowing and rising whenever the heat

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<v Speaker 1>from the flames increased. So he gets curious about what's

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<v Speaker 1>causing this lift, and he starts thinking about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>he decides that he could build this you know, sack

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<v Speaker 1>of air as he decides to lift himself in the

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<v Speaker 1>same way to possibly fly. So he tries a few

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<v Speaker 1>experiments and after some help from his younger brother, Montgolfier

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<v Speaker 1>succeeded in creating the world's first hot air balloon, which

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<v Speaker 1>he described as a cloud and a paper bag. That's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty amazing. So he figured that all out by watching

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<v Speaker 1>some laundry air. Well, that's the thing. So josephont Gulfier

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<v Speaker 1>was an amateur scientist at best. I mean, he was

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<v Speaker 1>a fan of chemistry rock stars like Priestley and Labassier,

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<v Speaker 1>but he could hardly claim to be an expert himself.

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<v Speaker 1>He actually thought it was the smoke from the fire

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<v Speaker 1>that would make the balloon rise, not the air itself.

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<v Speaker 1>So when the Montgolfier's held the first public demonstration of

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<v Speaker 1>an unman balloon flight, they got it airborne by building

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest smokiest bonfire they could. They burned wool, rabbit, skins, straw,

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<v Speaker 1>even old shoes. Can you imagine how bad the smelled? Terrible?

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<v Speaker 1>But the Montgolfier brothers had perfected their shoe burning technique

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<v Speaker 1>by the time they held their second flight. This time

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<v Speaker 1>they sent a sheep, a rooster, and I think a

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<v Speaker 1>duck airborne. And they were all in this little cage

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<v Speaker 1>that hung beneath the balloon, and the demonstration drew this

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<v Speaker 1>huge crowd. I think even King Louis the sixteenth was

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<v Speaker 1>there to watch this thing. As the balloon animals traveled

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<v Speaker 1>two miles before they touched down unharmed. Well, I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>they arrived on harm But this is supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>mankind's dream. Did the Montolfier has ever managed to get

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<v Speaker 1>a human airborne? They sure did, and King Louis had

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<v Speaker 1>suggested that their brothers send up two criminals first, just

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<v Speaker 1>in case something went wrong, But the Montgolfier's didn't think

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<v Speaker 1>the convicts worthy of the honor, so Instead, they decided

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<v Speaker 1>to enlist a physicist and a local marquis for the task.

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<v Speaker 1>It was on November three, and these men became the

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<v Speaker 1>first human beings in history to actually fly, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a huge honor. Yeah, though unfortunately the same physicist holds

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<v Speaker 1>a less prestigious title. Two years later, he became the

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<v Speaker 1>first flight fatality when his balloon caught fire. He was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to cross the English Channel at the time, which

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<v Speaker 1>is horrible. But before we move on, mind if I

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<v Speaker 1>cleared the air with one of my favorite hot air

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<v Speaker 1>balloon stories. All So, Tristan, can you cue the storytelling music?

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<v Speaker 1>So this is a story from East Germany in the

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<v Speaker 1>late nineteen seventies. He's two friends, Hans Strelzik and Gunther Wetzel,

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<v Speaker 1>both happened to watch a late night documentary on the

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<v Speaker 1>history of hot air balloons and it gave them this idea,

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<v Speaker 1>what if they used a balloon to flee communism and

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<v Speaker 1>hoped the Berlin Wall like It sounds obvious in theory

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<v Speaker 1>but pretty difficult in practice. And it helped that one

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<v Speaker 1>was a bricklayer and the other was this mechanic and

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<v Speaker 1>of course they had to work on the project in

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<v Speaker 1>total secrecy. They built an engine out of propane gas

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<v Speaker 1>cylinders that they somehow squirreled away, and they stitched a

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<v Speaker 1>balloon out of tafada. They had to buy the material

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<v Speaker 1>from different shops and space out their purchases so it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't look suspicious, and their wives got involved, like stitching

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<v Speaker 1>this giant balloon together. It had to be big enough

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<v Speaker 1>to hold both their families. But here's the crazy part.

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<v Speaker 1>Right on the night they decided to leave, Mrs Wetzel

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<v Speaker 1>gets nervous and backs out, says the strel They go

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<v Speaker 1>it alone. I mean it's rainy and the conditions aren't great,

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<v Speaker 1>and the engine on the balloon gives out after a

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<v Speaker 1>few minutes. But suddenly they get spotted by the border police.

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<v Speaker 1>Somehow they managed to escape to their car without getting caught.

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<v Speaker 1>But now the Stazzi, you know, those terrifying East German

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<v Speaker 1>secret police, they have this evidence of the balloon and

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<v Speaker 1>they're on the trail. So now they're working against the

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<v Speaker 1>clock and there's really no option but to flee. The

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<v Speaker 1>families start over. This time they use canvas and bed

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<v Speaker 1>sheets to make a stronger balloon. They somehow source all

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<v Speaker 1>this material again, I mean sixty pieces of canvas go

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<v Speaker 1>into this thing in addition to all these bed sheets,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're working overtime, as it's told, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think this is false. Stazi is basically closing in on

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<v Speaker 1>the operation. So the two families take off and the

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<v Speaker 1>dead of night again. This time the conditions are better,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's no basket, just a platform and some metal

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<v Speaker 1>bits for these two wives and two husbands and four

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<v Speaker 1>kids to hold onto. And they're up in the air

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<v Speaker 1>at a height of eight thousand feet if I for

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<v Speaker 1>what feels like thirty minutes, just clinging on for their lives.

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<v Speaker 1>And finally they land and they have no idea where

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<v Speaker 1>they are, but when a cop spots them in the

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<v Speaker 1>field and approaches them, they quickly realized they made it

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<v Speaker 1>to West Germany. I mean, isn't that a great story?

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<v Speaker 1>They became heroes in the West overnight, and the hot

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<v Speaker 1>air balloon became for wild at least, the symbol of freedom.

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<v Speaker 1>That is crazy. Yeah, that's a that's that's a good story.

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<v Speaker 1>I think maybe LaVar Burton needs to be worried about

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<v Speaker 1>story time with Mango. That is really good and I

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<v Speaker 1>can't imagine trying to build a Hot Air Balloon on

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<v Speaker 1>my own. I mean now that we have the benefit

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<v Speaker 1>of YouTube, but back then based on what they learned

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<v Speaker 1>from a documentary, that seems insane. But before we return

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<v Speaker 1>to the topic of air, what do you say we

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<v Speaker 1>take a break for a quiz? Sounds great, Samango, Who

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<v Speaker 1>do we have on the line today? We've got Stan

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<v Speaker 1>Hesse and Kyle Laxton from the U S Hot Air

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<v Speaker 1>Balloon Team out of Lancaster, p A wonderful Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>part time genius guys, So stay and I see you

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<v Speaker 1>founded the company. Can you tell us how it all started.

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<v Speaker 1>I went for a balloon ride one day back in

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<v Speaker 1>the early nineteen eighties, and UH decided I just had

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<v Speaker 1>to have one, got my first balloon, decided to um,

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<v Speaker 1>bigger was better, and the United States had her balloon team.

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<v Speaker 1>Just seemed like a natural extension, and we went to work,

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<v Speaker 1>and probably fifty balloons later, here we are. That's incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>So I heard you guys are on the NTV show Promposals,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was curious, what's the most romantic thing you've

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<v Speaker 1>seen in the air. You've got anything from you know,

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<v Speaker 1>proposals to people just coming out to hang out all

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<v Speaker 1>the way to drop on a couple of skydivers out

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<v Speaker 1>of the balloon. You know what I mean, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>you name it. If you could do it in the balloon,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're down to have some fun. Typically we

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<v Speaker 1>probably have an engagement or two every week in one

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<v Speaker 1>of our balloons. What about any surprising or memorable landings.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you gotta think, you gotta remember, you know

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<v Speaker 1>how your ballooning were always landed somewhere different every time,

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<v Speaker 1>So I would say every flight is unusual and exciting

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<v Speaker 1>in its own way, you know, whether it be a

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<v Speaker 1>field in the middle of a farm or culd de

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<v Speaker 1>sac during Fourth of July, you know, when you've got

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<v Speaker 1>barbecues left and right. You know, it's it's just really

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<v Speaker 1>neat everybody coming out, either helping out put the balloon away,

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<v Speaker 1>or just come out and take pictures. You know. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just definitely makes for a good story at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day. And if I can offer, if I

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<v Speaker 1>can offer mine, I think that I probably would tell

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<v Speaker 1>you that the most memorable place that I've ever landed

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<v Speaker 1>a balloon a nudist colony, and it would have been

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<v Speaker 1>better that they had their clothes on. That's pretty great, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>was that an intentional landing? Did you mean to land

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<v Speaker 1>in a nudist colony? Actually, it was part of a

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<v Speaker 1>part of a contest where we're as part of the event,

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<v Speaker 1>all the participants were given we're given coordinates to where

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<v Speaker 1>they were supposed to land their balloon. We didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>it was the newest colony up front, but we tried

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<v Speaker 1>to fly to the coordinates and we and we come

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<v Speaker 1>into the coordinates and my goodness heard these people are

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<v Speaker 1>without clothing and we had no idea it was a

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<v Speaker 1>new dest colony. Do we land? Yeah? So you did?

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't offer any rides once you got there? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>guessing no, No, But it was it was it was,

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<v Speaker 1>It was different, It was different. Well, let's put these

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<v Speaker 1>guys to the test, Mango, What what quiz are we

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<v Speaker 1>playing with them today? We've got a really dumb quiz

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<v Speaker 1>called the air up there, or rather things that rhyme

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<v Speaker 1>with the air of their Okay, right, So, because we

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<v Speaker 1>like to make people say things that sound like phrases,

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<v Speaker 1>every answer in this quiz will be the blank up there. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>So here we go. Let's get started with question number one.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys ready, all right, let's do it you can

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<v Speaker 1>work together. Question Number one. If lazy Way put too

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<v Speaker 1>many balloons on their furniture, it would be got that

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<v Speaker 1>one to chair up there? You got it, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>one for one. Number two, if Paddington or Winnie the

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<v Speaker 1>Pooh went to space, they'd be the bear up there.

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<v Speaker 1>Got it. If Joe Biden went airborne, he'd be representing

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<v Speaker 1>this state, Delaware. Yeah, the Delaware up there right here

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<v Speaker 1>we go, all right. Number four, if your family's nice forks, knives,

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<v Speaker 1>and spoons were since skyward, they would be you got it.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a tough one. Number five, This is for all

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<v Speaker 1>the prize. Here we go. Number five, if the dromedary

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<v Speaker 1>colored overcoat were shot into the atmosphere, it would be

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<v Speaker 1>the hare up there. You got it. Congratulations, guys, tell

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<v Speaker 1>them how they did mango. They went a't astounding five

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<v Speaker 1>for five, And in addition to a note to their

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<v Speaker 1>mom or boss and their praises, are contestants of each

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<v Speaker 1>earned macaroni and cheese air Freshener's the strangest smelling air

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<v Speaker 1>freshener we could find the market. Congratulations, all right, congratulations guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and thanks so much for being on part time genius. Unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. It's all good. Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>part time genius. So Mango, we should probably talk a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about the composition of air and some of

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<v Speaker 1>those stories, but honestly, I want to keep talking about

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<v Speaker 1>hot air balloons after your story, So Sam Keene writes,

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<v Speaker 1>Besides the daredevils and picnickers, balloon flights also stimulated interest

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<v Speaker 1>in the properties of gases. Indeed, it's no coincidence that

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<v Speaker 1>some of the first balloonists were also some of the

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<v Speaker 1>first people to explore the behavior of gases in a

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<v Speaker 1>systematic way. These men had the most to lose, including

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<v Speaker 1>their lives, if their theories failed, which is a great point.

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<v Speaker 1>Like atmosphere chemists and other brainy aeronauts made full use

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<v Speaker 1>of the practical applications of hot air balloons. They used

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<v Speaker 1>balloons in all kinds of experiments that grastually expanded our

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<v Speaker 1>understanding of the miles and miles of air above us.

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<v Speaker 1>And while Sam makes a distinction between daredevils and scientists,

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<v Speaker 1>the French chemist and physicist Joseph Louis gay Lusak he

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<v Speaker 1>was definitely both. How's that well, even before he was

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<v Speaker 1>pushing the limits of the skies. Gay Lusac was testing

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<v Speaker 1>the limits of his lab. He almost blinded himself during

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<v Speaker 1>multiple experiments, and he even shocked himself with a homemade

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<v Speaker 1>battery to the point that he couldn't move his arm

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<v Speaker 1>for a day. It just sounds a little more reckless

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<v Speaker 1>than well. I think we should just call him determined,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the best way to explain the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>he took a hot air balloon solo to over twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three thousand feet, which is totally insane. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 1>do need to put this in perspective for our listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>So most recreational balloon is stick between about twelve hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and three thousand feet tops, and that's in balloons with

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<v Speaker 1>modern day safety features. Yeah, his altitude stood as a

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<v Speaker 1>world record for more than a century, so at least

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<v Speaker 1>the ordeal netted him some fame afterwards because it had

0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:58.439
<v Speaker 1>to be rough going in the moment. That air up

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<v Speaker 1>there is really thin, and he would have only had

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<v Speaker 1>a short period to collect samples of verified like high

0:23:04.600 --> 0:23:07.560
<v Speaker 1>altitude air before high tailing it back down After all

0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:10.160
<v Speaker 1>that effort, where the samples even useful totally I mean,

0:23:10.160 --> 0:23:12.439
<v Speaker 1>they showed us that the composition of the atmosphere is

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<v Speaker 1>the same at sea level as it is miles up

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<v Speaker 1>in the air, and while there's less air in general

0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:22.080
<v Speaker 1>at higher altitudes, as gay Lusac learned, the proportions of nitrogen, oxygen,

0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:24.679
<v Speaker 1>and other gases are the same no matter the altitude.

0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:27.600
<v Speaker 1>To breakthrough led to the discovery of several crucial gas

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<v Speaker 1>laws that have helped explain the nature of gases and

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<v Speaker 1>how they behave under different conditions. All Right, I'll admit

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<v Speaker 1>that does sound worth the risk. I guess as long

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<v Speaker 1>as it's somebody else doing the flight. And gaylu Sock,

0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:39.359
<v Speaker 1>he's the guy that figured out that water is made

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<v Speaker 1>up of two parts hydrogen one part oxygen. Right, Yeah,

0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:44.800
<v Speaker 1>that's right. He and his partner in science, Alexander von Humboldt,

0:23:44.800 --> 0:23:46.880
<v Speaker 1>who is often in that hot air balloon with him.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, So here's something I've found fascinating, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not something I normally think about, but it's how strong

0:23:52.080 --> 0:23:55.040
<v Speaker 1>the air pressure is around us. So the planet's normal

0:23:55.080 --> 0:23:58.320
<v Speaker 1>air pressure is something like fourteen point five pounds per

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<v Speaker 1>square inch, which is a solid ton of force per

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<v Speaker 1>square foot. I mean, that's round the clock power pressing

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<v Speaker 1>in on you from all directions. It really is kind

0:24:07.240 --> 0:24:09.560
<v Speaker 1>of a wonder we can even stand it. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know the only thing that keeps us from

0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:15.080
<v Speaker 1>crumpling from that air pressure are indomitable human spirits, good

0:24:15.119 --> 0:24:18.240
<v Speaker 1>guesses always, but nope, it's the It's the air that

0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:20.720
<v Speaker 1>we're carrying around with us, so we don't notice these

0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:23.320
<v Speaker 1>twenty or so tons of force pressing into us because

0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:26.119
<v Speaker 1>there's an equal amount of force pushing back from the

0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:29.440
<v Speaker 1>inside of our bodies. So Sam Kane describes it pretty well.

0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:32.560
<v Speaker 1>He says, in theory, a piece of aluminum foil, if

0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:37.359
<v Speaker 1>perfectly balanced between blasts from two fire hoses, would survive intact.

0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:39.840
<v Speaker 1>But who would risk it. Our skin and our organs

0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:43.800
<v Speaker 1>face the same predicament visa the air. Just imagining that's crazy,

0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:46.880
<v Speaker 1>and I'm so glad it's a tie between the air forces.

0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:50.280
<v Speaker 1>I would say, though, If the Industrial Revolution taught me anything,

0:24:50.600 --> 0:24:54.320
<v Speaker 1>it's that gases like steam can be powerful allies. Oh absolutely,

0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:56.359
<v Speaker 1>And it's best to stay on their good side too,

0:24:56.400 --> 0:24:59.520
<v Speaker 1>because some of them fight pretty dirty. So take nitroglycerin

0:24:59.600 --> 0:25:02.200
<v Speaker 1>for examp apple, which Sam also talks about in his book.

0:25:02.560 --> 0:25:06.080
<v Speaker 1>There's a huge amount of energy within nitro's chemical bonds.

0:25:06.119 --> 0:25:09.600
<v Speaker 1>But the real reason for any explosive destructive power, it's

0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:12.760
<v Speaker 1>the speed and force at which that energy is released, right,

0:25:12.800 --> 0:25:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Because technically speaking, an ounce of coal or gasoline, or

0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:18.359
<v Speaker 1>even a stick of butter contains more energy than the

0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:21.280
<v Speaker 1>same amount of most explosives. It's just that my pad

0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:23.560
<v Speaker 1>of butter here doesn't have the means to release its

0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:26.440
<v Speaker 1>energy outwardly because it doesn't have the same power of

0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:29.119
<v Speaker 1>a volatile gas cocktail on its side. You have a

0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:33.280
<v Speaker 1>pad of butter over there all right. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't let the topic of nitroglycerin pass without talking

0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:38.439
<v Speaker 1>about Alfred Nobel. I mean, we all know him from

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:40.800
<v Speaker 1>the Nobel Prizes and that he made his fortune by

0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:43.399
<v Speaker 1>making dynamite. And this is one of those facts that

0:25:43.440 --> 0:25:45.800
<v Speaker 1>before anybody starts screaming, I know that fact. I know

0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 1>that fact. It's kind of like that fact about Taft

0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:50.600
<v Speaker 1>getting stuck in the bathtub, where everybody knows it and

0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:52.840
<v Speaker 1>everybody likes to point it out. But you know what's

0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:55.080
<v Speaker 1>funny is that I always thought Nobel came up with

0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:58.040
<v Speaker 1>dynamite in a vacuum, but he was actually the son

0:25:58.080 --> 0:26:01.720
<v Speaker 1>of a Swedish weapons manufactured Did you know this. He

0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:05.239
<v Speaker 1>then witnessed the demonstration of the destructive power of a

0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:08.639
<v Speaker 1>single drop of nitroglycerin in his youth, and he became

0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:12.320
<v Speaker 1>obsessed with explosives. He started funneling his family's fortune into

0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:16.880
<v Speaker 1>making nitroglycer and more reliable and less likely to explode prematurely.

0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:19.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, just to give you a sense of how

0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 1>volatile nitroglycerin is. Gunpowder explodes in a few thousands of

0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:27.320
<v Speaker 1>a second, but nitroglycern explodes within a millionth of a second.

0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:30.240
<v Speaker 1>But no. Bill's big breakthrough was to slow down the

0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:33.880
<v Speaker 1>nitro by adding gunpowder and then packing them both into

0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:36.640
<v Speaker 1>a hollow piece of wood. And this creates the world's

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<v Speaker 1>first blasting cap. So he started selling blasting caps as

0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:42.960
<v Speaker 1>well as raw nitro, which he dubbed blasting oil, to

0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:45.840
<v Speaker 1>miners and construction crews all over the world. So I'm

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:48.960
<v Speaker 1>guessing he used those profits to fund his prize program.

0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Well maybe partly, but really the blasting caps and oil

0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:55.600
<v Speaker 1>proved to be disastrous products. There were numerous deaths and

0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 1>injuries from accidental explosions. In fact, this thing got so

0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 1>bad that nobody he would rent labs based the Nobel anymore.

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:05.800
<v Speaker 1>This is Alphred Nobel. So he actually converted a barge

0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 1>into this floating laboratory and he spent years sailing from

0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 1>port to port and people started calling this Nobel's death show.

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 1>And it was while he was at sea that he

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:18.400
<v Speaker 1>hit on the idea of encasing the nitro and gunpowder

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:21.199
<v Speaker 1>and a clay like substance, and that made the mixture

0:27:21.240 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 1>less likely to blow up unintentionally. So now we're talking

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:27.480
<v Speaker 1>about dynamite, and with a capital D. Actually because Nobel

0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:30.320
<v Speaker 1>trademarked the name, and that was a move that paid

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:34.399
<v Speaker 1>off for him to Dynamite became incredibly popular once mining

0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:37.680
<v Speaker 1>and construction firms saw what it could do, and suddenly

0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 1>all kinds of knockoff sprang up, something called hercules powder

0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 1>and grin rock, but Nobel was swatting them down with

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 1>his patents, and in the end the products success actually

0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 1>cost him his trademark. Dynamite worked its way into the

0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:52.760
<v Speaker 1>public lexicon and became a generic term, kind of like

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:55.920
<v Speaker 1>clean X or zipper. By the way, my uncle, who

0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:59.200
<v Speaker 1>was an advertising bombay, actually ran into the same problem.

0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 1>He couldn't get people to stop saying they were making

0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:04.200
<v Speaker 1>a xerox like for some reason, the word coffee wouldn't

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:06.879
<v Speaker 1>catch on there, and his client was HP. So the

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 1>slogan they ended up pushing was make your xerox on

0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:13.639
<v Speaker 1>an HP. That's ridiculous. All right. Well, there's actually a

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:15.480
<v Speaker 1>little bit more of a Nobel's story that I think

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:17.720
<v Speaker 1>we should talk about, and and that's the role that

0:28:17.800 --> 0:28:21.159
<v Speaker 1>air plays in human psychology. But before we get into that,

0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:28.560
<v Speaker 1>why don't we break for a quiz. So our guest

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 1>today is one of our favorite science writers. He was

0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 1>one of the early writers at Mental Flaws actually in

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 1>our days there. Obviously, he's written such books as the

0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Tale of the Dueling Neurosurgeons, The Disappearing Spoon, and many

0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:42.440
<v Speaker 1>of our other favorites. But his latest book is called

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Caesar's Last Breath, and that's the book that we've been

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<v Speaker 1>talking about today. Sam Keene, Welcome to Part Time Genius. Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for having me. Hey Sam, so uh, you know,

0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:54.800
<v Speaker 1>the title of your book is so poetic, and I

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 1>was wondering if you'd explain it to our listeners. Yeah.

0:28:57.280 --> 0:29:02.160
<v Speaker 1>It's sort of a classic problem in chemistry and physics

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 1>classes where they ask students what are the odds that

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 1>the next breath you are taking will include a molecule

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:16.880
<v Speaker 1>that Caesar breathe his last breath um when he was

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:22.480
<v Speaker 1>assassinated back into b c in robe. And it's the

0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 1>question kind of investigates a couple of different ideas about,

0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:29.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, how many molecules are in every breath that

0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 1>you inhale, how long those molecules last in the atmosphere,

0:29:35.600 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 1>how uh you know a breath or any gas really

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:42.200
<v Speaker 1>spreads around the atmosphere, how quickly it is, how large

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 1>the atmosphere is, And to answer the question you kind

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 1>of have to take all of those factors into account.

0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:50.520
<v Speaker 1>So it's a poetic and interesting question, but there's a

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:54.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of good science behind it as well, and kind

0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 1>of surprisingly, the odds of you breathing in a molecule

0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 1>that's Caesar breathe during his last breath are quite high.

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Each time you take a breath, on an average, you're

0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 1>probably breathing in depending on the assumptions you make, one

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 1>molecule or so, and over the course of a day,

0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 1>it's almost a statistical certainty that you're going to breathe

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 1>in several thousands of those molecules. So it is really

0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:24.200
<v Speaker 1>cool connection between the past and the present day that

0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't really think about that's something that happens every

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:29.320
<v Speaker 1>single time you take a breath. Wow, that's it's still

0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 1>so strange, no matter how much we thought about it

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:34.120
<v Speaker 1>in in reading this book, it's such a such a

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 1>bizarre fact. I felt like after I read the chapter

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:39.680
<v Speaker 1>on these German scientists racing to extract ammonia from the air,

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 1>I came away with this, I don't a new appreciation

0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:45.400
<v Speaker 1>for the compound. And I think you wrote that ammonia

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:48.640
<v Speaker 1>fertilizers actually grow what half of the world's food did.

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Now did you come away from the book with a

0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:55.280
<v Speaker 1>new respect for any element or other compounds. Yeah, the

0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:57.880
<v Speaker 1>ammonia thing, getting the nitrogen out of the air and

0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 1>making something useful from it, it does really give you

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:07.640
<v Speaker 1>a perspective on how important the air is and what

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:11.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, just just the hidden way that really influences

0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 1>our lives that we don't think about. Uh, you know,

0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 1>half the people on the planet wouldn't be here today

0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 1>if not for that process of being able to get

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 1>the nitrogen out of the air and make it into fertilizers.

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:26.120
<v Speaker 1>So it does, I mean, we all know on some

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 1>level obviously that you need to you know, have access

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 1>to air to live. But the fact the importance of

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 1>the air really goes even beyond just sort of day

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:37.400
<v Speaker 1>to day breathing. All of these guests is you know,

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:40.800
<v Speaker 1>they helped drive the industrial revolution. They really drive the weather.

0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Things like that, Um, you can you know, and you're

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:49.000
<v Speaker 1>inhaling anesthesia and refrigerants, all these different things, uh that

0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 1>make up our modern life. They really are derived. They

0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 1>come from things that are going on in the air

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:57.560
<v Speaker 1>all the time, even if you don't really think about

0:31:57.600 --> 0:32:00.160
<v Speaker 1>them in your day to day life. Now of the

0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:02.160
<v Speaker 1>things I really loved about the book is that these

0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 1>little offbeat meanderings that you had. And I was curious

0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 1>why you included the tangent on the Peto Maine because

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 1>it's really funny, but I just want to hear your

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:15.000
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on it. Yeah, the Peto main was sort of

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 1>this uh they called him as Partis, who was basically

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 1>uh an artist who used a flagelence to do impressions

0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:27.040
<v Speaker 1>in uh Lulin rouge in Paris at the end of

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:31.080
<v Speaker 1>the And I included that one because I think it's

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 1>just such a delightful story, um, something you would never

0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:37.440
<v Speaker 1>ever expect to be going on in sort of high

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:41.160
<v Speaker 1>society Paris, but he was the most popular artist there

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:43.600
<v Speaker 1>for a very long time. And the other reason I

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 1>chose to include it is, you know, I think you know,

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:49.080
<v Speaker 1>you can sort of giggle over it. It's uh, you know,

0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:52.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of low brown humor, but it's something, uh, you know,

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:54.560
<v Speaker 1>the the gas inside of us that we produced, that

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:57.800
<v Speaker 1>people think about. You know, it's something kind of on

0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:00.600
<v Speaker 1>their mind, even if it's you know, we don't always

0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 1>talk about it in polite society. But there again, there's

0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of good science in there about what those

0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:08.960
<v Speaker 1>gases are, where they come from, how they affect us

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:11.480
<v Speaker 1>um and you can even get into other things, like

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 1>there was sort of a digression in there about uh,

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, communication and other things. Why do we communicate

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:23.280
<v Speaker 1>from one side of our digestive tract and not the

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 1>other side of it. There's really no reason things couldn't

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:28.400
<v Speaker 1>have evolved differently. So again, you can get into a

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:32.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of really interesting, cool science based on this story

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:34.000
<v Speaker 1>that on the surface of it might seem you know,

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 1>just amusing, but there's a lot of good stuff behind it.

0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Do we know of any animals that communicate through the

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 1>other end? I don't think we do. Do we There

0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 1>are some species of cod that they think, uh that

0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:48.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're obviously not the articulate speaking like human beings,

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:52.880
<v Speaker 1>but they seem to respond in some ways the bubbles

0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 1>that they release, so it's some sort of rudimentary communication

0:33:57.800 --> 0:34:00.280
<v Speaker 1>going on there. So yeah, there, there, there are tints.

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:02.720
<v Speaker 1>There are some animals. I do that with various dialects.

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:05.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that's right. Were there any other facts in

0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:09.239
<v Speaker 1>your research that you found equally just mind blowing? I mean,

0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:12.359
<v Speaker 1>there's so many interesting things in this book, but any

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 1>facts where you you you walked away thinking that can't

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:19.359
<v Speaker 1>possibly be true. One fact that I really still kind

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 1>of blows my mind is the idea of what's called

0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:27.280
<v Speaker 1>the oxygen catastrophe. So nowadays we think about oxygen obviously

0:34:27.360 --> 0:34:29.800
<v Speaker 1>as vitals or life. It's very important for life. We

0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 1>would all die if there was an oxygen in the air.

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:36.839
<v Speaker 1>But for most preachers who have ever lived on planet Earth,

0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:42.680
<v Speaker 1>especially microbes, oxygen is a deadly poison, and oxygen actually

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 1>caused probably the greatest mass extinction in the history of

0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Earth because it was a pollutant. It was a very

0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:55.759
<v Speaker 1>reactive molecule. Most microbes back a few billion years ago,

0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:59.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't want it around, so they would expel it. Eventually

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 1>it built up in the air to such a degree

0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:05.239
<v Speaker 1>that it started killing them off. So again, one of

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:08.920
<v Speaker 1>the greatest mass extinctions in history was driven by something

0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:13.279
<v Speaker 1>that we considers absolutely vital to life nowadays. So it

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:17.239
<v Speaker 1>really gives changes your perspective on what this gas is,

0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:19.680
<v Speaker 1>what the air has been over time, and how it

0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 1>really has evolved been changed. Yeah, yeah, wow, that is fascinating.

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:26.399
<v Speaker 1>So we've got a terrible quiz to play with Sam today.

0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:29.400
<v Speaker 1>What's the quiz called. We've got a pop quiz called

0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:32.640
<v Speaker 1>It's elemental. Okay, that's right, And so when Mango says

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:35.360
<v Speaker 1>pop quiz, he means pop culture quiz and it should

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:38.760
<v Speaker 1>be fun. So every question we've included the chemical symbol

0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:43.480
<v Speaker 1>for an element. So we'll get started if you're ready, Sam, Okay,

0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:47.319
<v Speaker 1>all right. Question number one, This lead singer for the

0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:50.600
<v Speaker 1>band Queen could have been known as Freddie h G.

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Who is this must be Freddie Mercury? It is question

0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:58.440
<v Speaker 1>number two. This magician who made the Statue of Liberty

0:35:58.480 --> 0:36:04.839
<v Speaker 1>disappear could be known as David see you Field, all right,

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:08.200
<v Speaker 1>he's a genius. Number three, that's talking about Sami genius,

0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 1>not David Copperfield. I don't know if he's pretty smart. Yeah.

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Number three, when he was hankering for a late night sandwich,

0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Elvis used to fly his jet out to Colorado to

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:21.000
<v Speaker 1>get a peanut butter and jelly with bacon sandwich, also

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:27.040
<v Speaker 1>known as fools a you fools gold you must have

0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:29.360
<v Speaker 1>called it. I love that story, but I didn't know

0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:31.839
<v Speaker 1>he called it, had a special name for it. Right.

0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:33.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad we're teaching you a couple of things too,

0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 1>equally important alright. Number four, This Belgian comic book journalist

0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:42.480
<v Speaker 1>and his dogs Snowy, raced around the world solving mysteries elementally.

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 1>You'd known him, you'd know him better as s N

0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:52.479
<v Speaker 1>s N. Alright, Another very important one here, Number five.

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:55.799
<v Speaker 1>Calling this Canadian rock band in I back wouldn't have

0:36:55.840 --> 0:37:01.759
<v Speaker 1>made their music sound any better Nickel. Okay, all right,

0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 1>let's do one more. Winston Churchill's speech about this cold

0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:08.640
<v Speaker 1>word boundary could have been called the fe Curtain speech.

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:14.440
<v Speaker 1>What are we talking about? You must be the Iron curtain. Dazed.

0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:17.480
<v Speaker 1>I was kind of dreading anything related to pop culture,

0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 1>but well, you nailed it. How did you do? Sam?

0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:24.839
<v Speaker 1>When astounding six or six which earns them are hard

0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:28.799
<v Speaker 1>earned admiration. Alright, congratulations, Sam, did you did great? See

0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:30.759
<v Speaker 1>there was nothing to be stressed about there. So I

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:35.320
<v Speaker 1>hope everyone will check out Sam's latest book, Caesar's Last Breath.

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:37.200
<v Speaker 1>I know you will enjoy it just as much as

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<v Speaker 1>we did. Sam. Thanks so much for writing a terrific

0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 1>book and for being a guest on Part Time Genius.

0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:43.640
<v Speaker 1>All right, well, thanks for having me. It was fun.

0:37:57.160 --> 0:37:59.200
<v Speaker 1>So we were talking about the incredible gas power we

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:02.840
<v Speaker 1>see expressed an explosive compounds like dynamite. But will you

0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 1>were telling us when ended up happening with Nobel. Well,

0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:08.719
<v Speaker 1>as you know, Nobel made a fortune off of dynamite

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 1>and it was the equivalent of a quarter billion dollars today.

0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:15.080
<v Speaker 1>And that was all from tunneling projects and subway construction.

0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:17.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that was part of it. But his manufacturers

0:38:17.400 --> 0:38:20.600
<v Speaker 1>started to see the potential of nitro for new deadlier

0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 1>weapons like bombs and land mines. Nobel became famous all

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:27.680
<v Speaker 1>over again as a merchant of death. He was rich

0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:31.040
<v Speaker 1>and successful, but ultimately miserable because of how hated he

0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:33.200
<v Speaker 1>was seeing in the public eye. Right, so I'm guessing

0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:36.359
<v Speaker 1>the prizes were this form of penance exactly. I mean

0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:38.640
<v Speaker 1>he took his dynamite money and set up a prize

0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:43.320
<v Speaker 1>fund for chemistry, physics, medicine, literature, and lastly, of course,

0:38:43.360 --> 0:38:45.600
<v Speaker 1>for peace. I mean it was his way of making

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:48.360
<v Speaker 1>amends for all the suffering he caused while salvaging his

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:51.279
<v Speaker 1>reputation at the same time. Well, it might just be

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:53.959
<v Speaker 1>like the best long tail pr move in history, because

0:38:54.080 --> 0:38:56.960
<v Speaker 1>most people remember him for the prizes, and if you were,

0:38:57.000 --> 0:39:00.640
<v Speaker 1>people remember him for that floating death bar. That's true,

0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:03.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, for all his success is poor. Alfred Nobel

0:39:03.320 --> 0:39:06.760
<v Speaker 1>certainly experienced plenty of anguish from the damage gases can cause.

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:09.799
<v Speaker 1>But there are also some parts of human psychology that

0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:12.839
<v Speaker 1>are directly affected by our need for air. And that's

0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:14.799
<v Speaker 1>actually one of the things I found most interesting in

0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Sam's book. He talks about the reason why gas attacks

0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:20.839
<v Speaker 1>are so frightening and appalling to us, and he ends

0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:23.239
<v Speaker 1>up concluding that it's because gases have the power to

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:26.480
<v Speaker 1>attack our basic biology on a level that things like

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:29.880
<v Speaker 1>blades and bullets just can't match. When our air supply

0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:32.520
<v Speaker 1>has threatened, humans tend to freak out. I mean, we

0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:35.400
<v Speaker 1>seem to have a fear of poisonous air that's hardwired

0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:38.120
<v Speaker 1>into our brains, and when it's triggered, you know, all

0:39:38.280 --> 0:39:41.120
<v Speaker 1>rational behavior goes right out the window, and our instincts

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 1>tend to take over. Yes, some researchers now think humans

0:39:43.960 --> 0:39:47.319
<v Speaker 1>have a second, independent fear system that deals exclusively with

0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:50.560
<v Speaker 1>monitoring our air supply. So even though we don't consciously

0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:53.839
<v Speaker 1>focus on our breathing, deep down we're always anxious about it.

0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:56.000
<v Speaker 1>We know how much we need air to survive, and

0:39:56.280 --> 0:39:59.160
<v Speaker 1>we also know how quickly too much or too little

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:01.759
<v Speaker 1>of its properties can wipe us out. But you know,

0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:03.840
<v Speaker 1>if we're going to talk about dangerous air, we should

0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:06.880
<v Speaker 1>probably talk a little bit about nuclear blasts, do we

0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 1>have to? I mean just a little so unlike regular explosives,

0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 1>that gas molecules released into the atmosphere continue to do

0:40:13.280 --> 0:40:16.600
<v Speaker 1>harm long after the initial blast. And that's actually where

0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:19.480
<v Speaker 1>we get this term fallout from the radioactive leftovers that

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:22.760
<v Speaker 1>gets shot up into the upper atmosphere before they fall

0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:25.720
<v Speaker 1>out of the sky and rain down on unsuspecting victims,

0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:28.880
<v Speaker 1>which is actually fascinating, but I find the topic so depressing,

0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Like the fallowout creates some of the most toxic air imaginable,

0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:35.520
<v Speaker 1>the kind that can ruin food and water supplies and

0:40:35.840 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 1>causes widespread cases of fast acting cancers and other maladies.

0:40:40.320 --> 0:40:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Part of the reason fallout is so dangerous is that

0:40:42.480 --> 0:40:44.880
<v Speaker 1>there aren't a whole lot of ways to protect against

0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:48.239
<v Speaker 1>something as pervasive as the air itself, And like we

0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:50.959
<v Speaker 1>were saying in the beginning, it's all fluid, as sam

0:40:51.080 --> 0:40:55.080
<v Speaker 1>Keen rights. By the early nineteen sixties, radioactive atoms from

0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:58.760
<v Speaker 1>both Soviet and American tests had seated every last square

0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:02.680
<v Speaker 1>inch on Earth. Even penguins and Antarctica had been exposed. Well,

0:41:02.880 --> 0:41:07.240
<v Speaker 1>just like with everything else, radioactivity is safest and moderation followed.

0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Is most dangerous in regions that are fairly close to

0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:12.440
<v Speaker 1>nuclear strike zones. But for the average person, the amount

0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:15.800
<v Speaker 1>of radioactive gases we breathe in from atomic weapons testing

0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:18.640
<v Speaker 1>each year is pretty negligible. It's actually less than the

0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:21.799
<v Speaker 1>radiation we receive from a single X ray, which makes

0:41:21.800 --> 0:41:24.279
<v Speaker 1>me feel a little better, especially because it gives me

0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:26.920
<v Speaker 1>the perfect opening to talk about the surprising truth of

0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:30.960
<v Speaker 1>banana radiation. You guys have no idea how much Mango

0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 1>likes to talk about banana facts. But but what's this one?

0:41:33.800 --> 0:41:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Banana facts are the best facts. But I promised this

0:41:37.480 --> 0:41:40.360
<v Speaker 1>one's good. So you probably already know that. Plenty of

0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:43.160
<v Speaker 1>things we interact with on a daily basis, even many

0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 1>of the ones we ingest are chalk full of radioactive molecules. Sure,

0:41:47.280 --> 0:41:50.840
<v Speaker 1>so I know brazil nuts, coffee, red meat, even things

0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:55.120
<v Speaker 1>like cat litter and granite countertops have trace amounts. But bananas, Yeah,

0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:59.280
<v Speaker 1>So here's what's weird. Like bananas are actually the gold standard.

0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:02.640
<v Speaker 1>SIGNED has actually compared the radio activity of other ordinary

0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:06.720
<v Speaker 1>objects to bananas, and the amount of radioactive potassium forty

0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:10.279
<v Speaker 1>found in banana is known among nuclear scientists as the

0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:14.319
<v Speaker 1>b D or banana equivalent. Does have a hard time

0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:16.200
<v Speaker 1>believing that, but I'm gonna take your word for it.

0:42:16.239 --> 0:42:19.760
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty ridiculous. I'm guessing beds of radiation aren't anything

0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:21.719
<v Speaker 1>to worry about them, Well, not as long as you

0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:25.840
<v Speaker 1>monitor your banana intake. There are cases of large banana

0:42:25.880 --> 0:42:29.279
<v Speaker 1>shipments setting off the radiation detectors at some seaports, but

0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:32.120
<v Speaker 1>that's just because there's so many beds in one place.

0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:35.840
<v Speaker 1>For human to contract banana induced radiation poisoning, you'd have

0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:39.279
<v Speaker 1>to scarf down about twenty million of them. All right, quick,

0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:45.439
<v Speaker 1>what's your favorite banana related food item? Uh? Banana? Now?

0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:48.319
<v Speaker 1>And laters? Maybe banana? I was thinking, like a real

0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:54.200
<v Speaker 1>thing like peanut butter and banana, think of anything banana? Banana?

0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Runts like, what else is banana? Blanana? Laffy taffy obviously

0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:01.720
<v Speaker 1>the answer, but so so I'm guess we're safe. Well

0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:04.680
<v Speaker 1>to clarify, I like bananas, but I don't like banana

0:43:04.719 --> 0:43:08.400
<v Speaker 1>flavor thing. Okay, good, But let's recap a little. So

0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:12.439
<v Speaker 1>we've examined the longevity, permeability, and speed of air, it's

0:43:12.560 --> 0:43:15.720
<v Speaker 1>usefulness in achieving the dream of flight and even helping

0:43:15.719 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 1>people escape places like East Berlin, which is less of

0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:21.040
<v Speaker 1>a problem today. And we also talked about the force

0:43:21.160 --> 0:43:23.960
<v Speaker 1>that wheels to keep us humans in line and its

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:27.560
<v Speaker 1>propensity for causing damage both physical and mental. But there's

0:43:27.640 --> 0:43:30.839
<v Speaker 1>one last aspect of air I'd like to demonstrate, all right,

0:43:30.880 --> 0:43:34.120
<v Speaker 1>what's that? The power of its facts? Remember that air

0:43:34.160 --> 0:43:36.880
<v Speaker 1>hockey fact I couldn't quite fit into the episode Prepared

0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:39.160
<v Speaker 1>to be blown away in the part time genius fact off.

0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:51.080
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's see what you got yah yah. So

0:43:51.160 --> 0:43:54.680
<v Speaker 1>this is from two six, but I love it so much. Basically,

0:43:54.719 --> 0:43:57.759
<v Speaker 1>some students created a virtual air hockey game. You have

0:43:57.880 --> 0:44:00.440
<v Speaker 1>half an air hockey table and a videos green with

0:44:00.520 --> 0:44:02.719
<v Speaker 1>someone on the other side. It could be anywhere, like

0:44:02.760 --> 0:44:05.239
<v Speaker 1>in Russia or wherever, and when you hit the puck,

0:44:05.600 --> 0:44:08.359
<v Speaker 1>the table actually calculates how you hit it and at

0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:10.919
<v Speaker 1>one angle and it spits it out on the other

0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:13.520
<v Speaker 1>side of the world, which, as someone who grew up

0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:15.960
<v Speaker 1>with a sister who rarely wanted to play sports with me,

0:44:16.440 --> 0:44:18.880
<v Speaker 1>to always be able to find a table, tennis partner

0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 1>or whatever across the globe for a game is sort

0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:24.160
<v Speaker 1>of incredible. That is pretty awesome. So here's one about

0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:27.040
<v Speaker 1>black umbrellas and how they became the standard. Did you

0:44:27.080 --> 0:44:29.879
<v Speaker 1>know that excessive coal burning in the seventeen hundreds caused

0:44:29.920 --> 0:44:33.320
<v Speaker 1>an inky rain in London? So the black umbrella protected

0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:36.759
<v Speaker 1>you from pollutants without looking disgusting. Actually, have you heard

0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:39.560
<v Speaker 1>about that company Air Inc. So an M. I. T.

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:42.359
<v Speaker 1>Scientist was in India when you realized the soot and

0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:44.920
<v Speaker 1>pollution in the air was actually making smudges on his

0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:47.520
<v Speaker 1>white shirt. So he came up with a novel idea,

0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:50.520
<v Speaker 1>why not use it to replace the carbon black and printers.

0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:54.600
<v Speaker 1>His company actually harvests the straight from the tailpipes of trucks,

0:44:54.960 --> 0:44:57.680
<v Speaker 1>and it's now helping to clean the air while putting

0:44:57.680 --> 0:45:01.200
<v Speaker 1>that pollutant into safe markers and paints that actually, apparently

0:45:01.320 --> 0:45:04.319
<v Speaker 1>artists really dig. That's pretty awesome, all right. Here's one

0:45:04.360 --> 0:45:07.560
<v Speaker 1>about whales. Scientists have long wondered why they leap into

0:45:07.600 --> 0:45:10.400
<v Speaker 1>the air and breach when it exerts so much energy

0:45:10.440 --> 0:45:13.360
<v Speaker 1>to do this, and it turns out it's a communication trick.

0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Often the behavior happens when whales are traveling in a

0:45:16.200 --> 0:45:19.480
<v Speaker 1>pod and get separated. While whales have songs and other

0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:22.880
<v Speaker 1>ways to communicate over very long distances, flopping is an

0:45:22.880 --> 0:45:25.240
<v Speaker 1>easy way to get another whale's attention in a closer

0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:27.960
<v Speaker 1>range or in places where there's a lot of competing noise.

0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:31.399
<v Speaker 1>As one scientist told Quartz, it's akin to a really

0:45:31.480 --> 0:45:33.719
<v Speaker 1>keen kid in a classroom jumping up and down and

0:45:33.760 --> 0:45:38.560
<v Speaker 1>waving his hands. Really keen kids and classrooms, right, which

0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:41.440
<v Speaker 1>is pretty awesome. Uh Okay, so this one's about the

0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:43.799
<v Speaker 1>fresh Prince of l Air. Well. First off, did you

0:45:43.840 --> 0:45:47.160
<v Speaker 1>know that that New Yorker writer Andy Borrowitz actually wrote

0:45:47.160 --> 0:45:49.600
<v Speaker 1>the pilot for the show. I didn't, so He told

0:45:49.640 --> 0:45:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Complex magazine that the Spoiled Hillary character was based on

0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Quincy jones daughters, or, more specifically, the phone messages they

0:45:57.640 --> 0:45:59.640
<v Speaker 1>used to leave for him while they were at summer camp.

0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:03.239
<v Speaker 1>And one message that Quincy played for Borrowitz said, Dad,

0:46:03.440 --> 0:46:08.319
<v Speaker 1>the water here sucks. Please FedEx avien. Al Right, this

0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:10.239
<v Speaker 1>doesn't actually have anything to do with air, but it's

0:46:10.239 --> 0:46:12.200
<v Speaker 1>too good not to share. It came up when I

0:46:12.239 --> 0:46:14.840
<v Speaker 1>was looking in the ways to clean the environment. Apparently

0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:17.359
<v Speaker 1>this woman in Cleveland, Susan Warren, came to be known

0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:20.120
<v Speaker 1>as the Cleaning Fairy because she would randomly break into

0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:24.040
<v Speaker 1>people's homes, clean them, and then leave. It was apparently

0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:26.480
<v Speaker 1>her way of drumming up business. But cops, could you know.

0:46:26.520 --> 0:46:28.439
<v Speaker 1>Of course, they didn't take kindly to this, so she's

0:46:28.440 --> 0:46:30.959
<v Speaker 1>been arrested twice for it. Oh man, that's so good.

0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:34.640
<v Speaker 1>I had one about this, uh the Helsinki University of Technology,

0:46:34.640 --> 0:46:37.440
<v Speaker 1>which actually created a functional air guitar, like you wear

0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:40.479
<v Speaker 1>colored gloves and a camera watches your movements and turns

0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:43.400
<v Speaker 1>into a real live instrument, which is awesome. But I

0:46:43.400 --> 0:46:45.880
<v Speaker 1>actually really love that cleaning Fairy story. All right, well,

0:46:45.920 --> 0:46:48.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll take it. Well, thanks to Sam Kane, whose book

0:46:48.080 --> 0:46:50.640
<v Speaker 1>we leaned on heavily for this episode. Yeah, the book

0:46:50.680 --> 0:46:53.360
<v Speaker 1>is jam packed with incredible stories, from the shocking and

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<v Speaker 1>amazing tale of scientists collecting ammonia from the air to

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<v Speaker 1>why plants actually respond to anesthesias seriously. Venus flycrafs reflexes

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<v Speaker 1>get all slow and boozy when they're put under. So

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<v Speaker 1>please go out and get Caesar's breath. When you get

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<v Speaker 1>a sec it'll blow your mind. And that's it for

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<v Speaker 1>today's episode. Thanks again for listening. By the way, have

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<v Speaker 1>you heard about the Japanese dio drinkum? Apparently you chew

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<v Speaker 1>it and it makes your bio smell like flowers, which

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<v Speaker 1>is crazy. Thanks again for listening. Part Time Genius is

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<v Speaker 1>a production of how stuff works and wouldn't be possible

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<v Speaker 1>without several brilliant people who do the important things we

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't even begin to understand. CHRISTA McNeil does the editing thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Noel Brown made the theme song and does the MIXI

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<v Speaker 1>mixy sound thing. Gary Roland does the exact producer thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Gay Bluesier is our lead researcher, with support from the

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<v Speaker 1>Research Army including Austin Thompson, Nolan Brown and Lucas Adams

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<v Speaker 1>and Eves. Jeff Cook gets the show to your ears.

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<v Speaker 1>Good job, Eves. If you like what you heard, we

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<v Speaker 1>for us. Do we do we forget Jason? Jason who