1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobelt Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: Welcome to the program today. We're on every day from 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 2: one until four o'clock. Then after four o'clock it's John 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: Cobelt Show on demand on the iHeart app. It's the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 2: podcast same as the radio show, and you could listen 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 2: to what you missed. I urge you very much if 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 2: you're just joining us that later on download the one 9 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 2: o'clock hour for the podcast. And we did an interview 10 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: with Nick Gerda. He's a watchdog correspondent at the public 11 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: radio station Last who broke an unbelievable story about the 12 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 2: head of the Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority LASA. The 13 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: two whistleblowers telling the truth about what's going on. This 14 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 2: angered Valisia Kellem's Valicia Adams Kellum, the head of LASSA. 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: They paid the whistle blowers eight hundred thousand dollars to 16 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: go away, but by law we get to hear what's 17 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 2: in there, what's in their claims, We get to understand 18 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 2: what the charges are, and the charges are pretty detailed, 19 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: involving hiring friends and paying high salaries withholding data about 20 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: the failures of Karen Bass's Inside Safe program, inappropriate unethical 21 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 2: behavior by Adams Kellen Kellum at a conference in Washington, 22 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: d C. And how she wanted to spend desperately public 23 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: money on an open bar at Lassa's holiday party and 24 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 2: got angry when she was told you can't spend tax 25 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: money on an open bar. It sounds like LASA has 26 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 2: been run by a Luna tick. Now she's finally on 27 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: her way out. In case you're wondering where the two 28 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: billion dollars that's missing, where it might where it might 29 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: have gone. I think there are some clues here. Just 30 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: connect the dots. Hasn't done anything for the homeless in 31 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: the streets, and we know they're lying about Inside Safe, 32 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: and we know that they're already had of money for 33 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: that program, and they have blown so much money on 34 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: homelessness that now they're cutting money from all the other 35 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: departments in the city. There's sixteen hundred people being laid off. 36 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: And where's the money going? Because Adams Callum wanted to 37 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: tie one on at a holiday party, how much is 38 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: gone for booze? How many times does she want taxpayer 39 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: money to pay for booze? And she wasn't talked down 40 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: now in an alter universe. Can you imagine if we 41 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: didn't have this crew of mental patients and criminals and 42 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: grifters running everything, whether it's city Hall, city council, Las, 43 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: the DWP, all of this, the fire department. It is 44 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: run by people who look like they escape from a 45 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: mental institution. None of these people are qualified, None of 46 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: these people know what they're doing, and they don't care 47 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 2: because they're raking it big money and they don't care 48 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: that the city has gone to hell. 49 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter to them. 50 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: So Rick Caruso, who is one of the most successful 51 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: people in the city of Los Angeles. He owns all 52 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: these great shopping centers. Millions and millions of people have 53 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: wonderful experiences every day going to his properties. He ran 54 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 2: for mayor and inexplicably, the majority pick Karen Bass. It'll 55 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: go down as one of the stupidest decisions ever in 56 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 2: the history of the City of Los Angeles. Because maybe 57 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: some elections it's inconsequential who wins. 58 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: This was a big one. 59 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 2: I guarantee you, Palace the Palisades fire would not have 60 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: played out the way it did if for Caruso is 61 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: in charge. He has set up steadfast La dot com. 62 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 2: This is a public private partnership to try to dramatically 63 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: streamline the rebuilding price sas you want to learn all 64 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: the details steadfast la dot com. I don't want to 65 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: get into all that here. But he's really trying to 66 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: do a good thing. He's not taking any money for it. 67 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: He's not like Steve Sobroth, who wanted a half billion 68 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: dollars and ultimately did nothing well. Chris is in a 69 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:22,799 Speaker 2: funny position because he's certainly thinking about running for mayor 70 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six, and they're certainly huge numbers of 71 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: people that would like him to run. But he wants 72 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: to see through steadfast LA and so he doesn't want 73 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: to make all his public pronouncements about steadfast La. He 74 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: doesn't want to make it sound political, right, because then 75 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: people will dismiss. 76 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: Or Bass's crowd will have an excuse to. 77 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: Dismiss and say, well, that's just a political statement, that's 78 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: just partisanship there, that's it. So you know, he's trying 79 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: to thread the needle. He's appeared with Bass. They've said 80 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 2: neutral things, you know, at some event where they're we're 81 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 2: talking about some progress to be made in the fire, 82 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 2: but he has been trying really hard to break through 83 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 2: the bureaucracy and the red tape. And according to what 84 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: he wrote today, it is a fifty foot steel reinforced wall. 85 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: Nobody of any importance in the city is cooperating very much. 86 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 2: And when we come back, I'm going to want to 87 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 2: play a clip of what he announced, so you got 88 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: the idea of what kind of projects he wants to 89 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: embrace to help people, Just to help all the people suffering. 90 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 2: Got thousands of people suffering, not only in Palisdays but 91 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: in Altadena, and Gavin Newsom is even on board and 92 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 2: bass and city council brick walls. Maybe they're too busy 93 00:05:55,640 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: counting their money. So I'm going to play you that clip, 94 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: and then I'm going to read to you parts of 95 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: his op ed piece he wrote, which is at steadfast 96 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: la dot com. And you could understand the incredible frustration 97 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 2: that the people in the Palisades are going through and 98 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: the people in Altadena are going through similarly with the county, 99 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: and and something's got to give here. We just can't 100 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 2: go on like this. That's coming up next. 101 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelt on Demand from KFI AM 102 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:30,119 Speaker 3: six forty. 103 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm going to play quickly this Rick Caruso 104 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 2: Instagram post from week or two ago where he's laying 105 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: out this this new tool that he and Governor News 106 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 2: have supported it that's going to dramatically streamline the rebuilding 107 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: process for people in the Palisades and Altadena. So listen 108 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 2: to how he speaks, Listen to the detail here and 109 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: what he's trying to do. 110 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 4: Let me tell you what isn't working. What isn't working 111 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 4: is the amount of time it takes to plan check 112 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 4: plans people can rebuild their homes or repair them. Let 113 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 4: me tell you what is working. Public private partnerships. Steadfast 114 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 4: LA came up with a big idea that we're going 115 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 4: to go to the best and the brightest in the 116 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 4: tech industry develop an AI model that will quickly process 117 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 4: your plans and approve them in the city of Los 118 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 4: Angeles and the county. That's going to get you in 119 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 4: your homes faster and a lot less expensive. It's going 120 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 4: to save a lot of money. I want to give 121 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 4: a big shout out in thanks to Mike Hopkins of Amazon, 122 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 4: to Arkasar who came together and created this concortible AI 123 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 4: application that we're going to be using. And another big 124 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 4: shout out to Gavin Newsom for his leadership and pushing 125 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 4: this along, owning it and making sure it gets adopted 126 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 4: by the city and by the county. And again when 127 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 4: you see this, it is so cool. But it's right 128 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 4: in line what steadfast LA does. We're all about getting 129 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 4: you back home and getting you back home quickly. 130 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: Have a good night. 131 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 2: Steadfast La dot com. You can go read about it yourself. 132 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 2: And it's the nonprofit. He's not taken a salary, and 133 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: it's to expedite the rebuilding process and how he described 134 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 2: and Newsom's actually been helpful. Now here's what Caruso wrote today, 135 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: because who hasn't been helpful is Karen Bass and the 136 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 2: rest of the impenetrable city government. So he wrote an 137 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: op ed today entitled We're at a Tipping Point and 138 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: he writes, nearly four months to the day since wildfires 139 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: ripped through four communities, our city, Los Angeles continues to 140 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 2: suffer from failing leadership, and he takes issue with Bass 141 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 2: constantly saying this is the fastest recovery in modern California history. 142 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 2: He says that's like comparing apples to monkey wrenches. Because 143 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 2: the cost of the palisades and eaten fires and outa 144 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: dina maybe fifteen times times more than say the campfire 145 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: up in Paradise, and these fires destroyed fifteen thousand more 146 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 2: structures than the Woolsey fire up in Ventura County, and 147 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: rebuilding is still going on in Paradise in Ventora County 148 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: after six years. This can't be the barometer for our success. 149 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 2: We can't measure the response against past disasters. Rather than conducting, 150 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: what is really needed a clear eyed assessment of where 151 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 2: the mistakes were. We're management failed. Who are we talking 152 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 2: about here? Talking about Bass, talking about Kristin Crowley ran 153 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 2: the fire department, Genie Kinoniez, who still runs the DWP, 154 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: the city council ally county supervisor. He writes how a 155 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: better process can be can be created so hard listed 156 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: lessons can be learned. We need to be forward looking, 157 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: reimagine the city's respond in a way that disaster recovery 158 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 2: has never been done before, a focus on creativity, innovation, 159 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 2: and transparency and accountability. In La we have the best 160 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 2: and brightest companies, executives and workers of anywhere in the world. 161 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 2: They're all eager to contribute, but instead of embracing this 162 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 2: invaluable resource as the X factor that can make our 163 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 2: recovery both different and better, the city read Karen Bass, 164 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 2: has shunned it. Caruso says, they don't return calls. There 165 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 2: hasn't been an effort to proactively engage. There are no 166 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: signs that the city wants to leverage this wealth of 167 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 2: knowledge and ideas to drive the response, even though it's 168 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 2: impossible to execute a rebuild of this size without the 169 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 2: private sector taking a significant portion of off the government's plate. 170 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 1: See you hear that Bass is providing nothing. They don't 171 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: return calls. 172 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: There hasn't been an effort to engage, no signs that 173 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 2: they want to use all the wealth they have here 174 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: in the private sector, all the companies, all the experience, 175 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 2: all the money, all the expertise, And he talks about 176 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: this AI, this AI innovation that he discussed in that 177 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 2: tape we played. Only when the state Kevin Newsom got involved, 178 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 2: did the city express openness to adopting an AI software 179 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 2: centric model developed and funded by best in class private 180 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 2: sector companies that will reduce costs and allow the permitting process, 181 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 2: which is a huge pinch point in rebuilding, so it 182 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 2: takes only hours or days instead of weeks and months. 183 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: So Caruso and his associates want to use AI. 184 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 2: To drastically speed up the permitting process, and the. 185 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: City is not engaged. 186 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 2: They won't return a phone call Newsom is pushing them. 187 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 2: Despite this step forward, meaning when Newsom and the state 188 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 2: got involved, we still have no answers on when the 189 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 2: city will formally make this model available to those who 190 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: want to rebuild. The city has claimed that over a 191 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: thousand properties have been cleared, but only thirty one permits 192 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 2: have been issued thirty one, and they are not offering 193 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 2: real time updates so the public can see how many 194 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 2: permits are being issued and they get this. This veil 195 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 2: of secrecy extends to the Chief Recovery Officer position. There 196 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 2: is still no guidance about who inside the city is 197 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 2: dedicated to overseeing the recovery strategy. They don't have anybody 198 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 2: in Los Angeles City Hall in charge of the recovery. 199 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 2: The job is vacant almost a month. 200 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: They don't know. 201 00:12:54,400 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: He says, there's no indication will be filled, what qualifications 202 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,119 Speaker 2: are being considered. The first go around with Steve Soberoff 203 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 2: was an epic debacle. Based on his comments out the door, 204 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 2: the city refuses to offer the public any voice in 205 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 2: the hiring process. There's also the role of Haggarty consulting 206 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 2: the taxpayer funded disaster recovery firm that they allocated ten 207 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 2: million dollars to. So far, Haggarty hasn't provided any clarity. 208 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: They're not sharing any details about what they're doing. Why 209 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 2: is the city so hesitant to communicate how this process 210 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 2: being managed? Who's in charge? Instead of having to plead 211 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 2: for answers, there should be a daily effort to provide 212 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 2: real time updates about what is happening. We need a 213 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 2: public permitting dashboard with updated metrics. All the agreements the 214 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 2: city makes should be disclosed immediately. There should be weekly 215 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: performance audits and reports about the work of these groups. 216 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 2: This lack of transparency is compounded by a stubborn refue 217 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: use to take accountability into why the fires were so disastrous. 218 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: Crusoe writes, we learned this week that city officials at 219 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power knew there 220 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 2: would be a month's long water supply shortage as the 221 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: scent in as reservoirs being repaired, but they did not 222 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: take action to put the Pacific Palisades Reservoir back online 223 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 2: to prepare for a potential disaster that six million gallons 224 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 2: of water the city did not have access at a 225 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: time when it was most needed. Yeah, six million gallons 226 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 2: on top of what was missing from the other reservoir, 227 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: which was over one hundred million gallons. Despite this catastrop trafphics, 228 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: Despite this catastrophic failure, the LEDWP head Genese Quinonius, remains 229 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 2: in her position and the city has made no moves 230 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 2: to rectify such gross incompetence that directly contributed to families 231 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 2: losing everything. The city must change course now, and there's 232 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: more to it, but I mean, this is everything he 233 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 2: said is true, and the whole process is paralyzed. Thirty 234 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 2: one permits in one hundred and twenty days. I don't 235 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: know what's going on without the DINA because the county government, 236 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 2: there is no better. You get run by the stupid, 237 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: you get stupid outcomes. You get run by smart talented people. 238 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 2: You get smart talented outcomes. Keep voting the way you're voting. 239 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: It's working out real well. When we come back. I 240 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 2: found this next story fascinating. It's also really creepy when 241 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 2: I play it. There is a man in Arizona who 242 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 2: is murdered road rage and they caught the guy. He 243 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 2: was convicted on a trial, and you know they have 244 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 2: a victim impact statement. Well, Chris Pelkey was the guy's 245 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 2: name who was killed. His family used AI to recreate 246 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 2: his voice so he could give his own victim impact statement. 247 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, we'll play you a clip of his 248 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: We'll play you the whole news story. We'll play a 249 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 2: clip of his real voice, and then play you his 250 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 2: AI voice. It's really fascinating and gives you a I 251 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: got a chill too. Yeah, I'm thinking, oh, this world 252 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 2: is going to be much different very soon. 253 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI AM 254 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: six forty. 255 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 2: Around from one to four after four o'clock. If you 256 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 2: missed anything, go to the podcast John Cobelt's show on demand. 257 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 2: You want to hear our number one big expose by 258 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 2: Public Radio last on the woman the nutbag that runs 259 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 2: the Los Angeles homeless services authority. 260 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: You listen in the one o'clock hour. 261 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: Maybe we'll talk a little more about that later, but 262 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 2: right now, I want you to I want you to 263 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: hear this story. 264 00:16:58,760 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: This is from. 265 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 2: ABC fifteen in Arizona, a reporter named Jordan Bontkey. This 266 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 2: is about a family. One of their family members, Chris Pelke, 267 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 2: was killed in a road rage incident, and that driver 268 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 2: was convicted. And you know there's a victim impact statement 269 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 2: in court. Well, in this case, the victim was dead. 270 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 2: So the family, because they have a lot of experience 271 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 2: with technology, created a program so that Chris Pelke could 272 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: give his own victim impact statement using an AI voice. 273 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 2: So we're going to play the whole cut, the whole story, 274 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: and then we're going to compare his real voice with 275 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 2: the AI voice. This really is quite stunning, So play 276 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 2: cut number one. 277 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 5: Stacey Wills has plenty to remember her little brother by. 278 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 6: This is his dress uniform. 279 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 5: But she'd trade it all to have Chris Pelke back. 280 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 6: Trying to make this come to life and to lift 281 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 6: him off the page in the best way that we 282 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 6: could that's available to us now. 283 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 5: Pelkey survived multiple overseas tours in the military, but back home. 284 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 5: In November of twenty twenty one, he was leaving a 285 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 5: church softball game when he was killed in a road 286 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 5: raid shooting at Jermaine and Gilbert Roads and Chandler. His 287 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 5: family endured a grueling legal process, two trials over three 288 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 5: and a half years. Last week, Gabriel Horksiitis was convicted 289 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 5: of manslaughter. Before sentencing, forty nine victim statements were shared. 290 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 5: Stacy spent two years working on hers. 291 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 6: All I kept coming back to was what would Chris say. 292 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 5: As a tech forward family, Stacy and her husband Tim 293 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 5: worked regularly with artificial intelligence, so Stacy suggested letting AI 294 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 5: generate a victim statement directly from the victim through modern 295 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 5: tech beyond the grave. 296 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 7: It became so real that I broke down in tears. 297 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 5: Tim prompted AI with old video audio and a good 298 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 5: photo of their brother. It took a few days. Their 299 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 5: victim HiT's attorney, Jessica Gottuso, was reluctant at first. Is 300 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 5: this even legal? 301 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 8: Our law in Arizona says that victims can give their 302 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 8: victim impact statement in any They have the discretion to 303 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 8: choose how they give their victim impact statement, and this 304 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 8: is how they chose to do so. 305 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 5: So yes, it's absolutely legal. Here's Chris in a real 306 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 5: recording before his death, just like Jesus says, you know, 307 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,959 Speaker 5: love God and love people. And here's the AI version 308 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 5: forgiving the shooter, scripted by Stacy. 309 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 7: It is a shame we encountered each other that day, 310 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 7: in those circumstances. In another life, we probably could have 311 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 7: been friends. I believe in forgiveness and in God who forgives. 312 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 7: I always have and I still do. I love that. 313 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 5: I thank you for the state asked for nine and 314 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 5: a half years. The judge gave ten and a half 315 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 5: for manslaughter. We asked the Arizona Supreme Court about the 316 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 5: general use of AI in courtrooms. Justice and Scott Timmer 317 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 5: said AI has great potential but also risks if misused. 318 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 5: For the Pelki family, they found justice and a measure 319 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 5: of peace, especially after one of Stacy's children reacted to 320 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 5: seeing uncle Chris one more time. 321 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 6: Mom and Dad, thank you so much for making that 322 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 6: I needed to hear from Uncle Chris one last time, 323 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 6: and that meant so much. 324 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 3: Thank you. 325 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 6: And that is not what this was intended to do. 326 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 6: But the result of having it be a healing piece 327 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 6: for anybody who saw it was just such a beneficial result. 328 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 2: And what you couldn't see is that they also recreated 329 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 2: Chris Pelke visually on the video, and then you heard 330 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 2: his voice speaking an apology that his sister thought was 331 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: consistent with how he looked at life. 332 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: Did I say apology? Yeah? 333 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 2: Sorry, you confused me. I'm sorry sorry that Chris Pelke forgave. 334 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 2: He forgave the killer in what he said. Let's let 335 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 2: me play it again. This is Chris Pelki's actual voice, just. 336 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 7: Like Jesus says, you know, love God and love people. 337 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 2: Okay, Now, this is the AI voice where he was 338 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 2: forgiving the guy who killed him. 339 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 7: It is a shame we encountered each other that day 340 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 7: in those circumstances. In another life, we probably could have 341 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 7: been friends. I believe in forgiveness and in God who forgives. 342 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 7: I always have and I still do. 343 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 2: And he's sitting there like the real kick, Chris Belki, 344 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: and talking just like him. 345 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: I don't know about that that is, but. 346 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 2: Just this family did it on their own. Now they're 347 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 2: in the technology field. I get that, but it seems 348 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 2: like this will be everywhere everybody everything. Nothing you see, 349 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 2: nothing you hear? 350 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 6: Okay, John, I'm going to just tell you that if 351 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 6: somebody kills me in a road rage accident and somebody 352 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 6: comes to you about doing. 353 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: AI, me, I'm not forgiving. I will not be saying 354 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: that truly noted. Thank you. Oh, I'd love to program 355 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: your AI. Yeah. It won't be nice like kids, that's 356 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: for sure. Can we get her to say she's had 357 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: a cheeseburger in her life? That's the first thing I 358 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 1: sawt of. John, I'd like a cheeseburger in the afterlife 359 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: if we go to In and Out. Don't get me 360 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: fries this time, right, get me the double burger. 361 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 9: NBC is going to be creating an AI voice of 362 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 9: somebody that passed away for the NBA when they get 363 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 9: the rights back next season. The narrator for NBA on NBC, 364 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 9: Jim Fagan. He passed away in twenty seventeen. He's coming back. 365 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 9: They're going to use AI to recreate his voice for 366 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 9: all of the promos. 367 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: We're all going to be out of jobs soon, I know, 368 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 2: or where we are going to live on forever. 369 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, knowing this company, well, my kids better get the money. 370 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 2: I have a feeling we don't control the use of 371 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 2: our voices after we're dead. So this John and Dever 372 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 2: thing could be going on for one hundred years. Wow, 373 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 2: just reworking everything that's already been recorded. 374 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobel on demand from KFII. 375 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 2: Coming up after Dever's news after three o'clock. The FBI 376 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 2: is investigating a terror attack by Jews, no against Jews, 377 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 2: excuse me, against Jews, by an illegal border crosser, and 378 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 2: the old FBI under Joe Biden wasn't interested. It was 379 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 2: an illegal alien from an Islamic country who shot and 380 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 2: wounded an Orthodox Jewish Man in a terrorism attack in Chicago, 381 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 2: and the FBI didn't want to investigate. Now they've taken 382 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 2: it over. Todd Bensman's going to talk about that. He's 383 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 2: in the Center from Immigration Studies national security fellow there 384 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 2: and he has done a tremendous job reporting on the 385 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 2: border and illegal immigration. And also about the guy, the 386 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: guy who wanted to commit a terrorism act at the 387 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 2: Lady Gaga concert in Brazil. He's a deported illgal alien 388 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 2: from the US. We got rid of him. He went 389 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 2: to Brazil and he was going to commit some terrorist 390 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 2: act with two and a half million people watching Lady Gaga. 391 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 2: These were really, really, really bad guys that were in 392 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 2: this country, and we spent much of the last week 393 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 2: talking about the Democrats in the Assembly of the perverts, 394 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 2: predators and pedophile caucus that was blocking a bill that 395 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 2: would make it a felony to buy sixteen or seventeen 396 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 2: year olds for sex. You've probably heard the whole drama. 397 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 2: I read everything. I read a lot of left wing 398 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 2: nuts to try to understand the way of thinking. The 399 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 2: biggest left wing nut now at the La Times is 400 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 2: a woman named Anita Chabria, and she writes these insane columns, 401 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: and it's all about the wonders of the progressive philosophy 402 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,479 Speaker 2: and the wonders of progressive politicians. I mean, I stopped 403 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 2: reading it for a while. I don't get upset with 404 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 2: other people's writings. It was just a waste of time. 405 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 2: It's just too stupid. But since she wrote something today 406 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 2: about the sex bill that we've been talking about all week, 407 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 2: I thought she tries to explain the reason why Democrats 408 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 2: have been blocking the automatic felony, but she says the 409 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 2: reason that they use is hard to follow. Now, then again, 410 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 2: this is a far left wing progressive writer saying that 411 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 2: she doesn't understand the argument that the Democrats are making 412 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 2: in the Assembly. She writes basically their argument goes, an 413 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: eighteen year old could buy taco bell or a vape 414 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 2: for a younger friend, and that could be considered a 415 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: felony solicitation if sexual acts ensued and she goes frankly, 416 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 2: I have trouble thinking prosecutors would file these charges. But 417 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 2: you never know. This is what they were selling. That 418 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 2: what if some guy what buys a girl a taco 419 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 2: Bell treat and then coerces her into sex, saying hey, 420 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 2: I bought you, I bought you a burrito, now you 421 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 2: owe me. Really, they're afraid there'd be prosecutions over this. Well, 422 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 2: I mean if he if he had sex with her 423 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 2: against her will. 424 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 8: That's. 425 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 5: No. 426 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 2: I think it's what Carl Demayo said. Carl Demayo said 427 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 2: there is a group of Democratic gay legislators, and Carl's 428 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 2: gay himself is a Republican. He said they've told him 429 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 2: that they think it's entirely natural for gay men to 430 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 2: engage in loving relationships with teenage boys down to the 431 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 2: age of fourteen, and that they don't think it's right 432 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 2: to impede upon that with laws, and he said that 433 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 2: was the impetus. Of course, nobody wants Carl saying this 434 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 2: out loud on radio and television, but nobody wants to 435 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 2: write about it. And he said, so that became that 436 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 2: became the focus of the Gay and Lesbian Caucus, and 437 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 2: so the rest of the Democrats just saluted and went 438 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 2: along with it, because that's the deal. There's certain caucuses 439 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 2: when they come up with some outrageous, absurd legislation, everybody 440 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 2: is just supposed to go along and not bitch about it. Caucus, 441 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 2: Latino Caucus, Gay and Lesbian Caucus. And he says, this 442 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 2: is not most gay men, far from it, but it's 443 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 2: a particular group in the legislature who pushed this sort 444 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 2: of thing. He says, that's the real reason. I don't 445 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,479 Speaker 2: think it's about trading sex for a taco. It doesn't 446 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 2: sound convincing to me. All Right, we come back. So, 447 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 2: there was an Orthodox Jewish man in Chicago who was 448 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 2: shot and wounded by an illegal alien from an Islamic country, 449 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 2: and the FBI was not interested in investigating. 450 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: Now that's changed with Trump taking over, but. 451 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 2: It's been declared a terror attack from an illegal alien, 452 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 2: first of its kind that one of these people formally charged. 453 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 2: Todd Bensman Center for Immigration Studies, who has done years 454 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 2: and years of incredibly good work as a journalist covering 455 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 2: illegal immigration and the order. He's gonna come come on 456 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 2: with us next to explain this story. Temper Mark is 457 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 2: live in the KFI twenty for our newsroom. Hey, you've 458 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 2: been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. You can 459 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 2: always hear the show live on KFI Am six forty 460 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 2: from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, and 461 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 2: of course, anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.