WEBVTT - What To Put In Your IFAK

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, everyone, welcome to the podcast. It could happen here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's me James today and I am joined for a

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<v Speaker 1>rare example of Danel being on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, welcome you, Danel, and James, thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thrilled to be here to talk with you on

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast that I edit every single day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, Normally you just hear me, but at this

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<v Speaker 1>time you get like the dan It's like the Subaltan speaks,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's Danel. I couldn't fucking I couldn't really go

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere with that, so I just I just left the

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<v Speaker 1>two halves of the joke out there, and either of

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<v Speaker 1>them with a partner A very sad. Yeah. So, Danel,

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<v Speaker 1>we're here today to talk about first Day Kits and

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<v Speaker 1>the reason we're talking about First Ay kits is because

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<v Speaker 1>it is Pride Month at the time of recording. That,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, in the United States means that people are

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<v Speaker 1>worried about being murdered by homophobic psychopaths. Unfortunately, so hmm,

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<v Speaker 1>that is that is the world that we live in,

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<v Speaker 1>and it shouldn't be. It's fucked up, and it hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>won't be this way forever because you know, all these

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<v Speaker 1>people are wrong and will die eventually and that will

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<v Speaker 1>make the world better. But fingers crossed, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we can, we can hope. I guess maybe they're raising

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<v Speaker 1>a new generation of Turfs or whatever. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>the hopefully not, let's not. Yeah. So I just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to talk because I've seen a bunch of people online,

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of people who are in the like

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<v Speaker 1>lgbt q I a community, or who are going to

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<v Speaker 1>pride just being like oh fuck like it. Genuinely, I

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<v Speaker 1>can see why people are very afraid right because violence

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<v Speaker 1>against queer people is at least seemingly increasing. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to give you training because this is a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>and you can't learn first aid on a podcast, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can't learn it on YouTube either. Really, I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to talk briefly about like supplies and then places to

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<v Speaker 1>get training, because that is very important. I have bought

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<v Speaker 1>my first ay kit that I used for work. I

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<v Speaker 1>have quite a few that I used for work. Actually

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like to repat them. And I know that

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<v Speaker 1>you have bought one that Jeffrey Bezos kindly sent you. Yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, at the at the height of the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the George Floyd protests, et cetera. I was out there

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<v Speaker 2>in the streets and kind of after observing what was

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<v Speaker 2>happening in Portland, and after you know, listening into and

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<v Speaker 2>editing it could happen to year episodes and you know

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<v Speaker 2>what what Gear and Robert were covering. It felt, if

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<v Speaker 2>not necessary, but very prudent to invest in something like

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<v Speaker 2>this so that should there be a need to help

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<v Speaker 2>people in the streets, I was there unable to do so.

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<v Speaker 2>And whether or not this was a good first aid kit,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're going to find out today.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the aim of the game. I should point

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<v Speaker 1>out that, like my medical training is pretty basic, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not that kind of doctor, but I do have

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<v Speaker 1>a wilderness first responder and a wilderness first aid and

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<v Speaker 1>to stop the bleed training, and I've done CPR training,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've done hostile environment first aid training, so a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of stuff which is focused around very very very

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<v Speaker 1>basic first aid. Right. In all of those cases, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like make sure the person doesn't die immediately, and then

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<v Speaker 1>get them to someone who is better trained than you

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<v Speaker 1>so that they can help them more immen, which is

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<v Speaker 1>like listen, if you are learning about medical stuff, on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast hosted by a guy who has a PhD

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<v Speaker 1>in mode European history. Then that that is what you

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<v Speaker 1>are doing too, write like yes, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that because you can for sure fock someone

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<v Speaker 1>up if you if you go sort of outside of

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<v Speaker 1>your scope of knowledge. And that is I understand the

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<v Speaker 1>desire to help. That we have to help in the

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<v Speaker 1>way that's most helpful, I guess, not do any harm.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, let's go over. Let's let's go over I

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<v Speaker 1>guess my first aid kit, and then we can we

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<v Speaker 1>can open yours and see what's the same and what's different. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So this is one because it's small and it fits

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<v Speaker 1>in the small of my back, and if I really

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<v Speaker 1>need to, I could just like wear a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>baggy shirt and it wouldn't be too obvious. I also

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<v Speaker 1>have one that fits around my ankle for times when

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<v Speaker 1>I really don't want people to know I have it,

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<v Speaker 1>but but I also want to have it. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you can wear some sick flare jeans or something and

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<v Speaker 1>people just think you're a trendy kind of guy. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>they'll know. So yeah, in mind, it sort of goes on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of your back and then you can pull

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<v Speaker 1>it away, right, has a big old red handle. Just

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<v Speaker 1>put it like that and it comes away. Yeah, it's nice.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one thing I will say right off the bat

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<v Speaker 1>is like, I've seen a number of people get hurt

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<v Speaker 1>in a number of different situations. I've seen a number

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<v Speaker 1>of people render first date, including myself, sometimes successfully, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>sadly not successfully. And if you're if you have a

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<v Speaker 1>big bag of shit and then you open your bag

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<v Speaker 1>of shit and you're just throwing stuff everywhere, Stuff's falling

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground, it you're that's not helpful, right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>the things that will kill people that are preventable for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part in and like trauma injuries. Right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff that we might see if we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>a pride, if we're attending a protest, if we fucking

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<v Speaker 1>work in a school in America, right is largely like

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<v Speaker 1>like attention umothorax and a whole sucking chest wound and

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<v Speaker 1>losing blood. And losing blood is I believe that the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of most common preventable cause of death in in

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<v Speaker 1>trauma injuries. So most of us is going to focus

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<v Speaker 1>around losing blood. And that's where tyber training called stop

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<v Speaker 1>the bleed comes in right, I believe it's stop the

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<v Speaker 1>Bleed dot org. You can google free stop the Bleed

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<v Speaker 1>classes near me. I have previously posted a link to

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<v Speaker 1>where you can put in your postcode, zip code and

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<v Speaker 1>find free stop the Bleed training near you. And again

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<v Speaker 1>that will cost you no money at all, cost you

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<v Speaker 1>about half a day.

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<v Speaker 2>Of your time.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh great, yeah, yeah, it's it's a great thing actually,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's one of the few things that that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the municipal guy meant to various things put on. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if there isn't one near you, I've heard the people

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<v Speaker 1>hitting up fire departments and then getting them to put

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<v Speaker 1>one on if they can demonstrate some interest because it's

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<v Speaker 1>very basic. And most fire departments will have paramedics, right,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a sort of step up from an empty

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<v Speaker 1>So those those folks can help teach those things very well.

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<v Speaker 1>So what is in here for stopping the bleed? And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to teach you how to use it,

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<v Speaker 1>because then what someone else does?

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<v Speaker 2>Someone else's job.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so before I open it up, this is a tornicque.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people will pronounce that incorrectly. They will say that

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<v Speaker 1>those people are with that hard t kit. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the American way. Yeah, so it's what this guy is

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<v Speaker 1>is is it? It's for like bleeding your limbs, arterial

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<v Speaker 1>bleeding your limbs. Right, it just goes around since it

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<v Speaker 1>down and I'm not telling you how to use it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you tighten it up right. The things I

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<v Speaker 1>want to emphasize about this are one the tie of tornicae.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so this is called a combat application tornice.

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<v Speaker 1>It's made by a company called North American Rescue. There

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<v Speaker 1>are a few other ones that I would use. The

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<v Speaker 1>other one I have, I think is the Softy Wide

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<v Speaker 1>and I have some of the REVX med ratcheting tornicades

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<v Speaker 1>as well. They use like a boa. If people have

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<v Speaker 1>used ski boots or cycling shoes, they'll be familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>a boa call. The one to buy is the one

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<v Speaker 1>that you use when you do your training right, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be a sam as another one. There's another.

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<v Speaker 1>These are all the toniques you want to buy if

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<v Speaker 1>you're sort of if you're confused about which one you used.

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<v Speaker 1>The ones that are approved by the t trouble C

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<v Speaker 1>It's a Committee on Tactical Casualty Care, Tactical Casualty something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Those guys have tested them extensively right to

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<v Speaker 1>see which wants work, which wants to don't. It is

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<v Speaker 1>this is not somewhere to save money that they they

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<v Speaker 1>are about twenty three twenty five bucks. You find them

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<v Speaker 1>on sale, it's not. Yeah. I mean, if if that's

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<v Speaker 1>a big expense for you, then I understand, uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's okay not to have one if that's a

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<v Speaker 1>big expense or to save up and wait like, that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>It's better than using an improvised tornic K. Right. So

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<v Speaker 1>there there are not very many very good studies at

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<v Speaker 1>least that I could find on improvised tornic K's someplaces

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<v Speaker 1>still teaching improvised tornic K, like I I've taken a

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<v Speaker 1>Woman's First Responder where they taught it. I've also seen

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<v Speaker 1>one not work, and I will tell you that that's

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<v Speaker 1>not an experience that I want to ever have again

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<v Speaker 1>in my life, and I don't think it's one i'd

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<v Speaker 1>like you all to share with me. So I would

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<v Speaker 1>suggest if you're going to be using a tornic K,

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<v Speaker 1>then then buying a cat is kind of the standard.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't buy it from Jeffrey Bezos because this Amazon

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<v Speaker 1>dot com is a website that he owns, I believe, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Space Cowboy Jeffrey. And so the reason why is that

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<v Speaker 1>all of these different there are knockoffs, right, there are

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<v Speaker 1>fakes of this. They go in different they go in

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<v Speaker 1>the same bin from what I'm told, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>person who's a picker just maybe grabs one, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you can end up with a fake. What can happen

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<v Speaker 1>with a fake is the strap can break or the windless.

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<v Speaker 1>So the windless is the guy that tightens it can break. Ah, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>either of those things is going to lead to the

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<v Speaker 1>tonic failing. Right, it's not going to apply enough pressure,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's going to it could do a number of things, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It could just fail to start the bleeding. Depending on

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<v Speaker 1>if you've misidentified the bleeding. You could give someone a

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<v Speaker 1>compartment syndrome or something. It's going to be very painful.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be very painful anyway, and you'll learn

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<v Speaker 1>that in your course which you're going to take. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna not going to just listen to me on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast, thank you. And so you do want a

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<v Speaker 1>real one, and so the easiest way to obtain a

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<v Speaker 1>real one is to buy one from a reliable source

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<v Speaker 1>Rescue Essentials, Chinook Medical and North American Rescuer or people

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<v Speaker 1>who I've worked with. I'll say that Rescue is Eventual

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<v Speaker 1>sent me a bunch of shit before I went on

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<v Speaker 1>a work trip. They it was lots of it was

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<v Speaker 1>outdated or the open box or something, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>able to donate that to fixes and journalists I was

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<v Speaker 1>working with. I thought that was very cool of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool.

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<v Speaker 1>They offer a stop the Bleed month discount. I think

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<v Speaker 1>stop the Bleed month is May, so we might be

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<v Speaker 1>out of that now. But those are real places where

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<v Speaker 1>you can buy these tonic cas and know that you're

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<v Speaker 1>not getting a fake one, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So you'll provide links to that in the description of

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<v Speaker 2>the place.

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<v Speaker 1>We will yeap yeah, yeah, I'll make sure that those

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<v Speaker 1>are there for you to click. So there are different generations,

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<v Speaker 1>like I think generation seven is what I have. Generation

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<v Speaker 1>six is also fine. You probably won't find one sold

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<v Speaker 1>before that. On the off chance you do, I would

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<v Speaker 1>just stick to a generation seven or six. And it

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<v Speaker 1>does have a little timestamps, so you want little sharpie

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<v Speaker 1>as well to write the time on. That's more important.

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<v Speaker 1>It's possible that you might put this on somebody. So

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<v Speaker 1>you're at a pride event and there is something terrible happening,

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<v Speaker 1>like a mass shooter, and you might be there for

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<v Speaker 1>a while. Let's say you're in tech and all your

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<v Speaker 1>cops are fucking cowards, and then unfortunately, if you were

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<v Speaker 1>able to render aid someone and then you both of

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<v Speaker 1>you were able to not get hurt any further, you

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<v Speaker 1>could be there for a while, and then it would

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<v Speaker 1>be relevant what time the tornica is applied. Normally, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in the US, we would hope that you would have

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<v Speaker 1>medical attention pretty quickly because you know, that threat would

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<v Speaker 1>have been stopped and then EMS would be able to

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<v Speaker 1>provide help. But so that that's where the time thing

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<v Speaker 1>comes in, right, And so you want to have a

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<v Speaker 1>tiny sharpie when you have a tornic and you can

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<v Speaker 1>get North American Rescue actually sell little tiny, half sized

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<v Speaker 1>sharpies and I shove them in the pouch with the

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<v Speaker 1>tornic ue and then there they are, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>always have a sharpie. So we go inside there it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at that. Okay, hey the little guy, Oh that's

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<v Speaker 1>a cute. Yeah, isn't it gorgeous? Yeah? We love a

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<v Speaker 1>little guy. Here to credit card size sharpie. It's perfect. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for those who are not dannel exactly somewhat with a

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<v Speaker 1>pinky sharpie and I'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Do I will do the part of contextualizing for the

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<v Speaker 2>for the non video audience.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Daniel. Yeah, of course, paint a picture with

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<v Speaker 1>words if you will. So we're going through this now.

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<v Speaker 1>If if you focus on bleeding again, right, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of different dressings that you have. So again I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to tell you what to use for wear,

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<v Speaker 1>but you would use like the tournique on one part

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<v Speaker 1>of your body. The other things you're going to use

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<v Speaker 1>would be a pressure dressing. So you can get a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of different pressure dressings. I like the Olays ones O.

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<v Speaker 1>L A E. S That it doesn't hugely matter that

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<v Speaker 1>those ones just have a little bit of gorse that

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<v Speaker 1>you can pull out so you can pack a wound

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<v Speaker 1>two And sometimes if you do so, if you get

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<v Speaker 1>like a nice training, they might let you practice packing

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<v Speaker 1>some wounds, so they might have like a little fake

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<v Speaker 1>wound that you can pack and yeah, so that you'll

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<v Speaker 1>learn a lot about like how to do that there

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<v Speaker 1>and so those allowed some of the other ones don't.

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<v Speaker 1>But honestly, like sometimes they're called Israeli bandages. They will

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<v Speaker 1>not like colonize Palestine if you you know, put them

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<v Speaker 1>in you at first gate kit. But that's what this

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<v Speaker 1>guy is, right, And sometimes they have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>packaging on, so you want to take them down to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the last layer of packaging. None of this

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<v Speaker 1>shit is sterile, right, None of this stuff is. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not supposed to be in for a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's okay to have that like either just bear

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<v Speaker 1>or in its first layer of packaging.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get textualize one thing from a video perspective,

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<v Speaker 2>just for everybody listening. As James is showing me his

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<v Speaker 2>first aid kit, it looks like every item that he's

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<v Speaker 2>talking about other than the tournique is individually wrapped and

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<v Speaker 2>also strapped down. Yeah, it looks like I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>about seven or eight individual items within there, and they

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<v Speaker 2>all have their own pocket and they're all strapped down.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's something that immediately looking at mine, I basically

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<v Speaker 2>have you know, small plastic baggies that I will hold

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<v Speaker 2>up to James right now, small plastic baggies of just

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<v Speaker 2>like a lot of loose shits, and it's just way

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<v Speaker 2>too much stuff in here, I would say, of what

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<v Speaker 2>I see in James's bag versus mine, I think I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, there's stuff missing, Like there's no tournique

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<v Speaker 2>in here. There's a lot of different gauze things, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's but there's you know, in mind, I have like

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred different bandages, and like there's aspirin in here,

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<v Speaker 2>and like some things that feel like they're more for

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<v Speaker 2>like a camping trip than they are really like handling

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<v Speaker 2>a first aid scenario in which you need to save

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<v Speaker 2>someone's life. So one piece of advice that I'm getting

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<v Speaker 2>from James as he shares this, is that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what's important to carry around is the stuff that is

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<v Speaker 2>going to give you immediate access to the ability to

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<v Speaker 2>save someone's life. So think about that as you are

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<v Speaker 2>like packing your bag. What I have here that I

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<v Speaker 2>bought online, that I'm still glad that I have is

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<v Speaker 2>basically a collection of a bunch of different miscellaneous first

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<v Speaker 2>aid stuff rather than a very stripped down specific list

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<v Speaker 2>of items that I can use to save someone's life

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<v Speaker 2>in an emergency scenario.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, excellent point, and you can see them all right

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<v Speaker 1>when you open this guy. This guy is also like

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<v Speaker 1>sign it's such as I can pull it off, pop

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<v Speaker 1>it on the floor, open it up, have my workspace

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<v Speaker 1>in front of me. If there's anything I'm not confident doing,

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<v Speaker 1>If like when horrible things happen and people are bleeding you,

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<v Speaker 1>you do not in that time gain skills right at

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<v Speaker 1>that moment, speaking from like more experience than I would

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<v Speaker 1>like to have. If people are in a really bad

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<v Speaker 1>way in front of you, it's not a fun time,

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<v Speaker 1>and you get scared and you might panic. That's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that happens to everyone. People aren't supposed to see their shit,

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<v Speaker 1>and if it, certainly, if it's your first time seeing,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not unreasonable at all to freak out and not

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<v Speaker 1>know what to do. You can just hold any of

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<v Speaker 1>the ship up, say hey I have a tonic uit,

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<v Speaker 1>Hey I have a pressure dressing, and someone who who's

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<v Speaker 1>at that time is able to help can take that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what they're doing, they can help. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>totally fine just to have this shit. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how to use it, you know, don't go

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<v Speaker 1>beyond your scope of knowledge. But just you have that

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<v Speaker 1>shit and you can provide it someone else, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, everything's in little elastic bands. I've got this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff which is called quick clot We've talked a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the podcast recently about indigenous medical technologies. This is

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<v Speaker 1>an example of one. Right. So it's using I think kalin.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some that use kalin, some that use something that

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<v Speaker 1>came from crab shells. But this is this is an

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<v Speaker 1>indigenous medical technology that now is sort of it's a

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<v Speaker 1>bit it's been refined over time. This just contains a

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<v Speaker 1>thing that stops it helps blood to clots, hemostatic agent. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So when you're packing a wound, you could use this first.

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<v Speaker 1>This this would help with blood clotting. Right. It's also

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<v Speaker 1>the type I have is detectable on X rays, which

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<v Speaker 1>helps a lot. There are some older types which are powders.

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<v Speaker 1>Those of those are probably best avoided. And you want

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<v Speaker 1>the gauze that is impregnated with the hemostatic agent if

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<v Speaker 1>you can. This stuff got really pricey recently, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>think the best price I've seen for this is thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five bucks. Oh wow, So yeah, this guy is going

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<v Speaker 1>to cost you the most.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have an idea why that is?

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people probably bought it in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty. Might be part of it. Maybe it's some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of supply chain thing. I don't if you know

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<v Speaker 1>where they get the ingredients from. But they just went

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<v Speaker 1>up in price a lot link Like a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people were sort of reaching out about, Hey, why is

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<v Speaker 1>this shit so expensive? Sure, I don't know, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like one hundred percent necessary, but it is a

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<v Speaker 1>very helpful thing and it can make a difference in

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<v Speaker 1>some cases. Right, So that's the hemostetic gause. What else

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<v Speaker 1>I've gotten here as a pair of trauma shares. That's

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<v Speaker 1>just if you need to remove someone's clothing to access

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<v Speaker 1>a wound, and that is kind of important. So for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing a training once and I prefer to

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<v Speaker 1>speak about those things. So like where a guy was

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<v Speaker 1>presented to us with gunshot wound, and like, if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't rip off his houses like this, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>someone's been shot and you're there helping them. Again, like

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<v Speaker 1>if if you're not comfortable doing this, you haven't done

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<v Speaker 1>the training and don't be just ripping off strangers clothes.

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<v Speaker 1>That's weird in general. Yeah, yeah, there comes a yes. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So like and they had this cool kind of thing

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<v Speaker 1>around his leg that bled like he had like two wounds,

0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:24.680
<v Speaker 1>sort of pumping out blood. It's like a cool kind

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<v Speaker 1>of bleeding simulator. So but yeah, bullets will do crazy

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<v Speaker 1>ship and they'll go in one part of your leg

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<v Speaker 1>and hit the bone abouts around and go out in

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<v Speaker 1>fact the other. But they don't always travel in straight lines.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not laser beams. So by exposing that wound, you

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<v Speaker 1>can sometimes see the exit wound, and so you'll know

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<v Speaker 1>that there are two wounds, right, Yeah, depending on how

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to treat it. You know you're gonna pack it,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to put a torn key on it, but

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<v Speaker 1>that that will That's what these are for. You can

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<v Speaker 1>also get things which are called like I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>called a clothing knife. I actually keep one, yeah, into

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<v Speaker 1>the belt of my plate carrier that I used to work,

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<v Speaker 1>just so that it's like right here and it's the

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<v Speaker 1>same place I keep my diving knife, so then I

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<v Speaker 1>know it's there. And what it does is these are

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<v Speaker 1>handy thing to have in your truck to Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you've seen it. So it's a contained blade, right. I

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<v Speaker 1>like this little chat because in addition to the contained blade,

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<v Speaker 1>it has a little glass breaker.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I was going to say we have one in

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<v Speaker 2>the car, so it's like a se Some people might

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<v Speaker 2>not as a seatbelt cutter, yeah, seatbell cutter. And usually

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<v Speaker 2>on the other side, like you said, they have a

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<v Speaker 2>glass breaker. So but that is a much more contained

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<v Speaker 2>one and that looks nice. The one in my car

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<v Speaker 2>is like the size of a small hammer, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>like meant to be like, you know, give you the

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<v Speaker 2>forest to hold in and smack of window, but also

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of thing that is super useful. I think

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<v Speaker 2>everybody should have one in their car.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can put on your keyring even right. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the size of like a like a match box

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<v Speaker 1>or key. It's like the size of the key fob.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah. If you have a newer vehicle than

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<v Speaker 1>I do, then.

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<v Speaker 2>So I didn't mean to be car classes here. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay.

0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:07.159
<v Speaker 1>Min's approaching classic status. But yeah, we'll we'll put a

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<v Speaker 1>link on the on the website for this little chap

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<v Speaker 1>as well. We're not like we're not fucking getting affiliate

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<v Speaker 1>revenue from that weirdness, guys, We're just trying to help

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<v Speaker 1>you out. Nice thing about this is like it's quite

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<v Speaker 1>hard to stab someone with trauma shears because they've got

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<v Speaker 1>this little fulling up on the bottom, but it can

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<v Speaker 1>be quite a lot of chopping and things like this

0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:30.640
<v Speaker 1>guy you can like whoop. So these are probably also

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<v Speaker 1>cheaper and you won't end up using them as scissors

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<v Speaker 1>and getting them blunt. So that is that is my

0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:39.040
<v Speaker 1>little getting people's clothes off. And then the last one.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a couple of burned dressings in here. That's

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<v Speaker 1>just because so many people got burned in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Approached from me though, Yeah, would be so if someone

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<v Speaker 1>shoots something out, you don't pick that ship up, don't.

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<v Speaker 1>They just don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Like in my prepping, I got fire resistant gloves. I like,

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<v Speaker 2>I got gloves that were treated for like I don't know,

0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:05.080
<v Speaker 2>it's like five hundred degrees or something like that, in

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<v Speaker 2>the event that I needed to throw back a gas canister.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think I was, I mean, I was way

0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:12.840
<v Speaker 2>too rambo about the whole thing because I still have

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<v Speaker 2>not encountered a gas grenade once yet. So yeah, crossed,

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<v Speaker 2>but I mean I don't know, I'm down.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe I'm ready just get him yeah, yeah, yeah, Dave,

0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:25.159
<v Speaker 1>I love that for you. It's great. Yeah, so you

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<v Speaker 1>can instead of having the gloves, right, just avoid picking

0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:30.600
<v Speaker 1>it up. But people do get burned from that from

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<v Speaker 1>from other stuff, right, so burn dressing not really necessary

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<v Speaker 1>because it's unlikely if someone is burned to the extent

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<v Speaker 1>that it's threatening to their life. You aren't helping them

0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:43.399
<v Speaker 1>with your little box of stuff, so that's fine. And

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<v Speaker 1>then these guys are vented chess seals. Ideally you do

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<v Speaker 1>want vented chess seals. I was reading a study the

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<v Speaker 1>other day. It's yes, you're the sort of greatest survivability

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<v Speaker 1>and what you are doing with those is that this

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<v Speaker 1>is for a sucking chest wounds. Not named that because

0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:02.600
<v Speaker 1>it sucks, but it does. Yeah, yeah, but it is.

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<v Speaker 1>This is for like, I guess, penetrating chest trauma. And

0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:09.800
<v Speaker 1>what these these guys I bought in a pack of two.

0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:13.359
<v Speaker 1>Hyphen are a good brand. I think Halo or another brand.

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<v Speaker 1>There are some knockoffs on on Amazon dot Com. They

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't buy just like again, it's probably worse pending a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit extra. These are These are the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>have gone through extensive testing that are issued to lots

0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:28.960
<v Speaker 1>of militaries around the world. They're very flat, right, if

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to, you could distribute the ship about your

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<v Speaker 1>person it's just going to be harder to get at it,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're not going to remember which back pocket maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you shut what in. These are very flat and very easy.

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<v Speaker 1>Their their giant stickers and you again when you do

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<v Speaker 1>your training, will learn how to use them. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would avoid like the rhino. I think Rhino is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the brands on Amazon and stuff. Just get

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<v Speaker 1>a hyphen is kind of the standard. There's an older

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<v Speaker 1>type as well, but these hyphens are more common packed

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<v Speaker 1>and they're preferred.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you're searching hyphen, if you happen researching, it's

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<v Speaker 2>h y f i n We're going to put it

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<v Speaker 2>in the chat. But just you know, for a word

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<v Speaker 2>that is phonetically very similar to another common word, hyphen

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<v Speaker 2>is h y f i n ah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, so well said Daniel. That is a that

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<v Speaker 1>is a that's a chess seal. Right, so here is

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<v Speaker 1>the other type just for you're viewing this an Ashman

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<v Speaker 1>chess seal, so that not preferred, So stick with the hyphen.

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<v Speaker 1>These are kind of bigger and don't pack as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I would stick with the hyphens. The other

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<v Speaker 1>thing I have in here is a like a space blanket.

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<v Speaker 1>Just survival. Interesting. Yeah, so when you are losing a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of blood, you get very cold, and so you

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<v Speaker 1>do want to keep that treasure. You do want to

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<v Speaker 1>keep that casualty warm. This isn't going to really be

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<v Speaker 1>enough on its own, quite honestly, like you to probably

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<v Speaker 1>actively heat someone, but it's better than nothink. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>again it's very small. Again, I've given tons of these

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<v Speaker 1>out in various different situations that weren't like a casualty situation,

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<v Speaker 1>so that they've a nice thing to have. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>generally want to be packing shit just because it's a

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<v Speaker 1>nice thing to have, and we'll get onto that. But

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<v Speaker 1>this again is very small. There's almost always face for it.

0:24:20.320 --> 0:24:22.840
<v Speaker 1>So I include that. I also have a little source

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<v Speaker 1>of light, like a little torch flashlight for American listeners,

0:24:26.840 --> 0:24:33.720
<v Speaker 1>nice as h and that is there for being able

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<v Speaker 1>to see things, which is very handy actually when you

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<v Speaker 1>when you're trying to help someone who is bleeding. Another

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<v Speaker 1>thing to include would be gloves. I have my gloves

0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:46.800
<v Speaker 1>somewhere else on this belt, so they're not here, but

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<v Speaker 1>medical gloves right, And again you'll probably learn this in

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<v Speaker 1>your course. But like a lot of people like to

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<v Speaker 1>buy black ones. I don't know why cops wear black

0:24:57.840 --> 0:25:00.480
<v Speaker 1>ones all the time, right, just make it's a little

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<v Speaker 1>more difficult if you're doing a blood sweep, which is

0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:06.439
<v Speaker 1>the thing you'll learn about in your class, so that

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually quite hard to see like blood on black,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in perfect Yeah, so blue tan something like that

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of preferable.

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<v Speaker 2>And I do have those in the first aid think good, nice, Yeah, if.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to have those somewhere ready to go, I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're on the front of this bag, so you

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<v Speaker 1>could slap those on. Just you know, you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>where other people have been, what they've been up to,

0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:31.399
<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't matter. You still want to help them,

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<v Speaker 1>so you just want to just want to take care

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<v Speaker 1>of yourself there. So though they're honestly the main things

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<v Speaker 1>I have in there, what I don't have in here

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<v Speaker 1>is equally important, Right, I do not have tampons in here.

0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:43.560
<v Speaker 1>The reason I do not have tampons in here as well,

0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:45.359
<v Speaker 1>it's too far. I'm not a person who menIt rates,

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<v Speaker 1>and even if I was, I wouldn't have my first

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<v Speaker 1>aid kit. And technically because they are not very good

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<v Speaker 1>at but they're terrible at dealing with like massive bleeding, right,

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<v Speaker 1>massive hemorrhage, that's not what they're for. If people have

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with what they are designed for. Like, the volume

0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:06.720
<v Speaker 1>of blood is not the same as the volume you

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<v Speaker 1>see from terial bleed. Yeah yeah, yeah, believe me again,

0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Like I've had the misfortune to see people die from

0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 1>blood loss, and like that is a lot of blood

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<v Speaker 1>more and it's coming out fast, and you ain't stopping

0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:23.040
<v Speaker 1>it with a tampon. It just kind of stopping someone

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<v Speaker 1>who is better equipped from helping. So if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to carry tampons and you want to have them available

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<v Speaker 1>in case someone needs them, that is great, that's very

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:32.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of you. Put them in your car, put them

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<v Speaker 1>in your in your bag that you go around with. Please,

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<v Speaker 1>but not don't confuse them with a trauma dressing because

0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:46.439
<v Speaker 1>they are different things. Don't plan to improvise anything more broadly, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's just when we have excellent tools available that

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<v Speaker 1>designed for this job, just use them. And it's fine

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:57.040
<v Speaker 1>not to be able to get all this stuff at once, Right,

0:26:57.080 --> 0:26:59.879
<v Speaker 1>you could spring for the chest seals first and then

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<v Speaker 1>have a bit of money get the torn k that's fine,

0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:06.400
<v Speaker 1>But like, yes, can you can you improvise a chess

0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:09.359
<v Speaker 1>seal with some duct tape and a credit card or

0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 1>a CRISP packet in theory. Sure, but like these are

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<v Speaker 1>like twelve bucks, so let's just let's just let's just

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:19.200
<v Speaker 1>get them if we can. And have people improvised tornic

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<v Speaker 1>k successfully with cravats? Yes? Have those failed and resulted

0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:25.520
<v Speaker 1>in loss of life? You know? Yes? Like in some

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 1>cases your belt isn't a tornic k right, it doesn't

0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:30.720
<v Speaker 1>have a windless it's not going to get tight enough,

0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:35.679
<v Speaker 1>it might snap. Have people used successfully, yes? Is there

0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:38.480
<v Speaker 1>a twenty three dollars thing which works much more effectively? Yes?

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:43.760
<v Speaker 1>And it's a serious thing. It's fucking it's very real.

0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Like again speaking from experience, like this shit will affect

0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:51.120
<v Speaker 1>you deeply, and you want to know that you did

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<v Speaker 1>the best you could. So and if you can't afford

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:55.320
<v Speaker 1>any of this stuff, that's totally fine, Like just take

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<v Speaker 1>your time and acquire it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think an important thing to add at this point

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:05.760
<v Speaker 2>is to you know, listeners of our show are I

0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:10.960
<v Speaker 2>think overly familiar with the way that we have kind

0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:14.720
<v Speaker 2>of introduce the idea of mutual aid, like the point

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<v Speaker 2>of mutual aid, And what I mean by that is

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<v Speaker 2>that you are not a one person revolutionary Like the

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:23.560
<v Speaker 2>whole idea is community effort. And so especially with something

0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 2>like this, this is like a kind of a two

0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 2>part point. Especially with something like this, consider that you

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:30.680
<v Speaker 2>are part of a community that can help people overall.

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:33.480
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it is not you, the individual listening to this

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:35.560
<v Speaker 2>episode right now that is like I'm going to go

0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:38.320
<v Speaker 2>invest in all of these things because I will be

0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 2>the first aid person. Maybe there's someone you know who's

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 2>already interested in this, and this is information that you

0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:45.880
<v Speaker 2>can pass on to them should they be wanting to

0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 2>invest in equipment like this. And another thing to think

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:52.360
<v Speaker 2>about in terms of why James is offering specific items

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 2>is because think about a hobby that you like doing,

0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 2>Think about anything that you like doing a lot. You

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<v Speaker 2>know you don't usually buy the cheapest version of the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And now this is not me, you know, necessarily advocating

0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:12.000
<v Speaker 2>for overspending or buying expensive things. You just want to

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<v Speaker 2>buy stuff that lasts and that works well and that

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:19.480
<v Speaker 2>does the job because you know overall that stuff will

0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 2>last longer than anything that is cheaper in the immediate moment.

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<v Speaker 2>I think people can say the same thing about things

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<v Speaker 2>like work boots, about tools, about anything that to you

0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 2>is worth investing your time in. So if this is

0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 2>something that you value, if being a first responder, or

0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 2>being that person who's there, if taking a stop the

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:41.400
<v Speaker 2>bleed course is something that's important to you, consider that

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:44.560
<v Speaker 2>these things are more than just like you know, good

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 2>things to have on hand. They're an investment in your

0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 2>future and your interests. So just something to consider that. Like,

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 2>while some of these things may, I mean, nothing sounds

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 2>outrageously expensive that you've said so far. I think the

0:29:57.360 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 2>most expensive thing that you talked about was thirty five

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 2>dollars in that range.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can spend a lot on the pouch, but

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<v Speaker 1>be sure you shouldn't, like, don't buy some fancy hype

0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 1>beasts Instagram gung Guy pouching exactly. Yeah, I think, Yeah,

0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:15.800
<v Speaker 1>the Selock scores is probably much expensive thing I've spoken about.

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<v Speaker 1>On the point of durability, I do want to say

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I've seen people practicing with their torny kes and I

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:25.040
<v Speaker 1>would suggest getting another one to practice with, And totally

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:27.560
<v Speaker 1>makes sense. So North American Mescue breaks a blue one.

0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:30.080
<v Speaker 1>It's exactly the same, It works just the same. If

0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:32.000
<v Speaker 1>you need to use it, you can, but over time

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:34.840
<v Speaker 1>those things fatigue and that they're not designed for multiple uses.

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Have they been used multiple times? Yes? Do people wash

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 1>them and wash the blood of them and use them again? Yes.

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 1>It is again like we shouldn't plan for a sub

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:47.320
<v Speaker 1>optimal setting and what's already going to be a pretty

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:50.680
<v Speaker 1>fucking sub optimal moment. And talking of suboptimal stuff, Daniel,

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 1>we have to start, yeah, to talk about Ronald Reagan.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's my bad.

0:30:56.280 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 2>I should have been the one being like Jason to

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<v Speaker 2>take an ad break.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very there. I am a seasoned professional. We're back.

0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 1>We've returned from my AD break. So I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about resources for training because I think those are

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:20.200
<v Speaker 1>very important, right, and that is where you're going to

0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 1>learn stuff. I am not telling you how to do this.

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:28.160
<v Speaker 1>I would suggest hitting up Stop the Bleed. I think

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 1>it Stopped the Bleed dot org. Stop the Bid training

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 1>in my area, there's a website that will link in

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 1>the description as a part of that website where you

0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:37.400
<v Speaker 1>can put in your zip code and find trainings. And

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:40.160
<v Speaker 1>then if I think about where I've got my training,

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 1>it's through an organization called NOOLS National Outdoor Leadership School.

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 1>So once you get past stop the bleed, you've got

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 1>a couple of Like most community colleges will have an

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 1>EMTB course EMT Basic. That's quite a commitment of your time,

0:31:57.000 --> 0:31:58.640
<v Speaker 1>but you can learn a lot of very important things.

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<v Speaker 1>It can be a career for you if you want

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<v Speaker 1>it to be. Certainly it can be an adjunct to

0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 1>other careers you want to do. If you want to

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:09.040
<v Speaker 1>work in the outdoors, if you can do an e

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<v Speaker 1>m T B and then do a wilderness EMT that

0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 1>opens up a whole range of expeditions to you. So

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:18.880
<v Speaker 1>community college should be free. Most of those courses are

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<v Speaker 1>free or very affordable, depending on where you are. Knowles's

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 1>courses are not free, nor are they very affordable. That

0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:27.760
<v Speaker 1>they are very expensive, but they are very good. Your

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 1>look or ARII probably puts them on. Knowles does have

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:32.959
<v Speaker 1>scholarships for people who are more marginalized from the outdoors,

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:35.720
<v Speaker 1>or they did last time I spoke to them, so

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 1>those might be worth checking out. And then there are

0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:42.960
<v Speaker 1>apps which will give you resources. Resources are not the

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:46.520
<v Speaker 1>same as training, right like training is knowing what to do,

0:32:46.680 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 1>it's not sometimes it's knowing where to look. But in

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:50.520
<v Speaker 1>situations like this, like you don't want to be on

0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:54.840
<v Speaker 1>your phone for more advanced stuff, for stuff where you

0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 1>know you're you're you're doing care in the field, right

0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:00.160
<v Speaker 1>if you're doing or you know, wilderness first responder, if

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to think times that I've done stuff with

0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 1>that one time I was climbing up a mountain and

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 1>the big old rock fell on me. I had to

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<v Speaker 1>split my leg and oh my god, what bleeding? Like, Yeah, yeah,

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 1>it's a good times. Don't yeah, don't don't watch out

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:18.720
<v Speaker 1>for rock full audience.

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:22.080
<v Speaker 2>I just want to throw something out there. Every single

0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:25.840
<v Speaker 2>time James tells us any story about his life, it

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:32.720
<v Speaker 2>is just this this wonderfully vivid, like colorful story about

0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 2>something that has happened to him, or an experience that

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 2>he's had, or a profession that he's had. That just

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:42.160
<v Speaker 2>adds to the tone of interesting facts about James. So

0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:45.880
<v Speaker 2>if you, I don't know, I highly recommend you listen

0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 2>to every single episode that James is on because you

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:51.160
<v Speaker 2>have lived a fascinating life and that is merely a

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 2>split second of it. That's wild. I'm glad, you're okay, Yeah,

0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:57.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm fine, but yeah, you know, clearly here we are

0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 2>with that, right, especially.

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:02.920
<v Speaker 1>In wildern smetter. Then there's an emphasis on using what

0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:06.080
<v Speaker 1>you already have, and because you can't bring everything into wilderness, right,

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 1>So that's where I'm saying. Knowledge doesn't wear anything. It

0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:10.840
<v Speaker 1>doesn't take up any space in your pack. So you

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 1>can use an air mattress pretty well. To splint a

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:17.120
<v Speaker 1>leg injury. You can use one of those foam so

0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:20.120
<v Speaker 1>air mattress is a guy that you sleep on. Yeah yeah, yeah,

0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:22.680
<v Speaker 1>So you can kind of a fandangle those up around

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:26.280
<v Speaker 1>a leg. You can use a therm arrest or similar

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:30.319
<v Speaker 1>other products are available foam sleeping mattress. You can use

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:34.600
<v Speaker 1>a hiking pole tent pole. Tentpoles are kind of nice

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:36.279
<v Speaker 1>because you can break them down into sections to get

0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 1>the right length, and then all you're using from your

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:42.799
<v Speaker 1>first aid kit is your it's your tape, right or

0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:46.279
<v Speaker 1>I like ski straps. I touch everything in my life.

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 1>It's important to me with ski straps. So I love

0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:52.200
<v Speaker 1>a ski strap and I had some ski straps, and

0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:54.440
<v Speaker 1>you can just splint that bad boy with a couple

0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:56.719
<v Speaker 1>of ski straps, a couple of tent poles back of

0:34:56.760 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 1>the neck. You're not having a great day at that point.

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:01.879
<v Speaker 1>This is not the kind of medical care you'd hope

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:04.480
<v Speaker 1>for in a professional setting. But you know, if you've

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 1>got that and you've got a crush, you can you

0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:09.359
<v Speaker 1>can get yourself to a higher degree of care. So

0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 1>when we're doing stuff like that, I believe Knowles has

0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:16.400
<v Speaker 1>a Wilderness Medicine app. There's Deployed Medicine, which is a

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:20.319
<v Speaker 1>US military resource for field care, which can help to

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:22.319
<v Speaker 1>remind you of stuff that you've already trained on. It's

0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:24.440
<v Speaker 1>not going to teach you to do stuff you shouldn't,

0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:26.120
<v Speaker 1>just read about it on there and use it. And

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:29.880
<v Speaker 1>there's a new one called Goes Goes which literally launched

0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:33.480
<v Speaker 1>like this week, Goes Health, which it's offline to It

0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:36.160
<v Speaker 1>gives an offline data base of wilderness medicine and it

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:39.680
<v Speaker 1>helps you kind of with diagnostic cues of stuff. So

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:42.960
<v Speaker 1>when you do your wilderness first responder, at least when

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:45.400
<v Speaker 1>I did it, someone must have had an ectopic pregnancy

0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:47.359
<v Speaker 1>and had a very bad outcome, because they'll they'll ask

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:49.279
<v Speaker 1>you with all these questions like what could this be?

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:51.759
<v Speaker 1>What could this be? And like they want you to

0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:53.279
<v Speaker 1>be able to know what an act topic pregnancy is

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:55.479
<v Speaker 1>so like, but there's like a sort of flow chart

0:35:55.520 --> 0:35:57.400
<v Speaker 1>that you can follow right to help you be like

0:35:57.440 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 1>what is this is appendicitis what's going on here? So when?

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Because you probably won't remember every certainly if you take

0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:07.440
<v Speaker 1>a woof of course and then two years later, you

0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:10.520
<v Speaker 1>know you before you recertify it, like something happens, a

0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 1>lot could happen in two years, you won't have remembered

0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:14.319
<v Speaker 1>everything that you learned in your course. Right, So some

0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:19.040
<v Speaker 1>of those apps are useful, but the most important thing

0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:20.920
<v Speaker 1>the thing where you will learn to use all of

0:36:20.920 --> 0:36:23.080
<v Speaker 1>the items in this I fat is stopped the bleed

0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:28.320
<v Speaker 1>and it is free, and that is where everyone should start.

0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:30.279
<v Speaker 1>They're not going to teach you how to use all

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 1>the things. So if we bust open the bag that

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:37.680
<v Speaker 1>you got Daniel quickly, it's overstuffed.

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of things in there. Yeah wait, too

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:43.400
<v Speaker 2>many things. I mean literally like as there is a

0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:47.600
<v Speaker 2>there is a pouch of emergency drinking water. Oh yeah,

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:51.760
<v Speaker 2>there is there is a watch McCall it, a bright

0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:55.400
<v Speaker 2>stick like a little light stick. There is about one

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:59.839
<v Speaker 2>hundred different kinds of watch McCall it. Like look at

0:36:59.840 --> 0:37:03.120
<v Speaker 2>this literal just like pile of band aids, just like

0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 2>hundreds of band aids and alcohol wipes and oh there's

0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:10.759
<v Speaker 2>a whistle. A whistle is should you get lost in

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:11.440
<v Speaker 2>the wilderness.

0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 1>This is a very handy in urban or rural dishausters,

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:19.200
<v Speaker 1>but not for fiestat, not for this.

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:21.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't think any of this stuff is necessarily bad.

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:24.600
<v Speaker 2>It's just there's just way too much. There's gauze pads.

0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:28.760
<v Speaker 2>There is this ABD pad sterile extra absorbent pad yep

0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:31.080
<v Speaker 2>that you know, I don't think is going to do

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:33.000
<v Speaker 2>what it needs to do. But there's a shit ton

0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:36.359
<v Speaker 2>of gauze in here. And there are look, you want

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 2>to talk about things to cut open. You're talking about

0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 2>clothing scissors. These little guys are I don't think are

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:46.960
<v Speaker 2>going to do that. No, that tape and stuff exactly

0:37:47.040 --> 0:37:50.360
<v Speaker 2>trimming tape. There's also tweezers in here. I really this

0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:52.600
<v Speaker 2>feels like for people who are in the wilderness and

0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:53.280
<v Speaker 2>they get a splinter.

0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:56.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and that stuff super handy to having your

0:37:56.760 --> 0:38:03.600
<v Speaker 1>truck or your car, Like motorcycle guys are only pretty good. Yes, yeah,

0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:07.279
<v Speaker 1>it's not gonna immediately stop you from dying from loss

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:09.640
<v Speaker 1>of blood, which is more we're concerned without. If you

0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:12.040
<v Speaker 1>do ride a motorcycle. You really want to fucking have one,

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Like I ride a bicycle, and I have seen some

0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:19.240
<v Speaker 1>motor vehicle accidents, and I'm just going to say, motorcycle

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:20.759
<v Speaker 1>folks want to have that. Someone else can grab it

0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:22.600
<v Speaker 1>off your motorbi I can use it if you've hurt yourself.

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:28.000
<v Speaker 1>But sure, I've seen that happen before. So yeah, that

0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:29.920
<v Speaker 1>stuff is all very handy, it's all very nice. It

0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 1>can make you feel better, right, Like there's I imagine

0:38:32.680 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 1>there's a ton of viberprofen and paracetamol and benadryl. All

0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:40.279
<v Speaker 1>that stuff is great. That stuff's super handy, right, And

0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 1>another thing I would add is some of that stuff

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:45.799
<v Speaker 1>can be life saving if you have an allergy, right,

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:48.759
<v Speaker 1>and you need to take something for that, Yeah, put

0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:51.520
<v Speaker 1>that in your first aid kit because that's particular to you. Right.

0:38:51.560 --> 0:38:52.839
<v Speaker 1>And if you if that's going to if you need

0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:57.120
<v Speaker 1>an EpiPen, then have your EpiPen of course, right, you know,

0:38:57.120 --> 0:38:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you do. Anyway, if you have diabetes, have

0:38:58.880 --> 0:39:02.360
<v Speaker 1>your gluca garden and some Sure, all of that stuff

0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:06.560
<v Speaker 1>is of course important. But in terms of like dealing

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:09.680
<v Speaker 1>with what we perceive to be an increased risk of

0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:14.480
<v Speaker 1>like homophobic violence, which normally manifests itself as people getting

0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:18.400
<v Speaker 1>shot in this country. Then the little scissors and their

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:21.040
<v Speaker 1>ABD pad, the band aids aren't what we need and

0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:23.080
<v Speaker 1>they're just going to get in the way. So even

0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:25.480
<v Speaker 1>if you have those, great keep them in the car.

0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I gave tons of people band aids because they've got

0:39:29.200 --> 0:39:32.600
<v Speaker 1>blisters in twenty twenty, right, because people are not familiar

0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:35.600
<v Speaker 1>with walking that far. Their boots sucked. People decided to

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:39.080
<v Speaker 1>wear heavy boots because they were worried. All understandable things.

0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:40.800
<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of band aids, a lot of a

0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:44.439
<v Speaker 1>lot of horseshoe plasters or of you know, like second skin. Great,

0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:47.279
<v Speaker 1>happy to give you one of those things. I'll keep

0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:49.239
<v Speaker 1>it in a different pocket though, right, So so I'm

0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:52.040
<v Speaker 1>not you know, sorting pats of blister plasters if someone's

0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:56.080
<v Speaker 1>been shot. And that's a good tip regardless of what

0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:58.480
<v Speaker 1>you're doing, what you even if you're doing, you know,

0:39:58.480 --> 0:40:00.640
<v Speaker 1>you're bringing more stuff and more WEP. But it's great aspirin.

0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:03.719
<v Speaker 1>I bet people need that sometimes, or iyeberprofiene if their

0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:07.080
<v Speaker 1>knees hurting from walking a lot, Great pound that shit.

0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:10.080
<v Speaker 1>But like, don't that's not what we want. We don't

0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:13.239
<v Speaker 1>want to be administering medicines really, certainly if we're not

0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:16.399
<v Speaker 1>trying to do so after a trauma thing, because some

0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:19.960
<v Speaker 1>of they pay medicines we might be taking might might

0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:22.120
<v Speaker 1>inhibit blood clotting, right, So we don't want to be

0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:24.560
<v Speaker 1>doing that before that person goes on too a higher

0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:26.799
<v Speaker 1>standard ca it's going to fucking suck for them. But

0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:30.200
<v Speaker 1>like you're, the best you can do is stop that

0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 1>person dying or help someone else who's qualified to do

0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:34.960
<v Speaker 1>that by just saying, hey, I have this stuff, and

0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:39.640
<v Speaker 1>it's all pretty compact, you know, like I said, it's

0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:42.080
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, the size of a paperback book, decent

0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:47.879
<v Speaker 1>sized paperback books, something like that, and having it may

0:40:48.040 --> 0:40:50.239
<v Speaker 1>or may not be hopefully right. You just buy this

0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:52.840
<v Speaker 1>thing and it sits around for a while, and eventually,

0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:55.400
<v Speaker 1>if you've been having the tornicque in the sun for

0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:57.399
<v Speaker 1>years and years, you want to replace it. The UV

0:40:57.560 --> 0:41:00.600
<v Speaker 1>can cause them to decay. You can just put them

0:41:00.640 --> 0:41:03.600
<v Speaker 1>inside a pouch. I've made all kinds of pouches for them.

0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:05.600
<v Speaker 1>You can buy an expensive one on the internet, or

0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:07.600
<v Speaker 1>you can just use a piece so a piece of nylon,

0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:11.239
<v Speaker 1>which is what I do two rubber bands and put

0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:15.520
<v Speaker 1>it inside your waistband of your thing. Many many such

0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:18.640
<v Speaker 1>solutions exist, But yeah, I would encourage everyone. I think

0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I've said it's about twenty eight times to get training

0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:25.520
<v Speaker 1>and not just to just go and do this. If

0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:27.520
<v Speaker 1>you can't access that training straight away and you want

0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:29.759
<v Speaker 1>to get the stuff where you look for training, that's fine.

0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:31.719
<v Speaker 1>Just don't be doing stuff you don't know how to do,

0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:35.560
<v Speaker 1>because you know someone might confuse out for someone who

0:41:35.640 --> 0:41:37.560
<v Speaker 1>is qualified and is helping. And then if you don't

0:41:37.600 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 1>know what you're doing and you make a mistake, and

0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:42.879
<v Speaker 1>that that could be worse than someone. If someone comes

0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:45.560
<v Speaker 1>in and they're doing triage right, they're saying, who do

0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 1>we need to treat now? Who do we need to

0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:50.879
<v Speaker 1>treat later? Who can't we help then? And they see

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:53.920
<v Speaker 1>you doing that, Okay, that person's covered that. You want

0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:56.919
<v Speaker 1>to be sure that you're covering what you're doing. So yeah,

0:41:57.280 --> 0:41:59.799
<v Speaker 1>just make sure you get the training. We're not trying

0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:02.360
<v Speaker 1>to scare you into not going to things. Please don't

0:42:02.560 --> 0:42:05.200
<v Speaker 1>feel afraid. I know it's very easy to feel afraid.

0:42:05.239 --> 0:42:08.040
<v Speaker 1>That's of course the goal of you know, most of

0:42:08.040 --> 0:42:11.719
<v Speaker 1>these people, their ass is welded to their gaming chair,

0:42:11.719 --> 0:42:13.360
<v Speaker 1>and they will never actually come into the streets and

0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 1>hurt you. They just stay stuff on Twitter dot com

0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:21.800
<v Speaker 1>and like, you're fine. But it's very reasonable to be prudent.

0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:25.040
<v Speaker 1>And certainly this is stuff I have in my truk,

0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:26.160
<v Speaker 1>I have it in my bag, I have it in

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:29.000
<v Speaker 1>most places I go, and you know, you get used

0:42:29.000 --> 0:42:31.160
<v Speaker 1>to it. It's fine, and take it a course. And

0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:33.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm on work trips and I try and leave lots

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:35.200
<v Speaker 1>of it with my colleagues who can't access it so

0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:40.040
<v Speaker 1>easily in other countries. So yeah, I hope that's helpful

0:42:40.160 --> 0:42:43.800
<v Speaker 1>for people. Mind. It's mind, Yeah, yeah, it is. It's

0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:48.480
<v Speaker 1>it's and I look, I guess just to wrap up

0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:54.000
<v Speaker 1>like you are not. I don't watch television really, Hugh Laurie,

0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:58.279
<v Speaker 1>what's Hugh Lurry's deal house? Oh house? Yeah, or like

0:42:58.480 --> 0:43:01.360
<v Speaker 1>some other super doctor, right, like you can't heal everyone.

0:43:02.120 --> 0:43:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Bad things happen, But it's just peace of mind and

0:43:04.360 --> 0:43:07.520
<v Speaker 1>trying to do your best to help everyone. And that's

0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:11.200
<v Speaker 1>relatively accessible and not too expensive. I think there's an

0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:13.319
<v Speaker 1>IPAC fund which gives youse away for free as well,

0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:16.439
<v Speaker 1>so cool. That's where we're looking in too. If that's

0:43:16.480 --> 0:43:18.759
<v Speaker 1>if someone can find that, they can send it to

0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:21.440
<v Speaker 1>me and I will post it. But yeah, it's a

0:43:21.440 --> 0:43:23.799
<v Speaker 1>peace of mind and it's it's not too hard to

0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:25.560
<v Speaker 1>get that training. So go out there and do that.

0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Wonderful.

0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Do it with someone you love, do it, do it

0:43:28.200 --> 0:43:30.440
<v Speaker 1>for fun, do it with your friend, make it. Do

0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:35.160
<v Speaker 1>it on a date. Yeah, find someone on Tuesday. Yeah, yeah,

0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:36.560
<v Speaker 1>do it. Let us know how that goes.

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Hey, what's your favorite color? So what are you doing

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:41.440
<v Speaker 2>this weekend? Wanted to a stop the bleed course.

0:43:41.880 --> 0:43:45.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that's very sexy, Ei one hundred percent be

0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:51.360
<v Speaker 1>into that exactly. Yeah, please don't DM me with potential

0:43:51.400 --> 0:43:54.600
<v Speaker 1>still the bleeping no jams, No, no, don't do it.

0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:57.640
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, hopefully that helps people. Wonderful.

0:43:59.000 --> 0:44:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, James, thank you so much for this awesome information.

0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:04.319
<v Speaker 2>It's been an absolute pleasure being on the show with you.

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:09.560
<v Speaker 2>And we'll post links in the chat or post sorry,

0:44:09.600 --> 0:44:14.000
<v Speaker 2>post link the chat that we have. Gosh, exactly that

0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:17.120
<v Speaker 2>that's that's my twitch shit coming through. Will post links

0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:21.359
<v Speaker 2>in the description of the episode, and yeah, I look

0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 2>forward to doing this again with you.

0:44:23.040 --> 0:44:25.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Daniel, talking of your twitch shit, where can people

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:26.080
<v Speaker 1>find you twitch? Shit.

0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:27.840
<v Speaker 2>They don't need to find me anywhere, but if you

0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:30.080
<v Speaker 2>want to find me, you can twitch your address, TV,

0:44:30.120 --> 0:44:33.960
<v Speaker 2>slash Twitch dot tv, slash DJ Underscore Daniel d A

0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:36.960
<v Speaker 2>n L. And if you want to come ask me

0:44:37.000 --> 0:44:39.759
<v Speaker 2>what Robert smells like. I will not ban you, but

0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:41.799
<v Speaker 2>I will time you out for ten minutes, so you know,

0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:44.120
<v Speaker 2>just you know, know that I'm happy to have whoever

0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:46.319
<v Speaker 2>wants to come watch the watch the twitch stream, but

0:44:47.280 --> 0:44:50.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to answer any weird questions about my coworkers.

0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:56.360
<v Speaker 1>As you should be. Thank you Daniel, Thank you James.

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