1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. This is the Bloomberg 2 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: dayba QT podcast, available every morning on Apple, Spotify or 3 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: wherever you listen. It's Monday, the tenth of June. In London, 4 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: I'm Caroline Hepke and. 5 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: In Brussels I'm Stephen Carroll. Coming up today, As EU 6 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: voters boost their support for far right candidates in France, Germany, 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: Italy and beyond, we look at what it means for 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: the Block plus French President Emmanuel Macron calls a snap 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: legislative election in a bid to halt Marine le Penn's advance. 10 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: And here in the UK, labor U turns some plans 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: to reintroduce a tax free pension limit. As all the 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: political parties finalize their manifestos, let's start with a roundup 13 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: of our top stories. 14 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 2: Emmanuel Macron has called a snap legislative election in France 15 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: after his party came a distant second to the far 16 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: right in Sunday's European Parliament vote. Marine Leapenn's national rally 17 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: scored more than double the fourteen points six percent attributed 18 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: to the President's Renaissance Party. Speaking in an address to 19 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: the nation after polls closed, Macron said the National Assembly 20 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: election was a chance to determine France's future. 21 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: So this is young, this is a serious and weighty decision. 22 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: Above all, it is an act of trust, confidence. 23 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 3: You mission compatriots, the ability. 24 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: Of the French people to make the just choice and 25 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: for future generations. 26 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 2: Emmanuel Macron speaking there, his position as president won't be 27 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: affected by the vote. His party and their allies are 28 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: currently the largest group in the French National Assembly, but 29 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: don't hold a majority. Far right parties also make gains 30 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 2: elsewhere in Europe. In Germany, Chancellor Olaf Schultz Social Democrats 31 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 2: recorded their worst ever EU Parliament result, falling to third 32 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: place behind the far right Alternative for Germany and the 33 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: center right Christian Democrats. Meanwhile, in Italy, Prime Minister Georgia 34 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: Maloney's right wing Brothers of Italy Party one between twenty 35 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: seven and thirty one percent of the vote, compared with 36 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: just six percent in twenty nineteen. Despite these results, the 37 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: centrist alliance, which back Ursula Vandelion to become EU Commissioned President, 38 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: maintained its majority, led by her European People's Party. 39 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: We won the European elections. We are by far the 40 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: strongest party. We are the anchor of stability. 41 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: Ursulavangelion, speaking at the European Parliament after the election results, 42 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: she plans to begin talks with her allies in the 43 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: Socialist and Democrats and Centrist renew groups on securing their 44 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: support from today. The eurofell to its weakest level in 45 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 2: nearly a month as markets pars the results from across 46 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: Europe and assessed the risks from the snap election. In France, 47 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: currency weakened buy as much as zero point four percent 48 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: against the dollar, retreating alongside French bond futures. Traders have 49 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 2: also paired bets on further interest rate cuts from the 50 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 2: European Central Bank after data out on Friday show the 51 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 2: US job market holding up better than expected. 52 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, let's turn to Israel, where Benny Gantz has resigned 53 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: from the emergency government and Corps for elections there, a 54 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: centrist member of Israel's three man war cabinet, gans criticized 55 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: Prime Minister Benjamin et Nyahu over his handling of the 56 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: war against Hamas, saying that a true victory puts quote 57 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: bringing home the hostages above political survival. His resignation announcement 58 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: was postponed by a day after the Israeli military freed 59 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: four hostages in an operation in central Gaza. More than 60 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy Palestinians were killed in the operation, 61 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: according to the Hamas run Health Ministry. Now, the Labor 62 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: Party has scrapped plans to cap tax free pensions gains, 63 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: leaving them with even fewer paths to raise government revenue. 64 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: The change comes as UK political parties finalize their election 65 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: manifestos this week. Boomberg's James Walcock has more. 66 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 4: There is an internal slogan in Labor HQ no complacency. 67 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 4: The party have a twenty point lead in the polls 68 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 4: three weeks ahead of an election, and yet they are 69 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 4: actively trying to make themselves a smaller target by ditching 70 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 4: difficult policies. Leader Keith Starmer has also ruled out raising 71 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 4: income tax, corporation tax and VAT. The Conservatives, meanwhile, have 72 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 4: the opposite problem. Former Defense Secrety of Liam Fox says 73 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 4: it's time to move on from party leader Richie Sinak's 74 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 4: early exit from D Day commemorations. 75 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 5: He apologized, he said it was wrong. Let's get over it. 76 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 5: People make misjudgments. Let's talk about what really matters. DD 77 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 5: was talking about the security of Europe. There is a 78 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 5: threat and I think the most important thing is keeping 79 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 5: our country safe. 80 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 4: The Tori's historically poor position in the polls means Liberal 81 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 4: Democrats from Reform increasingly see a chance of becoming England's 82 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 4: second largest party. 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Steven KOMORNI, you've 91 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: been in Brussels today and over the weekend, and you 92 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: were there Friday for us as well, so it's been 93 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: a really busy weekend for you. The European election results, 94 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: they've caused something of a shock wave in parts In 95 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: many parts of Europe, I mean a push truck to 96 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: the right, if not really a kind of landslide for 97 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: far right parties. How did these results do you think 98 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: will they be seen in Brussels? How were they received 99 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: last night? 100 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: Well, it was interesting watching the country by country projections 101 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 2: rolling in because it depended on when polls had closed. 102 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,679 Speaker 2: When we heard how the picture was shaping up. Germany 103 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: was one of the earlier results or projections that we 104 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: had yesterday in the European Parliament, and immediately it was 105 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 2: very clear it was a very bad night for German 106 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: Chancellor Olaf Schultz. The AfD, despite the problems that they'd 107 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: had in their campaign and the controversies that had surrounded 108 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 2: that party, had still managed to increase their share of 109 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 2: the vote reasonably significantly as well. But it was clearly 110 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 2: bad news for Olaff Schultz. Then came the exit polls 111 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: from France, showing, in fact results that were not terribly 112 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 2: far from what opinion polls had been projecting, but nonetheless 113 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: putting Emmanuel Macron's Renaissance Party in a distant second to 114 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 2: the Party of Marrying Lupen the national rally, which came 115 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 2: in with just under thirty two percent of the vote. 116 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: It was clearly a very bad night for Emmanual Macron. 117 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 2: Then we heard that he was going to make this 118 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: national address and this shock announcement of a legislative vote 119 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: coming now at the end of this month of first 120 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 2: round and a second round on the seventh of July. 121 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 2: It's worth pointing out that in other parts of the 122 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:56,559 Speaker 2: continent things looked better for the incumbents. Georgia Maloney's Brothers 123 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 2: of Italy party did extremely well in Italy as had 124 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 2: been expected. Pedro Sanchez and Spain his left wing his 125 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 2: center Left party held its position and its vote chare 126 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: in the elections. There So a contrasting picture from some 127 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 2: and certainly the overall picture from Europe in fact not 128 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 2: dramatically changed for the centrist parties, but some big shocks, 129 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 2: particularly in France and Germany. 130 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fascinating, isn't it. Also the interplay of the 131 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: European elections with domestic and politics. And we're worth adding, 132 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: of course that the UK not voting. This is the 133 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: first time actually the UK is not voting in these 134 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: European elections, obviously post Brexit. But very interesting, as you say, 135 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: the shock decision then for Macua to call a domestic 136 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: legislative election on the back of you know, supranational European results. 137 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's often these elections are often described as being 138 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: second order elections, where we do seem to see voters 139 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 2: vote more towards the extremes than they do in the center. 140 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 2: So that made it even more interesting than a man 141 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: Macron decided to make this decision to call these snap 142 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: elections for later this month. Of course, Macron himself won't 143 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: be affected by this. He'll still be president no matter 144 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: how these elections go, but it sets up for what 145 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: could be a very interesting battle for who will become 146 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: the biggest party in the National Assembly. At the moment, 147 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: Macron has the is the Macron has Allies are the 148 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: biggest group in the Parliament, but they don't currently have 149 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: a majority. Let's dig into some of the reaction in 150 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 2: France this morning. We've got Bloomberg's Carroling Connor with us 151 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 2: from Paris. Carollen, good morning. This is a big gamble 152 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: for Emmanuel Macron. Why did he do it? 153 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 5: You know? 154 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 3: Some say it's a gamble, some say it's actually pretty audacious. 155 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 3: Because I was reading out a quote from the forma 156 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 3: chief economist from the IMF for Blanche. He says, well, 157 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 3: if the national rally gets a majority in the next 158 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 3: of French Parliament. Then you get two messy years in 159 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 3: French politics, but you don't get My independ in twenty 160 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 3: twenty seven. So perhaps that's what my is trying to 161 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 3: do with the wake up call he's been saying over 162 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 3: the past a few days before even these European elections, 163 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 3: calling the French to wake up to face this far right, 164 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 3: these demagogues as he called them last night in his 165 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 3: speech when he announced this nap elections. Clearly there is 166 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 3: a high risk if you look at the European elections 167 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 3: results in France last night, because Jordan Vanella, the candidate 168 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 3: of My Independence Party, got thirty two percent, that's more 169 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: than double the score of Knew Europe, the party of 170 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 3: Emmanuel Macon, and actually, interestingly coming third, you got a 171 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 3: comeback of the Socialists with fl Gluxman at around fourteen percent. 172 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 3: But clearly this was seen as the only solution by many, 173 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 3: including the Republicans, who have been supporting the fragile majority 174 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 3: that Macon has got at the moment at the National Assembly. 175 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 2: Karlie, what would it mean for policymaker in France if 176 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:06,599 Speaker 2: these European election results were replicated in the National Assembly, 177 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: If a Manual Macrond were to lose a big part 178 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 2: of his majority. 179 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 3: You know, Stephen, the system for the legislative elections is 180 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 3: quite different because it's a two round system. There was 181 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,599 Speaker 3: only run round for these European elections, and usually this 182 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 3: two run system puts the extremes, puts the far right 183 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 3: at a disadvantage. So we'll see how this spans out 184 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 3: for these legislative elections. It really depends on the kind 185 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 3: of majority he is getting. Is he going to be 186 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 3: able to form some alliances perhaps with the Republicans again 187 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 3: like he did during the first part of this mandatee 188 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two, or is it going to be 189 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 3: a large majority of the far right. And then we 190 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 3: have so called coabitation, which means in France that the 191 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 3: Prime Minister is from a party and the president is 192 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 3: from a different party. As you know, this has happened 193 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 3: three times under the fifth through public so this could 194 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 3: happen again and clearly that would mean a clear shift 195 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 3: of policy at the European and at the French level 196 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 3: away from trade deals, away from climate change, and perhaps 197 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 3: more focus on the issues of migration, border policy, defense spending. 198 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 2: Karling, you've brought up one of my favorite words in 199 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: French politics, which is cohabitation, which covers good and bad 200 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: relationships between parties. But certainly very interesting to watch how 201 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 2: the rest of this campaign plays out. Carolyn Connau in Paris, 202 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 2: thank you very much for joining us this morning, Caroline. 203 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: This is of course one part of the broader picture 204 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: here in the European Union. As to how this plays 205 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: out from here, it's interesting if you do look at 206 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 2: what happens next at an EU level, because that process 207 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 2: will continue no matter what's happening in France. We are 208 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 2: seeing those centrist parties, that alliance that backed Ursula Vonderline 209 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 2: having the majority, which would normally allow them to move 210 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: forward to be a to nominate or to support her 211 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: in a second term as EU Commissioned President. But the 212 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 2: nomination power does lie with European leaders, so it will 213 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 2: have to be their choice to nominate Erslavandeline for another 214 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: term as European Commission President. The matts in the Parliament 215 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 2: look good, so it does look like that they're going 216 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: into these negotiations in a position of strength. That was 217 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: certainly the message that we heard from Urcelavangeline last night, 218 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 2: underlining and actually when I spoke to Manfred Weber, who's 219 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 2: the president of the European People's Party. He also made 220 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 2: the point that they won the election, they gained seats, 221 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 2: which actually was a very good performance for them in 222 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 2: this as well. So they're going into a position now 223 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: where they're going to start talks today with their partners, 224 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 2: the Socialist and Democrats and the Centrist for Anew group 225 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 2: as well, to draw up what they suppose their program 226 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: of support is preparing for that European parliamentary vote. And 227 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 2: then we'll have the leaders start to discuss who is 228 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: they're going to put forward. Will it be erslavanderline or 229 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 2: could there be a surprise there as well, And those 230 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 2: discussions will start at a dinner this day now next 231 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 2: week and informal dinner where those discussions will start too. 232 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 2: But lots of other interesting parts of this election to 233 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 2: dig into as well. 234 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, indeed, And I found it very interesting that 235 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: Carolyne Connan talked about how it was an audacious move 236 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: by Emmanuel Macaw. I mean, also quite a risky one 237 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: in terms of a sylvonderline though, you know, perhaps the 238 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: most recognizable face of European politics, you know, outside of Europe, 239 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: what chance is there that she will now continue in 240 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: her role. What else might von Delane want to do 241 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: in terms of the agenda that she will have You know, 242 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 1: for Europe. 243 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 2: It looks good and her party is very much pushing 244 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 2: that she should be the name that goes forward to 245 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 2: the European Parliament for a vote. But even though they 246 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 2: do still have a majority, which is important, it's worth 247 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 2: remembering the last time around there was also talks with 248 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 2: the Greens about getting them on board. We spoke to 249 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 2: the Green one of the Green's lead candidates last night 250 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 2: as well, who told us that they would be open 251 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 2: to discussions with Arslavanderline and her party over supporting her 252 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 2: in that vote in the European Parliament, but they would 253 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 2: want to see unsurprisingly, climate policies put centrally into the 254 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 2: program for the next five years for the European Commission. 255 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 2: I put that to Manfred Weber actually, who was the 256 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: president of the the EPP, and he said, actually, the 257 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: Greens have some convincing to do on their side as well, 258 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 2: because they haven't supported some of the key measures up 259 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 2: utt Low as well. So there is some horse trading 260 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: that's going to happen behind the scenes. There's been a 261 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 2: lot of talk before this election about how the Arslavangeline 262 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 2: might seek support from some of those further right parties 263 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: as well, particularly in the European Conservative and reformist groups. 264 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: There was lots of talk around Arslvangeline forming alliances with 265 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: Georgia Maloney's party as well. It doesn't look at this 266 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: stage like that's going to be necessary, but all of 267 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 2: that horse trading still has to play out, and we 268 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 2: may see some parties switch groups as well. So the 269 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 2: matt isn't entirely clear, but certainly the position from here 270 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: looks good for them. Also, it's worth pointing out, Caroline, 271 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 2: the number of politicians I spoke to last night who 272 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 2: talked about having to reflect on what these results mean, 273 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 2: this increase in far right representation, what does it mean 274 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 2: about what they're going to have to address. Looking at 275 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 2: the opinion polls out of France yesterday in after the 276 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 2: European election vote as well, the question of immigration very 277 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: high for voters, The question of inflation and purchasing power 278 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: also very key as well, the environment, health systems falling 279 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 2: down the list there of priorities for voters that's going 280 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 2: to be in the minds of politicians as they seek 281 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 2: to assemble this governing coalition or this governing alliance. 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