1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huttle on Giants 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: dot com, The Giant the Giants Podcastwork. Welcome to another 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: edition of the Giant Subtle Podcast. Happy Thanksgiving everybody. Giants 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: playing in Dallas four thirty on Thursday, so an abbreviated 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: week as we get you ready for kickoff. Just a reminder, 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 1: The John Suttle Podcast is brought to you by psc 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: and G Energy Efficiency. For game time and anytime, visit 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: ps EG dot com slash Giants for discounts, rebates and 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: home energy assessments. All right, Pat show Today, I'm gonna 10 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: talk to Mark Lewinsky, Giants offensive lineman Lance Meddle and 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: Paulatino preview the Cowboys. They go under the hood down 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: in Big d with Cowboys played by playboys Brad Sham 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: and then Bob popa sist down with Giants, said coach 14 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 1: Briant table and don't forget folks, go back on your 15 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: Giants little podcast feed. The prior episode, Bob Papa talks 16 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: to Eli Manning about the Giants Big one against Dallas 17 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: UH in December of which basically propelled the Giants into 18 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: the postseason. They would not have made the players with 19 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: that victory and of course onto a Super Bowl championship. 20 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: Go back to last week? Might do be? Greg Olsen 21 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: was also really interesting. I suggest you go back and 22 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: check that out. All right, let's rock and roll. We 23 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: lead off with my interview with Giants offensive lineman Mark Lewinsky. Mark, 24 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 1: how are you man? Good? How are you doing? I'm 25 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: doing great? All right, let's let's get right to it. 26 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: How much did you guys even go back and like 27 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: watch the tape last week? You have like two days 28 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: to get ready. Yeah, I'm saying a lot of its 29 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: accountability on ourselves to make sure that we're watching what 30 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: you know, right after the game, make sure that we 31 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: get all the corrections that are needed, and uh, you 32 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: know most of it's uh, if there was any key 33 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: things that we maybe need to work on or have 34 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: an emphasis on, but you know, it rolls right into 35 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: you know, a short, short week. You know, we have 36 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: a game on Thursday, so we gotta make sure that 37 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: we're preparing and doing everything that you can and whatever 38 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: may apply from the last game use but you know, 39 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: we had to just wipe it clean from that moment. 40 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: What were your takeaways when you had a chance to 41 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: look at the tape. UM. It just you know, the 42 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: things that we're talking about all the time. It's it's 43 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: either we're executing or not. Um, you know, fundamentals things 44 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: like that. So just making sure that we're focused in 45 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: and on all those key things that we talked about 46 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: all the time. UM. And when you know, we just 47 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: got behind a little bit. UM, So we were trying 48 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: to play catch up. Anything Detroit did that was special 49 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: to slow down the running game. I mis kwan there 50 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: was his lowest yardage total of the year. UM. I 51 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: think we just send an execute um in some moments 52 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: and we miss some things that when we you know, 53 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: I look back on film, there's there's even things that 54 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: were there, but we just we just didn't go the 55 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: right direction or something, you know where there was something 56 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: maybe open that we just fell right into things that 57 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: maybe if we had a second chance, we would have done. Now, 58 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: you had a lot of guys coming in out of 59 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: the lineup to right. Tyree Phillips had to leave the game, 60 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 1: John Flisciana had to leave the game, which means you 61 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: had different guys on either side of you, and two 62 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: guys in Nick Gates and Matt Peir who were talented, 63 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: but they were hurt in the preseason, so you didn't 64 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: even get you know, spring and summer reps with these guys. 65 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: So what was it like just trying to get in 66 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: sync with those guys but two brand you guys next 67 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: to you in the middle of the game. Um, I 68 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: was actually happy during the week that those guys were 69 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: actually getting um splitting reps. So I actually had some 70 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: feel for that, and uh, I felt comfortable as soon 71 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: as they come in. But the way that our mentality 72 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: is next man up. But you know, that's a big 73 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: thing is how we can get some of those guys 74 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: in the rotation even if they're not showing up on 75 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: game day, making sure that they're prepared. You know, we're 76 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: always switching around with even you know, like the practices 77 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: we got now it's what I situations. Maybe give a 78 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: guy a rep here there, Maybe throw the get another 79 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: guy in center, because if one guy goes down, then 80 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: maybe you know, somebody from guard has to play the 81 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: other tackle or you know, vice versa. So we're always 82 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: in the rotation of that. And I've had some of 83 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: the experience even last season where I've had um some 84 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: guys get hurt even when I was on my right side, 85 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: So I've had the experience to just make sure that 86 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: you stay with the communication, try to keep it all 87 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: the same so when it when it comes to that 88 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: moment that you can just just say and do, what 89 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: can you do this week? Now, it's short week, it's 90 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: walk through practices. You're not having real practices. You don't 91 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: even know who's gonna start, right, Tyree Phillips, John Fliciano 92 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: as if this recording are going to be basically game 93 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: time decisions. So what can you guys do this week 94 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: in this walk through scenario so that no matter who plays, 95 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna be on the same page on Thursday. Um, 96 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: it's it's having the game plan and executing what we're 97 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: talking about. Everybody that we're talking about that might be 98 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: heard or not, they're all in the same meetings, we're 99 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: all taking talking on the same language. So whoever is 100 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: in there, that's what's gonna happen. You know, that's where 101 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna go out there and execute, and that's our plan. 102 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: So we just got to make sure that we're all 103 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: on the same page. We're all on the same meetings 104 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: communicating with one another. Regardless the guy that might be 105 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: this supposed starter needs to talk to the second and 106 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: third guy for whatever might happen, or if somebody has 107 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: to go down. So the Giants have had one of 108 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: the best running games in the league all year. A 109 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: lot of that's the offensive line. What what's collected? Why 110 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: has the run game been so effective? Um? I think 111 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: it just staying with it even when if you might 112 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: get a play that might not work out. I think 113 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: it's just going back to it. I think that's what 114 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: it really comes down to, trusting it, you know, not 115 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: getting scared when there might be a bad situation, because 116 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: there's sometimes that that the defense might just scheme something 117 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: up where you may have not a known or they 118 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: just fall right into something or somebody, you know, whatever happens, 119 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: it's just continue the process of trusting that, uh, you know, 120 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 1: trusting the run and having to back be on the 121 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: same page with us. Yeah, and you guys have had 122 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: comebacks in the fourth quarter down two scores, where you know, 123 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: usually teams are throwing the ball. In this situation, you 124 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: guys have had comebacks running the ball. It's it's something 125 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: you don't usually see. And as an offensive lineman, you 126 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: must love that you have coaches that are willing to 127 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: even stick to the run game when you're down two 128 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: scores in the fourth quarter. Right, yeah, Um, that's what 129 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: we've talked about all your you know, going even into 130 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: O t as. You know, there was a big emphasis 131 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: making sure that all the past schemes and everything we're 132 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: in place. But you know, there was there was a 133 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: big reminder that when it comes down to it, we 134 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: might not put as many as uch time into it 135 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: during practice. That's something that we were going to lean 136 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: on and focus on. So I think it's just keep 137 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: trusting the process and what we're talking about. Just keep 138 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: leaning on it, um and setting ourselves up for success. 139 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: And I think they're having games this year where you 140 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: guys have started slowly marking the run game right, but 141 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: then you've made adjustments in in the second half you've 142 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: done better. Why do you think that you've guys have 143 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: been able to you know, change or make adjustments. You're 144 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: just get better as these games have gone along running 145 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: the ball, Um. I think it's going to the you know, 146 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: there might be certain plays that we figure out they're 147 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: not gonna work the best for us, and it's lining 148 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: up and seeing what what might have worked or think, 149 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: you know, the grippings of plays and making sure that 150 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: we just continue with those, make sure that we're running 151 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: the plays that we had success in and setting up 152 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: off those plays. Yeah, talking to some of your fellow 153 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: offensive lineman, they've told me this is as big of 154 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: a bag of run schemes that most offenses have. Right 155 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: you guys will run zone, your own gap, you run. Man, 156 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: Does that give you guys even more options than an 157 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: ability to adjust during the game when you've practiced all 158 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: these different schemes and you have so many different things 159 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: you can go to. Yeah, we we work them countless 160 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: and just keep running. And you know, we try to 161 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: keep a little bit of tempo with those as well, 162 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: just to keep the defenses off guard. Um. But I 163 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: think it's great to have all those abilities just so 164 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: that you know, we might go in the game, like 165 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: I was saying, and there might be a certain play 166 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: that they're ready and handled, but they might load up 167 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: the box in the middle of then we could be 168 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: able to do something outside vice versa, or have a 169 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: little bit of deception, whatever we have to do. So 170 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: we have all those plays up every week, um, and 171 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: we have all those ready to go. At any time. 172 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: Is there a bread and butter run play for you 173 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: guys this year? Is you're a scheme that you think 174 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: you're that all right? If we're gonna we need a yard, 175 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: this is what we're doing, We need a couple of yards, 176 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: this is what we're doing. Or is it really a 177 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: week to week based on what the opponents showing you 178 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: a type of deal. Yeah, I think it really comes 179 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: down to what the defense is, what the schemes are. Um, 180 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: you know, there's some moments where you just have to 181 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: be ready to get the yard that you need too, 182 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: regardless of what they're in. Um, you know, sometimes they'll 183 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: load load the whole box up there. But I was like, hey, 184 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: they might know that we're running that play there, and 185 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: that's what it is. It's so it's just executing, making 186 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: sure that we get the pad level and getting those 187 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: yards when we need them. As a guy that's up front, 188 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: can you explain for fans the type of impact having 189 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: a quarterback like Daniel that can keep it on some 190 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: of these run plays can have on the defense when 191 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: you're seeing them scheme and react to what you're doing. Yeah, 192 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: just what you're saying. Um, there's even times where I'm like, 193 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: I'm I'm really glad that he took it because they 194 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: put they had every single guy in there, So you know, 195 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: there's times it's you know, it's having the ability to 196 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: have a guy that can run and be able to 197 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: make a play, because you know, there might be a 198 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: moment where we're like, oh my goodness, I'm glad that 199 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: he took off with it because there was an extra 200 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: guy that they brought from somewhere or safety or you know, 201 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: some blitz. But he was Those are the things that 202 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: he's able to see and he has control of. Is 203 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 1: that something you could have went through? You think a 204 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: little bit more earlier last week when you saw how 205 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: much the lines were were kind of stack in your 206 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: like primary run lines. Um, you know, possibility. But at 207 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: the time, we're just going out there running the place 208 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: that we've you know, that we designed up. Um. You know, 209 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: we can always go back and look at things and say, hey, 210 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: we could have done this, but um, I think they 211 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: were just making sure that we execute or maybe seeing 212 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: those things a little bit faster and adjusting on the flood. 213 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: Are you like in New York having funnier? Yeah, I'm 214 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: saying it's I'm really happy to be this close to 215 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: home as well. You know this, It's it took me, 216 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: you know, eight years to get within under two hour 217 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: drive of being home. So it's it's been a great 218 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: and blessing to have all the resources and different things 219 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: to do and have the ability just jump in the 220 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: car when we have some time off and just be 221 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: able to see family or do some kind of vent 222 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: or something like that. So is that the play after Thanksgiving? Uh? Yeah, 223 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: you know once Thanksgiving this it would be great to 224 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: be able to just get in the car and and 225 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: see and eat some turkey with with some family and 226 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: go back. Awesome. Let's talk about the opponent real quick 227 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: on Thursday more before we say goodbye Cowboys. You guys 228 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: have seen him once this year. A Ready, what's the 229 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: major challenge that their defensive front presents an offensive line? Um? 230 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: I think it's them having the ability to, uh, you know, 231 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: once they get in the past situations to just you know, 232 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: create different problems. Um. But I think it really comes 233 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: down to just making sure that we have a game plan, 234 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: you know, executing what we see and fundamentals. Mainly, I'm saying, 235 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: they just gotta make sure that we keep the guys 236 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: in front of us, make sure we're all on the 237 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: same page. Um, you know, and we gotta do our 238 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: We gotta do whatever we can to just put ourselves 239 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: in situations to be in and more manageable downs, which 240 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: comes into you know, running situations and starting it off early. So, um, 241 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: you know, we gotta just execute and do what that 242 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: we're asked of. You know, you talked about the run game. 243 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: They've had two teams run for over two hundred yards 244 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: against them in the last three weeks. You guys faced 245 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: them earlier in the year. Um, do you have a 246 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: pretty good feel of how they're trying to cover the 247 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: run and what some of the things you guys can 248 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: do to have success in that area Without giving away 249 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: state secrets, of course, yeah, I'm saying there's there's always 250 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: a plan that will have for defenses, and and we 251 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: have to make sure that we're ready for whatever that 252 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: they may throw in. There might be a different personnels 253 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: that they throw in, So I think it's having the 254 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: ability to uh, you know, diagnose what they're what they're 255 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: showing and presenting us and go from there. Um, you know, 256 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: we just you can't just go off one play or 257 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: two plays that we're gonna run. And I think it's more, um, 258 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: you know, getting into situations and being able to diagnose 259 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: what's going on. You mentioned when you get into those 260 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: throwd in loongs and if you know, trying not to 261 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: play from behind, but if you are, that's when all 262 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: the twist and stunts come out. Right. They run more 263 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: twist and stunts than any other team in football according 264 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: to a lot of the metrics. As an offensive line, 265 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: what do you guys have to do well to deal 266 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: with all that slants and movements and stuff that they 267 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: present as a defensive front. Im just like I said, 268 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: we got to make sure that we communicate and make 269 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: sure we're all and say and make sure that we're going, 270 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: you know, the same direction, making sure that we're ideing 271 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: the guys properly, and making sure that we're just getting 272 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: a good tempo to get it up to the line 273 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 1: so that we can see what's in front of us 274 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: and uh, and just making sure that we're saying what 275 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: our fundamentals and all the things that we talked about 276 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: throughout O t S up to this point. The final 277 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: question on the Cowboys, is this a deal where you 278 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: get out of the huddle and you say, all right, 279 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: where's eleven is? He can be anywhere, and we've got 280 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: to make sure where this guy is before we, you know, 281 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: get into our snap here. Yeah, they have a lot 282 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: of guys, so I think it's making sure that we're 283 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: you know, what we're communicating, make sure that we're all 284 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: on the same page. Um. And and just like you said, 285 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: you have to make sure that you know where he 286 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: is at all times. But at the same point, we 287 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: have to make sure that we're blocking the guy that's 288 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: in front of us, because he's not gonna be every 289 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: guy is not gonna have him. So it's it's making 290 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: sure that we're just lining up and doing the things 291 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: that we're asked of four players of five plus sex. 292 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: They got a bunch of guys. Final question, are you 293 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: excited to play on Thanksgiving? I have have you planned 294 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving before? Is this really cool for you? It 295 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: will be something that definitely, notching the ball is something 296 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: I haven't done, so it would be great to be 297 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: able to be one of those three games that are 298 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: will be on And you know, when you go back 299 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: and as a kidda, this is one of the things 300 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: I think of is you know, you're you're you're spending 301 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: time with family and you're watching football games all day. 302 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 1: So having the ability to be one of those teams 303 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: and being on TV, I think is really cool. Mark. 304 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving and thanks so much for the time best 305 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: still against Dallas. Yeah, thank you very much. Happy Holidays. Hey, 306 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: Giant fans, don't miss the second Legacy Game and MetLife 307 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: Stadium on Sunday, December four. The team will be back 308 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: in their throwback uniforms from the eighties and early nineties 309 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: as they host the Washington Commanders. The stadium will be 310 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: branded and throwback designs, including an exclusive collectible pennant for 311 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: the first thirty fans in attendance. Limited tickets are still 312 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 1: available as a Giants dot com slash tickets to secure 313 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: your seat today. All right, now, let's check out the 314 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: Giants opponent this week. The Giants, of course, played the 315 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 1: Cowboys and lost them on Monday Night Football in septembery. 316 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: Cooper Rush was their quarterback then Dak Prescott since has returned. 317 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: Paul Detino on Lands Metal Talk to Cowboys play by 318 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: Playboys Brad Sham and gets the low down of what's 319 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,239 Speaker 1: happening down in Big date. Giants are playing on Thanksgiving 320 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: for the first time since two thousand seventeen, and this 321 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: year they renew their rivalry with the Dallas Cowboys, who 322 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: won the first meeting this season. They met Life Stadium 323 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: in Week three twenty three to sixteen. To get more 324 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: into this week's opponent, we're now joined by the play 325 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: by play announcer for the Cowboys radio network, none other 326 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: than Brad sham Right, you got Lance Meadow and Paul 327 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: de Tino here on Giants dot Com. Greatly appreciate the 328 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: time today, Hope pall as well. How's everything on your end? 329 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: You know it's Thanksgiving? How mad? Can it? Be? Happy 330 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: to be with you guys, Absolutely, it's a pleasure to 331 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: have you on the program. And Brod, I want to 332 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: start big picture perspective. We know the Cowboys had that 333 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: rough loss to the Packers. Well boy, did they bounce 334 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: back and then some with the largest margin of victory 335 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: in a road win in Cowboys history by beating the 336 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: Vikings forty two three and this is now four games 337 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: back for Dak Prescott. Last time the Giants saw the Cowboys, 338 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: it was Cooper Rush unders answer what has changed? What 339 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: has evolved? Maybe from an offensive standpoint, since the last 340 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: time the Giants met the Cowboys. It's funny he asked that. 341 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: I was talking to a couple of Cowboys offensive players 342 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: about that very thing yesterday, trying to get their opinion. 343 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: The first thing that kind of jumps out at you 344 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: his personnel, which wasn't just Prescott, although that's obviously an 345 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: important part of their identity and what they do. But 346 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: they didn't have Dalton Schultz at all in that game. 347 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: He had uh sprained his knee. Now he's not back, 348 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: but he's functional. They didn't have Michael Gallup yet. Um 349 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: uh the young the young left tackle uh, Tyler Smith 350 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: was in his third game. Um. And so there's there 351 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: was a lot of stuff, and they were really trying 352 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: to survive. I think at that point that I'm not 353 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: sure they knew exactly what they were capable of offensively 354 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: with rush. That would have been that was Week three, right, 355 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: so that would have been his second game starting. UM. 356 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: So and then you you always hope, and I know 357 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: the Giants would say this, um injuries aside, you always 358 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: hope that by the time you get the week ten 359 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: or eleven, you're a much more advanced football team. In 360 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: every respect, especially offensively then you were when the season started. 361 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: So I think they're you know, whether they'll be good 362 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: enough on Thursday will find out. But I think they're 363 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: Their personnel is better than it was in that game, 364 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: and I think they have kind of evolved somewhat offensively. 365 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: I don't think they're where they're going yet, but but 366 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: they're better. You know your point about pre Scott being back, 367 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: just however many games it's been he and I don't. 368 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm not for playing the starters in the preseason, and 369 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: he did participated practices, but um, you know he didn't. 370 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: He didn't play well in the first game and then 371 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: he got hurt and then he missed the next four five. 372 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: So he came back against doing this from memory, he 373 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: came back against Detroit, and I didn't think they really 374 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: opened up the offense. They kind of they kind of 375 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: game enough to make sure he could function, and then 376 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: they were better against the Bears, and then, uh, I 377 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: mean offensively they needed to do more than they did 378 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 1: and they had an opportunity to do more than they 379 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: did in Green Bay, and then Sunday they were pretty good. 380 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: So that's I think he's He's not in week ten form, 381 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: you know he's in. He's in about the start of 382 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: the second order form, you know, week five or six 383 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: something like that for him from what he's played, well, Brad, 384 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: given what you just said about Prescott and obviously some 385 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: of the passing game elements coming back into the lineup 386 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: that did not play against the Giants in Week three, 387 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: I'm thinking the Cowboys are going to go into this 388 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: game emphasizing the run for two reasons. One is the 389 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: Giants rush defense has been very inconsistent. And two, as 390 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: I look at Dallas's numbers, it was back in Week 391 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: three when Pollard ran for one oh five and Elligott 392 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: ran for seventy three. That was their most potent rushing 393 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: duo combination game of the season. Would you agree or 394 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: not agree that they would be on the ground game. Yeah, 395 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: I would agree that would be their starting point emphasis. 396 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: But um, I think the reason, the main reason is 397 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: that's that's who they are trying to be. That's who 398 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: they said they wanted to be when the season started. Now, 399 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 1: what Pollard has been able to do has kind of 400 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: reinforced that feeling, I think. But I think it, um. 401 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: You know, football teams always tell you it's not about them. 402 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: It's about us um and then when they get into 403 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: the game, they still have to play to what they're facing. 404 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: But having said all that, I do think that it's 405 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: not because the Giants is what the Giants have done 406 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: against the runs so much as it is they just 407 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: think that's that's their best way to function offensively, and 408 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: it makes the passing game a little bit more efficient. 409 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: They're adequate a wide receiver, but they're they're not the 410 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: best in the league by any means. And when you 411 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 1: have then good runners who can help set that up, 412 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: I think that's the way to go, and I think 413 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: that's how they feel. Brad Paul brought up the rushing 414 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: numbers from that Week three matchup against the Giants, and 415 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: you look at Tony Pollard, it's not just what he's 416 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: doing on the ground, it's what he's also doing as 417 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: a receiver. He's got a hundred plus grimed yards in 418 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: each of the last four and he has six scrimmage 419 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: touchdowns since Week eight. So clearly it seems as if 420 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: Kelly Moore is emphasizing to get him more touches. And 421 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,959 Speaker 1: I know Cowboys fans, I believe we're calling for him 422 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: to get the ball more. What exactly are they doing 423 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: what has changed that they're now focusing on him more. 424 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 1: Is it the Zeke injury that helped accelerate that, or 425 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: is it the fact that they believe they can tap 426 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: into this unique skill set here. You know, I don't 427 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: think it's changed so much as it is evolution. Um. 428 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: He It's not like he's never caught the ball. He 429 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: was mostly a receiver in college. Now you can make 430 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: the uh assertion that he's a much better runner than 431 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: pure receiver. But Sunday was a good example of how 432 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: one of the touchdowns, the passing touchdowns to him. When 433 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: they watched Minnesota tape, they thought they had a chance 434 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: to get a match up that they liked, and so 435 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a swing pass, a wheel route. 436 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: But they were able to identify the defense and get 437 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: the matchup that they hoped to get and then just 438 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: put the ball on him. He just catches it and runs. 439 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: So it's not intricate, but it's kind of situational. I 440 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: don't think they've changed, They've just given him the ball more. 441 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: You know, Elliott missed some time. Elliott was really running well, 442 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: and he's still running well. But he does. He's looked. 443 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: He's a seventh year back who leads the league in 444 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: touches since he came in the league. There's not a 445 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: back going maybe Derrick Henry, but I'm not sure he's human. Um. 446 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,719 Speaker 1: There's not really not a back going who has the 447 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: explosiveness that he had uh in year seven, that he 448 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: had in year one, especially when they touch it that much. 449 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: That's it's just too punishing and that's not the nature 450 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: of the beast right now. Pollard's in year four and 451 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: four years from now, he won't be as explosive as 452 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: he is right now, but he is right now. So 453 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: their challenge has been to find the best way to 454 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: use both of them, and they're working on that. They're 455 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: they're starting to get in that direction. I think. I 456 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: think part of what's going on with Pollard the more 457 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: touches is partly because of the games that Elliott missed. 458 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: The funny thing is the game that he that he 459 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: hyper extended his knee. UM was either Detroit or Chicago. 460 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: He came back in the second half after having that 461 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: injury and and scored twice and had one of his 462 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: most explosive runs of the day. He's still very powerful 463 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: and he's good in in UH close spaces. He's a 464 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: different style runners, So I think they're they're using them both, 465 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: you know. I mean se Kwan, for instances, is an 466 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: unusual guy and it's probably who uh Elliott wanted to 467 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: be thought he was when he came in. And very 468 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: few of them get the year seven and eight and 469 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: are still carrying it thirty times a game. A lot 470 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: of us were brought up thinking that's what a lead 471 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: back does and we might just need to That might 472 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: have gone the way of uh past defenses and and 473 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: the shift in baseball, and I mean some things just changed. Brad. 474 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: Let me go back to what you mentioned about Smith 475 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: was kind of green at left tackle when they played 476 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: the Giants back in Week three. But overall, I'm looking 477 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: at a stat line that says only fourteen sacks allowed 478 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 1: through the first ten games of the season. So I 479 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: ask you, is that because the game plans have gotten 480 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: the ball out quickly? Is that because the offensive line 481 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: has for much better and pass protection than maybe people 482 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: thought they would, or is it also part of the 483 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: fact that the Cowboys do mean a lot on the 484 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: run game. Yeah, I think all three. But you can't 485 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: lean on the run game either. If if you can't block, 486 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I thought the best part of their performance 487 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: on Sunday in Minnesota was the offensive line. They scored 488 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: the first seven times they had the ball, and no 489 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 1: Dallas team had ever done that. And um, and the 490 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 1: quarterback was twenty two out of lot. Not a lot 491 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: of deep stuff fair enough, not a lot of you know, 492 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: seven step drops, but there aren't many of those anymore. Um, 493 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: and they're you know, we're plenty good holes to run through, 494 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: so you know, I think the offensive line has also evolved. 495 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy talks a lot about september football. I've never 496 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: really heard the term in a coaching context before he 497 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: got here, and I'm beginning to understand what he means, 498 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: because we've all seen how the game has changed, and 499 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: most to this think not for the better. Since when 500 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: the c b A was redone and and UH strength 501 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: and conditioning coaches couldn't get their hands on players in 502 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: the off season, number of padded practices is reduced. I 503 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: understand why the Union wanted to do all those things, 504 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: and it has not necessarily made the football better, and 505 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: certainly not at the beginning of the year, So I 506 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: think that a lot of times early this is I mean, 507 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: one of the things the Giants have done best, I 508 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: think is find a way to win some of those 509 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: games early while you're trying to get everyone flowing together 510 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: in ways that you once would have done in training 511 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 1: camp in preseason. I mean, I think we're all old 512 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: enough to remember when players played in preseason, and now 513 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: preseason is for the rookies and the guys trying to 514 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: make the team for the most part, So that first 515 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: part of the season is about trying to survive and 516 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: maybe flourish a little bit and find an identity. The 517 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 1: Giants really did it extremely well and it's got them 518 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: playing meaningful games here at this part of the year. 519 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: Cowboys lost their quarterback in the first game, and you know, 520 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: they were confident in Cooper Rush, but they couldn't have 521 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: possibly known that the defense would play as well as 522 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: it did and that Rush would play as well as 523 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: he did, and that they would come out of the 524 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 1: first four games that he played winning them all. So 525 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: what's that have to do with the offensive line? I 526 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: think you're just all growing. You're you're you know, you 527 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,479 Speaker 1: were starting a rookie at left tackle you were starting 528 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: a left guard who, although he's in his fourth year, 529 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: has because of injuries, never been able to play consistently. 530 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: You're starting a third year center, and and your right 531 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: tackle is in his third year and he's an undrafted 532 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: free agent. He's the guy you like. But I mean, 533 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: these guys have all got to grow up and grow together, 534 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: and so I think that's happened with their offensive line, 535 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: and I think that those statistics that you're quoting are 536 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: a little bit of a reflection of that. We're talking 537 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 1: about Brad Sham, played by play announcer for the Cowboys 538 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: Radio Network. Brad, you brought up the defense, and I 539 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: want to flip the script there, because clearly Michael Parsons 540 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: has been a disruptive force ever since he arrived in 541 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: the league, and we can maybe get more into him, 542 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 1: But I actually want to talk about two guys that 543 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: I think have been nice complementary pieces because they have 544 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,959 Speaker 1: four players with at least five sacks. You look at 545 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: Dorn's Armstrong has seven, Dante Feller has five, So those 546 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: two have combined for twelve sacks, and they probably don't 547 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: get nearly as much attention as Michael Parsons into Marcus Lawrence. 548 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: How key have those two in particular been for dan 549 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: Quinn's unit. Well, Armstrong I think really has. And you know, 550 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: there was a big controversy down here when they for 551 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: whatever reason, they wanted Randy Gregory back and they thought 552 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: they had a deal and then they didn't, and so 553 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: they lost him, and some of the money that they 554 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: were going to give to Gregory they used on Armstrong. 555 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: And um, I mean, because he's a really good special 556 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: teams player, and he's long and and he would fit 557 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: into anybody's team. He's not necessarily a star, but he's 558 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,479 Speaker 1: a really solid player would fit into anybody's team. And 559 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: so that's been an important piece for them because they 560 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: paid him kind of like a starter and he has 561 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: played up to that. He'd been several weeks without a sack, 562 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: and sacks are great. We all love to see him, 563 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: but that's just a statistic. You can lead the league 564 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: in sacks and only played seventeen games. What you have 565 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: to have is consistent pressure and disruption, and you have 566 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: to be able to set the edge on defense in 567 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: the run game, and that's something that they had not 568 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: been doing very well. Dollar has been a pass rusher 569 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: all his life, and that's why he was the third 570 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: pick in the draft. But there's also a reason that 571 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: he's on his fourth team and some of its injuries. UM, 572 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: and he's had a couple of he's had a couple 573 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: of penalties that were ill timed and not really what 574 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: you want. And UM, I think he's a role player, 575 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: and he for the most part, has played his role well. 576 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: When they put him in positions to go outside that role, 577 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm not sure everybody benefits the way 578 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: they like. But in his role, obviously he's been good 579 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: because he can still rush the passer. That's he's He's 580 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: always been able to do that and and he can 581 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: still do that, and so those have been important parts 582 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: that you know, they're still trying to figure out what 583 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: to do with Parsons completely. I mean sometimes, let's they 584 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: didn't draft him to be a pass rusher. If you 585 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: saw him at Penn State. I did get a chance 586 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: him in college, did a bowl game that he played in. UM, 587 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: he's one of the most amazing sideline to sideline guys 588 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: you've ever seen. But what the reason that people have 589 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: buzzed about him since last year is DeMarcus Lawrence got 590 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: hurt and they in an emergency. So let's let's see 591 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: about you rushing the passer more. And we've seen what's happened. 592 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: Um And he's still immature. He's still a young guy, 593 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: still learning, but he's clearly an unusual talent. So people 594 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: have to know where he is. And that kind of 595 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: gives that gives those Armstrongs and Fowlers an opportunity to 596 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: make some more plays as long as they are playing 597 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,239 Speaker 1: within the structure of the defense. I think they might 598 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: have all not those guys in particular, but I think 599 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: that the whole group might have gotten away from that 600 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: a little bit being as disciplined as they needed to 601 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: do when when they were giving up two hundred yards 602 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: a game, rushing to a three weeks in a row. 603 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: And if that's something that they're gonna have to keep 604 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: an eye on for as long as they play right. 605 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned DeMarcus Lawrence a few moments ago, 606 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: because in that game in Week three, that Dallas one 607 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: when when Diggs picked off a pass with about a 608 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: minute to go, David Sills had slipped and that sealed 609 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: the touchdown victory for the Cowboys. DeMarcus Lawrence was by 610 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: far the most dominant player on the field that night 611 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: when he really gave Evan Nel the Giants rookie right 612 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: Chackle an awful lot of trouble hit him for two 613 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: of his three sacks, and I just wonder about how 614 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: important he is going to be in this game. Maybe 615 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: not necessarily Michael Parsons, but Lawrence, who ruined the Giants 616 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: last time they played. Yeah, I think Lawrence is one 617 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: of the most important players on the field whenever they 618 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: suit up. He's He's one of the best run players 619 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: I've ever seen. And sadly, the money and the attention 620 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: except from coaches, but the money and the attention all 621 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: goes the guys who produced numbers, who are big pass rushers, 622 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: and that's those are the highlights that are shown. That's 623 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: what we talked about DeMarcus Lawrence. First of all, he 624 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: is the conscience of the room, he's the leader of 625 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: the defense, and he's seriously one of the best run 626 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: players I have ever seen, and takes a great deal 627 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: of pride in and he's got the explosion to be 628 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: a really good pass rusher, and he's battled some injuries. 629 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: He's battling some now but they're all battling some now. 630 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: But he I think he's I think he's a really 631 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: super critical important player for them, and he means a 632 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: lot more to them than just the statistics that he produces. 633 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: And he's that's money well spent by them to have 634 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: him here. Brad, you're referring to the run defense, and 635 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: the Giants had a hundred sixty seven rushing yards in 636 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: that Week three game, and you mentioned the struggles that 637 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: have popped up over the last few contests. What, in 638 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,719 Speaker 1: your estimation is that a product of Is that the 639 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,719 Speaker 1: fact that they've been maybe a little bit banged up 640 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: at linebacker. Is it the fact that the guys, when 641 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: they don't get after the quarterback are not able to 642 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: finish off the edge. What would your pinpoint as to 643 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: why that has been a bit of an achilles heel 644 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: for this defense? Well, I think the uh now, of 645 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: course it was only Week three, um, but I really 646 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: think that they're their problems against the run. I don't 647 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's right to say they started 648 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: in that game, but they were certainly manifest And you 649 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: can check my math because I don't have the stats 650 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: in front of me. But if they gave up. If 651 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: the Giants had a hundred and sixty something yards rushing 652 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: in that game, I'll bet you Daniel Jones had almost 653 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: half of that and and for a while, so I 654 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: mean they didn't handle him well at all. And then um, 655 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: when they gave up two hundred plus to the Bears. Uh, 656 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: that was mostly but not exclusively, but mostly justin fields. 657 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,239 Speaker 1: Now a lot of people are having trouble figuring out 658 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: how to defend Justin's fields. So and then obviously Jalen 659 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: Hurts is his own set of problems. Now, that doesn't 660 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: mean that they haven't been susceptible in the running game too. Uh, 661 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: conventional running backs, and certainly that was the case in 662 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: Green Bay. Aaron Rodgers can still run around, but that's 663 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: not how he's gonna cut your heart out. And it 664 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: was running backs who did that. But um, and then 665 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: here's what happens with statistics. So but then people say, well, 666 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 1: look they really bottled up Dalvin Cook, and they did, 667 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: but they also kept scoring, they got ahead. The game changes. 668 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: You can't necessarily play the same way you might have 669 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: wanted to play from the beginning. And I don't think 670 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: the Giants have any questions. I don't think like I 671 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: know what the Giants are thinking, but it would surprise 672 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 1: me if the Giants approach didn't center around uh, say, 673 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: Juan and Jones being able to run the ball. That 674 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: that's the that's the thing. It seems to me that 675 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: the Giants do best offensively, and especially with some of 676 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: the compromises they've had in the injury department, in the 677 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: receiving corps, including the tight end. So I would attribute 678 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: a lot of it to the fact that they just 679 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: got smoked by running quarterbacks, beginning with Daniel Jones, and 680 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: then I think they got a little sloppy, and I 681 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: think they did not play uh technique the way they 682 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: wanted to. And I'm not sure I can't prove this, 683 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: but I'm not sure that some of those guys didn't 684 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: get stars in their eyes over all. Those pest statistics, 685 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: those sex statistics that you were quoting before. They're young 686 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: men and competitive and they want to do well, and 687 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: everybody's telling them doing well all means sacking the quarterback, 688 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: and that's not the only thing that that is doing 689 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: well when you're playing defense. And I think I think 690 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: McCarthy said last Monday after they'd lost the Green Bay. Uh. 691 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:20,919 Speaker 1: He said, pass rush is a privilege, and that means 692 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta play the run. You can't, you 693 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: can't be decimated in the running game. So I think 694 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: all of those you know, they're human beings and and 695 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: they can play better than they did. In a few 696 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: days they didn't play so well. So I think all 697 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: of those things were the biggest factors and why they're 698 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: running numbers were not good. You know, it's interesting we 699 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: are starting to get close to the time of the 700 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:49,439 Speaker 1: year when the statistics, the overall statistics that we will 701 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: all quote mean less because they include parts of the 702 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 1: season that are really not relevant anymore. And I wish 703 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 1: that the league did a better, more accessible job of 704 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: breaking down team statistics by quarter. I'd like to know 705 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 1: what the last four games, what they that you can 706 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: do and you can figure it out, but that I 707 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: think is more relevant. So when we get out of 708 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 1: this guy, I think McCarthy said, he's he is one 709 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: of those coaches who likes to break the season down 710 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: into quarters. I've known coaches who like to do that, 711 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,439 Speaker 1: and I've known coaches who did not view it that way. 712 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: He's one who breaks it down into quarters. So I 713 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: think he said, since we're on an odd number now 714 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: that the five games they were embarking on after the 715 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: eighth one, uh, that was going to be the third 716 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 1: quarter of the year. So that's that's where we are. 717 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 1: And then when we get to the fourth quarter there 718 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: it will be more important to me to see what 719 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: they've done in the last four or five games than 720 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 1: what their seasonal numbers are. They'll have more meaning Well, Brad, 721 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: my final question actually does revolve around the staff, but 722 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: I think it's one that holds up no matter what 723 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: time of the year you're talking about, and that is 724 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: the turnover ratio. Because Dallas has only given up the 725 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: ball nine times, and yet they are plus seven, which 726 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: is tied for third in the NFL in in takeaway ratio. 727 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: They have been really good at protecting it. And this 728 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 1: even with the fact that Diggs only has three interceptions 729 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: on the season. To have that good of a ratio 730 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 1: and yet not have a ton of picks tells you 731 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: how incredibly important of value that they have placed on 732 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: ball security. Yeah, there's no doubt that is one of 733 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: the that's one of the things they lead with and 734 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:52,839 Speaker 1: and that's a great example of a statistic um I read. 735 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 1: You know they lead the league. I'm pretty sure they 736 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: led the league last year in turnover differential. It was 737 00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 1: the best. I don't know it was the best they've 738 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 1: ever had, but it was close. It was some phenomenal number. 739 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: And Diggs had, you know, eleven interceptions. You don't get 740 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 1: eleven interceptions anymore most year. What what's the leader got now? 741 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 1: Five most years? Yeah, that's what you get, you know, 742 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: seven or eight for the last five years, that would 743 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 1: lead the league. And but Diggs has played better. He 744 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,879 Speaker 1: hadn't intercepted as many, but he's played a lot better cornerback. 745 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: The interesting thing that I saw early in the year 746 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 1: was I'm don't number the exact number of years, but 747 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 1: I think it was ten or fifteen the last that 748 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 1: number of years going back, the team that led the 749 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: league in turnover differential, the next year they're differential dropped off. 750 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: That's I can't tell you the reason for that, except 751 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: that maybe a lot of these ECO ways are circumstance. 752 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: But no team has repeated as the leader in turnover 753 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: differential for at least ten years, and I think it's 754 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 1: more so. It starts with exactly what you said, you 755 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: can't give it up. Balls security is really important and 756 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: that's one of the things that Rush did so well 757 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 1: when he was playing, and then Prescott came in. He 758 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: through two in one game, and so that's something that 759 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 1: he has to be very conscious of. But that is 760 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 1: number one, because the worst, the worst that if you 761 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,359 Speaker 1: never turn the ball over. The worst that can happen 762 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,399 Speaker 1: is you're that lite will be even and then if 763 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 1: you do figure out a way to take some away 764 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,879 Speaker 1: and I think their third or fourth are certainly top 765 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 1: five and in differential right now, and that's that's good 766 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 1: enough to compete. Would you like to lead the league 767 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 1: and every statistic every year? Sure, But if you're in 768 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 1: the top five or six in differential and you're not 769 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 1: giving the ball away, you've given yourself a chance to win. 770 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 1: And I and I think you're a percent right there. 771 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 1: They emphasize it greatly. When McCarthy was in Green Bay, 772 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: they were really good at that, and he really prioritizes 773 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: ball security and I think his first year here they 774 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 1: were terrible at it, and that that really bothered him, 775 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: and so he had to do a lot of things differently. 776 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: And that's one of the things that they've done differently 777 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 1: and better. So there, yeah, that's something that there they 778 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 1: work on. To your point, pride, the Colts were tied 779 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: with the Cowboys last season at plus fourteen their minus 780 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 1: eight this year. So yes, teams have fallen off im mentally, 781 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 1: very hard to duplicate that success. So that puts the 782 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 1: Cowboys in a very unique territory. Before we let you 783 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 1: go right, I want to turn to special teams because 784 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 1: you can argue kickers could be weapons. The Giants have 785 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 1: that argument with respect to Graham Gano Bright Maher is 786 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,760 Speaker 1: seven of fine in field goals of fifty plus yards. 787 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: He actually had to redo one against Minnesota, and the 788 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 1: second one you could argue was better than the first one. 789 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 1: So it just goes to show you how strong his 790 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 1: leg has been and how reliable he's been. And I'm 791 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: just curious how key has that been, especially in circumstances 792 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 1: where Dallas can finish tries with touchdowns. Yeah, you know, 793 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,799 Speaker 1: I'm I'm really glad you brought that up because one 794 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 1: of my favorite things. After I've been doing this for 795 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,280 Speaker 1: a while and as you know, you get around teams 796 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,399 Speaker 1: and there are always on teams that do well. There 797 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,839 Speaker 1: are always some stories that you really hope a lot 798 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 1: of people get to know because they're just they're great stories. So, 799 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: you know, they had my Her before they had him. 800 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 1: They had Dan Bailey for all those years, and he 801 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 1: was really, really, really good, and some stuff happened and 802 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: he had an injury and then he wasn't so good anymore, 803 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,439 Speaker 1: so they let him go. Then they couldn't find one, 804 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,319 Speaker 1: so they had my Her I'm gonna say three or 805 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,879 Speaker 1: four years ago. And he had the strength in the leg. 806 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 1: I mean, he made a sixty three yarder when he 807 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 1: was here before he's he's always had a strong leg. 808 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 1: And that that last year they had him, I think 809 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 1: it was eighteen, could have been nineteen. Uh, he was 810 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: a little erratic. You know. It's funny if you look 811 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 1: at kickers, um, I think the only place kick noticed 812 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 1: that's that's not right anymore. But the first place kicker 813 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame was jan center Rude and uh, 814 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 1: and I'm will enough to remember him. And if you 815 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: go back and look at his statistics, I think he 816 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 1: was like fifty something percent on field goals for his career. 817 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 1: Maybe in the sixties. Well, if you're not in the nineties, 818 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 1: now that we can't win with you. So it's really changed. 819 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 1: And so the thing about this team. So they go 820 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 1: to training camp and they'd had Greg's air line and 821 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 1: he was erratic. Last year they let him go. He 822 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: signed with the Jets. Now they don't know who the 823 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: kicker is. And they had a young fellow, Larum Hirulahu, 824 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,400 Speaker 1: who has been with several teams, been with them a 825 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 1: couple of times, Canadian League kicker, really nice young man, 826 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 1: just didn't have a great strength in his leg and 827 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 1: he was a little erratic. And then they had a 828 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 1: kid named Jonathan Garabay who had been a really good 829 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 1: kicker a rookie, been really good at Texas Tech, and 830 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 1: he sprayed footballs like they were coming out of a 831 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 1: fire hose in training camp, and so they had no 832 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 1: idea what they were gonna do for a kicker. And 833 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 1: at some point during camp they had one of those 834 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 1: bring four guys in and Maher was one of them. 835 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 1: And the city knew him, the team knew him, the 836 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,800 Speaker 1: staff didn't know him. They'd never had him. John Fossil 837 00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 1: had never been with him. So he had the best 838 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 1: and he signed the only two field goals he's missed 839 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 1: have both been from fifty nine yards and I think 840 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 1: he's had one extra point blocked and that's it. And 841 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 1: he's just been so steady. It's a story. That is 842 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 1: the kind of thing that when sports is really good, 843 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 1: that's the kind of thing that we talked about. It's 844 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: guys who are good, guys who who handle adversity, experience it, 845 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 1: handle it. They're not all over the board emotionally, and 846 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 1: they're great teammates. He's just the same guy all the time. 847 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 1: And in fact, I've noticed, because you know, we look 848 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 1: at a monitor also what we're doing the game, and 849 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:51,759 Speaker 1: I noticed after they that ridiculous decision to make him 850 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: kick it again, he it was one of the few 851 00:45:55,680 --> 00:46:00,760 Speaker 1: times I've ever seen him stop and take a deep breath. 852 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 1: They did a close up of him and he stopped 853 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:07,919 Speaker 1: and he did a deep inhale, And so I talked 854 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 1: to him after the game. I said, I don't think 855 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 1: i've seen you do that before, where you just did 856 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: you need to recenter yourself after that first when he 857 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,319 Speaker 1: said yeah, it was a little frustrating. I just want 858 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,919 Speaker 1: to make sure I was just writing the right. I mean, 859 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,280 Speaker 1: he changes, you know, and Gano does this for the Giants. 860 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 1: When you have a kicker that you trust, it changes offense, 861 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 1: it changes the way you call the game because you 862 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 1: don't have to get to the thirty yard line to 863 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 1: have a chance. I mean, it may give you ten 864 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 1: yards of field position. And um, then you have take 865 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 1: the weather into account also, which is one of the 866 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 1: reasons they didn't try an overtime field goal in Green 867 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 1: Bay because at the end of the field he was 868 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 1: going to the ball was just dying. It's cold indoors, 869 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 1: that's not a problem. And so I think the Giants 870 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,239 Speaker 1: feel the same way about Gano. There are some of 871 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 1: these guys when they're going good and you believe in him, 872 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,960 Speaker 1: just send him after fifty five yards doesn't matter. Go 873 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 1: and um. I still get a little nervous when any team, 874 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,360 Speaker 1: unless it's at the very end of the game and 875 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 1: the half, tries one of those fifty plus because the 876 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 1: field position you give up if you miss it is punitive. 877 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 1: But when you never miss, you kind of like your odds. 878 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 1: And he I one reason I would like to see 879 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,840 Speaker 1: them continue to do well is that so more people 880 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,839 Speaker 1: will do what you just did and talk about him 881 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,959 Speaker 1: and ask about how did he get here? Because no 882 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 1: one saw him coming, and when they signed him in 883 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 1: training camp, the react. This is another reason I don't 884 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 1: pay any attention to fans that the reaction was, oh God, 885 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:56,839 Speaker 1: him again, We're gonna get him again. Well, you know now, 886 00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:01,359 Speaker 1: now he could be elected mayor, so that's that's how 887 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,799 Speaker 1: that stuff goes. But he's been a really good story, absolutely, 888 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 1: and that's how quickly opinions changes. You can attest to 889 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 1: Brad in the National Football League. He is Brad Sham 890 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 1: play by play announcer for the Cowboys Radio network. Is 891 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 1: the Giants collide with the Cowboys on Thanksgiving for the 892 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 1: first time since Brad can't thank you enough greatly, appreciate 893 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 1: the time and the inside. Happy Thanksgiving and look forward 894 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,320 Speaker 1: to the game on Thursday. YEA, thank you guys, thanks 895 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 1: for having me with hope everybody has a great, safe Thanksgiving. 896 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 1: The Giants official connected TV streaming app, Giants TV brings 897 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,319 Speaker 1: a video content and game highlights on the man and 898 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 1: direct the Big Blue Fans. Giants TV is free and 899 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 1: Apple TV, Roku and Amazon Fire TV and the Giants 900 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 1: Mobile app. We thank Brad Sham, the voice of the Cowboys, 901 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,680 Speaker 1: for joining us. Great work. As always and now we 902 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,920 Speaker 1: move on to Bob Papa with the head coach of 903 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 1: the Giants, Brian Tables. With great pleasure, I welcome in 904 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 1: my co host and the head coach of the New 905 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 1: York Giants, Carl Banks and coach Brian Dable and the coach. 906 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,400 Speaker 1: Short week for you gotta put the game against the 907 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 1: Lions to bed. How much can you really go back 908 00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,840 Speaker 1: and study it? Yeah, we did that. We did that 909 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,360 Speaker 1: right after the game as a coaching staff, and the 910 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: coordinators watched it. I watched it. We got together, you know, 911 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,879 Speaker 1: over face time and phone conversations at night and fix 912 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 1: the things we think we need to fix, and then 913 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,839 Speaker 1: really get right on into Dallas. Coach, when you look 914 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 1: at the Dallas team and what do you have to erase? 915 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 1: We talk about short memories all the time, but it's 916 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 1: not the physical now. It's making sure that the guys 917 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,280 Speaker 1: are mentally prepared and focused because the mental should click 918 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,960 Speaker 1: um when the game starts, because everybody's dealing with it 919 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 1: on a short week. Yeah, you know Thursdays. You always 920 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:42,920 Speaker 1: have to have a good schedule set in place for him, 921 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,719 Speaker 1: make sure that they're mentally right. But more importantly, they 922 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 1: got to make sure they're physically right with their massages, 923 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 1: their rest, their hydration and and that will be important 924 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 1: for us this week. And then they got to meet 925 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,360 Speaker 1: and you know, study groups and and spend a little 926 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 1: extra time on some of the tape. Unfortunately, this is 927 00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,719 Speaker 1: a team we've played in our division. But uh, you 928 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,480 Speaker 1: know that goes into it. Getting ready to play on 929 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 1: a Thursday game. Coach, you mentioned playing on Thursday. It's Thanksgiving. 930 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 1: It's a little bit different than your boiler plate Thursday 931 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,400 Speaker 1: night game. Um, what about the concept and the thought 932 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 1: of playing on Thanksgiving, which is basically a national holiday 933 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,360 Speaker 1: here in the States. Yeah, it's a privilege. You know, 934 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,040 Speaker 1: all eyes are on you. Um you know, I remember 935 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,200 Speaker 1: as a young kid, sit down and eating some eating 936 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 1: some turkey dinner and watching football and hearing John Madden's voice. 937 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, it's a great tradition. We're honored 938 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:30,960 Speaker 1: to be part of it. And uh we'll do our 939 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,640 Speaker 1: best to represent Coach m The Dallas Cowboys obviously they're 940 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 1: coming off a big win against the Minnesota Vikings. Um, 941 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 1: you know, they have that one to punch Pollard and 942 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,359 Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott and it really seems to be working well. 943 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,920 Speaker 1: Together where it's Um, nobody's griping about sort of the 944 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,400 Speaker 1: snaps that they're getting. Yeah, and they're winning, you know, 945 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 1: so usually that's that goes hand in hand. Uh. Both 946 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 1: of them very talented players, really can do anything with 947 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 1: them in the run game in the past game powers, 948 00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,279 Speaker 1: explosive so zeke. Uh, he can get downhill on you know, 949 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 1: they can break tackles, they can take it the distance 950 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 1: to the better backs in the league. And when you 951 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 1: play a team that's as talented as the Dallas Cowboys 952 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,759 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball, discipline is really important, right 953 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,360 Speaker 1: being where you're supposed to be, not to turn what 954 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,600 Speaker 1: could be a decent play into a big play? Is 955 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 1: that safe to say? Yeah? Absolutely, taking care of all 956 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,719 Speaker 1: the little things. But this is one of the more 957 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 1: talented groups that we face, really at every position. They're 958 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,319 Speaker 1: very good on offense, great in the kicking game, and 959 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 1: exceptional on defense. Uh, it would be a very tough 960 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,840 Speaker 1: challenge coach Um. The last time he played the Cowboys, 961 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 1: Cooper Rush was the starting quarterback. Now you get Dak Prescott, 962 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,400 Speaker 1: but you know, you know what he brings to the table. 963 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:43,680 Speaker 1: What makes Dak such a strong player Really everything he's 964 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,399 Speaker 1: good in the pocket, he's accurate. Um, he's got good temper, 965 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,040 Speaker 1: winning out of the huddle or when they go no huddle. Um, 966 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,719 Speaker 1: makes good football decisions, can use his legs if he 967 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,399 Speaker 1: needs to, and he's a winner. Coach. On the other 968 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 1: side of the ball, Karl mentioned about the Cowboys defensively, 969 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 1: and I've to see with Lawrence and Parsons up front 970 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 1: and then all the other guys that they have because 971 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 1: they do it in waves. Um, is it really exotic 972 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,000 Speaker 1: what they do or is they kind of just they 973 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 1: can just beat you man on man. Yeah, I think 974 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:13,600 Speaker 1: it's a little bit of both. I think coach Quinn 975 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,879 Speaker 1: does a really good job with this scheme, particularly into 976 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:20,680 Speaker 1: the passing situations. But uh, you know, very talented individual matchups. 977 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,360 Speaker 1: They're hard to block, and they got good cover players 978 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,160 Speaker 1: to take advantage on the back end too, So it 979 00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:29,879 Speaker 1: all works hand in hand. Extremely talented defense. Go ahead, coach, 980 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,720 Speaker 1: when you talk about the players and as you prepare 981 00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 1: their scheme and you talk about the individual talents, is 982 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,640 Speaker 1: it important to understand from from your perspective offensive line, 983 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,160 Speaker 1: to understand each individual player what they do well before 984 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,280 Speaker 1: you even get into the scheme. Absolutely. Everything starts with matchups, 985 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 1: and you never know exactly where they're gonna put them. 986 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,600 Speaker 1: Particularly eleven, he's he's kind of all over the place. Um, 987 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,359 Speaker 1: dynamic player, and you know Lawrence gave us a lot 988 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 1: of issues the first game, and inside they're just uh, 989 00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,439 Speaker 1: start with the matchups and then we gotta we gotta 990 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,319 Speaker 1: do a good job too with with our technique, our 991 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,880 Speaker 1: fundamentals and making sure we're sound. And I know that 992 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,480 Speaker 1: you know Digs pretty well from way back in the day. Uh, 993 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 1: fun guy to go against, but a dangerous gotta go against. Absolutely. 994 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,480 Speaker 1: I mean you see what he did against Minnesota. They 995 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,160 Speaker 1: matched him up and um, you know, hold a really 996 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,560 Speaker 1: good receiver to three catches I think thirty three yards. Uh, 997 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,200 Speaker 1: you know, he's pretty, he's pretty instinctive player. He's got 998 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,839 Speaker 1: he's got length, he's got speed. Um, you know he's 999 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 1: he's a heck of a corner coach. Just as you 1000 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,080 Speaker 1: get ready to play this game against the Cowboys, um, 1001 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,439 Speaker 1: you've got four division games coming up in a row. 1002 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,759 Speaker 1: So the message to your team is what it's right 1003 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 1: there in front of you. It's all in front of you. 1004 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,479 Speaker 1: Whatever happened last Sunday really doesn't factor in right now. Yeah, 1005 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 1: it's really all about Dallas. Um. You know, we've got 1006 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,360 Speaker 1: a few days here to make sure we're prepared and 1007 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:49,840 Speaker 1: and going there as fresh as we can be to 1008 00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,719 Speaker 1: play a good game on on Thursday and Thanksgiving. All right, coach, 1009 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,759 Speaker 1: we look forward to spending Thanksgiving with you in Arlington, Texas. 1010 00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,080 Speaker 1: That's gihnant, said coach Brian Dable. We thank him for 1011 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,840 Speaker 1: joining us on this episode of the Giants Huttle Podcast. 1012 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,239 Speaker 1: We thank Brad Cha. We thank Mark Lewinski as well 1013 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,279 Speaker 1: for some good insight on the Giants offensive line going 1014 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,440 Speaker 1: up agains a really tough front this week in the 1015 00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,279 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. The John Subtle Podcast was brought to you 1016 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:15,279 Speaker 1: by psc and G Energy Efficiency For game time and anytime, 1017 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:19,000 Speaker 1: visit p SEG dot com slash Giants for discounts, rebates 1018 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,759 Speaker 1: at home energy assessments. Happy Thanksgiving. Everybody, as always, will 1019 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 1: have a rapid reaction after the game, reacting to whatever happens. 1020 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,240 Speaker 1: Johnson Cowboys on Thanksgiving. Enjoy the game, enjoy your holiday, 1021 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving. 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